Pentagon: We are confident that the balloon that appeared in the sky over the US belongs to China

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Pentagon: We are confident that the balloon that appeared in the sky over the US belongs to China

Balloon with shadow from the ISS


A little over two years after China deployed a "balloon" system for detecting missiles and tracking missile launches, the United States announced that one of these balloons had appeared over American territory.



Recall that in November 2020, the Japanese press reported the formation in China of a “group of balloons”, which, together with space satellites, is capable of tracking rocket launches. Such balloons are placed at altitudes of up to 100 km for observation with signal exchange with satellites, which in turn transmit information to the command center. Then it was reported that China tested such balloons in the area of ​​the Spratly Islands, an archipelago whose ownership is disputed by various countries of East Asia.

Now the Pentagon has recorded the appearance of a "balloon of unknown origin" in the sky over the United States. A spokesman for the US Department of Defense said he was "confident that the balloon belongs to China."

From the statement of the official:

The balloon is located at an altitude that exceeds the echelons of commercial traffic. So far, he does not pose a physical and military threat to people on earth.

The official added that the decision was made not to shoot down this aerial object.

In China, the Pentagon's statements have not yet been officially commented on.

Previously, experts noted that when at an altitude of up to 100 km, the view of the balloon cameras is tens, or even hundreds, of thousands of square kilometers. At the same time, the resolution of images and videos is much higher than that which can be achieved at the moment with satellite monitoring of the earth's surface.
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  1. +7
    3 February 2023 06: 53
    Previously, experts noted that when at an altitude of up to 100 km, the view of the balloon cameras is tens, or even hundreds, of thousands of square kilometers.

    They noted! And expert ethics does not allow you to calculate the base of the cone?!
    1. +2
      3 February 2023 07: 19
      Well, not every ekperD can
      calculate the base of the cone
      ..... hi
      1. +10
        3 February 2023 08: 34
        The altitude record for an unmanned balloon is 53,0 km; the balloon was launched by JAXA on May 25, 2002 from Iwate Prefecture, Japan. This is the highest height ever reached by such devices. Something 100 km is doubtful. Double the record...
        1. +3
          3 February 2023 13: 50
          Even if 40 km, not every air defense system is capable of shooting down at such a height. Ours would at least hang 5 of these over 404.
  2. +6
    3 February 2023 06: 57
    We must take into account the experience of the Chinese ... excellent work ... cheap, practical and effective.
    Satellites at this altitude are expensive, and the balloon is just right.
    1. +4
      3 February 2023 07: 00
      Pentagon: We are confident that the balloon that appeared in the sky over the US belongs to China
      and then Roswell.
    2. 0
      3 February 2023 08: 46
      How do they keep them stable? This ball is probably lost. And very successfully
      1. 0
        3 February 2023 10: 53
        Quote: igorbrsv
        How do they keep them stable? This ball is probably lost. And very successfully

        They are launched according to the wind rose, and this is the choice of a place, depending on which direction it is necessary for it to fly. The United States during the Soviet era periodically launched them in the direction of our territory.
    3. +6
      3 February 2023 08: 53
      It is high time to hang over the Donbass, over the controlled territory of course. The Americans have a tethered cable, the length of the cable and therefore the rise of 7 and a half kilometers, the suspended radar sees up to 400 km. It works like an AWACS aircraft, but does not consume fuel, etc. You can use a camera with a good zoom and see enemy movements ...
  3. +6
    3 February 2023 07: 00
    in the United States said that one of these balloons appeared over American territory
    And what kind of "wind" brought him there from China across the Pacific Ocean? If it is really Chinese, and even more so with equipment for monitoring missile launches, then why did the Americans decide not to shoot it down? Somehow everything does not fit into the American logic. Then with one movement of the hand they shoot down a passenger plane, assuming that it is a military plane and poses a threat to an American ship in the Indian Ocean, and then a Chinese reconnaissance balloon over the United States and such a boring reaction.
    1. +1
      3 February 2023 07: 04
      Quote: rotmistr60
      what kind of "wind" brought him there from China across the Pacific Ocean?

      In the upper layers of the Earth's atmosphere, there are also storms and hurricanes ... there are scientific articles on this topic.
      1. +1
        3 February 2023 07: 43
        It was not in vain that I took the word "wind" in quotation marks, assuming under it any delivery methods that the Chinese are capable of. Why not launch a probe from a ship or somehow knowing the Windrose naturally?
    2. +2
      3 February 2023 07: 24
      During WWII, the Japanese launched Fu-Go high-altitude balloons to bomb the United States. There, at certain heights, there are strong and very stable air currents. So flying is not a problem at all. The speed is about 100 km / h, the Japanese planned for a flight of 8000 km for three days
    3. +2
      3 February 2023 07: 31
      100 km is already space! A defeat at this altitude can already be interpreted similarly to a satellite attack ... And what will prevent you from receiving a "reply" from Amer's satellites in low orbit? Well, then what, "answer" for "response"?
      Although Pelosi's grandmother's visit to Taiwan went unanswered...
    4. +2
      3 February 2023 08: 23
      It's a pretty hard target, hard to shoot down
    5. 0
      3 February 2023 08: 50
      . and here is a Chinese reconnaissance balloon

      Probably hoping that he will flop sooner or later. Here they don't crash. Pick up and sort out
    6. +1
      3 February 2023 13: 25
      Quote: rotmistr60
      If it is really Chinese, and even more so with equipment for monitoring missile launches, then why did the Americans decide not to shoot it down? Somehow everything does not fit into the American logic.

      Today the material would be on this topic, let me copy it:
      “This is the thing. These balloons fly very high. In the stratosphere

      They barely reflect the radio signal, so they were almost never shot down by air defense missiles with a radar principle and by no one, they don’t care in line with a cannon, because they have a cellular structure and need a special anti-aerostatic projectile, the feature of which was an ultra-sensitive fuse that could be cocked by touching the thinnest balloon shells.

      And their presence on airplanes is a big question. In the USSR, special aircraft were allocated for the destruction of ADA and special litaks with special weapons were developed.

      Well, the most effective (and, in fact, the only) method remains an attack with missiles with an infrared seeker in an attempt to capture the side of the balloon heated by the Sun.

      All the talk about the fact that the Americans do not want to shoot down, of course, is nonsense. Can not.

      Either the characteristics of the weapons of the litaks do not allow, or the skill of the pilots.

      But once again I will repeat. Balloons are a very difficult target.

      And if ordinary residents of the United States did not see this Chinese probe, the Pentagon would pretend that nothing had happened.

      Now try to sort it out and explain how the first army of the planet cannot shoot down an enemy balloon over the country.
  4. +10
    3 February 2023 07: 02
    Yes, stop stop! Americans claim that space starts from 80 km above the earth? And they assign the titles of astronauts for flying above this height? The American Karman line.. So, what's the problem? -The balloon is flying in space! :) Isn't it?
  5. +1
    3 February 2023 07: 05
    Quote: Volunteer Marek
    The balloon is flying in space! :) Isn't it?

    So it says in the article ... up to 100 km ... smile boring.
    1. +1
      3 February 2023 07: 10
      This is exactly why they don't crash. Because it's a precedent.
  6. +7
    3 February 2023 07: 09
    Don't interfere. This is Cyrus Smith, Gideon Spilett, Pencroft, Herbert, Ayrton and Neb flying to a mysterious island to meet Captain Nemo.
    1. +1
      3 February 2023 07: 22
      If my memory serves me .... there was some kind of watchdog with them .....
      1. +2
        3 February 2023 08: 30
        But Ayrton was not there.

        Sorry, I'm not smart enough to write a normal comment
    2. 0
      3 February 2023 22: 43
      Everything is easier...
      Someone inflated a condom and sent it flying...
      Panic at the Pentagon
      And in Beijing they look down
  7. +1
    3 February 2023 07: 12
    Quote: sergo1914
    Don't interfere. This is Cyrus Smith, Gideon Spilett, Pencroft, Herbert, Ayrton and Neb flying to a mysterious island to meet Captain Nemo.

    The truth is somewhere near. smile
  8. vmo
    +1
    3 February 2023 07: 13
    Are you sure that these are the Chinese, and are not your partners misbehaving?
  9. +1
    3 February 2023 07: 18
    Pentagon: We are sure, that the balloon that appeared in the sky over the United States belongs to China
    And take a look, no way? fool And if the Martians, eat your hat, well, at least the entire editorial office .... feel
    1. 0
      3 February 2023 08: 58
      And how do you look at it until it flops? 100km still
      1. 0
        3 February 2023 13: 23
        Into a telescope. And suddenly there "Made in China" is written. laughing
  10. +3
    3 February 2023 07: 30
    Quote: vmo
    Are you sure that these are the Chinese, and are not your partners misbehaving?

    But what's the difference ... yes, at least the great Eun ... if only they planted a pig on the Americans.
  11. +4
    3 February 2023 07: 32
    balloons are placed at altitudes up to 100 km

    Aerostat (from the Greek. Αερ - "air"; στατός - "fixed") - an aircraft lighter than air, the principle of operation of which is based on the law of Archimedes [2].
    (Wikipedia)

    Is it possible for a balloon to rise to such a height? "I hesitate"
    ps Most likely, the Americans simply do not have weapons capable of shooting down such balloons. Let's remember the history of V. Myasishchev's M-17/55 aircraft.
  12. +3
    3 February 2023 07: 44
    We would have one in the Donbass to track down the Armed Forces of Ukraine.
    1. 0
      3 February 2023 13: 31
      With America, it’s most likely easier to launch in one ocean, and pick it up in another, but what about in the Donbass?
  13. +3
    3 February 2023 07: 51
    The balloon is located at an altitude that exceeds the echelons of commercial traffic. So far, he does not pose a physical and military threat to people on earth.
    The official added that the decision was made not to shoot down this aerial object.

    Is there anything? Or can fighting balloons damage the image of the infallible US air defense system?
    1. 0
      3 February 2023 09: 14
      At this height, only the S-400 will reach. Or s-500. Or a MiG-31 fighter. But maybe the experts can advise. And then I'm not boom-boom
  14. +4
    3 February 2023 08: 03
    Again, high-like - Chinese ...., or maybe ours, what the hell is not joking? Campaign, they really scratch their turnips, they don’t know how to shoot down and whether it’s possible ...., a threat to national security on the face, they make a good face in a bad game ...... but let it fly ...., like it doesn’t bother us. Do you really believe in it? There is a flight a la U-2 by G. Powers on 01.05.960/XNUMX/XNUMX.
  15. +2
    3 February 2023 08: 12
    Notably, the Chinese (if they are) bent mattress covers.
    1. +2
      3 February 2023 08: 34
      "Such balloons are placed at altitudes up to 100 km for observation"
      the Chinese need to be careful, some balloon will fly into space (Winnie the Pooh) The record height for an unmanned balloon is 53.7 km, Japan reached in 2013 (aerospace research agency (
  16. +2
    3 February 2023 08: 43
    They have nothing to knock him down. A missile with a radar seeker will not target him. EPR is close to zero. With the IR GOS, the same is unlikely. Planes rise up to a maximum of 25-30 km. Do not blow up a nuclear charge over America for the sake of this balloon :)
    1. -1
      3 February 2023 09: 20
      The flight altitude is clearly not a record one, the ball is large, it moves slowly, you can probably damage the shell with a laser beam and it will fall, and they can also have a laser on the plane
    2. 0
      3 February 2023 20: 03
      Quote: Yakut
      They have nothing to knock him down.

      They have Boeing NKC-135ALL and Boeing YAL-1. The night was clear there once the balloon was seen - it is not clear why they did not make a flight to the target.
      1. 0
        4 February 2023 02: 28
        Boeing YAL-1:
        The program was closed in 2011 due to a reduction in the military budget - the US Department of Defense recognized the development as not applicable in practice and expensive. By the time the project was closed, the laser power had been increased to a megawatt.[1]
        In February 2012, the aircraft went into storage at the 309th Aerospace Maintenance Group (AMARG), better known as The Boneyard.[9]
        In September 2014, the aircraft was scrapped.
        https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boeing_YAL-1

        Boeing NKC-135ALL
        55-3123 - Originally built as a KC-135A, since 1984 the NKC-135 Airborne Laser Lab is on display at the National Museum of the United States Air Force in Dayton, Ohio. In August 2011, it was removed from display at the museum's fleet to make way for the arrival of the museum's C-5A Galaxy. The aircraft is currently in storage.[14]
        https://translated.turbopages.org/proxy_u/en-ru.ru.94a0639e-63dd97b6-ddd441be-74722d776562/https/en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NC-135

        They don't have shit against "Saprykin's Bones" request
        1. 0
          4 February 2023 17: 49
          They have fresh ground-based installations, shipborne ones ... - yes, these are experimental machines, but even the old lasers of air platforms sneered at a distance of up to 250 km and burned the thin metal of target missile tanks there.
          So technically they could burn it.
  17. 0
    3 February 2023 09: 27
    [/ quote] Now the Pentagon has recorded the appearance of a "balloon of unknown origin" in the sky over the United States. A spokesman for the US Department of Defense stated that he was "confident that the balloon belongs to China" [quote]

    What’s so?
    And where is the trace of Russia?
    You'll figure it out....
    These are all agents of the Kremlin
    (But in fact, it was Petrov and Boshirov’s vacation that ended, and in America the elections, here they are at work, and since the sanctions are something like this ...)
  18. 0
    3 February 2023 10: 16
    Yeah, they made a decision not to shoot down. Taken from FighterBomber:

    Heh.
    Here is the thing. These balloons fly very high. In the stratosphere

    They barely reflect the radio signal, so they almost never shot down with radar-guided air defense missiles and no one, they are fucked next in line from the cannon, because they have a cellular structure and need a special anti-aerostatic projectile, the feature of which was an ultra-sensitive fuse capable of cocking from touching the thinnest shell balloon.
    And their presence on aircraft is a big question. In the USSR, special aircraft were allocated for the destruction of the ADA, and special litaks with special weapons were developed.

    Well, the most effective (and in fact the only) method remains an attack with IR seeker missiles in an attempt to capture the side of the balloon heated by the Sun.

    All the talk that the Americans do not want to shoot him down is, of course, nonsense.
    They can not. Nothing.
    Either the characteristics of the weapons of the litaks do not allow, or the skill of the pilots.

    But once again I will repeat. Balloons, this is a very difficult target. And if ordinary residents of the United States did not see this Chinese probe, the Pentagon would pretend that nothing had happened.

    Now try to sort it out and explain how the first army of the planet cannot shoot down an enemy balloon over the country.
    1. 0
      3 February 2023 22: 05
      The fact that a difficult goal is understandable, it is not clear why it hangs over one place for so long, in theory, as the wind brought it, it carried it away, I'm afraid that these are reptilians)), the balloon cannot hang in one place without a leash
      The whole village saw a similar little thing, only triangular, hung for three hours, and then began to turn pale and quietly dissolved, it was a strange sight and not very pleasant, it caused alarm
  19. +1
    3 February 2023 10: 31
    If there is something similar to Winnie the Pooh under the balloon, then it’s definitely us. The United States has something to get this balloon with. If not, then Bruce Willis is hopelessly old. The Pentagon will now come up with anything. wassat And Putin said yesterday that the answer will definitely not be armored vehicles, maybe "it."
    1. +2
      3 February 2023 18: 11
      As they say, no comment. laughing
  20. +4
    3 February 2023 10: 59
    Pentagon: We are confident that the balloon that appeared in the sky over the United States belongs to China.


    They looked at the inscription in Chinese: "Hello to the children of the United States from the pioneers of China" - the home of the pioneers of Beijing.
  21. 0
    3 February 2023 13: 09
    What other "shadow from the ISS"? Is this some kind of humor or trolling?
  22. 0
    3 February 2023 16: 16
    Knock down dumb: a precedent will arise. Suddenly, Russia responds by knocking down satellites over Ukraine and the Russian Federation.
  23. yho
    -1
    3 February 2023 16: 47
    I don’t understand how it was possible to take a photo with a shadow from the ISS, if this ball is 100 km away, and the ISS is 400 km from the Earth? Those. the distance between them is 300 km. And what size then this balloon?
    Maybe it's a UFO?
    1. 0
      3 February 2023 18: 26
      Because this is not a shadow from the ISS, but a balloon gondola. Similar balloons have already been seen by the Japanese over the disputed Senkaku / Diaoyu Islands and in a number of other places.
  24. +2
    3 February 2023 22: 38

    Photo from the Hubble Space Telescope of the back side of the balloon ...
    American experts decided not to shoot down until they translate the name of the object from Chinese into English ....