Lithuania 1945. And Klaipeda-Memel as a gift

Another memory, another time

On January 16, almost the anniversary of the capture of the German Memel by the Soviet army (and this is January 28, 1945), which soon became the Lithuanian Klaipeda, Lithuanian President Gitanas Nauseda decided to take up memories. However, he remembered something completely different when he led the ceremony of memory of those who died during the uprising in January 1923 in the Prussian Memel.

That uprising happened in the now former Memel, that is, in the future Klaipeda.

“I hope that we use the potential of Klaipeda even better. I know how many plans are related to Klaipeda. So, live for centuries and be happy all of Lithuania together with the Klaipeda region”,

Mr. Nauseda proclaimed.

Note that the words "live forever and be happy"- this is a line from the anthem of the Lithuanian SSR in 1940 ... Well, perhaps the indirect appeal of the head of Lithuania to its Soviet period is not accidental: after all, it was during this period that Lithuania acquired the Klaipeda region forever.

According to some reports, when German Chancellor Willy Brandt visited the USSR in 1970, he was offered to visit Klaipeda. Under a "neutral" pretext, the head of the West German government refused, which is not surprising. But since 1949, the Memel section of the revanchist "Union of Exiles" has existed in the FRG, demanding to deprive Lithuania of Klaipeda.

Previously, these gentlemen demanded the same from the USSR, without exchanging for its Lithuanian component. Let us briefly recall that until 1919, inclusive, the Memel region was part of Germany, but then it ended up under the protectorate of France. But where is France and where is the Baltic coast?

In January 1923, an uprising broke out in the Memel region of the majority of the population (then the majority there were Lithuanians and Jews) for the annexation of the region to Lithuania. By the end of January 1923, this region was almost completely controlled by the rebels. And on February 16, 1923, the Memel region, with the consent of the Entente and the League of Nations, officially became part of Lithuania.

However, only sixteen years later - at the end of March 1939, Lithuania unconditionally "returned" Memel and the entire small, but strategically very important region of Nazi Germany. This happened in connection with an ultimatum signed personally by Hitler and unconditionally implemented by the Lithuanian authorities the very next day.

Finally, at the turn of January-February 1945, the region was liberated by Soviet troops after fierce battles.

To whom Memel, and to whom Klaipeda

But the current events and trends around the Kaliningrad exclave show that, perhaps, the transfer of the Memel Territory in 1947 to Lithuania was a strategic mistake of the USSR. This area was simply disconnected from the former East Prussia, with which economic ties have not gone away, in contrast to political, cultural and social ones.

The Prussian Memel finally became the Lithuanian Klaipeda. Although in 1946-1947. discussed the project of creating a separate Klaipeda region within the RSFSR. It was initiated by Soviet leaders - A. Kuznetsov, M. Rodionov, P. Popkov, Y. Kapustin, T. Zakrzhevskaya, who were soon destroyed as part of the notorious "Leningrad case" (1949-1950).

These authoritative and high-ranking Soviet functionaries (Alexei Kuznetsov, for example, led the Leningrad regional party committee, and then was secretary of the Central Committee) believed, not without reason, that the preservation of this region as part of the former Prussian Kaliningrad region was politically inexpedient.

They argued their proposal, among other things, by the fact that the borders of the Soviet part of the former East Prussia, the same as the German ones (that is, with the former ones), would inspire revanchists in the FRG. Therefore, the Klaipeda region should be separated from the Kaliningrad region and declared a separate region of the RSFSR.

At the same time, the transfer of the region to the Lithuanian SSR, according to the "Leningraders", could only strengthen the anti-Soviet underground there. And besides, to limit the political and geographical presence of the RSFSR in the Baltic, where only the Leningrad region will be "represented".

In turn, the Kaliningrad regional party committee in those years proposed the inclusion of the entire northern part of East Prussia in this region. But he did not mind if its Memel region would be a separate Russian region, rightly considering it inappropriate to “strengthen” Lithuania with this region.

Arguments not facts?

However, such arguments in the Politburo of the Central Committee, and hence in other leading structures, were not heeded then ... Of course, in those years, no one in the Soviet leadership in a nightmare could have imagined that in half a century this Lithuanian region would become part of independent Lithuania, yes also joined NATO in 2003.

In the Soviet period, Memel under the Lithuanian name, together with the surrounding area, provided up to a third of the entire GDP of the Lithuanian SSR. Approximately the same was the share of the region in the total value of all industrial products of the republic. In 1947-1988, in the Klaipeda region, the level of industrial production increased by more than 20 times, the housing stock also increased by more than 20 times.

The port of Klaipeda and related industries developed especially actively. So, only the capacity for transshipment of goods in the port has increased by almost 20 times over forty years, that is, each five-year period has at least doubled. Lithuania still uses all this. By the way, it also had at its disposal the largest ferry crossing in the Baltic from the USSR to the GDR - from Klaipeda to the German Mukran, now in fact the entrance gates of both Nord Streams (Germany). Ferries have been running there since 1986.

However, it cannot be discounted that all this was achieved almost exclusively through centralized Union funding. In post-Soviet Lithuania, of course, they prefer not to mention this. But in a matter of hours, on July 4, 2022, the Memorial to Soviet Soldiers-Liberators of Klaipeda, installed in 1975, was dismantled.

But it is impossible not to recall that the books published in the Lithuanian SSR about the Klaipeda region did not mention in a word the decisive role of the Soviet state budget, specialists and equipment from the RSFSR in the rapid post-war recovery of the local economy. As well as the whole of Lithuania, actually.

According to the Ministry of Economic Development of the Russian Federation, Soviet investments in Lithuania amounted (at the average exchange rate of 2007) to more than $72 billion, including at least $25 billion to the Klaipeda region. Russia, although the “astronomical” amounts of the notorious “occupation” claims against the Russian Federation are voiced with enviable constancy ...

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[parusnik]

and even joined NATO in 2003.

And in 2004 in the EU, not in the CIS, but in the EU ..

[ee2100]

Back in 1993, I came across an article by an American journalist or analyst, I don’t remember now, which explained the Russophobia of the Balts and Poles.
Ethnic Balts and Poles in the early 90s generally had a positive attitude towards Russians, but politicians and then the media regularly issued streams of dirt on the mountain and blamed the Russians for all their troubles.
Everyone believed that this choir was led by the American regional committee, but the above-mentioned journalist painted everything correctly and life confirmed his version.
All this Russophobia came from Berlin, although Berlin itself behaved and behaves very correctly towards Russia.
1. Total Russophobia in the Baltic States and Poland.
2. Politically equalize the Hitler regime and the Stalin regime, declaring them illegal.
3. Initiation of revision of the results of WW2.
And this means the return of the lands lost by Germany.
Comrades, you are on the right path!

[Edward Vashchenko]

Back in 1993, I came across an article by an American journalist or analyst, I don’t remember now, which explained the Russophobia of the Balts and Poles.

Alexander, I greet you,
but I remember in the distant 90s, Russophobia directly blossomed in our penates: our fairy tales are not the same, and our whole history is not the same: especially the nearest one.
That's as soon as capitalism went, and popped nationalism.
And the people who drowned for Russophobia and now everyone is in power, prominent "democrats" are now "severe patriots": where there is money, there they are.
And for the rest, terrible stories about universal Russophobia.

[ee2100]

Good afternoon!
My comment about 92-93 About the very beginning, and then, yes, from each iron. At school they said that the Russian people are lazy and the fairy tales are appropriate (Emelya on the stove, and other Ivan fools)
Only they did not understand that only a great people could laugh at their shortcomings
It's a thing of the past.
Now referendums are not in the democratic trend. Vaughn and the Finns with the Swedes, without asking, change their non-bloc status.
So with Klaipeda and with Gdansk and others in Brussels, they decide to return them to Germany and that's it!
Almost all preparatory work has been done.

[tihonmarine]

Quote: ee2100

So with Klaipeda and with Gdansk and others in Brussels, they decide to return them to Germany and that's it!
Almost all preparatory work has been done.

A lot of work has been done all towards Germany. Memel, Prussia and Western Pomerania will be returned to the Germans in exchange for Polish Kresy for the Poles, but the issue with the Lithuanians has not yet been resolved.

[Serg koma]

Quote: tihonmarine

A lot of work has been done all towards Germany

I do not agree. You are silent about Crimea, Donbass and +++. Further :
First of all, Lviv Poland (let him take it). In the second Vilna of Belarus. So the Germans are third in line for "historical territories", and even those, let them take them from the Poles in exchange for Lviv

[Trilobite Master]

Greetings, Sasha.

Quote: ee2100

All this Russophobia came from Berlin,

It seems that I also read something similar, only later, already in the late 90s.
Indeed, since the beginning of the Cold War, West Berlin has been the center of anti-Soviet propaganda, and, accordingly, the center of Russophobia, but this was not surprising given its then position, both geographical and political. By and large, it was run by the Americans, not the Germans.
Actually, Germany (FRG), since the end of the Second World War, has cherished only one dream - to reunite with the GDR, the Germans' ambitions have not been wiped further. Even in the 90s, they did not particularly stutter about revising the borders, except perhaps the most radical circles, who were considered political marginals.
So, despite the fact that formally those who call Berlin, and not Washington, the center of Russophobia, are right, in fact the Russophobic (anti-Soviet) ideas broadcast from Berlin were dictated there from Washington.
Therefore, "Washington regional committee" - I like this expression! - still drives. Berlin is just a platform, a mouthpiece, nothing more. So it was in the second half of the XNUMXth century, and so it is in the first quarter of the XNUMXst.

[ee2100]

Hi, Misha!
I think the Washington Regional Committee is an overrated concept.
Have you noticed that such a thing as "deep government" has disappeared from everyday life, and I think it's no coincidence. An interesting trend in many countries is at the "helm" of people without education or have zero work experience. The so-called professional politicians, but in fact puppets.

[Trilobite Master]

Quote: ee2100

Have you noticed that such a thing as "deep government" has disappeared from everyday life?

On the contrary, I hear this term more and more often. For the first time, I came across it a relatively long time ago in the context of a world conspiracy theory. And when this epic with Trump, his elections and re-elections began, this "deep state" rushed from almost every iron, even some kind of book, in my opinion, came out.

Quote: ee2100

in many countries at the "helm" people without education or have zero work experience. The so-called professional politicians, but in fact puppets.

But this trend is very clear. And the conclusions are very simple. The number of subjects of public international law de facto has declined catastrophically, de jure remaining the same. A significant number of sovereign states on paper have completely or partially fallen under external control, therefore, these states are headed by individuals who do not pretend to anything other than to trade their, let's say, persons at various public events. And even though the most important question that is being decided at these events is who will fight which whore tonight, and all their performances "at the end" are written in advance even before the start of the event itself, this does not interest anyone.

[ee2100]

Yes, that's how it is. Biden is also in this row, but it's generally gorgeous - a senile at the helm of the United States!
The Deep State defeated Trump and was immediately forgotten about.
Maybe this is conspiracy theories, but many indirect ones indicate that this is so. But we must not talk about one state, but about states, and the form of government like the EU is perfect for this scheme.
No need to be scattered, but gave a command and 26 countries rushed to execute it.

[Trilobite Master]

The "Deep State", in my understanding, is a narrow circle of people whose members do not have official political power, but at the same time they have huge material resources, through which they keep the political elite in a number of countries under control. Such a situation is possible only under capitalism and, in my opinion, is the inevitable result of the development of this socio-political formation.
It is difficult to say whether Russia has reached this stage now. Judging by the way Putin spoke to the Union of Industrialists and Entrepreneurs on the day the NWO began eleven months ago, we already have all the prerequisites for this.

Quote: ee2100

Comrades, you are on the right path!

[ee2100]

Of course, this group is probably in all countries and the Russian Federation, and the USSR is no exception. The Politburo in the USSR - 100% decided everything, or do you Misha think that athletes or artists in the State Duma decide something?
Democracy is a beautiful screen, only in different countries the colors of the screen are different.

[Trilobite Master]

In the USSR, all issues were decided by the party nomenklatura. political power. And she was not anonymous - the whole country knew the names of these people. They held certain positions, had powers and were personally responsible for their affairs to their colleagues. They could be deprived of their posts and privileges, sent to retirement, and the whole country would know about it, in any case, that part of it that is at least somehow interested in politics.
The Deep State is something else. We do not know their names, they do not have official posts and positions that could be deprived of them, they are not responsible to anyone for the political decisions they make. It is virtually impossible to remove such a character from the run - for this you need to either deprive him of his property - a huge property, for the protection of which gigantic forces are mobilized, or simply eliminate it physically, which is also very difficult and just as useless.
This, in my understanding, is a narrow circle of people, very rich people who control the lion's share of the assets of the state, and in the case of the United States, the world. The personal composition of these people is constantly changing, but it never changes radically, that is, it has stability and constancy. They never all get together, many of them have never met each other, so they cannot be covered with one "Dagger" or "Mace". It is hardly possible to compile even a complete list of them.

[ee2100]

So Misha became a full-fledged conspiracy theorist
"Do you see the gopher? And he is!"
The fact that almost all off-politics are puppets is not even going to a fortune teller.
No one is looking for a deep government, although if specially trained people want, they will dig up 70-80 percent.
But really, what's the point? A small circle of people decides, and if they want, then their decision will be wrapped in a beautiful wrapper, or vice versa, they will dump it as slops are taught. The result is one - hawai people.

[3x3zsave]

My respect, comrades!
I don’t know what about a tub of slops, but today you definitely poured a barrel of jam on the soul of Lyudmila Yakovlevna, wounded by conspiracy theories!)))

[Trilobite Master]

Quote: ee2100

So Misha became a full-fledged conspiracy theorist

Stay here...
Still, the conspiracy theory is somewhat different.
If I were talking about an organized secret association that manipulates the politicians of all or most of the countries, then yes, this is probably conspiracy theories.
But here is a slightly different aspect. The "Deep State" is not an organized force pursuing some specific, clearly formulated goals. This phenomenon has neither any governing bodies or internal arbitration, nor a common program of action, nor rules, nor concepts.
This, in my understanding, is rather a certain environment, different from our usual habitat in many ways.

[3x3zsave]

This, in my understanding, is rather a certain environment, different from our usual habitat in many ways.
"Mars attacks!" (FROM)

[Trilobite Master]

Why Mars? Nibiru. Attacks and makes us eat crickets and worms.
But seriously, there are many such "environments" on our planet. They differ from the universal, habitual more or less, and they also influence the general human life - more or less. There is a criminal environment, there is an environment of sports of high achievements, poetic, scientific, etc., there are no number of them.
The "Deep State" is one such environment with its own specifics. Nothing fantastic.
So let's leave Mars alone. Something I have no desire to laugh today.

[3x3zsave]

Why Mars?
Yes, one of my favorite films.

[stankow]

Vice versa. I saw on TV a meeting with big business in Russia. Putin made some excuses, and yet brought together his decision, and did not ask for permission to CBO.

[tihonmarine]

Quote: Trilobite Master

Berlin is just a platform, a mouthpiece, nothing more. So it was in the second half of the XNUMXth century, and so it is in the first quarter of the XNUMXst.

After the division of Germany and Berlin, in the part where the Anglo-Saxons ruled, there was no denazification, about which the media are ringing. Immediately after the start of the Cold War in 1946, anti-Soviet propaganda began in Germany, supported by the Anglo-Saxons.

[Glagol1]

Poles and Balts hated Russians back in Soviet times. So about 1993, well, I don’t know who had a positive attitude there. Percent 10. The rest spat in the back. The Germans have zero influence on Poland and the Baltic, no one sees them there. This is 100% Anglo-Saxon fiefdom.

[ABC-schutze]

But this "president" will be well remembered as the so-called. "lithuania" will lose this port ...

It is only a matter of time and priorities in solving the problems facing Russia ...

[north 2]

It should be noted that after the Second World War, it was proposed to include the present Kaliningrad region into the Lithuanian SSR. But the then First Secretary of the Communist Party of Lithuania, Snechkus, persuaded the Central Committee of the CPSU not to do this. I'm not saying that this Snechkus understood the strategic importance of the former East Prussia for the security of Russia, but the fact that with such proposals about the prospects for Russia's security was little thought in the then Central Committee of the CPSU, it's a fact! Well, not Prussia, Lithuania under Stalin, then Crimea, Ukraine under Khrushchev! These are the gifts thrown ...

[Unknown]

Quote: north 2

It should be noted that after the Second World War, it was proposed to include the present Kaliningrad region into the Lithuanian SSR. But the then First Secretary of the Communist Party of Lithuania, Snechkus, persuaded the Central Committee of the CPSU not to do this. I'm not saying that this Snechkus understood the strategic importance of the former East Prussia for the security of Russia, but the fact that with such proposals about the prospects for Russia's security was little thought in the then Central Committee of the CPSU, it's a fact! Well, not Prussia, Lithuania under Stalin, then Crimea, Ukraine under Khrushchev! These are the gifts thrown ..

Snechkus was worried about a completely different problem. The German population of East Prussia and Memel was partly evacuated by the leadership of the Reich in 1944-45, the rest were deported to Germany in 49. People from the Russian Federation, the Byelorussian SSR, and also demobilized soldiers began to come to the Kaliningrad region, as well as Klaipeda, for restoration. Now the population of Lithuania is 2,9 million people. Of these, 2,4 million are directly ethnic Lithuanians (this is 84%). 1 million people live in the Kaliningrad region. 86% are Russians. Thus, the number of Russians in Lithuania would not be 5,8% as it is now, but all 24%. A nightmare of Snechkus and Lithuanian nationalists. And what about Russian security and prospects, Yeltsin had to think in 91, and GDP in 2004.In a 1993 letter to US President Bill Clinton, Russian President Boris Yeltsin did not oppose such developments. Yeltsin noted that any possible integration of Eastern European countries into NATO would not automatically lead to the alliance turning against Russia in one way or another. Next was this..According to Estonian diplomat Jüri Luik, Russian troops on the territory of the Baltic states were the strongest card in Moscow's sleeve, which, in case of emergency, could be played to destabilize the region. Liberal traitors began to tell tales about the imminent acceptance of the Russian Federation into NATO ......

“Partnership for Peace” is first and foremost a compromise. Proclaiming the ultimate goal of the admission of new members to NATO (formally, Russia is not excluded from their number, because the program is intended for all members of the CCAS)

Well, well, how did you wait. Ears from a dead donkey. Yes, the Central Committee of the CPSU, I definitely would not have thought of this! Yes. And finally....Russian President Vladimir Putin gave an interview on American National Public Radio. To the host's question: "Does Russia object to the admission of the three Baltic republics to NATO?" Putin replied that this question cannot be reduced to a "yes" or "no" answer. That's how it is. More interesting ... "NATO was created to counter the Soviet Union. At the moment there is no threat from the Soviet Union, because the Soviet Union is no more. And where there was once the Soviet Union, there are now a number of countries, including a new and democratic Russia..... Russia is ready to expand its cooperation with NATO. And if we change the quality of relations, if we change the format of relations between Russia and NATO, then I think that NATO expansion will cease to be a problem. <…> We are certainly not in a position to tell people (of the Baltic States) what to do. We cannot prevent people from making certain choices if they want to improve the security of their countries in a certain way. But I don’t think that the mechanical expansion or strengthening of NATO makes sense,” Vladimir Putin answered. .... So who, and what was he thinking before, there is no need to talk now. Result on the face. When you look at the long-standing statements of the Russian leadership, you are amazed, it probably lives in its created world of illusions ..

Russian Foreign Minister Igor Ivanov said in an interview with the British Times that Moscow no longer views NATO's eastward expansion as a threat to its own interests. “[Now] we have one common enemy – global terrorism,” said the head of the Russian Foreign Ministry.

And further....

“Today, in the days of trials for Western civilization, Russia has a unique chance to actually prove to the Americans and Europeans that it is a friend, ally, partner and like-minded person. As the Izvestia commentator believes, right now the foundations of a new world order are being laid for many years to come, alliances are being formed and reformed. If Moscow manages to convince the Americans that we are not an adversary and not a potential source of threat, our expert believes, then many problems that seem insoluble today will be much easier to solve.”


Izvestia, September 16, 2001

But these people have not gone anywhere, they also rub in the corridors of power. So where did the Russian Federation, the foreign ministry lead, what gifts did it give the US and the EU? Who would have thought? The most interesting, under whose leadership?

[north 2]

if after the victory of the West in the Cold War, Russia actually didn’t even utter a peep when the Baltic states were included in NATO, then the West would not utter a peep, if immediately after the victory of the USSR in the Second World War, the USSR would have included the Baltic states in the RFSSR in the form of regions of the RFSSR, abolishing these national republics . The five-hundred-year history of the Russian state directly suggested this.
Perhaps then, even with the advent of Gorbachev and Yeltsin, there would be no geopolitical collapse of the country and we would still live in our common state and our Motherland of the USSR would not disappear. But history does not recognize the subjunctive mood.
And the fact that Snechkus refused East Prussia as part of the Lithuanian SSR does not diminish the horror and absurdity that such an offer was made to him by the Kremlin communists ...,

[Sergej1972]

The inclusion of the Baltic republics into the RSFSR as regions did not correspond to the foundations of the Leninist-Stalinist national policy. These three republics fully corresponded to the criteria of a union republic, which were outlined by Stalin in his speech at the last Congress of Soviets in history, at which in 1936 a new constitution of the USSR was adopted. Although, by the way, the Karelian-Finnish SSR formed in 1940 did not meet these criteria either in terms of national composition or in terms of population.

[Unknown]

Quote: north 2

then the West would not have made a peep if, immediately after the Victory of the USSR in the Second World War, the Baltic states of the USSR would have been included in the RFSSR in the form of regions of the RFSSR, abolishing these national republics.

If, yes, if only, Peter III, a lover of Prussia, had not given Koninsberg with the adjacent territory, it would have been a province within the Republic of Ingushetia. The empire collapsed in the year 17, just like in the year 91, then, under the auspices of England and France, the Baltic limitrophes were formed with the United States, Comrade Stalin had to reckon with this. Since he negotiated with the leaders of the states, the current Russian pygmies should learn from politics, all the more Roosevelt and Churchill were politicians with a capital letter, not like any Macrons, Scholz, Bidens ... Recording of a conversation between I.V. Stalin and F. Roosevelt
December 1, 1943 at 15 p.m. 20 minutes ... Roosevelt. The question of incorporating the Baltic Republics into the Soviet Union may be raised in the United States, and I believe that world public opinion will deem it desirable that sometime in the future the opinion of the peoples of these republics on this matter should be expressed in some way. Therefore, I hope that Marshal Stalin will take this wish into account. I personally have no doubt that the peoples of these countries will vote for joining the Soviet Union as unanimously as they did in 1940.

Stalin. Lithuania, Estonia and Latvia did not have autonomy before the revolution in Russia. The tsar was then in alliance with the United States and England, and no one raised the issue of withdrawing these countries from Russia. Why is this question posed now?

Roosevelt. The fact is that public opinion does not know history. I would like to speak with Marshal Stalin about the internal situation in the United States. Elections are coming up in the United States next year. I do not want to put forward my candidacy, but if the war continues, then I may be forced to do so. There are six or seven million citizens of Polish origin in America, and therefore, being a practical person, I would not like to lose their votes. I agree with Marshal Stalin that we must restore the Polish state, and personally I have no objection that the borders of Poland be moved from east to west - up to the Oder, but for political reasons I cannot participate at the present time in deciding this question. I share the ideas of Marshal Stalin, I hope that he will understand why I cannot publicly participate in resolving this issue here in Tehran, or even next spring.

Stalin. After Roosevelt's clarification, I understand this.

Roosevelt. There are also some Lithuanians, Latvians and Estonians in the United States. I know that Lithuania, Latvia and Estonia, both in the past and very recently, were part of the Soviet Union, and when the Russian armies re-enter these republics, I will not fight the Soviet Union because of this. But public opinion may demand a plebiscite there.

Stalin. As regards the will of the peoples of Lithuania, Latvia and Estonia, we will have many occasions to give the peoples of these republics the opportunity to express their will.

Roosevelt. This will be useful to me.

Stalin. This, of course, does not mean that the plebiscite in these republics should be held under any form of international control ..... This is, so to speak, for external ones, but for internal ones .... ... "Russian tsars ... did one good deed - put together a huge state to Kamchatka. We inherited this state. And for the first time we, the Bolsheviks, have united and strengthened this state as a single, indivisible state, not in the interests of the landowners and capitalists, but in favor of the working people, of all the peoples that make up this state. We have united the state in such a way that every part that would be cut off from the common socialist state would not only harm the latter, but would also be unable to exist independently and would inevitably fall into someone else's bondage. Therefore, everyone who tries to destroy this unity of the socialist state, who strives to separate a separate part and nationality from it, is an enemy, a sworn enemy of the state, the peoples of the USSR. And we will destroy every such enemy, even if he were an old Bolshevik, we will destroy his entire family, his family ... ”[182] While Stalin was alive, not one ... abomination could not utter a word, and then all sorts of .. ..there are no words, only letters, and kirdyk came to everything that was created centuries and a lot of blood. The current rulers blew everything.

[Sergej1972]

Together with the Germans, the majority of Prussian Lithuanians also left East Prussia. Unlike other Catholic Lithuanians, they were Lutherans and were heavily Germanized. Although a small part remained to live in the Lithuanian SSR.

[Edward Vashchenko]

but the fact that, with such proposals, little thought was given to the prospects for Russia's security in the then Central Committee of the CPSU, this is a fact! Well, not Prussia, Lithuania under Stalin, then Crimea, Ukraine under Khrushchev! These are the gifts thrown ...

Of course, they could not even think that in 30 years, the Soviet people or its active part, in pursuit of jeans and video recorders, would support the restoration of the bourgeois dictatorship in the country.
And that, in turn, will squander the country.
And who can foresee this in the history of mankind?
Can any of the people think that his grandson will be a drunkard and sell the family dacha?
So it is not necessary from a sick head to a healthy one. If it were not for Yeltsin's coming to power in the DEMOCRATIC ELECTIONS, no collapse would have occurred.
PS And the communists came up with all sorts of social benefits: free medicine, education there, adequate pensions, and the current rulers suffer with this.

[Trilobite Master]

My compliments, Edward.

Quote: Eduard Vaschenko

Yeltsin's coming to power in the DEMOCRATIC ELECTIONS

Oh, and what are these very "democratic elections"?
The democratic referendum showed that people want to live in the USSR - who was interested?
There are also persistent rumors that in 1996 Yeltsin lost the "democratic elections" - for some reason I believe in this - and this is also of little interest ...
I'm not talking about how people decide who to vote for. What is more important for people - the political program or the personality of the candidate? Somehow I still think it's the latter.

[Aag]

Quote: Edward Vashchenko

but the fact that, with such proposals, little thought was given to the prospects for Russia's security in the then Central Committee of the CPSU, this is a fact! Well, not Prussia, Lithuania under Stalin, then Crimea, Ukraine under Khrushchev! These are the gifts thrown ...

Of course, they could not even think that in 30 years, the Soviet people or its active part, in pursuit of jeans and video recorders, would support the restoration of the bourgeois dictatorship in the country.
And that, in turn, will squander the country.
And who can foresee this in the history of mankind?
Can any of the people think that his grandson will be a drunkard and sell the family dacha?
So it is not necessary from a sick head to a healthy one. If it were not for Yeltsin's coming to power in the DEMOCRATIC ELECTIONS, no collapse would have occurred.
PS And the communists came up with all sorts of social benefits: free medicine, education there, adequate pensions, and the current rulers suffer with this.

To be honest, I didn’t think that such an article (meaning the topic, not the quality) would cause such a resonance (judging by the comments).
Dear Eduard Vashchenko (I'm by nickname)!
I agree with much of what you wrote above this comment. But...
"... the Soviet people or its active part, in pursuit of jeans and video recorders, will support the restoration of the bourgeois dictatorship in the country ..."
Don't you think, if you remember, think about it, - that this wording, about jeans, vids, lace panties, has been accustomed to us in recent years?
Many events, of course, have passed, but, concentrating, interviewing colleagues, acquaintances, etc., I "returned" myself to those years - not what people say now, but what they lived then, what they wanted, on what they hoped.
Not at all for any kind of "buns" was the calculation of, as you write, the "Soviet people", "its active part." Well, remember - with what slogans Gorbachev "came" to the people!
He did not offer to destroy anything, break ... OPTIMIZE !! Rebuild... Yes! Many agreed.
On this they "bought", deceived ...
What you wrote about (jeans, etc.), among my acquaintances (different environments), are few. Maybe because then most of the respondents were from the Baltics, and I myself was already almost 7 thousand. km from there?

[Aag]

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[Glagol1]

The Bolsheviks had a false slogan "workers of all countries, unite." They just didn't understand where the world was going. Hence all these errors.

[tihonmarine]

Quote: Glagol1

The Bolsheviks had a false slogan "workers of all countries, unite."

Forgetting that the bourgeois proletariat can be bought.

[Edward Vashchenko]

The Bolsheviks had a false slogan "workers of all countries, unite." They just didn't understand where the world was going. Hence all these errors.

If this was written in 1992, one would understand, but in 2023!
Yes, the Bolsheviks did not know, but now knowledge

where is the world going

though more than enough.
The mistakes of the Bolsheviks? Seriously?

[ABC-schutze]

Where does the so-called "go" The Bolsheviks perfectly and EXACTLY understood the "peace" already in August 1914 ...

[Sergej1972]

"This" Snechkus was actually one of the smartest leaders of the union republics of the USSR. He enjoyed the respect of Stalin, and Khrushchev, and Brezhnev. In the Lithuanian SSR, he enjoyed great prestige among the population. He headed the Lithuanian Communist Party from 1940 to 1974. thirty-three and a half years! In my opinion, none of the leaders of the communist parties of the union republics has led a republican party organization for so long and continuously. Stalin himself proposed to include East Prussia in the Lithuanian SSR, but Snechkus managed to convince the leader.

[Sergej1972]

Small correction. T. Zakrzhevskaya survived. She was released in 1954.

[IgorIP]

The author is doing badly with mathematics ... Twenty times, and doubling every five years for fifty years, these are two different numbers ... But in general it was interesting to read)

[DefenderofTruth]

Article 578 of the Civil Code of the Russian Federation: Cancellation of a donation

1. The donor has the right to cancel the donation if the donee has made an attempt on his life, the life of any of his family members or close relatives, or has intentionally caused bodily harm to the donor.

Poland, the Czech Republic, Lithuania, Ukraine are now encroaching on the life of Russian soldiers with their weapons and mercenaries.
Everything back!

[Mikhail Ivanov]

In general, the policy of the communists was very controversial. They handed out territories to the right and left, completely not calculating their strategic importance. I am sure that the German port of Memel was liberated by anyone except the Lithuanians. And it was built by the whole country after the war. And all the fruits of labor are still used by the labus. This, to put it mildly, is not fair... Yesterday Veshnyakov gave a good description of Russia's security belt. According to him, Memel should be returned back, and Poland should be moved away from the Baltic Sea. The Psheks have a dream - Poland from sea to sea, there will be another reality - Poland without a sea and without problems with Russia. But the survivors will remain, who will have time ...

[Ulysses]

In general, the policy of the communists was very controversial. They handed out territories to the right and left, completely not calculating their strategic importance.

The communists of the times of Joseph Vissarionovich did not assume that their heirs would first switch to the policy of "peaceful coexistence" of the times of L.I. Brezhnev, and then completely surrender everything under Gorbachev.
As long as the influence of the communist (socialist) idea was steadily spreading throughout the world, this was justified.

[Mikhail Ivanov]

Quote from DefenderofTruth

The donor has the right to cancel the donation if the donee has made an attempt on his life

But!

[Uma palata]

Well, and what now to complain about once and not taken the right decisions? Yes, they built an excellent port for the Lithuanians, at the expense of the budget of the Union, the bastard traitor gave everything to them, fixing a long-standing mistake. Now why talk about it, about what has already been irretrievably lost.
Germany will not dare to declare a return, the Germans live strictly on the command of the Americans, but such a command has not been received.
Reading about this only gets irritated, realizing once again what monstrous losses we suffered in the 90s.