American analysts: If Russia and China create a military coalition, then the US Overmatch project may turn out to be an empty idea

Director of the Center for Defense Concepts and Technology at the Hudson Institute in the United States, Brian Clark, told the Defense News news portal that the Overmatch project (“Superiority”) needs the strictest secrecy, since China and Russia are closely monitoring the US Navy. As the expert clarified, all this is being done in order to prevent the leakage of information about the preparation of the American naval forces for possible large-scale military conflicts in the future.

There is no need to go into too much detail on this issue, as this information could be used by China to try to counter this.

- the expert noted.

Project Overmatch was created with the financial support of the Pentagon and the US Navy. It provides for the integration of information systems of all types of troops (Air Force, Army, Marine Corps, fleet and space forces), allowing for fast and efficient management of units anywhere in the world, which works on the basis of artificial intelligence. All this was made possible thanks to the concept of joint multi-domain command and control JADC2.

The bottom line is that the project is a large-scale integration of forces and assets at sea and in the coastal zone, thanks to which the United States expects to achieve superiority against an enemy with comparable capabilities. Moreover, if such opponents (and this is Russia and China) create a military coalition, then, according to American analysts, the Overmatch project may turn out to be an empty undertaking.

According to Clark, China is trying to neutralize JADC2 with a technology called Multi-Domain Precision Warfare (MDPW). This is an attempt by Beijing to link command and control, intelligence, surveillance and reconnaissance in order to quickly coordinate the use of its firepower.

The US Navy is looking for ways to raise additional funds to further implement the program in the amount of $195 million in 2023, which is $73 million more than the planned expenditure for this purpose for 2022.

Comments

[Stella Haddad]

Well, firstly, the fleet and satellite constellation of Russia are weak, and secondly, why is it for China, which considers Russia to be a satellite at most?

[Alexander Ivanov_11]

Dun nah, but we didn't know the outcome of this party...

[Shurik70]

China is interested in Russia and the US arguing for its good attitude.
Too much Chinese money has been invested in the US, so he will not finally quarrel with them. So, occasionally threaten with a finger when they completely lose their banks.
China should not quarrel with Russia either - it is too close a neighbor, a good sales market. Yes, and sometimes it is necessary to break off the United States, and Russia is perfect here.
So China is satisfied with the current "status quo"

[Doccor18]

Quote: Shurik70

China should not quarrel with Russia either - it is too close a neighbor, a good sales market.

Small market. The value of Russia for China is different: as long as there is a loyal Russia, the blockade of the PRC is impossible in principle - this is a big trump card in the confrontation with the United States.

Quote: Shurik70

So China is satisfied with the current "status quo"

What is, that is, China is still satisfied with almost everything.

[bayard]

Quote: Doccor18

Small market.

Nevertheless, the volume of trade with China reached (and exceeded) 200 billion dollars. And if China removes all restrictions on trade with us (and it observes these restrictions), then these volumes can easily and naturally grow up to 300 and even up to 400 billion dollars in the shortest possible time. , especially against the background of curtailed trade relations between the Russian Federation and the EU, the USA, and other satellites.

Quote: Doccor18

The value of Russia for China is different: as long as there is a loyal Russia, the blockade of the PRC is impossible in principle - this is a big trump card in the confrontation with the United States.

For China, there is now a huge threat that if the Russian Federation is suddenly broken in one way or another (and they break us), then China will come to an end very quickly. Under no circumstances can China be pulled out alone. Moreover, he has not yet built a real ocean fleet and his fleet has not matured, he has problems with long-range aviation, and strategic nuclear forces will not reach the desired level until the end of the decade, although work is proceeding at an accelerated pace.
So the statements of official China about the desire to jointly build a "just future", followed by the statement of Kim's sister that they are with Russia to the end and Russia will tear everyone apart ... it's not just that. Russia just very harmoniously complements China's capabilities in a very likely confrontation with the United States and our strategic nuclear forces, including their naval component, our nuclear submarine fleet, our Long-Range Aviation and our ability, with a reliable rear, to resist all of NATO in the European theater of operations.
But if we have such a, frankly, forced, allied company, then China should also remove all restrictions on trade with the Russian Federation and stop being cunning in joint projects (we are talking primarily about the announced scam in the joint project CR-929), as well as more actively to fit into cooperation in our civil shipbuilding ... instead of the retired Koreans of the south (on the Zvezda and not only).
I would categorically recommend returning to the issue of building a series of escort frigates in China based on their type. 054A - hulls with engines and general ship systems for our combat and hardware content. In China, they are being built quickly, and our programs are stalled due to problems with the power plant. Thus, it would be possible to get 8-12 such frigates for the Pacific Fleet in the shortest possible time. Plus, it is highly desirable to order up to four UDC Type there. 071 . And also for the Pacific Fleet. Thus, in the shortest possible time, we would receive the necessary ships for the Pacific Fleet, which would create a worthy counterbalance (by joint efforts) to the fleets of Japan, the United States and other AUKUS.
And on our own, we will revive the Pacific Fleet ... to the "poppy spell".
And we urgently need to resolve the issue with AWACS aircraft. At least on the basis of the Tu-214, at least on the basis of the Il-76MD90A, but extremely quickly and in sufficient quantities.

[Boa kaa]

Quote: Shurik70

Yes, and sometimes it is necessary to break off the United States, and Russia is perfect here.

China should be grateful to us for the most "I can't!", Because Russia, conducting a NMD in the country-U, gives China time to build up its strategic nuclear forces and prepare to solve the Taiwan issue. As long as the States are tied up in Ukraine, they cannot come to grips with China. According to the forecast of the Swedish Institute for the Study of War and Peace, by 2027-30 China will have 1000-1200 megaton-class SBPs and will be on the same level with the United States and the Russian Federation in strategic nuclear forces. After that, the hopes of the States for superiority over the hungfuzes can be shoved down the drain.
So, two An-124s with elements of the KEB, which flew to us from Beijing after D. Medvedev's meeting with comrade. Xi, this is a small fraction of what the "Chinese comrades" had to pay us for the time provided to prepare for the battle for Taiwan.
AHA.

[albert]

Quote: Boa constrictor KAA

So, two An-124s with elements of the KEB, which flew to us from Beijing after D. Medvedev's meeting with comrade. Xi, this is a small fraction of what the "Chinese comrades" had to pay us for the time provided to prepare for the battle for Taiwan.

Well, there the IL-76 also regularly fly with ALL kinds of cargo.

[Skeptic3]

Well, there the IL-76 also regularly fly with ALL kinds of cargo.

You don't have to think about what you don't know. Maybe there's underwear or iPhones. We buy gigantic volumes of consumer goods from China for every taste. And we sell raw materials back at huge discounts to world prices.

[bayard]

Quote: Boa constrictor KAA

China should be grateful to us for the most "I can't!", Because Russia, conducting a NMD in the country-U, gives China time to build up its strategic nuclear forces and prepare to solve the Taiwan issue.

By deed, by deed, gratitude must be expressed.

Quote: Boa constrictor KAA

According to the forecast of the Swedish Institute for the Study of War and Peace, by 2027-30 China will have 1000-1200 megaton-class SBPs and will be on the same level with the United States and the Russian Federation in strategic nuclear forces.

According to the plans of the party congress, by 2030 they should have 1000 nuclear weapons on strategic carriers. And the Russian Federation and the USA each have 1550 pieces. according to the contract . In addition, by this time China will not have a full-fledged triad. They will not have the same long-range / strategic aviation ... even though they work. approaching, but not yet. Their submarines are also progressing, but in terms of stealth and technical perfection, they still do not reach the level of the United States and the Russian Federation. Samples may appear, but there will be no quantity - they simply will not have time.
So, willy-nilly, we cannot pull each other out now, and it is necessary to consider the prospects for such an alliance for about 15 years. And the United States will seek to deal with us much earlier ... But against both at once, it will not pull. And if you create a coalition, including the Koreans of the North, Iran ... this will keep India from participating in AUCUS. And if you connect the countries of Latin America, then the Anglo-Saxons will see the sky with a sheepskin.
And Africa.
But this requires a mighty Fleet and numerous Aviation.
And North Korea is already "In the same trench" with us - according to their own statement.

[Canna Steinfeldgrubber]

Absolutely agree. Winnie the Pooh will be smarter. Why fight when you can trade.

[Nyrobsky]

Quote from Stella Haddad

Well, firstly, the fleet and satellite constellation of Russia are weak, and secondly, why is it for China, which considers Russia to be a satellite at most?

Yes Yes. Perhaps this is precisely why the PRC turned to Russia and, with its assistance, is rapidly creating a system for early detection of missile launches.

[Beetle1991]

At the last congress of the Communist Party, when Hu Jin Tao (Xi Jin Ping's predecessor) was forcibly taken out of the hall, Comrade Xi spoke about the Bipolar World. He talked about the fact that there are 2 centers of power in the world and the parties must somehow agree, meaning the trade war and the political confrontation between China and the United States. About mutual dependence and so on.
I wonder if, according to Comrade Xi, there are 2 centers of power, the states and China, in whose orbit does Moscow rotate? That's right, now they are older brothers. And in the economy and in most technologies, China is far ahead of Russia.
And if someone thinks that China is almost an ally of Russia, then look at the oil. The Chinese are stocking up on oil from the Saudis (of course not only from them), US allies. That is, if you wanted to help Russia, you do not need to lend money or as assistance. It was possible to simply buy oil, even at prices below the ceiling. But no, China buys from the Saudis at the market price. Meanwhile, Fuel and Energy Minister Alexander Novak announced a 2023 bpd cut in 700.000 production. How much in reality will have to reduce production is unknown.
Or here are the same mavics. China stopped supplying them to Russia and Ukraine.
Good ally.
People, do you still believe that China wants Russia to be strong and independent, or that Russia does not have an economy, that Russia becomes a raw material appendage of China? So that China buys resources on the cheap, processes it itself, and supplies finished products to Russia. Ranging from consumer goods, ending with high technology. How beneficial is China?
Or do you believe that China is Mother Teresa, who wants to help Russia out of altruistic motives?
China has nearly a billion and a half people and very few resources. China needs resources, markets, and in many ways, the Chinese have replaced the departed Western companies.

[gsev]

Quote: Beetle1991

At the last congress of the Communist Party, when Hu Jin Tao (the predecessor of Xi Jin Ping) was forcibly taken out of the hall.

It's just that on October 22, 2022, Hu Jintao's 80-year-old grandfather became ill. But he refused to be given a stretcher, gathered his will into a fist and left the congress on his own feet, clapping on the shoulder admonishing the one whom he recommended for the post of leader of the PRC, his party comrade Xi. In December of the same year, Hu Jintao died and was cremated. He was born into the family of a wealthy tea merchant who became impoverished during the war with the Japanese. In the West, Hu Jintial is hated for his prominent role in defeating separatism in the PRC. He interacted a lot with the inhabitants of Inner Mongolia. In 1989, when strong separatist unrest began in Tibet, it was he who headed the Tibet Autonomous Region and, combining political and forceful methods, kept Tibet within the PRC. In 2007-2009, as the leader of the PRC, Hu Jintao quite effectively suppressed a new outbreak of separatism in Tibet and Xinjiang, combining political and military-police measures. On the Internet there are funny footage of the detention of Tibetan demonstrators and the cleansing of terrorists in Xinjiang cities. As a civilian, Comrade Hu forced the military to recruit an excessively large number of personal personnel into operations. Each demonstrator was tied up by 4-6 police officers, leaving no chance for resistance. On the other hand, the Tebet troublemakers were offered to come to the police themselves and tell all the information about the activities of themselves and their acquaintances during the trouble in exchange for a mild punishment or try to hide in exchange for a very hard one. This has borne fruit. It seems that in Xinjiang, for 6 years, the gangster underground failed to arrange a single sabotage with human casualties, and Tibet turned into a tourist region from a region closed to foreigners. Also, under Comrade Hu, a record was set for the growth of the Chinese economy at a little less than 15% per year.

[Sergey39]

O! Another, mishandled Cossack, carries! ((
Your attempts do not reach the goal!
Go to your people, they will understand you there!

[lockheedmartin]

In a few years, US defense spending will reach a trillion dollars. In 2023, spending on military technology alone will increase to $130 billion. This is more than twice the entire defense budget of the Russian Federation. And we're only talking about research for development here.

[1erWahrheitsMinister_1984]

Das passiert alles auf Kredit den sich die US-Schwerverbrecher jedes
Jahr auf Kosten der "Welt-Schafsherde" selbst genehmigen...!
Tötet den Dollar, dann geht den Amis von Heute auf Morgen der
kreditfinanzierte Saft aus...!!

[Egeny]

Robert, einen Dollar zu töten ist gut, nur wer wird es tun?

[Boa kaa]

Das macht Russland bereits. Lawrows Tour durch Lateinamerika und Afrika widmet sich wirtschaftlichen Fragen und dem Übergang des Handels in die Landeswährung. Das bringt den Dollar ins Grab.

[Egeny]

Alex, I answered the German, because I speak German a little, again, university, internship ...
But you need to use a translator carefully, Google or whatever you used there.
Lavrov is a smart guy, he has a lot of workload on him. That's just the dollar is not bent and even growing.
Our "wise men" from the economic bloc no longer know which currency to attach to, only heard in the news: rial, rupee, yuan...
And the yuan itself is pegged to the dollar, and China has a trade turnover with the states, if in lard, then almost $110, and with us about $30. That's why our "economists" do not remove a couple of extra zeros from bills.

[Egeny]

Ilya, and if we take into account the debt of more than 31 trillion. dollars or 136,62% of US GDP, then someone there stuttered about candy wrappers ...)

[Bingo]

Quote from lockheedmartin

US defense spending reaches $XNUMX trillion

That's just all the wars overslept ... Starting with Georgia, where there was a proxy war between the United States and Russia. Money by itself does not fight, and by the way, no matter how much you increase the money, and the trend towards complete equality of the fleets of China and the United States by the 30th year with all budgets (8, it seems, times more than Chinese?)
So the comparison on candy wrappers can be thrown into the trash. How much is the total budget of NATO and who is already running out of shells with missiles in Ukraine?

[Stella Haddad]

Quote from Bingo

Quote from lockheedmartin

US defense spending reaches $XNUMX trillion

That's just all the wars overslept ... Starting with Georgia, where there was a proxy war between the United States and Russia. Money by itself does not fight, and by the way, no matter how much you increase the money, and the trend towards complete equality of the fleets of China and the United States by the 30th year with all budgets (8, it seems, times more than Chinese?)
So the comparison on candy wrappers can be thrown into the trash. How much is the total budget of NATO and who is already running out of shells with missiles in Ukraine?

China cannot even create a frigate at the level of Europe, what kind of equality?

[Boa kaa]

Quote from Stella Haddad

China cannot even create a frigate at the level of Europe, what kind of equality?

Well, you can’t be so incompetent in naval weapons! The Americans consider the Chinese EM type 055 to be a Cruiser (!) It carries 112 cells for missile weapons ... In terms of the number of NKs, the whales came close to the amers, if they were not already ahead of the hegemon.
Another thing is the submarine fleet. Here the whales lag even behind us.
So, you are wrong about the "frigates".

[albert]

Quote from Stella Haddad

China cannot even create a frigate at the level of Europe, what kind of equality?

Tsipsoshnik close the training manual and at least open the wiki, look at the composition of the Chinese fleet.

[lockheedmartin]

How much is the total budget of NATO and who is already running out of shells with missiles in Ukraine?

Do you understand that what the Americans sent to Ukraine is not even 1 percent of their current equipment?

You understand that the United States is increasing the production of artillery shells by 500 percent over the next two years. What do you think, why and who needs them?

If you say money doesn't matter, good luck, but I warn you, you won't get far.

[Repellent]

Quote from lockheedmartin

what the Americans sent to Ukraine is not even 1 percent of their current equipment

In terms of slag - more likely yes than no. According to intelligent systems, the same Himars-am is a lie.

Yes. Congratulations on the right start to your career

Not a record, but very, very good

[Nyrobsky]

Quote from lockheedmartin

In a few years, US defense spending will reach a trillion dollars. In 2023, spending on military technology alone will increase to $130 billion. This is more than twice the entire defense budget of the Russian Federation. And we're only talking about research for development here.

So what? Russia has the same nuclear triad as the United States and, at modest cost, has put mattresses in the role of catching up in the field of hypersonic development. Whatever their budget, but only Russia is able to nullify the United States as a state, so it’s better for them to agree with us and admit that the world has ceased to be their patrimony than to measure themselves with "pipis".

[poquello]

Quote from Stella Haddad

Mattresses had hypersound even before the "Dagger", but did not accept the Waverider in service.

this hypersound had them, so they didn’t accept

[lockheedmartin]

At present, Russia is not in a position to destroy a single US state. In a few to ten years, the United States will develop a response to Russian ICBMs, then Russia will be defenseless against America.
Given the state of the Russian military, I fear that the state of nuclear weapons is no better and poses a greater threat to the Russians than to the Americans.

[poquello]

Quote from lockheedmartin

At present, Russia is unable to destroy a single US state.

)))))))))))))))) one missile "Sarmat" is guaranteed to destroy a state like Texas, and ten - the United States completely.
and yet, yes, do not expect to sit out in Australia - he also flies there

[Nyrobsky]

Quote from lockheedmartin

At present, Russia is not in a position to destroy a single US state.

Laughed!!! Want to check it out? I don't think it's worth it! But not because I feel sorry for the American states, but because I feel sorry for the flora, fauna and the remnants of the indigenous population, which the mattresses deprived of their ancestral land by occupying America.

Quote from lockheedmartin

In a few to ten years, the United States will develop a response to Russian ICBMs, then Russia will be defenseless against America.

Yes Yes. Judging by your logic, Russia should fall into a coma for these "several to ten years" or tie its hands? No, dear, for the same "several dozen" years, Russia will not stand still and will also develop new types of weapons in order to deprive the mattresses of the illusion that they can strike at Russia with impunity. This will not happen. Let's say it clearly.

Quote from lockheedmartin

Given the state of the Russian military, I fear that the state of nuclear weapons is no better and poses a greater threat to the Russians than to the Americans.

It's good that you think so. If the Pentagon and Brussels think the same way, then imagine what a disappointment awaits them when looking out the window, right in the clearings of their cozy courtyards, they will see nuclear mushrooms growing.

[poquello]

Quote from lockheedmartin

In a few years, US defense spending will reach a trillion dollars. In 2023, spending on military technology alone will increase to $130 billion. This is more than twice the entire defense budget of the Russian Federation. And we're only talking about research for development here.

and what? helps?

[lockheedmartin]

Given that US equipment destined for scrapping halted a three-day Russian operation for a year, the answer is clear.

[S. Nikolaev]

Given that US equipment destined for scrapping halted a three-day Russian operation for a year, the answer is clear.

If by such equipment we mean the liberoid control system (including performers), both in the Russian Federation and in Ukraine, then yes, this has yet to be disposed of. And this task, of course, is a little more difficult, and the process is longer than dealing with pieces of iron on the battlefield.

[poquello]

Quote from lockheedmartin

Given that US equipment destined for scrapping halted a three-day Russian operation for a year, the answer is clear.

American equipment is 300 thousand dead Vushnikov? this is two times more than the number of fighters of the Russian army who entered the operation

[Chief Officer Lom]

As always. The Americans are successfully developing an automated command and control system, the effectiveness of which was demonstrated to them at the Zapad-81 exercises by Marshal Ogarkov. In our country, even under the USSR, they decided that we did not need it, but they kicked the marshal out, replacing them with more "progressive" cadres. The Americans, among other "trophies", received together with the GDR one of the Maneuver automatic control systems and studied the algorithms of its operation with great interest. Even then, the system showed an increase in the effectiveness of troops several times, but now, at the current stage of development of computer technology, I don’t even want to think about the difference, and since then we haven’t been able to fully establish modern radio communications, having stopped in development for 40 years.

[Dude]

The Americans are successfully developing an automated command and control system for troops

What are you talking about? Automatic control system? The interaction of military branches? Intelligence and communications? Yes, why?! A house on Rublyovo-Uspensky, a vacation in Dubai and kids at the university in Foggy Albion, that's what matters! And you are talking about something incomprehensible ...

[phrases]

Let's leave the technical details alone. As history has shown once again, no one is going to fight them globally. The main front in the division of wealth, which everyone calls the economy. And this division has grown into outright criminality with robbery, shooting and other usual methods of destroying competitors on a national scale.

[Maks1995]

This whole presentation is nonsense.
What is "$195 million in 2023"? yes nothing. The price of 2 fighters.
Apparently it’s just the price of developing an already existing control system (according to the notes, they even shoved it into Abrams)

Alliance? Communication Metropolis - neo-colony and so it is. And China will refuse "alliance". What for him such problematic countries, where they kill each other massively ..

[Bingo]

Quote: Max1995

What for him such troubled countries, where mass kill each other.

Are you talking about another shooting in the USA? And then, according to the "world community" - Russia is fighting in another country That's why the hell you are when Bidon, until he completely fell into insanity - and dispersed the year in the 16th ... Disgrace the owner with unimaginable ragulism

[Novichek]

. project Overmatch (“Superiority”) needs the strictest secrecy

. What kind of "strange" secrecy? Is it for this reason that she needs secrecy, and it was necessary to give this interview? Like ".. and I won't tell anyone that ....!" And at the same time yell louder! ? Campaign again begging for money for a super-super next drank)

[Alex242]

Moreover, if such opponents (and this is Russia and China) create a military coalition, then, according to American analysts, the Overmatch project may turn out to be an empty undertaking.

this is unlikely to happen, it is beneficial for China to remain neutral for the time being .....

[poquello]

Quote from Stella Haddad

And yet, the satellite constellation and the Russian fleet against the backdrop of the United States is ridiculous.

off our coasts, the US fleet will be destroyed - that's enough for now

[lopvlad]

Quote from Stella Haddad

Naturally, the Chinese found useful idiots

no one will give them anything for beads just like that, except for beads (handicrafts, fakes for foreign goods). Fools after Gorbachev and Yeltsin are not in power in Russia.
As for the Indians and popuases, the Chinese have been them for the United States for many decades for a penny, producing foreign goods for Europe and the United States, which they sold for real money.

[Boa kaa]

Quote from Stella Haddad

the satellite constellation and the Russian fleet against the backdrop of the United States is ridiculous.

Well, yes, well, yes ... They laughed especially loudly when our Zircons flew ... And then they had a fit of laughter after the news of the descent of the APRK SN Belgorod and the manufacture of a complete Poseidons BC for it ... Apparently they will laugh even louder when the Burevestnik flies and Khabarovsk goes on combat patrol ...
That's just, it seems to me, the laughter of the Yankees is nervous, HYSTERICAL! And in the eyes - frozen HORROR !!!

[Elf]

But the Chermorflot was the funniest of all - the submarine cruiser Moscow is a force!

[Qaqadu]

The main thing here is to stir up, and the dream of any military man to classify, and here they are - the possibilities ...

[Elf]

If a...
Russia is too proud, and China does not need such allies.

[zurbagan63]

It's time to die. 2050 final. I've been predicting for a long time, but no fuck.