“The second battalion will consist of Leopard 2A4”: the Minister of Defense of Germany announced additional deliveries of tanks to the Armed Forces of Ukraine

The German command is forced to withdraw from the army and transfer to the Kyiv regime Tanks Leopard 2 of the modern modification of the A6, since the vehicles of the earlier version of the A4 were removed from service with the Bundeswehr and, while in storage, are in a deplorable state, and therefore their restoration will take a long time.

However, the German military department is trying to get out of this delicate situation:

Of course, this will reduce the arsenals of the troops, but there will be no decrease in the operational readiness of the Bundeswehr

- said Defense Minister Pistorius, whose statement is available on the website of the German Defense Ministry.

According to him, Ukraine needs urgent supplies of tanks, so Germany is handing over A6, of which one battalion will be formed. Subsequently, to create a second battalion, it is planned to transfer the A4, "which will require a little more time." Pistorius also announced the possibility of supplying Leopard 1 tanks. As he explained, consultations are currently underway on this issue.

The main priority of the federal government is to support Ukraine in its struggle for its own sovereignty as necessary, and at the same time not become a party to the conflict.

- explained the head of the Ministry of Defense of Germany.

Apparently, the German authorities continue to play a strange game in which they do not consider themselves a party to an armed conflict, but at the same time they are doing everything so that this conflict takes as many human lives as possible.

Comments

[Fedor Rashkin]

It is very reminiscent of the support of the white movement by the Entente during the civil war.
Give just enough to keep the war going. And no more ...
The same style

[Diversotnik]

well, come on, Fritz, again the Anglo-Saxons are driving you under the Russian sledgehammer ..
This time everything will be different and do not expect pity.

And Bandera in general will be a khan

[Andriuha077]

Leopards 2A4 have already suspected something by looking
about Abrams and Konkurs-M 9M113M 1974

[DMFalke]

Well, if the tank will stand as if on a training ground, but it’s better not to sideways, but turn its ass - then you don’t need a cornet - RPG7 will do it.
Of course, I wish our fighters to see the Leopard strictly from the flank and in a stationary state, but it seems to me that semi-partisan sorties in the middle of the desert are not about NWO

[Elf]

Better not under a sledgehammer, but under a tactical nuclear weapon. Along with some kind of bridge.

[zloybond]

More interesting is the German ambassador from Russia already leaving, or is he supposed to be awarded some other medal from the Russian Federation ????

[Lt. Air Force stock]

But there are a lot of Leopards 1, only in Greece there are several hundred.

[Sith]

With Leopards 1 ... I also think wild troubles will begin ... they must be forced to ride, spend something, gain the required amount of BC ...
But the plans of the Entente are cunning ... they say one thing ... they do another ... but it turns out ... often not what the third wants

[Lt. Air Force stock]

Quote from Sith

I also think wild troubles will begin

Well, there is a 105 mm gun, which is not as dangerous as the RH120. In addition, 105 mm BOPS did not seem to be developing new ones.

[cold wind]

Leopard 1 will penetrate any of our armored vehicles except for the forehead of tanks. But no armor. Can be used as self-propelled guns, reinforcement of motorized rifle and infantry brigades.

[RVAPatriot]

Is there an example???? So our tanks will penetrate from all sides, except for the frontal projection

[Arbeiternegast]

If there are hundreds of lepards-1, then it’s not about 105mm, and not about bops. Mobile support for small tactical groups, and quite serious, this is not Bradley. And with maneuverability and speed, leopard-1 is very good. An old friend had a chance to ride it in the 90s, he admired the driving performance very much, he is a tankman, an officer. I think they will try not to release them against our 72k, only support. And there, xs, that xhl'lam will climb into the head. Of course, they are not an enemy against our MBTs, but for infantry fighting vehicles and other light vehicles, the enemy will be dangerous, especially from ambushes. Again, this is all provided that the leopard-1 somewhere remained in a normal state.

[Aaron Zawi]

Quote: Arbeiternegast

If there are hundreds of lepards-1, then it’s not about 105mm, and not about bops. Mobile support for small tactical groups, and quite serious, this is not Bradley. And with maneuverability and speed, leopard-1 is very good. An old friend had a chance to ride it in the 90s, he admired the driving performance very much, he is a tankman, an officer. I think they will try not to release them against our 72k, only support. And there, xs, that xhl'lam will climb into the head. Of course, they are not an enemy against our MBTs, but for infantry fighting vehicles and other light vehicles, the enemy will be dangerous, especially from ambushes. Again, this is all provided that the leopard-1 somewhere remained in a normal state.

Well, depending on what distance and looking in what projection.

[Skeptic3]

No one will supply Leo1 in "as is" condition. They will be overhauled, probably with modernization. And the units will receive fully serviceable tanks with a restored resource and partly modern equipment.

[Stella Haddad]

Quote: Lt. Air Force stock

Quote from Sith

I also think wild troubles will begin

Well, there is a 105 mm gun, which is not as dangerous as the RH120. In addition, 105 mm BOPS did not seem to be developing new ones.

Their development never stopped.

[Beetle1991]

Well, there is a 105 mm gun, which is not as dangerous as the RH120. In addition, 105 mm BOPS did not seem to be developing new

How easy it is for you.
1) Tanks, this is less than 10% of the equipment on the battlefield. Mostly infantry fighting vehicles / armored personnel carriers / MRAP / armored cars. And all this is destroyed by 105mm OFS.
2) if 105mm OFS flies into the forehead / mask of the tank, goodbye optics / thermal / triplexes / periscopes. What will not fail will be covered with a good layer of black soot. After a direct hit by the OFS, the tank is usually abandoned, since it is problematic to leave on it.

And do not forget, the main means of fighting tanks is anti-tank systems.

[Fizik13]

Quote from Sith

With Leopards 1 ... I also think wild troubles will begin ...

The turn will also come to the M60 and M48 ....

[DMFalke]

Are the upgraded T-62s much better? Or does it only work one way?

[Beetle1991]

are the upgraded T-62s much better? laughing Or does it only work in one direction?

Depends on how it's upgraded.
If you replace the battery, filters, liquids, install a Chinese navigator and an analog walkie-talkie, then it will not be very good at all.
If you put a modern sight, hang dynamic protection, normal communication, in general, as they are now fully modernizing the T-72b3 model of 2016, then yes, fire.

[yho]

M-60s are used in Syria. What's wrong with them?

[Alien From]

They realized that the red lines were just a play on words, that leadership did not take any real action.

[Dmitry Trukhtanov]

Oh, knowing the manner of the Dark One, then when he runs out of patience, everyone will light up .... And Schultz and Duda and other wickedness

[Beetle1991]

Oh, knowing the manner of the Dark One, then when he runs out of patience, everyone will light up .... And Schultz and Duda and other wickedness

It's like Erdogan, you can't get rid of tomatoes alone. And then bam, nuclear power plants at the expense of Rosatom, S-400, oil with horse discounts, a gas hub, and the list goes on.

[tihonmarine]

Quote: Alien From

They realized that the red lines are just a play on words.

The red lines have already ended when NATO started a war with Russia, and now - "who will survive."

[Diversotnik]

Quote: tihonmarine

Quote: Alien From

They realized that the red lines are just a play on words.

The red lines have already ended when NATO started a war with Russia, and now - "who will survive."

There is a war for survival and the outskirts is a training ground .. Until the last Ukrainian? for God's sake! And the goal of Russia is to the last Anglo-Saxon !!!!

[EXPrompt]

Why didn’t Putin declare all the Reymetall plants a legitimate military target, and as accomplices of coming out. Nazism .. After such statements?
It's high time to ditch it..
And then let them think, they will have enough of such a hint and the loss of factories, or they will want to continue the ballet, into radioactive glass all of Germany ..

[Osipov9391]

Well, is it really not clear in a year that we didn’t have anything normal with which to slam this Ukraine?
All conventional means and weapons have already been tried. There is no result.
All who need it have long been analyzed and understood.

Aviation even to Vinnitsa or Odessa does not fly a couple of hundred kilometers from the front line - they will shoot down.

And so in everything.

[Repellent]

Quote: Osipov9391

Well, is it really not clear in a year that we didn’t have anything normal with which to slam this Ukraine?

Buddy,

Six months ago, you were whining here that all the planes were shot down by the Russian Federation, and helicopters too. Posted a lot of pictures, and whined. Continuously.

Then they retrained for "ballistic missiles in a plating" from England and other close places. Also - did not work.

Third iteration? Did you get a new methodology? Well, go ahead...

[Skeptic3]

My friend, you've been doing manilovism and hat-taking for a year here. How many more years must pass and how many more soldiers will die before you begin to notice reality?

[Repellent]

Quote: Skeptik3

My friend, you've been doing manilovism and hats for a year here

Studio examples. With quotes, from me

And then the balabol is still obtained. Of you

[Skeptic3]

Looked at your post history. You are an ordinary troll. There are a lot of posts, but almost all of them are empty.
Separately, this was amused: "But Putin confirmed the version of TASS, and he usually doesn't screw up."

[Repellent]

Quote: Skeptik3

There are a lot of posts, but almost all of them are empty

Your rating is very important to me, thank you

It's hard to be very meaningful, chasing a stupid troll. Well, here's a type of you, like that

[Klmn]

I already wrote to you that everything is clear with you, they say the plaster is being removed, the client of that ... and in general we will all die, and the West and the Yusovites will bloom in full bloom ... if you haven’t seen it, then so, I repeat, if you saw it, then so I remind...
In all your posts in a nutshell: "everything is lost !!!" Well, at least diversify something, intelligible evidence would lead ...
P.S. Skeptic

[Skeptic3]

If you read my posts, then you could see the rationale more than once.
In short, the economic, technological and military potential of the collective West exceeds Russia's by dozens of times.
In such a situation, I see no way to even keep busy in the short term. I think that the RF Armed Forces will be slowly pushed back and there will be nothing to counter this, unless Russian politicians perform a miracle by forcing Western governments to agree to put the brakes on the conflict. As previously, this has already been done with the Crimea and Donbass.

[Repellent]

Quote: Skeptik3

The economic, technological and military potential of the collective West exceeds Russia's by dozens of times.
In such a situation, I see no way to even keep busy in the short term.

There have already been examples in history, strain your brain

Although - I understand, you have such a job. My condolences

[Skeptic3]

Could you please give examples of which you mention? So that it doesn't look like you're wasting your tongue?

[Repellent]

My friend, answering a question with a question is a sign of a nation known to all. So are you one of those?

Quote: Skeptik3

you're wasting your tongue

For now, you are doing this. Examples above

[Skeptic3]

No problem. The drain is counted.
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[Osipov9391]

Considering future arms supplies and financial injections to Ukraine, we can make a clear conclusion that the West's plans at least are to squeeze Russia into positions on February 23 and lead to humiliating negotiations with Ukraine to freeze the conflict.
The maximum is to squeeze far beyond the positions of February 23 with the threat of the spread of hostilities to the territory of Crimea and the further threat of Russia's military defeat.

Less than a year before the start of the presidential campaign in Russia. Start pushing as hard as possible.

[Repellent]

Quote: Osipov9391

Western plans

Planned, planned, but not planned

Quote: Osipov9391

Start pushing as hard as possible

The crusher hasn't grown back yet.

Get richer. Dumka. Buddies

[tihonmarine]

Of course, this will reduce the arsenals of the troops, but there will be no decrease in the operational readiness of the Bundeswehr

And what do you want again, "drang nah osten", or turn on your brains, Herr Pistorius, or follow Hitler.

[alexander 66]

What are the red lines? That we are at war with someone? Remember Spain Korea Vietnam that they did not supply weapons and volunteers with an instructor? Only the most brutal and desirable rapid destruction of the Nazis to the last. If country 404 remains, then we will get such a Nazi state that it will not seem enough.

[tihonmarine]

Quote: alexandr 66

What are the red lines?

"Red lines", this is an invention of Europe, this phrase was uttered by Chamberlain - "I brought you peace!" And then all of Europe became the Third Reich.
What are the "lines" when the war of the West is going on to destroy Russia. There are no lines, no law, no democracy - there is nothing, there is only war.
Who will win this war???

[tihonmarine]

Quote: alexandr 66

What are the red lines?

An invention of the Anglo-Saxons and Europe that joined them. There are no more lines. There is a war.

[Dart2027]

As you can see, the German authorities continue to play a strange game in which they do not consider themselves a party to an armed conflict.

The funny thing is that it is. The Germans need all this like a fifth wheel on a cart, but the Americans are twisting their arms. But won’t all these Leopards turn out to be out of order ... Well, the process of training crews can take a year ...

[Viktor Sergeev]

Actually, their new ones are in a terrible state, they will collect all the workable ones at least to get to the shipping station, and then it’s no longer the concern of the Germans, they will burn anyway.

[Aag]

After reviewing some of the comments below in the text ... And what is the difference in principle to e ... vpatoria: caliber, SLA, quantity ...
We, even some of our supposedly compatriots, are trying to convince us that all this is garbage! Think about it!
So far, I personally have only acquaintances, distant relatives among the dead (some of whom are offered to be transported, buried at the expense of relatives, such as volunteers, before the President's Decree ...).
Vile...
It is vile that everything supplied (regardless of the abbreviation, names of the performance characteristics), once again we will grind - as it is in Rus' with the big blood of the best, and ...
Ghouls will remain in power who allowed all this?
Surely ...

[DMFalke]

Stay, rest assured. In our country, officials with dual citizenship, by the way, the law prohibiting such indecency was postponed in 2021 just at the beginning of 2023, and then they somehow forgot about it.

[1erWahrheitsMinister_1984]

"...Oberstes Ziel der deutschen Bundesregierung ist es, die Ukraine bei Bedarf
im Kampf um ihre eigene Souveränität zu unterstützen und gleichzeitig keine Konfliktpartei zu werden..."; soll heißen wasch mich aber mach mich nicht nass!

Russland will ja auch keine Konfliktpartei mit Deutschland werden, darum
werden die Russen die 10 SARMAT (SATAN 2) extra in neutrales und
hübsches Geschenkpapier einpacken, damit es nicht ganz so böse
"ruberkommt"...!!!

[Sibiryak70region]

Create anti-tank detachments from children, ministers, bureaucrats and the rich, and not a single abrams and leopard will fall into the NWO zone

[DMFalke]

how one comma changes the idea this is the great and mighty language. My friend, why are you sending children to war, along with ministers and the rich

[Qas]

How long can you copy this stamp? You know perfectly well that this, unfortunately, will not happen. Unfortunately....
Can you offer something original from yourself?

[Kunica]

Maybe they will also ask us for tanks from the Patriot fleet for modernization and sending to the front? Let's start with Mouse

[Falcon Buster]

They wanted to hand over the old shit, but it got moldy, so they give a6 leopards. But then they will switch to a4 and then to leopard 1 in general. Very interesting logic. Some sort of reversible

[Skeptic3]

It seems to me that the logic is very simple. I'll try to describe it.

A certain number of tanks are needed urgently. You can take them in a fully combat-ready state only from active units, and there only A6 and A7. Therefore, the first batch will be in the A6 variant.

During this time, A4 will be repaired and probably modernized. By the time the next batch is needed, they will be ready.

Leo1 are in the worst condition and equipped with the most outdated equipment. Therefore, their overhaul and, for sure, modernization will take the most time. Therefore, they can be shipped last.

In such a conflict, any reliable tank is valuable, at least to support the actions of the infantry. With skillful use, this is a serious force.

[DMFalke]

The most important and valuable thing in Leopard 2 is the FCS and detection tools - in principle, the Leopard 1A5 should correspond to the early 2-cams in optics and electronics, so there is nothing good in this situation.

[Beetle1991]

They wanted to hand over the old shit, but it got moldy, so they give a6 leopards. But then they will switch to a4 and then to leopard 1 in general. Very interesting logic. Some sort of reversible

Don't look at the situation that way.
They give sixers because they are available, already combat-ready.
The fours will shaman and also send, but it takes time to repair. The same with the first leopards. Rheinmettal recently announced that it would be able to deliver more than 100 first leopards within a year.
And the tanks are needed right now, so they give away what is available, leo2-a6.

[Osipov9391]

I personally don't pay much attention to these tanks.
Aircraft with weapons and tactical missiles planned for delivery are more straining.

About tanks. They can ingloriously burn somewhere in the steppes near Donetsk so that no one will even notice it.

Or they can break into Melitopol and Berdyansk in columns, so much so that the whole world will shudder from these shots.

Then, in the latter case, the Western military-industrial complex will again and again cut coupons receiving orders for cool equipment from all over the world.
As with Himars.

[kventinasd]

Quote: Osipov9391

Or they can break into Melitopol and Berdyansk in columns, so much so that the whole world will shudder from these shots.

Well, yes, of course, he will shudder when the Ukrainians run out completely, and the Western pieces of iron remain. In the meantime, they are gathering, apparently the last meat.

[Repellent]

Quote: Osipov9391

Or they can break into Melitopol and Berdyansk in columns, so much so that the whole world will shudder from these shots

Dreams Dreams,
Where is your sweetness? (With)

A fool, I remind you, grows rich in thought. Your national fun ... buddies

[Andron78]

Rushed, everything, the edges stopped seeing. Of course, it is convenient that we will disarm NATO without going far, but somehow it becomes troublesome, and we don’t want to lose our guys. It's time to come up with something, it's clear that it's not a nuclear strike on a plant, but some kind of economic trick to bring politicians to their senses through the masses. I can’t even imagine what it will be, but the end is about time.

[sgr291158]

And yet they need to be reminded of the 45 year. Somehow they forgot the story.

[DMFalke]

Or maybe we ourselves remember the 45th year? We seem to have forgotten something. Berlin operation, Vistula-Oder operation (20-30 kilometers per day)

[Petr_Koldunov]

Second Battalion??? Well done, figs. But with the second - will be the same as with the first.

And every second is also a hero:
Heaven will follow you!
First, second, first, second, first, second...
(C)

[geologist]

Asho is wrong with storage tanks? Unfashionable seat upholstery? It’s clear, because real Germans should shine only with leather interiors, and it’s understandable, because it’s a shame to give fancy “Merci” with pizopniks made of eco-leather. But we are imperceptibly approaching the moment of complete disarmament of the countries of the former Warsaw Pact. And there is another breakthrough of the "ancient ukrovs" and old Europe, together with the arrogant British and cunning Swedes, will be left without tanks. The United States, China and Russia will remain with heavy weapons, and then we'll see.

[Skeptic3]

And how will Russia stay with them after the Soviet reserves are spent?

[Repellent]

Quote: Skeptik3

And how will Russia stay with them after the Soviet reserves are spent?

Don't fire. Tell us better about Caliber, which the Russian Federation is permanently "running out of".

You do it a little more gracefully

[Sailor]

Leo A6 is very serious and in terms of firepower of 55 calibers and protection is much better and the SLA and optics, according to the A4, we can only resist this tank with Armata, which is practically absent in the troops, and even more so in the SVO.

[Stanislav Sorvinn]

very interesting events are unfolding