The Age of the Five Good Emperors

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The Age of the Five Good Emperors
Tiepolo Giovanni. "Virtue Crowning Honor"


"Happy Century" of the Roman Empire


В stories Ancient Rome has 84 years (from 96 to 180), which is often called the "happy century", "golden age" or "the era of five good (good) emperors." It was at this time that the Roman Empire reached its highest power, the internal situation was stable, the welfare of citizens grew, reaching a maximum, and the external borders were well protected.



It is believed that this period got its name with the light hand of the English historian E. Gibbon, who in his work “The History of the Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire” (1776) wrote:

“If anyone were asked during what period of world history the state of the human race was the happiest and most prosperous, he would have to name without any hesitation the period that elapsed from the death of Domitian to the accession to the throne of Commodus.”

However, the same can be read in Machiavelli, who also mentions the five "good emperors", but in a different context - illustrating the thesis about the perniciousness of hereditary power:

“The emperors who received power by inheritance, with the exception of Titus, were bad; those of them who received power by adoption turned out to be good; an example of this is the five emperors from Nerva to Mark (Aurelius); when the imperial power became hereditary, it fell into decay.

Let us name the names of the five emperors that Gibbon and Machiavelli speak of: Nerva, Trajan, Hadrian, Antoninus Pius (that is, the Pious) and Marcus Aurelius. All of them were representatives of the third from the beginning of the principate of the Roman imperial dynasty, which ruled from 96 to 192, according to the agnomen of the fourth of them - Antoninus Pius, they are called
Antonina (Antonini).

The founder of this dynasty was Marcus Cocceus Nerva, who received power in 96: he was elected by the Senate after the assassination of Emperor Domitian. Dio Cassius says:

"Nerva ... was firmly convinced that a person should be judged by his abilities, and not by origin."


Sculpture of the head of Emperor Nerva, Roman National Museum

This emperor and his successors did transfer power through adoption. In a small series of articles we will talk about them.

Founder of the dynasty


So, the first "good" emperor of the Antonin dynasty is considered to be Marcus Cocceius Nerva, who was born in a city with a suspiciously familiar name - Narnia. The date of his birth is known - November 8, but the year is called both the 30th and the 35th. The Cocci family was not very noble, but ancient and respected, Dion Cassius called him "the most noble." The father, grandfather and great-grandfather of the future emperor were chosen by the consuls, and one of his relatives was married to the great-granddaughter of the emperor Tiberius.

Nerva throughout his life "did not have enough stars from the sky", was elected a quaestor in different years, was a member of the priestly colleges of augurs and Augustals, served as a military tribune, and was appointed prefect responsible for organizing the games.

At the same time, he was also a poet, whose poems Nero appreciated, and Martial called Nerva "Tibull of our time." Poems, unfortunately, have not been preserved, so we cannot assess the objectivity of these reviews.

And in 65, Nerva, apparently, also rendered some valuable service to Nero, playing a large role in exposing the conspiracy of Piso. After the execution of many high-ranking conspirators, Nero unusually generously rewarded three of his associates - Gaius Zephanius Tigellinus, Publius Petronius Turpilian and Marcus Cocceus Nerva. The future emperor received triumphal insignia, one of his statues was installed in the forum, the other - in the Palatine Palace of Nero.

Nerva also had good relations with the commander Titus Flavius ​​Vespasian, the future emperor. According to some sources, in 67, Vespasian, who went to Judea, even asked Nerva to be the guardian of his youngest son Domitian. Suetonius writes that this tutelage went too far: there were persistent rumors of a homosexual affair between Domitian and Nerva.

After the suicide of Nero in 68, Servius Sulpicius Galba was first proclaimed emperor, but already in January 69 he was killed by the Praetorians, who brought to power Mark Salvius Otho, whose brother was married to the sister of Nerva. Already in April of the same year, Otho was defeated by the governor of Upper Germany, Aulus Vitellius, and committed suicide. And Vitellius in December 69 was defeated in a battle with Vespasian, who eventually became emperor. Nerva retained his high position and in 71 was elected consul at the same time as Vespasian himself.

Unlike the eldest son of Vespasian - Titus, Domitian turned out to be a bad ruler and very soon restored all of Rome against him. In addition, he was very superstitious and sought to eliminate those to whom the soothsayers predicted imperial power. He suspected conspiracies everywhere and said:

"Rulers have the worst life: when they discover plots, they are not believed until they are killed."

What is called, as he looked into the water.


Bust of Domitian, Capitoline Museums

One of the owners of a prophecy that was dangerous for him turned out to be Nerva, but he survived, because, according to the concepts of that time, he was already an old man, and also sick. Domitian decided that he would definitely outlive him.

Nerva had nothing to do with the plot during which Domitian was killed on September 18, 96, but his candidacy for the role of emperor unexpectedly suited everyone. Firstly, he was quite experienced in public affairs, secondly, he was not ambitious, and thirdly, everyone knew about his illnesses and did not think that he would live very long.

In general, Nerva was "appointed" by the emperor as a temporary and transitional figure. Now they began to call him Nerva Caesar Augustus (Imperator Nerva Caesar Augustus).


Denarius with a portrait of Emperor Nerva

Nerva promised senators immunity, and also pledged not to make important decisions without discussion in the Senate. They even began to mint coins with the inscription Providencia senatus (“by the will of the senate”).

The new emperor paid great attention to the construction of roads and aqueducts, as well as assistance to the poor, land plots were allocated to the poor, and benefits were paid to orphans. In addition, each citizen received 75 denarii.

The processes of “insulting the majesty of the emperor” were stopped, many convicts were rehabilitated, they were even returned their confiscated property. It was forbidden to make statues of the emperor from precious metals, and the former ones were melted down: coins were minted from the resulting material with the image of the goddess of freedom and the inscription Libertas publica (“Freedom to all”). The memory of Domitian was destroyed, his name was scraped off service tablets and papyrus scrolls.

If we evaluate Nerva objectively, we will have to admit that the first “good emperor” of the Antonin dynasty turned out to be a rather colorless and ordinary person, his influence on state affairs was minimal, and his power was fragile and weak. Nerva himself understood this and said:

“I have done nothing that would prevent me at any moment from resigning my position and living as a private person.”

And he ruled for only a year and a half.

The reason for the precarious position of the new emperor was the fact that he came to power without the help of the army, which as a whole turned out to be hostile to him - especially the Praetorians. Even a one-time payment of a bonus of 5 thousand denarii to each soldier did not help. In the autumn of 97, the Praetorians broke into the imperial palace and demanded that the murderers of Domitian be handed over to them - and Nerva was forced to yield.

After that, he seriously thought about his successor, realizing that only a very strong and authoritative person in the troops could, in such circumstances, retain power after his death. It was Nerva who became the author of the idea of ​​co-rulership: the senior co-ruler, Augustus, appointed a successor who bore the title of Caesar.

Nerva made his choice in October 97, and this decision turned out to be extremely successful. The governor of Germany, Mark Ulpius Trajan, an experienced and respected commander, whom he had to adopt, became his chosen one. Pliny, in his panegeric, later called this decision of Nerva divinely inspired.

In this case, Nerva showed uncharacteristic firmness, since a group of influential senators advocated the candidacy of the governor of Syria, Nigrin Cornelius. Three months later, Nerva died, and Trajan, who did not even dream of such an elevation, became emperor. His full name was now as follows: Markus Ulpius Nerva Traianus (Marcus Ulpius Nerva Traianus).


Trajan. Portrait statue, Copenhagen Glyptothek

The most surprising thing is that the new emperor did not immediately rush to Rome, but for about a year he was engaged in work to strengthen the borders between the upper reaches of the Rhine and the Danube. The famous Trajan's Wall was later built along the Danube border, the remains of which can be seen on the territory of Romania, Moldova and Ukraine.

Origin and military career of Mark Ulpius Trajan


Trajan was second in the line of "good emperors" of the Antonines, but he was also called "second after Augustus", as well as "the best emperor" (Optimus Princeps).

He was born on September 18, 53 in the province of Betica in the city of Italica of Spain, located about 9 km from modern Seville, and became the first emperor who was born outside the metropolis. His plebeian ancestor was from Umbria and came to Spain during the Second Punic War - was settled in the new city by Scipio Africanus - along with other soldiers.

But Mark Ulpius Trajan the Elder, the father of the future emperor, became a senator during the reign of Nero. In 67, he fought in Parthia, in 68 - at the head of the X legion, and took an active part in suppressing the uprising in Judea, where he met and became friends with Vespasian. In 70, Mark Ulpius Trajan the Elder became suffect consul, in 70–73. with the powers of the proconsul was the governor of the province of Baetica.

In the future, his service took place in the east: he was successively twice proconsul of Syria and Asia. His wife, Marcia, was the sister of Emperor Titus, son of Vespasian. In her honor, her son, Emperor Trajan, later named a city in North Africa - Colonia Marciana Ulpia Traiana Thamugadi (the modern city of Timgad in Algeria). And the elder sister of Trajan the Younger, Ulpia Marciana, became the grandmother of Emperor Hadrian.

Trajan began his military service in Syria, from where he was transferred to Germany. In January 81 he received his first magistracy - he became a quaestor, by 86 he had risen to the rank of praetor. In the year 87, we see him as the commander of the VII Double Legion, stationed in Tarraconian Spain. In January 89, he took part in the suppression of the uprising of the proconsul of Upper Germany Saturninus and the Hutts allied to him.

In 91 he was elected consul. After the expiration of his term of office, he was sent as governor to Lower Moesia and Upper Germany. Here in the Colony of Agrippina (modern Cologne) he learned that he had been elected co-ruler and heir to the Emperor Nerva. At this time he was 44 years old.

"Second good emperor" of the Antonine dynasty



Trajan, armored statue, Copenhagen Glyptothek

Trajan is described as a tall and strong man who greyed early, whose expression was always concentrated and serious. Dio Cassius writes about him:

“Among all the rest, he stood out for his courage and thirst for justice, his habits were unassuming. The emperor never showed envy towards others, never killed anyone. Any worthy person could find nothing in him but admiration.
Trajan did not feel hatred or fear of the worthy, and therefore tried to elevate them as much as possible.
He knew how to manage money - he spent huge amounts both on the training of soldiers and their weapons, and on peaceful purposes. The emperor restored roads, harbors and completely destroyed buildings...
Trajan was next to the people both in feasts and hunting, and in difficult times. He loved to be a guest of ordinary people, entered their homes without bringing guards with him.

Trajan, by the way, was even reproached for dropping his imperial dignity by behaving like an ordinary citizen.

Let's continue to quote Dio Cassius:

"Although he (Trajan) did not receive a serious education, the emperor knew a lot and was able to do a lot."

The same author reports:

"It is known that he drank as much as he wanted, but at the same time retained clarity of mind."

It is Trajan who is credited with the authorship of this famous aphorism:

“It is better to leave a criminal unpunished than to convict an innocent.”

He also said:

"I want to be the kind of emperor I would wish for myself if I were a subject."

Trajan increased the number of legions by two (in 105, II the Fearless Trajan and XXX Victorious Ulpiev were added): now there are 30 of them. Physicians appeared in the legions and cohorts. New auxiliaries were created, including such exotic units as the dromedarii (camel riders, Ala I Ulpia dromedariorum).

It was under Trajan that the Roman Empire reached its maximum size.

The largest conquest of this emperor was Dacia (two Dacian wars lasted from 101 to 106, 14 legions took part in them - almost half of the entire army of the empire). Many Romans and Italians were resettled in this province, mindful of this, the rulers of the state created in the XNUMXth century by uniting the Wallachian and Moldavian principalities that gained independence from Turkey, called the new country Romania. Although by that time there was nothing left of the Roman influence in it, except for the language belonging to the Romance group.

The booty obtained as a result of the Dacian wars was unusually large: about 165 tons of gold and up to 331 tons of silver were delivered to Rome. As a result, in 106, all taxes were abolished, and every Roman citizen received an amount twice the annual salary of a legionnaire. The distribution of wine and butter was added to the free distribution of bread.


Aureus with a portrait of Trajan

At the insistence of Trajan's wife, Pompeii Plotina, a fund was formed to help orphans and abandoned children, which operated throughout Italy. Pliny the Younger wrote about this woman:

“Your wife, Caesar, is well suited to your glory and serves as an adornment to you. Is it possible to be purer and more chaste than her?

They say that, having crossed the threshold of the imperial palace for the first time, Plotina said, turning to the crowd:

“I wish I could leave these walls the same as I enter here.”


Sculpture of the head of Pompeii Plotina. Roman National Museum

In honor of the victory over the Dacians under the leadership of Apollodorus of Damascus, the famous column was erected in Rome (construction was completed in 113). At first, it was crowned with a Roman eagle, then with a statue of Trajan, and in 1588, by order of Pope Sixtus V, a bronze statue of St. Peter was placed on its top.


Postcard depicting Trajan's Column


Scene of the battle between the Romans and the Dacians on Trajan's Column

Other large projects implemented under Trajan were the harbor at Centumcellae (now the port of Civitavecchia), the Danube road and the road from the Black Sea to the Euphrates, a canal that connected the Nile with the Red Sea.

During the wars with Parthia, it was possible to capture Great Armenia and Mesopotamia, but it was not possible to keep these lands - they were lost shortly after the death of Trajan.


Emperor Trajan and the Parthians. Ivory carving. Ephesus Archaeological Museum

In 117, Trajan, returning to Rome, died in Cilicia - in the city of Selinus (Selinunte), the ruins of which are located 45 km from Turkish Alanya. He was 64 years old, he ruled Rome for 19 years, and at that time his full title was as follows:

"Emperor Caesar, Son of the Divine Nerva, Nerva Trajan Best August Germanic Dacian Parthian, Great Pontifex, endowed with the power of the people's tribune 21 times, Emperor 13 times, Consul 6 times, Father of the Fatherland."

Trajan had no sons, and his only male relative was his cousin Adrian. He was adopted by Trajan and ascended the throne, becoming the "third good emperor" of the Antonine dynasty.


Bust of Hadrian, Prado Museum, Madrid

"Boldness" of Pope Gregory I Dialog and "posthumous baptism" of Emperor Trajan


In the oldest "Life of St. Gregory the Great", kept in the English monastery of Whitby and dated 700, it is stated:

“Some of our people tell the story, told by the Romans, about how the soul of Emperor Trajan was renewed and even baptized with the tears of Saint Gregory...
For they say that when he (Trajan), at the head of an army, hastily marched against the enemy, he was moved to pity by the words of a widow, and the emperor of the whole world stopped ... standing in all his weapons, he forced the defendants immediately in his presence to pay the compensation that they were must.
When Gregory heard about this story, he knew that this is what we read in Scripture: “Defend the orphan, intercede for the widow. Come, then, and let us reason together, says the Lord.”
Gregory went to St. Peter's and shed torrents of tears, as was his custom, until at last he received, by divine revelation, the assurance that his prayers were heard, provided that he would never again undertake to ask for such a thing for anyone. still from the Gentiles."

Paul the Deacon (VIII century) and John the Deacon (IX century) wrote about this in their Lives.

This is where we will finish the story about Trajan, and in the next article we will talk about his successor, Emperor Hadrian.
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  1. +16
    14 January 2023 05: 29
    was elected consul at the same time as Vespasian himself.

    Long live Rev. Vespasian, the founder of the payment for the water utility and the environmental fee personally! wink drinks Without his ideas, many of us would be out of work!
    1. +9
      14 January 2023 06: 05
      Hi, Nikolay!
      Do you have a portrait of Vespasian in your office?
      1. +15
        14 January 2023 06: 25
        Hi, Nikolay!

        Tere, Alexander! No, it's not hanging yet, but I think it should be! However, breadwinner! request Vespasian's ass still feeds a bunch of structures - the water utility, Rospotrebnadzor, Rosprirodnadzor, environmentalists and geologists! good Yes, you know, by education. drinks
        In May 2022, I was in Vitebsk, so there, near the Town Hall, on the pedestrian Suvorov Street (perhaps this is the most tourist center), there was a “collapse”. Trade by hand. Souvenirs and more. Yes One uncle offered me a holster from a German pistol, something like a "Walter PP", for astronomical money. fellow He also had a shabby bust of Pal Petrovich with a half-chipped nose, and generally not very much like the emperor himself. No. He asked for 10 for ours, in cash. wassat I culturally refused ... laughing Here, it is necessary to decide which side I am for, and put up that bust - either Pal Petrovich, or Vespasian, the founder of ecology and the water utility personally. request
        Ah, okay, I'll put a portrait of St. Michael Pare, patron of action films and musicals, so be it! laughing drinks
        And in Belarus there is a casino! And in Polotsk, and in Vitebsk, and in other cities! Lovers - go there! Yes Just do not stay without pants, testing Fortune, know when to stop! stop drinks
        1. +13
          14 January 2023 07: 24
          Vespasian, the founder of ecology and the water utility personally. request

          Isn't he famous for his phrase "money doesn't smell"?
          Hi Nikolay!
          1. +10
            14 January 2023 07: 31
            Quote: Kote pane Kohanka
            Isn't he famous for his phrase "money doesn't smell"?

            He, a rogue, he! He thought of taking money from the working, free and proud Roman people for? Nature. U! Rogue! laughing laughing laughing
            Good morning Vladislav!
            1. +6
              14 January 2023 09: 18
              Whether business in Moscow. First, there is Red Square. And with the former McDonald's and other eateries, you definitely won't get lost.
            2. +7
              14 January 2023 09: 39
              I thought of taking money from the working, free and proud Roman people
              But the baths were free.
            3. +9
              14 January 2023 11: 09
              I thought of taking money from the working, free and proud Roman people
              ,,, and gave to earn:

              Let me feed my people (c)
            4. 0
              26 March 2023 18: 10
              Well, there was something to take for))) Roman toilets were arranged a little differently than modern ones. Let's just say that liquid and soft fractions did not mix there. Urine was collected separately and sold to textile and leather dyers. Urea is a good natural paint fixer. By the way, in some poor regions of Africa and Asia, it is still used in this capacity)
          2. +10
            14 January 2023 07: 57
            Isn't he famous for his phrase "money doesn't smell"?

            So. Yes Vespasian introduced a fee for the use of public toilets. And when his son, the future emperor Titus, said something like: "Fi, daddy, this money stinks of feces...", Vespasian took a silver sestertius with him, and slipped it under his son's nose, adding: "Come on, smell it... Does this coin smell of something?" wink
            Then the phrase was distorted, and a cynical expression came into use - "Money doesn't smell." But, in the end, we all pay for sewerage, and then we came up with ecology - also in Ancient Rome. If in Leningrad the transfer of hazardous enterprises outside the city was already invented in the 2000s, then in Rome, production fish sauce moved out of the cities. Because it stank. It stank badly. And then the Romans themselves suffered / enjoyed worms without exception ... request
            1. +13
              14 January 2023 08: 54
              Vespasian introduced a fee for the use of public toilets.
              To be fair, the main burden of the tax fell not on visitors, but on dye-laundries that used liquid human waste products. lol Yes, and not the first in this field was Pope Titus - a certain emperor Nero also collected taxes on urine ...
            2. +7
              14 January 2023 09: 25
              If in Leningrad the transfer of hazardous enterprises out of town was already invented in the 2000s,
              Not with us, the money came from the federal budget. But on the sale of vacated space, the same LSR welded on notably.
        2. +7
          14 January 2023 07: 49
          Quote: Pane Kohanku
          No, it's not hanging yet, but I think it should be!

          And why not put his bust on the table? Mini? Facing the visitor? Psychology. No? bully
          1. +13
            14 January 2023 08: 12
            And why not put his bust on the table? Mini? Facing the visitor? Psychology. No?

            The bust should be put up by the director of the water utility, rather. laughing By the way, Vespasian was also classified as a "good emperor". hi Well, you and I in the city center pay in public toilets for pee / poop - as he bequeathed. request
            I report - in Oranienbaum, in the vicinity of the former fortress of Peter the Third, Peterstadt - toilets are in exemplary condition! good
            https://topwar.ru/158768-petershtadt-broshennaja-igrushka-petra-iii.html

            You know, Uncle, but I did something in this article seranul .. recourse In the last paragraphs. I did not check one thing, I wrote it.
            The Nazis did not blow up the "Monument to the 1000th Anniversary of Russia" in Novgorod. They disassembled it. And they didn't get it out. request
            There, they rush about, set fire to it .. In the center - St. Sophia, there were only three such cathedrals - in Kyiv, Novgorod, Polotsk. The figures from the monument, as if dead, are scattered. "Cultural nation", give them to all Arabs for "everything good." Kukryniksy painted.


            The Germans did not have time to escape from Novgorod .. West of the city, their group was surrounded and defeated. Serves right. soldier
            1. +10
              14 January 2023 09: 37
              Quote: Pane Kohanku
              By the way, Vespasian was also classified as a "good emperor"

              They said about him that he was the only emperor whom the authorities did not spoil, but made better. Titus also had all the makings of a great ruler, but he died early and Domitian came to power...
              Flavian family, how your third heir dishonored you!
              Because of him, it would be better not to be the first two.
            2. +8
              14 January 2023 11: 22
              Quote: Pane Kohanku
              uh, and you and I in the city center pay in public toilets for pee / poop - as he bequeathed.

              Good afternoon Nikolai,
              I don’t know how it is in the center, but in our Moscow region, public toilets have recently become free again! hi
              1. +7
                14 January 2023 18: 52
                Quote: Mihaylov
                Quote: Pane Kohanku
                uh, and you and I in the city center pay in public toilets for pee / poop - as he bequeathed.

                Good afternoon Nikolai,
                I don’t know how it is in the center, but in our Moscow region, public toilets have recently become free again! hi

                A little more about “public places”, I don’t know during the reign of which emperor, or even in the era of the republic, Roman citizens had to decorate the corners of their dwellings with drawings or frescoes of the gods so that passers-by would not cope with a small need fearing punishment! laughing
                1. +5
                  14 January 2023 20: 07
                  Quote: Kote pane Kohanka
                  A little more about “public places”, I don’t know during the reign of which emperor, or even in the era of the republic, Roman citizens had to decorate the corners of their dwellings with drawings or frescoes of the gods so that passers-by would not cope with a small need fearing punishment!

                  It looks like they have a thousand-year tradition:
                  - I would not like to look unfair to the people of these places where I have been living for the last years, but nevertheless, in my opinion, the lack of innate dignity among Italians is most striking in the fact that only the sight of some idol can keep them from sin, usually bearing the name of a saint. They are more afraid of St. Sebastian and St. Anthony than they are of Christ. When it is required that all and sundry stop urinating on a certain place, as is customary among Italians - and they differ little from males in this sense - they paint St. Anthony with a wooden stick, and this spectacle pacifies anyone who was attached urinate
            3. +7
              14 January 2023 11: 23
              Quote: Pane Kohanku
              The Nazis did not blow up the "Monument to the 1000th Anniversary of Russia" in Novgorod. They disassembled it. And they didn't get it out.

              EMNIP there, the Spaniards also kissed - "Blue Division" hi
              1. +5
                14 January 2023 18: 17
                EMNIP there, the Spaniards also kissed - "Blue Division"

                Sergey, hello! I don't know about Novgorod and the Blue Division. But the division fought in the northwest (against the Volkhov Front), and in 1942 took part in the battles against the Second Shock Army.
                In one of the few narrow-gauge railway museums in Pereslavl-Zalessky, there is a unique specimen. This is a pre-war light armored car FAI-M. His body in the 90s was found near Novgorod, lying on its side. Here it is restored. Write - almost on the go!


                Here is the itinerary for you and your wife for this year! Pereslavl-Yaroslavl! drinks Yes, my wife - a huge hello! love
                1. +5
                  14 January 2023 19: 30
                  Quote: Pane Kohanku
                  But the division fought in the northwest (against the Volkhov Front), and in 1942 took part in the battles against the Second Shock Army.

                  Once we were in Mallorca and there is a military museum, which I considered it a must to visit. I’m walking along it and suddenly, out of the corner of my eye, I snatch out a familiar word - Leningrad: it turned out to be a stent dedicated to the "Blue Division", apparently they are proud:


                  1. +5
                    14 January 2023 19: 59
                    ... it turned out to be a stand dedicated to the "Blue Division", apparently proud of:


                    It would be than... laughing

                    1. +5
                      14 January 2023 20: 09
                      Quote: Sea Cat
                      It would be than...

                      As far as I remember, everything ended rather sadly for them ... hi
                      1. +4
                        14 January 2023 20: 42
                        It wasn't all that easy.
                        The Blue Division is the only Spanish formation in the Wehrmacht. Its fighters wore blue tunics and were distinguished by their unpredictable character. They remained in the memory of the inhabitants of the Leningrad region as "hooligans" who stole more from the Germans than from the Russians, and made "Katyusha" their unofficial march. The Blue Division was the only one to swear allegiance not to Hitler, but to the idea of ​​fighting communism. Seeing their destiny in this, thousands of Francoists trained and hardened in the battles of the Civil War voluntarily went to the front of the Second World War with the mission of "saving Europe."
                        Thus, Franco killed two birds with one stone: he got rid of the most ardent Falangists and repaid his friend Hitler for the Condor Legion.

                        General Emilio Esteban-Infantes, who commanded the Blue Division, in his book The Blue Division. Volunteers on the Eastern Front" gives the following figures for the losses of the division: 14 thousand - on the Volkhov front and 32 thousand - on the Leningrad (winter - spring 1943) [13]. In Karl Hofker's documentary "Blue Division Azul. The history of the Spanish volunteers" provides the following data on the total losses of the Spanish volunteers on the Eastern Front "out of 47000 people, the total losses amounted to 3600 dead, in addition 8500 wounded, 7800 sick with various diseases, also 1600 people received frostbite and 321 people were captured" [14 ].

                        On November 3, 1943, the Spanish government already ordered its citizens to return to the country. Even after that, about 2 Spaniards remained on the Eastern Front, mostly Falangists, of whom the volunteer "Blue Legion" was formed under German command. Later, its number increased to 3 thousand people due to volunteers crossing the Spanish border in the area of ​​the French city of Lourdes. After Franco began negotiations with the countries of the anti-Hitler coalition, most of the Blue Legion soldiers were repatriated by the Germans on March 21, 1944[12]. The few hundred remaining Spaniards joined the Waffen-SS and fought until the very end of the war. In encircled Berlin, 7 Spaniards fought before the surrender[2].


                        A caricature of the Spaniards on themselves, on their own thievery.
                    2. 0
                      16 January 2023 19: 51
                      It would be than...

                      In general, Uncle Kostya, you are absolutely right ... If there is nothing more to be proud of, you will be proud of degenerates. No, I don't respect them, no matter how cynical. They provided the Siege of Leningrad in the outer ring ... angry
            4. +7
              14 January 2023 13: 44
              The bust should be erected by the director of the water utility,


              That's right, it's better not to keep busts and sculptures in your house, they will suddenly start hanging around the whole apartment, remember. "Doomed City", "The Bronze Horseman" and "Venus of Ill" - but there will be nothing but trouble. laughing


              Good afternoon, Nikolai! smile drinks
              1. +6
                14 January 2023 14: 07
                Good afternoon, Nikolai!

                For now, I'm for it. wassat )))
                By the way, if we are talking about the water utility, then in Rome there were 11 water pipes, of which 2 are still working.
                Roman civilization was far ahead of the rest of Europe.
                1. +3
                  14 January 2023 14: 14
                  if about the water utility,
                  Here, water disposal is more important than water supply. Cloaca maxima.
                  1. +5
                    14 January 2023 14: 42
                    water disposal is more important than water supply.


                    Without water supply there will be no water separation, there will be nothing to separate. laughing "The water cycle in nature", in other words: "And without water, neither there nor here" (c) request

                2. +4
                  14 January 2023 14: 46
                  For now, I'm for it.


                  Whoa, Luda? love You answered my post, but it's still very nice. smile

                  1. +6
                    14 January 2023 15: 53
                    Whoa, Luda?

                    Yes, for Nicholas! wassat ))))

                    You answered my post, but it's still very nice.


                    But I thought about this for a long time, stubbornly and persistently, not wanting to admit the truth ...
                    crying belay sad wassat good drinks )))))
                    1. +6
                      14 January 2023 16: 41
                      Quote: depressant
                      Yes, for Nicholas!

                      And on Petrovsky (now Senate) Square they shout for Konstantin! laughing
                      1. +6
                        14 January 2023 17: 17
                        Although not personally for me, but still nice. smile drinks

                      2. 0
                        16 January 2023 19: 52
                        Although not personally for me, but still nice.

                        Yes, for you, for you! laughing Then for Nicholas, then for Trilobite, ugh, Michael! wassat drinks Friendly caricature for all of us! drinks
                      3. +4
                        14 January 2023 18: 18
                        And on Petrovsky (now Senate) Square they shout for Konstantin!

                        And they even shot at Mikhail and Nikolai!
                      4. +4
                        14 January 2023 19: 54
                        " -- What happened?
                        "Jackson shot at Sundukov!"
                        - Got it?
                        - No, I missed it. request "(with)

                        And these too ... arrows are awful. laughing
                      5. +4
                        14 January 2023 20: 13
                        Quote: Sea Cat
                        No, I missed

                        Miloradovich and Stürler were not so lucky...
                        The arrows from the rebels were better than the commanders.
                      6. +3
                        14 January 2023 20: 54
                        With the death of Miloradovich there is a muddy story, in addition to a bullet wound of "moderate severity", he also had a stab wound to the abdomen. So the devil knows who is there and what he did better. And the general is sincerely sorry.
                      7. +1
                        16 January 2023 19: 57
                        He also had a stab wound in his abdomen.

                        This is from Obolensky. Who then, in a hurry, on Senatskaya, was chosen as the "second dictator" instead of the meatball Trubetskoy, who stood nearby cowardly, and did not appear.
                        Obolensky was one of those who survived hard labor, exile, was pardoned, and died in Kaluga.
                        With the death of Miloradovich there is a muddy story

                        Muddy is the role of Miloradovich himself before the uprising on the Senate ... what
                    2. +3
                      14 January 2023 16: 46
                      , not wanting to admit the truth ...


                      Modesty adorns a person ... smile love
              2. +4
                14 January 2023 18: 55
                That's right, it's better not to keep busts and sculptures in your house, they will suddenly start hanging around the whole apartment, remember. "Doomed City", "The Bronze Horseman" and "Venus of Ill" - but there will be nothing but trouble. laughing

                You can go further and not keep strong drinks at home, then the risk even with a green devil and a white squirrel will disappear in principle !!! drinks
                1. +2
                  14 January 2023 21: 01
                  You can go further


                  Better not, comrades won't understand... request

        3. +6
          14 January 2023 09: 16
          Start your own forum, and at the same time the Palatine Palace. And all the statues will not be cramped.
  2. +13
    14 January 2023 06: 42
    I remember films in the Soviet box office, "Ducky" and "Column"!
    So that's where the "Romanians" came from, they have at least some reason, not like the "Sumers".
    On submarines "Romanians" they call torpedoists, I wonder why !?
    1. +9
      14 January 2023 07: 01
      Quote: andrewkor
      On submarines "Romanians" they call torpedoists, I wonder why !?

      *Potemkin* is to blame. As you know, the representatives of the warhead-3 offered *to steal* the battleship to Romania. Since then, it has gone. bully This is one of the versions. I admit that there are others.
      Good morning and good day everyone!
      1. +5
        14 January 2023 07: 38
        .As you know, the representatives of the BCH-3 offered * to steal * the battleship to Romania. Since then, it has gone.

        And it was the torpedoists who stole him to the mamalyzhniks? belay
        Good morning and good day everyone!

        Good day to you, Uncle! Take care! drinks

        1. +5
          14 January 2023 07: 44
          Quote: Pane Kohanku
          And it was the torpedoists who stole him to the mamalyzhniks?

          They acted as initiators and led a criminal conspiracy. bully
      2. +5
        14 January 2023 14: 17
        Good morning and good day everyone!

        Utorm read the article, comments, got carried away and did not notice how the day had come! laughing
        Good day to you, Sergey Vladimirovich! )))
        As Pythagoras said, the great science of living happily is to live only in the present.
        1. +4
          14 January 2023 15: 59
          Quote: depressant
          As Pythagoras said, the great science of living happily is to live only in the present.

          And as a certain Menander, an ancient Greek, poet and playwright, wrote: * Time is the best healer of all inevitable evils .... *. So, I'm already in order.
          Good day dear Lyudmila Yakovlevna!
          1. +4
            14 January 2023 17: 01
            *Time is the best healer of all inevitable evils....*

            Glad to see you, dear Sergei Vladimirovich!
            The river of time takes away everything, and only fragments of difficult memories are sometimes found on the oncoming islands. love )))
            But the current carries us further and further.
    2. +12
      14 January 2023 07: 03
      "Ducky"

      I remember him as a teenager. Good film. drinks "Column" did not look, I confess ...
      On submarines "Romanians" they call torpedoists, I wonder why !?

      I don't know, you have to ask the submariners. And we should be grateful to the Romanians for the "logan" - a good working machine. Although her suspension is still killable. I speak as a loganovod from 2009 to 2013. Yes
      1. +7
        14 January 2023 07: 10
        Quote: Pane Kohanku
        "Ducky"

        This is where the folk fun of the Dacians was shown? laughing Poke a knife between the fingers? And then in one of the * Aliens * "remake"? laughing
        1. VLR
          +12
          14 January 2023 07: 29
          "Dacians" is a beautiful costume film, it looks good, but instead of Trajan there is Domitian, already killed long ago! Such a weird bug. Perhaps it just seemed inconvenient that the negative hero - the conqueror and colonizer - is the "good" Trajan?
          1. +8
            14 January 2023 07: 42
            Quote: VlR
            Ducky" is a beautiful costume film,

            I watched it back in the early seventies. I remember that * Pierre Beers starred there * Vinnet of all times *.
            1. +12
              14 January 2023 08: 28
              Fall of Rome, also not a bad movie .. It seems that's what it was called ..
            2. +6
              14 January 2023 16: 08
              Quote: ArchiPhil
              Beers

              Wow! I read it and was amazed! Well, of course, Bris! bully
          2. +16
            14 January 2023 08: 32
            "good" Trajan
            Excuse me, but why in quotation marks? Being a citizen of Rome, I would be for this
            in 106, all taxes were abolished, and every Roman citizen received an amount twice the annual salary of a legionnaire. The distribution of wine and butter was added to the free distribution of bread.
            proclaimed on the forum Mark Ulpius Nerva Trajan good and without any quotes smile
          3. +7
            14 January 2023 09: 44
            Maybe in order not to increase the timing excessively?
          4. +10
            14 January 2023 09: 44
            "Dacians" is a beautiful costume film, it looks good, but instead of Trajan there is Domitian, already killed long ago! Such a weird bug.

            Sailed ...
            The film is dedicated to just the unsuccessful war of Domitian with the Dacians. Even the years can be identified very accurately 85-86 AD. The arrival of the emperor with Fusk on the Danube, the initial success, defeat and death of Fusk (in the film it is spaced into two episodes for plot reasons). Everyone would like such a chronological outline.
      2. +15
        14 January 2023 08: 36
        I remember him as a teenager. Good film
        I also watched .. The whole class "cheered" for the Dacians against the Romans, but, despite all the ardent support of the broad pioneer masses, the Romans won every time (and went to the film more than once) .. Disappointment and indignation knew no bounds!
        1. +12
          14 January 2023 09: 22
          Quote: not the one
          the ardent support of the broad pioneer masses by the Romans every time (and they went to the film more than once)

          The support of the masses of students in general is a terrible force! bully And? *The magical power of art.* laughing

          * And also hand over the pea shooter? * (c)
          1. +8
            14 January 2023 09: 39
            “- They sent the boy again when I need a tamer”
          2. +6
            14 January 2023 12: 22
            Hello Seryozha! smile
            I immediately remembered "The Man from the Boulevard des Capucines", where adult guys fired at the screen from everything that was at hand. laughing
          3. +10
            14 January 2023 14: 26
            And? *The magical power of art.* laughing

            I'm trying to be in the Roman theme here. So, about the "magic power of art."
            It has been argued that "the Romans of the Republic were much less sensitive than the Greeks, and most of them would gladly dismiss music as a waste of time.
            For a freeborn Roman, playing a musical instrument or singing was considered unworthy, but they were willing to tolerate the performances of slaves or professionals in small doses.
        2. +7
          14 January 2023 09: 47
          Strangely, in the film "Dacians" it was the Romans under the command of Fusk who lost. And the last shots unequivocally hint that this army of theirs (the protagonist who died in a duel) is doomed.
          1. +13
            14 January 2023 11: 52
            Yes, but the knowledge gained in the history lesson said that it was precisely "our" ducks that lost in that war, which is why the indignation was so strong: "How is it, damn it, ours take over the whole film, but in the end victory will go to the damned imperialists from Rome. They also crucified our Spartacus at another session, #fascistsgadysvolochi ..." How difficult it became to communicate without a bell ... sorry for not answering right away ...
      3. +7
        14 January 2023 19: 50
        Nevertheless, the Romanians only made details for her. The project itself was developed by the French (and computers - at that time there was the largest percentage of computer design in the world). There was an ambitious task to create a full-fledged sedan at a price of 5000 euros. Moreover, they immediately focused on the markets of developing countries with a difficult climate and bad roads. By the way, "Renault" he was only with us and in India. In Europe, up to Ukraine, he was "Dacia", and in South America, even "Nissan".
  3. +13
    14 January 2023 07: 45
    Gibbon, speaking of "good emperors", as is usually the case in the West, forgot to specify for whom exactly they were good. For neighbors, at the expense of which the "banquet was arranged" is unlikely laughing
    But this is understandable, he considered himself the heir of the proud and cultured Romans, and not some wild Dacians or, God forbid, Asian Parthians.
    1. +4
      14 January 2023 19: 52
      The neighbors were there too. If you don't hit them with a gladius on the dome, they'll give a shit about you in terme.
  4. +6
    14 January 2023 07: 56
    The Age of the Five Good Emperors
    Fantastic Five and Goalkeeper (Legions)
    1. +5
      14 January 2023 09: 21
      More than a numerous goalkeeper. On the other hand, the Golden Cockerel has not yet been created. However, maybe Alexander Sergeevich had predecessors.
  5. +9
    14 January 2023 08: 02
    Remember also - "Troyan's centuries"? What is this - a vague memory of clashes with the Roman legions? Or Trajan in this case - a pagan god? That is, it is necessary to read "there were pagan times"?
  6. +5
    14 January 2023 09: 04
    In the history of Ancient Rome there are 84 years (from 96 to 180), which are often called the “happy century”, the “golden age”

    But what about the Marcomannic wars? The invasion of the Germans and Sarmatians into the territory of Italy with its subsequent plunder? The death of the Roman legions in the East and North of Italy? Any epidemics?
    1. VLR
      +8
      14 January 2023 09: 15
      This will be discussed. But "everything is known in comparison" - before these five and after them it was even worse. Remember the poem by A. Akhmatova?
      We thought: we are poor, we have nothing,
      And how they began to lose one after another,
      So what happened every day
      memorial day -
      Started making songs
      About the great bounty of God
      Yes, about our former wealth.
      1. +5
        14 January 2023 09: 46
        Yes. Really like. A guide to world history.

        There is also an old woman who prayed for the tyrant. Because every next one was worse.
        1. +5
          14 January 2023 12: 29
          There is also an old woman who prayed for the tyrant.


          The old woman was smart, she saw to the root. smile True, sometimes the Trajans come, but for some reason always not in our lifetime. request
          1. +6
            14 January 2023 12: 35
            On our more and more Trojan horses are coming.
            1. +6
              14 January 2023 12: 47
              On our more and more Trojan horses are coming.

              In addition, also with obscene crews. wassat

          2. +4
            14 January 2023 15: 37
            When you live for a long time, you can come to certain conclusions.
            1. +5
              14 January 2023 17: 28
              In any case, they are disappointing. request

              1. +4
                14 January 2023 19: 27
                Disappointing conclusions
                Come to mind in autumn
                Disappointing conclusions
                Come to mind for winter.
                And the forest is transparent, as if washed,
                And in the bright field winters are dozing,
                And the lights are embroidered along the edge,
                And the night comes in silence.
                1. +4
                  14 January 2023 20: 05
                  The quiet road sparkles
                  Lost in sleepy distance.
                  Above the blue stack top
                  Moon in January rim.
                  The forests are silent. The bird doesn't cry.
                  In the grass, at the edge of the furrow,
                  The red fox lurks
                  Hare tracks darken.
      2. +6
        14 January 2023 11: 07
        Topical, unfortunately, is Akhmatova's poem. A year ago, everyone whined that they were living poorly. And now the European energy markets have been lost, gas pipelines have been blown up, gold and foreign exchange reserves have been stolen, half the world is closed, Russophobia is going through the roof, stability and the ability to plan at least 3 months in advance have been lost, big sport has been virtually destroyed, Russian championships have turned into useless brawls, young men are dying and civilians of the Russian regions neighboring Ukraine, almost a million people stupidly fled the country ... But, if you look at some comments in Novosti and Opinions - "everything is fine" and "is going according to a wise plan."
        1. +7
          14 January 2023 17: 20
          Alexei... wassat )))
          The people are gray, but wise. To a large extent, the legislative clamp contributes to both. And ... it has long been known that the change of one owner, straddling your neck, to another, can be even more stressful for the spine.
          Everyone understands everything.
          Let's live while we live drinks )))
          1. 0
            15 January 2023 19: 44
            How not to live up to "... when they came for me, there was no one to say a word for me ..."
        2. +3
          14 January 2023 19: 57
          God, I thought I was the only one noticing this.
          1. +5
            14 January 2023 22: 23
            Yaroslav, you’re unlikely to read it, but I can’t resist:

            "I know how to save Russia,
            but where to put the bodies?" (c)
            wassat )))
  7. +8
    14 January 2023 09: 54
    about 165 tons of gold and up to 331 tons of silver were delivered to Rome.
    It became interesting, where did all this mass of precious metals subsequently go? Well, just physically...
    1. +8
      14 January 2023 09: 58
      Have you minted coins? And jewelry?

      And women will always find how to dispose of them.

      Approximately with this phrase, our musical film "Mary Poppins" begins.
      1. +6
        14 January 2023 10: 05
        The fact is that Medieval Europe throughout the era experienced an acute shortage of precious metals. France scraped together 12 tons of gold with difficulty in the middle of the XNUMXth century. The bill system and conditional payment units did not appear from a good life.
        1. +7
          14 January 2023 10: 07
          Looted and buried?

          What is gold doing in the fire?
          And the history of any large city is the history of fires.
          1. +5
            14 January 2023 10: 23
            Not that reason. Extinguished, dug up, put into circulation. I can understand when a metal goes out of circulation as a result of drowning, as, for example, in the case of the Edinburgh (and even then it was raised later), but to dissolve like this in the time stream?...
            1. +8
              14 January 2023 10: 35
              The world is bigger than Rome. Everything dissolves in space and time.

              How was Demidov advised to dispose of counterfeit coins? Trade with the Bashkirs. They will bury them, and for a long time they will not remember. Unless, of course, you believe Fedorov's "Stone Belt".
              1. +8
                14 January 2023 13: 15
                Trade with the Bashkirs. They will bury them, and for a long time they will not remember.


                So Pinocchio was a Bashkir?! laughing I wonder who was the cat Basilio and the fox Alice?

                1. +7
                  14 January 2023 15: 35
                  Pinocchio's neighbors? And Alice, as we all remember, is generally a guest from the future.
                  1. +7
                    14 January 2023 16: 02
                    Well, Basilio was known for not letting the hungover Alice sleep in the morning, and she woke up with the words - "Vasily, don't stomp!" smile
                    But still, they lived together.

                    1. +5
                      14 January 2023 16: 23
                      Returning to the concerns of Anton. Now the path of these five gold coins can no longer be traced. You never know taverns along the way comes across.

                      The picture is helpful. Grandfather Mazai would approve.
                      1. +5
                        14 January 2023 16: 44
                        Here, in my opinion, the well-known slogan is more suitable: "The work of saving the drowning is the work of the drowning themselves."
                        But not everyone has their own Pinocchio. laughing
                      2. +6
                        14 January 2023 17: 44
                        They are neither sown nor reaped. They start up on their own.
                      3. +5
                        14 January 2023 18: 20
                        They are neither sown nor reaped.


                        We were neither sown nor reaped anywhere
                        The grain growers did not respect us
                        We sow ourselves everywhere
                        So that lazy people, rotozeans,
                        The fields are left with rubbish

                        We are handsome and tall
                        Brave Weed Guys
                        We'll flatten the oats, the wheat
                        We will destroy the corn
                        There will be dust in the fields
                        Ha-ha...


                      4. +5
                        14 January 2023 18: 37
                        Poor and poor fellows
                        Despising the life of a servant,
                        And homeless vagabonds
                        Who has only debts -
                        All who are driven, restless,
                        They run into this free forest,
                        Because the owner is here
                        Good boy Robin Hood!
                      5. +5
                        14 January 2023 19: 48
                        We are one-bo-bo-bo-bo-bo-bo-boys,
                        Robbers, robbers
                        Bang bang, and you are dead,
                        The dead, the dead
                        Bang bang, and you are dead,
                        The dead, the dead.
                      6. +4
                        14 January 2023 20: 39
                        Such beauties only give
                        Marquis, princes, kings,
                        They do not jump on them, but fly,
                        We never dreamed of such
                        We can't afford these
                        Look at them or don't look.
                        Give the horse to the ataman
                        Listen, give
                        Give the horse to the ataman
                        Listen, donate.
                      7. 0
                        16 January 2023 20: 04
                        Such beauties only give
                        Marquis, princes, kings

                        This is the best role of the wonderful artist Alexander Denisov, who played heroic sailors from Little Russia for most of his life. At least three films. soldier
                        But, although he does not sing himself, he performed the image above all praise! good

                      8. +8
                        14 January 2023 16: 48
                        Here is the path of these five gold coins can no longer be traced
                        How can you not follow this? Yakubovich dug them up! And Pinocchio, remaining illiterate, as a result of the sale of the alphabet, could not guess the letters ...
                      9. +8
                        14 January 2023 17: 39
                        Pinocchio, remaining illiterate, as a result of the sale of the alphabet, could not guess the letters ...

                        However, not every Pinocchio is a stupid log. wink

                      10. +5
                        14 January 2023 17: 44
                        How about "call a friend"? The ability to make friends is worth something in this life.

                        Rather, it would be worth clarifying what kind of treasures are in Fort Bayard? Who is there about Charlemagne and his feasts remembered?
    2. +7
      14 January 2023 10: 55
      Quote: 3x3zsave
      It became interesting, where did all this mass of precious metals subsequently go?

      Ost- and Visigoths, Heruli and Vandals, Burgundians and Lombards, Alans and Sarmatians, Byzantines and Franks. Then Charlemagne, then a great many kingdoms and duchies, the name of which even history no longer remembers! And each took a small piece and wrapped it in his skin. Then there were the Vikings, who pretty much robbed the monasteries, then the Arabs came to the Pyrenees and robbed the Goths with the Suebi and Alans. And so on...

      PS About the movement of gold from America to Europe, and then back to America, it is well written by Marx. The same thing happened here, only a thousand years earlier ...
      1. +6
        14 January 2023 11: 21
        the Byzantines
        Perhaps this is the only rational explanation. Transfer of the center of economic activity and "washing out" of precious metals in an easterly direction.
  8. +13
    14 January 2023 10: 45
    Great topic! All emperors were good. On my desktop, I keep a bust of Marcus Aurelius, printed on a 3D printer. drinks
    1. +7
      14 January 2023 18: 22
      On my desktop, I keep a bust of Marcus Aurelius, printed on a 3D printer.

      Michael, print me Vespasian and Pal Petrovich. good Money - to your card, forwarding by CDEK, I'm crying. drinks
      1. +3
        14 January 2023 22: 41
        Sir, alas. I ordered through ebay, from this American enthusiast, in the fall of 2021. With a personal autograph on the check, the purchase came, and his wife packed it. So to say to a distant northern barbarian from sunny California lol
        Dig around, maybe you will find Vespasian, though I don’t know how it is now with delivery. hi
        https://facesofhistory.com/products/marcus-aurelius-miscellaneous-sculpture-bust-on-pedestal?_pos=2&_sid=fa1c11c94&_ss=r
        1. +1
          16 January 2023 20: 00
          Dig around, maybe you will find Vespasian, though I don’t know how it is now with delivery.

          Well, good! Thank you Michael! drinks
  9. +10
    14 January 2023 10: 53
    I wish you all a good day.
    Valery, I miss your work.
    With great pleasure, we would chat, but we need to "plow" the latest equipment was brought to the clinic: America, Taiwan, and we, the girls, will install it. True 3 guys, students.
    Honestly, through the ass all.
    4 years ago, on the 15th, the technicians were assembled, but instead of 15 days, 2 months. People mothered: staff and VV.
    Our chief and decided to use his
    1. +5
      14 January 2023 15: 44
      the latest equipment was brought to the clinic: America, Taiwan,


      Fine! What about sanctions on the side? belay

      Good afternoon, Katya! love
      1. +7
        14 January 2023 16: 04
        Quote: Sea Cat
        ! What about sanctions on the side?

        Everything through Kazakhstan! Gray scheme. Normal. True, there are big doubts that the nurses will install and connect the most complex medical equipment correctly. The head physician seems to be .... one of the optimists. laughing
        Hello my friend!
        1. +6
          14 January 2023 16: 59
          Good evening, Seryozha. smile

          there are big doubts that the nurses will install and connect the most complex medical equipment correctly.


          So there are so many patients that it is not difficult to find a specialist at all. Just click. laughing

          1. +4
            14 January 2023 20: 56
            Uncle Kostya, volunteers from the Polytechnic University are helping us
        2. +4
          14 January 2023 21: 30
          My moderator, I don’t want to offend the Jews, but the main cunning one is like two railways.
          Before us, he pushed such a heartfelt speech: helping the front, a matter of state importance. We even sobbed.
          The manager is a good doctor, she was respected by the sick staff, she said harshly: no political or ethnic conflicts, she will purposely put the antagonists together. Who will start political propaganda or ethnic disputes: an article and a "wolf ticket"
          Promises 1,5 rates for those who work on the installation
          Of course, it’s interesting there, but I can’t stand the road for a long time (I have 3 transfers), the girls are alone: ​​6,7 years old, my “daughter” and Masha are 10 years old.
          We can not decide: who is she to me? From Kharkov, fled to Western Europe, but got lost and nailed to the "little one". The girls and I wrote such a biography for her that we ourselves cry, "little" teaches her that I am her mother
          1. +2
            14 January 2023 23: 10
            Quote: Astra wild2
            Jews, but the main cunning as two trains and a.

            It is somewhat chaotically written, but in general? * payment and made the necessary adjustments. We will do everything by local forces! Well, you know, he is not the first and he is not the last. The question is different. How long will this equipment last after such * installation *? And will it work at all? bully
  10. +8
    14 January 2023 12: 05
    Nerv turned out to be just some sort of socialist. Like Lenin, sick, not for long, but he turned a lot.
    He laid the foundations for this unique experiment of age-old meritocracy. By the way, our USSR experiment lasted only 35 years, until Stalin's death, although Stalin also had an adopted one ... But it did not work out.
    Trayan is great, no doubt, the name Trayan (Troyan) is still in use in Romania and Moldova.
    But the golden age is still Antoninus Pius, this is some kind of Brezhnev, only longer, longer and longer.
    1. +6
      14 January 2023 15: 41
      still in Romania and Moldova, the name Trayan (Troyan) is in use.


      I knew in my youth and this Jew by the name of Troyanker, a Zionist and a womanizer was terrible. laughing
  11. +9
    14 January 2023 16: 23
    I saw the Trojan Wall on the border of Moldova and Ukraine, the maximum point of the advancement of the Roman Empire in our direction. In general, in the 1st-2nd century, the climate was very favorable; in the 2nd century, this manifested itself in full, and these emperors were simply very lucky.
  12. +2
    14 January 2023 19: 04
    Quote: Sea Cat
    still in Romania and Moldova, the name Trayan (Troyan) is in use.


    I knew in my youth and this Jew by the name of Troyanker, a Zionist and a womanizer was terrible. laughing

    It was he who redid it in the registry office, in fact, apparently, Troyancher.
    1. +3
      14 January 2023 20: 29
      Can you giggle? wassat )))

      But why not Troyanman?
      And let me sigh - how the bell is missing! It's time to shout: "Awww!"
      1. +3
        14 January 2023 20: 40
        If you shout, they will definitely respond, Lyudmila Yakovlevna.
        1. +3
          14 January 2023 21: 27
          But without the bell...
          More often than not, it's possible:
          "No matter how the old man threw his net,
          but never got into the sea ... "(c)
          1. +3
            14 January 2023 21: 32
            Let the marine inhabitants swim in peace. They have a hard time as it is.
            1. +3
              14 January 2023 22: 34
              Still would!
              "Gave a starving fish,
              and he took the spinning!" (c)
              Given the number of starving marine inhabitants, everything is more restless. For as long as I can remember, Africa, for example, has been starving so much. Interestingly, during the mentioned period of Roman history, the danger to marine life emanating from Africa was higher or lower?
              1. +2
                14 January 2023 22: 49
                Below. Less people means less work. Somali pirates did not drop anything into the water.
      2. +3
        14 January 2023 21: 27
        Quote: depressant
        It's time to shout: "Awww!"

        It is enough to develop extrasensory abilities in yourself. Aha! So I wrote a post and now they will answer me! laughing Although with a bell, of course, it is more convenient. bully
        1. +4
          14 January 2023 22: 23
          - Sasha! So you are a telepath! Wolf Messing!
          - You think?
          - Exactly! And let's try...
        2. +3
          14 January 2023 22: 39
          I will answer)))
          There is a portrait of a man covering himself with his hands above. A pose of denial, unwillingness to reveal their true thoughts ... But I mean that I have already seen this tragic face more than once. Who is this man, huh?!?
  13. +3
    14 January 2023 20: 34
    Valery, colleagues, good evening. I just got off work an hour ago.
    We built a branch of the clinic, but getting there ... It’s easier to find the truth in the Kremlin than to get there. Kvitka has a new smartphone, she remembers English a little, I already have an old phone, English and German, I practically don’t know, but the little one knows: German, Estonian (Estonian), b m English and the manager chatted me up to help her friends. I’ve had enough, but the little one stayed overnight with the girls. We decided to sleep there to set everything up faster.
    The head, promises to register her in the Computing Center
    .
  14. +4
    15 January 2023 00: 50
    Sea Cat (Konstantin), dear, in February 1943, according to many historians, it was the stamina of the Spaniards in defense that did not allow our 55th army to leave Krasnoe Selo to Tosno. And they didn’t have tanks, and our guns were inferior to ours, but we didn’t succeed in a deep breakthrough ...
    Korsar4 ( Sergey) and you often give wonderful poems to us all. In honor of the coming Old New Year to all comrades on "VO." a little puzzle as a gift. In imitation of Chinese poets, a New Year's song familiar to everyone:
    The green forest revealed that tree in the world,
    What beauty captivated the eye.
    On the amber day, and on the day that the belly froze,
    Jade enchanted us.
    Whitish dew listened to the sound,
    Falling asleep in a gentle lullaby,
    And the snow prince gave him attention,
    Wrapped with muslin ribbon.
    A beauty shines in the palace now,
    She is dressed in silk and gold,
    Not a guest - a precious find.
    She brings happiness to everyone!
    1. +4
      15 January 2023 06: 25
      The important thing is that you see it that way. Every day is unique.
      And how contemporaries sing.

      Every moment has its own reason
      Its bells, its own mark.
      Moments hand out to someone - a shame,
      To whom - infamy, and to whom - immortality.