Ukroboronprom has launched mass production of a new 82 mm mortar mine on the territory of one of the NATO countries

The Ukrainian army received a modernized 82 mm mortar mine, and mass production of the new ammunition has already begun. This was reported by the press service of the Ukrainian state concern "Ukroboronprom".

According to the publication of the concern in the TG channel, Ukroboronprom specialists have improved a standard fragmentation mine for 82 mm mortars, the mass production of ammunition had to be deployed on the territory of another country, since there is simply nowhere to produce it on the territory of Ukraine, and the new production will immediately become a target for Russian missiles . The name of the country is not disclosed, it is emphasized that it is a member of NATO.

It can be assumed that with a high probability this country is the Czech Republic, since Kyiv has repeatedly announced the deployment of weapons production at the enterprises of the Czech defense complex, as well as the creation of jobs for Ukrainian specialists. The Czech Republic also deployed repair of damaged equipment of the Armed Forces of Ukraine.

According to the concern, a new fragmentation mine during an explosion forms 2-2,5 times more fragments than a standard 82-mm caliber mine. Also, the fragments differ in size and shape. The mine is designed to destroy enemy manpower at a distance of up to 4500 meters.

(...) according to the standard, when a standard mine explodes, the number of fragments that should hit the target at a distance of 5 meters should reach 198 units, at a distance of 10 meters - 70 units, and at a distance of 15 meters - 41 units. In the ammunition improved by the specialists of the enterprises of Ukroboronprom, these are 460, 140 and 69 fragments, respectively

- the message of the Ukrainian concern says.

Comments

[voice of reason]

A mortar is always unpleasant. But this organization of production in another country is a dead poultice. It will no longer have a significant impact on the course of hostilities.

[AAK]

Interestingly, can Russian defense enterprises also expand the production of the necessary types of weapons and military equipment abroad?

[Andy_nsk]

Interestingly, can Russian defense enterprises also expand the production of the necessary types of weapons and military equipment abroad?

Did not understand the full depth of your plan? Are we missing our territory? It seems to me that there is a lack of intelligence and character in our country...

[Eule]

Quote from Andy_nsk

Did not understand the full depth of your intention?

The production of weapons in a country where there is no snow, but there is a death penalty for organizing pyramid schemes and pension funds, will be cheaper.

[Shurik70]

And how to deliver?
We have already blown up trains with equipment, but NATO planes have not yet been shot down.
Although they warned that the plane with military cargo is a legitimate target.
A plane stuffed with ammunition should take off beautifully.

[Hagen]

Quote: eule

The production of weapons in a country where there is no snow, but there is a death penalty for organizing pyramid schemes and pension funds, will be cheaper.

It is always more profitable for the state's economy to "twist" money at its enterprises, even with the costs of snow and pyramids, if it is technically and physically possible. In addition, in order to expand the production of weapons on foreign territory, it is necessary to transfer the technologies for the production of these weapons. And this is not at all cheap and not safe. And then, maybe someone will be able to set up production cheaper, but, given the military needs, any third-party manufacturer will certainly strive to make money on the needs of the belligerent. In international relations, altruism is not welcome.

[Peter1First]

Here the humor is double - of course, not Ukraine itself will do this in another country, but another country itself with a developed military-industrial complex / I think that these are "brothers" Bulgarians / and not just for nothing, but for loot, and not for hryvnias, but for the green, and not from Ukraine, but from its masters, the organizers of the war, and Ukraine will only hang debts for this good! But in our place, I would place an additional production of our shells somewhere in Afghanistan - they know how to make pistols of popular brands with files alone, and rivet cartridges for them on canning rolls! -And if they provide them with a couple more lathes, they will fill up with finished products at affordable prices! Amer’s saboteurs definitely won’t go there! :)

[stankow]

In Bulgaria, there are no gestures about a mini of a new type. 82 mm has been and is being produced.

[sgrabik]

There is no need for Russian defense enterprises to expand production abroad, they have absolutely all the possibilities for the production of any types and types of weapons and military equipment on the territory of Russia, their military-industrial complex needs to be developed and strengthened, stop stepping on the old rake, everything you need to do at home country, or has the sanctions not taught anyone anything yet ???

[Bogalex]

Why, tell us, is the organization of the production of mortar ammunition on the territory of another country, which is guaranteed not to be accessible to destruction by our means, and, therefore, ensuring the uninterrupted supply of one of the most sought-after nomenclatures of artillery ammunition - "this is a dead poultice"?
By God, I can’t understand, you, leavened patriots, have an endless supply of hats in your wardrobe, or what?

[Skif]

And again to the Czech Republic, along the trodden path, Boshirov and Petrov will stretch ...

[Alexey Lantukh]

Why not stretch. War is war.

[Mother Theresa]

And again the Czechs make weapons for the Nazis. There is nothing new in this world.

[Dkuznecov]

And again the Czechs make weapons for

I beg your pardon, but for whom else should they do it?
The Czech Republic has never had statehood, these are limitrophes.
Short span from the collapse of Austria-Hungary
before joining the Third Reich - a minor misunderstanding.
The Czechs were unable to create a state
and with great pleasure became part of the Nazi empire.
And they also made weapons for the USSR.

[Mother Theresa]

And you are a very bad person. Not only do you justify the voluntary accomplices of the Nazis. So also put Austria-Hungary, the Third Reich and the USSR more than one board. Just like in the Western training manual it is written.

[Dkuznecov]

Teresa, you are mistaken, which is permissible.
Even though she is an older woman.
I am a good person.
I live lightly, without envy, I tame passions.
I drag like a single father of three boys,
already 22 years old. It is necessary to give everyone a / o.
Then you don't have to worry about dying.
The girl is already married.
By default, I can't be bad.
And limitrophes do not have good will.
They (limitrophs) are like fleas - they jump
from a sick dog to a healthier one
at the first opportunity.
That’s my whole story.

[Mother Theresa]

Firstly. The beaver is kind to the beavers.
Secondly. You are a single father of three sons and suddenly a daughter. The legend needs to be treated more carefully.

[saigon]

Madame, in justification of the Czechs, it is worth saying that after the Wehrmacht soldiers began to lay down their weapons, the Czechs who regularly made weapons for the Wehrmacht suddenly flared up with heroism and hatred for the Germans.
In a word, they began to kill disarmed German soldiers, and the German civilians who were deported to Germany began to be robbed, sometimes taking off their desks and underpants from the Germans. Moreover, this is a fact, and now I’m thinking from whom and what the Czechs will rip off after the collapse of the country of Skakaunia, I’m afraid to even imagine.

[Skif]

Something that reminds me of... Well, when today one, tomorrow another, third. Remembered! This is - well, in short, prostitution. And in Russian, everyone knows. And what do they call these ... dey too.

[Vic Vic]

Here in this unnamed country, these mines will explode with the planned double number of fragments

[Zoldat_A]

Quote from vicvic

It is in this unnamed country that these mines will explode

I remembered the classic

And whoever cheats, we will beat him on the arrogant red face ...

And this "unnamed country" will choke on a dumpling ...
Also me, "open secret". unnamed.

[Arbeiternegast]

Interestingly, more fragments due to the additional fired steel jacket? Or because of another alloy, more fragile, body? What is considered "target hit" for a fragment? I just do not know these subtleties, it's interesting. If there are more fragments, then they will be smaller, or, in the first case, the explosives in the mine are smaller, then the radius of destruction is also smaller. Or is BB more powerful?

[Eule]

Quote: Arbeiternegast

What is considered "target hit" for a fragment?

Fine dust is not capable of injuring anyone, therefore, the number of fragments weighing more than a certain limit is counted.
Previously, fragments weighing 5 grams seemed to be considered, now even 1-gram ones are considered, since they will cause some harm to the open parts of the body, although it is not easy for them to break through the winter form. .

[Alexey Lantukh]

As a former turner, I know that there is no problem turning the body of a mine from a casting. However, during an explosion, the body can split into 2 parts, and into 8, and into 24 or 64. And defeating the enemy if 64 fragments is much more likely than 8 fragments. And in order to have a controlled number of fragments, a certain casting technology is needed in appropriate special, and not simple, forms.

[topol717]

Quote: Alexey Lantukh

However, during an explosion, the body can split into 2 parts, and into 8, and into 24 or 64. And defeating the enemy if 64 fragments is much more likely than 8 fragments. And in order to have a controlled number of fragments, a certain casting technology is needed in appropriate special, and not simple, forms.

Yes, everything is simpler there, roughly speaking, the fragments are glued to a thin body. from above they can close again with a thin case. they try to make a thin case from thin aluminum.

[Storog dvornik]

What kind of crazy information?
An independent state allegedly placed military production on the territory of another state ... This does not happen, either on foreign development capacities, patents, production under license, or their money in investing in military production on foreign territory means de facto loot, developments are Ukrainian, but the legal entity is local ... They will send and take everything away at any moment, like from Gazprom in the EU ...
VO multiplies such fakes from specific enemy sources, mom don’t worry where the Prosecutor’s Office of the Russian Federation is looking ...

[Mavrikiy]

It can be assumed that with a high probability this country is the Czech Republic, since Kyiv has repeatedly announced the deployment of weapons production at the enterprises of the Czech defense complex, as well as creating jobs for Ukrainian specialists. The Czech Republic also deployed repair of damaged equipment of the Armed Forces of Ukraine.

On the one hand, healthy, on the other, additional logistics. Which is again subject to possible strikes. If it is our will, which is not guaranteed.

[Eva Star]

And why has Russia not severed relations with the Czech Republic so far? The Czech Republic helped the German Nazis kill 30 million Russians with their weapons. Now the Czech Republic is helping other Nazis. Break off relations and say that in the event of a big war, the Czech Republic will be in the forefront of destruction. Plus, you can generally consider the Czech Republic as the rear of the front, they not only produce weapons but also repair them. You can raise the level of escalation by simply blowing up a couple of factories.

[topol717]

which should hit the target at a distance of 5 meters, should reach 198 units, at a distance of 10 meters - 70 units, and at a distance of 15 meters - 41 units. In the ammunition improved by the specialists of the enterprises of Ukroboronprom, these are 460, 140 and 69 fragments, respectively

How clever are the Engineers in the Outskirts. We changed the number of fragments, but at the expense of what? charge mass? or reduced the weight of the fragment? Both of these reduce the kinetic energy of the fragment.
Although there may be no upgrades there, but a stupid statement, no one will check anyway.

[alexoff]

There, I suppose, more than tens of millions were cut for this organization of production, but in fact Czech mines began to be painted with yellow paint

[Kerensky]

a new fragmentation mine during an explosion forms 2-2,5 times more fragments than a regular mine of 82-mm caliber.

Dibiloids in bloom!
A fragment must have a mass of 1-2 grams in order to defeat.
We divide the mass of cast iron by 1000, subtract "to the ground and to the sky."

[topol717]

1 gram is not enough. even winter clothes will not break through. 1 penny weighs 1.5 grams. You need at least 2, and preferably 5 grams. well, leave the speed because energy is the speed squared multiplied by the mass and divided by 2.
with a fragment weight = 1 gram, the energy at a distance of 5 meters is only 7 J.
The weapon starts counting when the energy is more than 3 J.

[Peter1First]

However, a mine produces many fragments with different masses, i.e. fragments are smaller, medium and larger. In principle, it is possible to equip a thin-walled body filled with ready-made identical shrapnel - but I think it will be more expensive than playing with the fragility of an iron casting!

[APASUS]

Developing the military-industrial complex of another country is definitely cool

[ratoborets]

Do Ukrainians have money? resources? the opportunity to build a plant in another country in such a short time?
They don't even have money for their own budget, which is 50-75% funded by Western countries, so long as they fight Russia to the last Ukrainian.
So there is no "Ukrainian production". This is a NATO production, financed by NATO and deployed in one of the NATO countries (presumably the Czech Republic).

[Yaroslav the Wise]

Gouge all the railway bridges connecting Ukroreich with other states and let the banderlogs carry these new mines on their hump. You can also destroy the roadway, a couple of kilometers. This is in order if the banderlogs decide to carry mines in trucks. In the absence of money, Ukrainians will repair roads for a long time