On Christmas, Ukrainian schismatics from the OCU, at the suggestion of the Kyiv regime, seized the main temple of the Kiev-Pechersk Lavra

On Thursday, January 5, Minister of Culture of Ukraine Oleksandr Tkachenko announced that the Assumption Cathedral and the Refectory Church in the Kiev-Pechersk Lavra were officially taken away from the use of the Ukrainian Orthodox Church (UOC). The official justified the actions of the Kyiv authorities by the fact that these places of worship were leased to the Ukrainian Orthodox Church in 2016. According to the temporary use agreement, the lease expired on December 31, 2022 and the buildings were returned to the state. The request of representatives of the UOC to extend the lease was rejected.

This morning, the Kiev-Pechersk Lavra was cordoned off by the police and the National Guard of Ukraine. The security forces check the documents of those who want to get to the OCU Christmas service in the main temple of the monastery - the Assumption. At nine in the morning Kyiv time, the self-proclaimed head of the schismatic OCU, Epiphanius, began to celebrate the Christmas liturgy. Details of what is happening in the temple are described by Ukrainian publics.

In fact, the schismatics of the so-called Orthodox Church of Ukraine, with the help of the Kyiv regime, seized the main church of the Kiev-Pechersk Lavra, timed to coincide with one of the most important Christian holidays - Christmas.

The canonical Ukrainian Orthodox Church stated that the schismatics from the OCU intend to seize the entire Kiev-Pechersk Lavra and create their own male monastery on its territory. At the same time, the UOC recalled that, according to Ukrainian legislation, the canonical Church retains the right to use churches.

In fact, the split of the Orthodox world in Ukraine, started by the Western special services, continues and worsens. The West wants to completely tear Ukraine away from its historical roots. And the Kyiv regime itself is doing a lot for this.

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[Romanenko]

As expected, as soon as the owner leaves the house, cockroaches try to seize power in the kitchen.

[iouris]

Having removed the head, they do not cry through the hair.
All Ukraine was captured. And these are not schismatics, but Nazis.

[Sergio_7]

That's right! Only the complete cleansing of the outskirts from the Nazis will be salvation.

[tihonmarine]

Quote: iouris

All Ukraine was captured. And these are not schismatics, but Nazis.

Oh, if only the Nazis were captured.

[Xnumx vis]

Quote: iouris

Having removed the head, they do not cry through the hair.
All Ukraine was captured. And these are not schismatics, but Nazis.

The Nazis are under the vigilant control of the reptilians of the Rothschilds, Soros, Rockefellers and their puppets of Jewish origin Zelensky, Poroshenko and others like them. led by Reptilian Jews

[DenD]

Everything you need to know about the Kyiv authorities. If someone cherished the hope that everything would end only with the laws "on languages ​​and monuments", now catch the expulsion of the church. Poroshenko's case lives on.

[dmi.pris1]

This is simply the result of spinelessness. who planted these characters there

[Alexander Salenko]

Where's the spinelessness? Many have not turned away from the Russian Orthodox Church itself, let’s just say, they go to church on holidays, and then on Easter you can see how many people gather before the procession, and how many remain for the vigil.
If, under the previous patriarch, some kind of work was carried out with the population, remember the same Andrei Kuraev, and other events, then with this, the ROC should simply come to them. No, you shouldn't have to work with parishes, someone does it, and someone hammers a bolt.
A simple example, we stopped by as a family, well, in general, a large crowd, I wanted to show my wife and children the monastery, they immediately ran to us with an offer to conduct a tour, of course for money. I answer that thanks, we are people who read a lot, I just want to show my people how it looks. This cute aunt in the temple began to hiss so that we would not freeze her, well, probably give her money, she would talk differently.
Watch the movie The Disobedient. how a stupid blogger began to work with the masses, what he actually understands. Come there, 5 thousand Kyivans, which is not much for Kyiv, probably could have been defended. And in 2014, a number of Kyiv priests refused to perform the burial service of the Atoshniks, if this is a parishioner, then he is not responsible to you to perform the funeral service for your sins.

[alexey_444]

This is good, there should be persistent people in faith and not prostitutes, time will tell who is a true believer in Ukraine or who doesn’t care where to go for formality. Although faith has long outlived its usefulness, that in Europe, where rainbows mock even at mosques, which in our country, although it has always been like this, in 17 the faith was abolished altogether, a few came out for defense, as in Poland where 99% of Catholics, and prisons are crammed with these "believers".

[Vyacheslav57]

Merry Christmas Orthodox!

alex_444 (alexey)
It's good, in the faith there should be persistent people and not prostitutes

Prostitutes can also be believers, but you don't know from what life they got there.
With great warmth I remember visiting the Kiev-Pechersk Lavra and the underground repositories of the relics of saints of Rus'. You have to take it all back.

[Alexander Salenko]

Few people doubt that it is necessary to pick up, yes, sorry, Happy Holidays, of course. The question is that the people of Kiev did not come to the defense. And the fact that they would be taken away from me had no doubts as soon as Gunpowder began to mess with Thomas.

[Alexander Salenko]

That's right, Alexey, plus. When the compulsory prayer was abolished in the army in WWI, a third immediately stopped attending it. Above, I said that the church also needs to work, because the people as a whole are initially loyal to Orthodoxy, but the attitude that you owe the church is wrong. For example, the apostles did not think so. And when the late Father Smirnov blurts out to a woman on air that she should give all her income to the church, this is the Spas channel, where the leading mouth has already opened, how does this affect the image of the church? How did the same Protestants of various kinds appear? So someone somewhere has failed.

[Amateur]

And what exactly do the priests share? God is one and cannot be divided.
Or real estate?
The Church is the temple of God, and not of the priest who is assigned to it to conduct the sacraments

Why should I kill these heretic Huguenots, whose only crime is that they sing psalms in French, which we sing in Latin"...
(Porthos, A. Dumas)

[1razvgod]

In Egypt, Coptic churches are generally demolished, why don’t they write about them

[flint]

I have never heard about the demolition of Coptic churches in Egypt, where the population of Copts is about 30%. On the contrary, they build a lot.

[Uno]

So what is capture? If I'm renting out an apartment and the lease has expired, can the tenant claim that I've taken over my own apartment?

[Alexander Salenko]

The fact that the lease - razvodilovo. We have 5 laurels, 3 of them in Ukraine, my son's cross, for example, from Pochaev, and, let's say, he is very religious, in fact it is not, he believes but not very religious, but we assumed. Yes, he will not be able to go there even when everything settles down. You read about religious wars, what it results in.

[rocket757]

On Christmas, Ukrainian schismatics from the OCU, at the suggestion of the Kyiv regime, seized the main temple of the Kiev-Pechersk Lavra

. This is the answer to all sorts of "truces" and "gestures of good will."
If we talk logically and objectively... the table was used to face all sorts of "pigeons of the Compromisers, doves of peace", that is, which nested under the domes and the Kremlin.

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Quote: rocket757

This is the answer to all sorts of "truces" and "gestures of good will."
If we talk logically and objectively... the table was used to face all sorts of "pigeons of the Compromisers, doves of peace", that is, which nested under the domes and the Kremlin.

Well, if our elite does not want to listen to the voice of the people, maybe Ukraine will teach them. Although hardly.

[rocket757]

Any elite begins to recall the precedents of the past and think about their future, when such events begin as ... when a "man with a gun" begins to express his doubts, dissatisfaction, at the expense of those who are on top and believe / whether that they do not serve anyone must!!!
There are also those who have frozen brains ... so they most likely have no prospects at all.

[tihonmarine]

In fact, the split of the Orthodox world in Ukraine, started by the Western special services, continues and worsens.

For 1000 years, the temple was Orthodox, even Hitler was not honored to take it away from the Orthodox, and the Jew Zelensky turned it into a schismatic one in one day.
The message of Rabbi Menachem Mendel Schneerson is coming true.

[orionvitt]

Quote: tihonmarine

the Jew Zelensky turned him into a schismatic in one day

To be fair, we must remember that there has already been one split in Russia. The so-called "Nikon reform" in the 1650s. And by the way, it was also initiated from Kyiv. So, the current Russian Orthodox Church of the Moscow Patriarchate can be called canonical, with a big stretch. It turns out that true historical Orthodoxy was preserved only among the Old Believers, who did not cave in and remained true to their faith, right up to the acceptance of martyrdom. The priests of the UOC do not have this. Yes, and Peter the First, the priests "treated" according to the state, but he is allowed, he was still officially "God's anointed". What is not observed at all with Zelensky. History repeats itself. Only when in the form of a tragedy, and when in the form of a farce, then we'll see.

[Pravodel]

Read the story dear, orionvitt (Vitaly). Schism in the Russian Orthodox Church in the XNUMXth century. - really a great grief for our Orthodoxy. But the church reform of the XVII century. this is not a Kiev event. The reform was initiated by Moscow, and the patriarchal throne and Patriarch Nikon were in Moscow.

[orionvitt]

Quote: The Truth

Read the story dear, orionvitt

What do you want. "With the active assistance of Patriarch Nikon in 1654, the historical reunification of "Ukraine" with Russia took place. The lands of Kievan Rus, once torn away by the Polish-Lithuanian magnates, became part of the Muscovite state." . This was one of the catalysts for the split. And the main participants in the turmoil were, first of all, graduates of the Kiev-Mohyla Academy, who poured into Russia after the return of the Russian lands ..

[Alexander Salenko]

And he is not alone, the schism of the Byzantine Church before the baptism of Rus', iconoclasts and iconodules. When, it seemed, the Christian faith was one, there were still no Catholics and Orthodox, everyone was Christian. But why are the Old Believers more correct? The fact that massively committed a mortal sin - suicide?
The fact that Peter turned priests, and iconoclasm from the fact that monasteries frankly snickered in Byzantium in the 8th century, and icons are an excuse, of course. So Peter, in fact, made the ROC a ministry of propaganda, and he also ran into the secrecy of confession. But in fact, this attack is understandable when it comes to state crimes.

[DymOk_v_dYmke]

I'm kind of on the side.
I mean, not a believer.
But when confessional disputes arise, the question arises:
Are terms really that important? Maybe the essence is more important?
Atheists - in fact - "believers otherwise." So what? The essence is one.
Terms, yes, are different. But the essence is the same, there is really nothing to argue about.

[orionvitt]

Quote: Alexander Salenko

The fact that massively committed a mortal sin - suicide?

Suicide is just getting away from life, so to speak, from problems. And to accept death for faith, or for the fatherland, or for the family, has always been considered a worthy deed. Here, whatever one may say, and it doesn’t matter whether you are a believer or not, there are things that do not cause censure, but just the opposite.

[usr01]

hurt in my heart...
"Izzy! and sho??
- what about me? guilty? !! sho around mine! Odessa! Ukraine is being built ......."

[Senior seaman]

remembered for some reason

- And it happens that they were born and baptized, they have not yet seen this.

"Tell us what's going on, son of a dog!" shouted one of the crowd, apparently losing patience.

- Such a time has now begun that the holy churches are no longer ours. - Why not ours?

“Now the Jews have them on lease. If you don’t pay the Jew in advance, then you can’t rule the mass. — What are you talking about?

- And if a rassobachy Jew does not put down the badge with his unclean hand on Holy Passover, then it is impossible to keep Passover holy.

“He’s lying, brothers, it’s impossible for an unclean Jew to put a badge on Easter!”

[Metallurg_2]

All these foreign Orthodox churches are maintained by the State Department. There was no point in running around them.

[Pravodel]

schismatics from the OCU ... captured the main temple of the Kiev-Pechersk Lavra

It's okay, we'll kick the bastards out of Ukraine and return our shrine...

[Fizik13]

What is good about the Roman Empire - it assimilated all religions from the peoples they captured. This is history.
What is good about Russia is that it has assimilated all the religions that the peoples of Russia have.
Why Europe is bad - it does not want to assimilate other peoples and nationalities, BUT mattress covers (Upper, Lower and Biden Chambers) interfere very much with them, just like at the decline of the Roman Empire.

[RoTTor]

not "SVO", but a WAR FOR OUR ORTHODOX FAITH and OUR CULTURE.
Even the previous fascists did not encroach on the Kiev-Pechersk Lavra ...

[sofkar]

Well, that’s how you go out to VO in the evening, and you don’t know what other issue you need to be a specialist in - either on historical theology (or rental relations), because Christmas, or on macroeconomic finance, because China extended for 3 hours working time of your currency exchange.
I do not remember whose definition it is that "a specialist is a person who knows almost everything about a little and a little about almost everything." Theology for me is from the second area (and MEfinance too, although I distinguish the concept of a reserve currency from a settlement currency within the framework of "a little bit in that area").
As an amateur, I want to ask the author of the article, A. Grigoriev, if we avoid the question of strength, "who military could put the patriarch at the liturgy", and rely only on the "theological doctrine" - who has the right under the charter, then the questions are:
- What legal documents should the Local Autocephalous ORTHODOX Church have?
- Onufry, is he a patriarch or not? If so, what document does he have about it?
- Is the UOC an autocephalous church or not? If not autocephalous, then which one?
- Is there a Ukrainian Orthodox Autocephalous Church? If so, what kind of church is it? If not, then in Ukraine there is no Ukrainian Autocephalous ORTHODOX Church at all? (UAGCC - not Orthodox, if anything)

self-proclaimed head of the schismatic OCU Epiphanius

Is he a patriarch or not? If the church he leads has a tomos of the Ecumenical Patriarch of Constantinople (as well as one and a half dozen canonical Orthodox patriarchates around the world), then why is he a schismatic and self-proclaimed?

[cat Rusich]

Let the UOC betray anathema Zelensky and all Ukrainian officials.
Just by silence, the UOC recognizes the legitimacy of the seizure of the temple.

[Storog dvornik]

The sect of some corpse-eaters, took away the feeder from other corpse-eaters ...
No wonder, considering that the main symbol of both of them is a human corpse nailed to the attribute of execution - in Russian to the chopping block, by the way, in the Russian Criminal Code this is called desecration of the body of the deceased ...
Well, okay, who is this UC ...
Why is the symbol not a steel cable for hanging, for example, in which the SS man Krasnov was strangled, or a chopping block with an executioner's ax, or a tub of water for drowning, or a "wall" with bullet holes in the modern sense? The cultists don't know...
The Anglo-Saxons in the 19th century wrote a thick book with tales for them, and came up with a fairy tale about a kind fool who taught an illiterate herd to obey and trust the master and huckster, but so that the Anglo-Saxons would not fly from dissenters, God's chosen people chose a group of Arabs from crooks and traders who were named Jews...
They really felt like that - God's chosen ones, for which they everywhere receive lyuli ...
By the way, Jews are not corpse-eaters, because it is not kosher ... Ritual eating of the corpse of their god, this privilege for the goyim "taste the body and drink the blood" ...
Well, money issues are a separate song, it’s a pity, of course, lave, but what a pop, such a parish - the fish goes out from the head, Moscow goyim will increase prices for rituals, that’s all business ...

[Soul of Russia87]

Quote: Sofkar

is he a patriarch or not? If the church he leads has a tomos of the Ecumenical Patriarch of Constantinople (as well as one and a half dozen canonical Orthodox patriarchates around the world), then why is he a schismatic and self-proclaimed?

The Patriarchate of Constantinople is not the Pope of Rome who steers the Catholics as he wants, the Orthodox Church has ALWAYS been a cathedral church where important issues are accepted TOTALLY at ecumenical councils and the issue of the canonicity of a particular local church is accepted by ALL Orthodox churches, and not a small part. Even out of the 4 ancient patriarchs, only two recognized the birds.