Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation: Russian troops destroyed 4 MLRS HIMARS and warehouses of the Armed Forces of Ukraine

The Russian armed forces continue to fight with the Ukrainian formations in several key directions at once, strikes are being made at the places of deployment of troops and enemy warehouses. This was announced today at a regular briefing by the official representative of the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation, Lieutenant-General Igor Konashenkov.

In Druzhkovka, in the occupied part of the Donetsk People's Republic, Russian troops destroyed two American-made HIMARS multiple launch rocket systems (MLRS) launchers and four RM-70 Vampire MLRS transferred by the Czech Republic as a result of a missile strike. Also managed to destroy more than 800 shells for MLRS, 6 military vehicles.

In Kramatorsk, the Russian Armed Forces with well-aimed fire destroyed 2 HIMARS MLRS launchers, which were used by Ukrainian formations to shell residential areas of settlements in the Donetsk People's Republic.

In addition, Russian troops destroyed 2 weapons depots and 2 fuel storage facilities for military needs in the Zaporozhye and Dnepropetrovsk regions. In the area of ​​Tyaginka in the Kherson region, a warehouse of weapons and military equipment of the enemy was destroyed. In total, rocket troops and artillery of the Russian Armed Forces attacked 72 artillery units of the Ukrainian army in firing positions. The personnel and military equipment of the enemy were hit in 104 districts.

The losses of Ukrainian artillery over the past day are impressive: in addition to the named MLRS, in the area of ​​​​Artemovsk in the DPR and Chervona Dibrova in the occupied part of the Lugansk People's Republic, 3 American M777 artillery systems were destroyed, and near Volchansk in the Kharkiv region and Serebryanka in the DPR - 2 Ukrainian BM-21 "Grad", in the area of ​​​​Gulyaipol and Kamensky in the Zaporozhye region (in its part occupied by the Armed Forces of Ukraine) - 2 D-30 howitzers.

The air defense also worked well: 9 HIMARS MLRS shells were intercepted, 13 unmanned aerial vehicles launched by the Ukrainian military were shot down.

Comments

[Sergio_7]

Work brothers! Victory is still far away.

[lis-ik]

At this rate, the Americans will soon have nothing to transfer, are they already destroying horses in the United States?

[culinary]

Quote: lis-ik

At this rate, the Americans will soon have nothing to transfer, are they already destroying horses in the United States?

Yes, believe this nightingale, do not respect yourself ..

[Planem]

In fact, this "nightingale" is the official representative of the RF Ministry of Defense. And he transmits the official summary of the RF Ministry of Defense, and not his own fantasies.

[ivan1979nkl]

lis-ik (Sergey)
Do you propose to regret these Hymars? Someone has to take care of this?

[Paul Siebert]

Exactly!
Konashenkov has already destroyed 7 more Hymers than the US allocated to Ukraine. Including planned ones!
Arestovich nervously smokes on the sidelines!

[Himalayan]

Their main goal is to eliminate control and criticism
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Without means of objective control, this is a lie until the death of the country

[DMFalke]

Would you at least clarify, otherwise it will be difficult for a comrade major looking at your comment to choose whether to give you a medal or plant))

[SSR]

Quote: Sergio_7

Work brothers! Victory is still far away.

One of the few misunderstandings.
Why doesn’t the Russian Federation declare the amount for, at least, MLRS, air defense, warehouses and bases with mercenaries for - at least currency and lifting in countries loyal to Russia?
Shared, checked, confirmed - fire and fix. There is? Get it. Corridor though through RB.
It is at least cheaper and you can build up gradually.
To a trusted supplier, a bonus for columns or flying planes and helicopters.

[Himalayan]

Rotten System.
No connection, interaction.
Just all the joints and limbs by themselves, and eats, and poops, and tries to sing at the same time.
Yes, and deaf, half-blind, with slanting eyes

[A.K.]

How many chimeras have already been destroyed, more than a dozen will definitely end (we will destroy) slowly, like the "y" points in due time.

[Pankrat25]

They are produced and supplied CONTINUOUSLY and non-stop.

[Vik ganz]

Nimeru produce one a year? Somewhere I read it.

[Pankrat25]

There are more than 500 of them in stock, + production has been launched with modernization of about 96 per year (and most likely many more).

[Mikhail Maslov]

There was already an article on the site about how we destroyed 44 Hymers out of 40 delivered. You don’t need to report, but look for countermeasures, primarily intelligence. And let the MO reports remain on the conscience of these generals

[azkolt]

Quote: Mikhail Maslov

There was already an article on the site about how we destroyed 44 Hymers out of 40 delivered. You don’t need to report, but look for countermeasures, primarily intelligence. And let the MO reports remain on the conscience of these generals

You are clearly exaggerating, there was no such article and the Hymers are being destroyed tightly, it’s good that they destroyed at least 20 pieces, so these numbers 44 do not need to be invented.

[Mikhail Ya2]

Here is the article https://topwar.ru/206674-skolko-mars-i-himars-ostalos-u-vsu.html

[leks]

Quote: azkolt

Quote: Mikhail Maslov

There was already an article on the site about how we destroyed 44 Hymers out of 40 delivered. You don’t need to report, but look for countermeasures, primarily intelligence. And let the MO reports remain on the conscience of these generals

You are clearly exaggerating, there was no such article and the Hymers are being destroyed tightly, it’s good that they destroyed at least 20 pieces, so these numbers 44 do not need to be invented.

Just the same, there was such an article! The author of this article calculated how many chimars and its analogues have already been destroyed. The author considered based on the MORF reports from Konashenkov.
According to these calculations and reports, it turns out that for the second time they began to destroy, and this is not only for this technique.

[RED_ICE]

The author indicated in the article only the number of RSZOs about the supplies of which there was information in the media. And how much more did you put on Ukraine in a quiet one?

[leks]

Quote: RED_ICE

The author indicated in the article only the number of RSZOs about the supplies of which there was information in the media. And how much more did you put on Ukraine in a quiet one?

There are official figures, and the author repelled from these figures. Why would he invent what was possible or not. If you have another confirmed figure, then please voice it and calculate based on these figures.
According to MORF reports, more than 25 pieces have already been shot down by Su-110! Although there were no more than 50-60 of them in the entire EU and Ukraine, and only half of them were rubbish. It has long been clear that MORF is engaged in postscripts in reporting.

[cold wind]

The question here is at what level do the subscriptions go. If at the level of voicing numbers, the only claim is that they would somehow be commensurate with reality. It’s worse if it’s at the grassroots and this is the real data that the MO receives.

[leks]

Quote from cold wind

The question here is at what level do the subscriptions go. If at the level of voicing numbers, the only claim is that they would somehow be commensurate with reality. It’s worse if it’s at the grassroots and this is the real data that the MO receives.

The private, Sergeant staff is unlikely to be engaged in this, the junior officer staff is the same vryatli.
But starting from colonels and above, they begin to deal with this garbage. Konashenkov voices the numbers that his department provided him on the basis of the numbers that came from units from the NWO.

[DMFalke]

Quiet? this is PR for the whole world - they will blow about every thing. And how do you imagine deliveries quietly in the modern world? In the US, at the stage of shipment, the opposition will crap opponents and post pictures themselves.

[dmi.pris1]

Yes, they are hard to find and even harder to destroy. But the report runs ahead of the cart

[dementor873]

I have had doubts about the planes for a long time, and there were orders of magnitude more of them. They are all knocked down and knocked down.

[nik-mazur]

Quote: Mikhail Maslov

how we destroyed 44 Hymers out of 40 delivered

a) The author does not distinguish between the concepts of “suppressed”, “hit” and “destroyed”, and these are quite clear and, suddenly for armchair experts, completely different military terms.
b) It is not entirely clear why the data of the Western press (Washington Post, Tagesblatt and Deutsche Welle) are used with absolutely unconditional trust.
For example, how do the journalists of some "Tagesblatt" know which MLRS and in what quantities are supplied to Ukraine? Only from military suppliers. And why should they leak accurate data to the press? On the contrary, if you initially underestimate the number of Himars, they become even more powerful and elusive, and reports of their destruction can be called Russian propaganda...

[skeptick2]

The author at least operates with specific figures. Yes, from open sources. Including foreign ones. And what, order to continue to believe the fables of Konashenkov? What 4 Hymers are "destroyed" today? Those same minus four, which can only exist in the form of scrap metal after all "destroyed" by our MO?
The man at least took the trouble and gave specific figures. Unlike cheers-patriots who believe any fake. Like a recent report about 2 planes and 2 helicopters of the Armed Forces of Ukraine shot down in one sortie by one machine in the style of "seven beatings in one fell swoop!". Messages taken from the Telegram channel! And posted here, on a serious resource! By the way, I have not found any confirmation of this tale on the Web anywhere else.
Propaganda, colleague, should look at least a little like the truth. Otherwise, it will perform the exact opposite function and cause only laughter.
Among thinking people, does anyone still take Konashenkov's reports seriously? These fantastic figures, not supported by absolutely nothing?

[agoran]

Shooting down two sides and two turntables in one flight is difficult, but technically quite possible.
Two sides were paired, launched missiles, on the return course they pointed at the turntables.

[Blackmokona]

Quote: agoran

Shooting down two sides and two turntables in one flight is difficult, but technically quite possible.
Two sides were paired, launched missiles, on the return course they pointed at the turntables.

There are so many enemy aircraft flying in the sky over Ukraine that it is possible to find and intercept 4 targets in one sortie? At the same time, there are so few of ours that one pilot got everything?

[skeptick2]

Quote: agoran

Shooting down two sides and two turntables in one flight is difficult, but technically quite possible.

Yes, I'm not interested in what is theoretically or technically possible. Theoretically, Russia could even make the ruble the only convertible currency in the world.
Two days ago I asked and now I ask one question: where is the documentary confirmation of this tale? For the comment to which I received about 70 minuses and the second "letter of happiness" from the moderators?
Where are the links to documentary evidence of this fact? After all, there was nothing but a mention of this fiction in the Telegram channel! And no! And it won't! For this is a fake of the purest water.

[Planem]

You are a skeptic to the core! You call the official message of the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation a fairy tale. And what proof do you need? For each destroyed unit of enemy equipment - a document? Moreover, probably, with signatures and seals? From whom - from the enemy troops killed in / from the enemy? Although, of course, there are still grounds for assumptions about a significant exaggeration of the amount of destroyed equipment and military units of the enemy army of the Russian Defense Ministry. It is very difficult to calculate them in general.

[nik-mazur]

Quote from: skeptick2

where is the evidence for this story?

Try to get some leading position in the General Staff and every day you will be presented with daily reports with all the details. In the meantime, you are a simple Internet user with a suspicious registration date, then the Ministry of Defense has every right to ignore your Wishlist - even cry, even stomp your feet. This is the harsh reality...

[Konstantin Shevchenko]

You are being told that all sources are lying. And you again drown for lies similar to the truth. Interestingly, is the closeness to the truth according to inner feelings or do you use divination methods?

[nik-mazur]

Quote from: skeptick2

these fantastic figures, not supported by absolutely nothing

You say that as if the Washington Post figures are backed up by something. Given that Konashenkov is an official representative of the Ministry of Defense, who has access to information, including classified information, and journalists are, by definition, whistleblowers who bear absolutely no responsibility. Nevertheless, you, for some reason, believe them without the slightest doubt.
Well, you ignored point “a”, just like the author of the article, who operates with “specific numbers” (as if the numbers were printed in blurry type in MO reports), but does not understand the difference between the terms “suppress”, “hit” and destroy and therefore stupidly summarizes them ...

[Dali]

Quote from: nik-mazur

You say that as if the Washington Post figures are backed up by something.

Yes, these gr. more like cissosnoks ... it’s necessary to use the calculations of the media of enemies !!!

[Ivanikus]

In this article, the number of "afflicted" Hymers is added to the "destroyed", which is completely wrong. "Amazed" equipment is considered disabled for a certain number of lines, but not destroyed ...

[nik-mazur]

Quote: Ivanikus

the number of "hit" hymers is added to the "destroyed", which is completely wrong

So the fact of the matter is that the “veil breakers” do not understand at all what they are talking about.
"Suppressed" - in relation to artillery, it means forced to cease fire. It doesn't matter for what reason - the ammunition was scattered, the sight was damaged, the calculation was mowed down, or the enemy simply got scared and dumped from the position.
“Stricken” is the same as wounded. At the same time, the wound can be both light and severe - one is treated with iodine in a couple of days, the other requires six months of treatment in the hospital.
"Destroyed" - that's all, a corpse with no chance of resuscitation.
But even if we count only the destroyed equipment, then in order to calculate the remainder you need to know what to subtract from - and this is known only to suppliers, but not to journalists ...

[Arbeiternegast]

The conscience of the generals is endless, a lot of things can remain on it ... Another thing is where are all our satellites "a la' Rogozin"? Why is it so hard to calculate these chimeras? Judging by the events, this is the most dangerous weapon of ours, so is it possible to throw all the intelligence forces into calculating exactly the chimeras, keep at the ready even mopeds, even aircraft, for a direct and quick response to information about the chimera?

[Alex_mech]

Chimeras have wheels and use them, while "mopeds" don't even have "eyes", they fly to a point on the map.

[Xnumx vis]

Quote: Mikhail Maslov

There was already an article on the site, like we destroyed 44 "Hymers" of the delivered 40

You have destroyed .. . Are you from Ashdod?

[boom]

Work brothers! we are waiting for you home!

[azkolt]

Yes, in Druzhkovka it blazed notably and it is immediately clear that they got into the warehouse, and not, as it sometimes seems, the Ukrainians placed pyrotechnics there and more tires to create visibility!

[Nikolaevich I]

The air defense also worked well: 9 HIMARS MLRS shells were intercepted, 13 unmanned aerial vehicles launched by the Ukrainian military were shot down. No matter how much this rubbish was shot down ... 63 dead as a result of someone's criminal stupidity can no longer be returned!

[vitvit123]

In the cart (tg-channel "image of the future") they write about much larger numbers .. how much I read this channel, he was not particularly noticed in hysteria!...

[UAZ 452]

63 - confirmed at some point in time. How much more they got out from under the rubble, they are in no hurry to report, and most importantly, how much more is under the rubble. And not the fact that someday they will report. After all, 2 people died on the cruiser Moskva, and more than twenty (according to this figure) may still be missing. Obviously, the rescue operation at sea is still ongoing.

[Andrey Andreev_2]

And how many Hymars launchers need to be destroyed so that there is nothing more to launch missiles? Why give them the opportunity to get to the front line at all? Destroy the Hercules that are dragging them, destroy them during unloading, during transportation ... Where are the vaunted Rogozin eyes (companions) that everyone sees? Or do they all 'hang' over the bunkers where the 'combat leaders' sit, guarding their peace...?

[leks]

Quote: Andrey Andreev_2

And how many Hymars launchers need to be destroyed so that there is nothing more to launch missiles? Why give them the opportunity to get to the front line at all? Destroy the Hercules that are dragging them, destroy them during unloading, during transportation ... Where are the vaunted Rogozin eyes (companions) that everyone sees? Or do they all 'hang' over the bunkers where the 'combat leaders' sit, guarding their peace...?

On paper, in vaunted reports and bravura speeches, all this!

[Irek]

Someone is squealing that we are running out of rackets, let them look at the photo ...

[UAZ 452]

No one thinks to "squeal" that we do not have enough weapons for parades, exhibitions, air shows and tank biathlons. The problem is that for a real war you need a few (once in a few hundred) more. And far from everything that looks beautiful at the exhibition (if these are not models at all) confirms its performance characteristics during hostilities. However, most of what we were proudly shown in the program "Military Acceptance" and similar ones simply evaporated without a trace with the start of the NWO. As if all this did not exist at all, like one and a half million sets of ammunition.

[spirit]

Someday Konashenkov will sip more cognac than usual before a briefing and destroy the Lockheed Martin factory in his fertile imagination

[Alexandr2637]

It's time for this talking head (Konashenkov) to start thinking....before blurting out another lie all over the country.
From his reports, more Hymers were destroyed than delivered ... and they are still shelling Donetsk, and not only ....

[guerilla707]

Firstly, the exact number of installations delivered is not known, and secondly, part of the installations was hit, not destroyed, these are two big differences. There is an opinion of analysts in the EU that the number of Khimari transferred to the Ukrainians is approximately 70 to 80 installations.

[Asad]

What is your evidence? Link please.

[skeptick2]

Quote: guerrilla707

There is an opinion of analysts in the EU that the number of Khimari transferred to the Ukrainians is approximately 70 to 80 installations.

If there is such an opinion, why not give it more convincingly? With links to the source? Preferably a reputable source, not a Telegram channel.
Or is there no opinion? Is there just a desire to think so?

[UAZ 452]

It's time for this talking head (Konashenkov) to start thinking....before blurting out another lie all over the country.

They don't give him stars for what he thinks. And anyway - why should he think? He's a general!

[Yaro Polk]

all the dams would have been blown away ... the NWO would have ended long ago ... especially Kukuevvkuyu.

[Tagan]

Quote: Alexandr2637

It's time for this talking head (Konashenkov) to start thinking....before blurting out another lie all over the country.
From his reports, more Hymers were destroyed than delivered ... and they are still shelling Donetsk, and not only ....

Perhaps not only to him.
You might think that you know for sure how many of them were actually delivered.

[wladimirjankov]

I would like to believe in it, but for some reason now I can’t believe it anymore without video recording. You can just say anything like that, because there is no responsibility for it.

[shikin]

What kind of video recording in the same Kramatorsk do you want? From Ukraine? I think that any attempt to film military equipment can be immediately paid.
And confirmation can be from a satellite, maybe from agents and intelligence, in a good way - from several sources.

[Light]

Is this what the guardians showed on live TV? Yes, it sounded nice.

[Asad]

They are beautiful, we are not very beautiful.

[Light]

It seemed to me, or the news about the destroyed enemy echelon upset you. And I'm just glad.

[Alexey Krekotnev]

The legend is fresh, but it is hard to believe.

[tralflot1832]

The coolest thing is that the Kharkov resistance, and they have more information, says: That LSD Altair destroyed Haymars on their breath, by detonation. 1,7 km shells flew exactly in the corner.

[Horon]

Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation: Russian troops destroyed 4 MLRS HIMARS and warehouses of the Armed Forces of Ukraine

And to say that they destroyed 4 foreign rocket launchers, without specifying which ones - religion does not allow? Well, are you all promoting these RSZOs, highlighting their use and destruction? Yes, the same, still Soviet rocket launchers, during the bd, the damage was done many times more than these hymers!

[Dmitry Rigov]

It’s just that the Soviet MLRS definitely have less damage, at least they couldn’t literally erase the vocational school building. Therefore, Hymars is singled out as the destruction of enemy highly effective weapons.

[Horon]

Quote: Dmitry Rigov

It’s just that the Soviet MLRS definitely have less damage, at least they couldn’t literally erase the vocational school building. Therefore, Hymars is singled out as the destruction of enemy highly effective weapons.

You are very mistaken, when they destroyed Mariupol, there were no Himers yet. You just confirmed the quality work of this PR. The bulk of the losses do not come from the Hymers, just as the work of a sniper will never outdo that of a machine gun. A sniper can act, intimidate or create uncertainty in the ranks of the enemy, but machine guns, having less effectiveness individually, cause casualties by their massive use. Why don't they write much about our Iskanders and calibers abroad as superweapons? After all, they also cause considerable damage, but by themselves in a conventional performance they will not be able to win a single battle, they can only change the balance of power. So the American Hymers can only carry out an action shelling of reconnoitered warehouses and accumulations, but in the conditions of a serious offensive or lack of high-quality intelligence, they will very quickly turn into a very mediocre rocket launcher, albeit with accurate missiles, but shoot them at the enemy located "somewhere out there" would be pointless, expensive and ineffective.

[Dmitry Rigov]

Judging by the battlefield, the Armed Forces of Ukraine retreated before Western supplies, but then over the past few months they forced them to retreat in the Kharkiv region, mobilize, surrender Kherson. This means that Western weapons work quite well, I’m not saying that the Soviet MLRS are bad, they’re just created for other tasks, so comparing a sniper and a machine gunner is inappropriate, these are different tools for different tasks, and the Haimars do their job quite well.

[BorzRio]

The MO chose the most incompetent communication with the public - a chattering general's head on TV, reading the fabulous nonsense of the running line into the camera. Instead of real daily press briefings, where journalists can ask uncomfortable questions and provide refuting or proving facts. And why? Because they are afraid of this very feedback and exposure of lies. As a result, the attitude towards Konashenkov as a boring advertisement - as soon as he is on the screen, the audience immediately clicks on another channel.

[Planem]

What is needed is not just communication with the public, but regular official statements and speeches by the Supreme Commander-in-Chief, the Minister of Defense and other heads of the Ministry. But in Russia there are such brilliant Supreme Commanders, the Defense Ministry and their deputies that they preferred to blame everything on a minor general who reads the official reports of the Defense Ministry. As for the "lie" from the Moscow Region, no one will tell you the whole truth, at least while the war or even the NWO is going on. Firstly, it is impossible to fix everything exactly, and, secondly, no one has yet canceled propaganda and disinformation of the enemy. You are here exposing the Russian Defense Ministry, but it seems that the military leaders of Ukraine are exaggerating more, and they don’t know the edges at all in propaganda and disinformation. In general, one should not get too hung up on reports on the number of enemy military units or military units hit or destroyed. The results of military operations are reflected primarily in occupied / liberated cities and other settlements. And with this, the Russian Armed Forces have been having a hard time since August, and in September there was a failure in general.

[Alt 22]

I came here to watch a video of the destruction of the Hymars, or at least a photo of the wreckage. But I saw only the words of Koshanenkov.

And I remembered a joke where Vasily Ivanovich tells Petka where he sat down to play with the British, cards, "point", one said that he had a "Point", Vasily Ivanovich demanded to show, and he declares - "Gentlemen take their word for it! "
- "Well, here, Petka, the map flooded me ..."

I don’t know why I remembered this - after all, everyone knows that the RF Ministry of Defense and Konashenkov will not lie!

[Ratibor_A]

Give them a video ... Well, you Ukrainians are used to the fact that everything is shown to you on TV in Ho.landia in detail with repetitions, explosions .... Hollywood is resting .... Only then, having examined it in more detail, it turns out that all this is fake ..
We Russians do not need this, for us the result is more important, and not a movie on TV.
Therefore, in vain you demand ukrotrols that it should be like you have in Ho.hlyandii.

[Tagan]

Quote: Alt22

I came here to watch a video of the destruction of the Hymars, or at least a photo of the wreckage. But I saw only the words of Koshanenkov.

Meal'n'Real? Is someone obliged to provide this to you? It’s not all the same to measure insta and tik-tok.

[Alt 22]

So no one is obliged to believe liars. And when, according to Konashenkov's statements, dozens of "khimars" have already been destroyed, and they continue to operate at the front, terrifying the Russian army, it turns out that you are lying.
And, remember for the future, the good old Roman law - "The burden of proof lies with the assertor!"

[Alex_mech]

Quote: Andrey Andreev_2

Where are the vaunted Rogozin eyes (satellites), who see everything?

There are none and never have been.

[Fedor1]

Rogozin is staring at the sky with his own eyes right now.

[Tatiana K]

I hope the real installations are destroyed, and not dummies, as has already happened.

[VladimirNET]

It's just some kind of holiday, for 03.01.2022/XNUMX/XNUMX:
destroyed 10 MLRS (including 4 HIMARS), 5 guns.
Sources:
https://news.mail.ru/incident/54535487/?frommail=1
https://z.mil.ru/spec_mil_oper/brief/briefings.htm

[km-21]

The only reliable confirmation of the destruction of enemy equipment is the termination of its operation at the front. However, despite the victorious reports, the enemy MLRS continue to create big problems for our army. This means that either the destruction of the Hymers is somewhat exaggerated, or their deliveries at a faster rate compensate for their losses. In any case, the work of our counter-battery forces is ineffective.

[Fedor1]

And earlier, before Makiivka, this did not work for some reason?

[VladMirU]

Quote: Plan

In fact, this "nightingale" is the official representative of the RF Ministry of Defense. And he transmits the official summary of the RF Ministry of Defense, and not his own fantasies.

So what ? Does the word "official" inspire you a lot?

[Sasha Koblov]

As long as there are bridges in western Ukraine, soon they will arrive in Donetsk not for 10 himars, but for 100, it’s clear to the stupid. In the west, munitions factories will soon be operating at full capacity.
And it's time to deal with NATO bases.
They do not consider the Donbas to be Russian territory, and why do we consider their bases near our borders to be US territory?
NATO is actually at war with Russia, and we are all mondragiruem something.

[Alt 22]

two launchers of multiple launch rocket systems (MLRS) HIMARS were destroyed

- Well, at least once to look at the photo of the destroyed Himars, or at least on the video of their destruction, without gluing and editing!