Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation: The sky of the capital during the holidays will be protected by about 20 thousand air defense-missile defense personnel

Critical facilities located in the Russian capital will be reliably protected from possible enemy air attacks. Recall that some Ukrainian "experts" predicted a blow to Moscow on New Year's holidays.

More than 1800 military personnel of the 1st Air Defense / Missile Defense Special Forces Army will be on duty on New Year's Eve VKS reports RIA News with reference to the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation.

In general, about 20 thousand military personnel will be involved in protecting the skies of Moscow on New Year's holidays, the Russian military department said.

Regarding the 1st Air Defense / Missile Defense Army, it performs the task of protecting Moscow from possible missile attacks (including ballistic missiles) and other air attacks. In particular, warheads of enemy ICBMs can be hit by silo-based anti-missiles.

In addition, last year it was reported that the advanced S-500 Prometheus complex entered service with the aforementioned army.

According to the data "leaked" to the public domain, the latest complex will be able to hit ballistic and aerodynamic targets in a wide range of altitudes at a distance of up to 500-600 km.

At the same time, some foreign sources express fears that the S-500 can also hit satellites in low orbit, which is not capable of any of the existing air defense / missile defense systems in the world.

Comments

[Ded60]

Right now, the Khokhliki will run in and start to be stupid (well, like to joke, but for witticisms "mosk" is needed). Hey, Khokhliki, go ahead and demonstrate what the owners prescribed for you in this case in the training manual

[Machito]

And what about the New Year Salute in Ukraine? Ukrainian non-brothers deserve to meet the New Year in basements without electricity for the Russian genocide in the Donbass and other crimes.
Happy New Year everyone!!!

[Nikolay310]

non-brothers (like Zelensky, Danilov, Yermak and other painters) will not be touched by anyone ... as usual, those who do not need this war for nothing will suffer ... and most of them would live quietly together with the peoples of Russia ..

and in general, drawing conclusions from the crowd about the whole people is somehow stupid ... after all, they don’t draw conclusions about Russians from ROA lovers ...

[kit88]

So what's the deal? Go ahead, change the government, and then we will agree. You even received help near Kyiv in February.
However, the further, the greater the understanding that you are not my brother ...

[Magog_]

the more understanding that you are not my brother

The main meaning of the word "fraternal" is a family connection. And, in general, it means nothing more! Why did the second interpretation of this word "friendly" appear in our language?! Why are "fraternal" and "friendly" considered synonymous? In ordinary life, often brothers, sisters and relatives are the most fierce enemies to each other ...

[Normal]

The trial balloon of enemies, according to my logic, will have to end in an instant if they take the risk. Well, that's what I would do. For a long time.

[Lt. Air Force stock]

AWACS airships are needed, only they are capable of detecting low-flying targets at long distances. And AWACS aircraft cannot be constantly kept in the air.

[Goto]

NATO has a different opinion. Probably just need to have more planes?

[Leader_Barmaleev]

NATO has a different opinion.

As one bad but smart man Al Capone used to say - "Everyone has an opinion, it's like a hole in the pope, but this is not a reason to demonstrate it to everyone, and certainly not a reason to take it into account."

[your vsr 66-67]

Quote: Lt. Air Force stock

AWACS airships are needed, only they are capable of detecting low-flying targets at long distances. And AWACS aircraft cannot be constantly kept in the air.

So the airship is easier to shoot down! How to protect it?

[Introvert]

Quote: your vsr 66-67

So the airship is easier to shoot down! How to protect it?

So it is much easier, cheaper and faster to build it. And you can place them not only near the front line, but also in the depths. In the same Engels, it would not hurt to hang such strategists above the airfield, otherwise it would be a fail after a fail.

[Leader_Barmaleev]

So the airship is easier to shoot down! How to protect it?

The AWACS airship, oddly enough, is MUCH more efficient than an airplane. Rationale:
1. An airship, especially a tethered one, can fly for an INFINITELY long time at much higher altitudes than an AWACS aircraft can do. The maximum height of such an aircraft is 15000 m. The maximum height of an airship is 35 km.
2. An aircraft requires a crew and infrastructure, an airship requires only ground operators.
3. The airship flies over its own territory, where an attempt to bring it down will be regarded as a direct attack with all the consequences.
4. The airship is incredibly hard to get into - it has no thermal signature. Absolutely not! That is, it can only be hit with a rocket with an active radar. And such missiles are caught at a time. The laser illumination does not work, as it is easily detected and unmasks the observation post and a reciprocal splash is guaranteed.
5. Cherry on the cake - the price of an airship is commensurate with the budget of two or three AWACS flights.
So the future of AWACS is mainly for modern balloons of various modifications.

[Alf]

Quote: Leader_Barmaleev

3. The airship flies over its own territory, where an attempt to bring it down will be regarded as a direct attack with all the consequences.

And how then to evaluate the triple strike on the strategic nuclear forces component?

Quote: Leader_Barmaleev

2. An aircraft requires a crew and infrastructure, an airship requires only ground operators.

Those. Shouldn't it be stored anywhere? Inflate at the factory, overtake by air to the place of the PD, the crew will climb the rope, throw the spare parts from the trampoline too?

[UAZ 452]

If air defense is not able to protect the AWACS balloon, then it will not protect the AWACS aircraft either. The airship is at least cheaper, it can be unmanned, and the equipment in the gondola can be saved by parachute in case of an irresistible threat, as, indeed, the engines, having lost only the balloon itself.

[Leader_Barmaleev]

and the equipment in the gondola can be saved by parachute in the event of an irresistible threat, as, indeed, the engines, having lost only the balloon itself.

You are absolutely right, and there are very interesting nuances here - if the airship is hydrogen, then at the moment it is blown up, the parachute system of the gondola is automatically triggered - hydrogen gives a blast and even with a short suspension length, the equipment does not suffer. Everything is more interesting if helium is used - the shell and balloonets, of course, are full of holes, but descend along with the instrument gondola by parachute. The old balloonet is thrown away, a new balloonet is put into the shell instead, the holes on the load-bearing shell are sealed with aviation tape and that's it, the device is ready for work again. To perforate the shell to a complete loss of functionality, you need NOT ONE DOZEN ROCKETS, or special anti-aerostatic missiles (shrapnel) missiles, which are now only being developed. Their principle of destruction is similar to that of Buk with his 9M317M missile, only striking elements in the form of "snowflakes" with very long elastic tips to tear into rags.

[Amper]

But there is a huge downside! obvious cheapness does not give profit when cutting the project! Business, nothing personal!

[Ilgizl]

By the way, in general, along given routes, they can continuously, even taking into account the turnover in the case of prevention and repair, with sufficient numbers, cover very large areas with themselves.

[Lykases1]

By the way, yes. To protect your territory - just a great solution. It's not clear why they don't want to.

[ab111]

ABOUT!!!
We have already started talking about the security of the sky in Moscow ....
Successfully, but our NWO is developing

[Introvert]

Well, yes ... an ambiguous statement turned out) It seems that the NMD is going on in another state, but they gathered to defend the capital, as if there were no other cities between it and the zone, especially those that are constantly under fire. First of all, they would be covered in NG.

[Nikolay310]

I hope the Ministry of Defense remembers that they are the Ministry of Defense of Russia, not Muscovy. and in Belgorod, Voronezh, Saratov or Yakutsk the same people live as in Moscow. and for the most part even more useful than most Muscovites. the very ones that produce planes, helicopters, Iskanders and other joys. and their sky should be as peaceful as the sky of Mishustin, Lavrov and other manturovs (unless, of course, they meet NG in some Thailand)

[_Ugene_]

I hope the Ministry of Defense remembers that they are the Ministry of Defense of Russia, not Muscovy. and in Belgorod, Voronezh, Saratov or Yakutsk the same people live

so the ministers are not Belgorod and Voronezh

[Fangaro]

And the sky of the rest of Russia will be just as reliably protected?

[Alf]

Quote from Fangaro

And the sky of the rest of Russia will be just as reliably protected?

Residents of Saratov, Bryansk, Volgograd are sure of this ...

[Osipov9391]

One of the main problems in this regard is that up to a third of registered aircraft in Russia (almost all small aircraft and not only) fly without responders of the state identification "Friend or foe" because they are not equipped with them at all!
And this greatly complicates the work of air defense to identify potential intruders, enemy drones and cruise missiles in the depths of the country's territory after the distance of such a target from the border by 150-200 km.
Therefore, 3 attempts to attack Engels and the case in Ryazan will not let you lie.
And no one will solve this problem. Everything will remain as it is.

[Leader_Barmaleev]

that up to a third of registered aircraft in Russia (almost all small aircraft and not only) fly without responders of the state identification "friend or foe" because they are not equipped with them at all!

But there is a nuance - one, but completely killing all the pathos of your speech - they all fly with air traffic control. You have to be sick all over to just take it and fly - it is fraught with such enemas that it will not seem enough. And in the future, all flying aircraft will have a CIVIL auto-detection system with a unique coding system. While communication with the dispatcher is more reliable.

[Osipov9391]

They fly, I personally talked and saw.
What kind of dispatching support are you talking about if there is no defendant on board the aircraft?
All there is is a verbal request for departure. And that's it.
But all such aircraft look like unidentified ones, and therefore it is difficult to understand whether they are their own or others if they are 150-200 km away from the border.
Of course, there are those who voluntarily install imported transponders on their aircraft for the secondary location of ATC services. But there are very few of them.

And the existing defendants of domestic production, both military and civilian, cost the wildest money - this is a state order.
Nobody will install them on a small aircraft.

And even the aviation of state structures partly also flies without defendants. Generally without them.

[Leader_Barmaleev]

It became clear that we are talking about the same problem, just in different words. So, there are three levels, let's call it conditionally, of tracking an aircraft:
1. Air traffic control support - since the advent of radio stations in aircraft, this method has been used as the main one - the dialogue between the pilot and the air navigation service dispatcher. The working scheme in all but one - the pilot must know his coordinates or his position on the benchmarks every moment. A lost pilot became a huge problem. Today, a cell phone can be used as a radio station, provided there are towers - it is very unreliable, but it works for amateur micro-aerodromes.
2. A transponder is a stupid beacon that shows the dispatcher who is flying - a label with an index appears on the screen. The device is the size of a pack of cigarettes and does not exclude dialogue with the dispatcher, as it simply shows the position in space of a certain board with a certain number.
3. Responder-recognizer - works ONLY on an encoded request, does not detect itself before the request. On civil aircraft, it is used extremely rarely due to uselessness - civilian aircraft are controlled by dispatchers all the way. However, they are used on combat aircraft, attack drones and even missiles, which, by the way, caused the entire cruiser to drown with a small helfire missile during the Falklands conflict - the cruiser recognized the missile as its own and did not shoot at it.
This is me to the fact that today there is simply no ideal means of recognizing friend or foe, alas.

[UAZ 452]

The sky of the capital during the holidays will be protected by about 20 thousand air defense-missile defense personnel

Will they be able to provide the same cover at another time, in other places? In Alexander Pokrovsky’s stories about the Soviet army (“72 meters”, I highly recommend) there was such an officer’s phrase: “If I were NATO, I would declare war on us, but wouldn’t start fighting - we would have tortured ourselves to death with organizational periods and checks” Maybe not verbatim, but I remembered this phrase due to the fact that if all efforts are concentrated precisely on Moscow and precisely on the New Year holidays, then if there are no fools in the Armed Forces of Ukraine, then they will strike in any other place, or at another time, when vigilance after rush will inevitably fall. After all, we are not very good at doing something systematically and routinely, we are more of a rush job and heroic overcoming.
PS The 1st Army of Air Defense / ABM for special purposes of the VKS, formerly the Moscow District of Air Defense / ABM, has only been renamed FIVE times in twenty years. And this is a shake-up of the staff, a change in the structure of subordination, a rewriting of all instructions ... This is complete chaos, disorganization for at least a year, if not more, when it’s actually violet to serve everyone, and it’s impossible to solve the simplest issue. I hope that enough time has passed since the last such organizational staff, and there the people at least figured out who is responsible for what. Otherwise, it may turn out like in Engels, where at least the third "gift" of the farmers was shot down, but still no one can clearly say - how, and in general, where did it come from?

[Osipov9391]

The latter flew in from Ukraine, because my comment above is why this is happening and will continue to happen.
Now on.
If my memory serves me right, then the 28th IAP in Andreapol on the MiG-29 and the 611th in Bezhetsk on the Su-27P (this is not far from me) were also part of the Moscow air defense KSPN.
There is nothing left of them. The equipment was cut, the airfields were abandoned, the infrastructure was taken away under Serdyukov.

[Gunther]

In February 2014, it was worth "chewing snot" (quote, the author is known) in order to now "reliably" protect the sky.
Belgorod and Kursk are not awarded such an honor, for some reason.

[Gunther]

Quote: Lt. Air Force stock

AWACS airships are needed, only they are capable of detecting low-flying targets at long distances. And AWACS aircraft cannot be constantly kept in the air.

I agree that in the conditions of a direct collision with Nata, these airships would be quickly knocked out, but in the current situation - that's it.

[fa2998]

Well, we didn’t worry about Moscow, it’s like a state within a state. Even under Brezhnev, they just started making missile defense, according to the agreement, ours decided to cover up Moscow.

[odometer]

Always on weekends and holidays, the service was carried out in an enhanced mode ... The Ministry of Defense, as always, wanted to show its intelligence, but showed another stupidity. Such a cheap PR, so, they say, we stand at the fear of enemies, for the joy of mom (DAD) ...