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Former Pentagon adviser called Patriot deliveries to Kyiv a farewell gesture before the defeat of the Armed Forces of Ukraine

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Former Pentagon adviser called Patriot deliveries to Kyiv a farewell gesture before the defeat of the Armed Forces of Ukraine

American Colonel Douglas McGregor, who is a former adviser to the head of the Pentagon, called the transfer of Patriot anti-aircraft missile systems to the Ukrainian army promised by US President Joe Biden as a kind of farewell gesture from Washington before the inevitable defeat of the Kyiv regime.


McGregor noted that such a gesture by Washington is an attempt by the White House to justify itself to the Ukrainian society after the impending complete defeat of the Ukrainian army during the armed conflict with the army of the Russian Federation.

According to the ex-adviser to the head of the American military department, this is done so that the Western allies of Ukraine can say that they did everything in their power to support the Kyiv regime, but they did not succeed.

McGregor also called "madness" the policy pursued by the US government towards the Ukrainian authorities, who initially had zero chances of success in the military campaign.

The retired US military has repeatedly stressed that, in his opinion, Ukraine will inevitably be defeated in an armed conflict with Russia, and no support from Western allies can save the country.

He also added that the main part of the military equipment supplied to Kyiv is outdated and not adapted to the modern conditions of warfare, and the supply of NATO equipment turns Ukrainian troops into a kaleidoscope, the appearance of which changes almost weekly.
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  1. Sergio_7
    Sergio_7 30 December 2022 14: 40
    +7
    American Colonel Douglas McGregor, who is a former adviser to the head of the Pentagon, called the transfer of Patriot anti-aircraft missile systems to the Ukrainian army promised by US President Joe Biden as a kind of farewell gesture from Washington before the inevitable defeat of the Kyiv regime.

    We call it a demobilization chord.
    McGregor also called "madness" the policy pursued by the US government towards the Ukrainian authorities, who initially had zero chances of success in the military campaign.

    Ukraine will end ... Poland will be next in line, unfortunately.
    1. credo
      credo 30 December 2022 14: 45
      +7
      And there is also an opinion that by supplying the very first and oldest Patriot, the Yankees want to test the operation of the system on it in action and in conflict with such a technologically advanced adversary as Russia.
      So Douglas' opinion is not the only and most correct one. smile
    2. voice of reason
      voice of reason 30 December 2022 14: 51
      -3
      Well, not the most farewell, because helicopters will be sent to the roof gladly ....
      1. Sith
        Sith 30 December 2022 15: 31
        +1
        I think they will save on fuel and take out earlier
        1. isv000
          isv000 30 December 2022 16: 53
          +3
          Quote from Sith
          I think they will save on fuel and take out earlier

          yes They will save, for sure, they will fill up on the spot ...
    3. Comandor777
      Comandor777 30 December 2022 14: 59
      +2
      Quote: Sergio_7
      American Colonel Douglas McGregor, who is a former adviser to the head of the Pentagon, called the transfer of Patriot anti-aircraft missile systems to the Ukrainian army promised by US President Joe Biden as a kind of farewell gesture from Washington before the inevitable defeat of the Kyiv regime.

      We call it a demobilization chord.
      McGregor also called "madness" the policy pursued by the US government towards the Ukrainian authorities, who initially had zero chances of success in the military campaign.

      Ukraine will end ... Poland will be next in line, unfortunately.

      But agree. It will be more pleasant to crush Poles. I had to mess with dill.
      1. Sith
        Sith 30 December 2022 15: 32
        0
        Yes ... the Poles are still rabid Russophobes ... and rid the world of their malicious hissing is a holy duty
      2. The comment was deleted.
        1. isv000
          isv000 30 December 2022 16: 55
          +1
          Quote: Kuzyakin15
          commander 777:
          And what, Ukraine has already capitulated?
          When was the surrender signed?
          Balabols b-t!

          She died. Signed. Only the junta was not notified, as unnecessary ...
    4. Plate
      Plate 30 December 2022 16: 17
      0
      Quote: Sergio_7
      Ukraine will end ... Poland will be next in line, unfortunately.

      Yes, there we can already cough with the Germans, if we are very impatient wink
      1. isv000
        isv000 30 December 2022 16: 57
        +1
        Quote: Plate
        Yes, there we can already cough with the Germans, if we are very impatient

        After all that has been done with the sausages, there is nothing to sharpen the laces - just issue an order with a list of actions ...
    5. topol717
      topol717 30 December 2022 17: 41
      +1
      Quote: Sergio_7
      Ukraine will end ... Poland will be next in line, unfortunately.

      Do you think Poland will shoot at Donetsk?
      What do you think Poland will do?
  2. BIABIA
    BIABIA 30 December 2022 14: 45
    -9
    Yes Yes. In the meantime, the Russian army is digging in and preparing for defense by setting up anti-tank guns on the border of the Belgorod region.
    1. credo
      credo 30 December 2022 14: 48
      +10
      One does not interfere with the other, despite the fact that the strengthening of the border had to begin to equip as early as 2014, at least. soldier
    2. Sith
      Sith 30 December 2022 15: 33
      -1
      And in each hole ... there you need to put lard, vodka and stretching)
    3. isv000
      isv000 30 December 2022 17: 02
      +2
      Quote: BIABIA
      Yes Yes. In the meantime, the Russian army is digging in and preparing for defense by setting up anti-tank guns on the border of the Belgorod region.

      While the Russian Army is digging in before the coming offensive, the army of the Armed Forces of Ukraine is digging in, in orderly rows:

  3. rocket757
    rocket757 30 December 2022 14: 48
    +1
    Former Pentagon adviser called Patriot deliveries to Kyiv a farewell gesture before the defeat of the Armed Forces of Ukraine
    So we'll see how it goes.
    1. dmi.pris1
      dmi.pris1 30 December 2022 14: 52
      0
      This McGregor has been prophesying the imminent end of the Armed Forces of Ukraine for a whole year. So far, his predictions have not come true
      1. isv000
        isv000 30 December 2022 17: 05
        +1
        Quote from: dmi.pris1
        This McGregor has been prophesying the imminent end of the Armed Forces of Ukraine for a whole year. So far, his predictions have not come true

        Four years went to Berlin ...
  4. Vladimir80
    Vladimir80 30 December 2022 14: 49
    -1
    In response to such "forecasts", the following can be proposed: on December 30.12.22, 24.02.23, the maggregor made such a statement - if the forecast does not come true before February XNUMX, XNUMX (almost two months!) in such a spirit.
  5. Leshak
    Leshak 30 December 2022 14: 52
    +1
    Perhaps, for the first time, I agree with the American talking head. I think his thoughts are very close to the truth.
  6. invisible_man
    invisible_man 30 December 2022 14: 52
    +1
    Something everyone got into the habit of quoting this pensioner. Does it warm your soul?
    1. Vladimir80
      Vladimir80 30 December 2022 15: 00
      +4
      the statements of such "experts" warm the soul of the majority of citizens, calm them down, allow them to remain captive to illusions ... because. "forecasts" do not actually come true, then the media came up with the idea of ​​changing the top "experts" every one or two months, ordinary people today do not have a sharp memory - and they forget what the "experts" "predicted" a month or two ago ...
      ps it remotely reminds me of the hobby (stupefaction, obscurantism) of our population in the 90s. astrological forecasts, every day there were new ones on TV and in newspapers
  7. Codett
    Codett 30 December 2022 14: 55
    -2
    Wars are not won from defense, so while there is no offensive by our troops, we can talk about the defeat of the Ukroreich
    it’s premature, although it’s possible that the Ministry of Regroupings and Goodwill Gestures will be able to do something; in the end, 10 months have already passed, some conclusions have probably been made, in addition to re-sticking nameplates from foreign UAVs, you finally look and we’ll actually see modern equipment in the troops in commercial quantities, and not only in the imagination of our minister, well, it is possible that our industry will be revived, and not foreign
    1. Ghost1
      Ghost1 30 December 2022 16: 42
      +1
      Apparently, the rate went to positional battles in the hope that during this period there may be the possibility of negotiations and agreements.
      But, as always, there is hope for HPP, but what if.
    2. isv000
      isv000 30 December 2022 17: 08
      0
      Quote: Codett
      Wars are not won from defense, so while there is no offensive by our troops, we can talk about the defeat of the Ukroreich

      Have you already tightened the belts before the forced march?
      1. Apprentice_SAM
        Apprentice_SAM 30 December 2022 17: 37
        0
        Have you already tightened the belts before the forced march?


        Well no. For now, he is rewinding footcloths. From nick to nick, like from foot to foot.
  8. Tagan
    Tagan 30 December 2022 15: 11
    +1
    Quote: BIABIA
    Yes Yes. In the meantime, the Russian army is digging in and preparing for defense by setting up anti-tank guns on the border of the Belgorod region.

    Well, what are you so worried about? The enemy must understand that it will not work in a swoop already. Every time I leave the city I see how the so-called "dragon's teeth" are being transported. And what's next?
    1. BIABIA
      BIABIA 30 December 2022 15: 22
      +2
      And I'm not worried. I'm just stating a fact. I also see how they are driven. Along the Moscow Ring Road and Semfiropolka. Who would have said about this in February-March. And then an American colonel writes about the defeat of the APU. So far, there are no signs of this.
  9. Tagan
    Tagan 30 December 2022 15: 19
    +1
    Quote: credo
    And there is also an opinion that by supplying the very first and oldest Patriot, the Yankees want to test the operation of the system on it in action and in conflict with such a technologically advanced adversary as Russia.
    So Douglas' opinion is not the only and most correct one. smile

    With a technologically underdeveloped enemy, it didn’t work out very well (when defending Saudi Aramco, for example). And then there is a chance to completely lose face.))
    1. voyaka uh
      voyaka uh 30 December 2022 22: 29
      -2
      Patriot is the equivalent of the S-300.
      Aircraft at high and medium altitude shoot down perfectly.
      BR - with varying degrees of success.
      Everything is like the S-300.
  10. Mint Gingerbread
    Mint Gingerbread 30 December 2022 16: 33
    -2
    One thing is clear, it's only a matter of time before the US itself gets drawn into this conflict.
  11. Ghost1
    Ghost1 30 December 2022 16: 38
    +1
    I would consider this as just a private opinion of a retired military man.
  12. Junkman George
    Junkman George 30 December 2022 16: 43
    +1
    Frankly, I *think* there are 2 things going on. Firstly, Russia has managed to almost totally disarm Europe, and the West, as almost everything, not nailed down, has been sent to Ukraine. Secondly, the Ukraine hasn't much of an economy left, yet seems to require about 10 Billion a month to keep playing along, we'll see how long the West caqn keep up that payment.
    1. D16
      D16 30 December 2022 18: 41
      0
      This is a long game. it will cost us a lot, too. The whole world pays these 10 billion. Partly we are.
  13. kalikin_vn
    kalikin_vn 30 December 2022 18: 06
    -1
    You mean a farewell gift before defeat? But what about "the world hangs with us", "the USA will not leave us" and numerous news, like the USA, the EU and everyone say that Russia has already lost and even the Russian Federation understood this? It turns out ukrosmi again deceived?
  14. Fizik13
    Fizik13 30 December 2022 18: 22
    -2
    Former Pentagon adviser called Patriot deliveries to Kyiv a farewell gesture before the defeat of the Armed Forces of Ukraine

    Tobish scribe America ....
  15. runway-1
    runway-1 30 December 2022 18: 38
    0
    The retired US military has repeatedly stressed that, in his opinion, Ukraine will inevitably be defeated in an armed conflict with Russia, and no support from Western allies can save the country.
    He also added that the main part of the military equipment supplied to Kyiv is outdated and not adapted to modern conditions of warfare, and the supply of NATO equipment turns Ukrainian troops into a kaleidoscope, the appearance of which changes almost weekly.
    This "expert" is not a double of some of the local authors and commentators by any chance?! winked
  16. Igor Smirnov
    Igor Smirnov 31 December 2022 03: 47
    -2
    A typical disinformation from all sorts of soothsayer colonels there, ala-ulya "The Russian Armed Forces will take Kyiv in 3-4 days - I swear by my mother!" Listen to these "foretellers" and do the opposite. so much so that Putin had to announce the next comprehensive transformations in the army, because it is already obvious to everyone that the RF Armed Forces at the moment are no longer capable of anything serious even in a deaf strategic defense. And the modernization of the army cannot be carried out as soon as possible. So that's all can take a very long time.
  17. Ivanushka Ivanov
    Ivanushka Ivanov 1 January 2023 13: 59
    0
    There is not a single American talking head that says something without a definite intent.
    The defeat of the Ukrainians was talked about directly or indirectly, with reservations - but only after the start of strikes on the energy sector.
    And indeed, everything slowed down there, the sharpness disappeared, the society began to get tired sharply, radicalism was replaced by despondency... it is already obvious now...

    This post of a former adviser is calculated on the fact that when this happens - and this will happen, most likely, not on the battlefields, but due to the complete collapse of the outskirts as a state system ...
    So, to the question: why didn’t they win before the collapse?
    And here comes the justification: they say, outdated weapons. Cleans up the image costs of America.

    Lying (they all lie by definition, or rather by nature) an acidic gelding. The first is an order of magnitude cooler than himars - the most up-to-date intelligence from pintossny online. We will not list here the entire line of modern weapons (including all kinds of unmanned aerial vehicles) that our "partners" brought in abundance ... but it either did not go in, or turned out to be much worse than Soviet models in all respects, or, if it showed good performance on ranges with a limited number of shots, then in practice it breaks down quite quickly.

    So far, this is what happens with regards to the capabilities of the Russian army: the Russians obviously overestimated its capabilities - "because 80% are new weapons that do not have ...". But nya - clearly critically underestimated. First of all, air defense and electronic warfare. Yes, for dust in the eyes they praised us, but among themselves, apparently, they considered our army to be completely sham.
  18. StarWarrior
    StarWarrior 4 January 2023 14: 42
    0
    No need to flatter yourself - the United States can still put a lot of things unpleasant for the Russian Federation on Ukraine.
    Ukrainians are not over yet.