Ukrainian resources: Today, missile strikes purposefully destroy air defense command posts and radar stations of air defense systems of the Armed Forces of Ukraine

Ukrainian sources of information report that one of the waves of Russian missile attacks that are being carried out today is directed against Ukraine's air defense system.

The reports say that "air defense command posts and radar stations of anti-aircraft missile systems of the Armed Forces of Ukraine are being deliberately destroyed."

From the statements of Ukrainian sources:

At the same time, launchers are not always hit. After the destruction of the command post and the radar, the launchers lose their ability to effectively destroy air targets.

Meanwhile, the mayors of Ukrainian cities have confirmed a total of at least 20 explosions. It's official. So, the mayor of Lviv, Sadovy, wrote on the net that several objects in the city and its environs were attacked, without saying which specific objects were in question. At the same time, the residents of the Lviv region themselves report in public about a powerful arrival in one of the military units. According to some information, this is one of those military facilities where several Western-made air defense systems were recently delivered and where several hundred Ukrainian military trained on the territory of NATO training grounds arrived.

It is noteworthy that the head of President Zelensky’s office, Andriy Yermak, who is hiding deeper underground, commented on today’s missile strikes with a set of so-called “emoji” (pictures for social networks and instant messengers), including a pig nose, a muscular arm and the flag of Ukraine…

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[Mihail0221]

Meanwhile, the mayors of Ukrainian cities have confirmed a total of at least 20 explosions. It's official

Here is your air defense. sieve...

[Foul skeptic]

air defense command posts and radar stations of anti-aircraft missile systems of the Armed Forces of Ukraine are purposefully destroyed

At 10 months of warfare?
Now non-Estonians will be the heroes of jokes.

[incognoto]

Better late than never, that's the reality..

[nik-mazur]

Quote: Nefarious skeptic

At 10 months of warfare?

The air defense that was in Ukraine at the beginning of the war, ours carried out in the first month by 80 percent. And now they are destroying what the UkroPVOshniks managed to restore, accumulate and beg after the destruction of pre-war stocks - the remnants of the S-300 and Bukov, as well as all sorts of Irises, Nassams, Cheetahs and other zoo, collected from the world by thread.

[2 Level Advisor]

and our Air Force - after the destruction of 80% of air defense - simply did not want to fly over Ukraine with the remnants of air defense in 20% in some places, or did the command forbid them, what do you think? this is a logical question if 80% of the air defense was destroyed in March .. and how did the remaining 20% ​​manage to survive - before the start of deliveries from the west, in the summer? (P.S. AWACS flew already in February)

[nik-mazur]

Quote: Level 2 Advisor

and our Air Force - after the destruction of 80% of air defense - simply did not want to fly over Ukraine with the remnants of air defense in 20%

The remnants of the UkrPVO are not capable of fully fulfilling their tasks of covering objects, but they may well sit in ambush, hoping to launch a rocket after the aircraft that completed the task and quickly dump it. If there are no other options, then you can put up with losses, but why the heck risk people and equipment if you can not do this? Ours are not at risk.
What would you do if you were in command?
By the way, AWACS have a range of up to 400 km, that is, flying along the borders of Poland and Romania, they can look at the maximum to Kyiv, Krivoy Rog and Kakhovka. Which, however, does not particularly save from missile strikes.

[bayard]

Quote from: nik-mazur

By the way, AWACS have a range of up to 400 km, that is, flying along the borders of Poland and Romania, they can look at the maximum to Kyiv, Krivoy Rog and Kakhovka.

It all depends on the height of the target and its RCS. Aircraft modernized by AWACS (and they were all modernized) are seen at 650 km. (at medium and high altitudes). They see low-altitude targets and CD at 400 - 450 km.

Quote from: nik-mazur

The remnants of dill air defense are not able to fully fulfill their tasks of covering objects, but they may well sit in ambush

They almost immediately switched to the "ambush" mode according to AWACS target designation, but nevertheless their air defense was taken out, and most actively in the first one and a half to two months. All the on-duty RTV air defense equipment, the old (albeit partially modernized) S-125 systems were completely taken out, but the S-300 and Bukami-M1 had to be hunted for a long time, and even now some of them remain. The old Soviet Wasps, Strela-10 (of which there were a lot), and more advanced Torahs brought trouble and work.
Now they have no more than 6 S-300 divisions left (out of those available on 24.02.2022/XNUMX/XNUMX), and even then after today there are probably fewer of them, perhaps several Buk ... and import. As well as a huge number of MANPADS and anti-aircraft artillery.
The Armed Forces of the Russian Federation greatly underestimated the state and density of the air defense of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, because all 8 years were not spent in vain - 31 S-300 divisions were restored and even modernized, almost all Buk-M1, military air defense air defense systems, communications and combat control. False targets were set ahead of time, and the ZRV almost immediately switched to the "from ambush by external target designation" mode of operation. Almost all aviation of the Armed Forces of Ukraine was withdrawn from attack, and old decommissioned aircraft hulls were put up at the airfields.
So it can be stated that the Armed Forces of Ukraine were preparing for the war and did not waste time in vain, and now, when the Soviet stocks and means are mostly knocked out, and the supply of missiles is running out, Western air defense systems have already gone to replenish them. And it will and can be so for a long, very long time, until the human and material resources of the opposing sides are completely depleted ... if the b\d do not become more dynamic and decisive.
And of course, without Western supplies and all-round support for the Armed Forces of Ukraine and the Kyiv regime, they would have collapsed long ago, back in the summer. But we are at war not only with the Armed Forces of Ukraine. And therefore the nature and pace of the war will be dictated by no means only by the state of the Armed Forces of Ukraine. In fact, this is not yet a war, the real war is yet to come.

[Osipov9391]

Transport aircraft of the Air Force of the Armed Forces of Ukraine are not among the destroyed / captured, except for isolated cases of faulty junk.
All flying Il-76s and ANs (there were even An-124s) moved to Europe in mid-February and now live there. They carry goods to Poland from England and other places.

[Osipov9391]

Have you forgotten the AWACS in the Zmeinogo-Vilkovo area?
From there they see the whole Crimea, up to the Zaporozhye region.
Do not forget that AWACS can work over the Black Sea and Georgia
in the Krasnodar Territory.

[nik-mazur]

Quote: Osipov9391

Have you forgotten the AWACS in the Zmeinogo-Vilkovo area?

In the Crimea, as well as in the Krasnodar Territory, UkroPVO does not work even with AWACS, even without them ...

[Tank destroyerSU-100]

The answer about the "destroyed air defense" is that our Air Force practically does not fly beyond the line of contact. And the main type of air support is NUR launches from a cabriolet somewhere in the direction of the positions of the Wehrmacht's coming out. I hope there is no need to explain what is the "accuracy" of such fire support?

[Herman 4223]

Many even old Soviet complexes have optical means for guidance. Even the S-125 possesses them, the complex does not give itself away in any way, but a rocket suddenly takes off from the ground and rushes to the plane. S-125 in Ukraine before the war was actively restored and modernized. Yes, it is not so easy for our pilots to act there as it seems. Aristovich said before the war that there are 51 air defense divisions in Ukraine, if at least 10% is preserved, then it is still dangerous.

[nik-mazur]

Quote: Tank DestroyerSU-100

I hope there is no need to explain what is the "accuracy" of such fire support?

I would be interested to get acquainted. So please explain. Preferably with numbers, and not at the level of many / few, good / bad.

[Olezhek]

Air defense, which was in Ukraine at the beginning of the war, ours took out 80 percent in the first month.

Judging by Konashenkov - even more.

[nik-mazur]

Quote: Olezhek

According to Konashenkov

If you really thought, you would not blurt out such nonsense. According to our reports, about 400 air defense systems were destroyed. Despite the fact that shortly before the start of the war, Arestovich boasted that in Ukraine there are only S-300s - 50 divisions, and these are 600 launchers. It is clear that he was talking and it was unlikely that there were so many, especially in working order, but there is nothing implausible in our reports.
But if you evaluate at the level of female logic, when purely emotional assessments are used instead of numbers, many / few, and much means everything and always, and little means nothing and never, then your point of view has the right to exist.

[Olezhek]

If you really thought, then you would not blurt out such nonsense

I say, I don't think, I believe in the word. Konashenkov. What's wrong?

[nik-mazur]

Quote: Olezhek

I believe in the word. Konashenkov

Faith, what specific words inspired you to write your comment?
What you don’t think (and don’t think) is understandable.

[Xnumx vis]

Quote from: nik-mazur

What you don’t think (and don’t think) is understandable.

[Tank destroyerSU-100]

The answer to your maxims is very simple: where and when our aviation did not strike at the Wehrmacht's coming out, similarly to the strikes at the "barmaley" in Syria, when entire groups of Tu-22M3 and Su-24 would dump 500-kg placers on the heads of the coming out Nazis bombs? Yes, even for video. It is unlikely that anyone will remember such an episode.
Personally, I remember that once a single Tu-22M3 appeared over Mariupol, and even then, when the city was already out of reach for the Buk and S-300 air defense systems.

[nik-mazur]

Quote: Tank DestroyerSU-100

where and when our aviation did not strike at the Wehrmacht's coming out, similarly to strikes at the "barmaley" in Syria

Among the barmaleys in Syria, all air defense systems were limited to machine guns. The Ukrainian army, albeit in minimal quantities, still has more or less modern air defense systems. There are few of them, they are not capable of performing tasks of full-fledged cover for objects, but they can shoot down a plane from an ambush, and ours take this into account. Different situations, different tactics.
Or do you propose to flood Ukraine with FABs, regardless of losses, just for the sake of whistleblowers at TopWar having something to talk about?

[Herman 4223]

SAM is a loose concept. If you take a wasp or a tunguska, then there is an entire air defense system on one machine, if a beech, then there an air defense system is the entire division. The launcher in the S-300 is not a complex, but an element of the complex.
Konashenkov most likely does not lie, but simply does not describe in great detail. Most of the destroyed complexes are one hundred percent, arrows, wasps and the like. Some of it is definitely a scam.

[nik-mazur]

Quote: Herman 4223

Most of the destroyed complexes are one hundred percent, arrows, wasps and the like.

As far as I understand, individual vehicles are considered, and it’s launchers, a radar station or a whole complex, like the Tunguska, that’s another question.
In any case, the losses of dill air defense are catastrophic. At the same time, the remnants still pose a danger, despite the fact that they are not able to fulfill their direct duties. You can, of course, point your finger and tryndet that ours could not, but you can soberly think about the question, but who could? Who and when faced with the task of suppressing not single air defense systems, like Yugoslavia or Iraq, but with a more or less numerous and almost modern system and successfully solved it? So far, no one has ever. That's when there are precedents, then it will be possible to compare and evaluate how successfully our army coped with the task of suppressing air defense ...

[savage3000]

Yes, of course, dream. That's why our aviation is clinging to the ground all its own, where the MANPADS

[mikh-korsakov]

No need to offend the Estonians - they have nothing to do with it. At present, our missilemen are working against air defense systems constantly supplied to Ukraine by its allies. The air defense systems that were at the disposal of Ukraine before the start of the NMD were hit at its beginning. The proof is that at the beginning of the operation, our planes flew around Ukraine almost "with impunity." - Yes, there were incidents, such as with a dead general, but rarely.

[Ded60]

".... among which is a pig snout ..." - and here he got out)))

[incognoto]

it means there will be something serious in the near future ... I think attempt number 2))

[Valery Rodionov]

In some TG I recently read about the planned increase at times in the use of free-falling bombs. Maybe for this they are cleaning up the ground so as not to disturb our pilots once again? ...

[incognoto]

it’s hard for me to comment on this, as for me we won’t achieve much with free-falling bombs alone ..

[engineer74]

Quote from incoggnoto

it’s hard for me to comment on this, as for me we won’t achieve much with free-falling bombs alone ..

"Not everything is so simple!" ©
In Tokyo and Dresden, some results were achieved without guided bombs...
This is not a call, this is justice.

[Jackyun]

"The head of President Zelensky's office, Andriy Yermak, who is hiding deeper underground, commented on today's missile strikes with a set of so-called "emoji" (pictures for social networks and instant messengers), including a pig's snout, a muscular arm and the flag of Ukraine..." This should be understood as a muscular arm hits a patch that wipes bloody snot with the flag of Ukraine?

[Uprun]

Alternatively, a pig from the outskirts on asteroids.

[Thrifty]

The number of missiles they shot down is probably approaching a hundred on social networks, with 20 launched

[incognoto]

this is an information policy, moreover, it works. and people really think that their air defense shoots down virtually everything that flies .. and if anyone doubts, they either receive summons or disappear ..

[husband]

The beech hit a rocket - that means it shot down. Even if the rocket itself flew to Buk. Then it means heroically shot down, at the cost of his life.

[alexey_444]

Why is the Soviet one spent at the start, it will break or end on its own, the Western one will be more interesting, training to open air defense from it

[Nikolay310]

why spend money on the old Soviet ...
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Well, maybe so that planes and helicopters do not shoot down, so that pilots and navigators do not die?

oh yeah, no loss...

[Bingo]

Well, the campaign, dill with their owners mattresses - totally screwed up by installing modern air defense. The bottom line is, modern air defense, such as the same Iris, is out of place for it to be reasonably ... criticized as it was burned in the first raid))) So they covered it. And if they covered it, the radars are constantly working, and not as before - the mattresses reported that a Russian plane was flying there, they turned on the radar on the way, launched it, turned it off. And the working radar is a target)))
Here's the choice - either immediately overdue ... eat food products instead of modern Western air defense, or give air defense workers for execution - any option suits us

[Olezhek]

Well, hike, dill with their owners mattresses - totally screwed up

Report this to the residents of Russian Kherson
Preferably in person

[Bingo]

As soon as I tell the residents of Ukrainian Mariupol, I'll do it right away. And we evacuated the Russian inhabitants of Russian Kherson - and tell the Ukrainian inhabitants of Ukrainian yourself why there was light and water under the shelling of Russians, but under the occupiers in trousers and with a mattress flag - no

[Olezhek]

we evacuated the Russian inhabitants of Russian Kherson -

Did you do it personally?
Did you personally shoot down bayraktars in batches too?
Tell us about your unparalleled exploits.
Do not be shy.

[Xnumx vis]

Quote: Olezhek

we evacuated the Russian inhabitants of Russian Kherson -

Did you do it personally?
Did you personally shoot down bayraktars in batches too?
Tell us about your unparalleled exploits.
Do not be shy.

No one is embarrassed of you .. You are an olEzhek .. for a krizhopel.

[Vana Catu]

Neither yellow-black pig hands, nor any Western weapons will help you. All this will be planned.
and methodically destroyed.

[Got it]

It is very nice to read such news. It would be even nicer to read them earlier! I also want to read about the total destruction of the routes for the supply of Western aid, I hope this opportunity will fall soon

[Tagan]

Quote: A vile skeptic

air defense command posts and radar stations of anti-aircraft missile systems of the Armed Forces of Ukraine are purposefully destroyed

At 10 months of warfare?
Now non-Estonians will be the heroes of jokes.

Apparently you personally could direct the situation in a different direction. What resource of strategists and ready-made commanders-in-chief is disappearing.

[Nikolay310]

but the resource of dirty lickers ... power is not exhausted (may the moderators forgive me)

[Ded60]

Another ".... among which is a pig snout ...." The door to the barn opened))

[Foul skeptic]

Apparently you personally could direct the situation in a different direction. What resource of strategists and ready-made commanders-in-chief is disappearing.

Yes, who knows. Just that everyone should be in their place. Which should be determined by competence (which is a derivative of the applied efforts), and not by appointment. This is already from the category of questions to conscience.
PS Just put aside Rendulich's Command and Control, which he wanted to re-read in connection with the current moment, which has been going on since February. Refresh memory, draw parallels, compare examples. Do you think I have more questions than I received answers?

[Andy_nsk]

Wet them guys! Good luck in this noble cause!

[Boniface]

Official message of the Russian Ministry of Defense.

[Olezhek]

Never say never... ......

[Normal]

What have you lost here, hard worker tsipso? You made a mistake with the sites, you are on the censor, and yes, you are not welcome here.

[Olezhek]

What have you lost here, hard worker tsipso?

I certainly understand that the intelligence of professional patriots is slightly limited.
But damn that poster (and others like it) was far from put up by CIPSO ...
and sho?

[Normal]

Iodine-deficient, do you need to talk about intelligence when your brothers have been doing all your independence for 30 years that they are burning tires and jumping. Can you tell me how to get to the Gilyak, I'm just from the capital of the country, your worst nightmares. Tell me, iodine deficiency. Where are you scribbling from, Kazakhstan or Georgia? You seem to be having an electrical problem right now. By the way, I noticed how bad your affairs are and how close your big ass is, you abruptly begin to seep into our resources to bring confusion and sow doubts. So, iodine-deficient, nothing works out for you, even here, you are calculated for one or two.

See iodine deficiency for your spelling
Olezhek
Today, 13: 30
NEW

-1
Nor yellow-black pig hands,

Novels walk ... about lyuboFF

And you're still talking about the intellect, tsipsoshny werewolf, writing "peshite"?
Got away from the big top?))))))

[nik-mazur]

Quote: Olezhek

the intelligence of professional patriots is slightly limited

Yes, it's not evening yet. Or do you think it's already over? What does your unpatriotic, unprofessional and unlimited intellect think about this - Ukraine in Kherson forever, as in the Crimea, Donbass and Mariupol?

[Prokop_Pork]

In essence, do the cheers-Kremlebots have something to object to? I would say that they were not in Kherson and Izyum, and the posters are fake.

[tihonmarine]

Quote: Olezhek

Never say never..

"Send a wise one - say one word, send a fool - say, and follow him yourself."

[Xnumx vis]

Quote: Olezhek

Never say never... ......

Friendly Olezhka ... Kherson was founded by Russia! Russia has built, Russia has returned, Russia will return.. But where will you and your banderosvidoukry be? Maybe in the damp earth, maybe weeding carrots in Poland at Paniv Polyakov.

[Mavrikiy]

After the destruction of the command post and the radar, the launchers lose their ability to effectively destroy air targets.

Let network-centric games use.

[Incvizitor]

It is very similar to preparations for a big offensive, I hope it will begin in the new year and I hope there will be no lisping like the locals and their brothers.

[ratoborets]

At the moment, the ground is not frozen enough for an offensive. In Kyiv, on Sunday for the New Year, they generally promise +11.
Most likely, they will wait until it freezes well. I hope January will be cold.

[APASUS]

When will Russian assistance in the decommunization of Ukraine affect hydroelectric power stations, bridges, railway stations and sorting?

[Prokop_Pork]

This is a discovery in military science: it turns out that first you need to suppress air defense.

[Tank destroyerSU-100]

Quote from: nik-mazur

Quote: Olezhek

According to Konashenkov

If you really thought, you would not blurt out such nonsense. According to our reports, about 400 air defense systems were destroyed. Despite the fact that shortly before the start of the war, Arestovich boasted that in Ukraine there are only S-300s - 50 divisions, and these are 600 launchers. It is clear that he was talking and it was unlikely that there were so many, especially in working order, but there is nothing implausible in our reports.
But if you evaluate at the level of female logic, when purely emotional assessments are used instead of numbers, many / few, and much means everything and always, and little means nothing and never, then your point of view has the right to exist.

The fact that the Wehrmacht’s air defense is still alive, despite Konashenkov’s peppy reports, confirms one single fact: neither the Tu-22M3 nor the Su-24/34 dare to arrange ostentatious bombing a la Syria. And if the Su-34s are bombed, then only from extremely low altitudes and with one, at most two, aircraft.
So the air defense of the Ukro-Wehrmacht fulfilled its task ON THE BATTLE FIELD - it did not allow our aviation to gain air supremacy and mercilessly and continuously torment the ground forces of the Ukro-Wehrmacht, as did the pin.dos aviation in Iraq, or NATO aviation in Libya. The unhindered concentration and maneuvering of the Wehrmacht's groups coming out in their rear throughout the entire NWO is a confirmation of this.

[nik-mazur]

Quote: Tank DestroyerSU-100

The air defense of the Wehrmacht has fulfilled its task ON THE BATTLE FIELD - it did not allow our aviation to gain air supremacy

Air supremacy is "the decisive air superiority of one of the belligerents in the airspace in the theater of operations." Do you really think that Russian aviation does not have decisive superiority in Ukrainian airspace?
And the task of air defense, in fact, is that the objects covered by it would not be hit by air strikes. And, bombs or rockets - it does not matter. And if you think that nothing threatens Ukrainian facilities, then I have bad news for you. Especially taking into account the fact that now is not the middle of the twentieth century and throwing bombs from an airplane is far from the only way to get the enemy, even in the rear, even at the forefront. What our army demonstrates ...

[FoBoss_VM]

Am I the only one who thinks this is preparation for a massive offensive?