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Russian promising T-14 Armata tanks spotted in the special operation zone

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Russian promising T-14 Armata tanks spotted in the special operation zone

Video of the combat coordination of the newest crews tanks T-14 "Armata" appeared on Russian Internet resources. As stated, the tanks are located in the rear areas of the special military operation zone.


The fact that Russian T-14 "Armata" tanks are in the NVO zone was reported by Russian TV presenter and journalist Vladimir Solovyov, who visited the front line. It was Solovyov's team who filmed the combat coordination of the crews of T-14 tanks in the Donbass. Prior to this, the latest tanks were seen at the training ground near Kazan, where the mobilized were trained.

I am returning from another trip to the front line with the first shots of the combat coordination of the crews of the T-14 Armata tanks, a lot of material about the soldiers of the Akhmat Special Forces, under the command of the Hero of Russia Apti Alaudinov, and a story about the operation of a unique MTO train

- Solovyov wrote in his TG channel.


To date, T-14 "Armata" tanks have not taken part in combat operations in the special operation zone, at least there have been no reports in this regard. Firstly, the tank is very expensive, the cost is said to be around 350 million rubles, which is seven times more expensive than the upgraded T-72B3. Secondly, the appearance of these tanks at the front will attract the closest attention to them, up to attempts to take possession of this equipment.

On the other hand, running a promising tank in combat conditions is worth a lot.

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  1. svp67
    svp67 25 December 2022 13: 19
    +76
    It is interesting if, before the first use of "Tigers" or "ISs", this would also have been reported ... the correspondent would have lived for a long time
    1. Herman 4223
      Herman 4223 25 December 2022 13: 25
      +13
      The correspondent probably took a long time, but the one who made the show to this correspondent did not.
      1. Mikhail Krivopalov
        Mikhail Krivopalov 25 December 2022 13: 31
        +21
        Well, it's a pure coincidence that Solovyov and his film crew ended up "at the front in the rear" (whatever this phrase means), and then they were lucky to shoot Armata. Now the enemy trolls will not be able to shout with impunity "where is the new equipment !?", because the patriot will be able to immediately refer to this video! !
        1. Shurik70
          Shurik70 25 December 2022 13: 39
          +41
          Judging by the fact that there is a video from the driver's hatch, the leak was made on purpose.
          Well, if the truth is allowed to the front, then only as part of a major offensive operation. So that a sufficiently large group is at hand, capable of recapturing the tank if it is knocked out and falls into the hands of the enemy.
          And since now, it seems, the command of large operations is not planning - the enemy is simply exhausted and slowly crushed where it gives in, there will be no Armata at the front in the near future
          1. Nag1984
            Nag1984 25 December 2022 17: 27
            -5
            Fight off the tank while killing people?)) Why Karl? If he was sent into battle and put on a series, then they know that the tank can be hit or captured by the enemy, and there is nothing fundamentally secret there anymore.
            1. nemez
              nemez 26 December 2022 07: 36
              +4
              And why did saboteurs die during the Second World War, destroying BM-13s that fell to the enemy?
              1. Deon59
                Deon59 26 December 2022 09: 03
                -8
                And that BM 13 was secret. It's just that everything was classified in our country.
                1. Parvis rasulov
                  Parvis rasulov 26 December 2022 17: 59
                  +1
                  There was nothing secret in BM 13, and the most secret was not in the machine itself, but in the technology for creating beam powder charges a meter long.
                  1. Havoc
                    Havoc 26 December 2022 23: 12
                    0
                    Quote: Parvis Rasulov
                    There was nothing secret in BM 13, and the most secret was not in the machine itself, but in the technology for creating beam powder charges a meter long.

                    You are absolutely right, but it is probably difficult for minusers to rummage through the Internet, and there are pictures of installations captured by the Germans. And most of the photo installations with shells
              2. aglet
                aglet 26 December 2022 13: 39
                +2
                "And why did saboteurs die during the Second World War, destroying BM-13s that got to the enemy?"
                You've seen feature films. but it was necessary to look at photos and newsreels with abandoned BM-13s in order to beat them off - no saboteurs would be enough
            2. Alex92
              Alex92 26 December 2022 10: 13
              -1
              The Germans almost gave us the "Tiger" in 1942, at the first use of these tanks, they also undermined, risking the lives of soldiers. Fools and gouging?)
              1. aglet
                aglet 26 December 2022 13: 40
                +4
                "The Germans almost gave us the "Tiger" in 1942, at the first use of these tanks, they also undermined the lives of soldiers at the risk. Fools and gouges?)"
                no one undermined them, they were captured almost intact - one was damaged by artillery, the second got stuck in a swamp. and why undermine them, a specialist can judge the essence of things from the wreckage
          2. PROXOR
            PROXOR 26 December 2022 11: 05
            0
            This was not filmed by a driver. And not from the driver's hatch. This was filmed by the commander of the car.
        2. Grandfather
          Grandfather 25 December 2022 13: 40
          -17
          Quote: Mikhail Krivopalov
          Well, it's a pure coincidence that Solovyov and his film crew ended up "at the front in the rear" (whatever this phrase means), and then they were lucky to shoot Armata. Now the enemy trolls will not be able to shout with impunity "where is the new equipment !?", because the patriot will be able to immediately refer to this video! !
          there is nothing even to add ... except perhaps (brackets) or "quotes" for the word "petriot".
          1. Alekseev
            Alekseev 25 December 2022 15: 32
            +28
            ,,... screaming with impunity, where is the new technology !?"
            For some civilians, the lack of Armat and other "super-duper" new technology is the main reason for the prolongation of hostilities and tactical failures.
            But it's not. The main reason that the war is still going on is a political miscalculation. They pinned the dill to pinch with the peacetime army in terms of numbers, and even not ideal in terms of l / s quality. They thought: a tree will be shaken, but it, rotten, will fall by itself. But the tree propped up the west and the number of stubborn Ukrainians (and simply passive ones) turned out to be more than expected ....
            But .... If there were not a sufficient number of effective weapons systems, then the dill would not have needed to carry out waves of mobilizations and switch to NATO equipment because there were almost no former Soviet weapons left. wink
            New weapons and military equipment, including Armats, of course, will go to the front, but strengthening order and discipline, improving the combat skills of both officers and soldiers is no less important.
            No new technology will be effective if there are facts of abandoned, almost intact weapons, such as the Ka-52 near Gostomel and the T-90M in the Kharkov region.
            Armata, of course, is important and needs to be tested in battle. But this is not a child prodigy at all compared to the same T-90M. A cannon of the same caliber, slightly better ballistics and ammunition, and if it hits a mine or gets a couple of javelins, then both
            at the very least, repairs are required. Only the T-90 or T-72, almost always, can be shamanized in the rembat, but where is the Armata? In Tagil? And not because the Armata has such poor maintainability, it’s just that it’s still a “piece goods”. And in war, a mass series is needed, albeit a little easier than the "wonder weapon" of the future.
            1. svoroponov
              svoroponov 25 December 2022 18: 00
              +7
              Its appearance is probably planned as a response to the appearance of Western tanks such as Leclerc, Leopard and Abrams. Now the T-90 has started to cope very well, and other tanks are not bad. The merits of the crews in skillful application.
            2. hector
              hector 25 December 2022 18: 11
              +4
              Quote: Alekseev
              For some civilians, the lack of Armat and other "super-duper" new technology is the main reason for the prolongation of hostilities and tactical failures.
              But it's not. The main reason that the war is still going on is a political miscalculation.

              At the "Soloviev Evening" Rodion Miroshnik, to the question "Why did not the shelling of Donetsk stop and the delivery routes are not destroyed?", Answered - "This is not a technical problem"
            3. Vita vko
              Vita vko 25 December 2022 18: 20
              +6
              Quote: Alekseev
              political miscalculation

              This is not a miscalculation and it is not a mistake of the required forces and means of the SVO. The problem lies in the incorrect assessment of the consequences of psychological treatment or zombies of the Ukrainian people. And in Russia until now, there is a political setting of non-interference in the internal affairs of other countries. And as you know, "a holy place is never empty." Moreover, the Russian leadership still recognizes the legitimacy of the Zelensky regime despite all the crimes and terror of the civilian population. He and his surroundings remain inviolable.
              If the Kyiv regime was recognized as terrorist, the war would end much faster than Syria. There, when Damascus was surrounded by terrorists in 15, the situation was much worse. But the destruction of the leaders of the terrorists, the isolation of financial and oil channels for their supply quickly led to negotiations and stabilization of the situation.
              But in Ukraine the situation is exactly the opposite. Despite everything, the Russian government is striving to expand economic cooperation with Ukrainian criminals, gas supplies continue, grain deals, etc. There is no question of any isolation of the combat area. An attempt at a partial energy blockade is a weak attempt at informational isolation. But even this shows a high effect.
            4. savage3000
              savage3000 26 December 2022 02: 13
              +2
              In theory, the Armata has an active defense complex against anti-tank missiles. So stugnas and other javelins should not get into it
            5. Andrey1978
              Andrey1978 26 December 2022 05: 06
              0
              Agree completely. I watched a scientific adversary channel about WWII tanks. The main reason for the failure of German cars was their manufacturability, which required service engineers and special equipment. Everything is clear, millimeter by millimeter ... The current during the database and far from the incubator factory sites, all this is unrealistic. What can not be said about our tanks, where the tank crew could independently fix the breakdowns. The same tactics in the KamAZ Master team, to Dakar. Only our crew changed the cylinder head gasket without the help of a technician
              1. Reader 2013
                Reader 2013 26 December 2022 12: 03
                +3
                There is only a nameplate from KAMAZ, the engine is far from Russian there, Cummings is American there
                1. Alexander I
                  Alexander I 26 December 2022 16: 36
                  +5
                  until 2010, the YaMZ 18,5-liter V8 unit was on the racing trucks, and after that the team switched to the TMZ engine with a capacity of 850 hp, but even here the gentlemen changed the rules))) by reducing the requirement for the volume of the engine, that's when the Chinese appeared Cummins ISZ-13 engine.
                  Release from the KamazMaster team:
                  Often the layman wonders why such a giant as KAMAZ cannot make an engine himself? The main reason is that according to the rules of racing, the engine must be serial. That is, it is not enough to make an engine - it still needs to be put into mass production for civilian trucks, which costs enormous costs and efforts. And given the fact that the requirements of the organizers of the competition have changed four times in 10 years (!), This idea becomes meaningless
      2. YOUR
        YOUR 25 December 2022 14: 05
        +2
        It’s hard for me to imagine that in those days such information appeared in the media.
      3. carpenter
        carpenter 25 December 2022 14: 14
        +4
        Quote: Herman 4223
        The correspondent probably took a long time, but the one who made the show to this correspondent did not.

        Both received the same (the article says "for disclosure"), but more loyally than we think:
        On November 15, 1943, by the Decree of the Presidium of the Supreme Soviet of the USSR, responsibility was increased for the disclosure of information constituting a state secret (punishment increased to 10 years in prison). And this is two and a half years after the beginning of the Second World War.
        Although no one canceled 58-1a. Treason to the Motherland, i.e. actions committed by citizens of the USSR to the detriment of the military power of the USSR, its state independence or the inviolability of its territory, such as: espionage, disclosure of military or state secrets, defection to the enemy, flight or flight abroad,
        are punishable by the highest measure of criminal punishment - by shooting with confiscation of all property,

        Now there is also a war, and the criminals live abroad, the war will end and they will not return, but they will not receive punishment.
    2. Romanenko
      Romanenko 25 December 2022 13: 28
      +15
      The profession of a correspondent implies not only fixations, but also stuffing, unless, of course, they ask correctly.
      So who knows there why infa about our "Tigers" seeps into the news space ??? :)))
      1. Aag
        Aag 25 December 2022 21: 04
        +2
        "Sunday evening with ..." Solovyov began with words of gratitude to the Ministry of Defense, people responsible for information work in this department, for the opportunity to film a report at the training ground, a trip to the front line ...
        Promised soon doc. movie... It's from TV, "Russia 1"...
        Whose initiative is it...?
    3. figwam
      figwam 25 December 2022 13: 37
      +49
      Do you really think that Solovyov secretly entered this unit and illegally filmed the plot ???)))
      1. lubesky
        lubesky 25 December 2022 15: 23
        -2
        Quote: figvam
        Do you really think that Solovyov secretly entered this unit and illegally filmed the plot ???)))

        I wouldn’t even be surprised if Solovyov gave Yakov Kedmi the opportunity to get into the tank and take pictures of everything there
        1. figwam
          figwam 25 December 2022 16: 43
          +3
          Quote: lubesky
          Yakov Kedmi the opportunity to get into the tank and take pictures of everything there

          For a long time there are photos and videos inside Almaty
      2. Rustic
        Rustic 25 December 2022 16: 57
        0
        Do you really think that Solovyov secretly entered this unit and illegally filmed the plot ???)))
        Rather, on the contrary, if Solovyov himself was driven there, and not some kind of "star". That apparently really needs to be inflated out of a fly - an elephant.
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    4. Alexander Minkin
      Alexander Minkin 25 December 2022 13: 59
      -19
      And what would he run inside with Rogozin, Borisov and Shoigu ... just three
      1. novel66
        novel66 25 December 2022 14: 35
        -13
        Ragozin in the tank will not be able to sit wounded in the seat
        1. Sergey39
          Sergey39 25 December 2022 15: 15
          +6
          You are lying about the seat, it looks like you liked the wound in the dupa of the Khoklopitek battalion commander Simenchenko at one time! (((
          1. novel66
            novel66 25 December 2022 16: 57
            -5
            The difference is small - both harm us
            ! Ttttt
          2. aglet
            aglet 26 December 2022 13: 51
            -1
            "You're lying about the seat"
            the first message was - wounded in the gluteal muscle, back and leg. later it was added - at a banquet in a restaurant. you don't believe that either?
    5. Barberry25
      Barberry25 25 December 2022 14: 03
      -6
      the first applications of the Tigers were sad .. they got bogged down in a swamp and ours dragged them away .. it would rather be PR multiplied by a test of equipment ... I would first drive them there for a week, these Armats, then bring them out, And then already voiced. .
      1. Dart2027
        Dart2027 25 December 2022 14: 05
        +8
        Quote: Barberry25
        .I would first drive them there for a week, these Almaty, then brought them out, And then voiced them ..
        Maybe that's how it was. Too lazy to look, but a few weeks ago a message about Almaty in the NVO zone also flashed.
        1. alexmach
          alexmach 25 December 2022 14: 31
          +6
          The first reports of the preparation of test crews for testing in combat conditions were back in October or November.
          1. Dart2027
            Dart2027 25 December 2022 14: 51
            +2
            Quote: alexmach
            were back in October or November

            I remembered about them.
        2. Barberry25
          Barberry25 25 December 2022 14: 36
          +2
          in general, we are waiting for what will happen next ..... and there we are already thinking
      2. svp67
        svp67 25 December 2022 15: 01
        +2
        Quote: Barberry25
        the first applications of the Tigers were sad ...
        Well, ISs didn’t have it just as much “fun”
      3. Andy_nsk
        Andy_nsk 25 December 2022 15: 11
        -12
        the first applications of the Tigers were sad .. they got bogged down in the swamp and ours dragged them away ..

        It wasn't quite like that... or not at all like that.. January 1943, swamps near Leningrad.. one of the four tigers was really stuck. The Germans removed all the equipment from it, cut off the cannon, blew up the remaining box ...
        1. svp67
          svp67 25 December 2022 15: 47
          +13
          Quote from Andy_nsk
          The Germans removed all the equipment from it, cut off the cannon, blew up the remaining box ...

          Yes???
          Work settlement No. 5 was taken by 12:00 on January 18.
          In the hands of the Red Army was an abandoned Pz.Kpfw. Tiger Ausf.E with turret number 121 and serial number 250004. According to German records, it had a broken engine and failed radiator. Documents were also found along with the tank.


          Pz.Kpfw. Tiger Ausf.E with turret number 121, abandoned near the village.



          What did he blow up? What is cut off?

          But that's not all. As the famous joke about two cast-iron spheres says, one sphere was broken, but the second ... Another Pz.Kpfw acted as the second one. Tiger Ausf.E, with turret number 100 and serial number 250009. . Not knowing that Workers' Settlement No. 5 was captured, the tank advanced towards it along the road. A little before reaching the village, the tank turned off the road and ended up in a peat pit. The crew left the car and went towards the village. Realizing that it was not the Germans ahead, the tank crew retreated. So the Red Army got two "Tigers", one of which the Germans broke, and the second was completely lost unharmed.

          Pz.Kpfw. Tiger Ausf.E with turret number 100, shortly before, still in the Wehrmacht
          And this is "100" at the exhibition of trophies in Moscow in 1943

          And here is tank 121, with winter camouflage washed off and a clearly visible emblem of 502 baht and a number before testing at the Red Army training ground



          And this is after the test.

          1. Andy_nsk
            Andy_nsk 25 December 2022 17: 09
            +7
            Thanks, you convinced me. I read about a different version, but yours is much more textured. Live and learn! For such posts, I appreciate VO. hi
          2. Alexander Minkin
            Alexander Minkin 25 December 2022 17: 11
            -4
            The documents were left on purpose so that the enemy would go nuts from the ttd like Bubnov
            1. svp67
              svp67 25 December 2022 17: 48
              +3
              Quote: Alexander Minkin
              The documents were left on purpose so that the enemy would go nuts from the ttd like Bubnov

              They tried to carry them away, but for some reason they lost them in deep snow, and ours were found ...
          3. lubesky
            lubesky 25 December 2022 18: 09
            +2
            Quote: svp67
            Quote from Andy_nsk
            The Germans removed all the equipment from it, cut off the cannon, blew up the remaining box ...

            Yes???
            Work settlement No. 5 was taken by 12:00 on January 18.
            In the hands of the Red Army was an abandoned Pz.Kpfw. Tiger Ausf.E with turret number 121 and serial number 250004. According to German records, it had a broken engine and failed radiator. Documents were also found along with the tank.


            Pz.Kpfw. Tiger Ausf.E with turret number 121, abandoned near the village.



            What did he blow up? What is cut off?

            But that's not all. As the famous joke about two cast-iron spheres says, one sphere was broken, but the second ... Another Pz.Kpfw acted as the second one. Tiger Ausf.E, with turret number 100 and serial number 250009. . Not knowing that Workers' Settlement No. 5 was captured, the tank advanced towards it along the road. A little before reaching the village, the tank turned off the road and ended up in a peat pit. The crew left the car and went towards the village. Realizing that it was not the Germans ahead, the tank crew retreated. So the Red Army got two "Tigers", one of which the Germans broke, and the second was completely lost unharmed.

            Pz.Kpfw. Tiger Ausf.E with turret number 100, shortly before, still in the Wehrmacht
            And this is "100" at the exhibition of trophies in Moscow in 1943

            And here is tank 121, with winter camouflage washed off and a clearly visible emblem of 502 baht and a number before testing at the Red Army training ground



            And this is after the test.


            You see, a colleague, 27 million lives are due, the western part of the Motherland has been turned into ruins, as a result, the beast was strangled in the lair itself! And there are still people who are still confident in the "superiority" of the Germans! The tank crews of the Germans supposedly do not freeze, are not afraid, are immortal and are not subject to panic like the rest of humanity. They calmly allegedly spent several hours dismantling a secret machine ... This is what I call - a plant or a flower of a lie once sown maliciously
        2. aglet
          aglet 26 December 2022 13: 59
          +2
          "It wasn't quite right."
          sorry for the long quote:
          According to a report from the command of the German heavy tank battalion sPzAbt 502 dated January 31, 1943, to the headquarters of the 26th Army Corps with a list of tanks irretrievably lost in the January battles, two vehicles participated in this combat episode. The first one with factory number 250005 burned down after being hit by an anti-tank gun projectile in the engine compartment; the second with factory number 250009 got stuck in a swamp and was abandoned by the crew5. Information that it was she who was captured by our troops is confirmed by archival data, according to which the trophy was delivered to Kubinka. In April 1943, all instruments, engine, weapons were removed from the tank, and the hull with the turret was shot from guns of various calibers. In June, the "tiger" was exhibited in Moscow, in the Gorky Central Park of Culture and Leisure, at an exhibition of captured equipment.
    6. Hagakure
      Hagakure 25 December 2022 14: 05
      +7
      Do you think that special correspondents are independent people?
    7. Thrifty
      Thrifty 25 December 2022 14: 32
      -11
      Not enough T90M donated to the T14M? Where is the guarantee that the secret T90 will not be abandoned, as was already the case with the TXNUMXM?
      1. saigon
        saigon 25 December 2022 15: 14
        +6
        Probably they won’t get into the guard, simple tankers are more reliable.
      2. Shaman
        Shaman 25 December 2022 16: 55
        +2
        What's wrong ? They sprayed saliva for anyone, where the latest equipment is at the front, and here they are ... in a tomato, again, not everything is like that.
        1. Expert
          Expert 26 December 2022 23: 54
          0
          To release a couple of pieces on the field, risking new secret technologies - is this "the latest equipment at the front"? But nothing that they were promised 2300 units by 2018!?
          Now, if so many of them were released - another story. But, for example, 20 produced tanks, in my subjective opinion, they can hardly make the weather there, compared to the same T-90M. That is, there may be more potential risk than the intended benefit from such an application. After all, as soon as characteristics are removed from the equipment, the enemy immediately begins to develop countermeasures. And if now all the secrets of the design and characteristics of the "Armata" are revealed, then how will NATO be surprised later in a potential confrontation? In this case, you yourself may be very unpleasantly surprised!
          Considering that the T-90M has already been lost and is being examined by the enemy in NATO, I think this is too big a risk. As a last resort, if only to keep ready 2 high-precision powerful missiles for each such tank, so that in an emergency it would be possible to minimize the number of secret technologies that the enemies would like to get!

          Just in case, I retort in advance that "it needs to be urgently tested in combat conditions." Although this is solely in my personal opinion, based on my subjective perception, I assume that a country like Russia has such a number of training grounds in all possible climatic conditions, and such a vast experience in tank building and the combat use of armored vehicles that the test results in real combat conditions can differ little from what can be understood in research institutes, in laboratories and at training grounds, including testing guns, armor and electronics.

          Instead, I suggest that it is better to put Arena and Malachite on all armored vehicles, where possible.
          KAZ "Arena-M" can be installed both on the upgraded T-72B3, T-80BVM and T-90M "Proryv" tanks, as well as new models of weapons such as BMPT. Also, with these systems it will be possible to strengthen the survivability of infantry fighting vehicles BMP-3 and landing BMD-4.
    8. Thrifty
      Thrifty 25 December 2022 14: 35
      -19
      I wonder what kind of driving a tank on a marching with an open driver's hatch in a combat zone? From the mind of abundance, or its scarcity?
      1. chebman
        chebman 25 December 2022 14: 42
        +10
        For the especially gifted, the text indicates that T14 is located in the rear of the NWO.
        1. Thrifty
          Thrifty 25 December 2022 15: 14
          -11
          chebman-for super-specially gifted and minusoids, the rear there is a conditional concept, since our cities are shelled hundreds of kilometers from the place of hostilities, if sabotage is carried out with impunity almost all over Russia! The rear cannot be "safe" because there is a WAR going on there, as you don't call her!
        2. private person
          private person 25 December 2022 15: 20
          -8
          For the especially gifted, the text indicates that T14 is located in the rear of the NWO.

          Ukram "friends" will give the coordinates, point to the target and hit with "Himers". What is the rear on the edge when there is no exact front line?
          1. NAF-NAF
            NAF-NAF 25 December 2022 17: 58
            +3
            a purely technical question: how and in what format will hypothetical "friends" transmit coordinates to within a meter to destroy the T-14? (plus or minus one hundred meters, remove from the map, or type "located on the edge of the forest near the road"- as it were, it will not be enough to destroy such a target as a tank). Here is a tank in the field, some kind of horseradish with a GPS receiver comes up to it, right? Or with geodetic instruments from behind the bushes on both sides to make a notch? Here's how ??
        3. AdAstra
          AdAstra 25 December 2022 15: 25
          +5
          And your rear may be near Kazan laughing "" ""
        4. Shaman
          Shaman 25 December 2022 16: 57
          +3
          He is not ,, gifted ,, but hit. And rather, this troll from tsipso reeks.
      2. Thrifty
        Thrifty 25 December 2022 15: 17
        -14
        As always, the pYtreots were marked stupidly with minuses, without explaining their logic, but it became easier to see on the darlings !!! Because of such leavened urapotreotism, those lands that were taken at the beginning of the war were lost, including the great blood of our military.
        1. Shaman
          Shaman 25 December 2022 17: 00
          -1
          Your military, heroes, are rotting in the fields, little chubat.
          1. Thrifty
            Thrifty 25 December 2022 18: 14
            0
            Shaman - you need to be able to answer for the words, because those whom you called "heroes" of Duane's, military personnel of the Russian army! For people like you, deprived of a mind, I write for the hundredth time that I am Russian and live and work in the Russian city of Rostov-on-Don! And whose will you be???
      3. savage3000
        savage3000 26 December 2022 13: 37
        +2
        Have you watched at least one video of tank battles ???? They are full. In 2 out of 3 cases, the hatches of the tanks are open. It's good to see from the quads
    9. Sergey39
      Sergey39 25 December 2022 15: 12
      +2
      Times and customs are different! And no one canceled the info war!!!
    10. Viktor Sergeev
      Viktor Sergeev 25 December 2022 17: 11
      -2
      You are like a little child. It’s the 21st century, it doesn’t matter what equipment is being used or is being prepared for use, but the information struggle is going on and the presence of new weapons will cheer up both those who are fighting and those who are in the rear. How much stink on the Internet: Armata is a myth, bullshit, for parades, well, we'll see soon. If they are brought into a group, they add other equipment, for example, Terminators, they will get an excellent group for a quick strike and counterattack.
    11. Leontrotsky
      Leontrotsky 26 December 2022 14: 42
      -1
      Well, just like that, such information is not reported. Surely it was good from above.
    12. Vincent price
      Vincent price 28 December 2022 10: 31
      0
      I propose to compare the information policy of 22 years with that of the 9th century. I wonder if a journalist reported on the preparation of Prince Oleg for a campaign against Tsar Grad, would this journalist have lived for a long time? Do you understand Tronia? In the age of satellite reconnaissance, smartphones and broadband Internet, do you want to hide a tank?)) I suppose that the same retrogrades as you in the general army believed that now is the middle of the 20th century and Ukrainians are all for Russia.
  2. Irokez
    Irokez 25 December 2022 13: 19
    -4
    Well, it’s good if you give it to musicians for greater efficiency and reliability of use.
  3. Luka Nord
    Luka Nord 25 December 2022 13: 20
    +10
    Looks like the time has come! Well, God forbid that the combat coordination was successful ..
    1. Eroma
      Eroma 25 December 2022 14: 52
      +9
      The most interesting question with Armata, with which unit will they interact? Because Armata is not just a tank, it is one of the key elements of a network-centric war, it itself hits targets and issues a control center for artillery and anyone, and which of these functions is more important is not yet known. Therefore, the most interesting thing is how Armata will interact with other units? If it’s like an ordinary tank, then it’s not clear why they are dragging it there, but if, according to the concept laid down in it, then equipping interacting units with Armata is even more interesting ?!
      Perhaps they formed an "experimental" regiment, which should test the Constellation Command and Control System in battle with all the key elements of a network-centric war.
      In short, riddles... riddles.... fog obscures the picture of the future! wassat maybe the Russian Army will demonstrate how we will fight in the future fellow
      1. Andy_nsk
        Andy_nsk 25 December 2022 15: 22
        +2
        Therefore, the most interesting thing is how Armata will interact with other units? If it’s like an ordinary tank, then it’s not clear why they are dragging it there, but if, according to the concept laid down in it, then equipping interacting units with Armata is even more interesting ?!
        Perhaps they formed an "experimental" regiment, which should test the Constellation Command and Control System in battle with all the key elements of a network-centric war.

        I strongly doubt that it will be possible to fully realize its network-centric capabilities. Several times I read messages that our fighters' communication is far from ideal.
        1. Eroma
          Eroma 25 December 2022 16: 15
          +2
          The whole army and one unit, that's a big difference. I think one unit can provide normal communication. Let's wait and see what comes out of it.
  4. aglet
    aglet 25 December 2022 13: 21
    +3
    "It was Solovyov's team who filmed the combat coordination of the crews of T-14 tanks in the Donbass. Before that, the newest tanks were seen at the training ground near Kazan"
    Was the video filmed in Ukraine? or at the training ground, near Kazan? believing Solovyov is not kosher!
    1. Irokez
      Irokez 25 December 2022 13: 23
      -2
      Do you suspect that Nightingale is a liar?
      1. Alien From
        Alien From 25 December 2022 13: 31
        +28
        No way.....he is a TV Jew......
        1. Uncle lee
          Uncle lee 25 December 2022 13: 44
          +8
          Quote: Alien From
          ..he is a TV Jew......

          And he talks about it all the time! And with pride...
          1. filibuster
            filibuster 25 December 2022 14: 09
            -3
            Well, that's right, he is preparing himself an alternate airfield.
            1. petroglyph
              petroglyph 25 December 2022 15: 47
              +2
              Stop talking nonsense. I would like to - I was already there with Alkin Galkin. The man has done and is doing a lot to help our people at the front. And for my own money. More than many talkative patriots.
              1. filibuster
                filibuster 26 December 2022 00: 40
                -3
                Well, Galkin turned out to be more honest, expressed his position and left, Solovyov all this time sang as badly in the West, and he bought real estate, sent his children to study, just now Solovyov earns big money. When the time comes, he will easily change his shoes again, here are two videos with him:


                1. Irokez
                  Irokez 26 December 2022 19: 45
                  -1
                  The typical style of the CEPS worker is to display materials from many years ago when the situation was completely different, or even vice versa.
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      2. aglet
        aglet 25 December 2022 13: 37
        +7
        "Do you suspect that Nightingale is a liar?"
        No, I don't, I'm sure of it. you can't really buy a villa in italy
        1. Ivan Ivanov
          Ivan Ivanov 25 December 2022 13: 50
          +6
          Unlike other media personalities, he easily donated the villa. He may misjudge the situation, what happens to him, and he doesn't really need to lie. And his comments on the air are quite sharp.
          1. aglet
            aglet 25 December 2022 13: 58
            -10
            "And his comments on the air are quite sharp"
            ordered, and therefore sharp. and very rude, by the way. not everyone can humiliate interlocutors like that, only a specially trained person
            "Unlike other media personalities, he easily donated the villa"
            probably not alone
            "and he doesn't really need to lie"
            so he doesn’t really lie, exactly for the amount that was paid
          2. Piramidon
            Piramidon 25 December 2022 14: 04
            +6
            Quote: IvanIvanov
            And his comments on the air are quite sharp.

            No sharper than he is ordered and allowed.
          3. for
            for 25 December 2022 14: 13
            +12
            Quote: IvanIvanov
            And his comments on the air are quite sharp.

            And his comments on the air are quite boorish.
          4. lis-ik
            lis-ik 25 December 2022 14: 25
            0
            Quote: IvanIvanov
            Unlike other media personalities, he easily donated the villa. He may misjudge the situation, what happens to him, and he doesn't really need to lie. And his comments on the air are quite sharp.

            No, it’s not easy, he constantly lamented on the air. By the way, he was not badly compensated for the loss by transferring a TV channel, so that he earned money for new ones. And so, he is a boor and a weather vane.
            1. AdAstra
              AdAstra 25 December 2022 15: 28
              +5
              Weathervane is not the right word. """"
          5. faiver
            faiver 25 December 2022 16: 11
            +2
            Unlike other media personalities, he easily donated the villa
            Easy come, easy go...
        2. Woodman
          Woodman 25 December 2022 13: 57
          +1
          Quote: aglet
          You can't buy a villa in Italy

          Settle down with this villa. They confiscated it at the beginning of the year. Should have gone under the hammer. The money from the sale goes to the budget of Tuva (no matter how strange it may sound).
        3. Fat
          Fat 25 December 2022 16: 14
          +1
          hi
          Quote: aglet
          "Do you suspect that Nightingale is a liar?"
          No, I don't, I'm sure of it. you can't really buy a villa in italy

          You simply don’t know how to work like a foreman - a Jew, such a client is always satisfied and the master with a gesheft without any mutual claims ... wassat drinks wassat
          1. Leontrotsky
            Leontrotsky 26 December 2022 14: 52
            0
            Just the villa is the least in doubt. They pay decently on TV, but how many years has he been working? And not only on TV. As for lies, he was not noticed in this. Or can you give an example?
      3. Grandfather
        Grandfather 25 December 2022 13: 41
        -8
        Quote: Irokez
        Do you suspect that Nightingale is a liar?
        wassat
      4. Mikhail Krivopalov
        Mikhail Krivopalov 25 December 2022 13: 41
        +8
        Is he crystal clear? I remember how at the beginning of his television career he very cheerfully took a pro-American position, then suddenly turned around sharply. What is only worth his boorish behavior towards ordinary radio listeners, and obsequious respect for high-ranking guests in the studio. And the film (I would say laudatory) he shot about Mussolini? I rarely watch TV, but I remember how in 2015-2016 he talked about 50000 dead civilians in the DPR-LPR, in 2021 he began to voice the figure of 10000. The person is trying, working out his salary of several tens of millions of rubles.
      5. Vincent price
        Vincent price 28 December 2022 10: 32
        -2
        Aren't nightingales and a liar synonymous?)
    2. figwam
      figwam 25 December 2022 13: 41
      +10
      Quote: aglet
      Was the video filmed in Ukraine? or at the training ground, near Kazan?

      Snow depth near Kazan is 40 centimeters
      1. aglet
        aglet 25 December 2022 14: 01
        -4
        "Snow depth is 40 centimeters near Kazan"
        this is now, and a month ago?
        1. figwam
          figwam 25 December 2022 16: 58
          +3
          Quote: aglet
          this is now, and a month ago?

          Want to fantasize? Why then a month, take a year, three, five years ago at once.
          1. aglet
            aglet 26 December 2022 14: 10
            0
            "Do you want to fantasize?"
            I fantasize no more than you. a year ago, neither Kazan nor Ukraine was of particular interest to me. especially Kazan
    3. Leontrotsky
      Leontrotsky 26 December 2022 14: 50
      +1
      Well, Solovyov can be trusted. For he is on the front lines every week.
  5. Roman Efremov
    Roman Efremov 25 December 2022 13: 23
    -4
    Well, wait? After the New Year, judging by the numerous reports, something is planned. So Armata will come in handy. By the way, back in the summer I predicted that if the war drags on for a long time, it’s possible that things will come to Almaty. laughing
    1. Third district
      Third district 25 December 2022 13: 32
      +2
      Quote: Roman Efremov
      By the way, back in the summer I predicted that if the war drags on for a long time, it’s possible that things will come to Almaty.

      It is possible that not only the turn will come to Almaty, it is. But just what is funny here, civilians are dying every day, our soldiers are dying.
      1. Roman Efremov
        Roman Efremov 25 December 2022 14: 08
        0
        Did you understand my emoticon in such a way that I laugh at those who die? ........
  6. Mihail0221
    Mihail0221 25 December 2022 13: 24
    +13
    Firstly, the tank is very expensive, the cost is said to be around 350 million rubles
    Well, now blow off the dust particles from it. There is a lot of money in the country, but few people. The main value is the life and health of the crew.
    1. Rustic
      Rustic 25 December 2022 17: 09
      0
      There is a lot of money in the country, but few people. The main value is the life and health of the crew.
      This is what you think. But the government thinks exactly the opposite. And confirmation of this is a bunch of statements from the president, to a seedy bureaucrat.
      1. your1970
        your1970 26 December 2022 19: 31
        0
        Quote from Rustic
        There is a lot of money in the country, but few people. The main value is the life and health of the crew.
        This is what you think. But the government thinks exactly the opposite. And confirmation of this is a bunch of statements from the president, to a seedy bureaucrat.

        And in the USSR, the authorities thought the same way - until the mid-1970s, no efforts were made to identify the dead nameless fighters lying uncovered in forests and ravines. So, isolated ones accidentally found in cities ...
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    1. Fedor1
      Fedor1 25 December 2022 14: 14
      -19
      this is when the soul flies skyward after the tower has been torn off due to the bk explosion soldier
      1. Sergey39
        Sergey39 25 December 2022 15: 26
        +4
        Your passage, past Almaty!
        The crew is in an armored capsule and the tower is unmanned! (((
  8. olhon
    olhon 25 December 2022 13: 27
    +10
    Have a good trip. Sorry, I'm not smart enough to write a normal comment
    1. Yura
      Yura 25 December 2022 14: 07
      +5
      Quote: olhon
      Good luck.

      At the moment, the most normal comment.
      1. El Chuvachino
        El Chuvachino 25 December 2022 14: 36
        +2
        I subscribe to your words! Good luck!
      2. Xnumx vis
        Xnumx vis 25 December 2022 15: 16
        +2
        Quote: Jura
        Quote: olhon
        Good luck.

        At the moment, the most normal comment.

        This suggests that there are few well-wishers of Russia now, at the moment, on the VO website. Hayut armata, Solovyov, his statements, praise the greenery, his podkryskov .. The fifth column of "tankers" from Israel and Ukraine. In action .
        1. Yura
          Yura 25 December 2022 15: 22
          -1
          Quote: 30 vis
          This suggests that there are few well-wishers of Russia now, at the moment, on the VO website

          I agree!
  9. Sith
    Sith 25 December 2022 13: 41
    +3
    Hell it's about time!(c)SCII
  10. Amateur
    Amateur 25 December 2022 13: 42
    -13
    newest tanks were seen at the training ground near Kazan, where training of mobilized.

    I didn't understand! Are you going to plant mobilized people on Armata? And in general, how do "training" differ from "combat coordination". In general, what is nonsense
    1. Sith
      Sith 25 December 2022 13: 58
      +5
      Training ... is teaching someone ... something ... coordination is a rehearsal for commanders and crews who will directly fight side by side together
      1. Yura
        Yura 25 December 2022 15: 01
        +4
        Quote from Sith
        coordination is a rehearsal of commanders and crews who will directly fight side-by-side together
        Or, to put it another way, working out the interaction of crews with each other, with crews of tanks of other types, with platoon commanders, companies, working with target designations, their distribution between crews, as well as observing each other and insuring neighboring vehicles if necessary, all this should work as a well-oiled mechanism, this is the key to success and minimizing losses.
        1. Vlodek
          Vlodek 26 December 2022 21: 42
          0
          When buying a new car, there is a break-in period. Here coordination is this period: grinding mechanisms and parts in sparing modes. To then, if necessary, slipper to the floor and full speed ahead.
  11. Mikhail Krivopalov
    Mikhail Krivopalov 25 December 2022 13: 45
    -10
    Field, fog... And when was it filmed? Soon the New Year, and the snow is not visible at all, some kind of end of October.
    1. Mihail0221
      Mihail0221 25 December 2022 14: 11
      +4
      Field, fog... And when was it filmed? Soon the New Year, and the snow is not visible at all, some kind of end of October.
      You do not live on the Russian Plain. This is the weather we have now.
    2. Leshak
      Leshak 25 December 2022 14: 11
      +5
      Quote: Mikhail Krivopalov
      Field, fog... And when was it filmed? Soon the New Year, and the snow is not visible at all, some kind of end of October.

      Here is such a winter in Ukraine! I live nearby - I got dirt.
    3. Andobor
      Andobor 25 December 2022 14: 59
      +2
      Quote: Mikhail Krivopalov
      Field, fog... And when was it filmed? Soon the New Year, and the snow is not visible at all, some kind of end of October.

      There is no snow at all in the war zone now, it fell at times, but it all melted,
      It is convenient to watch the weather in the world here: https://www.ventusky.com/?p=52.4;34.9;4&l=snow
    4. your1970
      your1970 26 December 2022 19: 33
      +1
      Quote: Mikhail Krivopalov
      Soon the New Year, and the snow is not visible at all, some kind of end of October.

      Saratov region, Zavolzhye, there has never been snow yet. Morozov, however, has not yet been below -14
  12. Amateur
    Amateur 25 December 2022 13: 46
    -4
    Quote: Irokez
    Do you suspect that Nightingale is a liar?

    Solovyov - JOURNALIST. And that means everything is possible.
    ps The unconditional belief that everything that is "carried from a zombie" is TRUE, this is "finally"!
    1. Sith
      Sith 25 December 2022 14: 01
      -6
      A zombie is a means for advertising ... over the past 10 years, the entire sane population has switched to smartphones
      The box is watched by the elderly, who are used to watching it ... that is, those who created our current gloomy future ... for them you can spin political and near-science fiction on it
      1. vovka
        vovka 25 December 2022 14: 24
        -11
        100% exactly so, almost everyone over 60 is fabulous dreamers
        1. Xnumx vis
          Xnumx vis 25 December 2022 15: 21
          +1
          Quote: Vovka
          100% exactly so, almost everyone over 60 is fabulous dreamers

          Annihilate everyone over 60! And distribute their property to wise men wassat like you. tongue Dream Svidomo friend .... bully
        2. Il'nur
          Il'nur 25 December 2022 16: 10
          +2
          who are over 60 fabulous dreamers

          Can you reveal your statement, what is their fantasy?
          1. Vlodek
            Vlodek 26 December 2022 21: 44
            -1
            in that they plowed for the sake of a brighter future, and the liberals took it away from them by deceit
            1. Expert
              Expert 27 December 2022 20: 31
              0
              So, in your opinion, "liberasty" took away a bright future from pensioners? And who exactly are they, can I have a dozen names for example, and how exactly did they do it, can you clarify? That is, what kind of powerful tools were used by them to influence the whole country in order, as you say, to rob a huge layer of people, count more than one generation? And when did this happen, what has not been fixed until now, since you say that "the bright future was taken away"?
      2. Il'nur
        Il'nur 25 December 2022 16: 06
        +5
        sane population and moved to smartphones

        Who falls under this definition, those who use a smartphone? Those who do not know how to perform simple arithmetic operations in their minds - need a calculator, those who do not distinguish Iraq from Iran, Austria from Australia, Sweden from Switzerland, and much more, who sit on YouTube or on Zen and watch the content of various inadequate and EGE products? !
        Do you consider them sane?
        And who said that in a smartphone (Internet) information is the truth in the first instance, people also provide information there, different contents, and someone created these contents, and they reflect someone's vision of the situation.
        Those older people whom you mentioned so pejoratively have not yet lost their ability to analyze, and they keep up with the times, they draw information from both the Internet and TV, and then they are able to compare and compare the source of information, and then determine where lies and truth ...
      3. Sergej1972
        Sergej1972 25 December 2022 18: 23
        +1
        The active use of a computer, smartphone, the Internet does not prevent me from watching TV at all. Both through the TV and using the same computer and smartphone connected to the Internet. Films, educational programs, of course, I prefer to watch on TV. It's still a big screen. Moreover, sometimes I listen to the radio, occasionally I buy newspapers.
    2. Woodman
      Woodman 25 December 2022 14: 04
      +4
      Quote: Amateur
      An unconditional belief that everything that is "carried from a zombie" is TRUE, this is "finally"!

      Some authors write here angry revelations about the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation in the analytics section on what they are "carrying from a hohlozomboyaschik". And under these "works" a queue of admirers immediately line up with comments like "I wrote everything correctly", etc. etc.
      And Solovyov, if he suddenly lies, is not to humiliate the army or introduce a split into society, but quite the opposite.
      1. Mihail0221
        Mihail0221 25 December 2022 14: 16
        -1
        And Solovyov, if he suddenly lies, is not to humiliate the army or introduce a split into society, but quite the opposite

        Well, yes Solovyov rather cheers - a patriot. Its propaganda is still for the benefit of Russia for the most part.
        1. Rikochet
          Rikochet 25 December 2022 15: 48
          -4
          Quote: Michael0221
          And Solovyov, if he suddenly lies, is not to humiliate the army or introduce a split into society, but quite the opposite

          Well, yes Solovyov rather cheers - a patriot. Its propaganda is still for the benefit of Russia for the most part.

          Your opinion is interesting. What do you think the presence of a professional intelligence officer Kedmi (Israel) in the programs of Solovyov (although he says that he is retired, but there are no such jobs) and Simes (USA, Israel) in the big game of Channel 1 (and permanent) for a change or something , for me, it’s getting data about us, our mood and who, with a fool (or maybe not) will blather in a smoking room, upon arrival at the place of promise, analytical reports. And here is the question: who allows all this or is it already control over us with permission?
      2. Mihail0221
        Mihail0221 25 December 2022 14: 23
        -7
        Some authors write here angry revelations about the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation in the analytics section on what they are "carrying from a hohlozomboyaschik"
        name the articles. If not difficult. For analysis. hi
      3. Amateur
        Amateur 25 December 2022 16: 46
        -2
        And Solovyov, if he suddenly lies,

        Doesn’t it occur to you that if you don’t lie at all, then the people will begin to believe?
        1. Woodman
          Woodman 26 December 2022 08: 45
          -1
          Quote: Amateur
          if you don't lie at all

          Does he lie? Did you notice that I wrote "if" in my comment? I don’t watch it very often, maybe I don’t know something, but somehow I didn’t notice ... And among the commentators who claim that Solovyov is lying for some reason, it’s not customary to give specific examples ... Maybe you will be honored?
    3. Leontrotsky
      Leontrotsky 26 December 2022 14: 56
      -1
      I agree that information should be filtered, no matter where it comes from. But to accuse a person of lying, you need grounds. Can you give a specific example of when he lied?
  13. sanik2020
    sanik2020 25 December 2022 14: 02
    +2
    The T-14 "Armata" was created for combat and not for parades, and it was a matter of time to test it in battle.
    Just God forbid, something would happen like with the T-90M in the Kharkov region during the retreat.
  14. Konnick
    Konnick 25 December 2022 14: 03
    -14
    Solovyov violated the law of December 1, 2022 on non-disclosure of military secrets.
    Or he should be involved for spreading fakes. There is no third.
    1. hhurik
      hhurik 25 December 2022 14: 25
      +3
      Come on wink Disclosure is the illegal disclosure of this information (message in a confidential conversation, demonstration of diagrams, etc., report, lecture, publication in the media, etc.), as a result of which they become the property of other persons.
      The key word is illegal. If it (disclosure) is authorized by the competent authorities of the state, then everything is sunny. For everything that meets the interests of Russia is legal and justified by default.
    2. Eragon
      Eragon 25 December 2022 14: 32
      +1
      Quote: Konnick
      Solovyov violated the law of December 1, 2022 on non-disclosure of military secrets.
      Or he should be involved for spreading fakes. There is no third.

      Third: showed, because it became necessary to show. In this case, he did not violate anything, but carried out the order of the Russian leadership. Or does someone doubt that there was a team, and from the very top?
      1. Mikhail Krivopalov
        Mikhail Krivopalov 25 December 2022 14: 39
        -5
        It turns out that an instruction was given that violates the law?
        1. hhurik
          hhurik 25 December 2022 15: 17
          +3
          It turns out that the definitions of a particular legal norm are constructed in such a way that there is no violation.
          Such a funny fart monocle.
        2. Eragon
          Eragon 25 December 2022 15: 54
          0
          Quote: Mikhail Krivopalov
          It turns out that an instruction was given that violates the law?

          Not at all. It's just that it's no longer a military secret.
          It always happens, it's just that the timing is different: sometimes in 100 years, sometimes in 10 years, and sometimes the next day. Yesterday is a mystery, but today it is not.
    3. Rustic
      Rustic 25 December 2022 17: 19
      0
      Solovyov violated the law of December 1, 2022 on non-disclosure of military secrets.
      Considering that those who are subordinates of the subordinate of the one who issued Solovyov the task of filming this plot will have to qualify the corpus delicti. I think the result will be known in advance. In these actions, the elements of a crime are not seen. And everything is legal.
  15. Dilettante grandfather
    Dilettante grandfather 25 December 2022 14: 05
    +12
    The cost of the tank is not critical. If he can do more than the T-72/80/90, then he must be involved. Of course, taking all measures to prevent the capture of the tank by the enemy. After all, tanks are not built for parades. Will go to the DB line - good. First, they will be tested in combat conditions. Secondly, they will silence the skeptics, and those who constantly shout about cartoons. Thirdly, they will give food for thought to designers. In other words, good luck guys. Beat the Nazi bastard!
  16. Fedor1
    Fedor1 25 December 2022 14: 08
    -9
    Well, how do you like Elon Musk or Joe Biden?
  17. yuriy55
    yuriy55 25 December 2022 14: 09
    +4
    The news is good. Combat coordination is an important thing.
    stop Sorry! This:
    Firstly, the tank is very expensive, the cost is said to be around 350 million rubles, which is seven times more expensive than the upgraded T-72B3.

    Against the background of 300 dollars spent, which is 000 rubles or 000 "Armat", talk about the high cost is extremely vile and pointless ...
    An increase in personal income tax for those whose incomes are above 5 per year to the prescribed 000-000% (as in China) will (may give) an additional 40 rubles or 45 "Armata" EACH YEAR!!!
    But who will pass such a law? Who will recommend them?
    1. Mikhail Krivopalov
      Mikhail Krivopalov 25 December 2022 14: 41
      -3
      Who will accept? Who will recommend? Do you think they themselves will impose such taxes on themselves, adopting laws?
    2. Sergey39
      Sergey39 25 December 2022 15: 31
      -1
      Zeros can be reduced, the European Union cannot find all these zeros, they are lost!
      1. forty-eighth
        forty-eighth 25 December 2022 15: 55
        -1
        Maybe the European Union capitalized them. And told everyone that there was nothing
    3. Rustic
      Rustic 25 December 2022 17: 25
      -2
      But who will pass such a law? Who will recommend them?
      Someone can and will recommend. But why would all the deputies, without exception, suddenly give up part of their money in favor of the state? Of course, they are still cattle, but not quite the same idiots?
      1. yuriy55
        yuriy55 25 December 2022 17: 50
        +1
        Quote from Rustic
        Of course, they are still cattle, but not quite the same idiots?

        The IVS, carrying out the monetary reform of 1947, managed to explain in a popular way that due to a lack of funds, this reform is being carried out, which will undoubtedly entail costs, most of which will be borne by the state ... Only citizens should help him with this, and wealthy citizens - increasingly. It was then that limited amounts were exchanged 1:1.
        Bestiality, when deputies appoint a minimum wage ten times lower than their monetary allowance. But, now it’s time to replace all of them with OGAS ... AI (artificial intelligence will quite cope with many functions that these people who call themselves servants of the people drag out with difficulty. If they are servants, then the people that Moses led for 40 years in the desert. ..
        They are not even able to come up with a "transferable ruble" - a kind of Russian currency, backed by gold and precious metals. Then precious metals and other valuables in the form of precious stones will become the real physical security of the transferable ruble...
        It is with this ruble that in specific cases it will be possible to pay for goods without resorting to the dollar and the euro.
        Under the conditions of total sanctions, Russia has no right to exchange physical goods for paper, which is declared the world's legal tender...
        They didn’t know what to do with 200 tons of mined gold ... Yes, for this gold it was possible to issue 2 billion transferable rubles with gold backing of 0 g or 1 ordinary rubles (for example).
  18. Incvizitor
    Incvizitor 25 December 2022 14: 11
    0
    In general, I think that for urban combat it would be nice to have a semblance of an AVRE with a short big broadhead so that the gun rises even higher, destroy positions with fortifications and even houses where the enemy is, and in open places how to use a self-propelled gun to book such a broadband and it will be buzzing.
    1. USSR_
      USSR_ 25 December 2022 14: 16
      +1
      If you move in columns along the streets of occupied cities, then it doesn’t matter what broads or armor you have ...
      Find and watch on You Tube the latest interview of General Rokhlin about the capture of Grozny by him!
  19. vovka
    vovka 25 December 2022 14: 12
    -8
    These tanks won't solve anything. 10-20 pieces.
    1. nik-mazur
      nik-mazur 25 December 2022 14: 54
      +2
      Quote: Vovka
      won't solve anything. 10-20 pieces
      Oh, okay. For several months now, we have been told here how a dozen and a half Khimars made a nightmare of the entire Russian army, turned the tide of the war and almost ensured the victory of Ukraine, if it had not suddenly ended. But soon a whole battery of Patriots will drive up with sixteen missiles on four launchers and fix everything.
      Or, sorry, does this only concern American wunderwaffles?
      1. Sergey39
        Sergey39 25 December 2022 15: 33
        +1
        You are either a dreamer or an illiterate, Hymers and Patriots, different weapons! (((
        1. nik-mazur
          nik-mazur 25 December 2022 16: 18
          +1
          Quote: Sergey39
          Hymers and Patriots, different weapons
          Seriously? If you believe the mriyas of dill-patriots, in general, there is no difference - both those and others fire missiles and ensure the victory of Ukraine. About Himarsy, who made the Russian army a nightmare, I even read here almost every day. And about the miraculous Patrots, all sorts of fakers in the news sing like nightingales - like, as soon as they arrive in Ukraine, the war will end ... Or vice versa - as the end of the war, so they will come ... I, frankly, somehow did not penetrate.
          1. Il'nur
            Il'nur 25 December 2022 17: 12
            0
            Some ukroskakun did not like your post, downvoted, and also to catch up with me ...
            1. nik-mazur
              nik-mazur 25 December 2022 17: 24
              +2
              And here they consistently minus posts in favor of ours and / or against not ours. Moreover, they are especially fierce, in the case of an unenthusiastic way of thinking in the direction of American technology - they fly like Winnie the Pooh on honey.
              And I still don’t understand why they are sculpting warnings here - they already gave me three pieces for some garbage that is not worth a damn.
              1. Il'nur
                Il'nur 25 December 2022 19: 32
                -1
                Why are there warnings here?

                Yes, there is such a thing, there are a lot of warnings ... And yet, somehow all the posts were minus, the rating was lowered by more than 10 thousand units at a time, and this is easy to do, the attacker opens the profile and goes through all the posts ... Of course, I wrote to the admins , but such a jamb was not altered ..
      2. Il'nur
        Il'nur 25 December 2022 16: 42
        -3
        nightmarish the entire Russian army

        So they have long been making a parade on Red Square, with the help of "the whole world is with us" with their gods javelin and bayraktar ...
  20. USSR_
    USSR_ 25 December 2022 14: 14
    -17
    The brand new T-90 "Oplot" was presented to the Americans.
    - Now the T-14 "Armata" is next in line?
    1. Sebostyuan
      Sebostyuan 25 December 2022 14: 46
      +8
      Before criticizing and expressing your own - fi. At least they bothered to study the names. T-90M "Breakthrough" RF. T-84 "Oplot" UK.
      1. Rustic
        Rustic 25 December 2022 17: 29
        +2
        At least they bothered to study the names. T-90M "Breakthrough" RF. T-84 "Oplot"
        Well, the "Cossack" according to Freud accidentally made a reservation. It happens to everyone? laughing
    2. Xnumx vis
      Xnumx vis 25 December 2022 15: 33
      -2
      Quote: USSR_
      The brand new T-90 "Oplot" was presented to the Americans.
      - Now the T-14 "Armata" is next in line?

      You are from Ukraine wassat ? Z cryopel? These are strongholds and javelins there .. They even call them Javelina Oplitivna Khimerivnichuk. laughing laughing
  21. 1razvgod
    1razvgod 25 December 2022 14: 17
    +4
    With God! Skill, good luck and victories to the tankers !!!
  22. alexey sidykin
    alexey sidykin 25 December 2022 14: 19
    +7
    Well, our critics don’t like anything ... then give them armature to the front urgently, messages flashed that they appeared, they are again dissatisfied ... I wonder if they are fooling around with idleness or working out a special order? These friendly howls are doubtful.
    1. newtc7
      newtc7 25 December 2022 15: 02
      +4
      Quote: Alexey Sedykin
      Well, our critics don’t like anything ... then give them armature to the front urgently, messages flashed that they appeared, they are again dissatisfied ... I wonder if they are fooling around with idleness or working out a special order? These friendly howls are doubtful.


      These are different people. Those who wanted armature to the front are adequate. Those who do not rejoice in this, people with narrow thinking and a strange understanding of reality.
      - let's armature to the front?
      They - no, they will kill her !!
      - let's have a coalition-sv with the eagles to cross all the crabs and so on?
      No, she's not ready!
      - let's fill up the T-90 front ??
      - oh no it will be a nightmare for supplies

      Well, and so on. Obviously, you need to use everything new there, test, check, study tactics, and so on.
  23. chingachguc
    chingachguc 25 December 2022 14: 32
    +1
    It would be strange if it had not been run in. The loss of individual tanks is not as terrible as the possibility of it falling into the hands of the enemy
  24. break_beats
    break_beats 25 December 2022 14: 41
    -7
    Quote: Thrifty
    Not enough T90M donated to the T14M? Where is the guarantee that the secret T90 will not be abandoned, as was already the case with the TXNUMXM?


    Ask for receipts from the crew drinks
  25. break_beats
    break_beats 25 December 2022 14: 42
    +3
    Quote: Alexey Sedykin
    Well, our critics don’t like anything ... then give them armature to the front urgently, messages flashed that they appeared, they are again dissatisfied ... I wonder if they are fooling around with idleness or working out a special order? These friendly howls are doubtful.


    Ordinary dull fool they are.lol
  26. Viktor fm
    Viktor fm 25 December 2022 14: 43
    +2
    Solovyov did everything right - he visited the front, showed Armata. And this is not for everyone.
  27. newtc7
    newtc7 25 December 2022 14: 53
    +1
    Yes, what are you saying? And where are these guys who, foaming at the mouth, proved that Almaty is not needed in the NVO zone?
    Too lazy to look, but a week ago I wrote that they would still be driven there and tested. Soon they will write that one armata goes to 3 t-90 :-)
    1. Expert
      Expert 27 December 2022 21: 04
      0
      I don’t know with whom you “argued” with foam at the mouth (perhaps with yourself), because there is no logical connection between the phrases “they proved that Almaty is not needed in the NVO zone” and “wrote that they would still be driven there and would be tested ".
  28. Nikolai Redko
    Nikolai Redko 25 December 2022 14: 56
    0
    ".. the tank is very expensive .." And? ... Then why was it designed and produced to stand in a barn ?! Take care as a "surprise" for the war with NATO?! So now there is just that very war with NATO only by the hands of idiots from 404. Yes, there is an option for the enemy to capture the car, but this issue can probably be resolved! I think that the T-14 should participate in the war, in order to understand whether it is worth its money or you need to quit the idea with semiautomatic devices and fight the old fashioned way!
    1. Rustic
      Rustic 25 December 2022 17: 39
      -3
      Yes, the option of capturing the car by the enemy exists, but this issue can probably be resolved!
      Of course you can fix it. Just roll a couple of Tornadoes along the rear parallel to the tank. And if something is all at once in ruins. There are no extra MLRS, well, let a couple of 34 dryers stand somewhere nearby loaded to the eyeballs. In general, if desired, this is not a problem at all.
      1. Expert
        Expert 27 December 2022 21: 56
        0
        I almost said the same. Only, in your case, a small clarification. Can a Tornado destroy, and not just damage, a tank? Because demolishing the optics, removing the caterpillars, maybe even tearing down the tower - this is not tantamount to destruction when it comes to the task of keeping secrets. (But, personally, I don’t know the characteristics of Tornado, so I don’t say XNUMX% that this is exactly the case.)
        Taking into account the number of air defenses of the Armed Forces of Ukraine and the range of modern missiles, as well as satellite reconnaissance of the enemy, the Su-34 could more confidently destroy a wrecked tank if Sushka had modern high-precision long-range, but powerful enough missiles. Because if you use only old bombs, there is a risk of your own loss during operations in the front line.
        But you can clear the area to gain time with the help of Tornado.
        Of course, we will expect that even if combat tests of the "Armata" are carried out, they will not be able to knock it out, and if they do damage it, then not much, and without damaging the crews, and with an affordable opportunity and confident provision of evacuation to the rear.
  29. iouris
    iouris 25 December 2022 14: 57
    0
    So I thought, having familiarized myself: is it not too promising?
  30. Ax Matt
    Ax Matt 25 December 2022 15: 02
    0
    "... and away we go!" (feature film "Gentlemen")
  31. Nikolaevich I
    Nikolaevich I 25 December 2022 15: 03
    -5
    What can I say? request Nothing ! recourse Is there anything to remember! 1. How the Nazis have already "destroyed" dozens of "Armata" in 2014-15. ! So, what secret should be kept in "Armata" now? request 2. How in the 30s of the last century, the Deutsches scared the Britons and Gauls with their "tanks" (cars with crammed plywood "hulls"!) ... 3. Can they already produce inflatable models of "Armata"? And they sent them to Ukraine to lure the DRG, like flies for a hectare ... years with cutlets!
  32. pariarg
    pariarg 25 December 2022 15: 22
    -2
    Shapira to believe - do not respect yourself.
    This Russophobe is always engaged in sabotage.
  33. Authority
    Authority 25 December 2022 15: 25
    +3
    Quote: svp67
    It is interesting if, before the first use of "Tigers" or "ISs", this would also have been reported ... the correspondent would have lived for a long time

    Interestingly, there were the same number of sofa experts during the Great Patriotic War?
    Or thanks to satellite intelligence, NATO would never have known about this?
    Or is the existence of the Artmata tank classified information?
  34. lubesky
    lubesky 25 December 2022 15: 27
    -1
    If we compare the cost with, for example, Abrams, in the most expensive configuration of 8 million, then it’s just interesting what is there for 5 million? Considering that salaries at Uralvagonzavod and related enterprises are not comparable, and our prices for components should be several times cheaper. Or is the difference that Abrams is a very backward generation, and Armata is a breakthrough, forgive a breakthrough in the class?
    1. Rustic
      Rustic 25 December 2022 17: 43
      +1
      Abrams, in the most expensive configuration of 8 million, it’s just interesting what is there for 5 million?
      So there and in abrams out of 8, at least 5 drank lobbyists. And what about our "effective" ones, just so much worse?
      1. lubesky
        lubesky 25 December 2022 18: 02
        0
        Quote from Rustic
        And what about our "effective" ones, just so much worse?

        Your sarcasm is appropriate here and I agree with it. I also note that there are different levels of international corporations both in terms of importance and industries. But even at the level of the corporation of power tools and hardware of the Swiss "Würth" (this is for example) - I have never seen an attempt to buy out any of our "effective" top managers ...
  35. tank64rus
    tank64rus 25 December 2022 15: 35
    0
    All such tests must be carried out by experienced persons. At one time, an experimental company of tanks was created when deciding whether to replace the T-34-76 with the T-34-85. It fought for about a month, and only then was it decided to launch the T-34-85 series. In the USSR, the performer answered for such things with his head, as well as for many others. In war, as in war.
    1. Rustic
      Rustic 25 December 2022 17: 48
      +1
      All such tests must be carried out by experienced persons.
      So it’s not said anywhere who is being coordinated in these tanks. It is quite possible that there are also crews from seconded factory testers. After all, even they need to run around, get used to the fact that this is no longer a factory training ground, and they will shoot the same in response.
  36. Sadok
    Sadok 25 December 2022 16: 01
    0
    evening chime... how can he be trusted?
  37. serezhasoldatow
    serezhasoldatow 25 December 2022 16: 10
    -3
    And what else can be reported to the owner of the Ukrainians and Bandera?
  38. faiver
    faiver 25 December 2022 16: 15
    +1
    said Russian TV presenter and journalist Vladimir Solovyov, who visited the front line
    When does he have time to go to the front line? he is every evening on the second channel without days off ....
    1. Sergej1972
      Sergej1972 25 December 2022 18: 36
      0
      On Fridays and Saturdays, he does not broadcast on Russia-1.
  39. Dmitrii
    Dmitrii 25 December 2022 16: 26
    -4
    Quote: svp67
    It is interesting if, before the first use of "Tigers" or "ISs", this would also have been reported ... the correspondent would have lived for a long time

    "Tiger" is an extremely navator car. The first trafey tank of this type is in a museum, apparently in London. It was damaged in Africa, and only because the crew fled, leaving the car with a jammed turret, from being hit by an English shell, the tank remained intact and, one might say, unharmed, since other tanks could not really oppose it. "IS" is the answer to the Germans, although at the beginning of the war we already had KV-1s, but they were clearly inferior to the "Tiger" in terms of the gun system. So why am I ... There is no point in sending T-14s to the NWO zone. Yes, he has a lot of chewiness, but in fact he can be easily knocked out like the rest of the technique, he will not give a significant advantage in battle, only a media effect. But it can also be negative.
    1. Dost
      Dost 26 December 2022 16: 24
      -2
      Did you read this from a parallel story? Or they took him there. Even Wikipedia did not think of such a thing, to carry such nonsense.
  40. Pananders
    Pananders 25 December 2022 16: 32
    -3
    Armata is a very expensive parade toy.
    1. Expert
      Expert 27 December 2022 22: 10
      0
      So you are against dragging him to combat trials?
  41. digger
    digger 25 December 2022 16: 43
    -3
    Well, yes ... it remains for the full set .. it’s shameful to run and leave the armats intact to the enemy and then heroically reward this future crew who has run away with a medal for courage. What are they doing ... with such cowardice and leaving hundreds of pieces of equipment ... They left the T-90M intact to the enemy ... and here the armata will soon be given to the amers for research. I would understand if the crews were motivated like Wagnerians and didn’t give up alive and blew up the tank .. and there’s nothing here ... they almost immediately run away.
    1. Woodman
      Woodman 26 December 2022 08: 57
      -1
      Quote: Digger
      T-90M left the enemy intact ...

      Exclusively from the words of the enemy, who (the enemy) could not make him (T90M) move on his own.
  42. sir Garry
    sir Garry 25 December 2022 17: 01
    +1
    Question: Why the hell do you need a beautiful tank that is silly to send into battle?
    1. Expert
      Expert 27 December 2022 23: 40
      0
      I'll answer you with a few follow-up questions:
      1) For some reason, everyone considers the cost of a tank, but no one considers the cost of its development. But some things are impossible to count at all! Tell me, how much is the painting "The Ninth Wave"? How often do comparable masterpieces appear in world art? How long does it take (!) to even draw such a picture? Will the enemies give us time for new development?
      2) The Mig-25 aircraft cost several million rubles (I don’t know how much). But, for some reason, when the traitor Belenko stole him to Japan, we are suddenly told that the country has been damaged for a trillion rubles (with a dollar value of 60 kopecks)! How can this be?
      3) NATO has not 1, but several new tanks! But, for some reason, none of them sent to the battle in Ukraine to the line of contact: neither the latest modification of Abrams, nor the Leopard, nor the modernized Leclerc. Tell me, are they stupid people? Why do they need SO MANY beautiful (in terms of cost) tanks that are stupid to send into battle?
      4) When you play the fool (if you had to), do you start walking with a trump king or a trump ace?
      If now you show the enemy everything that is between the "sapper" blades and nuclear weapons, then only nuclear weapons will remain. Moreover, but so far, apart from the Himars MLRS and a couple of obsolete products, we have not seen anything in the huge range of NATO even in applications, but they have made a lot of things and a lot of things continue to be developed!
      PS: If something was perceived wrong, then there was no task to offend you.
  43. Ponimatel
    Ponimatel 25 December 2022 17: 04
    -1
    Purely propaganda. There will be no Almaty in the foreseeable future. Accordingly, military trials are needed like a dog's fifth leg.
  44. puskarinkis
    puskarinkis 25 December 2022 17: 28
    -4
    The tank is new, but it creaks like an old one! ))))))))))) Subconsciously you expect from the newest tank a smooth, quiet ride, clean armor, alloy wheels, cup holders, air conditioners ... ))))))
  45. Alex Mann
    Alex Mann 25 December 2022 17: 54
    -3
    1. Solovyov bought with the giblets of a journalist. Previously, this Jew was where it was more profitable - in the opposition, then he defected to the side of the Kremlin's forces surrounding the government (pro-Westerners).
    2. Armats were filmed at a training ground in Russia, where tankers are trained. What does the absence of tactical signs on equipment indicate.
    3. Rudolfovich is never a patriot, as he portrays himself on TV.
  46. Daddy pig
    Daddy pig 26 December 2022 01: 33
    0
    The main thing is to conduct combat coordination with those support vehicles. So that they were evacuated more quickly than during the first demonstration on Red Square.
  47. Igor Smirnov
    Igor Smirnov 26 December 2022 03: 45
    -2
    Quote from Savage3000
    In theory, the Armata has an active defense complex against anti-tank missiles. So stugnas and other javelins should not get into it

    The last Merkava also has a KAZ, but this did not stop birds from flying into it. Much less often, but still.
  48. Sergei N 58912062
    Sergei N 58912062 26 December 2022 03: 51
    -2
    It's high time to test the T-14 tank in real combat. It will be especially interesting to look at the work of the KAZ "Afganit" against the Jawelin ATGM, Stugna-P and the NLAW grenade launcher.
    1. Konnick
      Konnick 26 December 2022 06: 55
      +1
      It will be especially interesting to look at the work of the KAZ "Afganit" against the Jawelin ATGM, Stugna-P and the NLAW grenade launcher.

      They are just looking for testers there, an advantage for those interested in the work of Afghanit.
    2. Expert
      Expert 27 December 2022 23: 48
      0
      Considering that samples of all these Javelins have already been captured by our troops, it is easier and safer to do such a check at the training ground, on our territory.
  49. Igor Smirnov
    Igor Smirnov 26 December 2022 03: 52
    -6
    There is NO Armata tank as such. There are demo samples. etc.. Moreover, all these Russian "analogues" turned out to be dummies in fact. Well, except that certain types of missiles have proven themselves well. Now the presence of advanced surveillance, communication, target detection, guidance systems is driving. That is, something that Armata is very unlikely to it may be advanced with this because of the sanctions and the complete degradation of Russian microelectronics.

    And for his propaganda activities (quite, by the way, she is weak, like the ENTIRE Russian media beau monde, no - they completely lost the information war to Ukraine) Solovyov-Shapiro gets very well. And for much more money (although he is not worth it) Shapiro was bought out and in connection with which he changed his views on life by 180 degrees once.
  50. nemez
    nemez 26 December 2022 08: 32
    0
    I'm not special, but I would take 4 armats, 4 -t-72 or t-90 for each. One "mercury" for them. And a couple of terminators for each group. With the support of armored personnel carriers and infantry, you can break through the defense at a time - two. and if the air is also covered, then freedom of action is generally