Military Review

The Ukrainian and American commands had disagreements over the choice of the location of the Patriot air defense system

48
The Ukrainian and American commands had disagreements over the choice of the location of the Patriot air defense system

Foreign sources report that the US military will take into account the situation to determine the exact location of the Patriot anti-aircraft missile system in Ukraine.


To this end, the Pentagon is already gathering into a single information field information about how many missiles have really been able to shoot down over the past few weeks by the calculations of air defense systems from those actually launched by Russia. At the same time, data is being collected regarding the approximately percentage of cases of SAMs (anti-aircraft guided missiles) of the Armed Forces of Ukraine reacted to the so-called "tricks" - Russian missiles without a warhead, as well as without information sensors, and to drones without a payload or with a minimum load of this kind.

Against this background, information appeared that the Ukrainian and American military were disagreeing about the specific location of the future deployment of the Patriot air defense system, which is going to be delivered to Ukraine. The Ukrainian command proposes to place an air defense system in the suburbs of Kyiv in order to cover with its help a complex of government buildings, as well as the territory of key law enforcement agencies - the Ministry of Defense, the General Staff, the building of the SBU, the headquarters of the National Guard, etc.

The Pentagon believes that it is too early to talk about a specific location. It is possible that the United States believes that the Russian Armed Forces do not plan to strike at government complexes in Kyiv. But the option of covering strategically important industrial and energy facilities is being considered. In particular, the possibility of placing the Patriot air defense system in a city with a large industrial facility, where Ukraine could start large-scale military production, such as long-range missiles, is being considered.
48 comments
Ad

Subscribe to our Telegram channel, regularly additional information about the special operation in Ukraine, a large amount of information, videos, something that does not fall on the site: https://t.me/topwar_official

Information
Dear reader, to leave comments on the publication, you must sign in.
  1. YOUR
    YOUR 24 December 2022 15: 10
    +16
    Place Geraniums within reach and transmit the coordinates more precisely.
    1. Terenin
      Terenin 24 December 2022 15: 12
      +10
      Quote: YOUR
      Place Geraniums within reach and transmit the coordinates more precisely.

      Yeah, and there will be a complete ... consensus yes
    2. tihonmarine
      tihonmarine 24 December 2022 15: 18
      +4
      Quote: YOUR
      Place Geraniums within reach and transmit the coordinates more precisely.

      The coordinates will be exact - "where the plant is, there is Patriot".
      1. Fisherman
        Fisherman 24 December 2022 16: 00
        +3
        Eh, it would be nice to have such a "target designation" .... "leakage" of the Patriots is already directly hinting at their shame in a real war. I am sure that they will be placed away from the cities (and onlookers) so that no one can film how they smear and mow! Moreover, ours have already presented the new air-based Krasnopol! Now the depth of destruction of objects in the rear of the crop will be limited only by the flight of Orlans (control range up to 120 km) and our aircraft! The free hunt for MLRS like Hymars begins!
    3. Argon
      Argon 24 December 2022 18: 36
      +2
      We should probably hit where there are no "patriots", and they, in turn, quarrel. They said to protect Kyiv, but there is no need for factories)))
  2. Mavrikiy
    Mavrikiy 24 December 2022 15: 11
    +1
    the Ukrainian and US military have disagreements regarding the specific location of the future deployment of the Patriot air defense system,
    "Don't fight, girls" feel
    1. yuriy55
      yuriy55 24 December 2022 15: 43
      +5
      The Ukrainian and American commands had disagreements over the choice of the location of the Patriot air defense system


      Asked the Patriots
      To protect Kyiv
      And they don't know - idiots -
      Where should they place them.

      PMC specialists
      Everything, as it should, will be done.
      Set closer to the border -
      Give them legs!
      laughing
  3. Silver99
    Silver99 24 December 2022 15: 12
    0
    Predictably, the United States does not intend to defend the entire territory of Ukraine, especially since one division will not do this, they will cover their advisers in Kyiv, besides, small-sized low-flying targets such as "moped" may well cover these vaunted "Patriots" and, most likely, most importantly, the Americans they fear that at the forefront this complex may well get to the Russian army as a trophy.
    1. isv000
      isv000 24 December 2022 15: 18
      +1
      Quote from Silver99
      and most probably most importantly, the Americans are afraid that this complex may well get to the Russian army as a trophy at the forefront.

      It's time to announce the price list for the equipment. The other day, Ohvitzers from the 80th were captured, according to rumors, subordinates sold ...
      1. Sith
        Sith 24 December 2022 15: 38
        +2
        Yes ... if you make good prices for officers ... I think they will drag the general ... and not his own ... NATO =)
      2. Vladimir61
        Vladimir61 24 December 2022 16: 39
        -1
        Quote: isv000
        according to rumors, subordinates sold ...

        But in fact, they took BARS-13 scouts in combat positions!
        1. isv000
          isv000 24 December 2022 16: 55
          -2
          Quote: Vladimir61
          But in fact, they took BARS-13 scouts in combat positions!

          Did I say that they were brought to the reception point?!
          1. tihonmarine
            tihonmarine 24 December 2022 18: 14
            0
            Quote: isv000
            Did I say that they were brought to the reception point?!

            It was necessary to double the price twice, then they would bring it to the reception point.
            "Nothing personal, just business, pani ofvitsuru!" - said Mykola, surrendering his battalion commander.
            1. isv000
              isv000 24 December 2022 19: 39
              0
              hi Oh, how they minus, demons, it means they hit the mark! yes
    2. yuriy55
      yuriy55 24 December 2022 15: 49
      +1
      Quote from Silver99
      and most probably most importantly, the Americans are afraid that this complex may well get to the Russian army as a trophy at the forefront.

      The most important thing may be the confirmation of the "highest" technical characteristics of the "Patriot" complex ... feel
      1. isv000
        isv000 24 December 2022 19: 41
        -1
        Quote: yuriy55
        The most important thing may be the confirmation of the "highest" technical characteristics of the "Patriot" complex ...

        No Patriot will be brought. There will be cartoons of successful work to show and I will be able to yell ...
    3. alexoff
      alexoff 24 December 2022 16: 03
      -2
      There will be too many people in Kyiv who want to transfer the coordinates, rather Galicia will be defended
    4. Argon
      Argon 24 December 2022 18: 38
      0
      The Pindas will defend their interests. Most likely a Biden family business.
    5. orionvitt
      orionvitt 24 December 2022 21: 16
      0
      Quote from Silver99
      The United States does not intend to defend the entire territory of Ukraine,

      I predict that they will be placed somewhere in Lviv. Away from the front, closer to the NATO control centers in Poland.
  4. Thrifty
    Thrifty 24 December 2022 15: 13
    +1
    It is immediately necessary to turn into dust any enterprise at which at least one nut is made for the army of dryers, where the repair of military equipment is possible. And at the same time cover the buildings of their security service, the ministry of defense, the prosecutor's office, the council, the military barracks and the hospital ...
  5. isv000
    isv000 24 December 2022 15: 13
    +1
    The horses started biting the bit?! Along the way, they will soon begin to cook compote, Ze remember ...
  6. antivirus
    antivirus 24 December 2022 15: 14
    0
    The United States is right - you need to take money from the Indian (cover his metallurgist factories around the horn), and let Bandera jump into caches from air raid alarms.
  7. alex-pmr
    alex-pmr 24 December 2022 15: 14
    -1
    For a dagger, there is no difference where the Patriots will be located ..
  8. Roma 1977
    Roma 1977 24 December 2022 15: 25
    +2
    Don't argue girls. There is a neutral option. Alabino is an excellent place to house the Patriots.
  9. Vladimir Vladimirovich Vorontsov
    Vladimir Vladimirovich Vorontsov 24 December 2022 15: 33
    +2
    “The Ukrainian and American command had disagreements over the choice of the location of the Patriot air defense system” -

    ***

    - Consult with Surovikin. He will tell you where it is more convenient ...

    ***
  10. incoggnoto
    incoggnoto 24 December 2022 15: 51
    +1
    one complex will never be able to provide even meager protection, so it’s not clear why the States took such a step as an option just a formality ..
    1. Egoza
      Egoza 24 December 2022 16: 17
      -1
      Quote from incoggnoto
      it’s not clear why the States took such a step, as an option it’s just a formality ..

      Well, as ... asked - get ... one little thing. "We confirm that the US is with you! True, at a distance."
    2. Iris
      Iris 24 December 2022 19: 21
      -3
      Will deliver on the rise. First, the PAC-1 battery, let's see the efficiency. Then the PAC-2 division, and then the PAC-3 with a range of 150 km. And our falcons from Voronezh will shoot ..
  11. rocket757
    rocket757 24 December 2022 16: 01
    0
    The Ukrainian and American commands had disagreements over the choice of the location of the Patriot air defense system
    . Come on, they’ll just ask the Kukuevskys what and where minke whales will be placed fool
  12. Egeny
    Egeny 24 December 2022 16: 01
    0
    Quote: yuriy55
    Set closer to the border -
    Give them legs!

    I like.)
  13. zenion
    zenion 24 December 2022 16: 16
    -1
    It is best to place Patriots in cemeteries where they belong.
  14. tralflot1832
    tralflot1832 24 December 2022 16: 17
    0
    The Americans will put the Patriot in Ukraine in the place where it will have the least chance of being destroyed in a short time. They are very afraid of the headlines of the world media "In Ukraine, the Patriot air defense system, the world's first complex with anti-missile defense elements, was destroyed !! By the way, more than 10000 pieces, warehouses full.
    1. Andy_nsk
      Andy_nsk 24 December 2022 16: 40
      -1
      The Americans will put the Patriot in Ukraine in the place where it will have the least chance of being destroyed in a short time

      Agree. And this place is Lviv region. And over Poland they will barrage planes with AWACS-cat, give the control center. And the Patriot will turn on the radar for radiation only when it is necessary to shoot down the target, and nothing threatens the air defense system at that time.
      As an option Odessa region. (with AWACS over the World Cup).
      1. tralflot1832
        tralflot1832 24 December 2022 17: 00
        -2
        Odessa is not the best option, but the Lviv province is preferable. The flight time of our missiles is longer.
    2. isv000
      isv000 24 December 2022 17: 02
      0
      Quote: tralflot1832
      The Americans will put the Patriot in Ukraine in the place where it will have the least chance of being destroyed in a short time.

      It is a matter of honor for our VKS to grunt this invincible, you can not regret the Dagger, a matter of principle! The triangle will be drunk, for three of them, you give!
  15. fa2998
    fa2998 24 December 2022 16: 43
    0
    The "Patriot" has nothing to do in Kyiv. Our rocket men are not interested in the General Staff of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, the Ministry of Defense of Ukraine, the Rada, Government buildings, the Presidential Administration, etc. It is probably forbidden to touch the authorities of Ukraine! request hi hi
    1. isv000
      isv000 24 December 2022 17: 06
      -1
      Quote: fa2998
      The "Patriot" has nothing to do in Kyiv. Our rocket men are not interested in the General Staff of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, the Ministry of Defense of Ukraine, the Rada, Government buildings, the Presidential Administration, etc. It is probably forbidden to touch the authorities of Ukraine! request hi hi

      And what's the point of spoiling the dolls if the puppeteer makes new ones?
  16. nik-mazur
    nik-mazur 24 December 2022 16: 49
    +1
    Ukrainian and US military disagree about the specific location of the future deployment of the Patriot air defense system
    It seems to me that the best thing to do is, as in a joke about fishing: “We don’t take nets, we don’t get off the bus.”
    In relation to the situation under discussion: do not send the Patriot, cut the money. If the remnants of dill air defense bring down something, then say that it is a Patriot. If they don’t shoot down, then say that the Patriot is successfully covering up a particularly important and highly secret facility in a completely different place.
    1. isv000
      isv000 24 December 2022 17: 09
      0
      Quote from: nik-mazur
      In relation to the situation under discussion: do not send the Patriot, cut the money.

      Partial option. There will be cartoons showing how the Patriot successfully brings down flying saucers ...
      1. nik-mazur
        nik-mazur 24 December 2022 17: 44
        0
        Quote: isv000
        There will be cartoons showing how the Patriot successfully brings down
        By the way, yes. Hollywood is in business too...
    2. Argon
      Argon 24 December 2022 18: 42
      +1
      They are all like that. Main propaganda. They have almost all the media and social messengers. They can write anything. Plankton eats.
  17. Dmitry Karabanov
    Dmitry Karabanov 24 December 2022 19: 02
    0
    Poorly, I understand the meaning of placing one complex (well, except for PR). He will not be able to reliably cover even the center of Kuev, it costs just an astronomical amount and, undoubtedly, will become the No. 1 target for the "Dagger". Although for us - let them supply this "Patriot" than the same "Haymars".
  18. Zaurbek
    Zaurbek 24 December 2022 21: 22
    0
    If we do not bomb the complexes of government buildings and the General Staff. Why protect them?
  19. Petr_Koldunov
    Petr_Koldunov 24 December 2022 22: 20
    0
    If they want to put the complex on the cover of the government quarter... then it turns out that the Ukrainian command really believes that the Patriot is better than the S-300???
    Figasse there they were brainwashed by their American friends! laughing
  20. Alex_5
    Alex_5 25 December 2022 14: 26
    0
    Russia also needs to scientifically consider all the most likely options for placing Patriot in Ukraine with the best options for destruction.
  21. Alex_5
    Alex_5 25 December 2022 14: 30
    0
    It's good that they believe that the RF Armed Forces will not hit government agencies and general staffs, the Zelik bunker. In war, as in war. They also hit the headquarters where Gerasimov was supposed to be, bash on bash.
  22. Venara
    Venara 26 December 2022 12: 39
    0
    In fact, after the strike on Rogozin, it is quite acceptable to respond to the odious figures of the leadership of "SCHENENEVMERLIKOV". I wonder who leaked the information? And the "patriots", if they find qualified techies, then something can work out. But without a scaled air defense system, it's all a gamble. We need complexes of short, medium and long range, with qualified calculations and management. All this was in Ukraine, but I doubt that there is now!
  23. AC130 Gunship
    AC130 Gunship 27 December 2022 20: 31
    0
    When an air defense operator sees a dot on the screen, it is impossible to recognize whether it is a blank or a missile with a warhead.