Dmitry Rogozin, after being wounded, said that it was a matter of principle for him to return to Donbass

The wounded ex-head of Roskosmos Dmitry Rogozin told reporters that after recovery he definitely plans to return to Donbass.

According to Rogozin, for him it is now a matter of principle.

Recall that Dmitry Rogozin was wounded last Wednesday evening during the shelling of the Shesh-Besh hotel in Donetsk by Ukrainian artillery.

As the head of a group of military advisers and the scientific and technical center "Tsar's Wolves", Dmitry Rogozin was on a working trip. At the same time, a number of sources write that on the day of the artillery shelling, he celebrated his birthday. There were three hits of 155 mm shells on the building of the hotel and restaurant. The fragments hit the back and head. One of them - up to a centimeter in size, as reported by doctors, ended up in the area of ​​​​the vertebrae, which so far makes the operation problematic.

It is assumed that the shelling was carried out after the APU received intelligence, and high-precision 155mm Excalibur projectiles were used.

Apparently, the Ukrainian military knew well where and for what purpose they were firing artillery fire. Undoubtedly, the shelling was carried out on someone's tip. The SBU has already claimed responsibility for carrying out this terrorist act. As a result of the shelling, along with Rogozin, several more people were injured. Two military advisers accompanying the ex-head of Roscosmos were seriously injured. One of them subsequently died.

In view of the peculiarities of the injuries received, it was decided to carry out the operation in Moscow. Dmitry Rogozin, according to some reports, has already been transported to one of the Moscow clinics.

Comments

[Alien From]

There was too much of it, don't you think?

[B-15]

No, I do not think so.
I had a sideways experience with his activities. And I can say, unlike hat-throwers or all-weeders, he rarely made mistakes in making decisions. And these decisions were for the good of the country.
Wishing him and his teammates a speedy recovery!

[Vasilenko Vladimir]

Quote: B-15

unlike the hat throwers or all-weeders, he rarely made mistakes in making decisions.

oh no need for fairy tales

Quote: B-15

And these decisions were for the good of the country.

examples in the studio

[KCA]

Please - name the number of unsuccessful spacecraft launches under Rogozin? Figures in the studio like zero?

[Vasilenko Vladimir]

Quote: KCA

Please - name the number of unsuccessful spacecraft launches under Rogozin? Figures in the studio like zero?

In 2020, 114 space launches took place, of which 17 were Russian. Domestic rockets were launched seven times from the Baikonur and Plesetsk cosmodromes, two from Kourou in French Guiana and one from Vostochny. Thus, according to the results of the outgoing year, Russia ranked third in terms of the number of launched space rockets after American (44 launches) and Chinese (39).
At the same time, an anti-record has been set in modern Russian history in terms of the number of launches per year (since 1992). And if we take into account Soviet history, then a smaller number of launches was only at the dawn of cosmonautics from 1957 to 1961 - from two to nine annually.

[KCA]

Does quantity somehow mean quality? Gagarin flew in 1961, but how many launches of dogs and mannequins were there before one flight? I don't remember, but at least 10, so what? Who counts the dogs? Everyone knows Gagarin

[Vasilenko Vladimir]

Quote: KCA

Does quantity somehow mean quality?

understand what statistics are you aware of? if with a hundred launches you have 3 accidents, and with 10 more than one it does not mean an improvement in quality

[zloybond]

Yes. and now they are deorbiting. And those collected during his reign but sent into space are now also descending. Marriage genius.

[skeptick2]

Quote: KCA

Please - name the number of unsuccessful spacecraft launches under Rogozin?

Please, name the number of spacecraft or carriers ("Do not mention the Angara, it is on the LCI) launched into the series under Rogozin.
The fact that the royal "seven" and (partially accident-free) Chelomeev's "Proton", made back in Soviet times and in another state, flies without accidents cannot be credited to Rogozin.

[KCA]

What is the 7-ka Korolevskaya? Well then, write that the F-22, F-35 are ordinary gliders of the Wright brothers, but what's wrong? There are wings, there is an engine, it means the same thing, no, you can’t write about it, but do they pay for 7-ku? Iznt it?

[skeptick2]

Quote: KCA

What is the 7-ka Korolevskaya?

Yes, this is it, sir. RN, created by the genius of the Queen. In the last century.
And all subsequent "Soyuz" - "Soyuz-L", "Soyuz-M", "Soyuz-U", "Soyuz-FG", "Soyuz-2", "Soyuz-ST" - is just modifications good old royal P-7. And no replacement of the control system from analogue to digital and other minor alterations in the process of modernization will refute this fact.
By the way, the development of the 11A511 machine, which later received the name "Soyuz", began precisely with the filing of Sergei Pavlovich. This is so, note. For general development.

[KCA]

Why don't we remember Tsiolkovsky? It was his concept of a rocket that takes the apparatus into space that was used by Korolev? 7 is obtained by the works of Tsiolkovsky, isn't it? But no, the Union is a 7, and a 7 is never a concept of Tsiolkovsky, right? Crap what you can, and piss on the truth?

[skeptick2]

In this case, it would be more appropriate to mention not Tsiolkovsky, but von Braun. It was the FAU-2 developments that were used by Korolev to create the R-1, the prototype of the R-2.
We do not mention Tsiolkovsky for the same reason that we do not remember the Chinese powder rockets that flew back in the XNUMXth century. For the same reason, we do not recall the invention of gunpowder. And all three of Newton's laws. And the deeds that took place under King Peas.
Tip: do not climb into the depths of centuries. Limit yourself to a time period of just under a century. And life will immediately become easier.
By the way, which one concept to create a launch vehicle issued on Mount Tsiolkovsky? Do you even understand the meaning of this term? It should not be confused with theoretical calculations and justification of the principle of multi-stage carrier. These are completely different things.

[KCA]

Are you still on Friday night? V-2 is a single-stage ballistic missile, but it was Tsiolkovsky who thought that the launch vehicle should be multi-stage with detachable stages, and it was the prototype of the R-7 that drew

[skeptick2]

Did I state otherwise? It was with the R-1 (8A11) that Korolev began. More precisely, with the V-2. Or did I challenge Tsiolkovsky's theoretical calculations? Or its formula?
But what does this have to do with the first comment? Why divert the conversation away? I asked a very simple question: which spacecraft or launch vehicles went into production under Rogozin? The answer is clear - none.
Everything that, according to you, flew without an accident with him, is the fruit of the work of Korolev and Chelomey. To which Rogozin personally has nothing to do. Yes, the "seven" flies, in principle, without accidents. Yes, she has a fantastic VBR. What does Rogozin have to do with it? What is his merit? Did he change the concept of this carrier? Changed its architecture? The layout of the first stage? Proposed a new pair of fuel instead of a pair of "oxygen-kerosene"? He added new engines to the "seven" (by the way, how many new rocket engines were created under Rogozin except for RD-0124? Don't know? I will answer - not a single one.)? It seems not, as there was a bunch of Glushkov’s RD-107 / RD-108, it’s worth it.
What does Rogozin have to do with Korolev? Why attach him to the genius of Soviet cosmonautics?
Only one thing can be credited to Rogozin: he did not completely ruin the Russian space. So they don’t give orders for this and they don’t erect monuments. That's why they put him in this job.
But there is no need to boast of trouble-free launches under Roozin. It is not his merit. And first of all, the people who created unique devices and the people who today conscientiously work in the shops.

[KCA]

Korolev started in the 30s at the GIRD, Brown, who was a background, then still reading the works of Tsiolkovsky and "From a Cannon to the Moon"

[Scientist]

Well, the fuel has been changed. Naphthyl.
And so, which of the leaders of Roscosmos can be called, if not successful, then at least useful? Almost every year they change plans, programs, directions of work. And each time, hundreds of thousands, if not millions, are allocated for this. And all why? Because there is no such program in my head. Unlike the Queen.

[zloybond]

Yes, it can be seen how the satellites assembled with it, after the last launches, only go out of orbit. Well, a PR party in honor of the DR in a hotel with a bunch of invitees and wounded is the pinnacle of an advertising campaign. The whole rear knew that the royal wolf had arrived and was walking.

[Grandfather]

Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir

Dmitry Rogozin, after being wounded, said that it was a matter of principle for him to return to Donbass

spending millions ... to the front.

[runway-1]

In general, about Roskosmos briefly, but quite eloquently:

Statement by the head of Roscosmos Yuri Borisov: Moscow. 21 December. INTERFAX.RU

"Today, the financial and economic situation in Roscosmos suggests that, to put it mildly, not everything is in order here. In 2021, the state corporation's loss was 31 billion," Borisov said in an interview with the Vedomosti newspaper.
"Given the situation that developed after February 24 - the rejection of a number of international contracts, including for the supply of engines, launch services - everything has worsened. The projected losses by the end of 2022 are more than 50 billion rubles," he said.

[Nyrobsky]

Quote: B-15

I had a sideways experience with his activities. And I can say, unlike hat-throwers or all-weeders, he rarely made mistakes in making decisions. And these decisions were for the good of the country.

It's just that in a situation with shelling, Rogozin should be perceived not as a subject of politics and evaluate his business and moral qualities, but as an object for which Banderlogs opened a hunt, as a result of which not only he himself was injured, but suffered and the people who were nearby died. It turns out that by his appearance with a banquet, he provoked this shelling, since the banderlogs knew that there would be no ordinary fighters in the hall, and the guests would be represented by representatives of the regional authorities.

Quote: B-15

Wishing him and his teammates a speedy recovery!

Here, yes, everything is human, let him recover.

[Gnefredov]

That's right. For example, the system for monitoring the preparation of a product for launch, organized and put into practice by Rogozin, showed its best side. Since its use, not a single start-up crash has occurred. But they won’t write about it, because it’s customary to scold Rogozin (in the media) (fortunately, he gives reasons himself), and those who say a good word for him will be anathematized and burned at a virtual fire.
PS However, "lunaborers" also refer to those who know that the Americans were on the moon (they will peck and sweep under the carpet).

[Scientist]

What is the control system introduced by Rogozin? More details, please.

[Gnefredov]

It all started in 2012 with a government decree on improving the assembly quality at Roscosmos, which Roscosmos successfully failed. But under Rogozin, this problem was solved and emergency launches ended precisely under him. I cannot deny myself the pleasure of quoting "Made by Us" on the topic of Rogozin's activities at Roskosmos.
--
Let me remind you that Rogozin headed Roscosmos on May 24, 2018, that is, a little more than 4 years ago. In fact, his very appointment was caused by the most serious problems in the industry that "professionals" could not resolve. By the way, I think you don’t even remember their names, because when the industry degraded and collapsed, its leaders were not particularly interesting. Everything went according to plan. It was Rogozin who caused a wave of criticism, but for some reason, by the strangest coincidence, it was precisely when he began to "stir" this "aspen plant". Rogozin understood that if you do not restore order in the industry, do not tear thieves away from the feeder, do not modernize and optimize production processes, do not carry out the rehabilitation of enterprises, then there will be no development.

I have compiled a list of Rogozin's real achievements, but behind each of them is precisely this routine work of restoring order in a deeply corrupt industry that works according to long-outdated patterns.

1. "Angara". Transfer of production, correction of shortcomings and comments, optimization of production, completion of tests, first launch with a payload.

2. Output of the MLM module ("Science"). Completion of a long-term construction, the most complicated operation for the withdrawal and docking. Let me remind you that at one time, due to the gouging and mess that was under the previous leaders, chips were brought into the pipelines of the module. This chip has been fought since 2013. The module had to be practically sorted out screw by screw. But this did not help either ... however, this fascinating story deserves a separate story, it is important that in the end the long-suffering "Science" was nevertheless brought to mind.

3. Reliability of launches. The last accident occurred on October 11, 2018 with the Soyuz-FG launch vehicle, which was supposed to launch the Soyuz MS-10 manned spacecraft. Fortunately, the crew rescue system worked perfectly and the crew survived. Since then, 59 launches without accidents. This is a record in the history of astronautics!

4. Launch and successful operation of the Spektr-RG space observatory. The most complex scientific apparatus, the most difficult mission to deliver it to the Lagrange point L-2. But also the most difficult part of the mission on earth, where the collection, processing and study of gigantic amounts of data is organized. Imagine how difficult it is to get a terabyte of data from a lander that is 1,5 million kilometers from Earth, almost four times as far from the Moon. I will surprise you - but there is no Wi-Fi.

5. Development and successful testing of the Sarmat missile system. Yes, little was said about this, due to the secrecy of the development, but now it becomes clear what the most difficult work was done. The world still admires the Voyevoda ICBM, calling it "Satan", and the "Sarmat" is even more powerful - it is capable of hitting the United States from any direction, and not just from the north. It's like designing a new launch vehicle from scratch.

6. Completion of the construction of the first stage of the Vostochny cosmodrome. Also a very difficult task, but as it turned out, not only in technical terms. I had to unravel the most complicated chain of theft, several dozens (according to various estimates from 32 to 58) people were convicted. This made it possible not only to complete the first stage, but also to build new work in such a way that today the construction of the second stage is proceeding without any complaints. There are no complaints not on terms, nor on quality, nor on expenditure of funds.

7. Output of the universal node module "Prichal". Another ISS module that has been launched recently. It was ready as early as 2014, but has since been on the ground awaiting launch. And only in 2021 did it become part of the ISS.

All this was done in 4 years, and this is only what was really brought to mind. There are many more important and complex projects that are being implemented right now, and on which real results have been achieved. And, by the way, many of them are tied together. Therefore, the completion of some does not make sense without the completion of others. But about them next time, and the new head, Yuri Borisov, will have to complete them.

There are also smaller, routine projects, for example, on the development of satellite constellations GLONASS, "Gonets", "Express", remote sensing, etc. There is also work on the modernization of launch vehicles, for example, now all missiles have a Russian-made digital control system, instead of an analog one production systems of the neighboring state. The spaceships have also been upgraded, which in total made it possible to develop fast flight patterns to the ISS. Or, say, the transfer of Soyuz-2 rockets to a new fuel - naphthyl. There is the work of Roscosmos in the interests of the Ministry of Defense and the security of our country, about which you will not learn the details, but which is a very significant part of the activities of the state corporation. But I don’t write all this into achievements, in fact it’s all the routine work of Roscosmos.

[Scientist]

I'm not saying that everything was bad with him. But you overdid it with a list of his successes.
The transfer of the production of the Angara will come around for more than one year. Do you think that qualified specialists from Moscow went to Omsk in formation? But experience and qualifications are the main thing for trouble-free starts.
The development of Sarmat was actually completed before the arrival of Rogozin. And the organization of production also started before him.
Soyuz 2 received a digital control system 15 years ago, if not more. And the development was started in the late 90s.
And short flight patterns to the ISS became possible precisely thanks to digital systems, and not to Rogozin - it became possible to output to the desired point with great accuracy.
And if before the first launch from Vostochny I still had a good attitude towards Rogozin, then after that I realized that there was nothing good to expect from him. I don’t know the details about the fight against theft there, but during the launch, he proved himself not only an illiterate, but also a boss who did not want to understand anything.
I'm not talking about his purely journalistic manners - the robot Fedor, shooting a film in space, for which Roscosmos specialists had no censorship words. By the way, where is that Fedor and that film on which considerable sums have been spent?
But in general, Rogozin is not the worst, but not the best of the leaders of Roscosmos.
And further. In space technology, 4 years is nothing, so it is very difficult to evaluate a leader by what happened under him, since this can only be the end of a very long story.

[Scientist]

By the way, tests with naphthyl began in 2017, before the arrival of Rogozin.

[zloybond]

Satellites were launched for the needs of the NWO. Now they are deorbiting, assembled under the genius of quality control. In sequence.

[isv000]

Quote: B-15

No, I do not think so.
I had a sideways experience with his activities. And I can say, unlike hat-throwers or all-weeders, he rarely made mistakes in making decisions. And these decisions were for the good of the country.
Wishing him and his teammates a speedy recovery!

Rogozin: the son of a general, a university of Marxism-Leninism, took part in the events at the White House in time, was seen for two months near the Transnistrian conflict, then, with accumulated baggage, a political and near space career, being in the NVO zone ...

[Silver99]

Why didn't you finish your vodka in the restaurant and leave the salad? There is nothing for him to do there with his "principles" !!! PR in Moscow is also possible; now it will be possible to speak to schoolchildren, tell stories and show the place of injury. He apparently does not realize that he is to blame for the deaths of people (((The Shesh-Besh Hotel was never shelled during the confrontation, apparently they took care of it until a special occasion, knowing the indifference and carelessness of officials, most likely the staff was introduced there from the SBU , waited for them there and Rogozin justified their calculation, they covered everyone at once (((((.

[Doccor18]

Quote: Alien From

There was too much of it, don't you think?

Looks like another big job is just around the corner...

[NNikolaich]

I have no complaints about Rogozin for working at Roskosmos, the number of accidents was reduced to zero, the Sarmatians and Avangards were tested and put into production.
But he talks nonsense on business and without work, either he offers a trampoline, or he butts with Mask
Now he has appeared in the Donbass, yes, he seems to be doing business, there are sights and communications, but some kind of muddy story with an abandoned and burned out car, then this shelling, during the celebration ..
It’s clear that returning to the front is a matter of principle for him, they don’t give orders for injuries while drinking, but for PR and a career, oh, how fighting should be ..

[Fedor Ivanovich]

Creature Rogozin, this is Dmitry Anatolyevich Medvedev, that's the whole secret.
They somehow simultaneously appeared in the media - one in the Donbass, the other with Xi Jinping

[kapitan92]

Quote: Alien From

There was too much of it, don't you think?

Being leader of the military advisory group and scientific and technical center "Tsar's Wolves", Dmitry Rogozin was on a working trip.

At least it's just funny. What is he doing there, after being removed from his post at Roskosmos?
Most Supreme, decided to appoint him to someone in the new regions of Russia and do you need a "legend of a hero"?
What use is he to him?
In the photo, there is also a machine gun with a silencer, just a macho raid on the outskirts of the rear.
Cheap PR of an official belched by the system!

[Lech from Android.]

Two guards died because of a damn party ... I hope Rogozin will not do such stupid things again.
The front line in the Donbass is crammed with waiters for the Ukronazis, and such a target as Rogozin is a tasty prey for them.

[Anatole Klim]

Quote: Lech from Android.

I hope Rogozin doesn't do such stupid things anymore.

If it’s a matter of principle for Rogozin to return to the Donbass, then let him return, but not just go to restaurants, or do PR on the front line, light up and take a couple of photos, let him buy at least a truck of humanitarian aid and take it to the Donbass, he probably has some money after Roskosmos, at least the fighters will benefit.

[Alien From]

Will not give money, pure PR on the blood.

[72jora72]

Will not give money, pure PR on the blood.

And you, dear, at least transfer a penny, or did you send a box of stew to the boys? And Rogozin (no matter how I treat him) brings a lot of things that are needed.

[Vasilenko Vladimir]

Quote: Lech from Android.

I hope Rogozin doesn't do such stupid things anymore.

it's not stupid, it's worse

[Mixweb]

Let him go hunting. Fuck him at the front to do. Guys are dying because of him.

[Li17]

And why is he needed there? Fighter? A PR man and a showman, he can only be used as a bait, and then .... Then he will write a book in the style of my war! State Duma deputy Vitaly Milonov is fighting in the rank of senior sergeant as a gunner, and there are probably no awards, and he doesn’t stick out! Rogozin case + Galkins + Pugachevs + Sobchaks ....

[1razvgod]

You compared directly, one thing is a gunner, the second thing is the head of the royal wolves, these are different positions, different difficulties and banquets

[Guran33 Sergey]

Participation in hostilities in Yugoslavia, Transnistria, this is apparently not him ... And in general, if you collect a digest of those who complain in different articles by Rogozin, you get 5-6 of the same ones. Are you throwing shit on a fan out of liberoidism or for a small amount of money? And yes, "lithium17" read about his life path, a lot of wonderful discoveries await you and would apologize to a worthy person.

[Vasilenko Vladimir]

Quote: Guran33 Sergey

Participation in hostilities in Yugoslavia, Transnistria, this is apparently not him ..

Quote: Guran33 Sergey

read about his life path, you will find a lot of wonderful discoveries and would apologize to a worthy person.

and you give a link to read

[Guran33 Sergey]

I can’t find it anymore. I read about him in the distant zero years when he created the centrist party with the money of the meadow and where the sponsor’s friends left him after the elections. on the collarbone

[Vasilenko Vladimir]

Quote: Guran33 Sergey

I can't find it anymore

here I am about the same

[SKVichyakow]

Quote: Guran33 Sergey

I can’t find it anymore. I read about him in the distant zero years when he created the centrist party with the money of the meadow and where the sponsor’s friends left him after the elections. on the collarbone

Everyone has their own disadvantages, the main thing is that they do not outweigh the pros.

[SKVichyakow]

Quote: Guran33 Sergey

Participation in hostilities in Yugoslavia, Transnistria, this is apparently not him ... And in general, if you collect a digest of those who complain in different articles by Rogozin, you get 5-6 of the same ones. Do you throw shit on a fan out of liberoidism or for a small amount of money? And yes, "lithium17" read about his life path, a lot of wonderful discoveries await you and apologize to a worthy person.

Neither read nor analyze, the main thing is to grin. Advised to no avail.

[Li17]

Quote: Guran33 Sergey

Are you throwing shit on a fan out of liberoidism or for a little money? And yes, "lithium17" read about his life path, a lot of wonderful discoveries await you and would apologize to a worthy person.

No, he just didn't pay me, so I started! And the regions you named, how is he there, he performed with his royal wolves? And his life path is worthy, I do not argue, from journalists from the humanities to jump like that! Well, straight Chubais two!

[Guran33 Sergey]

Alas, in the Transnistrian region, young and ambitious, he ran with a Kalash and earned this pretentious call sign and they drank Moldovan cheap wine in hotel rooms of a 5-star class below the plinth. you looked diagonally and the boy has already discovered a solid Soviet education, do me a favor, read it in full ..

[Li17]

Quote: Guran33 Sergey

You see, you looked diagonally and the boy has already discovered a solid Soviet education, do me a favor and read it in full ..

We write something illiterately and stupidly (worse than me), and most importantly why are we tearing so much ... for this "hero"? Something tells me that you are trying with such zeal for a reason, we probably want to smear your agent of influence! We are working badly, tell the curator to be more careful in choosing a boy with a good knowledge of language! And special thanks for your friend's ass!

[Amateur]

God Rogue marks

As Rogozin said in his Telegram channel, he was injured when he was holding a working meeting in a narrow circle in a hotel. ... Rogozin specified that a metal fragment measuring three by four millimeters had entered above his right shoulder blade, and he was to undergo an operation.
(https://lenta.ru/news/2022/12/22/rogozzin/)

According to the Baza Telegram channel, Rogozin also received a shrapnel wound to the soft tissues of the head, penetrating shrapnel wound of the buttocks and a penetrating shrapnel wound to the left thigh.

He even managed to get a wound in the place that ends all his undertakings.
Jonah!

[Foundling]

Requires the continuation of the banquet. Even if standing

[parusnik]

He was not wounded in a trench, and not while moving along the frontline zone. In a hotel, during a party .. He will lie down, they will have an operation and ... another reward, he will find his hero.

[hagen]

Quote: parusnik

He was not wounded in a trench, and not while moving along the frontline zone. In a hotel, during a party ..

Tell Zakharchenko, Givi, Motorola where they died, in a trench? Where do those sent to another area usually live and eat? Can you tell me where the fragments from an exploding shell should fall "honorably"? Some kind of unhealthy thirst to cheat a person about the essence of whose work you know nothing about. His injury is classified as severe, with possible onset of partial paralysis. He works for our team. How and where is the business of the top management who sent him. And you, among many, which team do you play for? For yellow and blue? So the SBU credited the damage caused to us to its own account. Are you all with them? It is absurd to beat your own for thoughtlessness, even worse - to stand in solidarity with the enemy. Why you don't understand this, I can't imagine. In a word, I am annoyed that even in difficult times today, some of our fellow citizens assert themselves by pouring mud on even those who do business. Probably, the understanding of the general danger, when everyone is valuable, has not yet come. Do you remember the words of the song of the Chilean Ortega - El pueblo unido jamás será vencido? It is very relevant today.

[parusnik]

Tell Zakharchenko, Givi, Motorola where they died, in a trench?

You compared Rogozin with these people like one plant with a finger.

[hagen]

Quote: parusnik

You compared Rogozin with these people like one plant with a finger.

Yes. What differences do you see? You did not understand what you read, unfortunately. I brought this series of personalities not to equalize them or oppose anyone else. I brought them to show that Ukraine is fighting against us with terrorist methods. And even if any significant figure working in the combat zone is caught by an enemy mine, land mine or something else on the pot, this does not detract from the merits of the victim. This is not understood only by children of primary school age, who are surprised that teachers also go to the toilet, for example. I won't talk about the party. Already tired of this. You probably would have rushed home to celebrate the DR. Although even schoolchildren are not exempted from school for the sake of this occasion ... but they do not consider it shameful to somehow congratulate them.

[runway-1]

You compared Rogozin with these people like one plant with a finger.

Are you surprised?! The local gentlemen "guardians" will compare anyone and with anything in accordance with the "plans of the party and government" ...

[antiaircrafter]

Quote: Hagen

Where do those sent to another area usually live and eat?

Who sent him there? And on what basis does a civilian carry sidearms?

[hagen]

Quote: antiaircrafter

Who sent him there? And on what basis does a civilian carry sidearms?

I think he had the authority if the military counterintelligence of the front line did not present any claims to him. He legally lived and worked there. And the fact that Putin did not send you an official message on this topic, then maybe you have not reached the level that should be notified in such cases?

[antiaircrafter]

Quote: Hagen

the military counterintelligence of the front line did not present any claims to him

There is nothing more for counterintelligence to do than to drive raspaltsovannyh peppers. There are more important things.

[hagen]

Quote: antiaircrafter

There is nothing more for counterintelligence to do than to drive raspaltsovannyh peppers. There are more important things.

It is immediately clear that you are as far from the army as from the moon. Counterintelligence earns its bread, shoulder straps and orders precisely on such incomprehensible personalities, with weapons in their hands in the rear of our troops, if they took these weapons in their hands illegally. And for the "split" with illegal weapons, and even hanging out in parts and subdivisions, double rations ... When you are going to comment on something, then at least stick into the topic a little. Terrible stupidity...

[antiaircrafter]

Quote: Hagen

hanging out in parts and divisions

If such a person had babbled into my unit without a good reason and the relevant documents, he would have received a butt in a jug and lost his pocket money.

Quote: Hagen

It is immediately clear that you are as far from the army as from the moon.

A long time away.

Quote: Hagen

Counterintelligence earns its bread, shoulder straps and orders precisely on such incomprehensible personalities

Well, yes, touch such a publicized shit - you won’t wash off until the end of the service and you will lose well-deserved orders, maybe even along with shoulder straps. That's why it scurries anywhere.

[hagen]

Quote: antiaircrafter

If such a person had babbled into my unit without a good reason and the relevant documents, he would have received a butt in a jug and lost his pocket money.

Well, yes. Fresh giving, but hard to believe. We are all sharp here, in words ...

[Gardamir]

El pueblo unido jamás será vencido

With whom do you propose to be united? In 1993 he was on Yeltsin's side. Being the builder of the spaceport, he did a good job. Why dragged folk heroes and compare them with Putin's official? You don't need to make this a hero.

[Guran33 Sergey]

Actually, at that time, most of the people were with Yeltsin (professional PR people from the states choked on bread with caviar for a reason!) But why are you silent that he further gained experience in Yugoslavia on the side of Serbia, and then fixed him in Transnistria? What has a higher education and scientific work, was a teacher at the Academy of the General Staff in the artillery direction?

[Gardamir]

experience in Yugoslavia on the side of Serbia

two months. By the way, now he is also a "hero" of Donbass.

[Monster_Fat]

By the way, why "Royal Wolves" and not "Royal Dogs or Dogs?" following the example of how the Jesuits called themselves "Dogs of the Lord"? "Wolves" are free animals and cannot be "whose", but "dogs or Dogs" - they are someone's a priori, and there is nothing obscene here, out, the inquisitors were even proud that they are "Dogs". And by the way, guardsmen wearing severed dog heads called themselves "Tsar's Dogs". And here - "Royal Wolves" - some kind of oxymoron.

[hagen]

Quote: Gardamir

With whom do you propose to be united? In 1993 he was on Yeltsin's side

In 1993, half the country was for Yeltsin. Are you suggesting a civil war? Announce it out loud, you will definitely receive "a barrel of jam and a basket of cookies" from the Can.

Quote: Gardamir

Being the builder of the spaceport, he did a good job.

Accounts, sums in the studio. No? then sniff in two holes and be glad that Rogozin does not read you. In general, such a public post can become a crime. You would have at least a little bit of legal literacy would have been carried away. Otherwise, you will get into trouble in the heat of self-affirmation at the expense of some touchy opponent

[Li17]

Quote: Hagen

He works for our team. How and where is the business of the top management who sent him. And you, among many, which team do you play for?

And why are you blowing us with a fan? Tell us what kind of team he has, and what she did, except for criminal cases! We are stupid that we see and read, and you are us!

Quote: Hagen

some fellow citizens assert themselves by throwing mud at even those who do business. Probably the understanding of the universal danger has not yet come, when everyone is valuable

And what is he doing? I dare to suggest that there was a secret operation in which Rogozin, using himself as a target, practiced the issue of countering enemy artillery! As usual and as usual in his team, something did not grow together, although the group seemed to have such a fatal name!

Quote: Hagen

How and where is the business of the top management who sent him

This is familiar to me, in view of the fact that he knows a lot and can expose a lot of things and whom, some are sent to a well-known address ... so to speak, for promotion!
By the way, my dear, are you by any chance from the royal wolves? do not be shy, you obviously have a gray tail!

[hagen]

Quote: lithium17

We are stupid, what we see and read

If the awareness of your own limitations has come, then you have the cards in your hands. Read our front correspondents. They have everything written, who is where and for which team. I won't comment on the rest. You pulled the mantle of a seer on yourself - from your kitchen you see who and where you sent, what goes wrong with someone ... There is no point in explaining something.

[lisikat2]

Litiy, are you not satisfied with Ragozin himself or the name of the group?

[Li17]

Quote from lisikat2

Litiy, are you not satisfied with Ragozin himself or the name of the group?

Personally, I am not satisfied with such unrecorded heroes who support the people in taverns and Mercy! And personally Rogozin is nobody for me, it’s disgusting that he has the role of an elegant wedding general with a backup dancer!

[lisikat2]

Recently, the site gave positive feedback about the activities of his group.
a "wedding general with a twist" would prefer where they don't shoot.
He is not such an idiot not to understand: a shell can kill

[Guran33 Sergey]

Well, just from zip and co! Sofas can't be built like that by a fool.!

[yuriy55]

Dmitry Rogozin, after being wounded, said that it was a matter of principle for him to return to Donbass

I guess he walks around the ward, singing:

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[parusnik]

With different text:
And who am I? And I have a guy -
A simple Russian man.
A simple Russian man
Living like everyone else in the twentieth century.

What do I eat? And I eat sturgeon -
Simple Russian food.
Simple Russian food -
I catch it in my pond.

What do I smoke? I smoke cigarettes
Simple cigarettes "Kent".
Plain cigarettes "Kent",
After all, I have a patent on them.

What do I drink? And I drink cognac -
Simple cognac "Napoleon".
Simple cognac "Napoleon".
They sent it to me in a wagon.

Who am I friends with? I'm friends with Uncle Sasha -
His last name is B.
His last name is B.
He himself is the director of the FSB.

I'm still friends, I'm friends with Uncle Vova -
He is my god and king.
He is both a god and a king to me,
as general secretary.

[Moneron]

the comrade fell out of the guiding clip .... and now he is trying with all his might to return back .... to the heat. with a person from the outside, not from the Leningrad team, Putin easily parted. And a self-made hastily assembled group .... whom? who authorized them.? who is Rogozin by profession? journalist? Let's get back into the profession. the time of loud-mouthed amateurs has passed ..... yes, they will no longer be allowed to the body of the supreme

[stels_07]

As whom does he want to return and is there any benefit?

[1razvgod]

Let the sportsmaster go, trampolines will pedal and massage mats for the buttocks, his theme

[Foundling]

As a restaurant critic

[Guran33 Sergey]

Doctor of Technical Sciences, majoring in weapons theory, military-technical policy, weapons systems .. So it’s not a man from the street, but a specialist, but a group of experimental operation in real combat conditions of some kind of art-purpose devices

[Scientist]

From Wikipedia:
Graduate of the International Department of the Faculty of Journalism of Moscow State University. In 1988 he graduated with honors from the Faculty of Economics of the University of Marxism-Leninism under the Moscow City Committee of the CPSU. In 1996, at the Faculty of Philosophy of Moscow State University, he defended his dissertation for the degree of Candidate of Philosophical Sciences on the topic "The Russian Question and Its Influence on National and International Security". In 1999, he defended his dissertation there for the degree of Doctor of Philosophy on the topic "Problems of Russia's National Security at the Turn of the 2016st Century." In XNUMX, he defended his dissertation at the N. G. Kuznetsov Naval Academy for the degree of Doctor of Technical Sciences in the specialty “Armament Theory, Military-Technical Policy, Weapons System”.

Doesn't it seem strange to you to have a doctorate (!) on such a subject for a person who has neither a technical nor a military education? And how can it help when testing specific equipment in general and in combat conditions in particular?

[miry_mir]

instead of fighting, he eats and drinks vodka and boasts to the whole world what a cool call sign he has. I wouldn't be surprised if they give him a hero too.

[Thrifty]

It was we who started mass PR, then Vedmedev will speak out, most often out of place and out of time, now a journalist of Russia ruling space went to the Donbass to sip vodka in the conditions of hostilities, and received a surprise ... Who is next and what kind of stupidity will soak?

[Vasilenko Vladimir]

decided to finish the banquet in a pub?!!!

[Third district]

Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir

decided to finish the banquet in a pub?!!!

Like in that movie.
- I demand the continuation of the banquet!

[Normal]

Hmm, life doesn't seem to teach anything. What can you take from a fool ... well, except for tests.

[lisikat2]

Author, why so many words?
Already after the words: "the shelling was carried out after the receipt of the APU of razeddata" all doubts disappeared.
Among the local staff, full of enemy agents.
I am 100% sure that Rogozin and his experts did not call the SBU
- on Wednesday after 14:00 we will be at the hotel

[parusnik]

I am 100% sure that Rogozin and his experts did not call the SBU
- on Wednesday after 14:00 we will be at the hotel

How to know how to know
- on Wednesday after 14:00 we will be at the hotel and added:
- You are more careful there, a hero, you don’t want to be posthumously.

[digger]

How fucked up with this Rogozin ..... they found a hero .... who, spitting on all precautions, was drinking in a restaurant in a city with important bumps, spitting on everything .... maybe even fucked someone there ..... and this practically at the front.

[solar]

I could organize my parties in a safer place. Or is the vodka not that tasty?

[lisikat2]

A safer place" means in Moscow?

[Million]

What principle? Did you intend to go into battle?

[antiaircrafter]

Quote: Million

Are you planning to go into battle?

No, he didn't eat salads.

[TsShVS]

After the fight (although what kind of fight is there) I decided to wave my fists ...

[iouris]

"The triangle will be drunk, if it were a parallelepiped..."

[Scientist]

What is he there for? What useful things did he do being in the Donbas that he could not do in Moscow?

[Two diplomas]

Take Strelkov with you, at least he has brains and strategic thinking, otherwise you will again celebrate something with fixed coordinates.

[Zaurbek]

Well, there are still hotels with restaurants there, but until the next DR it will get better. Maybe he will order a GPS jammer

[isv000]

As soon as he returns, close him in the bunker, let him manage his kennel from there, otherwise the hour is not even, someone else will lose his life through him ...

[tun5t]

yes, karma itself gave Rogozin - in ... a shot sparrow at a banquet, gives everyone what they deserve.

[KrolikZanuda]

The only person who has a spine in his ass