Plans "Unthinkable" and "Pincher": about how Great Britain and the USA were going to fight with the USSR

Despite the fact that for some time during the Second World War, the USSR and the Western allies united in the fight against Nazi Germany, after the capitulation of the Third Reich, everything returned to normal.

Communism for Britain and the United States, in their opinion, was a "mortal threat." Moreover, the occupation of East Germany by the Soviet Union was perceived as preparing a springboard for a further offensive to the West.

In this regard, the British Prime Minister Winston Churchill already at the end of May 1945 handed over a plan to a limited circle of people from the high military command, in historical known as "The Unthinkable" in references.

It consisted of 4 main points. First, Britain and the United States were to receive the comprehensive support of their people in the fight against the USSR. Secondly, the Polish army and the German industrial potential, which came under the control of the Allies, must be fully involved in the upcoming war.

Thirdly, other Western countries should not participate in the operation, since, according to Churchill, their leaders cannot be trusted.

Finally, fourthly, the attack on Soviet troops stationed in Europe was to begin on July 1, 1945, if the USSR entered into an alliance with Japan.

In fact, this plan fully justifies its name. The thing is that the alliance of the Soviet Union with militaristic Japan was ruled out. Moreover, according to historical documents, at the time of the creation by Churchill of this, if it can be called that, strategy, the Red Army was three times superior to the troops of Great Britain and the United States (located on the European continent).

It is worth adding that the Americans had their own plan to fight the Soviet Union. The latter meant the use of nuclear bombs (which at that time no one except the United States had) against industrial and strategically important objects of the USSR. In the summer of 1946, an interim plan appeared, codenamed "Pincher".

Despite the fact that this concept was not approved, it formed the basis of the American military strategy of those years, aimed against the Soviet Union.

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[rocket757]

Plans "Unthinkable" and "Pincher": about how Great Britain and the USA were going to fight with the USSR

. Plans, plans... some are carried out in one way or another, others have not taken place and have been forgotten for a long time!
Now they have scribbled new plans and are trying to implement them ... everything is as always.
Break off, for the most part, AS ALWAYS!

[hohol95]

Everyone is making plans.
And strategists with tactics, and ordinary citizens.
I wonder what could have prompted the USSR in 1945 to "alliance" with the "Mikado Empire"?
What was Mr. Churchill "imagining"?
Strong alcohol and cigars contributed to the "fantasy" of the British Prime Minister ...

[Blackmokona]

Quote: hohol95

I wonder what could have prompted the USSR in 1945 to "alliance" with the "Mikado Empire"?

The desire to arrange a world revolution as an example.

[hohol95]

The Japanese in the role of "blowers of the world revolutionary fire"?
They signed the Anti-Comintern Pact.
Any other ideas?

[Blackmokona]

Quote: hohol95

The Japanese in the role of "blowers of the world revolutionary fire"?
They signed the Anti-Comintern Pact.
Any other ideas?

The Japanese as a distraction. So in Europe there are three times more forces than the Allies, we are rolling like a skating rink, and further throughout Eurasia. And the United States still did not have enough nuclei to be erased into nuclear ashes, and there were no ICBMs either.

[hohol95]

The "bloodthirsty" Stalin simply lived with a similar idea - a "skating rink" to the English Channel!
Only Stalin knew the situation in the country and the Red Army and did not try to "bite off a piece wider than his mouth"!

[Blackmokona]

Quote: hohol95

The "bloodthirsty" Stalin simply lived with a similar idea - a "skating rink" to the English Channel!
Only Stalin knew the situation in the country and the Red Army and did not try to "bite off a piece wider than his mouth"!

So the bloodthirsty Churchell did not put the Unthinkable plan into action. Both sides realized that they could not win and the Cold War began.

[solar]

In fact, there were, for example, claims by the USSR to Tripolitania and a military base in the Bosporus.

[zenion]

Bulgaria was already in alliance with the USSR and joining the Bosphorus was a joke, but still this was not the case. After all, the USSR considered the West an ally of the USSR. In addition, the people of the West would not have understood the plan of the USSR, and the Westerners knew this. The revolution of the West could begin, albeit in a small region, but it could also be kaput to capitalism. It is possible that the rebels themselves could not have defeated the army of imperialism, but at the request of the people, the USSR could intervene. It may seem like fantasy, but fantasy could play a role.

[Grandfather]

Quote: hohol95

Strong alcohol and cigars contributed to the "fantasy" of the British Prime Minister ...

it was a worthy adversary. not sleepy joe.

[hohol95]

He was a worthy opponent, but very bloodthirsty in relation to the citizens of the USSR since the intervention ...
Then he gave the order to use BOV, and in 1945 he would have easily used atomic bombs. Find yourself with the British army !!!
"Sleepy Joe" is played by the retinue, and Winston "turned" not only his own "retinue"!

[solar]

Theoretically it could be. For example, the Japanese would propose to divide China, giving the USSR a large part, and go together to India. A good contribution to the formation of a socialist system after the war. By the way, the Japanese had illusions about relations with the USSR - there was a non-aggression pact between the countries, the existence of an agreement with the States on entering the war with Japan was kept secret, so the Japanese even tried to get through the question - is the USSR ready to become an intermediary between Japan and the States?
But in practice it was so unrealistic that the authors themselves wrote - "Unthinkable".

[hohol95]

Wrote "The Unthinkable"...
However, they wrote...
And not one word!
And the whole plan!
And in 1945, the Japanese could theoretically offer "something" to the USSR!
But practically it would be "smoke from yesterday's cigarettes"!
In the USSR, everyone knew for a long time and developed their plans for joining Manchuria and returning part of Sakhalin and the Kuril ridge back to the Union.

[solar]

All this we know now. It wasn't so obvious back then.

[zenion]

solar (Sergey). The country of the USSR had enough of its territory. In addition to the fact that the army was strong, but the country was heavily bled and could not fight against the imperialist forces that wanted it. The most important thing is to stop on time. The USSR was still needed by the allies, after the defeat of Germany, in order to bring the war with Japan to an end. The imperialists did not count on their own strength, in addition, they were afraid that the USSR and Japan were at peace and could create a military alliance. Therefore, they lured the USSR to a joint attack on Japan. Everything went according to the agreement. But when the Americans wanted to seize Korea, then everything went awry for them. Armament for the Korean army against the United States was enough to give the Americans tinsel. My brother fought in China, then in Korea, and ended the war in 1952 when the Americans drank their own blood.

[Bolt cutter]

get the comprehensive support of his people in the fight against the USSR.

In 45 this was impossible and could have ended in a revolution.

[solar]

There is a lot of noise around this plan, it is not clear why.
The author honestly indicated in what case it was created

in the case of the entry of the USSR into an alliance with Japan

That is, after the war with Germany, the USSR will suddenly enter into an alliance with Japan.
The situation is frankly unrealistic, even if the Japanese promised something in return. The authors of the plan also treated it as unrealistic, as can be seen from the title. This is also noted by the author.

In fact, this plan fully justifies its name. The thing is that the alliance of the Soviet Union with militaristic Japan was ruled out.

Okay, before the general public did not know what the plan was for, it looked like a plan to attack the USSR.
But now it is well known. And now what to discuss? The fact that even the British themselves were not going to implement the plan, since it is obvious that the conditions for application prescribed in it were frankly unrealistic?

[Motorist]

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Okay, before the general public did not know what the plan was for, it looked like a plan to attack the USSR.

An alliance with Japan is just point "e" of the plan. The very subject of the plan: "Russia. Threat to western civilization" (Russia is a threat to Western civilization), for a second.