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President of the Russian Federation: The calculation of the West on the destruction of the Russian economy did not materialize

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President of the Russian Federation: The calculation of the West on the destruction of the Russian economy did not materialize

The sanctions with which the collective West has literally "fallen" on our country, apparently, so far have not lived up to the expectations of their initiators.


Thus, Russian President Vladimir Putin said that the calculation of our geopolitical opponents for the destruction of the Russian economy did not materialize, writes TASS.

According to the Russian leader, despite the economic war declared by the West, according to preliminary estimates, Russia's GDP will decrease by about 2,5% this year. Although the United States and its partners "prophesied" a drop by almost a quarter.

In addition, the president stressed that in the third quarter of this year, the poverty rate in our country decreased by 10,5%, and the minimum wage has increased by as much as 2022% since the beginning of 27,8.

At the same time, Vladimir Putin noted that the countless restrictions imposed by the United States and its partners against Russia, on the contrary, hit their economies. Thus, according to the Russian leader, the average inflation rate in the EU has already reached 10%, despite the fact that in some individual countries it has even exceeded the "inconceivable" 20%.

In turn, as the president stated, the prices for goods and food in Russia, since May, have not changed. At the same time, speaking about our monetary unit, Vladimir Putin noted that the ruble has now become one of the most stable currencies in the world.
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  1. Mihail0221
    Mihail0221 15 December 2022 17: 46
    +7
    The sanctions with which the collective West literally “fell down” on our country, apparently, so far have not met the expectations of their initiators

    Yes, that's for sure. Prices are about the same. Yes, they grew without war. request shreds of the economy are not visible from our ... recourse I went to work the same way I go, there is work, orders ...
    1. Orange Bigg
      Orange Bigg 15 December 2022 17: 47
      +7
      President of the Russian Federation: The calculation of the West on the destruction of the Russian economy did not materialize


      Maybe it’s even for the better. Accelerated import substitution. You look and forget about the main postulate of the liberals about the hand of the market, which supposedly will ruin everything on its own. Yes, and people who don’t like something here will leave themselves. their banks. To develop their financial system. The crisis is not only a danger, but also an opportunity to rebuild the system. Since we lived before, it will no longer work. Develop your own engine building, automotive, aircraft building, and not rely on gas and oil.
      1. nobody75
        nobody75 15 December 2022 17: 56
        0
        And what about the liberals? I thought it was Adam Smith's The Wealth of Nations. The dispute between mercantilists and physiocrats has long been of no interest to anyone. Or are you talking about monetarists and Keynesians? So since 2008, we are all a little Keynesian...
        Sincerely
      2. fa2998
        fa2998 15 December 2022 18: 22
        +8
        Quote from Orange Bigg
        Yes, and people who do not like something here will leave themselves.

        I think they just don't have enough money for a ticket!
        13890 rubles - new minimum wage And they brag about it! The level of the poorest countries in Africa.
        For many, especially those who live in small towns, the minimum wage means a lot. The salaries of state employees “dance” from it - kindergartens, hospitals, utilities, etc. Then you have to leave in millions. hi
      3. 1razvgod
        1razvgod 15 December 2022 18: 27
        +6
        Who interfered before? Or not with red-haired Chubais, everything went down, but they were not even touched with a finger. Those who did not touch them remained in their places, that they are red-haired, that they are white-haired, that they are dark-haired, they do not know how to work, they know how to saw the people's money, they would have to saw the forest in Kolyma, and there is no one to plant them because they have a common feeder. They will not replace or develop anything, they are waiting for the sanctions to be lifted and again to drive gas and oil for sale, they do not know how to develop this work and do not want to ...
    2. private person
      private person 15 December 2022 18: 05
      +12
      the poverty rate in our country has decreased by 10,5%, and the minimum wage has increased by as much as 2022% since the beginning of 27,8.

      And about the prices are silent, how many times they have grown.
      1. Diana Ilyina
        Diana Ilyina 15 December 2022 18: 18
        -6
        In what time? No, I do not argue, they certainly have grown, but not at times, but are growing as usual from year to year according to inflation. At least in the conditions of all kinds of sanctions, I do not feel anything catastrophic. Or do you have other information?
        1. nobody75
          nobody75 15 December 2022 18: 21
          +7
          and grow as usual from year to year according to inflation. At least in the conditions of all kinds of sanctions, I do not feel anything catastrophic. Or do you have other data?

          I have other details...
          Sincerely
          1. Diana Ilyina
            Diana Ilyina 15 December 2022 18: 26
            -5
            Which specifically?
            I can give data from 1C on changes in prices for household appliances. Before SVO, the jump is wild after it began and now. It’s true that I don’t have it at hand, I left work, but I assure you that the prices for household goods are about the same as they were before the SVO.
            1. nobody75
              nobody75 15 December 2022 18: 35
              +5
              I do not believe! I myself have a little knowledge of 1s and data analysis. Changes were smoothed out due to discounts on household appliances of brands that left Russia. Do you just want to unload prices from Utka? No processing?
              Sincerely
              1. Diana Ilyina
                Diana Ilyina 15 December 2022 18: 46
                -1
                What brands have left Russia for household goods? Now I can’t, but tomorrow I’ll come in as a specialist and take a picture of price changes for any position. And, by the way, Hanza (Poland), Burning (Slovenia) and some more from Russia are not particularly running. At least their technique is presented. As for Bosch, Samsung, LG and other crap, they are either made in Russia or China.
                1. nobody75
                  nobody75 15 December 2022 18: 58
                  +2
                  Are there discounts for Bosch? For the remnants of household goods that you will no longer sell?
                  Have you forgotten about electkolux?
                  Sincerely
            2. Zoldat_A
              Zoldat_A 15 December 2022 18: 41
              0
              Quote: Diana Ilyina
              I can give data from 1C on changes in prices for household appliances. Before SVO, the jump is wild after it began and now. It’s true that I don’t have it at hand, I left work, but I assure you that the prices for household goods are about the same as they were before the SVO.

              Before the CBO, the jump was before March 8, now before the New Year. And they spit on the prices of household appliances on our SVO ...
              For example, I also fulfilled my old dream (all my hands did not reach) - I bought my own family for the New Year a planetary mixer for the kitchen and a thicknessing machine for the workshop. Relatively large purchases on the eve of the holidays. Also, unfortunately, they probably contributed their "penny" to the pre-holiday price jump.
              1. nobody75
                nobody75 15 December 2022 18: 44
                0
                Not true! Find American planetary mixer for sale...
                Sincerely
                1. Zoldat_A
                  Zoldat_A 15 December 2022 19: 07
                  +1
                  Quote: nobody75
                  Not true! Find American planetary mixer for sale...
                  Sincerely

                  Why do I need an American? I bought a good, high-quality, tested several times on other Chinese devices.
                  Talk about "ten-dollar disposable Chinese" has become at least ten years old.
                  1. nobody75
                    nobody75 15 December 2022 19: 12
                    0
                    The offer has decreased - the prices have risen. The American planetary mixer, by the way, is the best...
                    Sincerely
                    1. Zoldat_A
                      Zoldat_A 15 December 2022 23: 08
                      0
                      Quote: nobody75
                      The American planetary mixer, by the way, is the best...

                      For me, the best machine is the one that works, does its job well, and at the same time, if possible, does not break.
                      All my life I have been accustomed not to save on a good instrument, but I have never overpaid for a big name, other things being equal.

                      So if an American is better only because it is American, then let the Americans knead the dough for them.

                      Moreover, they themselves do not need planetary mixers in FIG - the Chinese knead the dough for them in "Italian" pizzerias. And for the Americans themselves, the only thing that is necessary and sufficient in the kitchen is a microwave to heat up frozen pizza.
                      Are American microwaves the best too?
                      Well, then I have not the best for 15 years, I have been defrosting meat and melting butter for baking. It also sterilizes jars for preservation. And let American microwave ovens be the best - but mine has been plowing for 15 years and is not going to break yet.
              2. Diana Ilyina
                Diana Ilyina 15 December 2022 18: 50
                +5
                Our prices depend not so much on the market, but on the greed of our buy and sell!
                1. Zoldat_A
                  Zoldat_A 15 December 2022 19: 10
                  +6
                  Quote: Diana Ilyina
                  Our prices depend not so much on the market, but on the greed of our buy and sell!

                  There was such a very good economist K. Marx. He would have burned his "Capital" in the stove, like N.V. Gogol the second volume of "Dead Souls", if he had met our hucksters.
                  I'm not talking about those who, in principle, are engaged in trade, but about "hucksters".
            3. nobody75
              nobody75 15 December 2022 18: 49
              +5
              In 1s, you can use built-in tools to conduct caster analysis using the "Data Analysis" object. Try to cluster household appliances by price increase. Lots of interesting things to see...
              Sincerely
        2. private person
          private person 15 December 2022 18: 34
          +5
          In what time?

          Well, consider this using the example of motor oil, let's take our Russian Lukol. Before certain events, it cost 1800-1900 rubles. now it costs 3800-4000 rubles. Spare parts for cars and the cars themselves are a separate issue altogether. Since December 1, gas has increased by 9%, but for heating it needs more than one cubic meter. The difference in prices for literally all goods has become palpable. One pleases the price of gasoline is in one place.
          1. Diana Ilyina
            Diana Ilyina 15 December 2022 18: 40
            -5
            Okay, let's do it, didn't the gas tremble from year to year? You can see the percentages, but I can’t do it from the tablet. And Lukoilovskoye oil is not yet an indicator. Here is the bread indicator. But what a misfortune, before the SVO we had 28 rubles, and now it’s already 30 ... But last year, on New Year’s Eve, it also went up from 22 to 24 rubles. Byada... recourse
            1. private person
              private person 15 December 2022 18: 48
              +2
              before the SVO, it cost us 28 rubles, and now it’s already 30.

              Well, an increase of 2 rubles, despite the fact that our guarantor announced a record grain harvest. We will also deliver grain to Africa for free. Well, since you touched on the topic of food, is it not noticeable how the same sausages and meat have risen in price?
            2. Zoldat_A
              Zoldat_A 15 December 2022 18: 52
              0
              Quote: Diana Ilyina
              But what a misfortune, before the SVO we had 28 rubles, and now it’s already 30 ... But last year, on New Year’s Eve, it also went up from 22 to 24 rubles. Byada...

              And don't say Diana...
              I have been taking butter from the same aunt on the market for almost four years now. The price went up again a week ago. Second time in four years. A year and a half ago, a kilogram went up by 15 rubles, and now by as much as 20 ...
              How to continue to live? The family is on the verge of starvation. I think - which of the three Toyotas to sell so that there is enough for butter ...crying
              1. single-n
                single-n 16 December 2022 08: 58
                -1
                Uncle, I would believe you. Yes, that's the trouble. My wife is an oil trader. The price tag for the year has ALREADY been changed 3 times :)) You would have checked the bar for weight :)) But how will it turn out with milk. It seems that the price per bottle is not growing, but the bottle itself is "losing weight". Maybe your grandmother "tramples" not 50 grams per kilo, but 150? I do not ask about quality, it is not so easy to evaluate it.
            3. single-n
              single-n 16 December 2022 09: 01
              -1
              Bread prices are tightly controlled. The same retailers make the minimum margin. You better compare prices for confectionery. The components are the same. Or fast food. How much did a burger / pie / cookie cost there a year or two ago?
          2. Alf
            Alf 15 December 2022 19: 03
            +5
            Quote: private person
            One pleases the price of gasoline is in one place.

            But crawling up to the solarium ...
        3. ARIONkrsk
          ARIONkrsk 15 December 2022 18: 52
          +8
          Quote: Diana Ilyina
          In what time? No, I do not argue, they certainly have grown, but not at times, but are growing as usual from year to year according to inflation. At least in the conditions of all kinds of sanctions, I do not feel anything catastrophic. Or do you have other information?

          With a good salary, the price increase is hardly noticeable and unpleasant, but with a small salary at the minimum wage or for retirement, the price increase is seen in a completely different way and it is tangible, not only about products, medicines have risen in price, cars, household appliances and everything else too.
    3. Zoldat_A
      Zoldat_A 15 December 2022 18: 28
      -2
      Quote: Michael0221
      shreds from the economy are not visible from ours ... I went to work the same way I go, there is work, orders ...

      I'm still trying to find these "shreds" - nothing at all ...
      The worst were the last and the year before last, covid, years. But the "minus" never came out.
      I don't know if I'm the only one or not, but, as in Soviet times, I pay the "13th salary" to all employees. Officially called "award at the end of the year." So he didn't stop paying.
      Yes, construction has been a bit slow all the time. But who is looking for work and earnings, he will always find. They froze large objects for a while due to the virus - they built fences in dachas, and yards in housing offices were asphalted, and my jewelers-plasterers in "Khrushchev" did repairs. They didn't skimp on anything. And they survived.

      Obama is no longer president. I would come, I would show where the "shreds" of our economy are. I’m even ready to accept him in Russia at my own expense - I would just show ...
      1. nobody75
        nobody75 15 December 2022 18: 46
        0
        The worst were the last and the year before last, covid, years.

        My model says that the worst will be 24-25 years...
        Sincerely
  2. tralflot1832
    tralflot1832 15 December 2022 17: 49
    +7
    And the President is right. Today, he was looking for information on iLNG tankers, he found a bomb. In November, the arbitration court ordered JSC MMRP to transfer 100% of the shares to the government. Some sturgeon was cut from the oligarchs.
    1. Mihail0221
      Mihail0221 15 December 2022 18: 18
      +3
      Someone from the oligarchs cut the sturgeon.

      I think they also forced me to fork out at the CBO. Here is our (from the enterprise) mobilized one-time gift of 150 thousand for the New Year promised. Yes, and during the mobilization they issued uniforms for 30 thousand. And I'm sure behind the scenes even the authorities forced to fork out additionally.
  3. Vrotkompot
    Vrotkompot 15 December 2022 17: 56
    -4
    Just like ours, solve the Ukrainian issue in 30 days ...
    1. Diana Ilyina
      Diana Ilyina 15 December 2022 18: 21
      -6
      But what, did Putin or Shoigu say somewhere in 30 days? Not? Then what is your tsipsoshny sketch?
      1. ARIONkrsk
        ARIONkrsk 15 December 2022 18: 55
        +1
        Quote: Diana Ilyina
        But what, did Putin or Shoigu say somewhere in 30 days? Not? Then what is your tsipsoshny sketch?

        His job is to throw it on the fan. And in the case of Putin and Shoigu, they don’t name specific goals at all, this causes a little misunderstanding among the people and soldiers.
      2. Vrotkompot
        Vrotkompot 16 December 2022 16: 59
        -2
        Do you have all the cissists who do not share your urapatriotic opinion? Rewind the chronology and look at what day we stood at Kyiv and planned to accept the surrender. 30 days I still strongly exaggerated it. If there had been a different plan, then the infrastructure would have begun to be taken out on the second day after the air defense, and not after half a year, when it became clear that the original plan did not work.

        Sometimes, in order to change for the better, you need to accept your mistakes and weaknesses. Excessive self-confidence leads to disastrous consequences.
  4. Nikolay310
    Nikolay310 15 December 2022 18: 02
    +11
    as if there were no May decrees, no strategy for 2020 ... as they say, chatting is not tossing bags ... OWN is going on, but he seems to have 2012 in the yard and the same empty words
  5. fa2998
    fa2998 15 December 2022 18: 04
    +6
    "The minimum wage has grown by as much as 28,9% since the beginning" - it's like they raised the unfortunate 1039 rubles, which corresponds to pr. 7%
    Well, well, we "walked" around the "foreign countries" - there inflation is 10%, or even 20%. They completely forgot about their inflation! laughing hi
    1. Diana Ilyina
      Diana Ilyina 15 December 2022 18: 32
      -8
      Inflation at the level of previous years, isn't it? But in the West, such inflation has not been seen for a VERY long time!
      1. nobody75
        nobody75 15 December 2022 18: 52
        +1
        Gazprom - the spice must flow!
        Sincerely
      2. 2 Level Advisor
        2 Level Advisor 15 December 2022 19: 06
        +4
        here some individuals are trying to convince everyone that especially - nothing has risen in price in a year? isn't it funny? everyone goes to the store, it’s not about lunar stations to talk about .. but any sanctions - they start giving results in no less than a year, then we’ll see, from spring and so on .. the economy has inertia, have you heard?
      3. fa2998
        fa2998 15 December 2022 19: 08
        +5
        Quote: Diana Ilyina
        Inflation at the level of previous years, isn't it?

        You (like the president) have not been in the store for a long time. And the communal apartment has already increased for the second time in a year. request request hi hi
      4. Vrotkompot
        Vrotkompot 16 December 2022 17: 02
        -1
        Thinner you need to engage in oligarch-propaganda, thinner)) you give yourself away with giblets
  6. single-n
    single-n 15 December 2022 18: 07
    +7
    Too early to draw conclusions. This is just the beginning. And in many areas - "We have not started anything seriously yet" (c).
    Only in a year or two will we feel all the consequences of the embargo and the reformatting of the economy.
    1. aleksandroff
      aleksandroff 15 December 2022 18: 24
      +7
      we have SVO. 11000 sanctions were imposed on us. Yes, and before sticks were inserted into the wheels. Everything is peaceful with them, but for some reason they have a crisis. This must be understood, we are under siege
  7. Maks1995
    Maks1995 15 December 2022 18: 08
    +5
    Peremoga ...
    there would be a calculation - they would not buy gas, oil, metal and other colonial goods from us ....
    And then there are restrictions .... oil is 3 times more expensive than it was sold under Yeltsin without any restrictions ...

    And poverty again allegedly fell, everything is declining and declining, yes, record and record .. you can’t go to the store directly, don’t look at prices ...
    1. single-n
      single-n 16 December 2022 08: 27
      +1
      Considering that the dollar has fallen in price by 30 times in 2 years, this is a so-so achievement.
      1. Maks1995
        Maks1995 16 December 2022 09: 59
        +1
        3 / 2 = 1,5.
        those. for Putin's "enemy" they keep a "minimum price" for oil one and a half times more than for Yeltsin's "friend".
        And Gazprom again reported record profits according to media...
        1. single-n
          single-n 16 December 2022 10: 57
          -1
          in the 90s, the United States exported 100-120 thousand barrels per day. And since 2014, the volume has increased 3 times, in 2018 it is already 2.000 thousand, a 20-fold increase. imports, on the contrary, fell from 8.7 thousand in 1997 and 10 thousand in 2010 to 7,8 in 2018.
          The guys just began not to buy, but to sell. Accordingly, they benefit from higher prices. :))
          1. Maks1995
            Maks1995 16 December 2022 13: 19
            0
            Somewhere like that. Beneficial for all miners. The low price is beneficial to the producers.
            What Arabs play well ....
  8. Luka Nord
    Luka Nord 15 December 2022 18: 15
    +3
    The calculation of the West on the destruction of the Russian economy did not materialize

    So they have been preparing since 2000 .. And since 2014, specifically.
    Life, of course, is not sugar, but compared to the 90s, it is quite stable and we don’t die of hunger (all our own) Food security is at its best, and the industry is working. etc. to arm the ukrina) Here is the witch
    1. aleksandroff
      aleksandroff 15 December 2022 18: 26
      -1
      since the XNUMXs, we have been restoring what was destroyed by the drunk with the help of "partners"
      1. Luka Nord
        Luka Nord 15 December 2022 18: 41
        -2
        Quote: aleksandroff
        since the XNUMXs, we have been restoring what was destroyed by the drunk with the help of "partners"

        What kind of "partners" are these? The GDP dispersed the seven-bankers, this is the main thing. And from that time on, he became enemy No. 1 of all liberalism ..
        And Russia breathed, dropping these bloodsuckers and began to recover ..
        The West does not need Russia, that's for sure!
      2. minus
        minus 15 December 2022 19: 42
        +6
        However, most of the industrial enterprises of the Krasnoyarsk Territory survived into the 90s. And they were destroyed after 2002 .... The remains of the year before the 16th actively went bankrupt. So there is no need to tell here that under Yeltsin !!!!
        1. single-n
          single-n 16 December 2022 08: 51
          +2
          We also have in Lipetsk. Literally a year before the SVO, a workshop for the production of drinking tractors was bankrupted. The last workshop of a huge tractor factory. Today, a tractor plant no less than the well-known Azovstal would probably be very useful to us. The starting engine plant would probably help too, it's a pity it was closed in 2009. But now they sell furniture there. The svobodny sokol metallurgical plant was leveled with the ground already in the 2000s. From it one and a half shops remained. "Centrolit" also 2009. The machine tool plant was also converted into a shopping center in the 2000s. Well, why do we need machines.
          In fairness, I note that we built new factories. After all, a "special zone" in any way. But in terms of size and volume, in the aggregate they do not cost one tractor plant. And I still do not consider closed factories in the region. And here's what's weird. all large factories in Lipetsk were closed/bankrupt in 2009. And now let's remember WHO was the Prime Minister from 2008 to 2012? Interesting thoughts about who the main liberal evokes, right?
          This is my city's luck.
      3. private person
        private person 15 December 2022 20: 59
        +3
        since the XNUMXs, we have been restoring what was destroyed by the drunk with the help of "partners"

        Since the 90s, we have ruined and destroyed everything that stood in the XNUMXs.
        1. igaivoro
          igaivoro 15 December 2022 21: 34
          0
          And now, my dear, explain - well, why did you do it?
          1. private person
            private person 16 December 2022 21: 06
            0
            And now, my dear, explain - well, why did you do it?

            Do not cling to words, even though I may not have destroyed you, our rulers have destroyed. But we were silent witnesses, we chose them.
  9. rocket757
    rocket757 15 December 2022 18: 19
    +4
    President of the Russian Federation: The calculation of the West on the destruction of the Russian economy did not materialize
    . Our People does not want and will not give up, which means WE WILL WIN, in spite of everyone and everything!
    1. Reptiloid
      Reptiloid 15 December 2022 19: 45
      +1
      Quote: rocket757
      ..... WE WILL WIN, in spite of everyone and everything!

      I believe Victor hi Otherwise it can not be.
      But if this
      our economy

      in addition to external enemies, they will also expose them inside, either nothing good, then 6 lard to Tajikistan, then laying tiles where it has not been in the park for 30 years, then building a new wedding palace .... and what is available? squandering, prodigality, thoughtlessness
      1. rocket757
        rocket757 16 December 2022 08: 28
        0
        So everything is complicated / simple ...
        We don’t know much, they don’t say much, they don’t explain, so it’s DIFFICULT to understand.
        Some actions JUST need to be done, because not doing them can make things worse.
  10. Scientist_
    Scientist_ 15 December 2022 18: 33
    +6
    The calculation of the West on the destruction of the Russian economy did not materialize

    How was it not justified? From the Russian economy there were only horns and legs. And not just a calculation, but a direct instruction from the West to Yeltsin and Putin.
  11. Scientist_
    Scientist_ 15 December 2022 18: 34
    +8
    Quote: aleksandroff
    since the XNUMXs, we have been restoring what was destroyed by the drunk with the help of "partners"

    And what was restored? Everything that Putin "restored" for verification turned out to be cardboard. Army, for example.
  12. Deon59
    Deon59 15 December 2022 18: 43
    +2
    Well, everything is fine, I’m already crying for joy. In 2020 I bought a gas water heater for 4800r, now my mother-in-law bought the same one 20 days ago for 7500. And when it was better. Many such examples can be made.
  13. Mikhail Maslov
    Mikhail Maslov 15 December 2022 18: 47
    +2
    Yes, very interesting. But this is only for this year. What will happen next? The war of attrition is just beginning.
  14. fa2998
    fa2998 15 December 2022 19: 15
    +1
    Quote: Max1995
    And poverty fell again

    Thanks to the work of funeral agencies. lol Also, if we count "on average", then the increase in the salary of the deputies played. Well, and other officials, of whom we have a ton of darkness! laughing wassat
  15. Elephant
    Elephant 15 December 2022 19: 29
    +3
    Another would be to ban our businessmen from sponsoring Western terrorists, from importing all sorts of rubbish like the Polish beer Solveza to the Russian Federation, etc.
  16. Old Horseradish
    Old Horseradish 15 December 2022 19: 31
    +4
    Nothing new. Salvage is exported in hundreds of billions of dollars. Well, the militias collect a penny each:
    "Net capital outflow from the Russian Federation in 2022 increased by 3,6 times
    According to the Central Bank of the Russian Federation, the indicator increased by 266 percent.
  17. Carlos Hall
    Carlos Hall 15 December 2022 20: 48
    -1
    The economic war of the West against Russia has so far failed completely.
  18. runway-1
    runway-1 15 December 2022 21: 01
    0
    Of course, due to the multiplier effect, the spillover effect of the conflict on the EU was larger than expected compared to the size of the Russian economy, but to say that everything is fine with us is a very strong exaggeration.
  19. runway-1
    runway-1 15 December 2022 21: 11
    -1
    Quote: Single-n
    Too early to draw conclusions. This is just the beginning. And in many areas - "We have not started anything seriously yet" (c).
    Only in a year or two will we feel all the consequences of the embargo and the reformatting of the economy.

    They are quite felt already now, and in a year or two they will fully manifest themselves (if nothing changes dramatically) ...
  20. vovochkarzhevsky
    vovochkarzhevsky 15 December 2022 21: 33
    +4
    Another gift:
    Putin signed a law to extend the freeze on the indexation of the base for calculating military pensions
    Interestingly, do they want to freeze the indexation of housing and communal services tariffs?
    1. AdAstra
      AdAstra 16 December 2022 10: 40
      0
      Why complain, then? Who is in formation and who did you go to vote for? And now please eat with a full spoon in silence.
      1. vovochkarzhevsky
        vovochkarzhevsky 16 December 2022 11: 07
        +1
        Do you really believe that voting in elections can change anything at all? Or that your votes decide something there? I have to disappoint you, the only thing that matters to the authorities is that you come to the polling station. The script itself, even the intrigue in it, has long been prescribed in advance.
        That is why I don’t go to this hypocrisy, it’s a pity for time.
        1. AdAstra
          AdAstra 16 December 2022 11: 13
          0
          I know this, but did they come in formation? I know exactly what came. And then again - please eat with a full spoon in silence.
          1. vovochkarzhevsky
            vovochkarzhevsky 16 December 2022 11: 23
            0
            Stop raving and pretending to be a seer. I have never gone to the polls.
            1. AdAstra
              AdAstra 16 December 2022 11: 30
              0
              And I didn’t write that you are a military man, but about a seer, then there is a certain experience, so to speak. And "wringing and raving", then this is not for me.
              1. vovochkarzhevsky
                vovochkarzhevsky 16 December 2022 11: 39
                0
                So what? I didn’t even go to the polls during my military service. Moreover, during the Soviet period, it was even forbidden for conscripts to arrive in formation at the polling station.
                1. AdAstra
                  AdAstra 16 December 2022 11: 52
                  0
                  So we are not writing about and for the Soviet era. You are units, so once again - please eat with a full spoon in silence.
                  1. vovochkarzhevsky
                    vovochkarzhevsky 16 December 2022 12: 02
                    0
                    Okay, let's put the question differently, what do you think should have been done. When you criticize, then suggest.
                    1. AdAstra
                      AdAstra 16 December 2022 12: 04
                      +1
                      I will not write this because the Criminal Code of the Russian Federation does not approve of this from the word at all. Moreover, in your first answer, one, one, of, albeit sooooo small, but steps was indicated.)))
                      1. vovochkarzhevsky
                        vovochkarzhevsky 16 December 2022 12: 31
                        +1
                        If there is not enough courage to say B, then there was nothing to stutter A. Moreover, I personally do not see a way out of the current impasse. And there are no worthy leaders, and the electorate is rotten from the bacillus of consumption.
                        And Maidan, if you are hinting at it, is only the way down.
                      2. AdAstra
                        AdAstra 16 December 2022 13: 42
                        0
                        So, as one of my colleagues used to say, you need to get out of here))
                      3. vovochkarzhevsky
                        vovochkarzhevsky 16 December 2022 13: 59
                        +1
                        And where to fall? Where are you waiting? And will it be better?
    2. minus
      minus 16 December 2022 17: 11
      +2
      So this is, they said that next year they will not index housing and communal services) Now, in the summer of 24, they promise the next planned indexation. True, this year they raised it twice .... So we hope that in the next year and a half they will not cheat again out of plans wassat
      1. AdAstra
        AdAstra 16 December 2022 17: 48
        +1
        We believe, we believe, we believe wassat
        Just cap. Repair does not apply to housing and communal services and, for example, in 23 in Sverdlovsk they plan to increase it by over 40%.
  21. Stoler
    Stoler 15 December 2022 23: 47
    +2
    what is there to destroy? How we pumped oil and we pump, how we suck gas and suck, how we chop wood and we chop, they began to pump water to China! THIS IS THE ECONOMY!! HOW CAN IT BE DESTROYED?
  22. Hindu
    Hindu 16 December 2022 00: 05
    +1
    Quote: Diana Ilyina
    What brands have left Russia for household goods? Now I can’t, but tomorrow I’ll come in as a specialist and take a picture of price changes for any position. And, by the way, Hanza (Poland), Burning (Slovenia) and some more from Russia are not particularly running. At least their technique is presented. As for Bosch, Samsung, LG and other crap, they are either made in Russia or China.

    You just listed the crap among the rest. The normal brands are gone. We'll have to import it using the scratch-scratch method.
  23. Hindu
    Hindu 16 December 2022 00: 07
    +2
    Quote: Zoldat_A
    Quote: nobody75
    Not true! Find American planetary mixer for sale...
    Sincerely

    Why do I need an American? I bought a good, high-quality, tested several times on other Chinese devices.
    Talk about "ten-dollar disposable Chinese" has become at least ten years old.

    Fox and grapes. Classic. Times change, people don't. laughing
  24. Hindu
    Hindu 16 December 2022 00: 10
    +3
    Quote: private person
    before the SVO, it cost us 28 rubles, and now it’s already 30.

    Well, an increase of 2 rubles, despite the fact that our guarantor announced a record grain harvest. We will also deliver grain to Africa for free. Well, since you touched on the topic of food, is it not noticeable how the same sausages and meat have risen in price?

    You butt heads with the patriots in vain, whatever happens to them is still a goyda. laughing
  25. Hindu
    Hindu 16 December 2022 00: 11
    +2
    Quote: Zoldat_A
    Quote: Diana Ilyina
    But what a misfortune, before the SVO we had 28 rubles, and now it’s already 30 ... But last year, on New Year’s Eve, it also went up from 22 to 24 rubles. Byada...

    And don't say Diana...
    I have been taking butter from the same aunt on the market for almost four years now. The price went up again a week ago. Second time in four years. A year and a half ago, a kilogram went up by 15 rubles, and now by as much as 20 ...
    How to continue to live? The family is on the verge of starvation. I think - which of the three Toyotas to sell so that there is enough for butter ...crying


    Yes, yes, sell it, otherwise "the yards are full of foreign cars, there is nowhere to put them."
    1. runway-1
      runway-1 16 December 2022 10: 47
      +1
      You are butting heads with the patriots in vain, whatever happens to them, it’s still goyda
      Yes, yes, sell it, otherwise "the yards are full of foreign cars, there is nowhere to put them."
      good Not in the eyebrow, but in the eye!
      ps Only about the fact that they are patriots - I do not agree ... winked
  26. Hindu
    Hindu 16 December 2022 00: 20
    0
    Quote from Luka Nord
    The calculation of the West on the destruction of the Russian economy did not materialize

    So they have been preparing since 2000 .. And since 2014, specifically.
    Life, of course, is not sugar, but compared to the 90s, it is quite stable and we don’t die of hunger (all our own) Food security is at its best, and the industry is working. etc. to arm the ukrina) Here is the witch


    Yes, yes, I paid the most evil for the kindest to our gullible and unlucky overplayed. I realized that I was deceived after her frank coming out.
    And if she had not confessed, but on the contrary, made a statement about friendship and cooperation?? Would you still believe them? Wow, trustworthy. How did he live up to such years?
    1. voice of reason
      voice of reason 16 December 2022 04: 09
      -4
      you look one-sided. You are only interested in how to gloat ahaha deceived and all in that style. And you think why she did it right now and what are the conclusions from this now? But right now, after such a successful statement .... what does it mean? right! it means that we are not ready to negotiate diplomatically under their guarantees. More like another HPP
  27. Chever
    Chever 16 December 2022 04: 41
    0
    Well, it's not evening yet ... So you can't relax
  28. ISKANDER_61
    ISKANDER_61 16 December 2022 06: 38
    +3
    And there is something to destroy. And without the West, for more than 20 years, he himself destroyed everything.
  29. Hindu
    Hindu 16 December 2022 07: 34
    +1
    Quote: voice of reason
    ...... More like another HPP


    This is where I absolutely agree. This is hpp. Next. As usual.
    The result will probably also be "next".
    Joke about the horse that came eighth heard?
  30. AdAstra
    AdAstra 16 December 2022 10: 33
    +2
    In general, as they say: "Life has become better, life has become more fun," the storyteller, and beat it.
  31. Alexandr2637
    Alexandr2637 3 January 2023 16: 21
    -2
    President of the Russian Federation: The calculation of the West on the destruction of the Russian economy did not materialize

    Another false vycer from the Darkest....
    Go to the nearest store, and everything will be clear .....