Estonia received an additional batch of self-propelled artillery installations K9 Thunder

Estonia received an additional batch of South Korean K9 Thunder self-propelled artillery mounts. The entire consignment arrived by sea in the port of Paldiski, where the unloading took place. This is reported by the Ministry of Defense of Estonia.

According to the Estonian military department, a total of 6 self-propelled guns K9 Thunder arrived in the republic, in total Estonia will receive 24 gun mounts.

On Saturday, six additional self-propelled guns K9 Thunder arrived at the South Port of Paldiski. Earlier, 12 artillery installations were delivered to Estonia from South Korea, which significantly improved the fire capabilities of the Estonian Defense Forces.

- said in a statement.

The first agreement on the purchase of a batch of 12 units of 155-mm K9 Thunder self-propelled howitzers was signed by Estonia and South Korea in 2018. The self-propelled guns are designed to arm the artillery battalion of the 1st infantry brigade of the Estonian army, which was armed with German 155-mm / 39 towed howitzers FH-70 and Soviet towed 122-mm howitzers D-30. The Estonian Ministry of Defense announced the purchase of a second batch of six K9 Thunder howitzers in 2019.

In total, Estonia ordered 18 howitzers with an option for six more self-propelled guns, for a total of 24 units.

155-mm / 52 self-propelled howitzer K9 Thunder weighs 47 tons, a powerful diesel engine in 1000 hp provides speeds of up to 67 km / h. Cruising range 480 km. Armed with the KNUMX 9-mm gun with a barrel length of 155 caliber, the rate of fire reaches 52 rounds per minute. Crew 15 people.

Comments

[rocket757]

155-mm / 52 self-propelled howitzer K9 Thunder weighs 47 tons, a powerful diesel engine of 1000 hp provides speeds of up to 67 km / h. Cruising range of 480 km. Armed with a K9 155 mm gun with a barrel length of 52 calibers, the rate of fire reaches 15 rounds per minute.

The performance characteristics are standard, in general ... the question is the same, how will they behave if you have to use them really intensively? In real combat conditions.

[dmi.pris1]

How will they lead? Well, before they fail for various reasons, they will have time to do harm. And this must be taken into account. They are actually under St. Petersburg anyway

[rocket757]

The weapon is serious, this is understandable ... the army, there, is not great, but every single heap can gather ... alas, this is so.

[Bad_gr]

And where does Estonia get the money to buy not cheap South Korean self-propelled guns?

[svp67]

Quote: Bad_gr

And where does Estonia get the money to buy not cheap South Korean self-propelled guns?

From the "detained" 300 lard, they took in "loans" ...

[svp67]

Quote: rocket757

Performance characteristics are standard, in general ...

Yes, higher than that of the M109 "Palladin" and even surpass the PZ-2000 in some ways /
But the pace of production, recently a batch was delivered to Poland, now to Estonia. And in general, how many people are able to find the Republic of Kazakhstan on the map, and she has gained what industrial power

[cold wind]

South Korea is an industrial superpower. For example, it takes up to 45% of the world's shipbuilding. The fact that they can produce artillery and tanks like "sausages" is not surprising.

[rocket757]

Weapons of a later development should have a performance characteristics no lower, or even higher, than those that were produced earlier ... of course, if it is not an ersatz, of some kind.
However, the minke whales and the Germans will do better than the previous ones if they take up this business.

[svp67]

Quote: rocket757

However, the minke whales and the Germans will do better than the previous ones if they take up this business.

Yes, somehow it turns out that for the RK the Germans, that tanks, that self-propelled guns do better ...

[rocket757]

The Koreans later began to do their own and did not shy away from seeing what others would do! They are not trendsetters, in the military sphere, very diligent, talented students.
And those who created the newest, most advanced, simply relaxed ... they did not lose the Cold War, they believe that they won, so why rest, tear their veins, they wanted to live on the "laurels of victory", soak up the sweetness! !! It happens ... but I believe in the "twilight Teutonic genius" ... not immediately, but they can "reborn from the ashes" once again ... God forbid, by the way!

[Negro]

M1299 in the coming years will go only to the Americans themselves. German howitzers with a long (longer than 52klb) barrel are still in development, they are not in service. So K9 will remain the best mass-produced solution until at least the 2030s. Yes, and the Koreans will most likely make a longer barrel without any problems.

[svp67]

Quote: Negro

Yes, and the Koreans will most likely make a longer barrel without any problems.

It's not so easy, and most importantly, there is no need

[Lara Croft]

Quote: svp67

But the pace of production, recently a batch was delivered to Poland, now to Estonia. And in general, how many people are able to find the Republic of Kazakhstan on the map, and she has gained what industrial power

They also make cool MBTs, as part of the Estonian SV there is also an ICBM, I won’t be surprised if it doesn’t have TB with South Korean K2 tanks in service

[alexoff]

Yes, they have their usual production rates, they made 300 pieces for themselves in 20 years. The Estonians ordered these self-propelled guns in 2018, as if the people fantasized that it was in February that they started moving and had already brought them. It is the rest that simply degraded and do not want to do anything (in the CE) and buy (from us).

[Bogalex]

Excuse me, but how are they superior to PzH 2000?

[North Caucasus]

I suspect NATO standards. There is a process of unification. NATO is not going to give back Russia the territories that NATO has wrested from the USSR and clearly shows this. With the escalation of the conflict, the closure of road and rail, air and sea navigation through the territories of NATO countries is quite realistic. How will we supply Kaliningrad?

[Negro]

Quote: North Caucasus

I suspect NATO standards

What is there to suspect? Naturally NATO,. Korea sat on American materiel until it began to make its own.

Quote: North Caucasus

How will we supply Kaliningrad?

So far, nothing threatens the ferry, and the bourgeoisie did not seem to be going to make a starvation blockade in the style of Berlin 1948. But technically, yes, you can close it at any time by arranging some kind of endless exercises in the Gulf of Finland.

[Aaron Zawi]

Quote: svp67

Quote: rocket757

Performance characteristics are standard, in general ...

Yes, higher than that of the M109 "Palladin" and even surpass the PZ-2000 in some ways /
But the pace of production, recently a batch was delivered to Poland, now to Estonia. And in general, how many people are able to find the Republic of Kazakhstan on the map, and she has gained what industrial power

Normally lead. In general, there are now two divisions of self-propelled guns 155mm in Estonia.

[DymOk_v_dYmke]

Quote: Aron Zaavi

Normally lead. In general, there are now two divisions of self-propelled guns 155mm in Estonia.

If Israel's neighbors get any iron from North Korea to you, will it be just as "drummed"?

[Aaron Zawi]

Quote: DymOk_v_dYmke

Quote: Aron Zaavi

Normally lead. In general, there are now two divisions of self-propelled guns 155mm in Estonia.

If Israel's neighbors get any iron from North Korea to you, will it be just as "drummed"?

Well, Iran seems to be getting the Su-35. What do we do now.

[DymOk_v_dYmke]

Quote: Aron Zaavi

Well, Iran seems to be getting the Su-35. What do we do now.

With elephantine calmness, drink coffee and analyze performance characteristics.

[Aaron Zawi]

Quote: DymOk_v_dYmke

Quote: Aron Zaavi

Well, Iran seems to be getting the Su-35. What do we do now.

With elephantine calmness, drink coffee and analyze performance characteristics.

Absolutely.

[DymOk_v_dYmke]

Quote: rocket757

The performance characteristics are standard, in general ... the question is the same, how will they behave if you have to use them really intensively? In real combat conditions.

Another question is significant: where are they going to use them?

Cruising range 480 km.

Drive under Peter?
Ukraine was given 8 years for armament and training. We have what we have.
We give sprats time to arm themselves modestly lowering their eyes.
But after all, they are not going to butt among themselves, not with the Finns, and it is known who will send them and where.
It's time to stop chewing "goodwill snot"!

[mitroha]

Quote: DymOk_v_dYmke

It's time to stop chewing "goodwill snot"!

Your suggestions? What exactly needs to be done now in your opinion?

[DymOk_v_dYmke]

Quote: Mitroha

Your suggestions? What exactly needs to be done now in your opinion?

At a minimum, stop separating economics and politics.
Rigidly link economic ties with political demands.
The United States, by the way, is doing just that.
There are leverage, I'm sure.

in April, Estonia exported goods worth almost 1,6 billion euros at current prices. At the same time, imports exceeded 2,1 billion euros.

Over the year, imports jumped by 31%, while exports grew by only 4%. The largest contributor to the trade deficit in April 2022 was mineral fuels, whose imports exceeded exports by 228 million euros. The largest increase in mineral fuel imports came from Lithuania, by 87 million euros, from Finland, by 78 million euros, and from Russia, by 33 million euros.

Finland was Estonia's largest export partner in April, followed by Latvia and Sweden. Estonia imported most goods from Finland, Lithuania and Russia.

The most imported goods were mineral fuels and electricity, metals and metal products, transport equipment and electrical equipment.

[rocket757]

The question is... can our government do something differently???
It seems to me that the answer is obvious.
Who, what and how can change in this situation, start doing differently??? And here the answer is obvious, perhaps not. I don’t see those, alas, alas ... at least those who CAN become a significant force in our country, at this point in time, who should be supported will join.
And now the question that everyone is already tired of, perhaps ... WHAT TO DO ???

[DymOk_v_dYmke]

The significance of the forces to a meager degree, but depends on each of us.

Quote: rocket757

And now the question that everyone is already tired of, perhaps ... WHAT TO DO ???

Support those of the forces that seem the least repulsive.
In elections at any level.
The party, ruining the life of the country, by all means inspires apathy and thoughts about the futility of such an action.

[rocket757]

I have never voted for these, not once, and for all of the top five ... but someone is voting for them stubbornly ... you can’t pull a high percentage out of nothing.
There are no other options yet ... there is hope that the "man with a gun" who returned from the war will have many questions for the current helmsmen ... in general, we will see.

[pharmacist]

It remains to be seen whether these howitzers will go to Ukraine.

[Negro]

Quote from Pharmacist

whether these howitzers will go to Ukraine.

Not anytime soon. Ukraine has contracted the supply of Crabs, but if the Poles abruptly remove the Crabs from production (they did not show themselves very well), then an exchange of the contract for K-9 is possible. Although, in such cases, the Poles would rather simply give up all the other Crabs from the stock, and leave the Koreans with them.

[voice of reason]

for balance, it is necessary that North Korea also get something. So that in the south they don’t relax very much ...

[svp67]

Quote: voice of reason

for balance, it is necessary that North Korea also get something.

Well, now, we’ll throw some kind of shells for artillery to them

[NOMADE]

Soon, rather the opposite. They will throw shells at us in exchange for humanitarian aid

[Lara Croft]

Quote: svp67

Well, now, we’ll throw some kind of shells for artillery to them

I wonder what? From the receiver PA, KPA, the Msta-S SG would be useful, but we ourselves have few of them, and they don’t need anything else for nothing ...

[svp67]

Quote: Lara Croft

From the receiver PA, KPA, the Msta-S SG would be useful, but we ourselves have few of them, and they don’t need anything else for nothing ...

And what about our defense developments? Especially in air defense?

[cold wind]

Maybe it's better that our troops get this "something"?

[Negro]

Quote: voice of reason

for balance, it is necessary that North Korea also receive something

In fact, the Russian Federation is now in no position to give away artillery.

[Arkady007]

For good, Estonia should be made a region within Russia.
There, 1/3 of the population is Russian (as in Latvia), Tallinn is almost 3/4 Russian.
To arrange a color revolution, similar to those that the United States is doing, it will not take much money. The Estonians themselves will not fight openly (the mentality is not the same), they will go into partisans.
But it will be later. Need an effect today. Shake up the entire Baltic to reduce their Wishlist and speeches against Russia.
Close all railway lines, block the transit of goods to ports, cut off electricity. You need to start talking to them specifically, then it will be harder.
The Minsk agreements confirm this.

[Aaron Zawi]

Quote: Arkady007

For good, Estonia should be made a region within Russia.

Will not work.

The last census was carried out in 2021. According to it, the number of inhabitants of Estonia as of December 31, 2021 amounted to 1 people, the share of Estonians (excluding persons of unknown nationality) - 331% (824 people); the proportion of men was 69,4%, women - 919% [711]; 47,6% of the country's inhabitants lived in Tallinn.

[vindigo]

It turns out that people in Estonia live like in Krasnodar with its suburbs!

[Arkady007]

There are suspicions that you are wrong.
31.12.2021 Estonians 69,1%, Russians 23,7%, Ukrainians 2,1%, Belarusians 0,9%, Finns 0,6%, others 3,7%.
Yes, and in Tallinn there is something to think about, for 2021 Estonians - 233, Russians - 520.
Therefore, what to shake and where to eat.

[cat Rusich]

Quote: Aaron Zawi

The last census was carried out in 2021. According to it, the number of inhabitants of Estonia as of December 31, 2021 amounted to 1 people, the share of Estonians (excluding persons of unknown nationality) - 331% (824 people); the proportion of men was 69,4%, women - 919% [711]; 47,6% of the country's inhabitants lived in Tallinn.

To begin with, let's return Narva and the surrounding lands to the Native Harbor.

[Aaron Zawi]

Quote: cat Rusich

To begin with, let's return Narva and the surrounding lands to the Native Harbor.

Will you personally return?

[NOMADE]

Well, yes, they have already received Russian Ukraine ..

[orionvitt]

12 artillery mounts, which significantly improved the firepower of the Estonian Defense Forces

Is this some kind of Estonian joke? I understand that even a single weapon can be dangerous, but to state that 12 pieces, much increase the firepower of the army .... You know, it looks like a joke. At least 120, I would understand, but so ... However, what countries, such armies, such opportunities. By the way, why is the self-propelled gun in a case? I understand that there is transportation, packaging, or are you afraid that it will rust along the way? How are they going to fight them?

[Kusja]

And what, did they send a lot of three-axes to Ukraine? And they are constantly mentioned in our media and on talk shows as some kind of miracle weapon.

[Fangaro]

Estonia is a small state. Natural resources are more likely no than yes.
The population is small. There are also no large industrial enterprises.
There are or were interesting and profitable software and IT projects.
Tourism there most often gave money from Russia.
Where does Estonia get money for new weapons? Even if it is on credit, then you will have to give your own.

[tralflot1832]

No one seems suspicious that the United States has allowed the South Caucasus to arm Poland and Estonia. And Finland wants as many as 96 pieces.

[isv000]

And I love the cover! Turn upside down - a noble tent will turn out, and liquid can be poured into the trunk ...

[Anton_from_Brest]

Are there enough people in Estonia to manage them?)