Military Review

British intelligence suggests that Russia received a new batch of Shahed-type kamikaze drones

42
British intelligence suggests that Russia received a new batch of Shahed-type kamikaze drones

The Russian army resumed strikes with the help of kamikaze drones, attacking several objects at once in the depths of Ukrainian territory. This could mean that Russia has received a new batch of drones from Iran. This conclusion was reached by British intelligence, which studied the latest reports of the General Staff of the Armed Forces of Ukraine about "dozens" of downed Russian drones.


According to the Ukrainian military, Russian troops used the Geran-type loitering ammunition, which in Ukraine with enviable tenacity is called the Iranian Shahed 131 and Shahed 136, after a break that lasted three weeks. Prior to this, the General Staff of the Armed Forces of Ukraine reported on the "downed" "Geran" on November 17. As stated in the Ministry of Defense, on December 6, Russia attacked Ukrainian objects of critical infrastructure with the help of "Geraniums", but the valiant Ukrainian air defense immediately "shot down" 17 "Iranian" drones. And on December 7, an attack by drones on the Zaporozhye and Dnipropetrovsk regions was repulsed.

For the first time in three weeks, there have been reports of attacks by Iranian-provided unmanned aerial vehicles. These developments are yet to be verified, but it is likely that Russia has exhausted its previous supply of several hundred Shahed drones and has now received a resupply.

says a new British intelligence report.

In London, it is assumed that Russia has received a new batch of drones and now Ukraine needs to prepare for new attacks by Shahid mopeds. At the same time, Kyiv still does not have the means to combat drones, and the air defense systems in service have proved to be ineffective. The brave reports of the General Staff of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, in which air defense shoots down several dozen cruise missiles or kamikaze drones at a time, is an attempt to wishful thinking.
42 comments
Ad

Subscribe to our Telegram channel, regularly additional information about the special operation in Ukraine, a large amount of information, videos, something that does not fall on the site: https://t.me/topwar_official

Information
Dear reader, to leave comments on the publication, you must sign in.
  1. aleksr2005
    aleksr2005 9 December 2022 12: 36
    +4
    I constantly read on one moderate Ukrainian Telegram channel that British intelligence is transmitting everything to them. Sometimes such information that you think how many moles in Russia working for the West?
    1. GRIGORIY76
      GRIGORIY76 9 December 2022 13: 25
      +2
      If the FSB starts catching them, over time the country will lose control.
      1. SKVichyakow
        SKVichyakow 9 December 2022 13: 34
        +4
        Quote: GRIGORIY76
        If the FSB starts catching them, over time the country will lose control.

        When Chubais destroyed everything in the country where his hands could reach, they were bought by a cart and a small cart. I think they are in all areas and at any level.
    2. Illanatol
      Illanatol 9 December 2022 13: 48
      0
      British intelligence draws conclusions based on the work of British scientists.
      British scientists, they are like that - they will calculate everything without leaving their offices. And where did the polonium come from with the newcomer and how many more "geranium mopeds" did Iran throw at us ... laughing
  2. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 9 December 2022 12: 36
    +2
    This conclusion was made by British intelligence, which studied the latest reports of the General Staff of the Armed Forces of Ukraine.
    Well, if British intelligence draws its conclusions solely by reading the reports of the General Staff of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, then all questions about this intelligence are automatically removed. Are they really lazy to such an extent that they only have enough strength to read Ukrainian reports or are they pretending?
  3. Zaurbek
    Zaurbek 9 December 2022 12: 36
    +10
    At the same time, Kyiv still does not have the means to combat drones, and the air defense systems in service have proved to be ineffective.


    And who has them? I think that the attack of such in our direction will be a big challenge for our air defense.
    1. Pantsuy
      Pantsuy 9 December 2022 12: 54
      +6
      Quote: Zaurbek
      I think that the attack of such in our direction will be a big challenge for our air defense.

      A big challenge for our air defense was the attack of a huge, like an airplane, "upright" "Reis" or "Swift". Which we use as a target for practicing air defense during exercises. So, we have such a "working out"
      1. Zaurbek
        Zaurbek 9 December 2022 13: 04
        +4
        Just with this there are fewer problems, and there they are small and distant, and some are guided by radar
      2. lopvlad
        lopvlad 9 December 2022 15: 09
        +1
        Quote: Pantsuy
        A big challenge for our air defense was the attack of a huge, like an airplane, "upright" "Reis" or "Swift".


        it didn’t turn out because the drone was shot down when it got into the air defense coverage area of ​​\uXNUMXb\uXNUMXbthe object, and it flew so far only thanks to NATO military satellites, the information from which helped it bypass and not get into other air defense zones on the route.
        And by the way, it is not upright, and both in speed and in changing flight altitude, maneuvering surpasses the American Tomahawk cruise missile, yielding to it only invisibility, but at the same time having a huge weight (more than 5 and a half tons, unlike a tomahawk weighing no more than one and a half tons). And if the drone had not been shot down over the airfield, then the losses for Russian tactical aviation would have been simply huge.
      3. Alexander Salenko
        Alexander Salenko 9 December 2022 18: 22
        0
        This doesn't last long. You see, there are spectacular battles in ancient history, for example, Ifficrates’ javelin throwers rolled out the Spartan pestilence, there were 8 such units and there were only XNUMX of them, Crassus’s army was rolled out with light cavalry, it also looked spectacular, but all this at once.
        In our memory, the defeat of the Maikop brigade and those who left on foot left for the most part, and when something similar began to happen, for example, in Kharkov, the soldiers abandoned their cars and left in courtyards.
    2. Andy_nsk
      Andy_nsk 9 December 2022 14: 12
      +3
      At the same time, Kyiv still does not have the means to combat drones, and the air defense systems in service have proved to be ineffective.

      And who has them? I think that the attack of such in our direction will be a big challenge for our air defense.

      Come on! And the German "Gepard", and the Soviet "Shilka"? Well, modern missile-cannon air defense systems of the "Shell" type will calmly shoot down both Gerani and Shahedov. The range, of course, is short, only object defense can be organized, all these "mopeds" have a low RCS (such as budget "invisibles" wink ), but the engines are still metal, so radars lend themselves.
    3. lopvlad
      lopvlad 9 December 2022 14: 52
      +1
      Quote: Zaurbek
      I think that the attack of such in our direction will be a big challenge for our air defense.


      you think wrong. Bayraktar will be cooler than Geranium, but Russian air defense would effectively bring it down, and if in Ukraine there were modern complexes TOR, Pantsiri, Buki with new missiles, then they would bring down Geranium with ease.
      1. Zaurbek
        Zaurbek 10 December 2022 23: 22
        +1
        Hitting is not such a problem. But. Geranium is smaller, it costs a penny (bayraktar still needs to be done. RF, here, Orions cannot be mass-produced) there are a lot of them. 20 will be shot down, 5 pieces will arrive.
        1. lopvlad
          lopvlad 12 December 2022 15: 38
          0
          Quote: Zaurbek
          RF, here, Orions cannot be mass-produced


          do not confuse a reusable attack drone with a disposable kamikaze attack drone. Russia just didn’t need heavy disposable kamikaze drones before Ukraine. And all because we once again overestimated the capabilities of Western air defense, the very one that, in our opinion, should have easily brought down targets like Geranium, but in reality, it turned out to be unable to do this. And for an enemy who does not have air defense, bomber aircraft flying at an altitude inaccessible to any MANPADS, which we saw in Syria, did an excellent job of destroying targets on the ground.
          In the same way, on the eve of the war, we overestimated the armor of German tanks when, before the Second World War, we believed that all German tanks had a thick armor that could not be penetrated by an anti-tank gun, and therefore the production and development of such weapons was a waste of money.
          But the reality turned out to be different, and then in a few months in 1941, the PTRD (Degtyarev anti-tank rifle) and PTRS (Simonov anti-tank rifle) were invented, produced and put into service with the Red Army, from which German tanks were effectively burned.
          1. Zaurbek
            Zaurbek 12 December 2022 15: 47
            0
            These are different devices for different purposes. You are confusing this.
    4. Alexander Salenko
      Alexander Salenko 9 December 2022 18: 18
      0
      On the basis of the 810th Marine Brigade, we have ownerless shilkas, I think they can handle it, like the 2x23 zushki.
  4. Carlos Hall
    Carlos Hall 9 December 2022 12: 36
    +2
    Buy more and make more drones of this type to saturate enemy defenses
  5. spirit
    spirit 9 December 2022 12: 39
    +5
    Iranian helmets and armor have already lit up at the front, it seems we are buying everything we can
    1. Pantsuy
      Pantsuy 9 December 2022 12: 56
      +5
      Quote: spirit
      Iranian helmets and armor have already lit up at the front, it seems we are buying everything we can

      Soon there will be Chinese winter uniforms. In vain, perhaps our transport workers fly to China in batches ... They don’t have their own, so at least the neighbors will throw it in.
  6. iouris
    iouris 9 December 2022 12: 39
    +6
    "British intelligence" is the SBU, and the SBU is "British intelligence".
    If Iranian drones can win the war with NATO, then this will be a phenomenal result. But personally, I don't count on it. The point in the war is not even put by a tanker (with all due respect), but by an infantryman.
    1. oleg-nekrasov-19
      oleg-nekrasov-19 9 December 2022 12: 44
      +2
      yes, about in the middle - bloggers from 404 th with "garbage canals" created by the SBU to whip up waves and "throw on the fan", and Russia also has its own individuals
  7. antivirus
    antivirus 9 December 2022 12: 40
    +1
    It is good that in a godless country there are no miraculous towels.
    Otherwise, they would have waved and the sky would not have become a transparent firmament.
    End of aerodynamics
  8. 4ekist
    4ekist 9 December 2022 12: 41
    +1
    British intelligence suggests ........

    Let them continue to speculate. fool
    1. oleg-nekrasov-19
      oleg-nekrasov-19 9 December 2022 12: 59
      +2
      always said that "British intelligence" and "British scientists" are from the same team wink
  9. Boniface
    Boniface 9 December 2022 12: 45
    -1
    damn how funny!
    Gluing from molds using fiberglass, epoxy and plywood "Geranka" is no problem, from the word AT ALL. We probably already have these stocks .... Production time = polymerization time XPS + assembly
    And the components (control units, engines) can also be brought on an Aeroflot "Tehran-Moscow" regular plane on an unmeasured scale, no one will notice!
    No one will bother to carry a full Drone!
    1. Third district
      Third district 9 December 2022 13: 36
      -1
      Quote: Boniface
      damn how funny!
      Gluing from molds using fiberglass, epoxy and plywood "Geranka" is no problem, from the word AT ALL. We probably already have these stocks

      You can certainly build everything, no doubt. But for some reason, no one has built it before. Although the issue of domestic drones became acute even after the five-day war on 08.08.08.
      1. Boniface
        Boniface 9 December 2022 13: 42
        0
        this is a question - definitely not for me
        Most likely to the General Staff - although I was there somehow, I did not solve these issues
    2. Zaurbek
      Zaurbek 10 December 2022 23: 24
      +2
      It's a shame not to do it all inside the Russian Federation. ICE Iran copied without a license in the 70s.
  10. rocket757
    rocket757 9 December 2022 12: 46
    +4
    The brave reports of the General Staff of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, in which air defense shoots down several dozen cruise missiles or kamikaze drones at a time, is an attempt to wishful thinking.
    . They shoot down, a part, of course, but the final result is important.
    1. oleg-nekrasov-19
      oleg-nekrasov-19 9 December 2022 13: 03
      +4
      And the most important thing is the end result, so they always look not at statements about the "colossal work of air defense", but at the number of destroyed strategic and infrastructure facilities.
      1. rocket757
        rocket757 9 December 2022 14: 21
        +2
        Winter will be ... ordinary, most likely, but even this, for many, will simply not survive.
        1. Reptiloid
          Reptiloid 9 December 2022 20: 03
          +1
          Greetings Victor hi how did their ancestors live before without any electricity! And nothing! And without the USSR. somehow they will survive
          1. rocket757
            rocket757 9 December 2022 20: 08
            +1
            Hi Dmitry soldier
            I doubt that many people want to live the way they used to live!
            Most are not ready, just endure, and only back to the firewood, stove and cuirassins .... no, no, there are no bad ones.
            1. Reptiloid
              Reptiloid 9 December 2022 20: 59
              +1
              Quote: rocket757
              .... Most are not ready, just endure, .....

              Of course, someone will quickly run to Poland, someone will be far away from impatience .... but someone will remain .... how are their Klitschkos a lot of moralizing lol told them...
              Yes, and British scientists will advise them something.
              1. rocket757
                rocket757 9 December 2022 21: 33
                +1
                It's their choice ... who is their doctor, certainly not us.
  11. Pantsuy
    Pantsuy 9 December 2022 12: 51
    +2
    We are constantly offered photographs of obviously Iranian launchers. Because they are made somewhere in the desert and on the basis of cars unfamiliar to us. I wonder what the launchers of our Russian Geraniums look like? And on the basis of what car they are created. If there are such ... Information about this (especially photos) - zero
    1. The comment was deleted.
    2. Zaurbek
      Zaurbek 10 December 2022 23: 26
      0
      The main thing is the body, taking into account the range of 2000 km, you can safely launch them from the Crimea, Belgorod from simple semi-trailers like dump trucks on civilian tractors. off the asphalt
      1. Pantsuy
        Pantsuy 11 December 2022 02: 43
        0
        Quote: Zaurbek
        The main thing is the body, taking into account the range of 2000 km, you can safely launch them from the Crimea, Belgorod from simple semi-trailers like dump trucks on civilian tractors. off the asphalt

        Well, yes, in principle, the system is not complicated. But they do not show us such a Russian system. I wonder why?
        It’s very curious - was a special carrier created or a civilian truck converted and on what basis
        1. Zaurbek
          Zaurbek 11 December 2022 14: 21
          +2
          The topic is not convenient for our MO. Iranian drone, they show only the wreckage, if you show the launcher, it will be clear that this is a Shahid ..... And that our Defense Ministry has messed up a whole direction
  12. Mavrikiy
    Mavrikiy 9 December 2022 13: 55
    +1
    British intelligence suggests that Russia received a new batch of Shahed-type kamikaze drones
    request Guess what to tryndet, British intelligence fool "He who has musk in his pocket does not shout about it at every corner." And if it is not there, then yes, you have to tear your throat .... recourse
  13. Holy Diver
    Holy Diver 9 December 2022 16: 54
    -1
    loitering ammunition of the "Geran" type, which in Ukraine with enviable tenacity is called Iranian Shahed 131 and Shahed 136

    And why this phrase, if no one really hides the fact that these drones are really Iranian?
  14. Sergei N 58912062
    Sergei N 58912062 15 December 2022 22: 41
    0


    With love from Russia for the "brotherly" people!