Defense Minister Shoigu revealed the scale of the losses of the Armed Forces of Ukraine in November

The losses of the armed forces of Ukraine in November 2022 exceeded 8,3 thousand military personnel. This was stated by the Minister of Defense of the Russian Federation, General of the Army Sergei Shoigu.

As the head of the military department noted, in November, the Armed Forces of Ukraine, in addition to huge losses of personnel, also lost five aircraft, ten helicopters, 149 tanks and over 300 infantry fighting vehicles, armored personnel carriers and other armored vehicles.

There is no doubt that the losses of the Armed Forces of Ukraine are really very large. The calculations of the Russian military find indirect confirmation in the statements of Ukrainian and Western political and military figures. For example, the head of the European Commission, Ursula von der Leyen, estimated the irretrievable losses of the Armed Forces of Ukraine at 100 people since the start of the special operation (that is, just about 10 people per month). True, this fragment was soon cut out of her speech on the social network.

The Ukrainian military admitted on social networks in a very difficult situation in the Donbass, including near Artemivsk (Ukrainians call it Bakhmut), Avdiivka and Marinka. The commander of the Ukrainian military battalion "Svoboda" (nationalist formation, banned in the Russian Federation) Petr Kuzyk, for example, in an interview with the British press stated that the losses of the Armed Forces of Ukraine near Artemivsk are so high that no one counts the dead, and the trenches are filled with bodies.

Major human losses are a direct consequence of the criminal policy of the Kyiv regime, led by Volodymyr Zelensky, who turned the Ukrainian people into "cannon fodder" in the service of the West.

Comments

[Uprun]

The tenth month of Bandera is celebrating the ball ..... this "holiday" cannot last forever.

[Trapp1st]

this "holiday" cannot go on forever.

Forever and it is not necessary, it is necessary longer than Russia.

[dmi.pris1]

In terms of losses, I think Shoigu is close to the truth. In the fall, the losses of the Armed Forces of Ukraine increased. But there is no talk of any 400 thousand.

[Vladimir_2U]

Quote: dmi.pris

But there is no talk of any 400 thousand there. Even if you don’t include terrestrial bombers, various thugs from the National Guard as part of the Armed Forces of Ukraine

Yes, even a billion, our losses are more important!

[dmi.pris1]

Of course, more importantly, these are our neighbors, colleagues, for whom they are relatives ... They won’t say about the number of our dead now. Only after the war ...

[Shurik70]

Quote: dmi.pris

They won’t say about the number of our dead now. Only after the war ...

70 years after the war.
And yes. If foreign mercenaries must be destroyed without giving the opportunity to surrender, then it is better to capture the Ukrainians alive (unless there is evidence that they are Nazis).
It's really full of our relatives. Let them sit out in the camp until the conclusion of peace.

[YOUR]

Quote: Vladimir_2U

Yes, even a billion, our losses are more important!

But we don't know about them. And such a decree is losses are a secret.

[Belopolyak]

Quote: Vladimir_2U

Yes, even a billion, our losses are more important!

How can you understand everything, and our people are dying here and there. Give him a billion, ugh.

[Vladimir_2U]

Quote: Belopolsky

How can you understand everything, and our people are dying here and there. Give him a billion

You didn’t understand that Shoigu and Konashenkov could “bury” at least a billion adversaries in the reports, everything is the same. Well, Khikhly is far from "ours". That's how Ukraine will not become there and we'll see. Maybe it will work out with the GDR.

[Anatoly 288]

It would be better if Shoigu reported on the fight against corruption in his department! With such a rigid hierarchy of power, I doubt that he did not know about the extent of the theft.

[Alf]

Quote: Anatoly 288

It would be better if Shoigu reported on the fight against corruption in his department! With such a rigid hierarchy of power, I doubt that he did not know about the extent of the theft.

Well, the marshal didn’t know the furniture, he passed it as a witness in court ... Traditions should not be violated.

[bk316]

But there is no talk of any 400 thousand.

Once again I inform those who are in the tank.
100 irretrievable (killed and crippled)
about 3-4 times more wounded - 350000 wounded

And it is not clear how many unaccounted for rotting in the forests - missing. Neither we nor the Ukrainians nor the geyropa consider them. Analyst data is from 100000 to 400000, well, I don’t believe in 400000, but in any case it’s not less than 100.
We have 200 unconditionally irrevocable
350 seems to be returnable, but rehabilitation after a normal fracture of the tibia is six months. That is, 200 thousand are not yet returnable.
Total those same 400 losses.

[Kriso Sborshik]

400 losses, that's 000 x-hlov a day. To do this, they must march 2000/24 with their hands up on machine gun turrets. Pesci ischo

[bk316]

To do this, they must march 24/7 with their hands up on machine gun turrets.

This is of course an argument.

But the fact that the number of wounded is at least 3 times higher than the number of those killed is known to everyone who is at least a little interested in the topic.
Well, yes tsipsoshniks do not differ in knowledge.

[Horon]

this is 2000 x-hlov per day

The front line is about 2000 km, this is 1 person per kilometer of front per day.

[isv000]

Quote from Kriso Sborshik

To do this, they must march 24/7 with their hands up on machine gun turrets.

But this is an interesting thought!

[YOUR]

As of January 1.01.2022, 41, the population of Ukraine amounted to about 24.02.22 million people. I can’t imagine where they got these numbers from, but there is and how they thought Crimea and the DLNR were also included in the population of Ukraine. But the Americans calculated that starting from February 10, 5, more than 5 million people left Ukraine, if they counted Crimea and the LPR / DPR at least another 20 million minus. On the territory that went to Russia, we will consider another XNUMX million left and that there are XNUMX left, maybe a little more citizens.
Why these calculations?
Moreover, at present, almost the entire male population is from 18 to 50 in the army and the losses from the entire remaining population are 0.5% This is not just a lot, it is catastrophic since this is the most able-bodied and reproductive population.

[neworange88]

According to the statistics of the Verkhovna Rada of Ukraine, 34,5 million people lived in the state before the start of the NWO. Where did you get the figure of 41 million from?

The Verkhovna Rada has published the draft state budget for 2023. It, among other things, raised the issue of reducing the population after February 24th. The Rada provides the following statistical reference with figures: by September, the population had decreased to 27,8 million people, before the start of the war, 34,5 million people lived in the state, while in 1993 there were 52 million people in Ukraine

https://news-front.info/2022/11/23/naselenie-ukrainy-za-period-nezavisimosti-sokratilos-v-dva-raza/

[YOUR]

Quote from: neworange88

Where did you get the figure of 41 million?

From where you are from the Internet.

[Zakirov Damir]

Quote: bk316

Once again I inform those who are in the tank.
100 irretrievable (killed and crippled)
about 3-4 times more wounded - 350000 wounded

So almost the entire forum in the tank! Who are you trying to convey to?

1. 8.6 thousand - these are the recorded losses of manpower from drones and according to reports of troops on the line of contact, which corresponds to 300 people per day

2. And "besides this, 5 aircraft, 10 helicopters, 149 tanks and 300 armored personnel carriers were destroyed" ... They are exclusively unmanned - they drove themselves, fired themselves, disposed of themselves!

3. During strikes on rear depots, barracks, training grounds, hangars with military equipment and railway stations throughout Ukraine, data on casualties were also immediately received by Shoigu from Zaluzhny. How else?

I understand that we are at war with a fraternal people and it is undesirable to embitter this fraternal people with heavy losses against the Russian army, but why take the Russians for idiots, Mr. Shoigu?

How many more idiots are there who believed in 8.6 thousand dead as the final losses of the Armed Forces of Ukraine in November? Quit please!

[Osiris]

Your data on the losses of the Armed Forces of Ukraine correspond to reality by 90%. Data on the missing 15000-20000 people. We will never know the exact data. The NVO revealed the incredible bitterness of the enemy (APU), which was not expected by our staff officers when planning the campaign ...

[Peter1First]

I think that I announced only 90 ... 100% confirmed losses. If 8,3 thousand people \u200d 300, then \u3d 320 is XNUMX times more, of which some will also die in hospitals, some will be commissioned, in addition, there are still losses from long-range shelling and preventive strikes, where it is difficult to take data on enemy losses . There are still XNUMX thousand "missing" and I do not think that most of them are deserters, rather these are concealed losses.

[voice of reason]

We need to draw conclusions from concrete successes. And then, when retreating from the Kharkov and Kherson regions, they were very fond of looking for "extreme" ones, appointing the guilty, etc. And when it comes to successful actions, the merits of specific organizations are in no hurry to recognize. The PMCs of Wagner distinguished themselves there and specifically the "penny", well, have the courage to admit that they are more effective in urban battles and in general in organizing actions in small groups. There is some merit of the Cossacks of the sixth Cossack, okay, admit it. They used snow leopards to gain a foothold in Soledar, tell us about it. Draw conclusions, allocate additional funds and resources, and so on.

[spirit]

Parquetny’s rating has fallen below the plinth, to the top 3 anti-ratings. And since this is the most important thing for him (not to engage in war), he will now appropriate for himself anything that can whitewash his “smart” little head

[APASUS]

The war is on two fronts. The United States is weakening Russia and erasing Ukrainians as a nation. Those who have rushed into the EU are now being forced to assimilate, the men will be knocked out on the battlefields, and the old people in the country will die out on their own.

[Two]

All this simply confirms the narrow-mindedness and motivation of Svidomites! With reflashed brains, only Svidomo's bright future is in HELL!

[Zaurbek]

They've been active for three months now...

[Alexander Salenko]

Of course, it is true, but for example, in the distant Crimean War, there was a battle at Inkerman. There, the British also retreated, so as not to bring them to the bayonet and poured lead on our infantry.

[Zaurbek]

Now the army of the Russian Federation is doing this .... It pours fire, bombs and lays mines. I to this. If 8700 were killed in November .... then the same rate was in October and September. =26100 people So, the losses of 404 in 100000 fighters announced by the Europeans do not look fantastic.

[Alexander Salenko]

I don’t know who slapped you with a minus and for what. but in general we came to an understanding

[Zaurbek]

These are saboteurs from 404 or liberals from the Russian Federation.

[Churchill]

Voice your losses, "commander" ..

[vinschu]

Perhaps it’s not worth voicing, but about the “commander”, I agree, only with the addition of colorful epithets!

[Ghost1]

APU retains a combat-ready state - which means that these losses are not significant, as well as general.

[Alexander Salenko]

Saves but not indefinitely. According to one American general, the Armed Forces of Ukraine fire 7 shells per day, and we do 20. On both sides, these shots "harvest." It is purely mathematically clear whose losses are higher, and the mobilization capabilities of the Russian Federation are higher, it will not be possible to completely replace the Armed Forces of Ukraine with mercenaries.

[Carlos Hall]

With all due respect to Marshal Shoigu. Stalin would have already shot those military leaders who made it possible to capture a significant number of tanks and armored vehicles intact. It is useless for Russia to destroy 100 Ukrainian tanks if the Ukrainian army then captures the same number of whole Russian ones. You must start shooting to restore order and discipline on the battlefield.

[tralflot1832]

Carlos, do you have an alpenstock? Does Borel look like a Spaniard? Send it to him by mail. Now the fashion in the EU, send something to someone by mail.

[Carlos Hall]

Borrell, that Catalan brigand, is so insignificant that he does not deserve a letter. The CIA and the Spanish state's security forces are powerless to catch Crusade Z's Templar dealing cards. They tried to find him in Valladolid, a city where there is a lot of snow and it is very cold, but the messenger can travel by ba-ba-car. How are you planning to catch it?

[Alexander Salenko]

With shoot, you probably mean Pavlov and his headquarters. Yes, it was, but then it stopped. For example, Marshal Timoshenko was forgiven even after Kharkov and removed after the encirclement near Millerovo, Kozlov and Mekhlis received a hat each after the Crimean disaster, but remained completely in service, and the same Kozlov was "lucky" to be bombed out not only in the Crimea but also near Kharkov. It is necessary to punish, but shooting is not a good idea. Then any initiative will be shackled. Do you think that Rokossovsky, deeply respected by me, did not have jambs?

[Carlos Hall]

When a serious problem arises, an urgent solution is needed. It cannot be that the Russian army destroyed 400 Ukrainian tanks, and then Zelensky's army captured 400 Russian tanks intact.

[Alexander Salenko]

No, but who told you about it? Zelensky? Do you have any idea what the capture of 400 tanks is? To be clear, this is more than in a tank division. You understand, I read your posts, everything seems to be reasonable, tell us where you get the game about capturing 400 tanks? For example, in the 58th Army, there are either 602 or 603 tanks in total.
And here you are talking about 400 captured tanks, not knocked out, not lost during operation, but captured. Forgive me for the indiscreet question: Are you out of your mind?

[Carlos Hall]

So I send you, and then you tell me. https://www.oryxspioenkop.com/2022/02/attack-on-europe-documenting-equipment.html?m=1

[Alexander Salenko]

The word you type is so difficult?
I followed the link, so what should it tell me? I also scratched papers of a smaller scale and not on a military topic. But your problem is that you closed up about 400 tanks without thinking, I met few people in the open spaces of tyrnet who would admit they were wrong.
You probably understand more than me in tanks, but I hasten to remind you that 8 years ago all the wrecked T-72s were passed off as Russians, such as they don’t exist in Ukraine, although it turned out that there are. I’m already silent that T-72 could also be called T-64 Do you know how they differ?
;00 tanks, I can't help it, talker, this is more than there is in the Bundeswehr on the move and it's a little less than in Poland
I can show the tank numbers anyway, but I can’t know for sure if it’s a Russian tank, or Polish, Czech, Slovak, and so on. What did you throw out to me as an argument?
And learn to communicate politely with strangers, you have your experience, I have mine. And unlike you, you know my name, you can break through, so tie it up with pontogonism. If you rummage about something more than mine, I'll ask myself.

[cat Rusich]

Quote from Carlos Sala

With all due respect to Marshal Shoigu. .

S. K. Shoigu in 2003 was awarded the title army General.
The only Marshal of Russia in 1997, I.D. Sergeev (1938 - 2006), Minister of Defense of Russia in 1997-2001, became.
Rank Marshal of Russia remains in the list of ranks of the Russian army, but was no longer assigned ...

Shoulder straps of the Marshal of Russia.

Igor Dmitrievich Sergeev.

[Battle Toads]

Quote: Churchill

Voice your losses, "commander" ..

Not one has yet been able to explain why he needs the number of his losses, take a chance, analyst,

[dauria]

This minister is not doing well and needs to be replaced

This is how the text should have ended. The rest is redundant.
And about Shoigu ... You can also appoint Valentina Matvienko as a prima ballerina at the Bolshoi Theater, but only until the first tour of Swan Lake. Why he was not removed is the great secret of the survival of party careerists.

[rotmistr60]

Quote: voice of reason

... well, have the courage to admit

And does anyone hush up their merits? Military correspondents constantly celebrate successfully operating units, regular awards to those who distinguished themselves in battles ...

[Ohsetin]

In how many months / years will our real ones be voiced?

[Gvardeetz77]

Quote: Ohsetin

In how many months / years will our real ones be voiced?

I probably won’t know this because of my age, because even if you live to see the end of the SVO, this does not mean that those voiced will be real right away, but when in about ten years they will calculate more or less normally (with the militia, PMCs, volunteers, losses of other Ministries and Departments that are missing, Sanitary ones that have become irretrievable), then it will be possible to talk about more or less real losses, though there may be some magic numbers

[Battle Toads]

Quote: Voyvoda

This minister is doing poorly and should be replaced by Prigozhin, Kadyrov or Medvedev. Russian losses in killed and wounded amounted to at least 100 people.

News from a parallel universe

[Uprun]

This is where it got flawed on the VO, did they leak the password of the free Wi-Fi in the fool?

[Alexander Salenko]

Sorry to butt in, but you communicate with a person on the Internet and your loss figure is nonsense. There are losses, and sometimes significant. For example, at the beginning of the SVO 126, the brigade lost 40 people, this is the first literally month and this is not a little. My friend who served half of the lost knew there. But it is simply impossible to hide such losses as a hundred thousand, we would already have new cemeteries in the Crimea.
Well, cemeteries are a so-so argument, physically it doesn’t work out, in total 120 thousand entered Ukraine, including the brigade I mentioned and, according to you, it should lie down completely, which is not at all the case.
And the third moment, I watch TV, they don’t talk about our losses in the complex at all. I understand that you might want to shoot as many more of ours, but fortunately for us this is not the case.

[Vojvoda]

Losses are 1 / 3,5-4 killed / wounded, i.e. about 20-25 killed and 000-60 wounded

[Alexander Salenko]

You don't seem to understand. We had a short time in Simferopol, when even the 6th city hospital was with the wounded, civilian doctors, not military ones, were treating, but it quickly passed.
What are you there and on the basis of what you calculate it doesn’t matter to me, your numbers do not beat reality. We in Crimea do not have calls to donate blood en masse. During covid, we had much more pressure on hospitals.

[Frank Muller]

We will talk about the exact losses after the end of the NWO, which will end, apparently, not tomorrow (if suddenly the next "Minsk" does not happen). Naturally, I do not have accurate information, but I am inclined to believe that the Ukrainian losses are not 100 thousand dead, and not 13 thousand "lost". Most likely, they are somewhere closer to the arithmetic mean of these figures. Although the first number looks more attractive to everyone. For the Russian command - as evidence of the success of the RF Armed Forces. For the Ukrainian authorities - as a basis for demanding new military supplies necessary in the fight against a ruthless and skillful aggressor: they say, how many of our people died, the same will happen to you if you don’t help! For foreign sponsors of Ukraine - as a pretext to continue financial assistance, while intriguing the provided funds in their own interests.

[Alexander Salenko]

There is one thing, but Shoigu announced not at all exorbitant figures, therefore there is trust in him in this matter.

[Battle Toads]

Quote: Ohsetin

In how many months / years will our real ones be voiced?

After graduating from SVO

[single-n]

And after the statute of limitations, it's about 50 years. Unless, of course, the boat capsizes.

[fuel oil]

The general of the army and at the same time the minister of defense could not speak on this topic. It is much closer and more important for Russians to know that the strategic forces from the nuclear triad are reliably covered by air defense, Russian cities are not fired upon, airfields are intact, oil reservoirs are not burning, there are no "sudden" pops, mobilized are dressed, shod and equipped with the latest military equipment and equipment, the troops are in abundance and in the presence of UAVs of various types and purposes, and much more ... And the corpses of our enemies, let the enemies themselves count.

[Bomb]

mobilized dressed, shod and equipped with the latest military equipment and equipment, the troops are in abundance and in the presence of UAVs of various types and purposes, and much more

this information does not interest them. When relatives contact the Moscow Region, they are sent directly to volunteers. As they say in the movies, everything has already been stolen before us .......

[To state]

The main dill arrived in Slavyansk - it is 50 km from the front line. The Nazi timed his visit to the day of the dill “slaughtered syl.” But ours doesn’t care ....

[Alexander Salenko]

The main dill with the main role, he is filming the series, ours have nothing to do with his filming, which is completely logical. It would be much better if cultural figures went there en masse to support the fighters.

[Brylevsky]

It would be better if he revealed our scale of losses ...

[Alexander Salenko]

How many officers and generals did Putin ruin the war in Ukraine?

Here the staging itself is wrong and you claim that you are not a victim of propaganda? For starters, it was not Putin who ruined it, and it was not even formally that he started the war in Ukraine. I'm not talking about numbers here, although they are unreliable. the question is your misconception about the essence of the conflict. The war has actually been going on there for almost 9 years.
And now be careful, after the disaster near Debaltseve, Ukraine was forced to accept the Minsk agreements. Nobody liked them, but this is an agreement on the joint coexistence of the republics and Ukraine. The Treaty of the Republic was imposed by military means. They earned their right to exist on the battlefield. For example, you, the Bulgarians, could not do this.
I don’t argue about resilience and I know about uprisings, but the fact remains, there is an agreement and it is between 6 subjects: LNR, DNR, Ukraine, Germany, France and Russia.
And now President Zelensky declares that the Minsk agreements, which were never implemented, are outdated, you are aware that this is a desire to revise the terms of the previous conflict. which, by the way, did not actually end?
Then Zelensky says that it would not be bad for Ukraine to get nuclear weapons. You don't have enough reason to go to war?
Then Russia recognizes the republics as independent states and their shelling begins, in fact, the republics at that time are our allies. And even the Armed Forces of Ukraine began active hostilities by sending two DRGs against the DPR.

kogato minister for the selection of Sergei Shoigu declare that in 5397 the Russians of the warrior sa died in the war. But it is much lower than the Western ratings.

Everyone has always officially underestimated the losses, and overestimated the enemy, and Shoigu is no exception. But the figure of 160 generals and colonels is also fantastic. So, our losses are unknown, neither to us nor to the West, so any figures are estimates, but according to the colonels, there are not so many of them in the army, and one could list, not here, but give a link. And the losses among the officers in general indicate that they are sitting in place and not in the rear.

In contrast, General Mark Mili, the general on the Unity of the Shchati, assumed early this month, when the Rusnatsites were driven away from Kherson, che strong on Moscow and Kyiv, they suffered over 100 victims from the beginning of the war.

Once again, these are all invasion forces almost at full strength. Mark Milli, this is a talking head, what they say to him, he voices.
For example, in Crimea, there were also rumors about exaggerated losses, for example, they said that a regiment of the Sevastopol National Guard was destroyed on the march. It turned out that no, the losses were but not so catastrophic, otherwise what you are saying after Milli is nothing more than propaganda.

There is a lot of suffering, "kaza Mili, which is estimated that about 40 Ukrainian civilians have ruined the belly of this country, which is another 000 to 15 million people resettled.

40 thousand civilians? Breshet, I wanted to say another Russian word. Of course, there are civilian losses on their part, I have a lot of acquaintances in Ukraine and relatives. Well, for example, a rocket somehow flew into a residential building in Odessa, they didn’t show it here, but how many could it objectively kill? And then she flew in to see due to the fact that Ukrainian air defense grounded her.
But the fact that all sorts of idiots were given machine guns at the beginning of the operation in the same Kyiv, so my sister personally saw those shot in cars, is this our fault? Did we give anyone machine guns?
As for the Ukrainians who left the war, have you personally seen how many fled from the Donbass? Our Crimean schools have been full of refugee children for almost 9 years now. I personally worked with Donetsk children in the summer of 2014, organized rides around the Crimea for them to go and unwind. But you stubbornly did not want to notice it.
You also did not notice the Crimean crisis, we did not have a famine, as the Ukrainian media assured, instead of Kherson potatoes, Kursk potatoes conditionally appeared. Shutting off water, no one refused to pay for it, this is a blow to agriculture, so the main population of Crimea drinks their own water. But the power outage was a terrible blow.
So we didn’t have a war in Crimea, but what did they experience in the Donbass? Now the war has come to the whole of Ukraine, why are you surprised?

Ascertaining the amazing appearance with an independently investigated, published minalata week from BBC Russia and the Russian publisher Mediazona, for some reason, the smarts for about 9311 Russian warriors are based on the improvement of the source, which will put the eminent on zaginalite - 1449 from which, assuming that the Russians are officers.

So we have a lot of officers in percentage terms. Only now mobilized to the front began to arrive, and this is how officers and contractors fought. Conscripts, of course, were also noticed, and the desire of the same brigade commander to use it all, and not in a cropped form, was understandable, but the launch of conscripts for the war was quickly broken.

It’s difficult to jointly investigate to establish what is wrong with the choice of the visshi officers sa vanished for two months from the war on Putin - the Russian army suffered especially badly for the sake of communications and logistics.

The reason, of course, is this, but there the CBO was thought differently. Understand, I myself was a citizen of Ukraine for 22 years and did not expect such stubborn resistance, which is worse, first of all, for the Ukrainians themselves. It would have been easier for them to surrender, Russia has no such conditions that are associated with robbery, but the leadership had to be demolished and it will be demolished.
And what you don’t understand is that we have, in fact, a Civil War, a lot of people have relatives on both sides, I am silent about friends and acquaintances.
But since they bit the bit, then on our side, too, and we need to win, we have everything for this.

[Alexander Salenko]

Your comment is not small, but I have to explain. Do not prove something to you as an interlocutor, do not argue for the sake of an argument, but tell how it looks from our side and I did it in the two previous comments. But now let's touch on the national problem. The one that your media won't tell you about.
Russians and Ukrainians are essentially one big people, Ukrainians have their own culture and believe me, as a Ukrainian, I speak their language. they also speak about the same in the Kuban, but there are definitely Russian people there. Therefore, the concepts of Russian and Ukrainian, well, of such a character. Well, let's say we have Ukrainians in Crimea, about a third, but these are Russian Ukrainians, and blood is mixed like you, Bulgarians. So that you understand, my mother is Russian, my father is Ukrainian. and the wife, on the contrary, who are our children? Of course Russian Ukrainian origin.
What grew up in Ukraine for the majority of Ukrainians is initially hostile, those who are on the other side, I want to ask a question, where was your grandfather or great-grandfather in the Second World War? You, Bulgarians, were then on the other side of the barricades and this is not entirely clear to you, but when the Second World War is called WWII on our territory, it infuriates me, because that war is both the Great and Patriotic. Ours came to kill, I am a descendant of those who then managed to survive, this is much worse than the Turkish yoke, although in time and shorter.
Both from my point of view and from the point of view of most of my citizens on the other side, those who could not win in 1945. This is very important for understanding psychology. These Nazis in Ukraine are mankurts for us, or Ivans who do not remember kinship.
You would be asked to give up your grandfather, great-grandfather, how would you answer?

[Vojvoda]

Russia liberated Bulgaria from the Ottoman Empire, not because it cared very much about the Bulgarians, but because it wanted to capture the straits. Russia and the USSR have always supported the Serbs against the Bulgarians and thus have always been against Bulgarian interests. We have the same problem with the North Macedonians. There is no such nation as the Macedonians. These are Bulgarians, and many of us come from Macedonian lands. But because of the policy of the USSR and the formation of Yugoslavia, we now have the worst enemies in the face of the Macedonians, supported by Serbian propaganda. Serbs are to Bulgarians what Poles are to Russians. So I perfectly understand the situation with the Ukrainians. They hate the Russians like the Macedonians hate the Bulgarians. They steal great personalities and history alike, but that's the way it is. There is no way back. Ukraine is becoming a major American protectorate in Europe, which will prevent the supply of cheap Russian resources to the EU. So this is not good either for Russia or for the EU. We have a vested interest in the United States being defeated in Ukraine and weakening control over governments in Europe. But the way Russia operates in this NWO is very disappointing.

[Alexander Salenko]

Russia liberated Bulgaria from the Ottoman Empire, not because it cared a lot about the Bulgarians, but because it wanted to capture the straits.

The straits are still a problem for us. but we are not at war with the Bulgarians, are we? And we have a number of Bulgarian settlements in the Crimea, maybe your ancestors fled from the Ottoman yoke and where? Yes, yes, to Russia, my friend. I do not think that now the Bulgarians owe us a coffin of life, although during the Liberation in this very coffin we laid 200 thousand souls of my compatriots. Perhaps for this we have the right to demand some kind of gratitude?

Russia and the USSR have always supported the Serbs against the Bulgarians and thus have always been against Bulgarian interests.

This is a separate story, but about the USSR, do you even know what kind of saying we used to go? A chicken is not a bird - Bulgaria is not a foreign country and they called you the 16th republic, but they never made you a colony, right? And I answered you by reading in Bulgarian, I don’t know the language, but I understand approximately what is written. I had two copies of Doug's magazine in my Childhood, you know. comics are in bulgarian? Leafed, watched, read. I remember a phrase that I couldn’t translate like that: Dagizgazim in advance, something like that, everything is clear with the first word, but not so much with the second. But the essence of your post was clear to me.
Now, about the Serbs and against the Bulgarians, it’s you and the Serbs who cannot agree, like little boys are measured by famous personal belongings. You have the first Bulgarian kingdom in your head, and they have the power of Stefan Dushan.
Do you agree with each other why we should support you in your graters? Now look, through the prism of your perception of the conflict between Serbs and Bulgarians, you look at the events in Ukraine. It's a big mistake, it's not the same thing. Ukraine is an integral part of the Russian world, if you don’t take my word for it, read Brzezinski’s “The Grand Chessboard”. He directly writes there that Ukraine needs to be torn away from Russia, tell me, if you please, the American Pole needs it, but what about Ukraine itself?
I repeat once again, I myself am a Ukrainian, you see my first and last name, which was given to me by my Ukrainian great-grandfather, who served in the royal guard. I, as a Ukrainian, can generally tear myself away from Russia, and, most importantly, why?
You and the Serbs have nothing similar in the conflict, besides one and the other are Slav brothers, well, we have historical disputes with the Poles and the Poles still have a headache from the fact that there was a power from Mozh to Mozh, they are already in the Kremlin sat and they were kicked out of there in the same arrogant military way that they got there. The historical dispute between the Russians and the Poles is more like your conflict with the Serbs.
And the showdown in Ukraine is our internal conflict with the active intervention of the West, if it weren’t for the last one. the conflict is long over. For example, my friend has a high officer rank in the Armed Forces of Ukraine, I don’t know what rank he has, but it’s definitely a lieutenant colonel, he is my fellow countryman, we grew up in the same city, my wife’s parents communicated with his parents and this is a tragedy for me. By the way, this officer served in Yugoslavia not far from you.
My son-in-law may be drafted, although he is a sickly person, but they may not be asked, my wife has an uncle and great-uncle in the territorial defense of Ukraine and her brother, when asked for volunteers, said: I will not shoot my uncle. In your conflict with the Serbs, this is not even close, you understand?
You can’t make Serbs Bulgarians, and you don’t try, and Serbs you, respectively. You can communicate with each other like I do with you or with a Pole, but you have no relatives on the other side, but I have them.

We have the same problem with the North Macedonians. There is no such nation as the Macedonians. These are Bulgarians, and many of us come from Macedonian lands. But because of the policy of the USSR and the formation of Yugoslavia, we now have the worst enemies in the person of the Macedonians,

Well, if they recognize themselves as Macedonians, then they are. We, as Eastern Slavs, were also united, and we once spoke the same language with all the Slavs, and the Bulgarian calmly understood the inhabitant of Novgorod. Personally, I am against some kind of Macedonia, what can it do on its own? Well, let there be a nationality, why separate?

Serbs are to Bulgarians what Poles are to Russians.

See how I guessed with examples? No wonder I was a little interested in the history of Bulgaria.

They hate the Russians like the Macedonians hate the Bulgarians.

My friend, I do not know your graters with the Macedonians, but the war in Ukraine is not an ethnic conflict. For example, a lot of Ukrainians are fighting in the People's Militia of Donbass, the late head of the DPR Zakharchenko is Ukrainian, and on the other side there are Russians. Again, the example of Danilov, this is a Russian surname and his mother lives in Lugansk and his aunt in St. Petersburg. Zelensky, I don’t know how he is connected with Russia through relatives, but he left KVN, do you watch such a program? And I'm not looking but someone is watching, he wouldn't make a lot of money without Russia.
On the other hand, I somehow drove our Crimean women, I wanted to write aunts, but it’s clearer to you and they sang songs, including Ukrainian ones, and this was either in 15 or 16. How often do your women sing Serbian songs and Serbian women sing Bulgarian songs?

But the way Russia operates in this NWO is very disappointing.

It's not just you, I have questions myself. How long will we calve? The longer this all drags on, the more joint blood is shed. But there will definitely not be a blitzkrieg.
As for resources, your stupid government dried up the gas pipeline to Bulgaria, you had to negotiate with the Turks. won't you say why? I may have expressed myself incorrectly, otherwise I sometimes insert squishy forms, under pressure from the United States, they refused to build the Bulgarian Stream, this is a direct question to your authorities, why did they do such an idiotic act not in the interests of the Bulgarians, but in their own American interests? I wonder if there are independent politicians in the EU besides Orban? He is a Nazi, I do not flatter myself about him, but for the Hungarians he is pursuing a balanced policy.

[Battle Toads]

Quote: Brylevsky

It would be better if he revealed our scale of losses ...

What will this number give you?

[Battle Toads]

Quote: Voyvoda

Unlike you, I have access to much more information than you see on Russian TV...

Hardly. And about the TV set - give at least a remote control from it

[single-n]

What strange Ukrainians. Losses of 10 thousand per month, and they already have another, (by the way, what?) Wave of mobilization. 100 thousand for 40 million countries. I really don't know. It is obvious that the Ukrainian soldiers are about to end. We have a different matter. Already 300 thousand were collected from 140 million people. And we have some small percentages there. But in Ukraine, after the loss of about 100 thousand, the soldiers will undoubtedly run out. Soon, probably, pensioners with children will be in the trenches.
Here is proof, unbelievers, of the effectiveness of grinding the APU. How many more months and the victory will be won.
I really don’t know what the number of APU is there. It seems like the figure of 1 million flashed.
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[Kriso Sborshik]

x-men are not born with a bastard, but we have been hearing about "they are about to run" for all 8 months. They have plenty of meat, for every one who goes to Bandera they will call for two more.

[Alexander Salenko]

But is this such a figure, 1 million in general or at the front? If it were at the front, they would have continued to push through our defenses. And so someone sticks out on the border with the Republic of Belarus, someone guards various objects, someone serves in aviation and, it’s a sin to say, in the naval forces.

[single-n]

I do not know. The Ukrainians somehow did not explain this issue. But there have already been several waves of mobilization + mercenaries + volunteers. Question: "Where are these people?" Ours reported for 100 thousand. Triple for just in case. 300 thousand. The population is about 40 million. The mobile reserve, if we count as we have (20 million out of 140 million), then 14% of the population. 5,6 million. Let's assume that half of this number fled / completely unusable / they have a reservation. A total of at least 2,5 million. Do you think that a loss of a maximum of 12% (and if you rely on Shoigu's statements, then generally 4%) is a complete rout? That's right, all the people have run out and it's time to tick from the farm? Moreover, these are not instantaneous losses, but stretched out for almost a year. Of course, I'm not even close to a strategist, but somehow the results in terms of "grinding" ......
Just for example. In 1941, the Reich Armed Forces lost about 800 thousand out of about 7-8 million on the eastern front. These are sailors and flyers and the SS, and even a reserve army. It's 10%. Do you know the end date of the war?

[Alexander Salenko]

Dmitry and you do not compare with the Reich. and about 40 million, to put it mildly, you are mistaken. There is not so much

[single-n]

1. And with whom to compare? Maybe with Kutuzov? He destroyed 600 thousand in half a year. You can still with Samsonov and his enchanting fiasco. but we now have from RI arr. 1913 make a shrine. And this is blasphemy.
2. I took data from Ukrainian official sources (State Statistics Service of Ukraine). Their servers are currently unavailable. I do not know why. Morzhet request from the Russian Federation is blocked, maybe they are not up to it. How much it corresponds to reality is difficult to say. Our Rosstat also does not have much faith.
If there is other official information, then pzhl. link

[Alexander Salenko]

but we now have from RI arr. 1913 make a shrine. And this is blasphemy.

I'm not even going to argue with this, I agree. The question is that there are no 40 million people in Ukraine.

2. I took data from Ukrainian official sources.

Is Crimea not included in these sources? Donbass is definitely included and not to count their inhabitants would be a crime from their point of view.

If there is other official information, then pzhl. link

This is of course an argument, but you know, it is customary for us historians to check the source for authenticity. For example, in the nepotism era there was such an advertisement: you are not alone, there are 52 million of us, Ukraine, with the Crimea in its composition, did not reach these indicators. According to the census, Timoshenko was almost 47. Crimea has fallen off since then, Donbass, and this is 2,5 million in the first region, and 5 million in the second, if memory serves, if not more. Already your figure of 40 million is not beating.
And it's one thing to count by registration, and another thing by actually finding the addressee. For example, I have one registration, and another place of residence. But with me it is within the same city and how many left to work? It's winter now, they may come, or they may not come. We have a lot of refugee cars in Simferopol, only in my yard there are two of them with Zaporozhye numbers, and these numbers are not uncommon to meet, I am silent for Kherson. And so you can even meet Kharkiv numbers as well as Kyiv, Dnepropetrovsk ones, once he saw the Lviv number.
Ukraine is smaller than Russia and therefore it is much easier to understand the numbers. And you pay attention to them because they are not Russian, well, let's say, you can also see Kazakh, Abkhaz license plates, we have enough of them and I understand that a car was just bought there. And with Ukrainian numbers, including Donetsk and Lugansk, we have a lot of people. It wasn't, and here they are.
I went to Belgorod, there is the same picture, but if we have Kherson numbers going off scale, then Kharkov numbers are there. And when you realize that these cars did not exist and suddenly appeared in bulk, then you can draw some conclusions, at least according to a rough estimate.
We go further, when we announced mobilization, then the Crimean Tatars. who, for the most part, sympathize with Ukraine, abruptly ran with their families in all directions. Since they were in the markets and transport, it was immediately noticeable, everything was closed, I could not order a bus, my earnings were disrupted.
I’ll tell you this, since I lived in this Ukraine, I can say that many people made a living by earning money, on our southern coast, if not a Moldavian at a construction site, then a Ukrainian, not a Ukrainian, well, that means brothers from Central Asia. They are registered there, but when a person does not live in a house for several months, then where does he live?
You obviously don’t understand, because you yourself are not directly familiar with such a problem, what labor migration is, and it even exists inside Russia Or, for example, my friend comes from the LPR, has been living in Moscow for almost 9 years, so tell me where she lives ?

[single-n]

I took data for 21 years from the Ukrainian stat. There, neither Crimea nor the Donbass were taken into account.

According to the report "Assessment of the actual population of Ukraine", published on January 23, 2020 in the telegram channel of the Minister of the Cabinet of Ministers of Ukraine Dmytro Dubilet, the actual number of the actual population living in Ukraine as of December 1, 2019, excluding Crimea and certain regions of Donetsk and Lugansk regions, amounted to 37 million 289 thousand people

here is a link to this report in a telegram (you can download it now.)
"Assessment of the apparent population of Ukraine. Dubilet @ Telegram"

As you can see, at the beginning of 2019 there were almost 8 million men of military age. Excluding LDNR and Crimea. I assumed that about a quarter could actually be called upon. 2 million. This is without taking into account the conscription of women and people over 55 and under 24 years old. And that's at least a few hundred thousand more.
Plus foreign aid. Both mercenaries and various volunteers and advisers. So recruiting 1 million to the active army and having several hundred thousand in reserve is quite within the power of the Armed Forces of Ukraine. Even if we assume that 1 million is all that the APU has. That loss of 10% is not something that will lead to their immediate surrender. Moreover, with motivation they are all the way. At this rate, CBO can last for years.

[Boris Sergeev]

For some reason, the losses of the Armed Forces of Ukraine do not prevent them from attacking Russia's strategic airfields. And it would be better if the minister explained this fact. Even better, as an ex-minister.

[fa2998]

Quote: Vladimir_2U

Yes, even a billion, our losses are more important!

Quote: Vladimir_2U

Yes, even a billion, our losses are more important!

Quote: Vladimir_2U

Yes, even a billion, our losses are more important!

Yes, it just so happened - the losses of the Armed Forces of Ukraine are reported by the state Shoigu, and our losses are voiced by the representative of Kyiv. It all depends on the minister's imagination!

[Ivanov IV]

Losses of the APU .....
Yes, it doesn’t matter how many times, where, and which of the boxers hit.
It is important who LIES in the ring!
Maybe Shoigu will be next, in a pair, with Konoshenko, will they conduct Novosti?
And what? Two brave generals, order bearers !!!
Where did Psahi and Karine Jean-Pierre get to !!!!!

[Vasily Krylov]

At the same time, a feeling of satisfaction and regret. Against the backdrop of an attack on military airfields, the question is, where are our vaunted air defenses with their S400 and others. Who will be responsible for this? Sergey Kuzhugetovich, Vladimir Vladimirovich I have a question for you. Sincerely, Krylov.

[gromit]

Opened and opened, he knows better.

Someone better explain to me what kind of nonsense is in each article with a constant indication that Bakhmut is Artemovsk, which Ukrainians call Bakhmut ???

It seems to have been founded by Russians and has been called Bakhmut since the 17th century.
Well, of course, the revolution was renamed Artyomovsk. And in the year 16 back to Bakhmut.

What kind of idiocy? What are we fighting for?
For the glorious Soviet past? Well then, I wish to celebrate November 7th in Leningrad, and not November 4th in St. Petersburg.

Youth stupid, depraved does not understand what is happening?
Yes, not only she does not understand such a puzzle.
Sitting up, call the Russian city by the Soviet name and immediately cover up the red flags of the Dnrovites on TV.

Our new ideology - schizophrenia?

[Alexander Salenko]

But Artyomovsk has not been renamed to Bakhmut, bullshit, all this with renaming is so accepted in the world that if you rename something, then you publish all international reference books at your own expense, if there is a railway station, then, an airport. The very fact of renaming the roads, this is the same registration as one will pull.
In Crimea, in 1945, many settlements were renamed and, for example, the city of Inkerman was renamed Belokamensk, but the railway station was still called Inkerman.
By Artyomovsk. no one knows the Bakhmut name for champagne. As no one knows either Tsaritsyn or Volgograd, but everyone knows Stalingrad.

[gromit]

Here I open a map in Yandex. Without any vpn, our own sovereign cheburnet.
And there Bakhmut and Bakhmutovsky district.

Check it yourself.

I actually thought that on TV they were talking about 2 different cities.
On TV, too, one is Bakhmut, the other is Artemovsk.
So it seems that there are a lot of events and everything is in full swing.

I would generally forbid renaming anything.
If you want to perpetuate something, build a new one. City, street, ship there.

[Alexander Salenko]

It's hard to disagree with the latter, but in Google all you just need to enter a line .. And put a residence permit in your passports. My daughter recently received a passport, we are doing a registration, and there the office asked why mom and dad are registered in different places (why does this bother you?) and whether dad is against my daughter being registered. Well, now imagine a legal hitch on the scale of the entire and not the smallest country?
And legal addresses. for example, having access to the international market? This may not be a large company, for example, it sells tour packages to Turkey.
Renaming a street is a global smut, but renaming a not-so-small city is a doubly smut.

[gromit]

What are you telling me?)

There was Peterhof and there was Petersburg, and Ingermanland surrounded all this.

But the Ingermanland province did not sound and became the St. Petersburg province, and in 1927 - the Leningrad region.

In 1914, in the frenzy of jingoistic patriotism, St. Petersburg was renamed Petrograd. At 24 in Leningrad.

In 1944, against the background of the struggle against Germanization, Peterhof became Petrodvorets. But the Peterhof station was not renamed.

Against the background of the "new Russia" and the tricolor, they decided to return everything to the backside, but according to tradition, through this very backside.

As a result - I live in the municipality of Peterhof, Petrodvortsovy district, St. Petersburg.
And all this is surrounded by the Leningrad region.

[Alexander Salenko]

What are you telling me?)

Well, when Igria ceased to be Ingria, the rules were not so harsh. But for example, a ship called Ingemanladia was in Peter's fleet. When your beautiful city was renamed to St. Petersburg, there were no such problems there either, I have a military flask with the inscription Petrograd. And later it all became important., but where to go? I gave you an example of Inkerman, do you want to challenge it? Well, go ahead.

[gromit]

I will not argue.
This is all just as an example of a mess, a hodgepodge and momentary shyness.

They put in place monuments to Lenin, other attributes of the Union. They call Bakhmut Artyomovsky, but even in their own Russian maps they mark it as Bakhmut.

And in another part of the country, pre-revolutionary names are added to communist street names.
And it is no longer very clear what is happening and where we are going.

And yes, Ingria is so harsh that for mentioning its existence in a positive way, you can get a term for separatism)

[Alexander Salenko]

Yes, I'm not arguing with you, but talking., In Simferopol, for example, Rosa Luxembourg Street has again become Alexander Nevsky. Both characters are not related to the history of Crimea, but one is directly related to national history, although Rosa also became a household name during the time that the street bore her name. To please a rose, it’s with us to get into a fool, there is a mental hospital.
Or in Alushta there was a Working Corner, it remained that way for me, I rested a lot there, now the Professor's Corner was called that before the revolution, but there are no problems here.
And for example, Tsaritsyn on the Tsaritsa River, but the name is distorted from Sary-Su, yellow water, we have more than one river in the Crimea with the same name, I know two, maybe there are more. Such a reversal is a common thing, like our Kara-Su, became Karasevka, it doesn’t matter that crucian carp were never born there, the name means black water.
This may be a personal feeling, but for example, Lugansk is not Voroshilovgrad for me, although when I was born it was called that and Donetsk is not perceived as Stalino. And Stalingrad comes.

[Horon]

Defense Minister Shoigu revealed the scale of the losses of the Armed Forces of Ukraine in November

Is this interesting to anyone? There is such a thing - the result. The result is evaluated by the goal, how much our actions have brought us closer to the goal or we have already achieved them. All these enumerations of "enemy losses" without a target mean nothing. If the goal is to destroy all the dill, then you need to know how many of them are still left and how close we are to the goal, but completely destroying the dill is not our goal. Then why these meaningless enumerations? Dill propaganda said that the Russians would come to take land in Russia, Putin denied these claims, but held referendums and only confirmed the main message of dill propaganda. Dill with maniacal persistence are now fighting the "invader of their land", and our officials are trying to prove to them that the Kyiv regime is to blame for their death. We ourselves made it possible to use patriotic feelings for suicide!

[Boris Sergeev]

Actually, these lands are Russian. Like most of the people who live there. Putin gave reason to doubt the slogan: "Russia is here forever." Hence the result.

[Horon]

Actually, these lands are Russian.

Here is more details! If these lands are Russian, then on what basis? What documents? What then is considered legal, what is not legal. Why hold a referendum if they are Russian anyway? What to do with the people who ended up on these lands? How to evaluate their actions?
Historically, these lands belonged to the Russian Empire, but were transferred to the creation of the Ukrainian SSR during the communist rule. If we are claiming ri heritage, then many of the documents related to the reorganization of the territorial allegiance will have to be declared illegal? But there we will squabble with all the neighbors with a deplorable result for us. If the legacy of the USSR, then we must recognize all changes after the 91st year as illegal, and this is practically a challenge to our elite!
If we want to annex these territories on the basis of a strong one, then again an ambush, until the victim recognized our superiority, it’s too early to talk about belonging to the territories, then again the question is why referendums were held? And if we believe that people in those territories themselves want to live with us in the same state, then we must first demolish the regime itself and only by weakening the army send troops and, in silence, find out from the local population its opinion through a referendum. And here the stated goals constantly do not coincide with the chosen actions.

[fa2998]

The Ministry of Defense of Ukraine and Russia have found a fascinating pastime for themselves .. Every day, week, month, and since the beginning of the operation, the numbers of enemy losses have been voiced. They destroyed 143 tanks or only 3 inhabitants, not a journalist will not get into the combat zone. The skeletons of the equipment are almost the same - the Soviet tank school.

[iouris]

For some reason it seems to me that this is not a question of the Minister of Defense. The Minister of Defense must provide defense. Von der Leyen has already reported everything.

[fa2998]

Quote: dmi.pris

They won’t say about the number of our dead now. Only after the war ...

And after the war they won't tell! After the Second World War, how many figures of losses were CARDINALLY different. 6-7 million, 8 million, 20 million, 27 million, even 46 million came across. It is still unknown, 80 years. There are only analytical calculations of different authors. So for that war, secrecy is removed. And this war is SECRET. Here is the image of power!

[VladimirNET]

8300 /2 /30 = 138 per day (irreplaceable losses).

If we assume that - the advantage will be achieved only with irreparable losses of 100 thousand, the calculations are as follows:
100 / 000.(138) = 3 days (that's 723 years - without 2 days).

Therefore, Vladlen Tatarsky said that in this way (by reducing their numbers) - the NWO will not be completed quickly.

[VladimirNET]

Quote: bk316

100 irretrievable (killed and crippled)
about 3-4 times more wounded - 350000 wounded

I have already been corrected, and the information (from sources) was confirmed:
we have losses 1:8, 1:9, and Ukraine has 1:2
so (total) Ukraine (with the wounded): 200 losses.

The fact is that only 5% of the losses are from bullets, so the ratio of 10:35 does not work here.

[VladimirNET]

Quote: Zakirov Damir

1. 8.6 thousand - these are the recorded losses of manpower from drones and according to reports of troops on the line of contact, which corresponds to 300 people per day

No, these are losses with the wounded (for Ukraine it is 1:2), irreplaceable losses 8300/2 = (4150 in November) = (138 per day).

2. And "besides this, 5 aircraft, 10 helicopters, 149 tanks and 300 armored personnel carriers were destroyed" ... They are exclusively unmanned - they drove themselves, fired themselves, disposed of themselves!

Here, the losses with the wounded amounted to approximately:
5*1 + 10*3 + 149*3 +300*3 = 1382 (minus those not affected).

PS. If the tank was knocked out, then the crew could remain intact.

3. During strikes on rear depots, barracks, training grounds, hangars with military equipment and railway stations throughout Ukraine, data on casualties were also immediately received by Shoigu from Zaluzhny. How else?

I think - the assessment is made on the basis of intelligence data (including according to objective control data - before and after the strike).

I understand that we are at war with the fraternal people and it is undesirable to embitter this fraternal people with heavy losses against the Russian army

All wrong:
we are at war with the army - a foreign (for us) country - according to their ideology alien to us (Nazism). If a person takes up arms - and fights against us and does not surrender - this is an enemy that needs to be destroyed (no other way, this is war).

[VladimirNET]

Quote: Zaurbek

If 8700 were killed in November ....

8,3 thousand. When they say "losses" - this is along with the wounded (in Ukraine, their ratio is 1: 2).
100 are irretrievable losses (including severe injuries in which it is impossible to fight further).

[nikniknik]

and how many of our military and civilians died? how many more will die? (The Armed Forces of Ukraine are hammering and hammering Donbass, Luhansk, Zaporozhye, Kherson, Kharkov Kursk, Belgorod, Bryansk, Voronezh, Saratov, Ryazan regions. Crimea was attacked again. Where did all these weapons, planes and tanks come out like cockroaches from Ukraine? not from deliveries by railroad tracks to the very line of contact? Why are we not hammering at the railroad infrastructure? The State Department again decides to supply tanks and aircraft to Ukraine. And how did these UAVs fly over 600 km that they didn’t notice? Will the Ministry of Defense notice when they fly to the Kremlin? They are crazy and they can do such a thing. Why was there a massive strike yesterday, today on the territory of Ukraine, but Kyiv was not touched? Where are our strikes on the PU of Ukraine?

[VladimirNET]

Quote from Carlos Sala

Stalin would have already shot those military leaders who made it possible to capture a significant number of tanks and armored vehicles intact.

Under the raisins - we left them ~ 15 tanks (including the T-90 there was a video) and the same number of self-propelled guns. On purpose - no one leaves them (this is war).
At the same time, we knock out up to 30 tanks and other armored vehicles per day ...

It is useless for Russia to destroy 100 Ukrainian tanks if the Ukrainian army then captures the same number of whole Russian ones.

See above.
In addition, when (in the beginning) they attacked with small forces - failed tanks and other equipment - they simply left behind: it is more expensive to guard them (and if the guards die, then you will not return people).

[Marson35]

And what do we care about Ukrainian losses??? Especially the residents of our border areas...

[Alf]

The losses of the armed forces of Ukraine in November 2022 exceeded 8,3 thousand military personnel. This was stated by the Minister of Defense of the Russian Federation, General of the Army Sergei Shoigu.

What about OUR losses? Don't want to say?

[Olezhek]

You are asking the wrong questions.
Untimely.

[Alf]

Quote: Olezhek

You are asking the wrong questions.
Untimely.

The stump is clear, the topic is secret, not khukhra-mukhra ... The "hat" from this topic will be removed in 70 years, and maybe in all 100, but the full-time guard-licker has already noted ....

[Veter5757]

Gaps or write more, why should their infidels feel sorry for them!
I would like to hear from Shoigu data on the civilian casualties of Donbass, Kharkiv, Kherson, Zaporozhye - those who died in 2022 as a result of the war and the estimated losses of destroyed property of both enterprises and individuals who are not compensated by anyone as a result of Ukrainian fire in Donetsk .