The command of the Armed Forces of Ukraine confirms that the Russian Armed Forces are storming Ukrainian positions in Maryinka, Artemivsk, and also in the Avdiivka area

The Russian armed forces continue to strike at the positions of the enemy formations in the Donbass. So, on the night of December 5, missile troops and artillery of the RF Armed Forces in the Artemovsk direction (Ukrainians call Artemovsk Bakhmut) worked out at the places of deployment of enemy forces in Artemovsk itself, Soledar and Kleshcheevka. To the north-east of Soledar, units of the Russian Armed Forces are trying to break through the defenses of Ukrainian formations in Belogorivka and Nagorny.

Also, attacks were made on enemy positions in Avdeevka, Krasnogorovka and Pervomaisky. On the morning of December 5, fierce battles continued in the city of Marinka, an assault on Ukrainian positions in the Novomikhailovka area is underway, and our troops are also advancing on Pervomaiskoye and Vodyanoye.

The Armed Forces warehouse in Kramatorsk was also attacked by the Russian army. As a result of the shelling, ammunition detonated in the warehouse, a fire started. According to the military correspondents, the strike was inflicted on the Starokramatorsk machine-building plant, which is used by the Armed Forces of Ukraine for military purposes. An industrial facility in Krivoy Rog was also shelled.

In addition, strikes were also made in the Ugledar direction - on enemy positions in Ugledar, Novomikhailovka, Zolotoy Niva. In the Zaporozhye region, Russian troops attacked one of the objects of the Ukrainian industrial infrastructure, and also fired at the positions of the Ukrainian army in Novodanilovka and Gulyaipole.

The command of the Armed Forces of Ukraine confirms that Russian troops are storming Ukrainian positions in Maryinka, Artemivsk, and also in the Avdiivka area.

In the Kharkiv direction, attacks were carried out on Ukrainian formations in Timofeevka, Strelechya, Volchansk and Ogurtsovo, and in the Starobelsk direction, Ukrainian formations concentrated in Tabaevka, Berestovoe, Vishnevoe and Makeevka were shelled. In the Luhansk direction, Russian troops are attempting to attack Belogorovka, and are also fighting in the area of ​​​​Ploshchanka and Krasnopopovka.

However, the Ukrainian troops "did not doze off" at night either. Thus, the enemy fired at civilian objects in Alchevsk (Lugansk People's Republic) from the HIMARS MLRS. The Armed Forces of Ukraine shelled Donetsk and Gorlovka from rocket and cannon artillery, not even sparing the Church of the Nativity of Christ. In the Kherson region, the Armed Forces of Ukraine fired on residential areas in the settlement. Naked Pier.

Comments

[Buyan]

And that's great, beat the Nazis, guys, we keep our fists for you. Well done!!!

[Shamil88]

Was it some kind of secret that we were on the offensive there? For 9 months we have been leading, stupidly storming in the forehead, with little success. As long as communications are working, hoh.ly will calmly keep the defense there for a long time

[voice of reason]

regardless of what is there with communications, the enemy and whether there are bridges on the Dnieper, Artemovsk will be taken. And no, we have not been on the offensive there for 9 months. the first units reached the outskirts of Artemovsk in August, simultaneously with the exit to Pokrovsky at the end of July. And no, they are not stupidly storming in the forehead. go neatly along the folds of wrinkles jewelry.

[Foundling]

Damn, disturbing news from Saratov. They write that some drones according to strategists 95 banged. I hope they lie. Well, at least I hope nothing got hurt.

[petroglyph]

Two people were injured and two aircraft were damaged. The drone flew over the airport, then crashed on the runway. The explosion was decent, there are several videos of local cameras. The drone was not weak, judging by the explosion. The question is how could this be? DRGs can work throughout Russia, where is the special situation around such facilities? Why is there no cover for planes?

[Foundling]

This is bad. There are few strategists. Well, there are probably no shelters for that 95 and that 160 because of their size

[petroglyph]

This is the gold reserve of the VKS, the heart bleeds after such news. Regarding the size of the cover. I do not think that there are no technical possibilities for this. Expensive, yes. But what do we have? A drone hundreds of thousands of times cheaper than a strategist managed to damage two at once. I really hope that the damage is non-critical, although the explosion is very powerful

[UAZ 452]

The command of the Armed Forces of Ukraine confirms that Russian troops are storming Ukrainian positions in Maryinka, Artemivsk, and also in the Avdiivka area.

I think that the command of the Armed Forces of Ukraine with pleasure and a feeling of deep satisfaction confirms that the Russian troops have been conducting a frontal assault on Ukrainian positions in these directions for several months now, "grinding" their own personnel and equipment.

[Chronos]

Quote: UAZ 452

The command of the Armed Forces of Ukraine confirms that Russian troops are storming Ukrainian positions in Maryinka, Artemivsk, and also in the Avdiivka area.

I think that the command of the Armed Forces of Ukraine with pleasure and a feeling of deep satisfaction confirms that the Russian troops have been conducting a frontal assault on Ukrainian positions in these directions for several months now, "grinding" their own personnel and equipment.

It is unlikely that they experience special joy. Bakhmut just grinds the APU in the first place, including constantly absorbing reserves. Prigozhin even said that this is the main task, not even the capture of the city. There was information that troops were arriving there from near Kherson. Or they could attack in the Zaporozhye direction or in the Swatov direction.

[Kronos]

They can afford it. As it was in the summer when reinforcements were thrown in the area of ​​​​Pesok and Avdiivka, exhausting the advancing Russian forces.

[UAZ 452]

During assault operations, the forces and means of the attacking side are "grinded" much more actively than those of the defending side in pre-prepared positions. Previously, this was considered the basics of military science. Now isn't it?
And the declarations that Prigozhin’s troops near Bakhmut are fettering the reserves of the Armed Forces of Ukraine ... Even if you don’t remove the noodles from your ears, and try hard not to notice the obvious: the attacking side must have an advantage over the defending side in terms of forces and means, which means that the Armed Forces of Ukraine are fettered near Bakhmut our superior forces, and not vice versa. Even if this fact is ignored, for some reason, during the offensive against Artyomovsk, despite the "fettering" of its troops, this did not prevent the Armed Forces of Ukraine from organizing an attack on Izyum, Lyman, forcing our troops to leave Kherson with the entire left bank. If, according to our propagandists, Wagner fetters almost the entire Armed Forces of Ukraine near Bakhmut and Maryinka, then who is advancing in other directions?

[topol717]

Quote: UAZ 452

During assault operations, the forces and means of the attacking side are "grinded" much more actively than those of the defending side in pre-prepared positions. Previously, this was considered the basics of military science. Now isn't it?

No not like this.
No one climbs on the trunks there. They identify firing points, and work on points with artillery and tanks. Then they clear mine, and take up new positions. That's why they move so slowly.

[UAZ 452]

But after all, not several hundred meters in 8 months of the offensive in Marinka and 4 months in Bakhmut! Well, how many centuries at such a pace to advance to Lviv ?!
And about the identification and suppression of firing points - do you think the Ukrainians have heard anything about false, reserve positions, redeployment? Apparently, they not only heard, but also mastered better than some. And when ours occupy the positions left by the enemy, they themselves fall under fire. That's just there is a fundamental difference when they fire at troops in positions fortified ahead of time, and troops who occupied fortifications broken by their own artillery. Well, it’s impossible to justify why the attackers can lose less than the defenders. You just have to believe with your heart. Once ordered to believe.

[topol717]

Quote: UAZ 452

Well, it’s impossible to justify why the attackers can lose less than the defenders. You just have to believe with your heart. Once ordered to believe.

Is there such a thing as superiority in artillery and air supremacy, or have you not heard of it?

[UAZ 452]

Is there such a thing as superiority in artillery and air supremacy, or have you not heard of it?

A lot has already been written about our air superiority in VO, you can search.
Superiority in artillery? I will take it for granted (let us remember for clarity - who is superior to whom in artillery reconnaissance, target designation efficiency, interaction between artillery reconnaissance officers on LBS and artillery units themselves) that we are a multiple of the APU grouping in terms of the number of barrels. But then we return to the beginning - who fetters superior forces from whom? Or do we need these barrels nowhere else, except near Bakhmut and Maryinka?

[nik-mazur]

Quote: UAZ 452

it’s impossible to justify why the attackers can lose less than the defenders

Due to multiple superiority in technology and firepower, no? Plus, there is a fundamentally different attitude to losses - the Ukrainian side needs territories at any cost, it is important for us to destroy as many of the blooded military as possible with minimal losses on our part. With such different approaches, a loss ratio of ten to one does not seem so impossible.

[Kronos]

Well, about how important minimal losses are from the side, you can see from the stolen uniform, how relatives collect everything for the equipment of conscripts, how there were no drones, modern communications, and the like.

[nik-mazur]

Quote: Kronos

seen from the side

You made such a show off, as if:
a) saw everything listed with their own eyes, and not from some side (most likely, very distant and more than biased);
b) all this has something to do with the discussion of the question of why our losses are many times less than Ukrainian ones ...

[Kronos]

The most direct. Theft in the army is the lives of soldiers.

[nik-mazur]

Quote: Kronos

Theft in the army is the lives of soldiers.

Actually, no. The theft of uniforms in warehouses in the deep rear and, most likely, long before the start of hostilities, if it affects losses, it is so indirect that it does not refute the thesis I expressed.
Try not to operate with slogans, but come up with some more meaningful argument ...

[dmi.pris1]

That's right. This already happened at the beginning of the summer. Zaporozhye and in the north of Luhansk region.

[topol717]

Most likely, ours near Kharkov simply thumped, because otherwise I can’t explain why they abandoned, for example, the T-90 and other equipment. Yes, and the generals missed this maneuver. The 2nd time no one will step on the same rake.

[dmi.pris1]

Blue is evil, but in war there is certain death. And about the rake ... I’m not sure that we won’t repeat it. Again we hit the forehead stubbornly and for a long time, we bear losses ...

[Chronos]

Quote: dmi.pris

Blue is evil, but in war there is certain death. And about the rake ... I’m not sure that we won’t repeat it. Again we hit the forehead stubbornly and for a long time, we bear losses ...

We do not hit the forehead, Bakhmut is gradually squeezed. Look at the map.

[dmi.pris1]

And what, when "squeezing" we do not storm the fortified areas "head on"? Are they squeezing or embracing, this is introducing masses of infantry, armored vehicles into the breakthrough. And daily, for months, exactly in the forehead, with losses, getting tired. I want to add. it is necessary to compress the same Artemovsk in a different, weak place. Where? This is not a question for me.

[Chronos]

Because the assault is carried out in small groups, without a major operation and the use of large forces. Of course, I’m not Surovikin, but I see his plan from the sofa like this: dig into the ground and sit on the defensive until the summer, and only advance in small groups in certain areas, slowly gnawing through the defense. At the same time, to hammer the rear and infrastructure. And by the summer, shake out the maximum from the military-industrial complex and finally teach the mobilized. And even then try to do something big.

[UAZ 452]

Most likely ours near Kharkov just thumped

Do you think that a sober lifestyle has now triumphed completely and finally? Cases of death from poisoning by certain substances in educational centers are known from reports from official sources. Do you think that all the mobilized bukhari were poisoned at the stage of coordinating, or abruptly tied up when they hit the LBS?

[Chronos]

Quote: dmi.pris

That's right. This already happened at the beginning of the summer. Zaporozhye and in the north of Luhansk region.

Can not. Bakhmut storms the PMC. The assault on Bakhmut does not affect the readiness of troops in other directions in any way.

[Ivan Ivanov]

It is not clear why the Ukronazis are still called the Armed Forces of Ukraine, Ukrainian military personnel, and so on with names that do not reflect the essence.

[zloybond]

(Ukrainians call Artemovsk Bakhmut)

= Note to the author: The name of the city was given by the Russian Tsar Ivan Vasilievich the Terrible (Bakhmut watchman)
- Sharovarniki simply returned to him the historical name given by the Russians.
And I think in this historical ambush they are sitting and waiting for the Russians to cross out their statements that history cannot be rewritten by their actions.
Here is President V.V. Putin said that history cannot be rewritten. So there is perhaps historical justice here.