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Representative of the command of the Armed Forces of Ukraine: Russian troops use Ukrainian tactics near Bakhmut

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Representative of the command of the Armed Forces of Ukraine: Russian troops use Ukrainian tactics near Bakhmut

The speaker of the Ukrainian operational command "Vostok" Serhiy Cherevaty said that the Russian troops "changed their tactics near Bakhmut." Recall that representatives of the Kyiv regime call Bakhmut Artyomovsk.


According to Cherevaty, they (Russian troops) first tried to take the city "on the forehead", and now they are carrying out an operation to encircle it. The representative of the Ukrainian command states that the artillerymen of the Armed Forces of Ukraine are making efforts to prevent the encirclement of the city (and the group of the Armed Forces of Ukraine in Soledar may also be in this encirclement), "delivering strikes with precision-guided munitions."

Cherevaty:

Under Bakhmut, we see the situation on the battlefield online.

Also, the command of the Armed Forces of Ukraine claims that Russian troops are using "Ukrainian tactics" in the Artyomovsk (Bakhmut) area. It consists in the involvement of small groups of high mobility, which are able to break through the defense in separate areas. Such mobile groups are also capable of literally appearing in the enemy's trenches and taking positions under their control in close combat, bringing confusion to the enemy's ranks.
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  1. svp67
    svp67 4 December 2022 17: 27
    +23
    It consists in the involvement of small groups of high mobility, which are able to break through the defense in separate areas.
    Well, well ... but he thinks that in Africa "musicians" are fighting with armies and fronts ... Where this tactic has long been used is there
    1. Cap.nemo58rus
      Cap.nemo58rus 4 December 2022 17: 46
      +8
      + Ha Ha... Discovered America. He wants to teach the special forces, who have been fighting since the late seventies, almost without a break, tactics.
      1. seregatara1969
        seregatara1969 4 December 2022 18: 23
        +12
        And why can't Russian soldiers change tactics then? Who banned it? Whoever knocked someone harder is right! The Law of Chess!
        1. ABC-schutze
          ABC-schutze 4 December 2022 19: 19
          +13
          In fact, in small, mobile, reinforced assault groups, the grandfathers of the Russians already fought in Berlin and Budapest. If not in Stalingrad ...
          1. Cap.nemo58rus
            Cap.nemo58rus 4 December 2022 21: 26
            +2
            But who is arguing? The roots of the tactics of modern specialists grow from there. SMERSH remember...
          2. Plate
            Plate 4 December 2022 23: 07
            +4
            We dig even further. The trenches of the First World War - assault groups.
      2. January
        January 4 December 2022 21: 09
        0
        Quote: Cap.Nemo58rus
        + Ha Ha... Discovered America. He wants to teach the special forces, who have been fighting since the late seventies, almost without a break, tactics.

        Doesn't want to. He simply announces that this tactic is "Ukrainian".
        It's like with compote in the kindergarten - whoever spat into the glass first - that and compote. Well, or with borscht ... yes
    2. Anna E
      Anna E 4 December 2022 18: 45
      +3
      It's a "secret Ukrainian tactic" that you'
      1. Alex Nevs
        Alex Nevs 4 December 2022 20: 14
        0
        Unih and Macron are Ukrainian. Proven, and moreover Two! times. Just wait a little and everything will turn out.
  2. carpenter
    carpenter 4 December 2022 17: 35
    +2
    Also, the command of the Armed Forces of Ukraine claims that Russian troops are using "Ukrainian tactics" in the Artyomovsk (Bakhmut) area.

    APU training COIN tactics both abroad and at the Yavoriv training ground, it was built around actions in small mobile groups. At the same time, the main areas of training were maneuvers on light vehicles (the so-called war of pickups), storming buildings and working out the filtering of civilians and is not Ukrainian, but American introduced in the West.
  3. Ulan.1812
    Ulan.1812 4 December 2022 17: 35
    +9
    Well, of course, according to the deep conviction of the Ukronazis, the Masali stole everything from them.
    And language and history and lands, and of course we "stole" strategy and tactics from their "great warriors".
    Mascali, on the other hand, are "not capable of anything" ... "Untermenschi".
    Completely crazy on the basis of megalomania.
    The hangover will be severe.
    1. laws70
      laws70 4 December 2022 17: 41
      +6
      Well, of course, according to the deep conviction of the Ukronazis, the Masali stole everything from them.

      Yes, they have NEVER SHOWED THEIR MILITARY GENIUS in the entire NVO, they simply use the negative genius of our military leaders.
  4. Arkady007
    Arkady007 4 December 2022 17: 41
    +4
    Any tactic is good if it brings the desired result.
    The name of the battles is given by the winners.
  5. Ryzhyv
    Ryzhyv 4 December 2022 17: 41
    0
    It is always unpleasant for the enemy when he is defeated by his own methods, which have proven their effectiveness. Only the Russians have learned to resist them, and the Ukrainians only have to do this. If they succeed.
  6. azkolt
    azkolt 4 December 2022 17: 42
    +1
    What I wrote about in a recent topic, about these "blows to the forehead")))
  7. azkolt
    azkolt 4 December 2022 17: 43
    +1
    Quote: carpenter
    Also, the command of the Armed Forces of Ukraine claims that Russian troops are using "Ukrainian tactics" in the Artyomovsk (Bakhmut) area.

    APU training COIN tactics both abroad and at the Yavoriv training ground, it was built around actions in small mobile groups. At the same time, the main areas of training were maneuvers on light vehicles (the so-called war of pickups), storming buildings and working out the filtering of civilians and is not Ukrainian, but American introduced in the West.

    Under Balakliya, this has borne fruit.
    1. voyaka uh
      voyaka uh 4 December 2022 18: 08
      0
      And near Kherson too.
      In the era of the massive use of drones and ultra-long-range accurate rocket / artillery, there can be no other tactic.
      Any dense group / column is instantly covered with fire from afar or from above from drones.
      Only small mobile groups with good communication between themselves and with the command can survive and attack.
      The Armed Forces of Ukraine were the first to apply new methods in practice, but, of course, the Russian army is also learning them.
      1. azkolt
        azkolt 5 December 2022 19: 30
        0
        It is only clear that this tactic can be used only in conditions of a non-continuous front. Nevertheless, we must pay tribute to the Ukrainians, they successfully applied it (they came up with it or not, the question is here), while our snot chewed and attacked the fortified areas in the forehead. When I wrote back in the summer that it was really impossible to strike from the region of the same Ugledar? Where do I remember the Ukrainian even retreated, and then, when ours did not go further, he returned again! The farther, the more I want to shoot who the fuck whose planners are!
  8. rocket757
    rocket757 4 December 2022 17: 48
    0
    Representative of the command of the Armed Forces of Ukraine: Russian troops use Ukrainian tactics near Bakhmut
    Arguing about the taste of bananas when everyone ate them ... you can, but what's the point? Who liked it, who didn't ... after all, nothing will change, don't argue.
    And yet ... everything is "new", this is a well-forgotten OLD.
  9. Petr_Koldunov
    Petr_Koldunov 4 December 2022 17: 51
    +1
    Small people - small joys ... At least in words - but somewhere it’s better to put yourself out better than Russians :))
    I don’t remember anyone from our command saying that the Armed Forces of Ukraine are using near Artemovsk and generally everywhere - the tactics that the RF Armed Forces used in Mariupol ... although it was exactly like that there! Because ours are above that. Who wants what and can - that is what he uses ...
  10. Romanenko
    Romanenko 4 December 2022 17: 57
    +4
    Did the great Ukrainians come up with the tactics and strategy of warfare, too?
    Here are nimble, always ahead of everyone!
    All of them are learning.
  11. Leshak
    Leshak 4 December 2022 17: 58
    +3
    Wagner uses his "scores" proven by many years of "concerts". There is no need for our musicians to perform the Ukrainian "hopak".
  12. ism_ek
    ism_ek 4 December 2022 18: 10
    +5
    Musicians' tactics are not new. In the film "Best in Hell" everything is shown.
    A small group of attack aircraft is only at the forefront of the attack. Behind her are several companies of infantry, who rush into the open gap. Tanks supporting the infantry. Artillery of various calibers. Aviation.
    And most importantly, decisions on the use of this entire armada are applied in real time.
    In the early days of the NWO, everything was like this, except that everyone acted according to the plan written in advance in Moscow. Any changes had to be coordinated highly and for a long time.
    1. glock-17
      glock-17 4 December 2022 20: 22
      +1
      The film is very interesting and educational. At the end of the film, it is said that there were no significant changes at the front. And this is after bloody battles. Both sides fight well and learn from each other. Even the ancient Spartans said that you can’t fight the enemy for a long time, because you unwittingly become his teacher.
      1. ism_ek
        ism_ek 4 December 2022 20: 39
        0
        Quote: Glock-17
        that there were no significant changes at the front.
        Popasnaya was taken and after that it was possible to surround the Severodonetsk grouping.
        Quote: Glock-17
        Even the ancient Spartans said that you can’t fight the enemy for a long time, because you unwittingly become his teacher.

        Our generals seem to understand this. Let's see what they will "exchange" Kherson for.
      2. Plate
        Plate 4 December 2022 23: 11
        0
        Quote: Glock-17
        Even the ancient Spartans said that you can’t fight the enemy for a long time, because you unwittingly become his teacher.

        But it also works the other way. The enemy also becomes your teacher.
        1. glock-17
          glock-17 5 December 2022 02: 17
          +1
          It's a matter of time and resources. Someone can afford such "study", and someone can not. Scipio before the battle of Zama called Hanibal his teacher. Rome had opportunities to go through such a school. But Russia does not need a long war at all.
          1. Plate
            Plate 5 December 2022 15: 04
            0
            I have already expressed this idea on this site, I will express it again. I think that Russia is not threatened by exhaustion in this conflict, since the intensity of hostilities is not so high. In case of problems on some issues, we can ... purchase the missing items in the West. Just like the West can buy the missing resources from Russia if it feels the need.
            In its current form, no side will be exhausted from the conflict, except for the third, on whose territory everything happens - Ukraine.
  13. belost79
    belost79 4 December 2022 18: 53
    +3
    Oooh, so the assault groups that explode into the trenches are the same Ukrainian invention? And I, a fool, thought that it was the Germans who were the first to use it in the spring offensive of 1918.
  14. petroglyph
    petroglyph 4 December 2022 18: 59
    +4
    Admins, ay, wake up. Here they checked for several days before allowing commenting after registration, and even moderation on all comments, and then the "cyborg" showed up dirtied with his comment. And just signed up yesterday. Can you choke this bug??
    1. Al manah
      Al manah 4 December 2022 19: 28
      +1
      cyborg = coffin good
      in the opinion of the site administration does not carry useful information.
  15. E B
    E B 4 December 2022 19: 06
    0
    Soon they will say that we defeated Hitler with Ukrainian tactics.
    1. guest
      guest 4 December 2022 21: 43
      +1
      Quote: E V
      Soon they will say that we defeated Hitler with Ukrainian tactics.

      Well, that was the Ukrainian front. laughing
  16. Nord11
    Nord11 4 December 2022 19: 34
    +1
    Well, actually, as I remember, a broad tactic is shooting from the bushes and shooting from a sawn-off shotgun into night windows ..
  17. Nord11
    Nord11 4 December 2022 19: 38
    +2
    Yes, Russia takes everything from poor Ukraine, that tactics, that borscht ..
  18. poquello
    poquello 4 December 2022 20: 08
    0
    ""Ukrainian tactics". It consists in the use of small groups of high mobility, which are capable of breaking through the defenses in certain areas. Such mobile groups are also capable of literally being in the enemy's trenches and taking positions under their control in close combat, bringing confusion into the ranks of the enemy. "
    everything is clear, the dill simply cannot reach our trenches, otherwise they would show how to take positions
  19. Fangaro
    Fangaro 4 December 2022 21: 15
    0
    If the tactics were first used by soldiers of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, then there is nothing shameful in using them to your advantage.
    Or did the APU receive a patent in the USA? And now they want payouts?
  20. -ш-
    -ш- 5 December 2022 04: 29
    0
    that dill even taught everyone to breathe, where there ...
  21. iouris
    iouris 5 December 2022 10: 58
    0
    What about it? Secret information leaked?