Ukrainian experts: From the statements of the head of the IAEA, we can conclude that control over Energodar will remain with the Russian army

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Ukrainian experts: From the statements of the head of the IAEA, we can conclude that control over Energodar will remain with the Russian army

Ukrainian experts analyze the statement of the head of the IAEA, Rafael Grossi, regarding the "demilitarization" of the Zaporozhye nuclear power plant. Recall that the day before, on December 3, the head of the IAEA Grossi, in an interview with Italian journalists, announced some agreements, according to which weapons should be withdrawn from the nuclear power plant in Energodar (ZaES). In Russia, these statements caused a negative reaction. Many perceived Grossi's words as another option for a possible "regrouping" of Russian troops with their withdrawal from the ZNPP territory.

In Ukraine, in turn, they express dissatisfaction with the statement of the head of the IAEA. They believe that Grossi's words about the demilitarization of the territory of the Zaporozhye NPP indicate that the Armed Forces of Ukraine will not be able to send their troops to the Energodar region. And for the Armed Forces of Ukraine, such an option would be ideal, since without a fight it would be possible to organize a bridgehead on the right bank of the Dnieper.



It is believed that heavy weapons, if any, Russia "will have to withdraw from the territory of the Zaporozhye nuclear power plant," however, Ukrainian troops will not be able to bring any forces and means there.

Ukrainian experts believe that only under such conditions will the Kremlin accept the option of demilitarizing the station proposed by the IAEA. At the same time, IAEA specialists will carry out safety control at the station.

It is noted that the highest probability corresponds to the option in which the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation, the Russian Guard will not be located directly at the nuclear power plant, but control over the city of Energodar will remain with Russia.

From the statements of the head of the IAEA, we can conclude that control over Energodar will remain with the Russian army.

It should be noted that the authorities of the Russian Federation have not yet commented on Rafael Grossi's statements and expert interpretations on the status of the Zaporizhzhya NPP and control over the nuclear power plant.
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  1. +16
    4 December 2022 00: 52
    From the statements of the head of the IAEA, we can conclude that control over Energodar will remain with the Russian army

    ***
    - Thank God, it is not the IAEA that determines this ...
    ***
    1. +6
      4 December 2022 05: 14
      Ukrainian experts: From the statements of the head of the IAEA, we can conclude that control over Energodar will remain with the Russian army

      And thank God! For the entire population of Ukraine, Europe and the Black Sea region, this is only better in a saving plan!
      To keep the peace, Russia is reliable, but NATO and Ukraine are not.
    2. -4
      4 December 2022 20: 53
      Oh, I wouldn't hesitate! The West needs grain - they pushed us into a "grain deal", which only we comply with, but they have not fulfilled their part of their obligations on Russian grain ... The West needs Kherson, please! The West needs ammonia - now we will supply it to you in Odessa! The West needs Russian oil at 60 - it's not a fact that we won't give it back .... The West needs the Zaporizhzhya NPP - we are also being pushed through! Tell me, if there are knowledgeable people, how much energy went from ZNPP to us, and how much to them? And what about the fight against their energy infrastructure if we are going to give them electricity?
  2. +14
    4 December 2022 00: 55
    we sometimes have the power to keep our mouths closed so gushing ..... but now it would be worth at least the talking mustache Peskov to come out and explain what is happening .... but for now we are listening to "profound silence" ..... idiocy
    1. +2
      4 December 2022 02: 44
      Tapk for any reason and at all levels. They just don't answer, they don't listen.
    2. Loh
      +1
      4 December 2022 10: 44
      now it would be worth at least the talking mustache Peskov to come out and explain what is happening .... but for now we are listening to "profound silence" ..... idiocy

      For some reason, Zakharova M.V. and Lavrov S.V. all comments are given in an understandable language, and the "talking mustache" with an important look tries to look so abstruse that it only depresses the whole country and the army. And everyone thinks that this is the point of view of "himself" - from that and despondency, that thoughts appear about why he started, if everything surrenders. What are the boys fighting for? For an ammonia pipeline, a gas and an oil pipeline, for trade with enemies, so that our killers would be transported by rail? It is necessary to drive such "talking mustaches" for a long time, the enemy, probably also has a US passport.
      1. 0
        4 December 2022 16: 00
        the essence is not in the individual, the essence is in the conduct of business and the fact that a responsible person should speak ..... who exactly is not the essence for me
  3. +19
    4 December 2022 01: 01
    ZNPP is the property of the Russian Federation. What kind of demilitarization of the station can we talk about?
    Grossi's fantasies are Grossi's fantasies.
    1. +6
      4 December 2022 02: 46
      The fact that its ukrofascists are shelling, no one sees or hears, may demand from the ukrofascists to stop shelling, but this doesn’t even come to mind.
      1. +3
        4 December 2022 08: 50
        Here they have such a night blindness, here I see there, I don’t see it, here the tank is small, but in the DPR it is so big and big.
    2. +2
      4 December 2022 08: 53
      Quote: Dinich
      ZNPP is the property of the Russian Federation. What kind of demilitarization of the station can we talk about?
      Grossi's fantasies are Grossi's fantasies.

      Yes, wait! So far, everything is in a fog ... Personally, I don’t really believe the statements of any IAEA and ukroSMI! And our officials are silent .. No matter how there was again a gesture of goodwill ... Like fools, they gesticulate ... They are constantly deceived by pindoSSs, and they rejoice, gesticulate ... ..
  4. +3
    4 December 2022 01: 06
    Quote: Dinich
    ZNPP is the property of the Russian Federation. What kind of demilitarization of the station can we talk about?
    Grossi's fantasies are Grossi's fantasies.

    who argues? we are all only FOR ..... but such statements should be answered, for example, by the Minister for Energy or the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation in view of the situation ..... the fact that we write out loud the truth alas and ah will not change anything
    1. +4
      4 December 2022 01: 12
      Peskov did not seem to be asked about the reaction of the Kremlin to the statement of the head of the IAEA. And to rush with comments on any statement is not respectable. Accordingly, this is also true of the Minister of Energy or the MoD. They will ask - they will answer.
      1. 0
        4 December 2022 01: 24
        this is not "any statement", the head of the IAEA - an international organization and the answer to such a statement MUST be
        1. 0
          4 December 2022 01: 26
          I think we will hear from him soon. I can be wrong, of course, but I personally do not see any visible prerequisites for commissioning the station. As well as for "demilitarization".
          1. 0
            4 December 2022 01: 38
            "visible" prerequisites for such abandonment of Kherson and the right bank of the Kherson region were also not visible ...... therefore I would like to hear statements from the official authorities .... so as not to grind my teeth later
            1. 0
              4 December 2022 01: 43
              There were just prerequisites for leaving Kherson: difficulties with supplies, for example.
              There were also prerequisites for leaving the Kharkov and Kyiv regions:
              A 100-strong army cannot hold such a piece while simultaneously fighting in the Donbass.
              Well, that's what's on the surface at least. These are all errors, of course. But mistakes must be corrected somehow, and not rested on your forehead, otherwise you can lose even more.
              1. -4
                4 December 2022 01: 45
                about the Kharkiv region, I didn’t say a word, not a half a word ..... once again for the Kherson region - there was no reason to give SO
                1. 0
                  4 December 2022 01: 50
                  Well, we don't see the whole picture. So there were reasons.
                  1. -1
                    4 December 2022 01: 54
                    aaaaaaaa .... it turns out))))) so you can justify everything in the world)))) as I understand it, "they" see the whole picture ..... then it is logical to assume that traitors to the country are in power - stop talking nonsense already
                    1. 0
                      4 December 2022 01: 55
                      I have listed the possible reasons below.
                      1. -5
                        4 December 2022 01: 57
                        I wrote above that the reasons you wrote do not stand up to criticism, they are ridiculous, war is war and they don’t like it here, but they kill and they didn’t take the country for a walk
              2. -1
                4 December 2022 01: 46
                supply problems will be throughout the database due to the impact of artillery ..... this is not a reason
                1. +2
                  4 December 2022 01: 52
                  Perhaps a larger grouping of troops is also needed there. There is no point in standing in Kherson, from Kherson it is necessary to advance further, and this requires larger forces.
                  It's like with Snake Island: what's the point of sitting on it to be a target?
                  1. -1
                    4 December 2022 01: 58

                    Quote: Dinich
                    Perhaps a larger grouping of troops is also needed there. There is no point in standing in Kherson, from Kherson it is necessary to advance further, and this requires larger forces.
                    It's like with Snake Island: what's the point of sitting on it to be a target?

                    motivation is fire - so near Moscow you will find yourself rational, you are ours
                    1. -1
                      4 December 2022 02: 05
                      If the troops had remained in Kherson, then it is likely that they would simply have been killed even before reinforcements.
                      We will not find ourselves near Moscow, there is no need to go to extremes.
                      1. +1
                        4 December 2022 02: 27
                        I will remind you that on the right bank in general and in Kherson in particular, our troops were (what does it mean they were?))))) and defended themselves quite normally and did not retreat
                      2. +1
                        4 December 2022 05: 40
                        Quote: Dinich
                        If the troops had remained in Kherson, then it is likely that they would simply have been killed even before reinforcements.

                        What nonsense? Mariupol how many of our marinated? Although he was in full circle?
                      3. -3
                        4 December 2022 06: 01
                        Remind you that Germany lost in the First World War, but its troops were in France at the same time? Does it make sense for them to go to Moscow if the troops start to rebel after the next sale of the now Russian territory and the lives of Russian soldiers and residents of the border regions of the Russian Federation? They are already asking the question - why did they start then?
                  2. +2
                    4 December 2022 02: 06
                    minus)))) I understand who will like to read this, remember - war is essentially an irrational thing and often what works in peacetime does not work at all during wartime. And the fact that you write in the context of maintaining a database is nonsense)))) you either fight and naturally people die, or God forgive me, "imitate" and then even more people die as a result
                    1. 0
                      4 December 2022 02: 14
                      Are you writing from a trench? You talk so boldly about how to maintain a database and about the "naturalness" of people's deaths.
                      I understand your emotions, but in war they win with the mind, not with emotions.
                      1. +1
                        4 December 2022 02: 18
                        to ask about the trench, you yourself must be in the trench - it will be more accurate. I share and fully support the goals of the NWO, BUT it was not I who promised with a blue eye "I will show you what de-Sovietization is" .... therefore, a small and victorious war MUST be like this ......... I remember the history and how Nikolashka the second ended his life ....... and to hell with him, I remember what shocks it ended for the country and, most importantly, WHAT human casualties
                      2. 0
                        4 December 2022 02: 21
                        oooh ...... I know very little about HOW to maintain a database ..... BUT I am aware that before the start of maintaining a database, mobilization is announced ... at least for every fireman ..... and now I am forced to read opuses like yours about the fact that in the Kharkov and Kiev regions we did not have enough people ...... well, that's me ... observing aloud
                      3. +2
                        4 December 2022 05: 37
                        Quote: Ovsigovets
                        BUT I am aware that before the start of database maintenance, mobilization is announced

                        For example, like the Poles, who called up reservists in the spring and staffed the units to full strength. In our country, even after the departure from Kyiv, they tried to say that there would be no mobilization.
                        Time criminally loved.
                      4. +1
                        4 December 2022 02: 25
                        and also observing aloud is that ground forces in the amount of 600K are not enough to maintain a database on the continent ...... and that apparently "those who know everything and to whom they report" knew and saw that instead of convulsive mobilization, it cost a year like this this is the 2014 army in general and the ground forces to increase thousands by 500 contract soldiers ..... this is to your remark "that we are simple people and do not see the whole picture"
                  3. +1
                    4 December 2022 05: 41
                    Quote: Dinich
                    It's like with Snake Island: what's the point of sitting on it to be a target?

                    Then why did they land on it at all? wink
              3. +2
                4 December 2022 02: 17
                The falsity of any words about the difficulties of the crossing can be seen already because how to drape across the Dnieper, we did it in five days, but we can’t increase the grouping, they say.
              4. +3
                4 December 2022 05: 24
                Quote: Dinich
                A 100-strong army cannot hold such a piece while simultaneously fighting in the Donbass.

                The need for mobilization was clear immediately upon departure from Kyiv, but someone stubbornly triedndel that it would not happen. wink If it had been held in the spring, the Kharkiv region would not have had to be left.
                The glory of the grandmaster is clearly far-fetched.
        2. +3
          4 December 2022 07: 03
          An organization that is under the control of "unfriendly" countries, and I would say - enemy countries, cannot tell us what we should do. And it is not necessary to answer the enemy, the answer will be only when we deem it necessary.
      2. +2
        4 December 2022 01: 34
        Quote: Dinich
        Peskov did not seem to be asked about the reaction of the Kremlin to the statement of the head of the IAEA. And to rush with comments on any statement is not respectable. Accordingly, this is also true of the Minister of Energy or the MoD. They will ask - they will answer.

        To the banality of a simple explanation! No conspiracies about Putin's agreements and conspiracies of the oligarchs.

        It’s impossible, my friend, it’s not accepted here! I gave you a plus, obviously assuming that they will give you a bunch of minuses.
        1. +1
          4 December 2022 05: 26
          Quote: Damir Zakirov
          Pretty simple explanation!

          Well, given that Peskov is talking nonsense in response to questions, then the "simple explanation" is from the same opera.
          1. 0
            4 December 2022 14: 49
            Quote: Ingvar 72
            Quote: Damir Zakirov
            Pretty simple explanation!

            Well, given that Peskov is talking nonsense in response to questions, then the "simple explanation" is from the same opera.

            Peskov should be talking nonsense, since his position does not oblige you to anything. I completely ignore him.
    2. +2
      4 December 2022 01: 50
      Unfortunately, even if Putin says something there, now after the surrender of Kherson it doesn’t mean anything. I'm still waiting for our leadership to describe their defeat with some sort of peace treaties and withdrawal from the territory. Then it will be clear what to do with such power. And the Ukrainians will not rejoice for long, the next ruler will erase this sub-state from reality.
      1. 0
        4 December 2022 10: 51
        Quote: Damir Shamaev
        And the Ukrainians will not rejoice for long, the next ruler will erase this sub-state from reality.

        If, you mean the next Russian ruler, then everything is debatable and not clear. Maybe Russia should be deleted following the example of Humpbacked with EBN
    3. +3
      4 December 2022 04: 09
      such statements should be answered, for example, by the Minister for Energy or the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation in view of the situation

      Yes, it doesn't matter who - there is only one answer: until Grossi names the side from which the shelling is being carried out, there will be no dialogue with the IAEA!
    4. +1
      4 December 2022 05: 53
      Yes, the Ministry of Defense should make a statement in the form of shifting the front to the west by three hundred kilometers.
  5. -1
    4 December 2022 01: 13
    Again we hear about "difficult decisions"
  6. +2
    4 December 2022 01: 34
    Friedman was detained in London today. So after a couple of hours from all the trumpeters, the Foreign Ministry demands an explanation of the reasons for the detention and access of consular workers.
  7. +2
    4 December 2022 02: 09
    the funniest thing is that there are a lot of minuses to my "voice of the questioner in the desert" and silence in response and only Dinich answers)))))) the rest apparently have nothing to say from the word at all)))) well, minus minus
    1. +2
      4 December 2022 02: 30
      Quote: Ovsigovets
      the funniest thing is that there are a lot of minuses to my "voice of the questioner in the desert" and silence in response and only Dinich answers)))))) the rest apparently have nothing to say from the word at all)))) well, minus minus

      Dialogue has two sides. There are two of you in the subject - a complete set for dialogue.
      The rest do not interfere - it's time to sleep, what to butt at night looking!
      1. -2
        4 December 2022 02: 42
        I really hope that my compatriots have critical thinking and, most importantly, the authorities understand that the Russian people have such thinking and we will read less and see such "garbage", God forgive me ..... so that the authorities remember that The Hague is garbage that inside the country itself they will ask ...... in short, as he wrote above, "the story of Nikolashka the second"
        and mind you, I am not calling for a riot or revolution ... I call on the authorities with my truly competent leadership, both in peacetime and in wartime, not to get dirty and not to ruin the country with the people
  8. +4
    4 December 2022 04: 33
    At the same time, IAEA specialists will carry out safety control at the plant.
    Will they be brought from Alpha Centauri? What countries will these "experts" come from? From what organizations? I would be quite satisfied with the PMC "Wagner"
  9. +1
    4 December 2022 05: 08
    Quote: Ovsigovets
    we sometimes have the power to keep our mouths closed so gushing ..... but now it would be worth at least the talking mustache Peskov to come out and explain what is happening .... but for now we are listening to "profound silence" ..... idiocy


    Why does management have to comment on every vyser?
    1. 0
      4 December 2022 05: 27
      vyser is if you asked or said ... the IAEA is still an organization and we participate in it
    2. +1
      4 December 2022 05: 32
      Quote from BattleToads
      Why does management have to comment on every vyser?

      Do you think it's a vyser? Does the leadership not see that people no longer have confidence in the authorities, despite the efforts of the "guardian" trolls? Doesn't understand what the lack of dialogue with the people can lead to? Kherson Russia forever, remember? Kupyansk, Izyum? Words that the Azov people will not be changed under any circumstances? Now slurred negotiations on Zaporizhzhya NPP. Bubnezh Peskova "I don't know".
      Is this not a betrayal?
  10. +1
    4 December 2022 05: 24
    Quote: Damir Shamaev
    Unfortunately, even if Putin says something there, now after the surrender of Kherson it doesn’t mean anything. I'm still waiting for our leadership to describe their defeat with some sort of peace treaties and withdrawal from the territory. Then it will be clear what to do with such power. And the Ukrainians will not rejoice for long, the next ruler will erase this sub-state from reality.


    L-logic laughing
  11. +1
    4 December 2022 05: 46
    Quote: Ingvar 72
    Quote: Ovsigovets
    BUT I am aware that before the start of database maintenance, mobilization is announced

    For example, like the Poles, who called up reservists in the spring and staffed the units to full strength. In our country, even after the departure from Kyiv, they tried to say that there would be no mobilization.
    Time criminally loved.

    yes, at least with the beginning of the database ........
  12. +4
    4 December 2022 05: 51
    As soon as the Russian power structures leave the territory of the nuclear power plant, the troops of the Armed Forces of Ukraine will certainly arrive there, having repeatedly attempted to land on the right bank and take control of the station. It seems that history does not teach us anything, there were already agreements with the so-called "gray zones" in the LDNR, and then the Ukrainian side arranged "frog jumps" in them, capturing neutral sectors of the front. The Kyiv regime is absolutely incapable of negotiating, and even with the mediation of international organizations, it will not comply with any agreements.
  13. 0
    4 December 2022 05: 59
    Quote: Ingvar 72
    Quote from BattleToads
    Why does management have to comment on every vyser?

    Do you think it's a vyser? Does the leadership not see that people no longer have confidence in the authorities, despite the efforts of the "guardian" trolls? Doesn't understand what the lack of dialogue with the people can lead to? Kherson Russia forever, remember? Kupyansk, Izyum? Words that the Azov people will not be changed under any circumstances? Now slurred negotiations on Zaporizhzhya NPP. Bubnezh Peskova "I don't know".
    Is this not a betrayal?

    Ingvar is not a betrayal in the truest sense of the word .... this is politics ..... but I would like more respect for the blood of the people, more value for those lives that we have lost and will lose ..... if you led us to a victorious war then WIN in the end
  14. -2
    4 December 2022 06: 02
    Quote: Ingvar 72
    Quote from BattleToads
    Why does management have to comment on every vyser?

    Do you think it's a vyser? Does the leadership not see that people no longer have confidence in the authorities, despite the efforts of the "guardian" trolls? Doesn't understand what the lack of dialogue with the people can lead to? Kherson Russia forever, remember? Kupyansk, Izyum? Words that the Azov people will not be changed under any circumstances? Now slurred negotiations on Zaporizhzhya NPP. Bubnezh Peskova "I don't know".
    Is this not a betrayal?


    Naturally vyser.
    I fully trust our Russian leadership 100%.
  15. 0
    4 December 2022 07: 20
    If this is true, then we need to remember how Yanukovych ended up trying to negotiate with the Madanuts in 2014 (with the mediation of the West).
  16. 0
    4 December 2022 10: 12
    It should be noted that the authorities of the Russian Federation have not yet commented on Rafael Grossi's statements and expert interpretations on the status of the Zaporizhzhya NPP and control over the nuclear power plant.
    . Write off such figures as Grossi to the swamp ... only there they belong.
  17. 0
    4 December 2022 20: 19
    From the statements of the head of the IAEA, we can conclude
    ,
    and only one: Grossi talks, the wind wears.
    You have to be completely crazy to listen to this ... and even believe his words.
  18. -1
    4 December 2022 21: 38
    The phrase Ukrainian experts is beginning to become synonymous with British scientists...
    Once upon a time, England was an advanced country with a powerful fleet, a strong army, an efficient economy, advanced industry, brilliant scientists and philosophers, laws that forced kings to reckon with their subjects ...
    Ukraine has never been like this. Will it?
  19. 0
    5 December 2022 12: 00
    what agreements can be with these scum?