American expert: The conflict in Ukraine will determine the direction of the development of naval forces around the world

December 2 2022 32

The Russian Black Sea Fleet entered the current conflict with an overwhelming advantage, mainly due to the fact that the Ukrainian Navy almost ceased to exist in 2014. However, over time, everything has changed, writes American expert Robert Farley in his article for 19fortyfive.

The material says that in the initial stages of the conflict, Russian warships acted extremely effectively off the coast of Ukraine, blocking the enemy’s navy and preparing an amphibious assault on the coast of Odessa. However, over time, the Armed Forces of Ukraine created a reliable countermeasure system based on anti-ship missiles of domestic and foreign production, UAVs, marine drones and the use of NATO satellite and aerial reconnaissance. As a result, these means of protection not only complicated the actions of the warships of the Black Sea fleet, but also began to pose a danger to Russian port facilities.

As Farley writes, it seems surprising that a war between two countries with a land border of almost 2,3 km is being waged for control of the sea. Moreover, this may be the first conflict in which unmanned surface ships are widely used.

According to the author, today all states that have a navy are closely watching what is happening in Ukraine and drawing appropriate conclusions.

The American expert noted that the confrontation in the Black Sea will probably not bring as many useful lessons as the Falklands War of 1982. But it will definitely give an idea of how technologically advanced combatants fight at sea.

Farley emphasizes that to date there has not yet been confirmed evidence that any of the parties to the conflict used unmanned underwater vehicles. At the same time, according to the author of the article, there is no doubt that such devices will become an integral part of naval battles in the future.

In general, according to the expert, the current conflict will not only dot the “i” regarding the sphere of influence in the Black Sea, but will also determine the future direction of the development of naval forces around the world.

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Petr_Koldunov

+11

2 December 2022 20: 13

Again this Farley and again with incoherent nonsense about the "opposition" of the fleets of Russia and Ukraine ... Will anyone forbid him to buy drugs?
1. Godzila
  
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  2 December 2022 20: 23
  
  Russia will change the world and the geopolitical balance of power ..
  And the US is in an unenviable position!
  Their (Anglo-Saxons) time has passed .. After the outskirts, Russia will come out different, realizing that we have no "friends" and never had .. But only the Army and Navy with the Aerospace Forces!
  PS The imperial spirit, it crushes the soul and the blood of our ancestors boils in us
  1. Ulan.1812
    
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    2 December 2022 20: 50
    
    Quote from godzila
    Russia will change the world and the geopolitical balance of power ..
    And the US is in an unenviable position!
    Their (Anglo-Saxons) time has passed .. After the outskirts, Russia will come out different, realizing that we have no "friends" and never had .. But only the Army and Navy with the Aerospace Forces!
    PS The imperial spirit, it crushes the soul and the blood of our ancestors boils in us
    
    Of course, their time has passed, but they will spoil in the end to the fullest.
    1. Godzila
      
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      2 December 2022 21: 31
      
      Quote: Ulan.1812
      Of course, their time has passed, but they will spoil in the end to the fullest.
      
      They are already shitting with the help of Ukrainians .. They are ready for anything already, with such losses and when they have a kagal in Kyiv at the head.
      I remember we had "seven bankers" .. Blood flowed like a river and there were huge losses in all directions ..
      Thank God we got rid of and understood what and why in this world .. These damn Satanists
      We don’t advance on the Okrine, but wait and destroy, and these rods are stupidly under the artillery, like zombies FOR WHAT?
      For Ze and K Eh you .. All this money goes past you
      1. Ulan.1812
        
        +3
        
        2 December 2022 22: 12
        
        Quote from godzila
        Quote: Ulan.1812
        Of course, their time has passed, but they will spoil in the end to the fullest.
        
        They are already shitting with the help of Ukrainians .. They are ready for anything already, with such losses and when they have a kagal in Kyiv at the head.
        I remember we had "seven bankers" .. Blood flowed like a river and there were huge losses in all directions ..
        Thank God we got rid of and understood what and why in this world .. These damn Satanists
        We don’t advance on the Okrine, but wait and destroy, and these rods are stupidly under the artillery, like zombies FOR WHAT?
        For Ze and K Eh you .. All this money goes past you
        
        Last Saturday I went to Moscow by train. Caught at one of the stations train with MLRS.
        That is, reinforcements are coming.
2. soloist2424
  
  +1
  
  2 December 2022 22: 17
  
  Yes, drugs are legal in the United States. And at the headquarters, I suppose, they serve it at breakfast.
3. DIM (a)
  
  0
  
  2 December 2022 22: 21
  
  ocean-level naval forces (far hand) are needed only by aggressors, but a high-quality coast guard paradigm is important for us, and then access to the ocean, monitoring vessels are needed, trade support vessels too!
4. Corrosion inhibitor
  
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  3 December 2022 02: 53
  
  You have only one reflection. Do you want to raise "Moscow" from the bottom? ... Sounds good, doesn't it? ... for u.k.r.o.v ...
  But not for us.
  However, over time, the Armed Forces of Ukraine created a reliable countermeasure system based on anti-ship missiles of domestic and foreign production, UAVs, maritime drones and the use of NATO satellite and aerial reconnaissance.
  
  Maybe this is "nonsense"? .. For many years I have been writing about several things in a row. One of them is the construction of shock and landing ekranoplans. While they are attacking, they cannot be stopped, they are not within the reach of either air defense, or anti-aircraft defense, or coastal defense. Their speed is great, small drones simply will not catch up with them. And the carrying capacity and the lack of the need to have a berth make it possible to carry out both landing and strike operations ...
  Instead of doing so, our corrupt "strategists" in the Kremlin said: "The classic fleet is good, it is a permanent presence everywhere" - and they made boats, at the same time drank the budget well, bought real estate in enemy countries.
  And what do we have now?.. The greed of the fraers ruined ...
  The ships of the Black Sea Fleet sit in the Sea of Azov like frogs in a swamp and periodically croak their calibers anywhere, in all directions. ... Everything is permanent, everything is classical, and it makes sense, as I wrote earlier - full permanent zero.
  If Ukraine were not Ukraine, but, for example, Germany or another NATO country, the Ukrainian swamp would have been cleared long ago so that only submarines could return to Sevastopol, and even then not all of them and not entirely. And then, the end of the war, immediately. Negotiations lohovskie, govnomir and a new war, very soon.
  This is what it means to lose the advantage in maneuver and speed. Permanence is the last century, these are the times of battleships and squadrons based on them, time has gone very far ahead since the last battleship was launched and then removed from service.
  As a result, those who bet on permanentity ruined our fleet for many years to come. And those who are unable to develop advanced technologies profited from this. Was incapable, and will be unable further. It's not in their interest. But, everyone loves money, but to serve the Motherland ...
  Let me remind you that the ekranoplan Orlyonok, designer Rostislav Alekseev, which went into series, could fly at an altitude of 1 km above the ground and, at the same time, carry armored vehicles and personnel inside. I won’t even talk about the Lun ekranoplan. In the West, they just crap when they realized what it is and why this object does not need the ability to actively maneuver and break away from the screen, like an Eaglet ...
  And where is it all now? That's right, on the pages of history used as paper in the toilet. Our main enemies are not NATO countries. The destruction of the military-technical potential of the USSR began at least 30 years before Gorbachev came to power. Today, nothing has changed, because the children and grandchildren of these "comrades" are now deciding on the future fate of what could not be buried in the ground and drowned in the sea - too.
  Guess what will happen next if we will silently watch this time as well, how will it all end? ... And our colleagues, designers, engineers and scientists, will continue to spend their lives on labor in vain for our country, which, in the end, will still go to the enemy, and even for nothing.
  A lot of smelly shit has accumulated in Russian ministries and departments, which no one has cleaned for a very long time.
  As long as this is the case, "Moscow" will sink again and again.
  1. Mouse
    
    +1
    
    3 December 2022 03: 58
    
    You are right in many respects. They seem to walk around in diapers and be afraid. And sip cognac, what do you think? Boys are ethyl junkies. Yes Yes. That is one of the troubles. Some have a stigma in a cannon and others. Corruption could be defeated if they were shot. Yes, who will do it? Our country needs either a new Stalin or a new Hitler. Not an exhibitionist or an ethyl junkie like Elsin.
    1. Corrosion inhibitor
      
      +1
      
      3 December 2022 04: 20
      
      Corruption cannot be defeated, but ... it can be strongly suppressed by the methods you have indicated.
      In the USSR, a wealth of experience was collected in the oppression of corrupt officials, which was based on its ideological denial. OBHSS alone was worth something. I can write a book about it, 400 pages long. Like L. Tolstoy's "War and Peace", only - "Corruption and OBKhSS" ... and a little KGB.
      But, it will not be published yet anyway - it will be too incriminating for modern Moscow Jews and Armenians.
      1. Amateur
        
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        4 December 2022 09: 43
        
        OBHSS alone was worth what
        
        UBHSS was expensive. The level of corruption was rampant there. The poor GAI officers were pioneers in comparison with them, collecting and handing scrap metal to Vtorchermet. It was with the UBKhSS that the disintegration of the police began. And when Andropov created the Economic Department of the KGB to fight them, the "office" also began to rot
5. Mouse
  
  +1
  
  3 December 2022 03: 53
  
  Who will stop you from buying drugs? Are you going to the beer store soon? In a country where an ethyl addict becomes president, they are ready to bend any stick just to please whom? You don't understand the meaning of drugs at all. For example, Indian warriors took coca leaves on a campaign to make hiking easier. They increase stamina and speed of reaction. During the Second World War and not only perventin was used. A phobia is about drugs, you know - an ethyl addict brought his country to the point that ethyl swill was considered a drink. And from him 80 percent of the murders occur - nothing?
  You have to learn from enemies - and the best teacher is the enemy. And the enemy showed how he bombed Serbia with tactical nuclear charges. Learn. The Kremlin did not have enough will to take it by the throat immediately and strangle it? So maybe because there are a lot of drug addicts? When will you stop wagging and begin to understand the truth for what it is? You understand who is deceiving you.
evgen1221

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2 December 2022 20: 22

Fortifive? expert? Well, cap obvious. That's just the question of destroying the fleet driven into the bay and the same but in the open spaces of the seas of the oceans, these are, as it were, different issues and are solved by different means. And yes, there is a common thing, well, the microcircuits are the same, the resistors are there. Probably with this comment, if this fortifive reprints it at home, I’m probably among them (experts, God forgive me) I’ll just be a god of 80lvl.)))) Like many on our site.
Fangaro

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2 December 2022 20: 33

Farley may be a drug addict, I don't know, never met.
But the fact that he touched on the topic of surface and underwater drones is really nonsense?
He served for a long time, not in the Navy, in private and non-commissioned officers. Not an expert. Not even a couch expert.
Any modern "rogue" that can be controlled remotely and save lives is developing very quickly.
The enemies are faster, we are slower, but there are not only torpedoes.
I would like to read more about the technical capabilities of remote control of underwater vehicles. After all, there should be their own limitations in terms of frequency, response speed, power of the emitted signal, honesty and noise immunity. It's not just radio.
1. Alien From
  
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  2 December 2022 21: 06
  
  The war of machines, although far away, but damn close!
  1. Godzila
    
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    2 December 2022 21: 42
    
    Quote: Alien From
    The war of machines, although far away, but damn close!
    
    The spiritual war is on
    1. Alien From
      
      0
      
      2 December 2022 21: 51
      
      It certainly goes, and I believe in Russia, unlike the pedo-Westerners!
      1. Godzila
        
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        3 December 2022 09: 46
        
        Quote: Alien From
        It certainly goes, and I believe in Russia, unlike the pedo-Westerners!
        
        I believe too ! No other way .. It's very difficult now, but compared to the terrible 90s There is pride in all of us We can resist the devil!
ilpine

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2 December 2022 21: 02

You can shout a lot about the advantage in the sea and in the air, but in reality everything goes back to the queen of artillery fields, then to missiles, and now it’s better to space-guided drones.
lopvlad

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2 December 2022 21: 23

in the initial stages of the conflict, Russian warships were extremely effective off the coast of Ukraine, blocking the enemy’s navy and preparing amphibious assault forces on the coast of Odessa.

something did not notice the active actions of our ships off the coast of Ukraine, well, except for the actions near the Snake Island, which is now empty. But no one was going to land an amphibious assault on the coast of Odessa.

As a result, these means of protection not only complicated the actions of the warships of the Black Sea Fleet, but also began to pose a danger to Russian port facilities.

in order to strike at Russian ports, Bandera had to violate the terms of the grain deal by launching naval drones from civilian ships and souls in this corridor. Still, the result of this strike attempt is negligible.
1. Rustic
  
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  2 December 2022 21: 53
  
  something did not notice the active actions of our ships off the coast of Ukraine, well, except for the actions near the Snake Island, which is now empty. But no one was going to land an amphibious assault on the coast of Odessa.
  With the same success, we can say that the entire US submarine fleet, with a bunch of aircraft carriers, turned out to be a useless pile of rusty scrap metal against the great Afghan army in slippers. And intercontinental missiles are completely junk, Afghan slippers are the best weapons.
Arkady007

+2

2 December 2022 21: 49

Any war is a springboard for the development of scientific achievements.
withoutreverse

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2 December 2022 22: 01

and what is the connection with land Ukraine?? has the direction of the development of naval forces around the world?
1. soloist2424
  
  +3
  
  2 December 2022 22: 28
  
  This is the great insight of an expert. No one sees, but he figured it out.
soloist2424

+2

2 December 2022 22: 26

War is strange. On the one hand, some of the systems used are very modern, on the other hand, the full range of possibilities is not used. nuclear weapons for obvious reasons. But satellites, for example, do not shoot down, although they can. And they don’t want to beat the economy to the fullest, because in some areas it’s more expensive for themselves. That is, the capabilities of developed countries and mutual dependence are such that the fight goes halfway.
And this expert babbles about the confrontation at sea, although the naval forces are just involved in a quarter of the force, if not less.
1. Mouse
  
  0
  
  3 December 2022 06: 04
  
  She's been weird before. Smart and brave Americans are professionally playing war all over the world. They are not afraid to use tactical nuclear weapons. But the branch of Russian Slavism, yes, is strange. It is even strange that an ethyl addict ruled the country - clearly and strangely. This is generally a gap in the mind of the people. What's strange here?
  1. soloist2424
    
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    3 December 2022 15: 54
    
    Smart and brave Americans...
    
    Good joke. Thanks to their "smart" courage, 3/4 of all terrorists dream of repeating September 11, and 3/4 of the world's population hate Americans just because they are Americans. At some point it will shoot. With the same success it can be said that the smart and courageous Germans in 1939 conquered all of Europe.
Mouse

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3 December 2022 05: 55

Quote: Corrosion_Inhibitor
Corruption cannot be defeated, but ... it can be strongly suppressed by the methods you have indicated.
In the USSR, a wealth of experience was collected in the oppression of corrupt officials, which was based on its ideological denial. OBHSS alone was worth something. I can write a book about it, 400 pages long. Like L. Tolstoy's "War and Peace", only - "Corruption and OBKhSS" ... and a little KGB.
But, it will not be published yet anyway - it will be too incriminating for modern Moscow Jews and Armenians.

So you don't want to win, or you're afraid to write. Such an ideological bomb, if it is not a set-up and a juggling of facts, it would not be bad to start being not for a wide range of people. And for those who can extract from it the strength to really correct the situation. So I would advise you to print - not too large a print run. And not in a too open printing house, but for people who have the right to make decisions and not shake up dirty laundry with long tongues.
Mouse

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3 December 2022 06: 01

Quote: Arkady007
Any war is a springboard for the development of scientific achievements.

It really scammed you. For any development of the energy potential of matter attracts the attention of the military. I can’t tell if it’s true or not - tell stories about what Tesla could give to the world, but just in case, you can not wave your hand and say if it’s true. The master realized that this could accelerate death for the barbarians and did not open the next step of knowledge about the energy of matter. Can you think otherwise? Otherwise, they would have boarded starships to destroy the worlds of the galaxy. All these shooters are anomalously filled with bloodshed.
Fan-fan

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3 December 2022 10: 27

One conclusion can already be confirmed: the fleet cannot be in the zone of destruction of enemy anti-ship missiles. What sunk our ships? Rockets. Couldn't this have been foreseen?
Mouse

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3 December 2022 21: 29

Quote from solist2424
Smart and brave Americans...

Good joke. Thanks to their "smart" courage, 3/4 of all terrorists dream of repeating September 11, and 3/4 of the world's population hate Americans just because they are Americans. At some point it will shoot. With the same success it can be said that the smart and courageous Germans in 1939 conquered all of Europe.

It would be better if you didn’t buzz in your ears about hatred of the Americans and you seriously understood the essence of the problem. And the problem is that we have a war. And we do not fuck the Americans, but vice versa. With such a failure in the conclusions, you have nothing to congratulate. Find someone to compare. Problems need to be solved.
Amateur

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4 December 2022 09: 26

The conflict in Ukraine will determine the direction of the development of naval forces around the world

The Black Sea itself, being in fact a closed water basin, with no aircraft carriers and nuclear submarines, a specific theater of operations, in principle cannot be a model for the Navy of anyone else.