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Shoigu: Over 300 reserve servicemen trained at training grounds in Russia and Belarus in two months

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Shoigu: Over 300 reserve servicemen trained at training grounds in Russia and Belarus in two months

Russian troops participating in a special operation in Ukraine are testing new ways of combat use of missile forces and artillery. This was stated by Defense Minister Sergei Shoigu at the board of the military department.


Rocket troops and artillery still remain one of the most effective means of defeating the enemy, therefore, units of the Russian Armed Forces within the framework of the NMD are testing new methods of combat use of cannon and rocket artillery, as well as missiles, primarily in conjunction with drones. This allows you to strike in real time.

To date, within the framework of counter-battery combat, the Tornado-S MLRS and the Malka self-propelled guns have proven themselves, the effective range of which makes it possible to destroy artillery systems supplied by the West.

Also at the board meeting, Shoigu touched on the issue of training mobilized reservists, saying that in two months more than 300 fighters had been trained at more than a hundred military training grounds throughout Russia and Belarus. More than 3 thousand military instructors, including those with combat experience, were involved in the training. To date, more than eight thousand crews have been trained tanks and armored vehicles, artillery crews, air defense, drones and electronic warfare.

From the minister's speech: the state defense order for this year has been fulfilled by 99%, next year it will be increased by 1,5 times, which will make it possible to provide the troops with new equipment and weapons. All military supplies under the State Defense Order are controlled by the National Defense Control Center. Next year, the construction of a new infrastructure in five formations of the Strategic Missile Forces will be ensured for the deployment of new missile systems.
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  1. Leader_Barmaleev
    Leader_Barmaleev 30 November 2022 13: 39
    +8
    From the minister's speech: the state defense order for this year has been fulfilled by 99%, next year it will be increased by 1,5 times, which will make it possible to provide the troops with new technicians and weapons.

    This should be understood as follows - this year the end of the war (the victory of the Russian army) is not planned, but next year - how the chip will fall.
    1. Ingvar 72
      Ingvar 72 30 November 2022 13: 50
      +12
      Quote: Leader_Barmaleev
      this year, the end of the war (victory of the Russian army) is not planned

      This is a war for years. Perhaps it will be frozen, but then it will continue again.
      And the preparation for the most part took place only on paper.
      1. Leader_Barmaleev
        Leader_Barmaleev 30 November 2022 13: 55
        +2
        In this case, the respected minister should have said about the possible mobilization of reservists, an increase in both the number and service life of the draft army, and the restoration of military schools. But somehow he doesn't agree.
        1. Ingvar 72
          Ingvar 72 30 November 2022 13: 57
          +5
          Quote: Leader_Barmaleev
          In this case, the respected minister should have said about the possible mobilization of reservists

          Must does not mean obligated. Putin also said that there would be no mobilization, although even in the spring it was clear that it was necessary. hi
          1. Civil
            Civil 30 November 2022 14: 51
            +1
            Well, they sent 300 men to the trenches, what next?
            1. bayard
              bayard 1 December 2022 04: 39
              0
              Quote: Civil
              what's next?

              Another 300 thousand to mobilize and prepare. By the end of winter this batch will also be ready. The preparation of the third wave will be ready by the middle of spring. That's when you can fight.
      2. navigator777
        navigator777 1 December 2022 13: 28
        -1
        Quote: Ingvar 72
        Quote: Leader_Barmaleev
        this year, the end of the war (victory of the Russian army) is not planned

        This is a war for years. Perhaps it will be frozen, but then it will continue again.
        And the preparation for the most part took place only on paper.

        As expected, they will cook on the ground, in the trenches, at the training grounds they will teach you to shoot and not fight.
    2. akropin
      akropin 30 November 2022 13: 55
      +1
      The guys said how much is needed to prepare 16 attack aircraft for battle. https://t.me/dshrg2/381

      Let's give an example of what is needed and how much it costs for a group of 16 people participating in combat operations as assault infantry with the ability to perform additional functions.
      As an example, only equipment and its price (not always the current one, since now you can’t find much or the price tags are huge). Of course, kitchen analysts will say that it’s not worth investing so much money in equipment and equipment, everything can be bought cheaper (at the expense of quality or functionality), but people who value themselves and their level will try to take the best.

      So, let's go:

      1. Two pickup trucks (1 for delivery, 1 for evacuation). Yes, they give out armored vehicles - or maybe they won’t give it, also in some structures they give out cars, but they may not be enough. The pickup must be in excellent condition, which must be constantly maintained. The price is modest - 4 million rubles.
      (yes, the UAZ patriot is cheaper, but an example of a neighboring battalion, which was supplied with humanitarian new Patriots and one woke up after 3 thousand runs, and the second after 8)

      2. NVD Monoculars 3 generations, 16 pieces. Ideally, every fighter should have it, if you take the old price tag (140 thousand), then this is 2,24 million rubles.

      3. Thermal imaging sights, 4 pieces (at least 1 for a sniper and 1 for a machine gunner + 2 for machine guns). At the most modest prices, this is 850 thousand rubles. Sights, respectively, should be of normal quality, and not Chinese peepers up to 300 meters.

      4. Night sights on image intensifier tubes of 3 generations, also at least 5 pieces (1 on RPG). The price is 500-600 thousand rubles.

      5. Quadcopters Mavik 3 set (at least 2 drones for the operator) with additional batteries, this is about 500 thousand rubles.

      6. A quadcopter with a thermal imager from 600 to 2 million (we use them thanks to the help of Magi who supplied us with a Matrice 30T with a huge additional set).

      7. Drone-piercing gun - at least 400 thousand.

      8. Stationary jammer - also at least 200 thousand.

      9. Digital radio stations (for example, Motorola 4801e and 4400e), at least 8 pieces with additional batteries and headsets. This is a minimum of 400 thousand, and plus we recommend using different types of communication in 1 group (for example, digital and wave), and expensive repeaters are still needed for stations.
      Army "Azart", unfortunately, is used most often in open mode, and communication with allies (who do not have stations with your encryption) is possible only through negotiation tables, which most often do not exist and only to limit the flow of information).

      10. Metal detector for sappers, 2 pieces minimum, 70 - 100 thousand rubles.

      11. An optical sight for a sniper (naturally with a bracket or rings, etc.) - from 60 thousand rubles for not the best.

      At the same time, we bypassed individual equipment (armor, summer and winter uniforms, etc.), which cost no less than 200 thousand per person according to the beach price itself, entrenching tools, sleeping bags, etc., and we have already got at least 9,4 - 10,9 million rubles.


      300 people - it turns out approximately 000 rubles. If you do everything honestly. I do not believe that this kind of money will be spent to provide the fighters with everything they need.
      1. gromit
        gromit 30 November 2022 14: 26
        +7
        No need to mix a limited number of attack aircraft and other military personnel.

        The expenses you cited are scanty when compared with a one-time purchase and the need to support a soldier for years.

        He constantly wants to eat, sleep, loses equipment, breaks equipment, wears out his uniform, goes to the hospital and doesn’t fucking work.
        If 200 billion were all expenses, we would all clap our hands.

        This year we have already spent 3,5 trillion. In the next, they plan to spend 50% more.
        In general, all social expenses in our country are 5,8 trillion, in general, everything.

        That is, all pensions, payments, salaries of state employees in the pre-war period could be painlessly raised one and a half times.

        Here you have "no money" (
        1. Dedok
          Dedok 30 November 2022 14: 53
          0
          Quote from Gromit
          Here you have "no money" (

          What are you up to, comrade?
          to the Holy...!
      2. Dedok
        Dedok 30 November 2022 14: 57
        +1
        Quote: akropin
        The guys said how much is needed to prepare 16 attack aircraft for battle.

        everything is fine, but, somehow, this is capitalistic - that is, - "to whom is war, and to whom is mother dear"
        I just want to ask the question: what are we defending? - Motherland? or how?
        if the Motherland - then at cost (without margin), and if "how" - then ...
      3. Petr_Koldunov
        Petr_Koldunov 30 November 2022 15: 57
        +5
        Quote: akropin
        300 people - it turns out approximately 000 rubles. If you do everything honestly. I do not believe that this kind of money will be spent to provide the fighters with everything they need.

        You are absolutely right, a lot of money (moreover, you have not yet included personal weapons and ammo for them in the list). But ... first of all - purchases for the needs of the Moscow Region (just, to be honest, without corruption) - will be at purchase prices, which is noticeably cheaper.
        And then, even 187 billion rubles is 3 billion dollars. This is 0,10-0,15% of the country's GDP. Will a country really suffer greatly if it spends only ONE-TENTH OF PERCENT of its GDP on such an important cause?
        (for comparison, ukroreich spends 30% of GDP on the army in wartime - and is still alive :)))
    3. opposite28
      opposite28 30 November 2022 14: 05
      +2
      Something tells me that the chip lay down so she was told to lie down. recourse
  2. Bomb
    Bomb 30 November 2022 13: 39
    +7
    More than 300 not military personnel have been trained, but mobilized ones, to be more precise. As it turned out, we do not have enough military personnel.
    1. RED_ICE
      RED_ICE 30 November 2022 13: 41
      +2
      Shoigu didn’t say that, the author came up with the title of the article
    2. 2 Level Advisor
      2 Level Advisor 30 November 2022 13: 43
      +10
      more than 300 thousand .. more .. how much is this? I have already written more than once that I don’t really believe in this figure, here is confirmation from the 1st person, so to speak ..
      1. BMP-2
        BMP-2 30 November 2022 14: 04
        +4
        But psychologists say that a text containing numbers is more trustworthy! laughing
      2. Ural resident
        Ural resident 30 November 2022 20: 24
        +1
        Quote: 2 level advisor
        more than 300 thousand .. more .. how much is this? I have already written more than once that I don’t really believe in this figure, here is confirmation from the 1st person, so to speak ..

        It also seems like a lot more, but that would be a plus
    3. Dedok
      Dedok 30 November 2022 14: 52
      +2
      Quote: Bomb
      As it turned out, we do not have enough military personnel.

      and you count the "shoulder straps" that are worn in civilian life, around you, and then there may be a different opinion
      yes, at the same time look at the MO - there, on tights, there is nothing but: from the drawing of the manufacturer of these tights, to stripes ... - these are also "military personnel"? - and not civilians ...
  3. dnestr74
    dnestr74 30 November 2022 13: 39
    +3
    Now they need to be given 8 thousand tanks, infantry fighting vehicles and other artillery, I really hope that they will find
  4. RED_ICE
    RED_ICE 30 November 2022 13: 40
    +2
    Storyteller. It is not possible to train a sapper in one week!
    1. Diana Ilyina
      Diana Ilyina 30 November 2022 13: 44
      +10
      Or maybe he was just retrained? Who told you that among the mobilized there are no former sappers, miners, artillerymen, tankers, etc.?
      1. RED_ICE
        RED_ICE 30 November 2022 13: 48
        +10
        My nephew! He is not a sapper like his comrades. They were sent to the city of Volzhsky, where the center of the engineering troops is located. Preparation for the sapper took exactly one week. A week later, they were already sent to the NWO zone.
    2. Ingvar 72
      Ingvar 72 30 November 2022 13: 47
      +5
      Quote: RED_ICE
      Storyteller. It is not possible to train a sapper in one week!

      Yes, it is unrealistic to prepare anyone. I have already said more than once that in the Roshinsky Samara region, the people swell in the bulk. There is no preparation. And in December they will be sent.
      As usual, prepared on paper.
      1. Nastia makarova
        Nastia makarova 30 November 2022 13: 52
        -3
        Ukrainians were prepared.......................
        1. Ingvar 72
          Ingvar 72 30 November 2022 14: 02
          +6
          Quote: Nastia Makarova
          Ukrainians were prepared.......................

          Thousands of them are prepared in "partner" countries.
          1. Nastia makarova
            Nastia makarova 30 November 2022 15: 31
            -5
            we also have hundreds of thousands, they were able to train why do you think that we can’t?
            1. Ingvar 72
              Ingvar 72 30 November 2022 16: 22
              +3
              Quote: Nastia Makarova
              why do you think we can't?

              Because I know how the training goes in the Samara region. Those responsible for such "preparation" should be shot. Because the lives of these mobs are at stake.
              1. Nastia makarova
                Nastia makarova 1 December 2022 08: 39
                -2
                not everything is bad everywhere, there are places where training is normally carried out
        2. DymOk_v_dYmke
          DymOk_v_dYmke 30 November 2022 14: 13
          -5
          Quote: Nastia Makarova
          Ukrainians were prepared.......................

          .... to the grave.
        3. gromit
          gromit 30 November 2022 14: 30
          +3
          Well, how many of them are now rotting under Bakhmut after the fashionable 16 weeks of training?
          1. Ingvar 72
            Ingvar 72 30 November 2022 14: 32
            +5
            Quote from Gromit
            Well, how many of them are now rotting under Bakhmut after the fashionable 16 weeks of training?

            Our there, too, go to bed unmeasured. The attacking side suffers more losses if you didn't know.
            1. gromit
              gromit 30 November 2022 14: 55
              +9
              I know very well.

              When Prigogine stated that "either convicts or your children," he did not explain what would happen when the convicts ran out.

              In Ukraine, too, at first, the national battalions and convicts from the ATO veterans were thrown, but how did it end? Now mobiks are being chased, and convicts and Nazis are in detachments.

              We will be horrified after the war.
              Well, at least the morons with stickers "We can do it again" will finally understand why this is a holiday with tears in their eyes.
  5. Nesvoy
    Nesvoy 30 November 2022 13: 44
    -4
    Well, they prepared 300 thousand, well, ok. What's the point? It's still not enough to win though.
    1. dmi.pris1
      dmi.pris1 30 November 2022 13: 49
      +7
      Victory is achieved not by quantity, but by quality and the availability of the necessary weapons and regular supplies. Although I also consider this quantity insufficient. But this is apparently the quantity that we can supply with everything necessary
      1. Ingvar 72
        Ingvar 72 30 November 2022 13: 52
        +8
        Quote: dmi.pris
        but the quality and availability of the necessary weapons and regular supplies

        And the ideology of victory. Which is "slightly" vague.
      2. RED_ICE
        RED_ICE 30 November 2022 13: 53
        +4
        We are waiting for spring. You see, there will still be mobilization
        1. Ingvar 72
          Ingvar 72 30 November 2022 14: 00
          +4
          Quote: RED_ICE
          We are waiting for spring. You see, there will still be mobilization

          I'm willing to bet what will happen. According to the mind in the second half, when there is no need to provide warm clothes.
          1. dementor873
            dementor873 30 November 2022 14: 59
            0
            To provide 300 volunteers with sleeping bags, thermal underwear and winter berets, 8750000 rubles are collected, this is the cost of 20 fighters equipped with armor, helmets, first-aid kits and other pribluda at Avito prices. So it’s more of a problem to provide them with armor than thermal underwear. Yes, even mobile phones themselves can buy all these warm clothes for 15K. Well, I collected everything for myself from warm clothes for such an amount.
            1. Ingvar 72
              Ingvar 72 30 November 2022 16: 38
              +1
              Quote: dementor873
              So it’s more of a problem to provide them with armor than thermal underwear.

              A good platen on Aliexpress is about 30-40 thousand rubles. This is with plates and Militech aramid. Plus protection of the neck, shoulders 12-15. Helmet 12-18 thousand rubles. Clothes each for themselves, shoes too. Medicine Rino in the region of 4 thousand.
              Walkie-talkies (mandatory!) Baofeng or Retevis about 5 thousand rubles. Plus ten thousand small things (multi-tool, flashlight, bowler hat, spatula, gas burner).
              But now problems with customs suddenly arose, which suddenly got into their heads that all these goods should be delivered ONLY through the Ministry of Defense. As a result, many people have quadrocopters, medicine, walkie-talkies, armor, thermal imagers and night vision devices stuck at customs. Everything that was supplied to the front by volunteers and enthusiasts. It got to the point that they don’t let thermal underwear through, it seems due to the fact that the product description contains the word “tactical”. am
              1. dementor873
                dementor873 30 November 2022 18: 27
                +2
                Chel has been waiting for ammunition since September. I ordered a tactical first-aid kit for myself with all the stray things that they definitely won’t give at the warehouse. And the delivery date has already changed from December 2 to December 30, while the parcel has not even left the seller to the post office in China. They seem to be better informed than us with troubles at customs.
                And to find a platen that was shot by our armor-piercing and withstood them. And it is unlikely that these certificates were sent to the seller in China so that he could present them to us. The scout had one platener shot, he vouches for him. The question is how to understand which tile is for sale at 50 different sellers? And the most important thing, why the hell should we personally deal with this and not Ensign Shmatko.
                1. Ingvar 72
                  Ingvar 72 1 December 2022 12: 55
                  0
                  Quote: dementor873
                  And to find a plate that was shot by our armor-piercing and withstood them.

                  Militech is one of the best Chinese stoves. They have different plates, and Kevlar bags are immediately sealed in a rubberized fabric.
                  P.S. I also have a lot of things stuck.
                2. Konnick
                  Konnick 2 December 2022 13: 15
                  0
                  And to find a plate that was shot by our armor-piercing and withstood them.

                  Major casualties, over 95% of artillery fire. There are practically no losses from the riflemen. The Armed Forces try not to engage in shooting combat, they simply observe, call for and correct artillery fire as our attacking groups approach. Body armor won't help much.
              2. dementor873
                dementor873 30 November 2022 18: 29
                -1
                The comment field cannot be empty.
          2. gromit
            gromit 30 November 2022 16: 09
            +2
            By the end of November, the digitalization of the bases of military registration and enlistment offices and their integration with the bases of the Federal Tax Service, the Ministry of Internal Affairs and public services should be completed.
            NG will not spoil, but from mid-January they will be busy.
            They will not announce a new mobilization, they will row at the request of the Moscow Region.

            There is already the first conclusion of the court that without a decree on the termination of partial mobilization, no public words of either the guarantor or the minister of defense are a reason not to appear in the military registration and enlistment office.
            1. RED_ICE
              RED_ICE 30 November 2022 17: 02
              +2
              The President of the Russian Federation instructed to create a single digital platform containing up-to-date information about citizens who are registered with the military, as well as those who should be on the lists, but did not register. The resource is entrusted to create by April 1, 2024. By the way, around this time, the spring conscription usually starts.

              As planned, this large database should replace the thousands of personal files scattered across the shelves of military registration and enlistment offices throughout Russia. The information in them is sometimes not updated for decades. And in the current format of communication between commissariats and conscripts, in order to update the data, it is necessary to summon a person liable for military service with a summons, which is oh, how difficult.

              If the idea is implemented, then, judging by the content of the document, in the future, military registration and enlistment offices will be able to receive all the necessary data without taking into account the desires, moods, as well as the health and employment of a person liable for military service. Up-to-date information will be in the personal file thanks to the system of interdepartmental electronic interaction. Until the end of 2022, the heads of the subjects, the Ministry of Digital Development and the Ministry of Defense were instructed to ensure the process of converting personal files into electronic form. Further, the Ministry of Internal Affairs of Russia, the Ministry of Health, the Ministry of Education and Science, the Ministry of Education, the Ministry of Agriculture, the Ministry of Sports, the Pension Fund, the Election Commission, the Federal Penitentiary Service, the Federal Tax Service, state authorities, law enforcement agencies should supplement them with relevant information. Well, the current phone numbers and e-mail will be taken from a single identification system used to provide public services in electronic form.

              Conscripts are unlikely to appreciate this novelty, because if the idea is implemented and will work like all the usual electronic services tied to public services, then up-to-date information about them will be available online.

              https://news.rambler.ru/community/49762384/?utm_content=news_media&utm_medium=read_more&utm_source=copylink
              1. gromit
                gromit 30 November 2022 17: 59
                +1
                It was not for nothing that they were driven to the State Services by a lure to pay fines with a 50% discount.
                Here's the savings for you

                In theory, the next step should be a law on notifying citizens through a personal account. Car fines and a receipt for payment of housing come by e-mail, the agenda is no different from them.
                Check it yourself and go to the military registration and enlistment office. If you meet within 2 weeks, then you can buy a uniform and shoes from MO with a 50% discount)
    2. RED_ICE
      RED_ICE 30 November 2022 13: 51
      0
      As I understand it, 300k were mobilized only for the protection and defense of occupied lines. The offensive is conducted only in the Donbass. But there mostly PMC works.
  6. AdAstra
    AdAstra 30 November 2022 13: 47
    +8
    "" "" "" "" "
    1. Alien From
      Alien From 30 November 2022 13: 56
      +2
      If only the words did not disagree with the deed, otherwise there is too much blizzard around this, you don’t know who to believe.
  7. Boniface
    Boniface 30 November 2022 13: 48
    0
    Mobilized and Reservists are somewhat different concepts!
    1. Nyrobsky
      Nyrobsky 30 November 2022 18: 18
      +2
      Quote: Boniface
      Mobilized and Reservists are somewhat different concepts!

      If you change the words in places, then everything will fall into place. Served, got registered with the mobile reserve (reserve), the Motherland needed it, pulled out of the reserve (mobilized). They gave the order in parts and put on allowance - everything, no longer a reservist, not mobilized, but a military officer. yes
  8. Ulan.1812
    Ulan.1812 30 November 2022 13: 55
    +9
    I heard him speak.
    In short, everything is fine, a beautiful marquise and I'm done.
    1. dementor873
      dementor873 30 November 2022 15: 02
      +3
      They report so cheerfully because at the moment they see how well the ELITE parts of our army and PMCs are fighting. When losses grow exponentially when mobs enter battles, then they will begin to grab their heads. Analogy February 24 and we do not need mobilization.
      1. Nastia makarova
        Nastia makarova 30 November 2022 15: 34
        -4
        part of the mobs at the front, gaining combat experience, will become an elite by spring
        1. Ingvar 72
          Ingvar 72 30 November 2022 16: 19
          +4
          Quote: Nastia Makarova
          by spring will become an elite

          Those who will survive. And the percentage of survival directly depends on training, which is absent in most mobpoints. Equipment is a separate conversation, in order to raise morale and to correct the situation, it would be nice to sentence to long terms a couple of staff rats responsible for all these "favorite" sets of the Warrior, which existed only on paper.
    2. Xnumx vis
      Xnumx vis 30 November 2022 15: 03
      +3
      Quote: Ulan.1812
      I heard him speak.
      In short, everything is fine, a beautiful marquise and I'm done.

      The voice is interrupted, lost, trembling, the impression that it reads in syllables ... What I don’t like ...
      1. Ulan.1812
        Ulan.1812 30 November 2022 15: 24
        +3
        Quote: 30 vis
        Quote: Ulan.1812
        I heard him speak.
        In short, everything is fine, a beautiful marquise and I'm done.

        The voice is interrupted, lost, trembling, the impression that it reads in syllables ... What I don’t like ...

        Yes... I have that impression. Maybe it finally dawned on me that sooner or later I will have to answer?
        1. Xnumx vis
          Xnumx vis 30 November 2022 15: 29
          0
          Quote: Ulan.1812
          Maybe it finally dawned on me that sooner or later I will have to answer?

          Finished the game ... a formidable descendant of Genghis Khan on the violin ...
        2. Mishka78
          Mishka78 30 November 2022 15: 33
          +1
          Quote: Ulan.1812
          Maybe it finally dawned on me that sooner or later I will have to answer?

          Yes, you don’t have to .. Who answered from the top? Especially those who "fought" nearby or lived in the same tent?
          Sometimes they gnawed at each other, yes, Ulyukaev is the same as an example. But this is an intraspecific struggle. No responsibility for prosёry.
          1. Ulan.1812
            Ulan.1812 30 November 2022 15: 45
            +1
            Quote: Mishka78
            Quote: Ulan.1812
            Maybe it finally dawned on me that sooner or later I will have to answer?

            Yes, you don’t have to .. Who answered from the top? Especially those who "fought" nearby or lived in the same tent?
            Sometimes they gnawed at each other, yes, Ulyukaev is the same as an example. But this is an intraspecific struggle. No responsibility for prosёry.

            You can't just dream. In general, everything happens in life.
  9. ximkim
    ximkim 30 November 2022 13: 56
    +7
    There is absolutely no faith in the minister, as well as his boss ..
  10. SlavaS
    SlavaS 30 November 2022 13: 58
    +1
    Briefly about the situation in the army, a colleague volunteered, it’s been 3 weeks in the city of N, they live in a tent, heat with firewood, half dressed, half undressed, the governor came, he was shown the chosen tent by incomprehensible people, i.e. he doesn’t know how things are at all, there are no officers, there is one corporal contract soldier per company, everyone has knives, 11 wounds and one tightly, how they feed is a completely different story, everyone thumps smoke, there are no restrictions in this, the contingent that is 20-25 years old, in general, everything is like in a computer game, I don’t understand at all where they are and how, meat is meat. I am writing until December 1 has come, maybe someone will put things in order.
  11. vadim_ivanov
    vadim_ivanov 30 November 2022 14: 08
    +4
    Better retire on my own, retired, on my own
  12. canurodes
    canurodes 30 November 2022 14: 11
    +1
    Again he banged with heels, he prepared .., we translate into normal Russian - they were placed in huts, fed, shot at cardboard.
    1. bravo77
      bravo77 30 November 2022 14: 29
      +2
      Yes, they have permanent bipolar. Either they say that a year of service means nothing, or they prepare qualified specialties in a month in conditions of confusion, lack of instructors and training
      1. AdAstra
        AdAstra 30 November 2022 14: 42
        0
        This is definitely a dissertation you can safely write on this topic.
  13. bravo77
    bravo77 30 November 2022 14: 26
    +1
    oh how, it turns out that in a month it is possible to prepare a tank crew, and even in the amount of 8 thousand. The question remains where Almaty is to them. And in general, will something be younger than the t-72? A question to a person who stated that the Russian army is the most modern in the world by 71% new
  14. Dedok
    Dedok 30 November 2022 14: 45
    +1
    Shoigu: Over 300 reserve servicemen trained at training grounds in Russia and Belarus in two months

    Storyteller...
  15. Amper
    Amper 30 November 2022 15: 08
    +3
    No one doubted that everything would fit in my report, everyone was prepared, everything was according to plan, as in biathlon. soldier And some screams from the ground are provocations. belay Well, that's all! From December 1, the regime of silence and well-being, noisy - to the yard! belay You can do NG fellow
    R / s They are in a stream of criticism from the field for 9 months The people were amazed by their actions, but in silence, what will happen !!? belay
    1. Ulan.1812
      Ulan.1812 30 November 2022 15: 27
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      Quote: Amper
      No one doubted that everything would fit in my report, everyone was prepared, everything was according to plan, as in biathlon. soldier And some screams from the ground are provocations. belay Well, that's all! From December 1, the regime of silence and well-being, noisy - to the yard! belay You can do NG fellow
      R / s They are in a stream of criticism from the field for 9 months The people were amazed by their actions, but in silence, what will happen !!? belay

      Yes... that's all tomorrow, so have a last break. lol
  16. Mishka78
    Mishka78 30 November 2022 15: 23
    +1
    These 300 thousand have been prepared, let's go next.
    This is how I see the logic.
    Well, in light of the fact that the military registration and enlistment offices need to finish collecting data on reservists by 30.12.22/XNUMX/XNUMX, I see a second wave of mobilization in January.
  17. Alexga
    Alexga 30 November 2022 15: 30
    +3
    https://rg.ru/video/2022/11/30/sergej-shojgu-vystupil-na-zasedanii-kollegii-minoborony-rossii.html
    Here is a link to the performance in Shoigu. Look, it's only 5 minutes. Why distort the news. Oh yes, tomorrow is December 1st!
  18. bravo77
    bravo77 30 November 2022 15: 52
    -1
    Quote: Mishka78
    These 300 thousand have been prepared, let's go next.
    This is how I see the logic.
    Well, in light of the fact that the military registration and enlistment offices need to finish collecting data on reservists by 30.12.22/XNUMX/XNUMX, I see a second wave of mobilization in January.


    The fact that there will be a wave is a no-brainer.
    It is not clear how they are going to support all this army when it is at the front. Well, such a number cannot constantly sit in the trenches. This is logistically expensive and difficult in terms of maintaining motivation, if any. Here one can see some kind of powerful offensive with a large number of losses or filling the occupied territories with troops with commandant functions. To maintain the status quo, the first 300 thousand would be enough. In addition, the autumn and spring demobilizations have been conscripts for 23 years, and this is almost 300 thousand, they are easily mobilized.
  19. ZnaxarJorge
    ZnaxarJorge 30 November 2022 17: 59
    +1
    After the failure of equipping the army, Shoigu in the rank of MO is a shame and a spit in the face of soldiers on the front line.
  20. anclevalico
    anclevalico 2 December 2022 07: 22
    +1
    Financing will be increased by 1,5 times. Ksyusha and the deputy of plywood are already rubbing their hands, inventing new "projects".