Those who did not let a volunteer into a bar in Saratov urged to apologize to him

According to the chairman of the regional Duma of the Saratov region, Mikhail Isaev, the police should take over the establishment that refused to let in a participant in a special operation in Ukraine.

Representatives of the relevant authorities should initiate a criminal case against the owner of the establishment who refused to visit the military man, Isaev believes.

The incident took place at the Harat's bar in Saratov. The video of the incident went viral on social media. When a volunteer in military uniform decided to visit this establishment, he was refused, citing the fact that, according to the rules, no one, except for police officers, could enter the bar in uniform. The name of the volunteer has not yet been released.

State Duma deputy and head of the Saratov regional branch of the United Russia party, Nikolai Pankov, assured that he would prepare a request on this matter to Rospotrebnadzor and law enforcement agencies.

According to him, those responsible for the fact that the CWO volunteer was not allowed into the bar should at least apologize to this guy.

Read newsthat a volunteer was not allowed into one of the institutions of the city because he was in military uniform. If the information is confirmed, then this is a very shameful case for our city. It is unacceptable. This is a betrayal of our military and those killed in the Donbass. Let whoever did this look their mothers in the eyes. In the meantime, I will make a request to law enforcement agencies and Rospotrebnadzor. We must not turn a blind eye to this.

Such a boorish treatment should not take place in relation to the participants of the NWO, the deputies of the State Duma of the Russian Federation and the Saratov Regional Duma emphasized.

Comments

[dmi.pris1]

It is indicative to close this "business". Others will bow to the soldiers. Interesting, if this happened in Ukraine, what would happen to the owner of the institution? This is the question of the unity of society

[Fedor Sokolov]

Yes, everything is much sadder there! This bar (pub) is decorated in the British style, and the type that did not let our fighter into the drinking establishment is rear-wheel drive (obviously committed to English "values"), who loves to pose in the form of a NATO soldier.

[dmi.pris1]

Good. What will this "sad" one do after losing his income? Continue to live in the "British style"? Or will he change his mind?

[zloybond]

Another question - in the form we also cannot use an alcoholic. It's a 50x50 situation. So you can plump only if without a form. The charter does not allow.

[suhorukofal]

Quote: zloybond

The charter does not allow.

The charter does not allow many things and obliges many, only it is applicable, it turns out, only to ordinary soldiers. 50 to 50 there would be a situation where the fighters would be provided with everything necessary, otherwise the situation is wonderful for the leadership: "we will not provide anything, but we will demand in full"

[zloybond]

We are now talking about a specific violation of the charter (if there was one, of course). And if we go off topic every time and talk about something else, otherworldly, about parallel worlds, and if, and over there ... - In this case, we will also have to say that the Charter must be violated ????
If the task is to create an official precedent - it is possible and necessary to thump in the form - Let's talk about it ... who is against chatting up the topic.

[suhorukofal]

Quote: zloybond

If the task is to create an official precedent - it is possible and necessary to thump in the form - Let's talk about it ... who is against chatting up the topic.

Lex uno ore omnes alloquitur - the law is the same for all. But it's better to pinch the soldier. I understand your logic, you are right, but the army supplies us in such a way that I am not surprised when people remain without a citizen, and they are the same people. Here you should not pinch the soldier, but come to a compromise, although who is a soldier, so, the body

[zloybond]

Once again about the logic - Tsipsoshniks, for their part, will certainly advise: let it in, pump it up, shoot a video and put it on the network. That's better? No problem. It is also an option.
The bartender left sober and in uniform, with an unspoiled reputation. But he did not like it and went to complain.
Let's see. Then they would laugh over a drunken body ...
More than enough options. For the sake of hype, tearing each other to pieces because of an undrunk glass (bottle) will now be half the country.
At the expense of pinching a soldier: - History is silent about whether there (at the bar) were still people in uniform. So we are talking about a specific case - a man in uniform decided to come in and use it. They made a remark to him, he went to write to the Human Rights Council.

[suhorukofal]

Will you tell me, as a volunteer, about CIPSO?
it is easier to infringe on our brother than to stand in our ranks. Fu wam

[zloybond]

So boo. Nobody is answering you. Just remove the form.

[suhorukofal]

It's you who thump, for which such places are just for swell and once such a level of generalizations. And secondly, I saw boys who walk around in this rags as if they were permanent. Before an order can be given, it must be carried out. To you, at home in a greenhouse, relatively speaking, it’s good to put marks, it’s convenient, it’s good. And the soldier is always to blame for everything, while some in the officer assembly gathered, others died. Of course, I'm exaggerating, but the similarity is outlined. There are scum majors, but there are honest soldiers of their homeland

[zloybond]

You all saw something and you all know ... Shpak has a tape recorder and the ambassador has a medallion ....
... But ... you’re tearing at the British flag in opposition now because of a glass you haven’t drunk ... well, somehow it’s working out so far ....

[Shurik70]

Quote: zloybond

Another question - we also can’t use an alcoholic in uniform, like

It's not the bartender's problem.
The fighter is an adult, so he himself must answer for his misdeeds.
So let his duty officer dryuchit.
If the bartender is such an adherent of the charter, he could knock on the military patrol AFTER he served the fighter.

[zloybond]

Well, we weren't there. Maybe he just made a remark to an adult fighter, but he got upset and went to write to all authorities. Many things can be.
He took off his uniform and grunted happily. Delov something.
No, well, you could, of course, pump up a fighter to the fullest, then shoot a video - see the Soldier of the Russian Federation lying around - This would no longer be a patriotic option. Of the two evils, the bartender chose the more colorful fighter. Sober and fit. Well, that's in my opinion.
Tsipsoshniks would probably advise you to let it in, pump it up with an alcoholic (maybe even for free), put it on the net.

[suhorukofal]

Quote: Shurik70

If the bartender is such an adherent of the charter, he could knock on the military patrol AFTER he served the fighter.

I fully support your idea. A soldier who enters a bar in uniform is not a sign of a criminal, so you can think of a lot of things. And then someone decided to take on the role of a moral guide, 50 to 50 let the commandants talk, not the bartender, sorry for the jargon

[Arkady007]

It's not even in the Charter question.
What is a uniformed man to do in a bar? This is more a matter of cultural education of the person in uniform.
Well, he didn’t go there to watch cartoons, did he?
Rather, it was an already prepared challenge to society.
There will be even more of these after the completion of the SVO. And the disassembly will not be funny at all.
Because there will always be those who will say: "We did not send you there."

[suhorukofal]

Quote: Arkady007

Rather, it was an already prepared challenge to society.

Good point, I support it. as you rightly noted, first create the conditions, then demand. And we go in trousers, but we still owe everything and our rights are limited. Doesn't it remind you of anything?

[Plate]

And who said that he went there to drink? I understand they serve appetizers as well. He walked and walked, wanted to eat, and then oops, some kind of public catering turned up very successfully ...

[avg]

Quote: zloybond

So you can plump only if without a form. The charter does not allow.

To thump is bad in any form. And visiting a restaurant in uniform is quite normal. Many of our civil departments have uniforms and wear them on solemn occasions. You need to come to the Kremlin, the Ministry of Foreign Affairs or Russian Railways for a banquet in uniform, but you can’t go to a cafe with your wife. These dislocations come from the 90s, when officers changed clothes after service. Respect for form must be revived, and people like this bearded bartender should be severely punished, otherwise there will be a lot of arrogant and boorish people who repent the next day and get off with ridiculous fines.

[zloybond]

I agree to the restaurant - only if in the front door. In the field - only a dining room.

[sifgame]

So no one used an alcoholic and we don’t know what this warrior wanted in a bar, he can have a bite, there are different bars.

[dementor873]

Now, if this fighter was kicked out drunk for a brawler from this institution, then yes. But in fact, a man came to the pub in uniform and did not go in. Why does this warrior allow himself, disgrace the military uniform. Oh, those labels, and the man hasn't even done anything yet. Just didn't make it.

[SKVichyakow]

Quote: dmi.pris

Good. What will this "sad" one do after losing his income? Continue to live in the "British style"? Or will he change his mind?

Send all "such" to the NWO zone, regardless of position or social status, for mandatory re-education.

[bayard]

Quote: SKVichyakow

Send all "such" to the NWO zone

To condemn under the article the undermining of the defense capability and the decriedization of the Armed Forces in wartime, and to send Wagner to re-education. There, if anything, a hammer will help.

[Evil 55]

How about curing the entire staff of this bar with a summons to the army?

[gsev]

Quote: Angry 55

How about curing the entire staff of this bar with a summons to the army?

Moreover, send under the command of the one who was not allowed into the bar. This can only be treated with cardinal drugs. A light punishment will make Russophobia resistant to stronger drugs.

[ANB]

A little more is written on RIA.
The deputies proposed to open an exit commission of the city and enlistment office near this bar and call the owners and staff of the bar first. And also check the visitors - whether everyone paid their debt to the Motherland. :)

[Foul skeptic]

The deputies proposed

And why not offer them, the deputies themselves "do not owe" anything to the Motherland.

[alekseykabanets]

Quote: ANB

The deputies proposed to open an exit commission of the city and enlistment office near this bar and call the owners and staff of the bar first. And also check the visitors - whether everyone paid their debt to the Motherland. :)

Deputies in the forefront should be sent to the front! This should be the slogan, "United Russia forward!", otherwise how to accept pension reforms, they are the first, but how to defend the Motherland, they will do it better from the TV screen.

[edmed]

Quote: aleksejkabanets

"Unicorns go ahead!", but how to take pension reforms,

And it is also desirable to have very active "grandparents" who traded their faces on TV for the "pension reform" to dig trenches on the front line, with picks and shovels, "After all, life is just beginning"

[stankow]

It seems that 3-4 deputies put on uniforms. The percentage is not worse than in the country.

[alekseykabanets]

Quote: stankow

It seems that 3-4 deputies put on uniforms. The percentage is not worse than in the country.

Yeah, we took pictures near the front line and left back. By the way, they received the status of a combat veteran for these trips, as far as I know.

[stankow]

And how do you know? Can I have a link? And here, on VO, why didn’t they write?

[sifgame]

1. Adam Delimkhanov. received the GRF
2. Ahmed Dogaev
3. Viktor Vodolatsky
4. Dmitry Sablin.
5. Dmitry Khubezov.
6. Vitaly Milonov
7. Sergei Sokol.
8. Oleg Kolesnikov.
9. Alexander Boroday.
10. Oleg Golikov.
11. Evgeny Pervyshov
12. Yuri Shvytkin
Not all of this list reliably lost to the NWO. Of course, the deputy will receive the status of a combat veteran if he went there as a volunteer.

[ALARI]

And since when did a call to the military registration and enlistment office and service to the Motherland become a punishment in our country? Why did they start to scare the population with the military registration and enlistment office? Does this generally comply with the law? A lot of uncomfortable questions pop up because of the zeal of some bureaucrats who have a stigma in the cannon.

[Nychego]

Quote: ALARI

And since when did a call to the military registration and enlistment office and service to the Motherland become a punishment in our country?

Yes, since February in large cities this is basically how it is perceived.
Trench trenches are mostly unpaved village rides.

[zloybond]

Strangely, they are thrown into extremes - they offer to close all the drunks next to the military enlistment office so that the military does not drink - but here, on the contrary, they demand to open it closer ... what kind of inconstancy. Incomprehensible logic...

[Lara Croft]

Quote: Evil 55

How about curing the entire staff of this bar with a summons to the army?

The owners of this "charitable" institution are most likely those who were "busy" and could not go to defend NGOs, but the staff are "refugees" from Ukraine ....
Those who will return from the NWO will recognize their cities less and less ...

[dmi.pris1]

What does “busy” mean? Our factory director is also a busy person, but he finds time with his comrades to go to the front with cargo for the soldiers. The most necessary things are products, building materials, heating equipment

[Lara Croft]

Excuse me, but how does my comment relate to your answer to it?
My comment carries more meaning than just

"busy"

Or are you just trolling by taking things out of context?

[Fat]

NPO - translated into Russian as a non-profit public organization, very often - a foreign agent. He was busy - that means he did not shine in scandalous actions. Type - a true "underground worker".

[Lara Croft]

Quote: Thick

NPO - translated into Russian as a non-profit public organization

I actually wrote about Nagorno-Karabakh ....
You are like from a joke: "... you yourself are a pervert, you constantly show such pictures" ...

[Vend]

Quote: dmi.pris

It is indicative to close this "business". Others will bow to the soldiers. Interesting, if this happened in Ukraine, what would happen to the owner of the institution? This is the question of the unity of society

We need to start a criminal case.

[2 Level Advisor]

what article? I didn’t see something like that in the Criminal Code of the Russian Federation - they didn’t let me into the bar ... In the BAR! not in the library...

[Mikhail Sidorov]

what article? I didn’t see something like that in the Criminal Code of the Russian Federation - they didn’t let me into the bar ... In the BAR! not in the library...

There would be a bar, but you can pick up an article.

[Vend]

Quote: 2 level advisor

what article? I didn’t see something like that in the Criminal Code of the Russian Federation - they didn’t let me into the bar ... In the BAR! not in the library...

So don't be too hard on changes in the law. On March 4, 2022, Vladimir Putin signed laws amending the Criminal Code and the Code of Administrative Offenses. New articles establish responsibility for spreading fakes about the actions of the Russian army, belittling its authority and calling for anti-Russian sanctions. Liability under Art. 280.3 of the Criminal Code of the Russian Federation may come for any public action, regarded as detracting from the authority of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation. It doesn't matter if it's a bar or a library. Show me one law that forbids people in uniform from going into bars or libraries or whatever?

[Sergey Aleksandrovich]

Why, there is the 282nd, humiliation on the basis of belonging to a social group.

[seregatara1969]

stop going to this bar! cancel themselves and quickly!

[insafufa]

There is nothing for soldiers and officers in uniformed bars to set a bad example for their colleagues.

[lis-ik]

Quote: insafufa

There is nothing for soldiers and officers in uniformed bars to set a bad example for their colleagues.

I agree. In the USSR, it would never have occurred to a soldier to show up in a bar in uniform, they would have been handed over to the commandant's office.

[suhorukofal]

To begin with, return the attitude as a soldier of the Soviet era, then be clever. If you want discipline, organize the conditions. But there is only one principle - "keep and do not let go", the bullies of our time. Forward the ranks of the Russian Army about the honor to talk

[alekseykabanets]

Quote: Wend

So don't be too hard on changes in the law. On March 4, 2022, Vladimir Putin signed laws amending the Criminal Code and the Code of Administrative Offenses. New articles establish responsibility for spreading fakes about the actions of the Russian army, belittling its authority and calling for anti-Russian sanctions.

Yeah, they didn’t let the soldier get drunk, is this a fake about the actions of the Russian army or a belittling of its authority?

[AdAstra]

Fake derogation of her authority, something like that, probably

[suhorukofal]

And he definitely went to get drunk? You would be in the generals, all problems would be solved by prohibitions. Although what am I talking about, such people now "successfully" solve them with similar methods

[alekseykabanets]

Quote: suhorukofal

And he definitely went to get drunk? You would be in the generals, all problems would be solved by prohibitions. Although what am I talking about, such people now "successfully" solve them with similar methods

There is nothing for a soldier in uniform to do in a drinking establishment. Yes, even in the vole. Was it difficult for him to change? Okay, he would come to the dining room, and he went to the bar to relax.)))

[suhorukofal]

Did you get new uniforms? I personally gave my citizen to my relatives. And, by the way, a bar is not necessarily Bukhalovo, it is an institution that operates on the basis of the Federal Law, and not on a whim. And And not to the bars to shift the functions of the VP

[alekseykabanets]

Quote: suhorukofal

a bar is not necessarily Bukhalovo, it is an institution that operates on the basis of the Federal Law,

Listen, do you often go to a bar for lunch? There is no food, just a snack.)))

[suhorukofal]

And he had to buy alcohol there and get drunk? As a matter of fact, in local "bars" near bus stations you can do without booze

[gromit]

A drunken soldier from the NVO zone, who set fire to the Kostroma "Polygon" with a shot from a rocket launcher, under what article does he pass?
9 dead, is this a derogation of authority or is it still discredit?

Hence the instruction to the guards, to pay special attention to inadequate in khaki colors.

[Havoc]

Quote: 2 level advisor

what article? I didn’t see something like that in the Criminal Code of the Russian Federation - they didn’t let me into the bar ... In the BAR! not in the library...

I agree there is no article, BUT, first the police come with a measuring cup, checking all invoices along the way, then Rospotrebnadzor and starts looking for all sorts of bacilli and microbes, then the valiant fire brigade in the person of an inspector with a tape measure and, like a cherry on a cake, they take the landlord into circulation with checking lease agreements . If not enough, you can have a conversation with the suppliers of this bar.

[notingem]

What is the difference between a bar and a library? Public place. Stadium store theater ? Or are you from a sect of non-drinking non-smokers and sticking their nose into someone else's life?

[Postcode]

They did not let me in, referring to the military uniform, that is, they showed discrimination on professional grounds, thereby trying to discredit the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation performing tasks in the NVO zone. In the video, the bearded man refers to the fact that, apart from police officers, he will not let anyone in uniform? Will an employee of Rospotrebnadzor come in, won't let him in? An FSB officer will come in, won't let him in? An employee of the Federal Tax Service? .... personally, it seemed to me that his beard was strange, I would check him for wearing shorts, the length of his pants, I generally had a suspicion that working with alcohol, nevertheless, he preaches prohibited in the Russian Federation radical Islamic trends, if you try, in the stash and literature of this kind can be found, and elements of IEDs ... he behaved very strangely in relation to a representative of our valiant armed forces)))

[alekseykabanets]

Quote: Wend

We need to start a criminal case.

For what? For not allowing a person to dishonor a military uniform with drunkenness?

[Sergey Aleksandrovich]

And where do we have an official ban on visiting bars and clubs in uniform?

[alekseykabanets]

Quote: Sergey Alexandrovich

And where do we have an official ban on visiting bars and clubs in uniform?

I did not find any documents prohibiting the dishonoring of a military uniform by drunkenness. And what does that change? Now the "honor of the uniform" does not mean anything? Can "blue" in uniform walk?

[sadam2]

And why are you all fuming? This is a private institution and the owners have the right to create their own rules. Their dress codes are their order ... and this was written by the hostess in the docks. The security guard followed instructions.
Although I agree that trust and authority in the army has noticeably diminished ... but this is not a problem for the hostess of the bar

[Andrey Osipov_2]

You wrote everything correctly, But, the instructions of a private institution cannot violate the Legislation of the Russian Federation! And in the Legislation there are no restrictions on visiting public, public places (institutions) in uniform (military or other)! So for any administration, and then they wrote above ..... all services with a check, karachun bar (((

[suhorukofal]

I fully support! He owes the whole country, at his own expense, by the way, but if anything, ah-ta-ta, you can’t be an ordinary person.

[dmi.pris1]

It would be more correct to act differently. But if the owner is not a duck, but a normal citizen of his country. Tactfully ask if he drank a little, do not pour more. what can i drink in the form?

[Trapp1st]

Tactfully ask if you drank a little, do not pour more. Go change your clothes

It turned out even easier, they tactfully did not let him in. Go change

[Sergey Aleksandrovich]

It seems to me that you have a poor idea of ​​how modern business works in Russia. If a security guard exposes his photo in the form of either the Armed Forces of Ukraine or NATO, then it is unlikely that he was accepted as such without the approval of the owner of the establishment. It would be desirable to check everyone there, and the owner in particular.

[Mikhail Sidorov]

If a security guard exposes his photo in the form of either the Armed Forces of Ukraine or NATO, then it is unlikely that he was accepted as such without the approval of the owner of the establishment

You are right, there is something wrong with this bar. Need to figure it out.

[insafufa]

Well, the police can fill up with a check, what is the mobilized one doing there?

[insafufa]

I haven’t visited for 10 years, it will soon be an anniversary after the fact that understanding has come with every glass, the post-war trauma makes itself felt more and more. Alcohol does not bring calm and does not help to forget it makes a macaque out of you.

[Oleg Yurievich Krivoshein]

Quote: aleksejkabanets

For not allowing a person to dishonor a military uniform with drunkenness?

And why do you conclude that a man in military uniform came to the bar to get drunk? Maybe a cocktail, or just mineral water.

[alekseykabanets]

Quote: Oleg Yurievich Krivoshein

And why do you conclude that a man in military uniform came to the bar to get drunk? Maybe a cocktail, or just mineral water.

There is nothing for servicemen in uniform to hang around drinking establishments, even to sniff chamomile!

[restless]

In the Czech Republic, a military man in uniform is allowed to drink a mug of beer in any restaurant and no one calls it drunkenness ...

[Fat]

Quote: aleksejkabanets

Quote: Wend

We need to start a criminal case.

For what? For not allowing a person to dishonor a military uniform with drunkenness?

Very interesting And the police uniform, then you can "disgrace"?

[alekseykabanets]

Quote: Thick

Very interesting wassat And the police uniform, so you can "disgrace"?

The same applies to the police uniform, as well as the uniform of the guards, the FSB, etc. Only on official necessity.

[suhorukofal]

Forgive me for getting to the bottom of it. Do cowards-contract officers in the rear dishonor military uniforms, or are they heroes?

[Zoldat_A]

Quote: dmi.pris

It is indicative to close this "business". Others will bow down to the soldiers.

And after all, you can do it neatly, without politics. I know from my own experience - to incite a fire inspector or a sanitary and epidemiological station - that's all. There was no case that these guys left without a protocol. And at the point of public catering - they will close for once.
And I have not yet mentioned the financial audit or the tax audit - even a beggar with his mug should still remain there.

[ALARI]

Good laws in our country By law, you can close or ruin any business. Corruption has not been heard. Laws generally have a different function - to help, protect, put on an equal footing.

[Zoldat_A]

Quote: ALARI

Good laws in our country By law, you can close or ruin any business. Corruption has not been heard.

The fire inspector comes to my office once a year. He doesn’t even draw up an act on violations - he rewrites last year’s one, puts a new number and I pay 15 thousand as an official and I should also be grateful to him that he writes a fine on me as an official, and not a legal one.
He doesn’t even look at anything, because he knows that nothing has changed since last year, and he calls many of the requirements that I don’t fulfill, he himself calls stupid. The requirements are stupid and have remained since the 50s, but

Quote: ALARI

Laws generally have a different function - to help, protect, put on an equal footing.

So, it must be done. What I can, I do. I don’t light stoves in the office and I don’t use open fire (candles) for lighting.

What is interesting is that he does not require a penny for himself, the chief accountant pays for everything by bank transfer. There is no corruption in our country...

[solar]

The general director of Winter Cherry in Kemerovo also probably paid 15 thousand each when the fire inspector arrived. Sitting now for a long time. And you can't bring back children and adults :((

[Zoldat_A]

Quote from solar

The general director of Winter Cherry in Kemerovo also probably paid 15 thousand each when the fire inspector arrived. Sitting now for a long time.

For example, one of the points is the installation of fire doors.
I have my own site for the production of metal structures. Including, as an auxiliary production, we work on the manufacture of doors. Including fire-fighting, certified for compliance with GOST. Third party powder coating only. We have been manufacturing such things for eight years already - a significant plus in construction.
It was not in vain that I mentioned above that an honest inspector does not ask me for a penny in cash. But a couple of weeks before his visit and a couple of weeks after I hold a siege from companies besieging me with offers of such doors.
The presence of installed doors of his own production, as well as the availability of certificates of conformity, does not bother him - he calls all this amateur performance and handicraft. "Not handicraft" - this is in those firms that his bosses wrote to him on a piece of paper and which pester me with their proposals.

And so on all counts.

My father and I fought off bandits in the 90s, fought off officials for the entire first decade of the 2000s - and surrender to the fire inspector, who is not at all interested in fire safety as such?

I can't help but worry about the safety of my employees. That's why I have my own specially trained people in the offices and go around the facilities. And there is no desire to restore the office after the fire either.
To sue the Ministry of Emergency Situations for 15 thousand a year? I have a legal department and without it there is something to do.
That's why everything is the way it is.

[Romario_Argo]

and so what (?)
I was demobilized in 2002 in Moscow, too, they were not allowed to enter the Kukushka bar on Kuznetsky Most in camouflage
and how many such mummers walk all over the country - do not count (!)
after the demobilization, for another 2 years, I rode the subway for free on the military
There are no questions for the Club
- many customers don't like the "military" style - and they pay for it

[begemot20091]

so let them pay at the forefront of "love for the motherland." And the Motherland, probably, is different for us. This is a bar for rear wheel drive. The man probably didn't know. It's "zapadlo" for a normal man to go there. This bar is for lesbians and gays - and the sign needs to be updated.

[Sergey Aleksandrovich]

It's not 2002 now, it's military time, in the west of the country for sure. And if you allow the Ukrainian Nazis to establish order in their own rear, your deeds are bad, even if at the same time you hide behind morality and groan about how bad it is to drink beer for an adult.

[insafufa]

It is indicative to close this "business". Others will bow down to the soldiers.

You did the right thing, there is nothing to hang around the bars in uniform to engage in discrediting the Russian army. So there are a lot of videos on YouTube how our drunks in the form of a bast do not knit and cannot stand on their feet, they stagger and, in contrast, the Ukrainian brave soldiers, like ours, are taken captive in droves. there have been a lot of such videos in recent times with a disgusting Jewish melody. This is how our fighters are reduced to the state of cattle and non-humans, and we ourselves help the enemy. Correctly made how many videos how I thump mobilized instead of studying, then they just try to surrender.

BUT what upsets me is that this pretzel is posing in the form of the Armed Forces of Ukraine and he even has such an avatar in contact.

[Sergey Aleksandrovich]

This is where and when our mobilized people are just trying to surrender? You do not allow yourself too much in judgments?

[insafufa]

Well, recently, something has increased the reasons for such judgments. I still can’t move away from the two views where one gives up, the other undermines itself not wanting to give up, and here is a recent video where ours lie so evenly face down and how they were barred video is also there. So, there is something to be angry about.

[Sergey Aleksandrovich]

Something you are too generous with accusations scattered. The circumstances must be clarified in more detail before the motives for surrendering are attributed to everyone in a row.

[insafufa]

Something you are too generous with accusations scattered. Circumstances need to be clarified

Well we'll see what happens next.

[Oleg Yurievich Krivoshein]

Quote: insafufa

Well we'll see what happens next

Then you will watch fake videos and continue your judgments of who and how. Who will you be?

[insafufa]

Well, I have the experience of the second company where my friends at the outpost were slaughtered like sheep and alcohol was to blame.

12 boys

Of course, you won’t return them, but it’s all the fault of the desire to relax, for a start, then, as in that video, 4 militants, one of which was a zapodenets, come in and how the sheep are then slaughtered on camera. I have seen the horrors of the warrior without commercials, and I know for sure that alcohol on the front line must be fought as severely as desertion.
I was hurt by the fact that history repeated itself 20 years later, almost I don’t know for sure, only they were surrounded when everyone was sleeping or as a result of an unfortunate combination of circumstances.

[insafufa]

It infuriates me that there are a number of videos of how some surrender, others try to fight to the end, and the result is everywhere, one alone dies as a hero about whom they will compose songs, while others humbly lie down and die not like a military man, but like cowards without resisting. After this video, I could not come to my senses for a long time, and now everything is shaking. Of course, there are cases when pilots or the wounded are captured; this can be understood without a weekend. But when they just lie down and don't resist and wait to be blown away.

[Sergey Aleksandrovich]

But it is not necessary to attribute traitorous moods to all mobilized. Isn't the difference clear? And the circumstances of the incident must be clarified, the details are needed.

[Thompson]

Are you not allowing yourself too much? Did all 300000 do that?
I’m sitting in an armchair and I don’t judge everyone by two cases
BUT .... apparently you can see better from the sofa!

[Sergey Aleksandrovich]

The message is exactly to me, to the address, not mistaken?

[Thompson]

Of course not. Not to you. One point above to an uncomrade.
And your thoughts are the same

[insafufa]

Excuse me, please, not on the road

Well, I'm not right. I can admit it got excited and I can apologize. But the result is the same

https://lenta.ru/news/2022/11/22/draka/
The bar told about the incident with the mobilized because of the "bad youngsters"

This is how public opinion is formed, it is better not to hang around bars.

https://novostivolgograda.ru/news/2022-10-28/razgromili-kpp-mobilizovannye-izbili-kontraktnikov-iz-za-alkogolya-2267330 Разгромили КПП: мобилизованные избили контрактников из-за алкоголя

[Mikhail Sidorov]

It is indicative to close this "business".

There was a case in Crimea when they did not want to change the tires on a military truck in a car service. If I'm not mistaken, the "shop" was closed.

[insafufa]

This is a wine glass, and there was a service that really sabotaged and wrecked. These are different things. As our commander said to the booze soldiers in the bar, it’s a shame for the Motherland there is nothing to do there in uniform.

[credo]

Quote: dmi.pris

It is indicative to close this "business". Others will bow to the soldiers. Interesting, if this happened in Ukraine, what would happen to the owner of the institution? This is the question of the unity of society

Why cite Ukraine as an example. Is this a role model?

There was already a case in Moscow when a young officer in uniform was blocked from entering a restaurant. I don’t remember if the restaurant boorishness was punished, but it’s clear that it’s not good food and part of the restaurant business continues to behave inappropriately as before.

[dmi.pris1]

An example of how society operates in a war. Let it be with "wrapped brains." And like ours, with the right faces in the stands and people, a little lower from officials to owners of taverns holding a fig in their pocket.

[alekseykabanets]

When a volunteer in military uniform decided to visit this establishment, he was refused, citing the fact that, according to the rules, no one, except for police officers, could enter the bar in uniform.

In uniform at the bar? And what is possible? Now you can drink vodka in a bar in uniform? When I served, they would have slapped "incomplete service compliance" for this. A policeman in uniform can enter a bar only on official business, and nothing else. Have the laws really changed? Should we add drunken soldiers and policemen to drunken civilians?

[Woodman]

Quote: aleksejkabanets

Now you can drink vodka in a bar in uniform? When I served, they would have slapped "incomplete service compliance" for this.

And since when was the decision of such issues shifted to the employees of pubs and other establishments?

[alekseykabanets]

Quote: Lesovik

And since when was the decision of such issues shifted to the employees of pubs and other establishments?

"This question" was to be decided by the serviceman himself! Take off your uniform and go have fun. The fact that he was tactfully not allowed in the "institution" does only honor to the owner of the institution. He did not allow the serviceman to tarnish the honor of his uniform!

[Woodman]

Quote: aleksejkabanets

Take off your uniform and go have fun.

Those. Do you agree that the bar employee had no right to keep him out? And in this institution there is quite a varied menu - now I specially looked. Salads, soups, roasts, fish. So suspecting a military man of wanting to get drunk is not entirely fair.
I already wrote a comment here, but I’ll quote for you so that you don’t look: “Judging by the comment after the video, the volunteers have not “returned”, but are only preparing to be sent (quote: I don’t have civilian clothes, because I’m going to the front the other day ) That is, it is not even a fact that the volunteer comes from Saratov.
I don't know if the link will stick or not, but I'll try: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=voh3C-W3tP0&t=76s"

Quote: aleksejkabanets

He did not allow the serviceman to tarnish the honor of his uniform!

Well, or "didn't allow the serviceman" to have a normal lunch, after state-owned grubs, which he may have to eat for more than one month.

[alekseykabanets]

Quote: Lesovik

Well, or "didn't allow the serviceman" to have a normal lunch, after state-owned grubs, which he may have to eat for more than one month.

There is nothing for servicemen in uniform to hang around drinking establishments, even to sniff chamomile!

[RGB]

I agree, I never went to bars in uniform, I always changed into civilian clothes. I think that fermenting in uniform is a complete lack of respect for the army.

[Sergey Aleksandrovich]

And in our yard, a veteran of the Great Patriotic War with the Order of the Red Star every May 9th got drunk and lay unconscious right at the entrance with the order. But somehow there was no one who wanted to reproach him for any disrespect.

[alekseykabanets]

Quote: Sergey Alexandrovich

And in our yard, a veteran of the Great Patriotic War with the Order of the Red Star every May 9th got drunk and lay unconscious right at the entrance with the order. But somehow there was no one who wanted to reproach him for any disrespect.

At least there were those who wanted to take him home? And that this veteran active serviceman of the Armed Forces and in uniform got drunk?

[Sergey Aleksandrovich]

Of course, he was not an active military man, but there was no tragedy in his drinking on holidays and no one saw moral violations
.

[alekseykabanets]

Quote: Sergey Alexandrovich

Of course, he was not an active duty soldier.

That is the difference.

[Havoc]

Quote: aleksejkabanets

When a volunteer in military uniform decided to visit this establishment, he was refused, citing the fact that, according to the rules, no one, except for police officers, could enter the bar in uniform.

In uniform at the bar? And what is possible? Now you can drink vodka in a bar in uniform? When I served, they would have slapped "incomplete service compliance" for this. A policeman in uniform can enter a bar only on official business, and nothing else. Have the laws really changed? Should we add drunken soldiers and policemen to drunken civilians?

You do not confuse people, drinking alcohol is not allowed, sitting in a bar and drinking coffee is a problem or just a snack. Where did you read that the soldier went to the bar to drink alcohol.

[alekseykabanets]

Quote: Havoc

Where did you read that the soldier went to the bar to drink alcohol.

Maybe smell chamomile? Nothing to give a soldier in uniform in a drinking establishment, that's it, period!

[Gardamir]

It is indicative to close this "business"

Why is everyone so excited here? How about businessmen. who drive gas and oil through Ukraine. Nobody closes them. Nobody closes Abramovich. Himars are shooting at our fighters, and someone is supplying strategic goods to the sesheu.
And on the other hand, what kind of warrior dreams of getting drunk in uniform?

[Galleon]

I'll put an end to the question. Or rather, not me, but Generalissimo A.V. Suvorov
“The lower ranks do not forbid wine and other things to drink, but not in a tavern, where, except for the fact that there are quarrels and fights, and a military person happens to be mixed into them; at least through the communication of tamo with vile people, he can get used to vile deeds, speeches and tricks and lose his excellentness from them. Why, having entered the tavern and bought beer or wine, immediately go out of it and drink it with the artel or alone in the camp or in the apartment, however, and thus enter the tavern with the permission of your boss. “- Alexander Vasilyevich Suvorov

[Alien From]

Galleon, regards! golden quote!

[Galleon]

This is an excerpt from the order for the regiment, when Alexander Vasilyevich was still in command of the regiment. Which one: Astrakhan or Suzdal, I do not know.

[Sfurei]

And what now in the form you can walk around the bars and drink? The dude on the video said that "..came to drink beer..".. That is. did he have to bring it? For all legal and cultural reasons, this boozer was rightly not allowed into the bar!!

[Woodman]

Quote: Sfurei

The dude on the video said that "..came to drink beer..".

Can you link to the video and at what second did the "dude" say so? And then on the video I heard only such a phrase (literally): "I want to come in and relax."

[Sfurei]

27-28 seconds of the full video, at the moment when he films himself. Quote: "... I'm heading to the NWO. I came to drink beer ...." https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nUTbtxJKSyA

[Krasnoyarsk]

Quote: Sfurei

And what now in the form you can walk around the bars and drink?

Do you go to a bar just to "thump"? And here I am in order to sit with a friend in a cozy atmosphere, talk, drink a glass of beer, it never fit me again, take a break from the hustle and bustle.
This, as you said - "dude" - an adult man, was on legal dismissal, why does he not have the right to drink a glass of beer? Why, a priori, did you write him down as drunks?
Usually, repeatedly humiliated, they themselves try to humiliate or insult anyone. You, for an hour, your wife does not beat with a slipper?
In your opinion, you can’t go to a bar in uniform, but you can go to the toilet, and to the cinema, and to the kindergarten, to pick up the child, and to the hospital, to visit a friend?

[Krasnoyarsk]

Quote: dmi.pris

It is indicative to close this "business"

As for closing - I don't know if there are such mechanisms. But you can terminate the lease agreement for the premises.
= According to him, those responsible for the fact that the CWO volunteer was not allowed into the bar should at least apologize to this guy. =
And it's all?!! No, that will not do. 1. Who gave him the right to set the rules for visiting the bar?
After all, this is a public institution and the rules for them are the same.
2. Why is the name of the bar not in Russian? I have already raised this issue on the site, I got busted. Hello, citizens of Russia, take a look around, there are only Anglicisms all around. And then we are surprised at the number of people who fled over the hill with the beginning of mobilization. Isn't it time to start respecting the language of your ancestors?

[Trapp1st]

When a volunteer in military uniform decided to visit this establishment, he was refused

If you want to drink, take off your uniform.

[Alien From]

That's right, it's not worth speculating!

[2 Level Advisor]

of course, it’s not a matter of not letting them in because of the uniform, but it’s also not a matter of walking in a uniform. the military went to restaurants, then not in the "vole" ..

[Trapp1st]

do not let because of the form is not the case of course

They may not let you in even because of maccasins instead of shoes, the dress code is the prerogative of the institution, but the fact is that it’s not right to plump in uniform anyway.

[Sergey Aleksandrovich]

I want to take you back a little. I did not witness those long-standing events and relatives did not talk about this. But we can see the display in films about the Great Patriotic War.
In the film Stalingrad 1989 46 minutes, in a cafe, military men in uniform drinking bottles of champagne. The film "The meeting place cannot be changed", the military in uniform, like pilots, celebrate something in the Astoria restaurant before the episode with the capture of Fox.
It was not earlier something weekly, indecent, but it was a common thing.
Have we, perhaps, morality since then so risen to unprecedented heights that we, or you, have suddenly become so scrupulous?

[Lara Croft]

Quote: Trapp1st

dress code is the prerogative of the institution,

What regulation is this?
This is primarily a public catering enterprise, a sign over a drinking establishment is a public offer, which the owner of a drinking establishment cannot refuse and is obliged to provide a full range of services to EVERYONE, except in cases provided for, for example, by the Consumer Rights Protection Law, for this the state issued him a permit / license....
The fact that a friend was not allowed into a drinking establishment is a civil and administrative liability, the owners violated the rights of an unlimited circle of persons, tk. there can be no restrictions for visiting this institution in nature ....

[Havoc]

Quote: Lara Croft

Quote: Trapp1st

dress code is the prerogative of the institution,

What regulation is this?
This is primarily a public catering enterprise, a sign over a drinking establishment is a public offer, which the owner of a drinking establishment cannot refuse and is obliged to provide a full range of services to EVERYONE, except in cases provided for, for example, by the Consumer Rights Protection Law, for this the state issued him a permit / license....
The fact that a friend was not allowed into a drinking establishment is a civil and administrative liability, the owners violated the rights of an unlimited circle of persons, tk. there can be no restrictions for visiting this institution in nature ....

Not only that, why everyone here decided that the serviceman went to this bar just to drink, I don’t understand what he was in field uniform, it’s not prohibited by law, here the very fact of not being allowed into the bar, but if he behaved it’s not necessary in bar, call the police.

[Sfurei]

Maybe watch the video before commenting? He said on the video: ".. I came to drink beer! .."

[Sarboz]

Quote: Trapp1st

do not let because of the form is not the case of course

They may not let you in even because of maccasins instead of shoes, the dress code is the prerogative of the institution, but the fact is that it’s not right to plump in uniform anyway.

Curious, but dress codes are against all laws. This is a violation of consumer rights. And in fact, discrimination of people on certain grounds.

[Mikhail Sidorov]

not letting them in because of the uniform is not a matter of course, but going to drink in uniform is also not the case

And who said that he just came to thump? Did he manage to order a liter of vodka from the entrance? Maybe come to eat.

[Sfurei]

He said on the video: ".. I came to drink beer! .."

[Mikhail Sidorov]

He said on the video: ".. I came to drink beer! .."

Did not watch. If in the form, then of course it is not necessary. Get dressed and rest.

[Lara Croft]

Quote: Sfurei

He said on the video: ".. I came to drink beer! .."

They didn’t even have to refuse him the sale of vodka, the fact that he would be drunk is his problem and not the institution ....

[Sfurei]

So let him go and buy vodka and get drunk in his doorway, and not show off that I am mobilized, so let me thump. And the institution has the legal right to refuse anyone access to the institution and not explain the reasons. Or is it prohibited by some law? Correctly written below - if you want to plump, take off the form !!

[Lara Croft]

Quote: Sfurei

And the institution has the legal right to refuse anyone access to the institution and not explain the reasons. Or is it prohibited by some law?

Exactly.

Civil Code of the Russian Federation Article 426. Public contract

https://www.consultant.ru/document/cons_doc_LAW_5142/5b4886fd41d95bd272f7a06c75e26762630ac683/

[Sfurei]

Stop crying and pitying the mobilized, who wanted to swell in uniform. And at the bar at the entrance there are several signs that are part of the "public agreement / offer" that they are not allowed into the bar until they are 21 years old and that they may not be allowed into the institution without explaining the reasons. Which is also a PUBLIC CONTRACT!! What do you dispute?

[Lara Croft]

Quote: Sfurei

feel sorry for the mobilized

and who will forbid you?

And at the bar at the entrance there are several signs that are part of the "public agreement / offer" that they are not allowed into the bar until they are 21 years old and that they may not be allowed into the institution without explaining the reasons.

at the bar, they can write anything on the signs, until someone turns to the prosecutor's office and Rospotrebnadzor ....

What do you dispute?

Study the Code of Administrative Offenses of the Russian Federation, the Civil Code of the Russian Federation 1 and 2 parts, the Law on the Protection of Consumer Rights, the rules of trade and the provision of services, then come, but for now go run, that I am obliged to conduct an educational program for every hydrocephalus on the basics of trade and civil legislation of the Russian Federation .....? As the saying goes - "they took away from the poor lackeys" ....
After your last comment, I immediately wanted to read Bulgakov or Saltykov-Shchedrin ...

[Sfurei]

Study the charter of the Armed Forces of the Ministry of Defense .. Everything is written there, what is possible for a soldier and what is not. And about the legal grounds to let or not write a book. You are so smart! Or not! You yourself sue them .. defending the poor man who did not drink. And then you will show yourself in full glory!

[Lara Croft]

Quote: Sfurei

Study the charter of the Armed Forces of the Moscow Region ..

So he was not in the service, as I understand it, what does the Charter have to do with it, but if he violated some norms of law while drinking or just wanted to violate them, then this in no way begs the violation of the rights of an indefinite circle of persons by the PABA administration and it must answer according to law...

You yourself sue them .. defending the poor man who did not drink.

Provide a list right away, for whom in this country should I file what?
The person who was not allowed into the PAB performs the functions of those who did not cope with their functions despite the preferential mortgage and the large average salary in the country with a bunch of benefits, now you are offering me to perform the function of the prosecutor's office and Rospotrebnadzor to protect the one who performs work for the Armed Forces RF and RG .... because the latter could not cope with their highly paid work ...

[Sfurei]

Charter of the internal service of the RF Ministry of Defense On military courtesy and behavior of military personnel: excerpt from. paragraph 72: ... Appearing on the streets, in squares, parks, public vehicles, other public places in a state of intoxication is a disciplinary offense that dishonors the honor and dignity of a serviceman ...". If you didn’t know this, then probably the insignia on the avatar is the only thing that unites you with the army.
And as for the PAB and their responsibility, this is a commercial institution that has the right to establish any rules on its territory that do not contradict the laws of the Russian Federation, and this will be a Public Offer. Those. if they establish that they feed and water only bald people or only policemen or only women with dogs, then this is their personal right. Because this is a private establishment! And then you will come to the point that a dude with a machine gun or an ax was not allowed into the bar - this is a violation of the rights of people with axes (ZHLTV - the life of people with axes is important!). So, regarding the understanding of the legislation, the question is also for you: how familiar are you with the legal system?

[Lara Croft]

Quote: Sfurei

Charter of the internal service of the RF Ministry of Defense On military courtesy and behavior of military personnel: excerpt from. paragraph 72: ... Appearing on the streets, in squares, parks, public vehicles, other public places in a state of intoxication is a disciplinary offense that dishonors the honor and dignity of a serviceman ...". If you didn’t know this, then probably the insignia on the avatar is the only thing that unites you with the army.
And as for the PAB and their responsibility, this is a commercial institution that has the right to establish any rules on its territory that do not contradict the laws of the Russian Federation, and this will be a Public Offer. Those. if they establish that they feed and water only bald people or only policemen or only women with dogs, then this is their personal right. Because this is a private establishment! And then you will come to the point that a dude with a machine gun or an ax was not allowed into the bar - this is a violation of the rights of people with axes (ZHLTV - the life of people with axes is important!). So, regarding the understanding of the legislation, the question is also for you: how familiar are you with the legal system?

Dear, stop trolling for the second day, especially during working hours, I wrote to you yesterday to study the mat. some of the rules of law on the basis of which this PAB operates, you did not heed my advice, but stupidly salivate, come to any store or cafe, find a consumer corner and study the Consumer Rights Protection Law and Trade Rules located there, they are small in volume , there you will read everything ....

[Sfurei]

So I thought there was no answer. Sofa critics without a military education talk about military topics. Success ..

[Lara Croft]

Quote: Sfurei

military topics are discussed.

So I talk about consumer rights, and not about military topics ....
And the topic of the article is a violation of the rights of the consumer, in this case the military ... and you all just want to insert military law out of place ....

[suhorukofal]

So you are rightly told that you must comply with the law. That he walked into a bar doesn't say he was drunk in rags. Why did they refuse to enter in the form of a public catering establishment?

[credo]

Quote: Trapp1st

When a volunteer in military uniform decided to visit this establishment, he was refused

If you want to drink, take off your uniform.

Are you sure it's okay for bar staff to behave like that?
And what about the fact that the captain of a civilian aircraft, a representative of the forestry or the Ministry of Foreign Affairs in uniform will enter the bar? Where is it written that the bar is an institution for people in civilian clothes?

[Evil 55]

And you look at the boys who arrived from the NWO? Do they have a lot of civilian rags for changing clothes?

[2 Level Advisor]

don’t exaggerate, Evgeny .. they went from home to the NWO, where did things go from home in 9 months? Saratov, far from Ukraine, obviously people came home, and not to "Rostov" for a weekend vacation ..

[Evil 55]

9 months for a rag is too long a time for an SVO ... You see, everything burns when it hits a car, and the whole shmurdyak of the unit is at once .. That's why it turns out that you live only in what you were wearing at that moment. Well, you trophy what and how you can.

[your1970]

Quote: Evil 55

9 months for a rag is too long a time for an SVO ... You see, everything burns when it hits a car, and the whole shmurdyak of the unit is at once .. That's why it turns out that you live only in what you were wearing at that moment. Well, you trophy what and how you can.

What did you drag the unit's shmurdyak to? HOME he returned to Saratov, he left here for the NWO !!!

[Mikhail Sidorov]

What did you drag the unit’s shmurdyak to? He returned HOME to Saratov, he left from here to the NWO !!!

Further, only apparently (after shmurdyak) about trophy toilet bowls.

[Woodman]

Quote: Level 2 Advisor

Well, we didn’t go from home to the NWO, where did things go from home in 9 months?

Judging by the comment after the video, the volunteers have not “returned”, but are only getting ready to leave (quote: I don’t have civilian clothes, because I’m going to the front one of these days). Those. not even the fact that the volunteer comes from Saratov.
I don’t know if the link will stick or not, but I’ll try: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=voh3C-W3tP0&t=76s

[Vend]

Quote: Trapp1st

When a volunteer in military uniform decided to visit this establishment, he was refused

If you want to drink, take off your uniform.

And where did you get the idea that he went there to thump?

[Sfurei]

Because the first phrase from this mobilized video: ".. I came to drink beer!!..."

[Vend]

Quote: Sfurei

Because the first phrase from this mobilized video: ".. I came to drink beer!!..."

My classmate likes to drink a bottle of beer in the evenings, that he thumps and is an alcoholic? Everyone draws a conclusion according to their own standards.

[Sfurei]

Just don’t breed pity here ... You can’t drink in uniform - this is an axiom and a law. And in civilian life, drink at least an anti-freeze .. At the front, the main problem is such lovers of one bottle and then they can’t be stopped!

[Alexey RA]

Quote: Wend

And where did you get the idea that he went there to thump?

To an Irish pub?

If the warden is drinking tea, stop. There were signals: he was not drinking tea there. In such an acceptance.

© ABS. PNvS.

[Mikhail Sidorov]

To an Irish pub?

I haven't had a drink in a year and a half. I understand the entrance to the Irish brasserie is closed by your logic. What if I have a date with someone?

[Lara Croft]

Quote: Alexey RA

To an Irish pub?

Do you think they will not pour cocoa there?

[al3x]

Well, the situation is twofold, in some establishments there is such a thing: a dress code. Where is this video?

[Evil 55]

Was this bearded monkey exactly according to the dress code?

[al3x]

I don’t watch the video in the article, I’m guided only by the text.

[Evil 55]

There is in the Telega, be curious ...

[Poru4ik]

And what to do with these?
Russian officials donated towels to the mothers of soldiers who died in the Northern Military District
The head of the Lgovsky district of the Kursk region, Sergei Korostelev, met with the mothers of servicemen who died in the special military operation zone (SVO), and handed them towels as a gift. The Russian official posted the corresponding post on his page on VKontakte.
“On the eve of the celebration of Mother’s Day, I met with the mothers of the dead servicemen who participated in a special military operation,” Korostelev wrote.
The published photos show gifts received by mothers from the head of the district. In particular, there are sets of towels and postcards.
Earlier, Russian President Vladimir Putin addressed the mothers of servicemen. According to him, the authorities share the pain of loss with those who lost their sons during the fighting.
On February 24, Vladimir Putin announced the start of a special operation in the Donbass. Thus, according to him, Moscow responded to requests for military assistance from the heads of the Donetsk and Luhansk People's Republics (DNR and LNR).

[rusmor55]

And nothing will happen to the owner, like he will apologize, give on the "paw" and will smirk. Now, if people block the entrance, throw eggs, the media will show it all, then something else can come out!

[Lara Croft]

Quote from: rusmor55

Now, if people block the entrance, throw eggs, it will all be shown in the media, then something else can come out!

When was the last time you saw it, will you lead the people or did you write it for the sake of +++?

will give on the "paw" and will smirk

His business plan includes expenses for the “paw” in advance, it’s just that these expenses will be from the contingency expenses item ...
so that the owner himself will not be sent and will grin while he "gives a paw" ...

[opposite28]

I read the news that a volunteer was not allowed into one of the institutions of the city because he was in military uniform. If the information is confirmed, then this is a very shameful case for our city. It is unacceptable. This is a betrayal of our military and those killed in the Donbass. Let whoever did this look their mothers in the eyes. In the meantime, I will make a request to law enforcement agencies and Rospotrebnadzor. We must not turn a blind eye to this.

This incident requires a detailed investigation, otherwise the next time a grenade will fly into the bars first, as when cleaning up the next room, and then the personnel of the cleaning group.

[Uprun]

Double feeling. A bar, in fact, a drinking establishment, few people would think of going there for a bite to eat ... In Soviet times, it was not welcome for officers to visit drinking establishments in uniform, about the rank and file is understandable. What prevented a soldier from buying alcohol in a store and then already ... or just in civilian life ....., but at least to a strip club.

[kor1vet1974]

Such boorish treatment should not take place in relation to the participants of the NWO

And the rest, you can be rude, along the way ..

[Boniface]

+ it was necessary to give these dudes from the bar according to the AGENDA, so it would be fairer for others

[APASUS]

I think this bar is too privileged? Maybe he will be visited by a sanitary inspection or a tax one .............. it reached insanity. All the staff were built in the morning and to the front, in a place with the owners.

[Sergey Aleksandrovich]

Unclear. There is also Article 282, where it is about humiliation due to belonging to a social group, here about a serviceman. There, part 2, point b) by a person using his official position.
I don’t understand such subtleties, but it seems to me that the competent authorities should intervene and initiate a case. Otherwise, supporters of Ukrainian Nazism will be able to evade responsibility.

[2 Level Advisor]

and a drunk soldier does not discredit the army? and not to let the military go anywhere he wanted, discredit? and where did you get the idea that he was a military man at all? he is a volunteer and equated to the military .. and why, having arrived home, go to the bars in uniform, show off to bend? 282 here, if desired, you can just "pull" it .. in fact, it is not here ..

[Sergey Aleksandrovich]

Was he drunk? Do you want to know my opinion about the 282nd? Please. It just needs to be "stretched" or "pulled", in legal terms, as you please. So that it would be disrespectful to others, otherwise it was the second case that received publicity. Ukrainian Nazis finally unbelted themselves, and moralists argue, oh, what will happen if he gets drunk!

[2 Level Advisor]

Quote: Sergey Alexandrovich

It just needs to be "stretched" or "pulled", in legal terms, as you please.

the law should not be "stretched" somewhere, it must be strictly observed with the norms. side works .. what kind of idea is it in general, for the fact that roofing felts are in / sl, or a volunteer - the bar was not allowed to swell in uniform - a criminal case? and tomorrow for the fact that on the road or in the queue somewhere they didn’t miss the case, will it start? good thing you're not a follower..

Quote: Sergey Alexandrovich

moralists argue, oh, what will happen if he gets drunk!

he will violate the requirements of the charter of the internal service, article 72 - if he drinks alcohol in a public place .. for this, before the SVO, many were fired ..

[Rustic]

he will violate the requirements of the charter of the internal service, article 72 - if he drinks alcohol in a public place .. for this, before the SVO, many were fired ..

Then the owner and all the staff of the bar, at the exit, pack under the article rape. Coming out, they can rape someone, all - plant. And the fact that they have not done anything yet, and what difference does it make, they could be guilty.

[Mikhail Sidorov]

and a drunk soldier does not discredit the army?

discredits

and not to let the military go anywhere he wanted, discredit?

no, it's not a discredit. Candy flowers, persuasion to help. (about women)

he is a volunteer and equated to military personnel .. and why, having arrived home, go to bars in a show-off uniform to bend

You can walk around the city in uniform with your head held high, but you should not go to a bar with the goal of having a drink. Ponty to bend in a drunken state, all the more.

[Galleon]

The use of alcoholic beverages by military personnel is prohibited. Yes, what is there: a military man is forbidden to smoke on the move, and the head of the patrol, who is familiar with military culture, can make a remark to you.
What should a soldier or officer in uniform do in a bar? There is no need to turn the establishment into a stable. Go change your clothes and come sit, drink a beer, rest. What is the bar uniform for? And if you get drunk, in shape? What if you screw up? A doubly disgusting sight.
Gentlemen and comrades, officers and shpaks, this case is not from the negative NWO, this case is from the section of culture. Of course, the event began to escalate, but it is completely in vain.
You don't have to be in uniform at the bar. And those who do not understand this need to be explained. Leaders must clarify.

[ivan_zaitcew]

What caused the uproar? They did not let him in, not because he was a volunteer, but because he was in camouflage. That's right, in some establishments there are similar dress codes and all visitors are required to comply with them.

[Sergey Aleksandrovich]

And have the courage to write an appropriate announcement at the entrance of your institution regarding visits by military personnel in uniform, in the spirit of the 50s as in the USA: "Entrance to dogs and blacks is prohibited!"

[ivan_zaitcew]

Enough. Only not to "servicemen in uniform", but simply to "visitors in uniform". Dress code has nothing to do with segregation.

[Rustic]

That's right, in some establishments there are similar dress codes and all visitors are required to comply with them.

How about not letting anyone out of these establishments into the street ... Well, let's say without the dido on the forehead. And figli, the same dress code.

[ivan_zaitcew]

Do you guys know what a "dress code" is? Maybe in your wet dreams everyone walks around with a dildo on their forehead, but this is not a dress code at all.

[Rustic]

Well, tell me what is the difference between the dress code, especially depending on the place, not the event. Especially in relation to public places.

[vlad2000]

it's just funny to read the comments about punishing the owner of the bar, handing the agenda ........ what country and leadership are you and related to those who have no money. It may be worth handing the agenda to the children of all ministers, from regional governments to the very top And at the same time the children of all the deputies, employees of the administrations up to you know whose, and at the same time the children of the leadership of all state concerns and monopolies? and I assure you that, firstly, in a fabulous way, there will suddenly be bulletproof vests, helmets, socks, and other crap that volunteers collect. they dared to beat for 9 months and they still don’t beat her because she belongs to the fathers of the mothers of these sons. Well, thirdly, everywhere and at any time they will be allowed into any bar and restaurant and into a shawarma stall, because they will know that they will run into a son with a powerful you can be a daddy at any time. And they will tear up anyone who offended a son or daughter who gave two days of precious life for their homeland)))

[Ponimatel]

Quote: Mikhail Sidorov

There was a case in Crimea when they did not want to change the tires on a military truck in a car service. If I'm not mistaken, the "shop" was closed.

I confirm. Covered up. The owner demolished the illegal building.

[Anton Limonov]

If they can’t let them in, there’s face control, this “volunteer” himself brings a split into society and wins for the potheads - they won’t let him in even drunk, no need to yell “smart I fought”, there are a lot more questions for him

[Sergey Aleksandrovich]

What kind of split does a volunteer bring into society? And if he fought, then he can declare it, your permission is not required for this.

[Anton Limonov]

Creating such an informational occasion, for example, I think that the entrance should be on a common basis, you think that he was infringed, here are the disagreements, we are waiting for news - the volunteer was not allowed into the women's locker room because he fought

[Ponimatel]

Quote: Trapp1st

If you want to drink, take off your uniform.

Can you eat in uniform? And to accept a glass without humiliating human dignity and without offending the form?

[Alexey RA]

Quote from Ponimatel

Can you eat in uniform?

A must in an Irish brasserie?
You can, if you want to get to know the service of the local commandant's office.

[Woodman]

Quote: Alexey RA

A must in an Irish brasserie?

And take a look at their menu. They have everything on the menu from salads and soups to roasts and fish.

[Uprun]

You can also eat at "Cheburechnaya" and "Pirozhkova", as a rule, there you can buy a glass of beer with food without causing negativity ... and no one will judge ...

[2 Level Advisor]

and you yourself, go to a bar or a cafe / restaurant to eat and drink a glass? go to the bar to drink - 99% of the population ..
Bar (English bar) - a public catering enterprise equipped with a bar counter and selling, depending on the specialization, alcoholic and (or) non-alcoholic drinks, hot and soft drinks, cocktails, cold and hot snacks and dishes in limited assortment, purchased goods. those. just to eat - normal people don't go to a bar ..

[Mikhail Sidorov]

and you yourself, go to a bar or a cafe / restaurant to eat and drink a glass? go to the bar to drink - 99% of the population ..

Well, I talked with my former classmates, we were sitting in a cafe. They drank, I didn't. Now I don't drink.

[Sfurei]

I even feel like they will pour me on the fifth day, but I think that a military man in uniform has nothing to do in a bar !!! There has ALWAYS been and is a ban on being in a pub or a nightclub in uniform, so as not to discredit the military. And this mobilized type, in a non-military uniform (military jacket + sports jacket) directly says that ".. I came to drink beer! .."
Aw what a beer in shape!! There is nothing more to write and I think!!

[Sergey Aleksandrovich]

And where is the ban on visiting drinking establishments in the form prescribed? You are already the second person who mentions such a ban, but does not confirm it with documents.

[Sfurei]

Charter of the Armed Forces of the Ministry of Defense On military courtesy and behavior of military personnel: an excerpt from. paragraph 72: ... Appearing on the streets, in squares, parks, public vehicles, and other public places in a state of intoxication is a disciplinary offense that dishonors the honor and dignity of a serviceman ..."

[Sergey Aleksandrovich]

Did he appear in a state of intoxication? They just didn't let him in.
You are trying to impute something that was not there.

[Sfurei]

Are you delusional? He himself said on the video that he had come ".. to drink beer .." . Those. is going to deliberately violate the established rules and laws for a soldier!

[Sergey Aleksandrovich]

I won't even comment on this. I consider it below my dignity to associate with individuals like yours.

[perun1988]

Is there no non-alcoholic beer in nature?

[Uprun]

From a distance, you can immediately see the serviceman ..., since he asks such questions.

[Sergey Aleksandrovich]

I know well what patrols are, they did more harm than good. When I walked through the villages, through the back streets, in a pea coat, I didn’t see them. But if in the city in parade, they spoil the mood here, then they have a long haircut, then an overcoat with a yellowish tinge. Even Rezun (that is, who illegally adopted the pseudonym Suvorov) did not forget to mention them in his opus, so to speak, he took them to the quick.

[2 Level Advisor]

Article 72, Chapter 2 of the Charter of the Internal Service of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation "Appearing on the streets, in squares, parks, public vehicles, and other public places in a state of intoxication is a disciplinary offense that dishonors the honor and dignity of a serviceman." The state of intoxication is when the body contains alcohol. He himself says on the video - drink beer.

[Rustic]

And this mobilized type, in a non-military uniform (military jacket + sports jacket) directly says that ".. I came to drink beer! .."

How under-war and under-mobilization, such under-form of the under-war. Or is something that does not suit you in this, and do you have something against the authorities of the Russian Federation?

[Two]

Plain liberalism! Saratov (Zasratov) was originally a rotten town...

[Oleg Yurievich Krivoshein]

Quote: Dos

Saratov (Zasratov) was originally a rotten town...

Have you been to Saratov? I don't know where you're from.

[Two]

More classics mentioned! In 1978, he went to the station square (the train stopped for a long time) and was amazed by the estimator from used travel coupons, husks from seeds! In 1981, I walked deep into Lenin Street (now Moskovskaya Street). It was drizzling, the sidewalk was covered with a film of sticky mud. There was also enough garbage. Cadets-pilots and cadets of the Ministry of Internal Affairs unanimously kneaded this muck while running in the morning exercises, around their schools. Only "winter asphalt" hid this disgrace. There were a lot of military men in the city, but they were not initially set up for smiles and good communication.

[VladimirNET]

Quote: credo

Why cite Ukraine as an example. Is this a role model?

And no one ukrovsky "genocide against people" (by language or nationality) - and does not lead here. Our military SHOULD be respected, and the denial of service to the military is now drawn to betrayal. What is more important to us - our man, who defends his country, or a certain "businessman"?
There is just a question of justice, and this is the term of our country.

[evgen1221]

And the dude's religion didn't let him change his clothes before going out drinking. But what about the shame of uniforms in the army, or is it different now with us?

[Basil 1985]

So he's not from the army! And the uniform will look beautiful in front of the girls! That's right, they didn't let me in!

[Basil 1985]

Volunteers of course well done, no options. But they don’t let you into normal places even in sneakers, let alone in uniform. Or did he not have normal clothes? What kind of nonsense is that?

[maxvlm]

To oblige the institution to serve all visitors in military uniform at the expense of the bar throughout the entire time of the SVO

[for]

Maybe it's good that they didn't let me in, maybe they saved it someone (or his or his visitors) from prison, saved health and life.

[for]

Not let in

volunteer

to a bar in Saratov urged to apologize to him

Maybe you should be more modest.

[nikniknik]

in a bar for people in military uniform, whether it be a volunteer, a contract worker, a mobilized, a participant is not a participant, there is nothing to do. Bar drinking establishment. I declare this responsibly as a person who has had a certain length of service and is directly related to the service

[Prisoner]

In this case, you should know that the Charter of the Internal Service and the Rules for Wearing do not prohibit "gentlemen", warrant officers, military personnel of long-term service from visiting entertainment establishments off-duty in military uniform. Although I am a supporter of what would have fun in a civilian, so as not to cause ambiguous emotions among the civilian population.

[nikniknik]

in addition to the Charter and the Rules, there are also by-laws, internal departmental regulations, respected. You can't write everything in one document. Military service is a special type of civil service, where there are some additional restrictions and benefits that civilians do not have. such restrictions and advantages exist in all law enforcement agencies based on their type and goals. I will say this "military" is a person who has a special status, unlike civilians. To do this, you need to know not only the fundamental document. For clarity, I exaggerately explain to some: the Constitution is the main law, but this does not mean that there are no other laws. you need to know the kitchen from the inside, and not be based on the food served by the kitchen on a plate

[Petr_Koldunov]

I'm embarrassed to clarify ... what kind of law is this, which allows only police officers to enter a public catering establishment in uniform?
Here it is not necessary to call for apologies - but much stricter, up to criminal liability (Article 330 of the Criminal Code of the Russian Federation, for example ...)

[Raccoon Raccoon]

If you are going to thump in the form, then thump in a circle of people in the same form. And it is better to remove the form before piercing.

[Prisoner]

Nagadil- apologized and "chopped cabbage" further? Not fair! On the other hand, I agree with Raccoon. Wandering around bars and restaurants in military uniform is not gut. Tea is not a royal regime. If you really hussar, then in a narrow "hussar" circle. In general, the nuances of the incident must first be sorted out.

[AdAstra]

And why was the kipezh bred? Here we hang memorial plaques to Mannerheim and erect monuments to Krasnov, for which (according to the monument) the authorities have an excuse like "private territory", and this bar is the same private shop.

[Prisoner]

They don't hang anymore. Removed a long time ago and painted over the place. The information is outdated.

[Prisoner]

Here come the nuances. Our guy quite sensibly explained to the bar cattle that he was wrong. But this scum did not heed. Let's hope that adequate residents will make it clear to this tavern that he was very wrong. And government agencies are still polishing the goat-beard from above.

[hector]

It is from such moments that it begins - "We, you, were not sent there." And it will happen more and more often.

[valera75]

Quote: zloybond

They made a remark to him, he went to write to the Human Rights Council.

Are you sure that he wrote something somewhere? You can link to his statement to the authorities or Rospotrebnadzor, but at least where.

[Pavel Pavlovskiy]

I failed. Face dress code.
Che walk in uniform, change clothes and you will be fed with sweets and drink Dalut. The insanity is getting stronger. News is presented. All the Heroes were not allowed to thump. Shame on such articles and boil

[Serge]

It is necessary to apologize and also to free visits and services for a year to him and his entire family.

[Alexfly]

Have they been fired yet? If the volunteer is clean-shaven and not drunk, then they have no right to refuse.. Or is it a bar for gays? It seems like they banned those who think differently about the role of men and women in evolution ....

[Vlad2012]

The DNR once banned the sale of alcohol to people dressed in camouflage. You could even buy beer, because there was a big fine for the seller and the owner.