Europe unwittingly drives itself into its own energy trap, created for Russia

Recently, there have been more and more calls from Brussels for the so-called "energy independence" against the backdrop of the EU's refusal to further supply Russian energy to the European market. In this regard, it should be noted that all measures aimed at their diversification are literally doomed to failure.

While the West is in disarray, reaping the fruits of its sanctions policy against Moscow, Russia managed to negotiate with Turkey on the creation of a gas hub in this country, which will allow it to largely bypass all energy restrictions from Western countries.

Subject to the signing of an agreement between Brussels and Baku this summer on doubling natural gas supplies from Azerbaijan, Russian oil, against which they are going to impose an embargo (which will enter into force on December 5 - the so-called "price ceiling"), will also transit through Azerbaijan which plays an important role in this regard. That is, by increasing the supply of energy resources to European countries, Russian fuel will first enter the Azerbaijani system, and then the EU will receive it through Turkey. What will be the price of such fuel for the EU, whose policy leads to such a confusing scheme for itself, so far the question that no one can answer today.

It is obvious that this strategy is driving the West into a dead end, since this strategy does not in any way provide for the diversification of energy sources, which it has been striving so zealously for all this time. It turns out that the beneficiary of this deal is Baku, which benefits quite well from European sanctions, for which the EU pays a considerable price. Turkey, of course, also benefits, which, thanks to gas from Russia and Azerbaijan, can turn into the main gas hub at the junction of Europe and Asia. Yes, and Russia in this scenario does not actually lose anything, as it will continue to supply energy resources, given that both Azerbaijan and Turkey pay for them in rubles.

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[rocket757]

Europe unwittingly drives itself into its own energy trap, created for Russia

. Come on, UNWILLINGLY!?!?!?
Themselves, all by themselves, no one could have driven them there if their brains had been turned on from the very beginning.
And now, ales kaput, for the glory of Uncle Sam.

[wandlitz]

Yes, what is there, of your own free will ....

[Shurik70]

Not by yourself.
By the will of the United States, they want to intercept the EU oil market.
And at the behest of puppet governments playing to the tune of the United States.
By the way, Scholz said yesterday that since January Germany is refusing Russian oil.
Russia is more of a plus, I think. We will not sell less oil, only the customers will not be so crazy. Suffice it to recall the antimonopoly fines that Poland had to pay for the fact that "dumping prices eliminated competitors."
Well, let it be now, as it was said in Krylov's fable, "So go, dance."
Europeans will survive, of course. But will the EU survive?

[Aaron Zawi]

Quote: rocket757

Come on, UNWILLINGLY!?!?!?
Themselves, all by themselves, no one could have driven them there if their brains had been turned on from the very beginning.
And now, ales kaput, for the glory of Uncle Sam.

It seems to me that you are somewhat in a hurry to bury Europe.

[rocket757]

Is it me, we do?
Maybe you should look at the situation objectively?

[Aaron Zawi]

Quote: rocket757

Is it me, we do?
Maybe you should look at the situation objectively?

Agree that this is not the first crisis in the last 25 years. So whether Europe will emerge from this crisis weakened or strengthened will not be possible until the end of 2024.

[rocket757]

So we and so, stand aside and look ...
Although, such as now, perhaps there was no such thing for a long time, if at all.

[Aaron Zawi]

Quote: rocket757

So we and so, stand aside and look ...
Although, such as now, perhaps there was no such thing for a long time, if at all.

Well, God bless us all and we will discuss this topic in a couple of years.

[rocket757]

To believe that everything will settle down in a couple of years, one must be an endless optimist ... however, the general direction can be determined, we will wait, see and .. God forbid, everyone, health !!!

[Boycott]

Excuse me, are you a humanist? Of all the crises, Europe got out at the expense of inexpensive and unlimited resources of Russia. Europe has never known such a crisis as it is now: production has been massively transferred to China, resources are limited and roads are expensive, there are millions of freeloaders, and no one really wants to work ... So there is no question of strengthening.

[Aaron Zawi]

Quote: BoyCat

Excuse me, are you a humanist? Of all the crises, Europe got out at the expense of inexpensive and unlimited resources of Russia. Europe has never known such a crisis as it is now: production has been massively transferred to China, resources are limited and roads are expensive, there are millions of freeloaders, and no one really wants to work ... So there is no question of strengthening.

I do not want to pour from empty to empty. We'll see.

[rocket757]

They say that miracles happen, sometimes ... I doubt, however, but the truth is, our dispute, only time will judge.

[for]

Quote: BoyCat

Of all the crises, Europe got out at the expense of inexpensive and unlimited resources of Russia.

And to which country did we sell at higher prices?
And accordingly we bought their products at lower prices.

[Carat]

Quote: Aron Zaavi

Agree that this is not the first crisis in the last 25 years. So whether Europe will emerge from this crisis weakened or strengthened will not be possible until the end of 2024.

Will the one who can turn the calendar from 2023 to 2024 survive?
Now the situation is such that a full-scale nuclear war is possible as never before.
And do not think that everything will go smoothly in the promised land. Just 10 percent of the simultaneous nuclear explosion of the power of the Russian Strategic Missile Forces will split the planet into small pieces. How will the Jews be comfortable in outer space (however, like everyone else)?
Now is not the time of Khrushchev. In the management of the United States, there are people with a different mentality and different knowledge about nuclear war.
But the essence has not changed: "whoever remains on the planet will remain alive - they will envy the dead."

[Carat]

Quote: Aron Zaavi

So will Europe come out of this crisis weakened or strengthened?

Even if there is no nuclear war, it is not up to the leaders of the EU, but the United States, to decide whether Europe will emerge weakened or strengthened. And judging by the industrial and economic indicators and the political will of the leaders of most EU countries, it will not come out. "America First" (c). Note that Israel is also not a word here.
The Americans will exchange you for anything, as long as the US economic indicators are stable.

[And Us Rat]

Quote: Aron Zaavi

So whether Europe will emerge from this crisis weakened or strengthened will not be possible until the end of 2024.

She doesn't get any buffs, the Yankees will not miss the opportunity to bend them at a vulnerable time. At best, stabilization.

[Aaron Zawi]

Quote: And Us Rat

Quote: Aron Zaavi

So whether Europe will emerge from this crisis weakened or strengthened will not be possible until the end of 2024.

She doesn't get any buffs, the Yankees will not miss the opportunity to bend them at a vulnerable time. At best, stabilization.

Any crisis is also a window of opportunity.

[And Us Rat]

Quote: Aron Zaavi

Any crisis is also a window of opportunity.

For those who like to fish in troubled waters, but as a rule, their catch, the country and the people around them, mainly brings harm.

[Lord]

Previously, she climbed out at the expense of cheap resources, including from Russia, but now will they get out without them?

[abc_alex]

That's just the point, that not the first. And the previous ones have already exhausted sane ways of responding. The covid crisis has already shown that Europe has no other scenarios than inflation. In general, all the latest actions of European officials show that they do not use other methods besides flooding the problem with money.

Of course, Europe will not disappear from the face of the Earth. And the countries located on this piece of Eurasia will not scatter to other continents either. The question is precisely whether Europe will survive in its current form, or will degrade.

[gromit]

Objectively, the eurozone economy grew in all 3 quarters of 2022.
European conscripts don't wallow in wet trenches. And gas with oil is supplied to Europe in the required quantities.

If you look at the market price of gas, then after a breakthrough in April, it also jerks and decreases. Now 1350, which is less than in December 21.

[rocket757]

Statistics is a tricky thing in general, but at the moment when someone needs to hide their failures, it’s better to just keep quiet about statistics ... they just pull the numbers, shuffle the criteria and so on, so on, so on ...
There is an indicator that is not absolute, but quite informative ... generated ENERGY, consumed ENERGY CARRIERS !!!! but with her in geyrop not ah ... and they also want to screw / reduce.
And yet, they are at war, with themselves, and this is by no means ice, for anyone.

[Askold65]

Quote: Aron Zaavi

It seems to me that you are in a hurry to bury Europe

Or is she burying herself...?

[Alexei]

Quote: Aron Zaavi

It seems to me that you are somewhat in a hurry to bury Europe.

Here I agree with you. If we understand the approximate economic alignment, then Europe has a higher margin of safety than Russia and there is production. And in Russia we have only pipes and uncles on expensive cars. Well, if for garlic, what do we have - a narrowly focused economy focused on the export of minerals, requiring an artificial annual devaluation of the ruble. And all sorts of Rosneft and Gazprom put a fiddle with butter in the country's budget, because with the annual devaluation it is not profitable to keep money in rubles. Stupidly they put it in their pockets and take it abroad by converting it into another currency. And in Europe and the United States, they know this whole alignment, and therefore they can safely go to any escalation.

[rocket757]

Everyone has the right to their disbelief and it leads them to different end points ...
Time will tell who reached where and whether this is the place where he wanted to go.

[smart ass]

Why does the Russian Federation not lose the price of anything?

[rocket757]

EVERYONE loses ... if someone does not see this, it means, look, look, more carefully.

[Dizel200]

England must die
The text is short but reflects the purpose of humanity

[smart ass]

Poseidon is enough for this case 1 pc. The best gift for the new year

[MBRSS]

I read the article and remember the patriotic choir on all sorts of federal TV channels: exhaust?
Now I’m reading about kirdyk in Europe with the launch of the Turkish hub ... Tired ...

[kot423]

Quote: MBRBS

a patriotic choir on all sorts of federal TV channels: “Here we will launch SP-2, we will start pumping gas to Europe, and then immediately “to the kings”! And on the exhaust?

Do not confuse warm with soft. Geyropa, at the behest of the mattresses, shot herself into an empty pumpkin, blowing up (or slipping a diversion, that’s not the point) the gas pipeline. We have lost 100500 times less compared to the tolerants.

[Alexei]

On the exhaust: our serious uncles on expensive cars have slightly overestimated their position in the global capitalist system and are now scratching their heads where else to throw pipes so as not to finally go into the red.

[Fangaro]

The US continues to rub its hands, making money on the problems in the world. Europe itself is to blame for its problems.

[orionvitt]

Quote from Fangaro

The US continues to rub its hands, making money on the problems in the world

The United States has always profited from other people's problems. If there were no problems, then they successfully created them for everyone. In troubled water, the larger fish are caught. And they want to eat so much that they did not even hesitate to create problems not in some Africa, but with their main allies, that is, in Europe. With subsequent gnaws, of course, a piece is fat. The process is already in the stage of devouring. In the spring, Europe will already suck the bones. Get out of Germany (as they say, the locomotive of the European economy), they tilted and subtly fucked, for a start stupidly blowing up gas pipelines. And they silently swallowed and said Danka. So everything is clear with them.

[tralflot1832]

It should be purple for us, as it is in the USA and the EU. If we didn’t calculate this, we wouldn’t start. They want to follow their idiots into a brighter future, but let them follow their own. We have enough problems of our own. but you need to look after yours more. Everything is just beginning.

[Normal]

What America Needs. First, after WWI, you created a Nazi party in defeated Germany. They owed you everything - financially, economically, politically. Therefore, you expected them to be obedient puppets in your hands. Similarly, in Asia you helped Japan. There were no minerals on the island, and they were also completely dependent on your supplies. You pumped them up with weapons, money, technology and wanted to set them against Russia from both sides. After Russia was defeated, you would stop feeding your war dogs and easily destroy them. But the dogs, as it turned out, also wanted to live and perfectly understood the fate prepared for them. Therefore, when they gained strength, they attacked their masters themselves. You had to help your enemy with your own hands - Russia, which in those years bore the name of the USSR, which led to its victory. Realizing that it is impossible to defeat the Russians in an open confrontation, you decided to change tactics and declared the Cold War - the war of economies and ideas. . To do this, after WWII on the European continent, in 1957 you contributed to the creation of the European Economic Union (EEC) in opposition to the Soviet Union and its Council for Mutual Economic Assistance (1949-1991) of the socialist states, supporting the EEC economically and politically. In order to turn the EEC from an amorphous formation of countries where everyone is fighting for their national interests into a single structure, you did not oppose the European financial circles in their historical desire (even before WWI) to create a European Union, with common governance structures, a single customs space and a single currency. The first attempt to create a single economic and monetary union was made back in 1969, but this was prevented by the collapse of the Bretton Woods system in 1971. In 1979, the European Monetary System and the European currency unit, the ECU (1979-1998), were created. The economy of Europe grew, while the USSR was shaken by economic problems. And now your tactics worked and the "Red Empire" collapsed, you won. The troubadours have proclaimed your final victory - "The End of History". But the trouble is, the structures that you created to fight the "reds" have now turned into your competitors from allies. The new European currency, the euro, began to push the dollar. Therefore, now you are faced with the task of crushing the euro, turning the EU from competitors into obedient vassals.
What is the easiest way to destroy any economy? Quite simply, you need to deprive her of her energy supplies. So, at the end of WWII, the economies of Japan and Germany were destroyed - without oil, any fleet, tanks and planes are just scrap metal. Of its own energy resources, modern Europe has only coal and nuclear power plants (NPPs). Oil and gas are supplied from other countries, mainly from Russia, 30% and 40% of total EU consumption respectively. This means that European sources of energy must be eliminated, and then supplies from Russia should be cut off. However, openly starting an economic war means incurring significant losses and angering former allies. So it is necessary to destroy the EU with the hands of their EU. To do this, you need to solve 5 tasks:
1. To bring to power in the EU manual rulers who are incapable of decisive independent action, who will work on orders from Washington.
The solution of this problem in Europe was facilitated by three main circumstances. Firstly, Europe has been an occupied territory since WWII - there are 625 NATO bases (consider American) on its territory alone. Secondly, the election system is designed in such a way that no party has practically no chance of winning without money. So, we just need to support the financially necessary party. And thirdly, in Europe, as in Russia until 2015, there is a highly effective system for selecting and educating promising young people. There are various "Leader Training Programs", exchange programs, "Open World" leadership centers. And that's not counting the training program for "independent journalists" by George Soros and people recruited by the special services. That is why we now have such a quality of leaders in Europe. These are not even leaders, this is some kind of freak show. Completely uneducated, narrow-minded comedians, defending the interests of anything but their own country, who in no way can be placed next to the politicians of the past. Is it possible to put Winston Churchill and Boris Johnson, General De Gaulle and sissy Macron, the author of the German economic miracle Konrad Adenauer and Olaf the king of heaven Scholz side by side? The degradation of political leaders is obvious, and their complete dependence on the United States is well understood by the Europeans themselves:
2. "Infect" the EU with an environmental agenda.
This will destroy coal energy, as the dirtiest from an environmental point of view. And if you frighten the world with the possibility of radioactive contamination due to an accident at a nuclear power plant, then you can also close all nuclear power plants in Europe and Japan. And then Chernobyl happens so “successfully” because of some strange experiment, and then Fukushima. Most of the nuclear power plants in Japan are closed, as are those in Germany, and in France and other EU countries. If France used to be a seller of electricity, now it has become a buyer. Infection with green madness led to the active construction of medieval windmills, passing it off as a new word in technology and the construction of solar panels, which led to a significant rise in the price of electricity and the loss of sustainability of its generation. The industry requires the presence of a constant component of the power of electricity, regardless of the time of day and the presence or absence of wind. And consumption peaks in the morning and evening, i.e. just when the solar panels do not work, they require the operation of thermal, primarily gas-fired power plants. With its own coal and nuclear power plants closed, Europe has increased rather than reduced its dependence on gas supplies from Russia. And here comes the third act of the tragedy.
3. Break the connection between Europe and Russia.
Having broken the connection between Europe and Russia, Europe is deprived of cheap energy resources. Their prices skyrocket. And here the US can "help" Europe with its expensive LNG, making good money on it. At the same time, it becomes unprofitable to produce something in Europe, and manufacturers begin to flee Europe to where the conditions for production are better. This means that by this time it is necessary to create favorable conditions for European manufacturers in the United States so that they run to where they "need".
How to make sure that Europe itself breaks off its advantageous connection with Europe. Very simply, it is necessary to arrange a war between Russia and Ukraine, accusing Russia of all mortal sins. Taking advantage of the fact that the main pipelines pass right through the territory of Ukraine, it is possible to blow up these pipelines, blaming Russia for this. At the same time, it is highly desirable to make sure that Russia attacks Ukraine. How to check all this? To do this, it is necessary to turn Ukraine into an extremely Russophobic country. Pump it up with hatred for Russia, prepare its armed forces, destroy the economy of Ukraine, making it possible to earn money only in war, i.e. actually turn the population of the whole country into mercenaries, into cannon fodder, which is not a pity. The more Russians and Ukrainians will kill each other, the better. The more economic damage will be done to Russia, or to those regions that will pass to Russia upon the fact of the war, the better. Russia will be weakened by war and sanctions. Taking advantage of the inevitable decline in the standard of living in Russia and thanks to a whole army of people trained by us, provoke a color revolution in Russia by bringing the right people to power.
4. Prepare a protest electorate in Europe.
After that, the energy of Europe itself will be destroyed by the hands of the Europeans themselves, and the connection between Europe and Russia will be destroyed, a financial crisis will inevitably arise in Europe (it is necessary to further contribute to this, for example, with the help of a pandemic). It will become impossible to produce anything with insanely expensive energy, and the entire industry, especially energy-intensive ones, will either have to flee or die. All this means a sharp increase in unemployment, unrest in the streets. So you need to put the right people at the head of the trade unions and support the protesters financially. But there is one hitch here. The main active force of any protest, including color revolutions, is the youth, and Europe has grown old. The average age today is 44,6 years, Germany - 47,8 years, Italy - 46,5. Who will protest? How to solve this problem? It's very simple - you need to organize a flow of refugees from poor countries to Europe. To do this, it is necessary, on the one hand, to create chaos in the countries of Africa and the Middle East, and on the other hand, to help the refugees reach Europe. Moreover, to force Europe to accept them with open arms, to force it to be spent on them. It is these people who, when the crisis comes and they have nothing to live on, will tear Europe to pieces.
5. Preparation of the financial crisis in Europe.
For the financial collapse of the EU, as in any war in general, they will most likely hit in the weakest spot. The weakest point of the EU is the south - Italy, Spain, Greece, Portugal. Their total debt is 7 times the capacity of the ESM Stabilization Mechanism of 700 billion euros. The debts of Italy alone today have reached a huge 2,75 trillion. Euro. Since the ECB decided to buy the debts of troubled countries, Italy's problems are the debts of the entire EU. If any of the countries of the south default, it will immediately cause a huge financial hole in the ECB. I am sure that for many years the United States has been buying up the debt securities of the countries of the south in order to present them all for redemption at once at the right time.
And finally, at the final stage of the tragedy, it is necessary to help the right-wing parties in the elections, those who will be in favor of leaving the EU. So, the EU will disintegrate and in fact the euro will disappear. (With)

[stelltok]

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[Sly]

Quote: Normal

What America needs... ...destroy the EU with the hands of its EU. To do this, you need to solve 5 tasks:

Awesome analytics! No sarcasm

[Kurganets-45]

Let me add: the UK with its Brexit fits perfectly into your "picture".

[Normal]

Interestingly, you and I understand this, and not only we, but Europeans are like blind kittens. It's so obvious that it's just phonite.

[Alexey Lantukh]

"Russia has nothing to lose"? Well, what about Azerbaijanis and Turks, how will they participate?

[Maks1995]

So the idea is that Turkey and Azerbaijan are cashing in on Russian gas, while Russia itself just allegedly "does not lose"
win....

[voyaka uh]

A gas hub in Turkey is actually a strange idea.
Well, gas came there through a pipe - to whom to sell?
It is warm in the south of Europe, the demand for heating is small.
There are also few industrialized countries.
High demand in the Nordic countries, where
climate factor (heating) and industry.
In any case, this gas will have to be converted into LNG.
Build terminals, factories.
And that pisses him off a lot. And all meaning is lost
competition with American or Qatari LNG.

[Custodian]

It's such a strategic plan, a cunning plan

[Monster_Fat]

Another article, another "mantra" on the topic of the collapsing European Union and how bad it is without Russia. Let me remind you that this was written at one time about Ukraine. There is no need to worry about the European Union - they are quickly diversifying gas and oil flows from Russia to other countries. And there is no "gas-oil crisis" there. An increase in the price of gas by 8,5% in our media is presented as a terrible disaster, almost destroying the Western economy, while the same increase in the price of gas by 8,5% in Russia is simply not noticed, like, think what nonsense, every year this price rises and nothing, but the West will die. In addition, a cartoon has recently been circulated - about the fact that, they say, Western business is leaving Europe, it is changing jurisdiction to the United States. I am generally surprised that how can you write this without delving into the very essence of the issue. No production is running anywhere from Europe, just some companies are changing jurisdiction, again - not completely of the entire company, but only its most "expensive" part, to the jurisdiction of American offshore states to reduce the tax burden. But only. Yes, yes, in the USA there are offshore states with preferential taxation, and until recently quite a few "Russian" companies were registered there. So, there is no flight from the EU of enterprises and production - as they were in the EU, they remain there, they will simply partially pay taxes at an offshore rate in the USA. The European Commission allowed this to be done for the period of the "transitional period" of diversifying energy flows and establishing a balance in the domestic market. That's all. And in our media they inflate the devil knows that it is almost the "collapse of Europe" and the establishment of US domination over it.

[Pavel57]

The goal has been achieved - Europe, as a competitor to the States, is moving towards bankruptcy. And capital and production migrates from Europe, mainly to the States.

[Vladimir Vladimirovich Vorontsov]

"Europe unwittingly drives itself into its own energy trap, created for Russia" -

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“Don’t dig a hole for another, you yourself will fall into it” ...
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[sgr291158]

All in the pros, one geyropa in the anus. But how Russia was hurt.

[Jsem_CZEKO68]

Evropa se zažene do energetické pasti.., ale vědomě!!! díky svým fašistickým politikům, kteří se snaží zničit vlastní národ a ekonomiku země! Alespoň v ČR tomu tak je..

[Ratibor_A]

Quote: Monster_Fat

Another article, another "mantra" on the topic of the collapsing European Union and how bad it is without Russia. Let me remind you that this was written at one time about Ukraine. There is no need to worry about the European Union - they are quickly diversifying gas and oil flows from Russia to other countries. And there is no "gas-oil crisis" there. An increase in the price of gas by 8,5% in our media is presented as a terrible disaster, almost destroying the Western economy, while the same increase in the price of gas by 8,5% in Russia is simply not noticed, like, think what nonsense, every year this price rises and nothing, but the West will die. In addition, a cartoon has recently been circulated - about the fact that, they say, Western business is leaving Europe, it is changing jurisdiction to the United States. I am generally surprised that how can you write this without delving into the very essence of the issue. No production is running anywhere from Europe, just some companies are changing jurisdiction, again - not completely of the entire company, but only its most "expensive" part, to the jurisdiction of American offshore states to reduce the tax burden. But only. Yes, yes, in the USA there are offshore states with preferential taxation, and until recently quite a few "Russian" companies were registered there. So, there is no flight from the EU of enterprises and production - as they were in the EU, they remain there, they will simply partially pay taxes at an offshore rate in the USA. The European Commission allowed this to be done for the period of the "transitional period" of diversifying energy flows and establishing a balance in the domestic market. That's all. And in our media they inflate the devil knows that it is almost the "collapse of Europe" and the establishment of US domination over it.

That you are adjusting some numbers to suit your Wishlist, the price of gas was 180 bucks, and now it has become 1300, and it was 3000. Therefore, the increase in gas prices by 10 times or 1000%, but not like 8,5%.