The authorities of Odessa still decided to demolish the monument to Catherine II

The monument to Empress Catherine the Great, standing in the center of Odessa, will be demolished. This decision was made by the authorities of the city, trying to comply with the general line of the Ukrainian leadership to combat any legacy of the Soviet and Russian stories. The fact that it was under Catherine II that Odessa was created, and the territory it occupies was recaptured from the Turks, is not taken into account.

The monument to Catherine will be given to the municipal organization that deals with the management of city cemeteries. Most likely, the monument will be placed in one of the city parks, which are located far from the city center.

In addition to the monument to Catherine the Great, the Odessa authorities will dismantle and send for storage to the Odessa Municipal Museum of Personal Collections named after A.V. Bleschunov and other monuments to the “Founders of Odessa”. However, from the dismantling of the monuments, other founders will not appear in Odessa. The history of this city, as well as the liberation of the Northern Black Sea region from the Ottoman Empire, will always be associated with the names of Russian emperors, political and military figures.

It is clear that no Zaporizhzhya Cossacks or Volyn Selyuks, who were in the position of semi-slaves among the Poles, would ever have liberated the Black Sea coast from Turkish rule and would not have built such a large and wonderful city as Odessa. You can’t run away from the truth, and the attempts of the Ukrainian authorities to destroy the history of the cities of their own country, even without offering anything in return, seem all the more disgusting.

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[evgen1221]

They can, I believe in them. The business is to come up with another mykola zadirishchenko with Polish-tribaltic-European roots who arrived in the 155th century BC from Uameriga to these parts and is in the service of the English crown! Brad? -And they are able to make it come true. We were born to make a fairy tale come true!)

[mag nit]

What are they afraid of? Odessa under the roof of the grain conspiracy.

[DymOk_v_dYmke]

Quote: mag nit

What are they afraid of? Odessa under the roof of the grain conspiracy.

It is not Ukraine that demolishes monuments, it is bourgeois Russia that rents and sells everything.
Odessa should have been returned long ago!

[Plate]

Quote: DymOk_v_dYmke

It is not Ukraine that demolishes monuments, it is bourgeois Russia that rents and sells everything.

It sounds like "it was not you who were beaten, it was you who allowed yourself to be beaten, so you yourself are to blame for everything."

[DymOk_v_dYmke]

Quote: Plate

It sounds like "it was not you who were beaten, it was you who allowed yourself to be beaten, so you yourself are to blame for everything."

Is it not so?
Die, but don't let yourself be abused and beaten.
Not. not this way?

[Plate]

No not like this. The one who commits the crime is to blame, not the one who suffers from it. So it is not Russia that allows Ukraine to demolish monuments, but Ukraine itself demolishes monuments. The question of whether it is worth forcing her to answer for this, we leave aside.
And it's better to stay alive in any situation. So there will always be a chance to return and take revenge, than just go and die without doing anything useful.

[DymOk_v_dYmke]

Quote: Plate

And it's better to stay alive in any situation. So there will always be a chance to return and take revenge, than just go and die without doing anything useful.

Once you give up your will, you will never return to it again. Axiom.

[Plate]

Quote: DymOk_v_dYmke

Once you give up your will, you will never return to it again.

According to your logic, there is no one in the world at all who has a will, since everyone in one way or another gives up their will at least in the smallest things, not to mention the need to fulfill the terms of peace treaties after lost wars.

[DymOk_v_dYmke]

For this, there is a change of generations, so that the old with a crumpled will and its "sins" goes into another world, giving way to a new one that has the opportunity to "play ~ from scratch.

[Plate]

You, in my immortalist views, dealt just a mortal blow

[Nyrobsky]

Quote: mag nit

Why should they be afraid?

They can no longer be afraid, because in the foreseeable future, Ukraine as a state will not exist and the process of its collapse is already irreversible. All that happens to them is "the revenge of Vladimir Ilyich Lenin", the spirit of which they awakened by dropping his monuments from the pedestals. Now they will awaken the spirit of Catherine the Great to the heap, and then they will definitely have a tryndets, because. aunt she was strong-willed

[Egoza]

You can’t run away from the truth, and the attempts of the Ukrainian authorities to destroy the history of the cities of their own country, even without offering anything in return, seem all the more disgusting.

So the mentality is not the same! To offer something in return is not our thing! It's "give it back!" And all you need is "On, on, for free!" But even in the Odessa market, this does not work for gypsies.

[Godzila]

Quote: Egoza

So the mentality is not the same! To offer something in return is not our thing! It's "give it back!" And all you need is "On, on, for free!" But even in the Odessa market, this does not work for gypsies.

That's right Elena .. From anger they destroy everything, like yes, you are not enough for anyone Temporary workers in one word! I won’t be surprised if, when escaping, these devils detonate a dirty bomb and run gigaya with laughter and bags
Only to destroy those who erase history and fill their people with blood, driving them into centuries-old debts .. The Anglo-Saxons applaud and throw money with a cry Atu Russia and its history and faith

[DymOk_v_dYmke]

Quote from godzila

Only to destroy those who erase history and fill their people with blood, driving them into centuries-old debts ..

Therefore, the idea arises that the transformation of the President of Ukraine and his bunker into a deep funnel is more beneficial to Ukraine itself than to Russia.

[Dizel200]

What is it that they have nothing to offer? And your flawed ideology? It is quite likely that a monument will be erected to Adolf. Their ideology goes with a bang into the brains of the Selyuks and Ragulis. Everything that is Russian must be taken away from them. It doesn't belong to them. Let them move to Canada.

[Boris55]

Destroying its the past, people lose its future.

[2 Level Advisor]

on the one hand, now this is their territory, so they do what they want, like the tribalts, but on the other hand, take it down or not - Catherine 2 - will still remain the founder of modern Odessa - you can’t throw words out of a song, especially it has nothing to do with communism at all, so in fact, these actions are imiotism, I’m also the reason why the monuments to Lenin are being demolished - as I understand it, but what does Catherine have to do with it? okay, what can we discuss the mentally ill people who made this decision ..

[Alexander Salenko]

This is because you were not a citizen of Ukraine. The Empress is a terrible criminal, she dispersed the Zaporozhian Sich. I heard with my own ears how chemists were loaded at the lecture, that she acted very cruelly by doing this, and the teacher of the history of Ukraine was not the most detached.
When a monument to Catherine was erected in Sevastopol, not because it stood, but as a tribute, there was hysteria among the Nazis, the monument was guarded at first, and out of malice they slapped a monument to Sagaidachny in Sevastopol.

[2 Level Advisor]

Quote: Alexander Salenko

This is because you were not a citizen of Ukraine.

tin but .. and in Sevastopol the Nazis ran? I’m surprised .. I thought they weren’t particularly there .. in the Crimea in Alushta I met them on vacation .. Ukrainian songs yell, conflict, drunk .. they almost got into a fight, but in the end they drank beer together, although they weren’t especially friends dispersed .. although these Kyiv Dynamo fans were maybe not as vicious as the Westerners, or maybe my knowledge of the history of the Soviet Kyiv Dynamo helped to make contact ... after that I didn’t go to Alushta, I’d rather go to my small Motherland in Feodosia, there they didn't meet much...

[Alexander Salenko]

So who will stop them from entering? To them, in the sense of the Ukronatsiks ..

[Chervony Biker]

But I don’t understand why the monument to Lenin is being demolished in Ukraine.
And those who demolish don't understand either (but for a different reason)
And why, in the west of Ukraine, behind Zbruch, they don’t erect monuments to Stalin, I don’t understand either. From Polish servility, it was Vissarionich who rescued them, on our heads.

[Lech from Android.]

The only way to save Odessa is to free it from the Ukronazis physically... so that their spirit is not there.
Wangyu that after the demolition of the monument to Catherine, the name of the city of Odessa will be changed to some kind of Banderograd ... this is the goal of the Nazi regime in Kyiv ... to destroy everything they hate connected with Russia.

[Vasilenko Vladimir]

let them roll up the Potemkin stairs with asphalt

[Chronos]

There is a great option - to put a large stone horseradish in this place. The most for today's Ukraine.

[rotmistr60]

The monument to Empress Catherine the Great, standing in the center of Odessa, will be demolished.

When history is rewritten in the right direction, the people are fooled and live in a virtual world created by the Ukrainian authorities, the main enemy has been appointed, then it remains to completely get rid of everything that still remains and reminds of Russia. Well, on every corner they stick their freak monuments to Bandera, Shukhevych ... They will gather around them to jump, bawl anti-Russian chants and they will be "completely happy." Those who were born 30 years ago and their born children are completely lost to the Russian world. You can't re-educate them, and no ideological denazification will help. And how many of the older generation who happily put pots on their heads, put on embroidered shirts and harem pants, grew cool hair on the crown of the head and considers themselves a superman, too, can not be counted.

[Aviator_]

Those who were born 30 years ago and their born children are completely lost to the Russian world. You can't re-educate them, and no ideological denazification will help.

Well, the Nazis were re-educated in our zone of occupation after WWII. And we can, but not right away.

[Dmitry Ivanov_8]

I may not quote exactly: "A people that has forgotten its past has no future."

[Dimy4]

Let Ekaterina finally crush someone. And fill the Potemkin Stairs with artificial ice, so that as they roll down and break their legs and arms, they remember their idiocy.

[Oleg Ogorod]

They need to start to demolish in Kyiv a monument to the leader of the Zaporizhzhya Cossacks Bogdan Khmelnitsky. It was he, running between the Polish paths and the Turkish sultan, who asked for it in the Russian kingdom. It was under him that this territory became the Russian state. It was at his will that the Zaporozhye Cossacks bowed at the feet of the great queen for a long time.
In short, it is necessary to clear the history of the Ukrainian state from this traitor, the Muscovite serf. Yes, and the princes of Kyiv, starting from Oleg / Igor, went from k * tsaps, one might say from Muscovites, orcs in a word.
Well, then all Orthodox churches will be demolished. Why are they in Catholic Ukraine? The churches will be set up as in Poland.

[Alexander Salenko]

With princes you overdo it. In their minds, Princess Olga, who was born in Pskov, is a Ukrainian, personally read in a textbook for the 5th grade.

[Arkady007]

It would be necessary to redeem or exchange these monuments for celery from dill, they no longer need them.

[DymOk_v_dYmke]

Quote: Arkady007

It would be necessary to redeem or exchange these monuments for celery from dill, they no longer need them.

It is not necessary to redeem the monuments, but to expel this evil spirits into Canada.
There they belong.

[Alexy]

Yes, let them demolish everything and rename it! So that there would be no Deribasovskaya, no Catherine, no Potemkin stairs, no Duke. Maybe after that people there will see the light, finally, and understand who the real orcs and invaders are. But are there any sane people left there???

[DymOk_v_dYmke]

Quote: Alexy

Yes, let them demolish everything and rename it! So that there would be no Deribasovskaya, no Catherine, no Potemkin stairs, no Duke. Maybe after that people there will see the light, finally, and understand who the real orcs and invaders are. But are there any sane people left there???

The sane are already either in Russia or in the Promised Land.

[YOUR]

There are no brains, consider a cripple. Under Catherine, there were no Ukrainians. Ukrainians in 1918 the Germans came up with

[Alexander Salenko]

Yeah, and Bulgakov came up with them, but they say that Russians are not Slavs. I have a question, what makes you different then? The national question is delicate and you climb into it with the grace of a hippo.

[Incvizitor]

When they demolish, drag it there with a hurricane.

[petroglyph]

The war with historical monuments is the hallmark of one organization that in Syria was very actively engaged in the destruction of ancient pearls. Judging by who "dances" Ukraine, these are the same organizers with the same manuals.

[opuonmed]

nudk russophobes rule there now they are everywhere monuments demolish the regime of Kyiv alive and shining and smelling

[Fangaro]

Odessa city governors act quite logically. And that's why...
Monuments that somehow correlate with Russia or the Soviet Union are being demolished. However, they are not destroyed, but moved.
What if something ... And you can start saying that they didn’t demolish it, but saved it from ... From whom they saved it - it’s them, those who now rule the city and the region in Odessa, they will come up with it later.
Otherwise, it would be logical to save Odessa itself, since it has been liberated by the Russian Empire. By moving the mayors to the Sea of ​​Okhotsk, for example.

[iouris]

Nobody promised a hundred "arrivals" for the demolition of the monument to Catherine the Great? And what?
Correct reflexes should be formed.

[Yuri Siritsky_2]

The epidemic of change and demolition that has begun will lead to the fact that the time will come to change the name of Ukraine to Banderostan.

[Plate]

I wonder if Billy Harrington will be put in the end or not? That'll be some fun, huh!
Once they turned Lenin into Darth Vader.

[Chervony Biker]

In order for the front to still confidently roll to the west, we must be humiliated, spit on, unbearably hurt and insulted a certain number of times.
Otherwise, it doesn't seem to work...
That's why !
To awaken our consciousness, unfortunately, a certain number of monuments will still be demolished.
Regarding the monument to Catherine, as I wrote here on VO (https://topwar.ru/204486-rubikon-po-imeni-ekaterina.html) - I think they will NOT be demolished.
They will make many more decisions, discuss projects, approve estimates ...
How to do it, cunning Gena - we in Odessa, have been watching for many years.
Judge for yourself...
Odessa is an imperial city occupied by the Nazis.
With whoever is there, whatever they say - loyal pro-Russian population. Which is now sitting, not very with light, not very with water, and it is not clear how with heat.
The alleged demolition of Catherine and someone's approving grunts in Lvov or in Kyiv will not add joy to the inhabitants of Odessa.
The city authorities also have something to do - we must continue to steal.
And here, it immediately runs through their heads, but how could the money "mastered" during the demolition be spent for the benefit of people?
Everyone understands that after Catherine, they will definitely take up Pushkin Sasha and Misha Vorontsov.
To offer something equivalent in terms of the formation of identity - Odessans, banderlogs are not capable of anything.
The main thing is that the Russian Defense Ministry should hurry up and create an anonymous chat bot especially for the inhabitants of Odessa for target designation and intelligence transmission.
You can call it - Katya and "Katyusha"
ps if someone carefully looked at the photo of the fence with which the monument was surrounded ...
Then it does not imply an area for dismantling work at all. Serves more for the preservation of the monument.

[Oleg Ogorod]

Odessans can not be called pro-Russian for a long time. It's just that Odessa Jews prefer to speak Russian with a Jewish accent. A sort of Odessa language. These people are for the free city of Odessa, independent of Kyiv and even more so of Moscow. Prosperous people lived in Odessa. Firstly, it is a large seaport, and in the ports there is always something to profit from, the same prostitutes and smugglers. Odessa is a large resort city on the coast of the warm sea. Odessa is a fishing city, where Kostya brought scows full of mullet.
Odessa has a port plant, with the export of Russian ammonia, which also gave good money. Odessa has a good climate for farmers of different varieties. Near the borders with different states, it is easy to deploy legal and illegal trade.
Odessans consider themselves a self-sufficient country Odessa ... and the smartest, remember Raikin, Zhvanetsky, Kartsev, and at least Utesov.
And they only dream of Russia in a nightmare.
However, Kyiv.