A draft law on banning the Russian Orthodox Church in Ukraine has been submitted to the Verkhovna Rada

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A draft law on banning the Russian Orthodox Church in Ukraine has been submitted to the Verkhovna Rada

Representatives of the European Solidarity faction submitted to the Verkhovna Rada a bill to ban the Russian Orthodox Church (ROC) in Ukraine. They also propose to ban all religious organizations that are part of its structure or recognize its primacy in canonical, organizational and other aspects.

This was reported on the page of the co-chair of the "European Solidarity" Irina Gerashchenko in social networks.



The bill was registered in the Ukrainian parliament.

Commenting on this initiative, Irina Gerashchenko said that the authorities should pay special attention to the activities of the Kiev-Pechersk Lavra. According to her, she has nothing to do with religion, but is "the Kremlin's anti-Ukrainian nest."

This has been clear for a long time. Only now the SBU came there with searches. We welcome such a reaction, but we are also closely watching how it will end: either only with a picture for a telethon, or with real actions.

- wrote the politician.

The liberation of Ukraine from the ROC is another step towards a free and independent Ukraine

- Gerashchenko said.

Representatives of the political movement, submitting a new bill for consideration, said that its goal is to ensure order in Ukraine and prevent threats to the country's national security. It is important to note that there is no ROC in Ukraine anyway. There is a canonical UOC, which the Kyiv regime associates with the ROC, clearing the territory for the so-called OCU, controlled by the SBU and the CIA.

In fact, after a break of several centuries, a new religious war is flaring up in Europe. It is being conducted by the secret services of Western countries through the hands of the Kyiv regime in order to completely destroy Russian Orthodoxy.
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  1. +9
    November 23, 2022
    A draft law on banning the Russian Orthodox Church in Ukraine has been submitted to the Verkhovna Rada
    They can ban the ROC... they are not the first. BUT, FAITH cannot be banned, time-tested !!!
    Where are all those persecutors of FAITH, sunk into oblivion ... and FAITH, as it was, is.
    1. +5
      November 23, 2022
      We are Orthodox for the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit, and these are for whom?
      1. +2
        November 23, 2022
        To say that there are non-humans ... probably not all of them, although in the Rada, there it stinks of gray a mile away.
        Alas, the people with a whoop raised this to the top ... in general, it was necessary to THINK ... I couldn’t. And now the consequences for all stupid heads, too.
        1. 0
          November 23, 2022
          A crusade to Kuev is needed! Return Orthodoxy, it's sacred!
          1. 0
            November 23, 2022
            Quote: krot
            A crusade to Kuev is needed! Return Orthodoxy, it's sacred!
            The inhabitants of Ukraine need baptize a second time
            fellow
        2. 0
          November 23, 2022
          This is the "same" case when any sermons, whether Orthodox or Mohammedan, will no longer help...

          As long as "from above", this euro is a bandero viper that makes "legislative decisions" something will not regularly "fly in" ...

          Dispersing its inhabitants, for them to make "further decisions" on European rat houses. For starters, let it be Warsaw or Bucharest...

          But a certain Peskov, "talking" a certain Putin, assures the Russians, confusing "goals and objectives", that the President did not set "such a goal" ...

          So, they will ban the ROC and confiscate its assets calmly without any problems. And the Kremlin will "accusatoryly appeal" to a certain "world community" ...
          1. +3
            November 23, 2022
            Quote: ABC-schütze
            This is the "same" case when any sermons, whether Orthodox or Mohammedan, will no longer help...

            The satanic, Nazi coven is in full swing ... now only the cleansing fire can fix everything / most of it ... and little by little, immediately into the fool, for treatment.
            1. +1
              November 23, 2022
              Quote: rocket757
              .....Satanic, Nazi coven is in full swing ... now only the fire that purifies, .....

              Victor, after all, this has already happened and not so long ago. Destruction of Yugoslavia, Serb genocide. Just like the murder of the Orthodox. There was a rehearsal. Hatred of the West Precisely for the Orthodox who have kept their faith, not changed their shoes. In Ukraine, the difference is that the Uniates are already 400 years old. There, the Orthodox were diligently remade, sculpted according to the Western style. Where was the Russian, Soviet power? After all, even under the USSR there was a Uniate underground. Many modern Ukrainian leaders have relatives of Uniate priests.
              1. +1
                November 23, 2022
                It was, it wasn't... now it's getting worse.
                1. +1
                  November 23, 2022
                  Quote: rocket757
                  ... now it gets even worse.

                  Victor, we see what the hopes led to, that everything
                  but where will they go from us? Who needs them?

                  Time has shown the fallacy of misunderstanding processes
                  1. +1
                    November 23, 2022
                    To our regret, experienced provocateurs led to the conflict ... many of us still do not understand who we are dealing with, who is working against us.
                    1. +1
                      November 23, 2022
                      Quote: rocket757
                      .... experienced provocateurs ... many of us still do not understand .....

                      So with RI they did not understand. The conflict began to form the Austro-Hungarian Empire. Habsburgs. Their empire was destroyed by the machinations of the British almost simultaneously with the Republic of Ingushetia. And the anti-Russian project continued to operate.
        3. +1
          November 23, 2022
          Quote: rocket757
          To say that there are non-humans ... probably not all of them, although in the Rada, there it stinks of gray a mile away.
          Alas, the people with a whoop raised this to the top ... in general, it was necessary to THINK ... I couldn’t. And now the consequences for all stupid heads, too.

          Everyone must be responsible for their choice.
          They made this choice and must answer for it in full.
      2. +2
        November 23, 2022
        These pagans, they say and write about themselves. I watched an interview with one of the Azov people right away and said "We are pagans, we worship our god."
        1. +2
          November 23, 2022
          Quote: ohtsistem
          These pagans, they say and write about themselves.

          You look not at what they talk, but at what they do ... they are NOT HUMAN, but pagans, ordinary people, with their cockroaches in their heads and other troubles ... dear guys, in their time and in those life circumstances .
          In general, we are all people, but now every NON-HUMANS has spawned. All of them only fire can ... maybe, in short.
          1. +3
            November 23, 2022
            In Russian, the term "pagans" meant people of a different religion. In the chronicles, for example, it was written: Slovenes, Polans, Drevlyans, Ugrians, Svei, Murmans and other languages. Those. a pagan is just a foreigner of a different religion from us. The substitution of concepts was carried out by our Russian autocephalous church of the Byzantine rite, which Catholics call orthodox. The church, in the struggle for power, has piled up so much that you can only wonder. Those who pretend to be pagans are not, they are ordinary totalitarian sectarians under the control of satanic Western intelligence services, many of them have within themselves energy occupants whom the church calls demons. Actually the way it is. The whole of Western Europe is now a gigantic energy incubator for growing these demonic entities and settling them in people. I have repeatedly written that we will be able to win if we cut off the supply of all types of energy carriers to them. Our energy carriers, somehow, serve as a source of energy in the cultivation of these vile entities. But in our country the power in the country belongs to the oligarchs who themselves have settlers. So the fight is going to be long.
            1. +2
              November 23, 2022
              Quote: 2112vda
              The church, in the struggle for power, has piled up so much that you can only wonder.

              That's just to the clergy, almost all of them, I treat evenly, and when they overdo it (which happens not infrequently) NEGATIVELY.
          2. +1
            November 23, 2022
            Quote: rocket757
            Quote: ohtsistem
            These pagans, they are to themselves ....

            .... they are NON-HUMANS, and pagans, ordinary people, ... every NON-HUMANS has been bred. All of them only fire can ... .

            Good day Victor hi! Previously, all non-Christians were called pagans. Now the concepts have changed. Now pagans are those who pray to many Gods, and who at the same time preach only to their ethnic group or group of ethnic groups. Modern pagans are Haitians, Hindus, some Africans, Australian Aborigines, Papuans, Taoists, Eskimos. As for the Indians, the Oceanians, the peoples of Siberia and the Russian North --- they combine the indigenous faith with the Christian one. The pseudo-paganism of the dill is a mixture of Nazism with terry Satanism. They also have tattoos on this topic.
            And Satanism is a pseudo-religion, a cult of hatred for everything Human and Nature, which God created.
            1. +1
              November 23, 2022
              Dmitry, we are dealing with different phenomena, and all of them are negative, but it quickly slides into a complete nightmare...
        2. +1
          November 23, 2022
          These pagans, they say and write about themselves. I watched an interview with one of the Azov people right away and said "We are pagans, we worship our god."

          We need to send it to Alexander Usik: I remember he promised to defend the Russian Orthodox Church in Ukraine to the last drop of something there, before he shaved his forelock and put on his bloomers.
      3. -1
        November 23, 2022
        Quote: Alexander 3
        We are Orthodox for the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit, and these are for whom?

        in Ukraine, there are many more churched people, primarily identifying themselves with the UOC-MP, than in Russia both in quantitative and percentage terms., all the more so, and "we are Orthodox" it's good if we attend the Church twice a year, and a couple of lines from "Our Father" we know.
        1. 0
          November 23, 2022
          Quote from: bdfy_bdfy
          in Ukraine, there are many more churched people, primarily identifying themselves with the UOC-MP, than in Russia, both in quantitative and percentage terms., all the more so

          Can you even provide numbers?
      4. +2
        November 23, 2022
        Judging by the constantly laid out actions of executions of prisoners, atrocities, sweeps, there are definitely no brothers to us there. There are brutalized people who consider the murder and torture of Russians to be valor and heroism. Senseless muttering about brotherhood, the need to free someone from someone .... They made their choice. Now those who stayed there will have to prove the need for a good attitude towards them in Russia. It makes no sense to "protect" - it makes sense to roll out and plow.
        Why is Israel's experience in destroying terrorists on the spot not taken into service? Or are we against Israel? Are we anti-Semites? We must take an example from them - find them on the territory of the Outskirts and destroy them.
      5. +1
        November 23, 2022
        Quote: Alexander 3
        We are Orthodox for the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit, and these are for whom?

        These ? These .... One country, one faith, one people. - “One people, one Reich, one country” (German: “Ein Volk, ein Reich, ein Führer” and their Fuhrer is Zelensky’s Jew Bandera ..
    2. +3
      November 23, 2022
      Faith cannot be banned, but requisitioning valuables is welcome.
      1. -1
        November 23, 2022
        Forgive them Lord, for they do not know what they are doing!
        1. +3
          November 23, 2022
          A new religious war flares up in Europe.
          And a new crusade of the OCU against the ROC! Lived up! am
        2. +4
          November 23, 2022
          Quote: ohtsistem
          Forgive them Lord, for they do not know what they are doing!

          they all know
        3. +2
          November 23, 2022
          they even know very well .... the second stage will begin to throw out the relics of the saints, including Muromets
        4. -3
          November 23, 2022
          I think the Lord will forgive them, since you ask Him about it.
          1. +1
            November 23, 2022
            I think the Lord will forgive them, since you ask Him about it.
            Yes, forgive me. But only in hell.
        5. +3
          November 23, 2022
          They all know and understand. You don't have to make them stupid. The beast remains the beast. And you don't have to forgive them.
          1. 0
            November 23, 2022
            Quote: zloybond
            ....... Beast ...... Beast.....

            Not certainly in that way. The Beast does not seek to torment its "enemy". The wolf does not torture the ram, and vice versa. And intraspecific squabbling is also without hatred and without the desire to completely eliminate any biological species (or group of species). Humans are different. We, unlike most animals, have a great advantage in the struggle for existence--- INTELLIGENCE! Which we have the power to use for its intended purpose. And these ... you can’t even call them dill ... they no longer have intelligence. Involution!
            And you don't have to forgive them
    3. 0
      November 23, 2022
      You do not confuse faith and religion, faith can be only one in the Creator, and he is one. There are many religions. It is not possible to forbid people to believe, churches will be taken away and they will go into sketes, but the Orthodox faith will be preserved.
      1. +2
        November 23, 2022
        You do not teach a person who is related to religion, even if it is exactly. But to faith, it is respectful, if it is worthy of it.
        Not by words, but by deeds, that's the only way.
    4. +1
      November 23, 2022
      Quote: rocket757
      A draft law on banning the Russian Orthodox Church in Ukraine has been submitted to the Verkhovna Rada
      They can ban the ROC... they are not the first. BUT, FAITH cannot be banned, time-tested !!!
      Where are all those persecutors of FAITH, sunk into oblivion ... and FAITH, as it was, is.

      I would like to shout your words into the ears of those Armed Forces of Ukraine that they have been shooting Donbass for all these eight years and burning the defenseless in Odessa and continue to shoot civilians and prisoners now on the former territory of the Ukrainian SSR, but it seems that this is already pointless.
      But behind these AFU are their mothers and fathers, wives and children, who silently looked and look at these crimes, agreeing with them in many respects.

      I don’t know if anyone in the former Ukrainian SSR is ready to stand up for the faith of their ancestors, except for the Donbass, Crimea and part of the eastern regions, but there are no such people yet.
      1. +3
        November 23, 2022
        Unfortunately, the process of dehumanization, on the other hand, is carried out by experienced shrinks!
        They have done a lot of troubles, they have already done and continue their dirty work!
        This is a boomerang and it will return, not to those specific reptiles, but to their descendants!
        1. +2
          November 23, 2022
          No, the boomerang will return to the "concrete" bastards, and the descendants of these bastards will continue their worthless life in Canada, Europe and the USA in the role of unnecessary growth.
          1. +1
            November 23, 2022
            I hope the oceans will fly over the seas! Everything in the world is interconnected, and after our victory, they, their own rot, will begin to corrode everything and everyone !!!
            Such cases do not pass without consequences for anyone.
            1. +1
              November 23, 2022
              It will fly, it is already flying to well-fed and imposing Europe, it will fly across the ocean, this is a long-term process. Wanted to destroy Russia? They will fall apart on their own, to be honest, I will enjoy this leisurely and painstaking process of the collapse of the "mother countries" (as they like to call themselves). As for Ukraine, this is just a tool in the capable hands of geopoliticians, like Taiwan for China and the United States, or Nagorno-Karabakh with Kazakhstan for the Turks with their "great Turan".
    5. +2
      November 23, 2022
      They banned a lot of things, demolished a lot of monuments, only one question - for a long time all this? Of course not, because all these populist tricks and decisions are of a one-time nature. All this will be canceled, if not by them, then by the authorities of Little Russia, New Rus' and Carpathian Rus.
      1. +1
        November 23, 2022
        In order for peace and human power to reign there, you will have to put a lot of effort, and lives too.
        Alas, the sabbath is in full swing, for no reason, leveling it will not work.
        1. +2
          November 23, 2022
          Yes, it just won’t work out easily, of course, but we have no other choice, either they are us, or we are them. Victory will be ours. The enemy will be defeated.
  2. +2
    November 23, 2022
    Here you go. Well, I immediately wrote that all these chants were organized by the SBU.
  3. Two
    0
    November 23, 2022
    hi Popov tricks! Kiryukha, oh how I don't want to lose income from Svidomland! Considering that there are much more smokers "opium for the people" than in Russia. And at the present time, the church is not a bond, just a business that does not pay taxes (the Russian Orthodox Church is a public organization that operates on voluntary contributions from participants). Yes, and "Breguet" Kiryukha did not remove, did not donate to the needs of the NWO!
    1. -1
      November 23, 2022
      Quote: Dos
      Popov tricks

      Clear day! It's not faith, but money at stake!
  4. +1
    November 23, 2022
    ROC, UOC, OCU serve in different ways or different images of Christ? Tomorrow, Jessus will be recognized as an agent of the GDP, these will become. So it will go, like a campaign, they will give a deadline for the "Our Father", or even to the wall.
    1. +1
      November 23, 2022
      Quote from uprun
      ROC, UOC, OCU serve in different ways or different images of Christ? Tomorrow, Jessus will be recognized as an agent of the GDP, these will become. So it will go, like a campaign, they will give a deadline for the "Our Father", or even to the wall.

      All are the same, it's just that money is dripping from believers into different pockets.
  5. +2
    November 23, 2022
    The Verkhovna Rada submitted a bill to ban the Russian Orthodox Church in Ukraine

    history develops in a spiral, all this has already happened
    1. -3
      November 23, 2022
      Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir
      history develops in a spiral, all this has already happened

      Taras Bulba is just an artistic image created by N.V. Gogol, and this character has no parallels with the real story, no matter how pathetic his literary text sounds.
      1. +2
        November 23, 2022
        Quote from: bdfy_bdfy
        Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir
        history develops in a spiral, all this has already happened

        Taras Bulba is just an artistic image created by N.V. Gogol, and this character has no parallels with the real story, no matter how pathetic his literary text sounds.

        Do you think Gogol did not know what he was writing about? Didn't study the topic?
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      2. +1
        November 23, 2022
        Seryozha, don’t turn on the fool, you perfectly understood what I wrote about and the Russians were oppressed, and Orthodoxy was spread rot, and I attached Bulba as an image, but you definitely wanted to get to the bottom
  6. +1
    November 23, 2022
    with the banning of the Orthodox Church of the Moscow Patriarchate, the religion that the authorities of Ukraine and the hierarchs who sold themselves to Constantinople will call Orthodox will not disappear in Ukraine. All property, monasteries, laurels and churches will be transferred to the schismatic Ukrainian Orthodox Church. Moreover, the Orthodox from the Church of the Moscow Patriarchate will not go to the sketes to pray. as Orthodox schismatics, Ukrainians pray in theirs Orthodox churches. And for the first half of the year, the former parishioners of the Church of the Moscow Patriarchate will not find anything terrible and harmful there. They will go to pray together. But knowing how urgently Catholicism, together with Bandera, reshaped the brains of millions of former Orthodox in Western Ukraine, one should not be surprised at this. if many former parishioners of the Churches of the Moscow Patriarchate in Kyiv and Pochaev in a year start shouting "glory to the heroes of Ukraine"
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    2. +1
      November 23, 2022
      Quote: North 2
      with the banning of the Orthodox Church of the Moscow Patriarchate, the religion that the authorities of Ukraine and the hierarchs who sold themselves to Constantinople will call Orthodox will not disappear in Ukraine. All property, monasteries, laurels and churches will be transferred to the schismatic Ukrainian Orthodox Church. Moreover, the Orthodox from the Church of the Moscow Patriarchate will not go to the sketes to pray. as Orthodox schismatics, Ukrainians pray in theirs Orthodox churches. And for the first half of the year, the former parishioners of the Church of the Moscow Patriarchate will not find anything terrible and harmful there. They will go to pray together. But knowing how urgently Catholicism, together with Bandera, reshaped the brains of millions of former Orthodox in Western Ukraine, one should not be surprised at this. if many former parishioners of the Churches of the Moscow Patriarchate in Kyiv and Pochaev in a year start shouting "glory to the heroes of Ukraine"

      Therefore, Kyiv and Lavra cannot be left to the Ukronazi-Satanists.
  7. +2
    November 23, 2022
    Some townspeople dispersed. They decided to bend the stick even more, no matter how it crackled.
  8. +2
    November 23, 2022
    And what now, they are moving the whole country to the Uniate Greek Catholic religion?

    And the population of Ukraine is aware that their religion in the country is now different, and old icons can no longer be used, should they switch to new ones with Bandera or Zelensky on the icon?
  9. +2
    November 23, 2022
    We all understand perfectly well that every day the state of 404 is getting closer to the empire of satanism and sodomy. By perverting human values, this empire recruits into its ranks brute people for whom there is no morality, no ethics, no compassion.
    Maybe now, the Supreme (there in the Kremlin) will understand where to move Russia, with whom to communicate and make friends, and how to deal with a neighbor who has lost his mind.
    Has Russia really fallen into the fate of an eternal battle with evil?! Isn't there really no way to determine its essence and completely eliminate it?!
  10. +2
    November 23, 2022
    This is the end of Ukraine as a state. Finally turn these lands into Mordor. And God cleans Mordor
    1. +2
      November 23, 2022
      Quote from: ReTeplov
      This is the end of Ukraine as a state

      The most literate comment - said briefly and intelligibly.
      1. -4
        November 23, 2022
        Here, fables have been told about the end for 9 years, isn’t it funny yourself?
        1. +2
          November 23, 2022
          Quote: Bomb
          Here, fables have been told about the end for 9 years, isn’t it funny yourself?

          Why fables? Have you looked at the map?
          That Ukraine that was in the 91st year ... in 2013, that is, 9 years ago, is NO LONGER!
          And you didn't notice.
  11. 0
    November 23, 2022
    Why so modest? They would take it and legally accept that in Ukraine the state religion is Catholicism.
  12. +2
    November 23, 2022
    When the government interferes in religion, one has to wait for the conflict to escalate.
  13. +4
    November 23, 2022
    In fact, after a break of several centuries, a new religious war is flaring up in Europe. It is being conducted by the secret services of Western countries through the hands of the Kyiv regime in order to completely destroy Russian Orthodoxy.


    Yes, this is a war against us, or rather an integral part of the war ...
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  15. -1
    November 23, 2022
    In the form in which it now resides, it would be a great decision to ban it in Russia as well.
  16. 0
    November 23, 2022
    The liberation of Ukraine from the ROC is another step towards a free and independent Ukraine

    Satanists.
  17. 0
    November 23, 2022
    In addition to the civil war, half-witted people also want to get a religious one - are there not enough problems?

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