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The President of Poland actually denied Zelensky's statement about the admission of "Ukrainian experts" to the investigation of the missile fall near Lublin

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The President of Poland actually denied Zelensky's statement about the admission of "Ukrainian experts" to the investigation of the missile fall near Lublin

The press service of the President of Poland circulates Andrzej Duda's commentary on Volodymyr Zelensky's statements about "admission of Ukrainians to investigate the explosions in Przewoduw". Recall that a few hours ago, the head of the Kyiv regime announced the alleged decision of the Polish authorities to organize the admission of the Ukrainian side to the investigation of the case of a rocket explosion in the Polish region of Lublin.


The President of Poland had to actually refute Zelensky's statement.

According to Duda, representatives of Ukraine "can get acquainted with the investigation into the fall of the rocket in Poland, but not participate in this investigation."

The Polish president noted that a commission of the Prosecutor General's Office of Poland, "which has enough resources to establish all the circumstances of the explosions" in the Lublin region, is working on the spot.

Earlier, the Polish authorities said that "with a high probability, the rocket that exploded in Pszewoduv was a Ukrainian air defense missile." To this, Zelensky declared "his confidence that the strike was not Ukrainian."

Thus, Duda made it clear to Zelensky (especially after statements and calls from Washington) that he should not interfere in the situation. Recall that earlier in NATO they made it clear to Warsaw itself that it was not necessary to activate the 4th (consultation), and even more so the 5th (“protective”) clause of the NATO charter in connection with the missile fall near Lublin.
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  1. SaLaR
    SaLaR 17 November 2022 20: 14
    +16
    The godfather put the fraer in place ................ bully
    1. Rustic
      Rustic 17 November 2022 20: 16
      +18
      Rather, the godfather gave a kick to the six, and already the six identified the chmoshnik at the bucket.
    2. Buffoon
      Buffoon 17 November 2022 20: 23
      +6
      Quote: SaLaR
      The godfather put the fraer in place ................ bully

      Namely, and already openly calling it a liar, which it really is .. And the Poles also sat in a puddle laughing laughing Their air defense did not work at all, like the "Patriots" are standing there
      Meanwhile, rocket strikes continue throughout the outskirts, and rightly so! Russophobia should be costly for any state in the world .. Enough have suffered
      1. Nexcom
        Nexcom 17 November 2022 20: 34
        +8
        By the way, yes, how did the Polish Patriots blew the ancient S-300? Generations of systems are different for any ... what And obviously the S-300 missile is an older system. Panov did not really learn how to use? Or does it turn out to be a Patriot - fake? Then the Saudis also clicked ....
        1. Buffoon
          Buffoon 17 November 2022 21: 19
          +5
          Quote: Nexcom
          By the way, yes, how did the Polish Patriots blew the ancient S-300? Generations of systems are different for any ... what And obviously the S-300 missile is an older system. Panov did not really learn how to use? Or does it turn out to be a Patriot - fake? Then the Saudis also clicked ....

          That's why Biden barked to shut everyone up. They wanted to work a provocation, but it turns out they humiliated the United States with their "Patriots", etc. The air defense-missile defense system does not work for them, for some time the Saudis also sit in a puddle
        2. Div Divich
          Div Divich 17 November 2022 23: 00
          0
          Quote: Nexcom
          Or does it turn out to be a Patriot - fake? Then the Saudis also clicked ....


          Buying a Patriot is throwing money away!
        3. Popov I.P.
          Popov I.P. 18 November 2022 07: 47
          +1
          Any SAM is a difficult target to hit in flight because of speed and maneuverability. No one in the world makes special missiles to destroy other missiles. I read that in the USSR, the S-75, S-125 missiles of the old park were converted into targets for newer air defense systems and were used for this purpose at the Ashuluk training ground. According to our military experts in the field of air defense, S-300 missiles can theoretically be shot down with S-400 and S-500 systems, but has anyone tried to do this in practice? Again, it must be borne in mind that the S-300 is Ukrainian: (the newest missile defense system manufactured in the late 80s with a service life of 10 years with the possibility of extension for another 5 years in the factory, while all missile defense plants in the Russian Federation) when operated by APU personnel . So far, UkroPVO is dangerous not only for neighbors, but also for the most independent: even in Kyiv, UkroZUR is hit several houses a week, as a rule, without causing damage to Russian weapons. Specifically, in our case, the S-300 940 srp of the Armed Forces of Ukraine in the normal mode should fly towards the Russian KR, i.e. to the east, but for some reason they flew in the opposite direction - west to Poland, and the KR - successfully hit the planned targets.
  2. Alexior_Brante
    Alexior_Brante 17 November 2022 20: 15
    +6
    First Biden, and now Duda - well, that's right. Know your place, Ukraine, they said.
    1. Nyrobsky
      Nyrobsky 17 November 2022 22: 42
      +3
      Quote from: Alexior_Brante
      First Biden, and now Duda - well, that's right. Know your place, Ukraine, they said.

      Soon they will probably see off the Zelu. Everyone is fed up with it, and there is some kind of conflict with the babos there, in the sense that the Democrats drove money to Ukraine, and they went through the crypto-exchange to finance the elections of the Democrats.
  3. SKVichyakow
    SKVichyakow 17 November 2022 20: 15
    +2
    So in Ukraine they already deny in general the very fact of the work of their air defense. We supposedly did not use air defense at all. So this is definitely Russia. "Everything is mixed up in the Oblonskys' house."
    1. dedusik
      dedusik 17 November 2022 20: 20
      +1
      Yes, they do not deny that on November 16, Ukrainian air defense officers said that they were trying to shoot down a missile in the area of ​​​​impact in Poland, even CNN wrote about this
      1. Kerensky
        Kerensky 17 November 2022 22: 33
        +2
        Ukrainian air defense officers said they were trying to shoot down a missile in the area of ​​impact in Poland,

        And who are they counting on? Where is that rocket, fled?
        If they fired at a rocket:
        1. Hit (air explosion of two missiles)
        2. Missed (air blast - self-destruction of missiles)
        But if they fired at a ground target, then a special mode must be turned on BEFORE launch (otherwise launch is impossible). Then the missile defense system will have a ground detonation.
        Our case.
        1. PavelT
          PavelT 18 November 2022 01: 24
          0
          And where did they get the idea that there were 2 missiles? Where did it come from? Two funnels? Looks like it's not just one photo.
          Did you see/heard two explosions?
          1. Kerensky
            Kerensky 18 November 2022 08: 18
            0
            And where did they get the idea that there were 2 missiles?

            Normally, missiles do not go one at a time. For a guaranteed defeat, the consumption is two.
            The Poles talk about missiles - they know better on the spot ...
            The calculation of the complex is likely to "disappear", like those dispatchers ...
          2. SKVichyakow
            SKVichyakow 18 November 2022 13: 45
            +1
            Quote: PavelT
            And where did they get the idea that there were 2 missiles? Where did it come from? Two funnels? Looks like it's not just one photo.
            Did you see/heard two explosions?

            There was a video in which the fall of two rockets was seen, like the fall of fireballs.
      2. SKVichyakow
        SKVichyakow 18 November 2022 10: 41
        0
        Quote: dedusik
        Yes, they do not deny that on November 16, Ukrainian air defense officers said that they were trying to shoot down a missile in the area of ​​​​impact in Poland, even CNN wrote about this

        Zelensky's latest speech already denies the very fact of using their air defense.
        1. dedusik
          dedusik 18 November 2022 13: 39
          0
          Well, you can't throw words out of a song
          The Ukrainian military told the US and its allies that they were trying to intercept a Russian missile during and near the site of a missile attack on Poland, a US official told CNN. https://edition.cnn.com/europe/live-news/russia- ukraine-war-news-11-16-22/h_b1d78d9614fa2af99d5b741b5e412b68
    2. Nexcom
      Nexcom 17 November 2022 20: 22
      +3
      Oga, Kyyuv is out of business, it was Russia who sent a DRG with a launcher that fired at a Polish tractor with manure, and then returned back after successfully hitting the target. It's already happened somewhere... laughing

      PS What kind of manure did the Poles have that they did not spare 2 missiles on it? what
      1. DymOk_v_dYmke
        DymOk_v_dYmke 17 November 2022 21: 21
        0
        Quote: Nexcom
        What kind of manure did the Poles have that they did not spare 2 missiles on it?

        Whether there were two arrivals in a tractor or one - it is not clear.
        If two. then the debris must be from two missiles.
        Talk about who heard what - emptiness.
        Especially considering the speed of sound and the location of the "listener".

        In the past, there were reports that at the training ground, having missed a training target, a rocket captured something on the ground and gouged.
        1. Nexcom
          Nexcom 17 November 2022 21: 29
          +2
          What kind of tractor is this for the Poles, that their anti-aircraft missile captured as a target, if so ?? what
          1. DymOk_v_dYmke
            DymOk_v_dYmke 17 November 2022 21: 32
            0
            "On lack of fish and cancer fish." fellow
          2. BedMax
            BedMax 17 November 2022 22: 11
            0
            Overheated removing apples into the ground)))))))))
          3. Kerensky
            Kerensky 17 November 2022 22: 39
            +1
            what kind of tractor is the Poles that their anti-aircraft missile captured as a target,

            The signature of the target (tractor) is simply required to be included in the missile defense system. At what height was that tractor spotted? They shot clearly beyond the radio horizon (100 km distance)
        2. PavelT
          PavelT 18 November 2022 01: 35
          +1
          And where did they get the idea that there were 2 missiles? Where did it come from? Two funnels? It seems not only a funnel photo.
          Did you see/heard two explosions? Or not?

          In principle, I don’t believe that two missiles from the S-300 complex could hit one ground target the size of a tractor with a trailer 50-60 km from the launch site (the Polish village of Przewoduv, Lublin Voivodeship, is located 60 km from the Ukrainian town of Kamenka-Bugskaya, where deployed the 540th anti-aircraft missile regiment with 3 S-300PT divisions - https://www.gazeta.ru/army/2022/11/16/15793975.shtml).
          This is simply impossible, even if this tractor would stand in an open field. And then there is a huge metal grain dryer, against its background, the tractor is not a target at all. How could TWO missiles hit him ???
          1. Nexcom
            Nexcom 18 November 2022 07: 59
            0
            well, let not 2 missiles. let alone. does it make a big difference?
  4. dmi.pris
    dmi.pris 17 November 2022 20: 17
    +1
    You already decide there .. Who is in what position ..
    1. Reptiloid
      Reptiloid 17 November 2022 20: 24
      +3
      Quote: dmi.pris
      ..... Who is in what position..

      Ha-ha-ha! What a bummer to the zelebobus! For 20 minutes on g20 he played the fool for everyone, otherwise they don’t invite you to Poland, wassat after all the hugs.
      1. Nexcom
        Nexcom 17 November 2022 20: 26
        +3
        well, they have to bang in the gums - separately, politics - separately
        1. Reptiloid
          Reptiloid 17 November 2022 20: 43
          +2
          Quote: Nexcom
          well, they have to bang in the gums ....

          It seems like greenery and with a macron ..... in general there are different photos on the net, like kissing with different men .... fie. like with a piglet negative negative Ugh
          1. Nexcom
            Nexcom 17 November 2022 20: 46
            0
            yes sideways with whom he bangs.

            tttttttttttttt
            1. Reptiloid
              Reptiloid 17 November 2022 21: 00
              +2
              It's funny that all the dill is looking at this. So what? Approves.
    2. DymOk_v_dYmke
      DymOk_v_dYmke 17 November 2022 21: 27
      +1
      Quote: dmi.pris
      You already decide there .. Who is in what position ..

      The owner will decide.
      Airspace control in Ukraine and Poland, and real-time target designation. As far as I understand, he does. hi
  5. Murmur 55
    Murmur 55 17 November 2022 20: 17
    +3
    So Zelensky is put in his place, to see Duda and Washington have already decided everything and they don’t need clowns yet, but Kyiv did not understand this right away and it skidded.
  6. Shimoza
    Shimoza 17 November 2022 20: 18
    +4
    Well, of course ... Take it, and allow the alleged perpetrator of the crime to be investigated ...
    1. Pharmacist
      Pharmacist 17 November 2022 20: 23
      +1
      Yeah, it's like letting a goat into the garden! laughing
  7. Egoza
    Egoza 17 November 2022 20: 19
    +4
    Duda made it clear to Zelensky (especially after statements and calls from Washington) that he should not interfere in the situation.

    Well, it didn't get to him. DID NOT REACH! And if so, then it is necessary to curtail his plan. There, the commander of the ukrovoyska is already ready to change the green, and he is still trying to prove something!
    1. Buffoon
      Buffoon 17 November 2022 20: 31
      +1
      Quote: Egoza
      Well, it didn't get to him. DID NOT REACH!

      But Ze cannot be otherwise, he has entered the role too much.
      Quote: Egoza
      There, the commander of the ukrovoyska is already ready to change the green, and he is still trying to prove something!

      There, like Bandera, they want to hang him on Khreshchatyk? He already stole a couple of lards and the kagal there also has a center gesheft .. And horses are dying en masse on the eastern front and there is no one to ride already .. There is already no one to mobilize, if only the Poles are asked to help gather a herd of Westerners in Poland and drive them to slaughter ..
      1. Uncle lee
        Uncle lee 18 November 2022 02: 29
        +1
        Quote: Buff
        gather a herd of Westerners in Poland and drive to the slaughter ..

        And Westerners from Canada, too, and dispose of! And forever close the issue of Westerners!
    2. Reptiloid
      Reptiloid 17 November 2022 20: 47
      +2
      Quote: Egoza
      ..... Well, it didn't get to him. DID NOT REACH! ...!

      And it will never come! He thinks that he is the most important of all, demands, threatens.
    3. Leon68
      Leon68 18 November 2022 11: 35
      +1
      Yes, nothing. The drug addict turned the arrows on Zaluzhny. They say Yon mine, the commander-in-chief, reported that it was the Muscovites who banged. And how can I not trust my brother. And bass.
  8. notingem
    notingem 17 November 2022 20: 49
    +1
    Comment to the photo .Duda : Wu, how he stinks
  9. Sebostyuan
    Sebostyuan 17 November 2022 21: 31
    +2
    Zelu today - mokali, the whole day. I'll be patient and watch his performance tonight. It should be interesting how this p...d..la will justify herself.
  10. Landwarrior
    Landwarrior 17 November 2022 21: 48
    +1
    Ukraine will conduct its own investigation laughing
  11. Anton Boldakov
    Anton Boldakov 17 November 2022 22: 45
    +1
    Somehow I stopped understanding the frills of this policy ... in theory, they now have to bring down "dead dogs" on Russia with bulldozers, and they, in fact, protect us.
    1. smart fellow
      smart fellow 18 November 2022 00: 06
      +2
      Poles and Americans were afraid of war with Russia. Let the Ukrainians be killed, they are not sorry. In fact, the US does not want Ukraine to win. Russia is more important to them as a source of natural resources and because of nuclear weapons, but they need a weak Russia and the Ukrainian conflict is a great way to achieve this.
    2. Uncle lee
      Uncle lee 18 November 2022 02: 34
      +2
      Quote: Anton Boldakov
      should bring down "dead dogs" on Russia with bulldozers,

      They admitted that the missile was Ukrainian, but this was by accident, request therefore, without a showdown .... But the Russians are to blame - firing missiles at Ukraine!
  12. Jsem_CZEKO68
    Jsem_CZEKO68 17 November 2022 22: 58
    +1
    They are sad... It must be their tractor! But Zeleni compensates Poland with the export of refugees.
  13. Plate
    Plate 17 November 2022 23: 25
    +1
    It's funny. For the second time, Zelensky is rolling out his Wishlist to the public as if it had already come true.
  14. sent26
    sent26 18 November 2022 00: 47
    +1
    It's embarrassing how it happened.
    Zelensky's "we have the right" was given an unequivocal answer - beggars have no rights.
  15. Vladimir Vladimirovich Vorontsov
    Vladimir Vladimirovich Vorontsov 18 November 2022 04: 21
    +1
    Thus, Duda made it clear to Zelensky (especially after statements and calls from Washington) that he should not interfere in the situation.

    ***


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  16. Uprun
    Uprun 18 November 2022 08: 08
    +1
    The clown was shown his place....and it still stinks.
  17. Arifon
    Arifon 18 November 2022 08: 42
    +1
    I think it would be better like this...