American general: The probability of Ukraine's victory in the near future from a military point of view cannot be called high

The head of the Joint Chiefs of Staff of the US Army Mark Milley again made a statement in which he made it clear that the Ukrainian plans to "liberate the country's territories within the 1991 borders" will continue to be plans - nothing more.

General Milli noted that today the probability that Ukraine will be able to "liberate its entire territory, including the Crimean peninsula," is extremely low.

American General:

The probability of Ukraine's victory in the near future from a military point of view cannot be called high.

Attention is drawn to the fact that this is the second statement of this nature by Mark Milli in the last few days. Earlier, he said that the situation is developing in such a way that "a window of opportunity appears for negotiations between Kyiv and Moscow." At the same time, the head of the American version of the General Staff said that everything was going to the point that no clear winner in the armed conflict between Ukraine and Russia would be revealed in the near future, and hostilities could "become much less intense for a period of up to six months."

After those statements, there was a fuss in Kyiv, stating that the American general was "saying the wrong things." The National Security and Defense Council of Ukraine announced that "all territories of the country will soon be liberated - and Crimea too."

Milli now actually repeats his arguments, which leads the Ukrainian regime to additional negative. If this is not a game for the public, then it can be assumed that the United States has nevertheless begun to push the Zelensky regime to find a compromise. Perhaps this is connected with the statement of the head of the Kyiv regime that the "partners" let him know "the presence of Moscow's readiness for negotiations." Recall that Zelensky announced his readiness to conduct only "open, not behind-the-scenes" negotiations.

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[Vladimir Vladimirovich Vorontsov]

The probability of Ukraine's victory in the near future from a military point of view can not be called high

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[laws70]

Diplomatically!

Come on! Where is Millie, and where is diplomacy?! Well, if this hawk started talking about problems with the Armed Forces of Ukraine, then Surovikin is doing everything right ..

[evgenii67]

Quote from: laws70

Diplomatically!

Come on! Where is Millie, and where is diplomacy?! Well, if this hawk started talking about problems with the Armed Forces of Ukraine, then Surovikin is doing everything right ..

For good, it’s time to recognize not the NWO, but the war, to recognize all those who supply weapons to UGil as a party to the conflict, to begin with, to break economic and political ties with all these countries. Let them stock up on firewood and make cars out of wood and plastic. In Ugil, all bridges, railway nodes and substations and power plants, enterprises that can go to the defense industry should be in ruins and all storage facilities with fuel and lubricants, including gas storage facilities, have been destroyed so that they can go to the front by steam locomotives or on their own.

If all this is not done, then sooner or later they will crush us. There, the only way out is to use tactical nuclear weapons, and then strategic ones, or surrender to Uncle Sam.

[4ekist]

American General:
The probability of Ukraine's victory in the near future from a military point of view cannot be called high.

And "reparations" are already being received.

[Zoldat_A]

Quote: Vladimir Vladimirovich Vorontsov

The probability of Ukraine's victory in the near future from a military point of view can not be called high

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It would be nice to have a pensioner - they usually get smarter in retirement. And then... it's not clear...

He is sitting at the post - he would bite his tongue, otherwise they will kick him out of retirement for disagreeing with the "general line of the party and government." I forgot, perhaps, that they do not have a "totalitarian regime" there, but a "democracy"? With their "democracy" such things are like two fingers on the asphalt. "Democratically"...

[dauria]

- Diplomatically! ...

Yeah. The United States judiciously decided "A tit in the hands is better than a pie in the sky." Ukraine was torn off from the Russian Federation for a long time, you can stop there for now. Settle in , so to speak , new estates . Navkat military bases and so on. Well done, competently and figs expel.

[Murmur 55]

The information "com" about the negotiations continues to grow and involve new players from both sides. But what will this lead to and who and what will receive the question, and I think that soon we will get answers. But I don’t know if we will like those answers and those results, the worst thing that can happen is a “freeze”.

[dmi.pris1]

Yes, there is too much talk about these "negotiations". If ours give back, stop at the liberated areas, then everyone will understand further - everything can be done with Russia.

[Monster_Fat]

"News" from the category - "Someone said something" ... "The dog barks, the wind carries" .... "News" such on the topic "said" can be piled around the world "a wagon and a small cart." ... How about "victory"? How much longer? What are they "saying"?

[Alexander Salenko]

This is not someone, but a completely official person, and not just some kind of military expert, I have a question why this is said, because there is a clear message.

[laws70]

The worst thing that can happen is "freeze".

Which will not give us anything: Abrams and F16s will finally be supplied to Ukraine, and the Armed Forces of Ukraine will be retrained for NATO equipment and understaffed with Ukrainian refugees from Europe.

[rotmistr60]

The probability of Ukraine's victory in the near future from a military point of view cannot be called high.

And note that this is said by an American hawk who does not have good feelings for Russia at all, but rather openly hates it. But as it should be, he formulated the Russophobe in such a way that it could be understood that the probability cannot be called high, but it still exists. Such statements, of course, are very upsetting for the Kyiv authorities, which causes a surge of negative emotions in the media and the Internet. Well, let them go in "righteous" anger.

[Egoza]

Quote: rotmistr60

Such statements, of course, are very upsetting for the Kyiv authorities, which causes a surge of negative emotions in the media and the Internet. Well, let them come in "righteous" anger.

What media and the Internet, when they give light for a couple of hours a day? ))) Now I caught it and I'm scribbling until it's turned off. If the light is turned off completely, then the Ukrainians themselves will come to bow.

[Murmur 55]

rotmistr60, perhaps as an option that this is "lulling" Russia and creating the image of a "weak" APU. Inform war has not been canceled.

[Smart ass_]

Well, as they say, the central line of NATO is to arrange a coup in Russia in such a way as to use Russia against China ..
In this vein, one should look at such phrases

[hagen]

Quote: rotmistr60

And note that this is said by an American hawk who does not have good feelings for Russia at all, but rather openly hates it.

It seems to me that neither Milli nor Zelensky are the initiators and independently acting actors in the US-Russia confrontation. They are just persons appointed one for voicing positions, the second for performing some visible actions in the negotiation process without the right to change notes in someone else's score. The negotiators themselves from that side are absent even in the media space, and we don’t know exactly who these people are. But all recent events show that they, too, are already beginning to realize that the steam level in this confrontation cauldron is at its limit, ready to rip off all the safety bolts. Of course, they will not come out of the shadows and will not enter into direct negotiations. They will do this indirectly through official Washington (as we see, the leak of contacts between us has become more frequent. It’s not that there weren’t these contacts before, it’s just that the command was apparently given to show the public that these contacts exist), most likely by reducing the level of arms supplies , and Zelensky (or someone else, but from Ukraine) will be forced to talk, and he foolishly cannot understand what position in communication with Putin (from Russia, of course, he will talk) to choose, and therefore diligently, due to the lack of political instinct , spoiled all possible options. The visits to Kyiv by representatives of the top leadership of the United States are probably not needed to explain to Zelensky his role, but to clearly understand the situation in the leadership of Ukraine and in general in the country in order to subsequently transfer information to the persons who sent them (maybe not even Biden at all). It's just that winter is approaching, and the situation in Europe against the backdrop of the Ukrainian crisis threatens with an elementary revolt of European countries. And the deep state today is faced with the need to reduce the degree, but without losing face. Putin is also ready for negotiations. But there is a nuance here. He did not remove the task of denazification and demilitarization from the NWO. And this means that practically Ukraine is expected to cease resistance, disband the Armed Forces of Ukraine, liquidate national groups and parties. And all this is under the supervision of representatives of the Russian Federation. Just in case the Ukrainian establishment wants to preserve statehood. Otherwise, the exit from Ukraine of the Black Sea regions and the remnants of the left bank will entail large losses for American investors (such as Vanguard, Blackrock and others), who have already invested in Ukraine's fixed assets. We must not forget that all this fuss around Ukraine is a financial matter. There are options for changing elite groups, but there are no prerequisites for this ... Although I am not a political scientist, and I may not know something. It's just the way I see it...

[Alexander Salenko]

But I see everything easier, Ukraine is not made of iron and we have a drain party, so the topic of negotiations is being worked out while Ukraine is on the wave, they took Kherson, and.e. the terms of a truce, if it suddenly happens, will not be the most beneficial for Russia ..

[hagen]

Quote: Alexander Salenko

And I see it easier

Everyone is entitled to their own vision...

[Andy_nsk]

But as it should be, he formulated the Russophobe in such a way that it could be understood that the probability cannot be called high, but it still exists.

I immediately remembered a joke about a blonde who was asked:
- What is the probability of meeting a dinosaur on the street?
- Fifty-fifty - or meet, or not.
Since the likelihood of a Ukronazi victory is about the same, the Pentagon general needed to respond in the same way as the blonde.

[Saboteur_Navy]

I don’t understand, in principle, how can Russia be defeated? Can you only get a Nuclear Strike from Russia? Who needs it? The world is in turmoil...

[Volodin]

Quote: Saboteur_Navy

I don’t understand, in principle, how can Russia be defeated? Can you only get a Nuclear Strike from Russia? Who needs it? The world is in turmoil...

Well, the West has a precedent with the USSR. They count on the option "we can repeat."

We would just step on the old rake less in connection with this

[Saboteur_Navy]

I completely agree with you, I somehow forgot about the USSR

[Zoldat_A]

Quote: Volodin

Well, the West has a precedent with the USSR. They count on the option "we can repeat."

Well, we also have something "we can repeat."

And further.
I once spoke here in the sense that the trouble with the United States is that they do not know how to think creatively, they work according to the training manual - "then it worked - and now it will fail."

Based on their own perception of the world, they deny us the ability to draw lessons from history. Their RAM does not work for more than three days, yesterday's and tomorrow's trip to the supermarket. So they think that the whole world is like that.
And we understood something about the perestroika of the 80s and the "democracy" of the 90s, and the same scenario will not happen.
And they .. A step away from the training manual - and they don’t know what to do.
To assemble a kitchen table from Ikea, they call the masters, not because they are too lazy to mess around, like ours, but because they don’t know how. For the neighbors of my friends living in America, I assembled three wall-mounted kitchen cabinets in an "hour with smoke breaks" - we didn’t admire A. Akopyan like that ... They called him a magician.
Of course, they also have understanding people (ana-white.com, for example, a woman carpenter and carpenter. A lot of men can only envy), but there are few of them. And in politics, just like that, usually everyone is in the mainstream and is afraid to raise their eyes.

This love of "precedents" will finish off America ...

[glock-17]

Bring someone Khodorkovsky to power. He once promised to make Russia a nuclear-free state.

[Lech from Android.]

Ukraine wins as much as our leadership in the Kremlin allows with its agreements and deals.
This question is rather not military but the political will of the Kremlin.

[Zoldat_A]

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Quote: Lech from Android.

Ukraine wins as much as our leadership in the Kremlin allows with its agreements and deals.

The Kremlin is fighting for Ukraine?

Not everything, I think, is so completely bad, but SMERSH needs to be revived. He has accumulated work - do not clear it ...

[Krilion]

nothing .. Russian generals know how to surprise with difficult decisions and gestures of goodwill ... and given the lack of continuation of mobilization measures and the numerical superiority of the Ukrainians, nothing can exclude the fact that maneuvers to leave the territories will begin again in the very near future ..

[Comandor777]

In Kyiv, they are very nervous when their virtual reality collapses.

[Uprun]

There is no doubt, they are preparing a deal. This is a signal to our 5th column to step up action and sabotage.

[Silver99]

Russia will never lose a military conflict near its borders, by the way, I noticed that the current "elite" and deputies-athletes-singers did not give a penny to build a "caliber" or a tank, as ordinary citizens did during the Second World War.

[Uprun]

No matter how she treated Buzova, she collected humanitarian aid for her own and took the fighters to the front. Many believe that the money for armaments has already been paid in taxes, and there is a fear that they will plunder the military-industrial complex for a tank or aircraft. Latent corruption in Russia takes place, there are a lot of examples at the household level.

[Ros 56]

As Milli put it diplomatically, but in our opinion, fuck these Ukronats all over the face about the victory over Russia.

[rocket757]

American general: The probability of Ukraine's victory in the near future from a military point of view cannot be called high

. Interestingly, but whose point of view, whose opinion, is this general projecting ???

[withoutreverse]

this Millie saves the face of our MO .. it is clear that we are losing. but Milli is "sure" that Russia needs negotiations.
it was not Putin who received it, but Zelensky.
- "President of Ukraine Volodymyr Zelensky said that he received certain signals from the leaders of other countries about Russia's desire to start negotiations."

[Alexander Salenko]

Who knows what we're losing? You may understand, but I don't. The surrender of Kherson was a political decision, and not the result of the military efforts of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, they broke their teeth in the Kherson direction, which is obvious, if you follow the news, I'm not talking about Konashenkov's reports.
What is it that Russia doesn’t have that you can’t tell me to win? So there is a fifth column here, and I don’t understand why it was necessary to start the SVO, if you didn’t set the task of winning. Any peace now, this is a truce for the next 8 years, or whatever, and although in fact we snatched Ukrainian territories, in Russia this will be regarded, and quite rightly, as a defeat.

[withoutreverse]

You can repeat the word "halva" 100 times, maybe it will become sweeter from suggestion!

[Alexander Salenko]

I can, but even in the failed REV, which ended in the obscene Peace of Portsmouth, Witte had 300 thousand bayonets and cavalry as an argument, this is a war where we lost all the battles. and the Japanese tempered their appetite.

[the same doctor]

They reassure us so that we relax and give time and opportunity to bring in weapons and mobilize meat. So that roads and bridges are not bombed, power plants are not destroyed.
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And the reality is that if we do not deprive Ukraine of the ability to resist in two months, we will die ourselves. And new inmates will appear in The Hague.

[Kyrgyz]

It seems that the main task was the liberation of the DNR LNR and the solution of the problems of Crimea, the entry of four regions into Russia, these issues are closed, the recognition of the entry of Crimea Kherson Zaporozhye Donetsk Luhansk, the neutral status of Ukraine, the acceptable status of the Russian language, restrictions on the Armed Forces, ideally federalization and denuclearization of the rest of Ukraine, so in general it is possible to conduct negotiations, these acquisitions will not become a heavy burden and the issue with Ukraine is being removed for Russia

[Alexander Salenko]

I do not understand why we need a compromise, I have the impression that it is us who are being pushed towards it.
Here, after the surrender of Kherson, Shariy spread his wings, wrote to him that the war was going on on your territory, Ukraine was a kept country, Russia had a higher mob resource and more equipment.
But judging by the fact that VO is posting such news, will there be a drain not only in Kherson? There was no military defeat there.

[jovanni]

Attention is drawn to the fact that this is the second statement of this nature by Mark Milli in the last few days.

Oh, the general jumps! Here he gets angry with him, complains to the UN, go to Biden (which is almost the same thing), then he will know how to offend the little ones ...

[Kyrgyz]

This is the chief of staff, he will not bear the gag, everything is agreed, if this is translated, it will turn out something like this: the project must be curtailed and the loss fixed, because its continuation is no longer considered worth the cost, success will cost significantly more than originally expected

[Al manah]

Well, we choose to listen to those generals who say what pleases us. But Hodges says something completely different, but we don't listen to him. Dialectics...

[Mint Gingerbread]

Such conversations are counterproductive, they go to reduce their internal stresses. In the United States, they are very actively beginning to be interested in where the billions actually go and, probably, the existing schemes for embezzling significant amounts. Supporting Ukraine is becoming more and more costly and unprofitable, and the risks are growing.

[Al manah]

However, the quote here is not entirely complete (why not?):

"Every time the Russians were defeated. They lost strategically, they lost operationally and, I repeat, they lost tactically. What they tried to do, they failed," he said.
“The strategic rethinking of their goals, their illegal invasion failed,” Milli summed up, citing Russia’s failure to “seize all of Ukraine” at the beginning of the war, as well as focusing on the capture of Donbass, Zaporozhye and Kherson regions.
"Across the entire front line of about 900 kilometers, the Ukrainians achieved success after success, and the Russians were defeated every time," the American general added.

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Источник: https://edition.cnn.com/europe/live-news/russia-ukraine-war-news-11-16-22/h_11edd42e86aa607bea8b10b7908f0392

[iouris]

From a military point of view, the probability of NATO defeat in Ukraine cannot be called high, and the prospect is close. The disposal of obsolete weapons has not been completed.