Kakhovskaya hydroelectric power station was seriously damaged as a result of APU strikes

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Kakhovskaya hydroelectric power station was seriously damaged as a result of APU strikes

Ukrainian military formations continue to strike at the Kakhovskaya hydroelectric power station, the station has received heavy damage, but it can still be restored if certain efforts are made. This was announced by the head of the Novokakhovsk city district Vladimir Leontiev.

Numerous attacks by the Armed Forces of Ukraine led to serious damage to the Kakhovskaya hydroelectric power station, while Ukrainian nationalists do not intend to stop attacks on the dam and the station itself. It was recently reported that as a result of the HIMARS MLRS strike, one of the airlocks was damaged. At the same time, Novaya Kakhovka believes that it is possible to restore the HPP, it will take at least a year. The exact dates will be called by experts.



Since it was built in the shortest possible time, I think that modern technology will restore it quickly enough. Fast enough - I mean, in terms of the universe. We're not talking about it for a few months, of course. It will take a year or more, it should be evaluated by experts

- said Leontiev.

In addition to the Kakhovskaya HPP itself, the Armed Forces of Ukraine are also attacking other large infrastructure facilities, the North Crimean Canal and the Kakhovka Main Canal were damaged. To date, the Kakhovka hydroelectric power station continues to function, but in the event of a dam rupture, which is what Kyiv is trying to achieve, the entire area lying downstream of the Dnieper, including the Zaporozhye nuclear power plant, as well as settlements in the 15-kilometer zone from the river, will fall into the flood zone.

In October of this year, it was decided to increase the release of water through the dam in order to minimize the consequences of a possible dam break. Yesterday it became known that the evacuation of the population and government from the Kakhovka district, including the city of Novaya Kakhovka, is underway. The bridge connecting the right and left banks of the Dnieper was blown up.
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  1. +3
    13 November 2022 10: 26
    And they don’t need the hydroelectric power station at all! It means nothing to the war.
    1. +55
      13 November 2022 10: 28
      How long can we wait for chaos in Kyiv and the evacuation of 3 million people? Occupy you finally Ukraine real business.
      1. +18
        13 November 2022 10: 58
        ..... in the event of a dam blowing, which is what Kyiv is trying to achieve, the entire area will fall into the flood zone ......

        In the light of these events, I see no reason to turn Kuev, and other large prom. objects in the zone of continuous emergencies. Pound so peck.
        1. -8
          13 November 2022 11: 16
          Our leadership is not as bloodthirsty as you!
          1. +25
            13 November 2022 12: 03
            Indeed, it is incredibly kind to banderlogs. And they don't care about theirs.
            1. +4
              13 November 2022 12: 43
              Nothing brings people together like money!
            2. +6
              13 November 2022 12: 49
              What does this kindness have been suffering from madness since the time of Khrushchev ... Until there is uncontrolled chaos throughout the UKRAINE, this chaos will be in Russia .. hi
            3. -1
              13 November 2022 19: 48
              Agree with you completely. Lots of questions with no answers. How will the mobilized guys look at this? They lose motivation! There must be an idea, reasons, goals! Which we unfortunately do not know! But I think not to be confused with THIS IS A CONTRACT AND EVERYTHING IS LOST, that they will still rock this incomprehensible standing near the Dnieper! And my hope does not disappear that we will still beat the APU with cancer!
              1. +2
                13 November 2022 21: 58
                Maybe withdraw troops from Kakhovka to more advantageous positions? Again, sanctions will be lifted from some oligarch, Rotenberg or Potanin, they suffer so much.
          2. 0
            13 November 2022 13: 35
            It is, in fact, neither fish nor meat at all ...
            1. -5
              13 November 2022 14: 09
              Quote: Vlad Victorich
              It is, in fact, neither fish nor meat at all ...

              Well, we are here from the sofa, you know better laughing , we are all geopolitics gurus with access to secret data here wassat

              But seriously, the vast majority of commentators have no idea what "zugzwang" is in general and what "Ukrainian zugzwang" is in particular, which is why they are led to various populist, propaganda, emotional and other slogans.
        2. 0
          13 November 2022 14: 14
          Colonel 4 ekist, remember: "Hitlers come and go, but the German people remain." (Stalin)
          I do not consider myself equal to Stalin, but what about others?
          1. +3
            13 November 2022 15: 54
            Hitlers come and go, but the German people remain

            Nations come and go, but nationalism remains.
            (sad conclusion from World History)
      2. +3
        13 November 2022 11: 58
        Quote from Silver99
        How long can we wait for chaos in Kyiv and the evacuation of 3 million people? Occupy you finally Ukraine real business.


        Campaign soon she will take us. We chew snot further, maybe soon at such a pace and fly to the Kremlin.
        .Biden: “We provide these HIMARS. There are two types, to put it in layman's terms, of rockets that you can put in them: one goes over 600 miles and the other goes about 160 miles. We didn't give them the ones that go 600 miles (965 km) because I don't want them to start bombing Russian territory."

        In the light of this statement, one must understand:

        - Crimea is not considered Russian territory in the United States;

        – 160 miles is more than 257 km;

        - Almost the entire territory of Crimea (except for the South Coast and Kerch) is within the reach of Himars.

        - Ukraine's tactics for the "return" of territories is the destruction of these territories by shelling.
        You should not think that in the case of Crimea, Kyiv will behave differently. Will not lead. Yes, and Washington is well aware of why the States supply Kyiv with missiles capable of hitting Simferopol and Sevastopol.

        https://odnarodyna.org/article/yuzhnyy-front-shtaty-postavyat-ukraine-dalnoboynye-rakety-dlya-rszo-himars



        1. +3
          13 November 2022 14: 45
          Quote from: neworange88
          I wonder - does anyone in our General Staff know how to use Yandex-maps or not?
          I regularly measure measurements like yours, as soon as the first Chimeras arrived in Ukraine.

          And when Biden started counting miles, I made another "ruler" ...

          600 kilometers, Carl!!!
          If there are still no 600-mile "Chimeras" in Ukraine (which I doubt - they are lying, waiting in the wings), then they will definitely be.

          Maybe then the General Staff will learn how to measure distances in Yandex maps?
          1. +5
            13 November 2022 19: 54
            Well, that's right! My opinion is that until they start flying to Moscow, no one will itch much!
      3. +3
        13 November 2022 12: 35
        Occupy you finally Ukraine real business.

        Ukraine sold for 6 billion Abramovich bukazoids.
        1. -1
          13 November 2022 19: 56
          Are you sure about that? Is there any proof?
      4. +3
        13 November 2022 12: 48
        As long as there is no uncontrolled chaos throughout the UKRAINE, this chaos will be in Russia .. hi
      5. +4
        13 November 2022 14: 28
        I. Strelkov said: in order to reach the Dnieper, a million-strong army is needed, to the Polish border - 2 - 2,500 bayonets.
        We have about 600 thousand
        And notice, NOBODY helps us, but them ....
        1. +9
          13 November 2022 15: 29
          Let it be at least 10 million. Roma Abramovich will snap his fingers like in the American movie "Avengers Endgame" and that's it. By the way, Abramovich's friend, an English mercenary, wants to return to Ukraine. Shoot reports about heroic Ukrainians. Truth so far speaks without weapons. Probably lying.
          1. +1
            13 November 2022 16: 26
            Major, where can I get these 10 million?
            Only, declare a general mobilization, and for this it is necessary to introduce martial law throughout Russia.
            Not the population is ready for this, not at the top
      6. 0
        15 November 2022 15: 14
        Who will take them?? Unless he invites Shoigu to tank biathlon.
    2. +8
      13 November 2022 10: 29
      That's right, this is a purely political step, to show the political impotence of the ruling elites, that's it.
    3. +9
      13 November 2022 10: 34
      Actually, it means the Kakhovka reservoir. From there, the ZNPP takes water for cooling. The HPP regulates the water level in the reservoir
      1. +1
        13 November 2022 10: 50
        This is good for a peaceful life! For war, just a water barrier
        1. +3
          13 November 2022 10: 56
          The water barrier is primarily for the Armed Forces of Ukraine .. We went on the defensive in the south. Do you propose to lower the level in Kakhovskoye?
          1. Hey
            +2
            13 November 2022 11: 03
            And how is the water in the Crimea?

            According to experts, there will be enough water in the Crimean Canal for several years. Moreover, earlier measures were taken there to fill the canal from local sources.
            1. +7
              13 November 2022 11: 21
              They filled half of the channel with a maximum of local sources. The opinion of experts ... I don’t know how authoritative it is, but in 2014 the water left very quickly.
              1. +2
                13 November 2022 14: 38
                "half of the channel" was shown on TV in the spring: how they let water into the canal and the krychans almost danced with joy.
                At my house, the well is 11 m and the pump did not pull. I had to drill a 25 m well. And I have not suffered from drought for 2 years, but I live in the Kuban and we have better water than in the Crimea
                1. 0
                  13 November 2022 14: 50
                  So fellow countrymen. And the Crimeans were really delighted. I watched the reports of I. Krsakov hi
                  1. 0
                    13 November 2022 16: 29
                    How is the water in your area? Kuban is quite big
                    1. 0
                      13 November 2022 16: 47
                      Not bad at all. Artesian (for drinking) is soft. White Clay. Near the river, the water layer is not deep. Well, you need to drill 12 meters. It’s already deep on a hill.
                      1. 0
                        15 November 2022 14: 27
                        I have a hard one. Near the reservoir
                2. 0
                  14 November 2022 10: 51
                  Hmm. I have a well 42 meters and is not very surprising. So ... Although the men on the forums from Crimea wrote that they drilled at 150 (!) And did not find anything, they found only at 200 meters
            2. +6
              13 November 2022 11: 53
              Well, yes, otherwise Uncle Burkhalter from Switzerland will come again and put the guarantor in a corner ...
          2. 0
            13 November 2022 20: 04
            Crimean Canal, below on the map. While water flows there, several streams. Funny brothers. They opened a channel. I can’t understand at all, our rulers said that several stations were built to desalinate the Crimean water. And you don't need a channel. I was in the Crimea this summer, just when they hit the Saki. Driving through the canal, I wanted to tell my wife that the canal was full, but I saw it was a little wet!!! What fear is the question?
      2. +1
        13 November 2022 11: 21
        From there ZNPP takes water for cooling.

        From a closed-loop cooling pond. The Zaporizhzhya NPP is still not working now, all reactors are shut down.
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    4. +3
      13 November 2022 11: 02
      Quote: seregatara1969
      And they don’t need the hydroelectric power station at all! It means nothing to the war.

      They don't need anything. As they say, as it comes, so it goes. They understand that it will never be them again, so they destroy cities and everything they can reach. We need to quickly destroy their infrastructure and supply routes, otherwise "these are not brothers" will make Mariupol out of everything.
      1. 0
        13 November 2022 16: 36
        "supply routes" the most effective means is to block the Polish border, and we have enough strength for this.
        "father" sits and does not blow in his mustache. And if he hit something: "put out the light, drain the water"
        1. +1
          13 November 2022 16: 42
          Quote: vladcub
          "supply routes" the most effective means is to block the Polish border, and we have enough strength for this.
          "daddy" sits and does not blow in his mustache. And if he hit something: "put out the light, drain the water"

          He won't answer or hit. There is no need to hope for this. And to close the border, we need: additional forces, and to ensure them safe supply routes.
    5. 0
      13 November 2022 17: 37
      Quote: seregatara1969
      And they don’t need the hydroelectric power station at all! It means nothing to the war.

      There is no need for a hydroelectric power station, a breakthrough of the dam is needed to flood the ZapNPP, the instructions of the owner must be followed unquestioningly. The grace and kind look of the owner is more important than the hydroelectric power station.
  2. +14
    13 November 2022 10: 26
    . Yesterday it became known that the evacuation of the population and government from the Kakhovka district, including the city of Novaya Kakhovka, is underway. The bridge connecting the right and left banks of the Dnieper was blown up.


    I have no words. Crimea again without water? New Kakhovka, like Kherson, we will give to Ukraine? What is happening?
    1. +12
      13 November 2022 10: 29
      neworange88 hi, you could answer you, but now it’s kind of like an article, Norkin said well about this.
      1. +1
        13 November 2022 10: 46
        Something seems to me that they will soon adopt a law on responsibility for voting in elections. Or there will be no elections at all.
        1. +1
          13 November 2022 11: 49
          Martial law. It was long overdue.
          1. -1
            13 November 2022 12: 13
            Quote: stankow
            Martial law. It was long overdue.


            So it has long been introduced in the border regions. Otherwise, Ukraine does not threaten the rest of the non-border regions.
            1. +2
              13 November 2022 13: 39
              According to the law, we have no "martial law", we have only a "terrorist threat"...
          2. 0
            13 November 2022 14: 53
            To be honest, I'm for a military dictatorship. Yes, I'll have to shut my mouth and do what they're told. But political impotents are clearly leading the country nowhere.
        2. +4
          13 November 2022 12: 39
          Something seems to me that they will soon adopt a law on responsibility for voting in elections.

          Yes, if you vote not for a great strategist, then they will put you in jail, or they will deprive you of your pension.
    2. +3
      13 November 2022 10: 30
      This is if they capture the lock on the canal on the left bank. The DRG can blow up the mechanisms
      1. +4
        13 November 2022 10: 40
        dmi-pris hi, I think that they will do everything they can to disrupt the water supply. As life shows, they demolish everything that can interfere with our V.S.
        1. +7
          13 November 2022 10: 58
          I don’t doubt it at all .. It’s just that now it’s too late to wave checkers. It’s pure betrayal.
          1. +3
            13 November 2022 11: 06
            dmi pris, but I don’t understand where we will come, and whether this is the last preventive maneuver, and why our leaders are silent.
            1. +1
              13 November 2022 11: 12
              Now their ears are busy, hung with "partner" noodles. Where are we going?
            2. +3
              13 November 2022 12: 41
              ... why our leaders are silent

              The "leaders" have their tongue stuck in the fifth point. Fear.
            3. Alf
              0
              13 November 2022 21: 26
              Quote: Murmur 55
              Why are our leaders silent?

              Why are they silent? Big Mustache still when they said - It's the military's fault, all questions are for them.
          2. -5
            13 November 2022 12: 41
            dmi.pris (Dmitry): "Complete pure betrayal." In November 1916, Milyukov in the then Duma asked the question: "Is this stupidity or betrayal?" This applied to officials and military commanders. This accusation in the form of a question quickly became popular among the then intelligentsia and opposition to the authorities. It all ended in February 1917 and the loss in WWI. Who are we playing along with, Dmitry?
    3. +7
      13 November 2022 10: 35
      I think there is a mistake in the article.
      Zaporizhzhya NPP is located upstream of the Dnieper, and if the Vuzovsky dam explodes, this plant will not be flooded.
      But it may not have enough water to cool it, but that's another question.
      1. +1
        13 November 2022 10: 37
        Kakhovka dam.
        Why does the computer write not what I write?
        1. Alf
          0
          13 November 2022 21: 27
          Quote: Blacksmith 55
          Why does the computer write not what I write?

          Because the computer is artificial intelligence. laughing
    4. +9
      13 November 2022 11: 09
      What happens is what should happen with the impotence of power. sad
    5. +1
      13 November 2022 11: 34
      it looks like we are "honorably capitulating" ... It is impossible to fight with an enemy that is 10 times or more superior. We were politely asked to vacate test site-U. And apparently we have nothing to say.

      I may be wrong, but I will assume that we have big, big problems today with the production of many types of weapons. Even if it is 99% domestic, then 1% can be so critical that without it "products" cannot be produced ...
      1. +6
        13 November 2022 11: 55
        And I think it's just that the elite betrayed the people. Betrayed and sold.
        1. -5
          13 November 2022 12: 46
          Forty-eighth: "I think it's just that the elite betrayed the people." In November 1916, Milyukov in the then Duma asked the question: "Is this stupidity or betrayal?" This applied to officials and military commanders. This accusation in the form of a question quickly became popular among the then intelligentsia and opposition to the authorities. It all ended in February 1917 and the loss in WWI. Who are we playing along with, 48th?
          1. +2
            13 November 2022 13: 20
            Communist International
        2. +2
          13 November 2022 16: 13
          Also sad thoughts ... It looks like the tops of ALL countries "betrayed and sold" their peoples. The only question is, is the global digital "Heil-Führer!" waiting for us! or "Oligarchies of all countries, unite"!
    6. +2
      13 November 2022 12: 04
      Maybe. And possibly wash away our fortifications on the left bank. The other is upsetting. I remember the words of the Strategist, who said that the decision had been made, all the risks had been calculated. This is where I have my doubts. And I see no way out with my meager mind.
      1. +1
        13 November 2022 12: 51
        Will not wash away. Engineering structures of the first line of defense were created 15 km. from the current water line. It is there where, according to the calculations of specialists, water can come in the event of a dam or dam failure.
        1. +1
          13 November 2022 13: 23
          Well, at least it pleases. Much can be expected from our generals
    7. 0
      13 November 2022 20: 06
      This year I was vacationing in the Crimea! Well, there was no water in the canal.
    8. 0
      13 November 2022 21: 07
      There is water in Crimea, but part of the territory cannot be normally engaged in agriculture. In some cities there were problems with water. Since the 14th year, we have been living without a channel, measures have been taken, a whole range of measures. Water intakes, reservoirs, pipelines, etc. The summer was rainy, and last years, on the contrary, were very dry.
  3. +17
    13 November 2022 10: 27
    What a surprise really? Sarcasm. Ukrainians do not want to accept gestures of goodwill and philanthropy. Sarcasm. It's your own fault and it will only get worse.
  4. +5
    13 November 2022 10: 27
    What's with the air defense in the area of ​​​​the hydroelectric power station? Why aren’t the MLRS Himars detected and destroyed? Why aren’t enemy firing points actively suppressed? They are mostly stationary, so you need to hit them with Geraniums!
    1. +22
      13 November 2022 10: 43
      Thrifty hi, such WHY can be thrown from 10, I'm talking about questions that have set the teeth on edge, about bridges, tunnels, draft stations, Depot, diesel locomotives, and so on, and so on, and so on. Many are already tired of asking when ?! When our people start to fight.
      1. +5
        13 November 2022 11: 32
        Murmur55, when, when, when the cancer on the mountain whistles! am No more speculation....
        1. +3
          13 November 2022 11: 42
          Alien From hi, I remembered about the song, about blue roses like thrush eggs, NEVER.
      2. +9
        13 November 2022 12: 31
        there is a much more terrible question, but what if we have already begun? and this is all that the AFRF is capable of? and what if they don’t destroy tracks and bridges because they can’t get into them and shoot at very large thermal power plants? what if, starting this CBO, the Kremlin played an all-in, and there was no plan B because it simply could not be? There are a million questions! and the most important "Whether it was necessary to start this SVO at all, especially the first?" if they were so sure that the Ukrainians with naked oppa would trample on the Donbass, it was necessary to let them do it and then bypass them from the flanks and cut off from the supply? Maybe not very smart people are sitting at the top and they don’t know how to manage anything at all, how could such a resource-rich country not overtake Portugal in terms of GDP per capita? maybe the only purpose of the CBO was to justify their mistakes? now they have an excuse - everything is bad because the sanctions and in general everything NATO is against us
        1. -1
          13 November 2022 13: 03
          They shoot and hit transformer boxes, which as a target are much smaller than the buildings or other structures of the thermal power plant. Stocks of spare transformers in Ukre had already run out and Zelya asked Biden to send transformers. Gosha Talon: "Was it necessary to start this SVO at all, especially the first?" if you were so sure that the Ukrainians with naked oppoy would trample on the Donbass, should you have let them do it and then bypass them from the flanks and cut them off from the supply? 150 days to reach the Russian border, take Donetsk and Lugansk, and then return all this with much greater efforts than in Mariupol.
          1. +2
            13 November 2022 14: 30
            Yes, no matter where they advanced, they did not accumulate troops, but rather intensively dug in at the borders of the LDNR, at that time they had a total of 170K in the army, including military commissars and clerks, armored vehicles with a gulkin nose, there was nothing for them to attack somewhere, they and in general there was nothing to defend, and the first days showed this, all this flow of javelins and stingers went already in March, and artillery tanks and much later, in my life I don’t believe that they, with this rubbish that they had there, would have become where I’m not going to attack, especially if a large contingent of the AFRF entered the territory of the LDNR (they recognized it and entered it), but if they nevertheless decided on such an adventure, they still wouldn’t have moved anywhere,
            and I didn’t change anything for any bikes, I’m not a Russian, I’m a sympathizer, so to speak,
            but this is my view from the outside, and maybe from Russia, it all looks different, but if I lived in Russia, I would also have these questions
    2. +2
      13 November 2022 12: 17
      Why MLRS Himars are not detected and destroyed?

      —-Because there are no tactics for destroying High Mobility Artillery Rocket Systems - this is the literal translation of HIMARS. There is no reliable way to deal with them.

      Lockheed claims that none of the launchers have been destroyed so far.

      —-If you have ideas on the tactics of destruction, it's time to share them with the appropriate authorities. Victory to the Warriors of Light!!!
  5. -4
    13 November 2022 10: 27
    The most correct decision is to drain the water, only it should have been done even earlier. before the surrender of Kherson, maybe you wouldn’t have to leave.
    1. +11
      13 November 2022 10: 38
      Quote: DronZA
      The most correct decision is to drain the water, only it should have been done even earlier.

      There is also the Dnieper Hydroelectric Power Plant above.... I would suggest that after each blow to the Kakhovskaya Hydroelectric Power Plant, wetting the Bankovaya, or better, the railway crossings to Poland, especially those on which the axles are changed. For example...
      1. +6
        13 November 2022 10: 51
        Quote: Hagen
        I would suggest that after each blow to the Kakhovskaya hydroelectric power station, wetting the Bankovaya, or better, the railway crossings to Poland, especially those on which the axles are changed. For example...

        Yes, how many times it was proposed, but the cart is motionless.
        1. 0
          13 November 2022 11: 25
          Well, the cart is motionless, because we have a swan in the sky, a pike in the water, and the cancer moves back.
    2. +1
      13 November 2022 11: 11
      The best solution is to flush the water

      And what to do with the cooling of the Zaporizhzhya NPP, which will lose cooling?
  6. +8
    13 November 2022 10: 27
    . Yesterday it became known that the evacuation of the population and government from the Kakhovka district, including the city of Novaya Kakhovka, is underway.
    Wow! For better savings, you need to regroup.
  7. +12
    13 November 2022 10: 28
    This is the result of an error in the planning of the operation. And political impotence.
    1. AUL
      +14
      13 November 2022 10: 34
      Only now, everyone pays for these mistakes, except for those who made them. And they are paying with the lives and health of the guys in the trenches.
      1. +17
        13 November 2022 10: 36
        At the top, the question of life and death of our people is not an essential question. am
        1. +6
          13 November 2022 10: 55
          Quote: dmi.pris
          At the top, the question of life and death of our people is not an essential question. am

          Or a bargain. am
      2. +7
        13 November 2022 10: 38
        Quote from AUL
        Only now everyone pays for these mistakes, except for those who made them.

        Has it ever been different in Russia? Tradition-s... Foundations... Mentality...
        1. +3
          13 November 2022 10: 57
          skeptic2 hi, but what is different in other countries? Or maybe in the E.S. they care a lot about the interests of their citizens? Maybe in the USA they can boast of this, in India they still live according to castes, in China, too, the interests of the ruling elites are higher than the interests of the people. As soon as the leaders stopped leading the warriors on the attack and personally taking part in the battles, the life of ordinary warriors ceased to interest the rulers, and the peasants were not valued at all, so were the consumables.
          1. +1
            13 November 2022 12: 57
            in the EU, it is quite taking care of the interests of its citizens, and this is expressed in access to very good medicine, higher pensions and even benefits (meaning the old backbone of the EU, but the young are also pulling up), and in general social security, and if ordinary people there they don’t like something, they take to the streets and most often get their way, there’s a completely different social contract there, if in Russia it was: don’t get involved in politics and don’t interfere with stealing and then you will live poorly but tolerably, then in the EU it was : we will try to make sure that most of you live very well, the rest will live tolerably, and for this do not bother us to receive our "deserved" bonuses (that is, also steal a little, but with profits and not from the population, but from large corporations) . so it seems to be similar, but in a different way, and in the USA it is similar, but in a different way, but in India and China it’s the same, but this is because, like Russia, they were forced to get out of the terrible hole where the previous ones led them rulers
            1. +4
              13 November 2022 13: 30
              Quote: Talon
              in the EU, taking care of the interests of its citizens, and this is expressed in access to very good medicine ...

              I'm embarrassed to ask, where is this very good medicine in the EU? And just like that they care what they can't eat
              1. 0
                13 November 2022 14: 35
                in Germany. France, Italy, Holland, and in many places, and free and no need to give bribes.
                and I wrote that they care just enough to comply with the social contract, and not directly so they can’t eat
                1. +4
                  13 November 2022 15: 02
                  Quote: Talon
                  in Germany. France, Italy, Holland, and a lot of places, and free and ...

                  How much do tests cost in Italy? I'm talking about "free"
                  1. 0
                    13 November 2022 15: 57
                    I have no idea, I have to ask the onoclass who lives there, according to her, it came out as a kind of free kit, but I didn’t specify what it includes
                    1. 0
                      14 November 2022 11: 23
                      Well, a general clinical analysis of urine and blood is also free, with a referral from a therapist. But what kind of exotic type of hormones or tumor markers - either for money or in the direction of a specialized doctor. Record to the profile - for months ahead. It's the same in France, by the way.
          2. AUL
            +1
            13 November 2022 17: 33
            Quote: Murmur 55
            What is different in other countries?

            And what makes it easier for us?
      3. 0
        13 November 2022 13: 14
        Alexander Yuryevich, and the lives and health of 30 thousand of our guys, who, in the event of the destruction of the bridge along the dam, would be left without ammunition (the need for which is measured per day by CARS) and would be doomed to death - how is that? Is it different?
        1. AUL
          0
          13 November 2022 17: 42
          Quote: Andrey Gladkikh
          Alexander Yuryevich, and the lives and health of 30 thousand of our guys .... would be doomed to death - how is that? Is it different?

          Andrew, I don't understand your question. I wrote about the mistake, meaning not the withdrawal of troops to the left bank. I consider it a criminal mistake to prepare and conduct my own.
  8. +17
    13 November 2022 10: 29
    After our people left the right bank, the probability of gouging the dam increased many times over. Knowing the Nazis, it's almost inevitable they won't calm down. This should always be taken into account at the next "gesture of good will", carefully calculate the consequences for two moves ahead. But what am I talking about...
    1. +6
      13 November 2022 11: 07
      Quote from Pharmacist
      After our people left the right bank, the probability of gouging the dam increased many times over. Knowing the Nazis, it's almost inevitable they won't calm down. This should always be taken into account at the next "gesture of good will", carefully calculate the consequences for two moves ahead. But what am I talking about...

      Our leaders have well calculated the consequences, the withdrawal of troops from Kherson does not threaten the Kremlin and Rublyovka.
    2. 0
      13 November 2022 12: 05
      Before you write this, you better watch it
      https://vk.com/video-211990026_456241753
  9. +8
    13 November 2022 10: 36
    at the same time, Ukrainian nationalists do not intend to stop strikes against the dam and the station itself.
    Somehow this statement looks ridiculous. Were they supposed to stop hitting? They, unlike us, are not constrained by any norms of morality or concern for something (someone). They act according to their own rules - everything that is on enemy territory must be destroyed. Which we wouldn't mind doing.
    1. +5
      13 November 2022 10: 47
      rotmistr60 hi, when at one time people offered to BEAT on the sore points of Ukraine and the Ukrainian people they sculpted minuses and called them bad names, we are not fascists they wrote, only now the neo-Nazis are celebrating one victory after another, and we, and we, reminded me of this "They fought for Motherland" departure for the Don.
      1. +11
        13 November 2022 11: 22
        people offered to BEAT on the sore points of Ukraine and the Ukrainian people they sculpted minuses and called bad names
        It used to be, and unfortunately now some on duty are throwing "you want to freeze the Ukrainian people ...", "you want the death penalty (for saboteurs and terrorists), but you are not afraid of an answer ...", etc. So it turns out according to their concept that the Donbass can be leveled with the ground, but "peaceful Kyiv" and others like it cannot be touched.
      2. +5
        13 November 2022 11: 34
        and we, reminded me of this "They fought for the Motherland" retreat for the Don.

        Yes, and the phrase from the film is constantly remembered: ".. undertook to fight, so fight, damned, as it should be ..."
        1. +1
          13 November 2022 13: 23
          I absolutely agree with your quote. The only thing is that the ban on the withdrawal from Kyiv and the surrender of Kyiv cost several hundred thousand prisoners, but Kyiv was still not kept, I also know very well. And I understand that those 30 thousand on the right bank in the conditions of "shell hunger" could not hold their lines, no matter how well they fought.
          1. +1
            13 November 2022 16: 04
            The only thing is that the ban on the withdrawal from Kyiv and the surrender of Kyiv cost several hundred thousand prisoners, but Kyiv was still not kept, I also know very well.

            Yes, I agree. I remember evrything. A kind of "mushroom" was formed, as it was written then - with a large hat and a thin stem (the concentration of our troops near Kyiv).
            It turned out how it happened. We need to fight on.
    2. +5
      13 November 2022 10: 51
      everything on enemy territory must be destroyed

      Isn't this the general rule of war?
      1. 0
        13 November 2022 11: 07
        Quote: novel xnumx
        Isn't this the general rule of war?

        Is there such a set of rules?
        1. +3
          13 November 2022 11: 33
          well, yes, in the academies of the General Staff they usually study, not everything, apparently lol
          1. 0
            13 November 2022 12: 46
            can you reference?
            Well, it’s purely interesting, what’s wrong, to shoot at night so as not to interfere with sleep, or at lunchtime?
        2. -1
          13 November 2022 13: 14
          in general, there is such a set of rules and is described in the Geneva conventions, and the targeted destruction of energy and water infrastructure is expressly prohibited there, but if there are combatants on the territory of such facilities or near them and aiming at them hit the infrastructure, then this somewhat reduces responsibility and then another protocol enters into force, but was a sufficiently selective weapon used so as not to harm non-combatants and objects protected by the convention
          1. +1
            13 November 2022 15: 04
            Quote: Talon
            in general, such a set of rules exists and is described in the Geneva conventions, and there it is just expressly prohibited the purposeful destruction of energy and water infrastructure
            I wonder how Dresden, Hiroshima fall under the code of the Geneva Convention
            p.s. I skimmed through but couldn't find it.
            1. 0
              13 November 2022 16: 02
              the Geneva Convention of the 49th year, but it seems to me that it was there at 28, look through Wikipedia, this is certainly not the most reliable source, but there each statement has a link to the source, and so you can quickly find it without rereading all the numerous pieces of paper
  10. -9
    13 November 2022 10: 40
    Today in the cart came out a video from the "Wagners". "The sledgehammer of retribution" is called. Published in channels: Greyzon, Rosich, Vladlen Tatarsky and others!!!
    I think this is a great video for the nomination of Prigozhin for the presidential elections!!!
    He even came up with a slogan: “I will “knock out” from the country of traitors” !!!
    Check it out for sure!!!
    Prigozhin for president!!!!!!!
    1. 0
      13 November 2022 10: 58
      Quote: Andrew the Magnificent
      Today in the cart came out a video from the "Wagners". "The sledgehammer of retribution" is called. Published in channels: Greyzon, Rosich, Vladlen Tatarsky and others!!!
      I think this is a great video for the nomination of Prigozhin for the presidential elections!!!
      He even came up with a slogan: “I will “knock out” from the country of traitors” !!!
      Check it out for sure!!!
      Prigozhin for president!!!!!!!

      ok, so what's next?
      1. 0
        13 November 2022 11: 17
        poguello hi, sorry to intervene, but if you leave everything as it is? Your question is also relevant, and then what?
        1. -5
          13 November 2022 11: 36
          Quote: Murmur 55
          poguello hi, sorry to intervene, but if you leave everything as it is? Your question is also relevant, and then what?

          voot, then we don’t know, but “for the presidency”, and then with some degree of probability there will be a NATO entry under the Ukrainian flag and a big fight, and your magically dissatisfied society will change the president instead of a fight, that’s how they screwed up the victory in WWI
  11. 0
    13 November 2022 10: 49
    Ukrovermah, shelling and damaging the dam, now fully justifies and nullifies the alleged political shame when the troops leave Kherson. Here is a good example.
  12. +6
    13 November 2022 10: 49
    In the event of the destruction of the Kakhovka dam, the North Crimean Canal will cease to function. And this is for a long time. This is exactly what the ukrofascists and the Western curators who stand above them are trying to achieve, if someone did not understand ...
  13. +1
    13 November 2022 11: 03
    Since it was built in the shortest possible time, I think that modern technology will restore it quickly enough. Fast enough - I mean, in terms of the universe. We're not talking about it for a few months, of course. It will take a year or more, it should be evaluated by experts
    Dneproges was built in 5 years, but it was reported that it would take TWO years to replace the PT for a village of 10 houses, so I would not be so categorical about the fast time with modern technologies
  14. +9
    13 November 2022 11: 07
    it looks like they are preparing the ground for the surrender of Novaya Kakhovka, and there the line will come up to the Zapopozhskaya nuclear power plant
    1. +5
      13 November 2022 11: 29
      removed from the tongue. I just wanted to write the same. And it also applies to Energodar, and to ZNPP
    2. 0
      13 November 2022 13: 29
      it’s very similar, I don’t even believe that the Ukrainians are shooting at this hydroelectric power station, and they were shooting at the withdrawing troops, but now they don’t need it at all, they can’t get anything from it, every kilowatt will be useful to them, yes, their partners are unlikely to understand why they need to redirect email. energy to Ukraine, as far as the bridge and power lines towards Ukraine were initially reported, the Russians themselves blew up, but what flies there now, and whether it flies somehow is not clear, the Ukrainians shot at the bridge on the dam before, which has changed. got the opportunity to shoot from cannon artillery so it’s even less useless than chimeras, shoot to scare? so so-so horror story, in general it is completely incomprehensible
  15. +8
    13 November 2022 11: 08
    but in the event of a dam rupture, which is what Kyiv is seeking, the entire area lying downstream of the Dnieper, including the Zaporozhye nuclear power plant, as well as settlements in a 15-kilometer zone from the river, will fall into the flood zone.

    You will either correct the article, or you will be listed as a victim of the Unified State Examination, since the Zaporizhzhya NPP is located 80 km upstream from the Kakhovka Hydroelectric Power Plant and in the event of a dam blowing, it will fall not into the flood zone, but into the drainage zone and lose the ability to cool the reactors.
    1. 0
      14 November 2022 09: 50
      Well, she's not completely cold. Own cooling pond, recharge wells. In the reactor cooldown mode, this can drag on almost indefinitely, because the water flow is small.
  16. +6
    13 November 2022 11: 11
    Well, how can you comment on this, it hurts and it's a shame that we have come to this.
    Rather, the country was "rolled".
    And this is not because Russia is weak, but because of the incompetence, weakness and indecision of the authorities.
    And all sorts of behind-the-scenes wiggles.
    Russia is a great country and could crush Nazi Ukraine if they acted decisively from the very beginning and did not make so many mistakes.
    This is how we reap the rewards. Even in the summer, it was necessary to move the front line away from Kherson and take Nikolaev, which was half empty.
    But for unknown reasons, they stopped.
    You can't give in to some kind of Ukraine... you can't. This is unacceptable for Russia.
    Recently, Kartapolov hinted at something about December, maybe something will change. It remains only to believe.
    1. 0
      13 November 2022 14: 15
      I just think that they are overly decisive, and from the very beginning they got too resolutely involved in an outright adventure, without having thought it through even once, they came up with some kind of Nazis and believed in them themselves, and decided that all they had to do was pick those very Nazis and that’s all will go like clockwork, and the people will take the side of the world and finally drive out their government, imposed from behind the hillock, and the planners didn’t even think that maybe the Ukrainians themselves elected this government, maybe the Ukrainians were pushed to this from behind the hill, but it’s important what the Ukrainians themselves think, and whether they will persecute this government of yours or will they still follow its orders and resist with all their might, so far in all the Russian media they call it all, either Nazis, or nationalists, or militants, or mercenaries, tochert knows who else, and the Armed Forces of Ukraine is an army, but weak and small at the time the NMD began, but an army, with leadership, hierarchy, planning, and not at all a bunch of rabble that can be torn to shreds twice, and neither the unity of the Ukrainians did not deploy weapons despite Putin’s direct call, and that’s all I wrote here, the courts were not considered at all by the leadership of the Russian Federation, otherwise they would not have started the NWO with 150 thousand AFRF and 50 LDNR, so it’s not decisive here it seems to me that it’s in the wrong planning, wrong goal-setting, in general, incompetence, the competent would have started the whole thing wrong and not then, and most likely they didn’t start at all, because so far neither Putin and the Moscow Region have been able to unambiguously bring why was all this necessary and what are the specific goals, and the goal cannot be achieved when it is not clear
  17. 0
    13 November 2022 11: 15
    It was recently reported that as a result of the HIMARS MLRS strike, one of the airlocks was damaged.

    There is only one gateway. And it had long been covered up when the bridge over the gateway damaged by himars was being restored.
  18. +3
    13 November 2022 11: 19
    How funny it is now from our present to watch Strelkov’s video as far back as July 22, where he practically predicted everything that happened later !!!)))) Here, many asked where the vacated units of the Armed Forces of Ukraine could now be used, a partial answer was given there and it is very interesting !
    1. +1
      13 November 2022 12: 44
      The people who put a minus, can you explain?))))))) Maybe Strelkov blew it or gave false predictions?))) Why are you such a primitive propagandist?
      1. +2
        13 November 2022 13: 13
        Quote: azkolt
        The people who put a minus, can you explain?))))))) Maybe Strelkov blew it or gave false predictions?))) Why are you such a primitive propagandist?

        These are the Kremlinbots that stuck their tongues in one place after all the agreements and now they are meanly shitting like their idol.
        1. -1
          13 November 2022 16: 52
          I'm just sometimes amazed at the local contingent, most of them changed their shoes literally in the air! belay They don't even understand simple irony sometimes. Everything is here, like children, they write for shoulder straps. They've seen enough of the TV, and there is a solid ah, lu-lu, ah lu-li, the wolves took the heifer away!
  19. +4
    13 November 2022 11: 23
    the entire area lying downstream of the Dnieper, including the Zaporozhye NPP, will fall into the flood zone

    Authors should be required to look at the map, under the signature.
  20. +3
    13 November 2022 11: 36
    APU fired Hymers on the highway, which is above the dam.
    And damaged the highway so that tanks and heavy equipment would not pass
    (as well as Antonovsky bridge).
    During the retreat, the Russian army blew up the highway with dynamite.
    The dam itself was not damaged.
  21. +1
    13 November 2022 11: 37
    here it is a quick result of the surrender of positions on the right bank of the Dnieper
  22. +2
    13 November 2022 11: 40
    The guarantor was fooled into the ears that after the G20 they would agree on the type and the grain would go .... Here he sits, suffers and waits. ...
    But the hell is there! Vova will throw you, once again. He has already moved into the terpila, and soon they will send their own to the lowered ones. So the last chance for rehabilitation remained
  23. +4
    13 November 2022 11: 50
    I haven't watched any Russian military news for at least three months because Russia is a disgrace to us foreign supporters.

    When it was Krasny Lyman, we said that it was pointless for Russia. In the case of Ijum, we said that it was a targeted strategic reduction, well, now it's Kherson - presumably it was a trap.

    What's next? Crimea? Mariupol?

    Russians, don't let your supporters down too much. And don't embarrass them any more.
    1. 0
      14 November 2022 09: 53
      You have a nickname with a trick, the computer virus of the same name was painfully malicious laughing
  24. 0
    13 November 2022 12: 20
    And if the Dnieper hydroelectric power station explodes, will Kyiv be washed away?
    1. +1
      13 November 2022 13: 11
      How???!!! It is downstream from Kyiv.
  25. 0
    13 November 2022 13: 09
    hysterical shooting yourself in the foot?
  26. +1
    13 November 2022 13: 10
    And what, was another result of our regrouping from the right bank of the Dnieper supposed to save the lives of military personnel and speed up the liberation of Donbass?

    Now the Ukrainians are going to gouge the dam and we will take a sip of some water on the left LOW bank ...
  27. +1
    13 November 2022 13: 46
    To date, the Kakhovskaya hydroelectric power station continues to function, but in the event of a dam rupture, which is what Kyiv is seeking, the entire area lying downstream of the Dnieper, including the Zaporizhzhya nuclear power plant, will fall into the flood zone,

    What is it like!? Well, at least look at the cards sometimes when you write request
  28. Two
    +1
    13 November 2022 13: 52
    It is clear that you have problems with geography, they will break the dam, wash away Kherson where the Ukrainians are sitting, look at the map. Everything depends on the level of the wave and everything is Kherson downstream.
  29. AMG
    +1
    13 November 2022 16: 07
    And isn't the Zaporizhzhya AS upstream?
  30. 0
    14 November 2022 11: 47
    We will expect the next abandonment "due to the impossibility" of supply. crying