Atomic "Losharik" helps Russia to find the Arctic

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Russia decided to seriously declare its territorial claims on the Arctic continental shelf. This is all the more gratifying, because lately we have often witnessed reverse processes when a foreign state tries to state its claims to Russian territory or the territorial waters of our country.

One of the first practical applications to announce about quite serious areas of the Russian continental shelf was an expedition led by famous traveler and scientist Arthur Chilingarov (now a senator from the Tula region), held in the summer of 2007. Then Artur Chilingarov and other polar researchers, using the Mir deep-sea submersibles, monitored the bottom of the Arctic Ocean, and came to the conclusion that the Lomonosov and Mendeleev submarine ridges are part of the Russian Arctic shelf, and therefore, according to international rules, should be legally assigned to the Russian Federation.

For reference.

The Lomonosov Ridge extends 1800 kilometers from the Novosibirsk Islands almost to the Canadian island of Elksmeer. Discovered by Soviet Arctic explorers in the 1948 year.

The Mendeleev Range is located east of the MV Lomonosov Ridge. Discovered by a Soviet expedition in 1949. It has a part, which on American Arctic maps is designated as Alpha elevation.

About 12 years ago, information appeared that both the Lomonosov Ridge and the Mendeleev Ridge are extensions of the continental part of Russia. In the 2002 year, Russia submitted an application to the UN with a view to the fact that the territorial affiliation of the two ridges was recognized by experts at the international level. However, the UN working group, which was created to make a decision on the Russian application, decided not to say its “yes” to Moscow. Russia was recommended to provide more reasoned evidence that the shelf is really Russian, which means that it has the right to dispose of its enormous resources. UN experts recommended the Russian delegation to provide samples of rocks that will be obtained from two ridges. It is precisely in terms of geological parameters that one could give an exact answer whether the submarine ridges of the Arctic Ocean will receive Russian status or not.

For a long ten years, preparatory work has been going on with the help of well-thought-out effective actions to obtain the required samples. And now, as part of the Arktika-2012 expedition, a whole range of drilling was carried out, during which the specialists received about five hundred kilograms of rock from the very underwater mountain ranges discussed above. As they say, we need an evidence base - kindly get it.

The work was carried out in the form of close contact between the Russian Ministry of Defense and civilian specialists. In particular, drilling on the Arctic shelf was carried out from the ships "Dikson" and "Captain Dranitsyn" (icebreakers). Coordination assistance in the performance of both drilling operations and work on determining the exact borders of the continental shelf was provided by military experts who were on the unique nuclear submarine АС-12 of the 10830 (10831) project “Wicket”, which is also named as one of the Soviet cartoons - "Losharik." The project itself was developed as early as 80 by specialists from the Malakhit design bureau. Today "Losharik" is an amazing submarine, which is often called the nuclear underwater station. The concept itself was born from the fact that the station is represented by a set of spherical compartments made of such material as titanium, capable of withstanding tremendous pressure at depth.

Why did you need to use a military submarine to control the drilling process? The fact is that the drilling itself is not a momentary process. If only the Mir submersibles had entered the business, then every 72 hours they would have to be lifted to the surface and the batteries charged for a long time. This would obviously have delayed the work, and the dragging on today is clearly not in the interests of Russia, since other countries are also showing interest in the Arctic riches. For example, Canada quite unexpectedly declared that the same Mendeleev and Lomonosov ranges do not belong to Moscow, but to Ottawa ... Moreover, even those states that do not even have access to the Arctic Ocean are ready to join the Arctic race: Brazil and several others. Obviously, in this regard, Russia had to hurry, but to do everything wisely.
So we decided to attract military resources with increased autonomy.

The atomic deep-water station is free from the “Worlds” flaws, and has the ability to be at a depth of over 1000 meters up to several months, feeding on the energy of the reactor. The station itself is equipped with everything necessary for long-term work of specialists on board: there are compartments for the crew’s rest, a laboratory, a galley, and an air generation system. Those who have worked at least once at an underwater station, say that it is equipped as well as a real spacecraft making a long journey. The crew of the nuclear submarine autonomous station is 25 military officers in officer ranks.

During one of the deep-sea dives, the underwater station received minor damage, and in order to level the risk, it was decided to overtake it for maintenance at the Sevmash plant. After the work, "Losharik" will again be ready to return to the system.
Members of the research mission say that in the near future, samples of geological rocks will be sent to the United Nations for research. If the UN specialists are satisfied with the quantity and quality of the delivered samples, then Russia will finally get the right to redeem the Arctic shelf.

However, we can expect unexpected results from our “partners”. It would be no wonder if half a ton of rock from the depths of the Arctic Ocean will seem to be insufficient evidence at the UN. In this case, you will have to prove your right to the Arctic with your fist, otherwise you can keep us behind the "horny men" for a long time until you hear the words about the untimely forgotten Kuzka Mother ... No, this is not even a threat - a simple statement of fact ...
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  1. +13
    30 October 2012 08: 59
    Well, finally got down to business.
    1. ughhh
      +7
      30 October 2012 10: 41
      Canada? And who are they?
      1. +4
        30 October 2012 16: 58
        These are those who live even farther from us than the Chukchi.
      2. Tirpitz
        +12
        30 October 2012 17: 42
        Quote: ughhh
        Canada? And who are they?

        All right. +.
        Stalin: "Who are the Vatican, how many divisions do they have?" The same can be said about Canada.
        1. Denzel13
          +3
          30 October 2012 19: 04
          Canada for 2008:
          - population: 33 091 228
          - number of military personnel: 62 000
      3. +3
        30 October 2012 19: 42
        Quote: ughhh

        Canada? And who are they?

        Well, Canada has at least territories in the northern latitudes, but Brazil and China from where?
        1. +1
          30 October 2012 21: 15
          Quote:
          Well, Canada has at least territories in the northern latitudes, but Brazil and China from where?

          For the money. wassat
    2. Lucky
      +2
      30 October 2012 11: 42
      It remains to prove competently!
      1. +8
        30 October 2012 15: 03
        It's time to bring your fist and aim! So that everyone can see him! And in this fist something very heavy and very clumsy must be clamped! Only then will Russia be reckoned with, as with the Soviet Union!
    3. AIvanA
      +2
      31 October 2012 15: 01
      but in fact, what is the matter of proving to the deaf UN (in relation to Russia), the matter is in principle not grateful, almost all decisions that are resolved by this very UN quickly and without delay are those that are aimed at harm or against Russia.
      1. KCC
        KCC
        0
        3 November 2012 11: 55
        The latest measurement, UN report on endangered cities.
  2. +18
    30 October 2012 09: 09
    If the two most faithful allies of Russia, Army and Navy If there are problems with equipment, weapons, etc., then we will not see the Arctic. They’ll take it away!
    1. Sergh
      +13
      30 October 2012 09: 41
      Quote: omsbon
      weapons, etc., then we can’t see the Arctic

      Here the race for the Arctic began a long time ago, we have the right to first prove "in an amicable way" that this is our "cow" and we will milk it, and if they do not understand it in words, then let them not be offended, because you can competently answer, they say : "we warned you ...". Moreover, it can be seen with the naked eye, it is not for nothing that we are in a hurry and we are straining our technique, which means that we will tear our teeth for this arctic ridge.
      And by the way, I would have looked at the faces of the UNs when ours poured a half ton of cobblestones with seaweed onto them at the office table!
      1. Jin
        +2
        30 October 2012 12: 20
        To the author + for the article! I’m just wondering, with what kind of fist will we prove? Do we block the gas for the European Union or start fighting? Something is unlikely !!! What we prove, I have no doubt, but here's how ??? Guys, what are your thoughts on ???
        1. +5
          30 October 2012 13: 28
          Quote: Jin
          What we prove, I have no doubt, but here's how ???

          Yeah, Ukraine has already proved its rights to the Black Sea shelf. If it were under the USSR, then Europe would have silently wiped off ... But there are rights, but no shelf.
          It smells like a serious disassembly, and you need to prepare VERY seriously.
        2. Bars90
          +3
          30 October 2012 21: 25
          Why you definitely need to fight or block the gas ... You just need to make enemies friends, and neutral ones closer. Political game ... Subtle game ... Pull time and build up power. (any: military, economic ...)
          1. +3
            30 October 2012 22: 16
            In order to conduct political games, you need something to hear your opponents and loyal friends, and if you are weak in the political, economic or military spectrum, then no one will listen or hear you, even reckon with your opinion. Poetmow also has to first assert himself, and only then lead subtle, complex political games. Something like that. wink
      2. 0
        31 October 2012 22: 46
        Yeah .... Only two options.
        1. The Russian Federation is tense and will show everyone that it is ready for a REAL war, up to the use of WMD. The state that will control this area will receive a lot of trump cards for the future. I hope the matter does not come to real battles, but if it does ... The battle will not only be tough, it will be extremely fierce and absolutely unprincipled. And one must be prepared for this. Do not expect that this question can be solved by a pair of paratrooper mouths with Kalash at the ready. If such a price is not acceptable, then it is better to refuse immediately and not to swoon the crazy amounts, and not to risk many thousands of people.
        2. Or, at the next UN meeting, an appropriate document will be adopted, from which it will immediately become clear to all "democratized" humanity that this territory historically belongs to the United States. Notes of Columbus and Vinitu will be urgently found, where they describe in detail the installation of the Stars and Stripes in the Arctic to the anthem and fireworks. The flag itself will also be found, although it will be written in small letters somewhere below "Made in China", but these are little things unworthy of attention.
        The past decade has shown that the adoption of absolutely absurd laws in favor of one state is becoming the norm. Trying to compete in this field and prove something with an official paper way is a waste of time. Of course, diplomats will do their job, but without a powerful base in that area there is nothing to rely on.
  3. akbarr
    +8
    30 October 2012 09: 11
    It will not be surprising if half a ton of rock extracted from the depths of the Arctic Ocean seems to be insufficient evidence in the UN "

    The world will not change. And yesterday and today, if you want to take (even your own), you need to use force. The more rigid the "answer", the easier and more thoroughly the Arctic will lie in the minds of common people as a Russian territory.
  4. borisst64
    +2
    30 October 2012 09: 43
    The hull of the submarine is polyspherical, that is, it is assembled from spherical compartments (the “bathyscaphe” principle is implemented) made of titanium.
    It would be interesting to see.
    1. Juga
      0
      2 November 2012 00: 01
      I was interested in this issue a couple of years ago, the excavations of Tyrnet gave almost nothing - the project number and meager descriptions with reference to "inarticulate" sources, everything is secret, even the photo "presumably Losharik" disappeared from the site ...
      And here you have an open statement about its use, confirming that the presence of this station is not a myth, curious - why would it?
  5. Holms
    +5
    30 October 2012 09: 48
    Our Arctic and no compromises should be.
    1. +8
      30 October 2012 10: 11
      Whose is yours? The flag is your German ... what
      1. Jin
        +2
        30 October 2012 12: 21
        Quote: CRONOS
        Whose is yours? The flag is your German ..


        Noticed !!! Plus! laughing good
      2. +1
        31 October 2012 02: 33
        Quote: CRONOS
        Whose is yours? The flag is your German ... what

        That don’t worry buddy, this is Stirlitz.
        1. +1
          31 October 2012 05: 40
          These "Stirlitz" for the nineties and zero years so many ran over the hill that now they are there to drive each other. hi laughing
  6. Volkhov
    +4
    30 October 2012 10: 02
    Judging by the damage to the boat, there was already bombing, the titanium cod did not miss and the projectors did not hit.
    "Now" Losharik "is being prepared for maintenance in the 42nd workshop of the" Sevmash "plant. Since" Losharik "is equipped with a nuclear reactor, after each going to sea, the boat has to be lifted to the dock and minor faults removed.

    - During the repair it is planned to restore the technical readiness of the boat, check the components and mechanisms, in particular shafts and propellers. Although the depth for this boat was not very large, you will have to level the hull. During one of the dives, the external lighting system failed - we replace it too, ”a source in the military-industrial complex explained.

    As the interlocutor of Izvestia said, the hull of Losharik is made of high-strength titanium, so it is much more difficult to remove dents on the hull than in a conventional steel boat. The carrier of the Losharik is the converted Project 667 Kalmar strategic submarine, from which the ballistic missile silos have been dismantled - the bathyscaphe is attached under its bottom. "

    http://warfiles.ru/show-16445-voennyy-atomnyy-batiskaf-losharik-ispytali-v-arkti
    ke.html

    It seems that the point is again in "living space", and not in the right to pitfalls.
    1. +3
      30 October 2012 12: 04
      I think that all spherical compartments are in the shell of a thin outer casing.
      He apparently crumpled. By this principle all submarines are made. Only instead of spherical compartments are cylindrical hulls.
      1. 0
        30 October 2012 13: 31
        Not all. This is you talking about double hull boats that were made in the USSR. The Americans made single hull boats.
        1. +1
          30 October 2012 14: 26
          Well, their hard hull was simply not all covered with light. But there was a boat made in our school right there. So, most likely the principle of construction is the same.
          Well, the shape of the sphere is chosen as rigid compartments, since they hold the pressure even better than the cylinders with the maximum internal volume and minimum mass. Naturally, this is all, for streamlining, to be covered by a lightweight body, although it may not be on the entire surface.
          Well, in general, it is unlikely that they squeezed hard compartments. They are painfully durable.
          1. +1
            30 October 2012 17: 29
            Quote: bootlegger
            sphere shape selected as hard compartments

            The sphere has the best quality at the same wall thickness than the cylinder, which is called neither strength nor rigidity. This is called "resilience". You are right, if the sphere got a dent at a sufficiently large depth, then most likely the hull fell apart into separate pieces.
            1. 0
              30 October 2012 19: 32
              I agree. In the case of external pressure, yes. For some reason, I thought about the internal.
              Koda received his specialty, mainly dealing with inflated spheres and cylinders. It was a long time ago, but the habit remained.
              True, if I wrote about sustainability, only those who studied sapromat would understand.
      2. Volkhov
        +1
        30 October 2012 15: 12
        Of course, first of all, the light hull was deformed, but at the same time the lighting system and manipulators were destroyed for replacement "when adjusting drilling" ...
        He climbed into another's mink, got torpedoes, is being treated ... This is a problem of illegal migrants ...
        It's just that the internal compartments of the bathyscaphe are much stronger than those of the submarine, so it is not a Kursk. There were diesel icebreakers with drilling rigs nearby, but a deep-sea drill would not fit on the icebreaker - there is nowhere to put the pipes, so these migrants dug in 60 - 70 years ago ...

        http://warfiles.ru/3073-liviya-kak-versal.html

        It is very untimely for us to dig them out without parity for the sake of the interests of others.
  7. Cold
    +1
    30 October 2012 10: 14
    While on earth, earthly resources are divided between states. And Russia is a strong nuclear power, Losharik, a vivid example of this "has the ability to be at a depth of over 1000 meters for up to several months, powered by the energy of the reactor." Our Arctic has always been and will be, I have no doubt about it. We will break the ridge for everyone who climbs. drinks
    1. -2
      30 October 2012 10: 17
      Are you trying to convince yourself with your post, or our cattle-selling government, which is bending for everyone and for a certain bribe, is ready to sell us with giblets, not to mention the disputed territories? request
      1. KCC
        KCC
        0
        3 November 2012 12: 03
        Man, you have an overabundance of poison, send it to doctors and benefit people.
  8. +4
    30 October 2012 10: 26
    Our scientists have proved that the United States is nothing more than a continuation of our continental shelf! Hooray!
  9. +1
    30 October 2012 10: 29
    The Arctic cannot be given to anyone. You cannot share the same with anyone.
    1. R'RёS,R ° F "RёR№
      0
      30 October 2012 18: 31
      As noted on the maps-borders of the polar possessions of the USSR. So OUR !!! And X .. they are big beggars!
  10. +2
    30 October 2012 10: 51
    And somewhere nearby, at the bottom, there should be artifacts of ancient (our preglacial settlements) civilizations, there are a lot of reasons to stake a clearing. I support the initiative !!!!!
    1. 0
      30 October 2012 13: 42
      Quote: Strezhevchanin
      at the bottom, ancient artifacts should be lying

      Duc already wink .
  11. +2
    30 October 2012 10: 55
    Indeed, the boat is top-secret ... I haven't found a single photo of "Losharik" ... Maybe someone has it, it would be interesting to see what kind of "beast" it is ...
    1. 0
      31 October 2012 13: 41
      Deep-water nuclear power plant project 10830 "Kalitka"

      Propulsion system - 1 nuclear reactor with a steam generating unit E-17 and TZA with a capacity of not more than 10000 hp Design Bureau of Mechanical Engineering. I. Afrikantova (Nizhny Novgorod).

      The nuclear power plant is likely to be located in one of the spherical blocks of a robust casing, and thus biological protection of the reactor is carried out, including using a layer of overboard water.

      Mechanics - propulsion - 1 main propeller in an annular nozzle, thrusters with electric motors.

      TTX boats:
      Crew - 25 officers

      Length - 69 m
      Width - 7 m
      Draft - about 5 m
      Normal displacement - 1390 t
      Full displacement - 2000 t

      Ultimate immersion depth - up to 6000 m (not confirmed)
      Underwater Speed ​​- 30 knots

      Armament - missing

      Equipment - ordinary and special equipment to ensure the submarine is swimming and performing tasks.
  12. SAVA555.IVANOV
    0
    30 October 2012 11: 14
    And it was impossible to attract this boat to save the Kursk! ????
    1. Volkhov
      +4
      30 October 2012 11: 17
      She was just being built then.
  13. Lucky
    +1
    30 October 2012 11: 44
    The Arctic has touched this at a future date, so we won’t give it back, if we give up the Arctic, we should start arguing over the Kuril Islands and so on.
    1. Jin
      -2
      30 October 2012 12: 25
      Lucky,

      We will not give it back !!! Hari, or some will crack! sad
    2. 0
      30 October 2012 13: 18
      And the Japs wait, you bastards ...
  14. gorkoxnumx
    +7
    30 October 2012 12: 17
    We need a powerful balanced fleet, both an aircraft carrier and an underwater one, then all claims on the shelves and disputed territories will immediately disappear to Russia, it’s not even necessary to put into battle this whole armada of the fact of the existence of such a force in Russia that will inspire potential enemies with horror, and friends with respect and tranquility. So the world is arranged, many figures are accustomed to reckon only with force.
    1. 0
      31 October 2012 02: 43
      Quote: gorko83
      We need a powerful balanced fleet, both an aircraft carrier and an underwater one, then all claims on the shelves will disappear immediately to Russia

      don’t tear your heart, dear.
  15. +2
    30 October 2012 12: 18
    In general, "Losharik" can dive to a depth of 6000 meters, inaccessible to other submarines.
    1. 0
      30 October 2012 19: 50
      Where does infa come from? Not every robot can sink to such a depth, and then a submarine ... stop
  16. +1
    30 October 2012 13: 17
    I am glad that not everything is "for sale" in our country.
    And you need to get ready to defend your territory!
    http://www.arctic-info.ru/News/Page/provodatsa-voennie-ycenia-po-zasite-intereso
    v-rossii-v-arktike-
  17. Nechai
    +6
    30 October 2012 15: 49
    Quote: Rus_87
    Indeed, the boat is top-secret ... I have not found a single photo of Losharik.


    To insert into one comment ALL photos of the "Gates" of the Project 10830 Deep-water Nuclear Power Plant, "Losharik" in Mira is impossible. Here are the photo addresses:
    http://militaryrussia.ru/i/284/358/d0mmJ.jpg
    http://barentsobserver.com/sites/barentsobserver.com/files/styles/grid_8/public/
    main / articles / losharik.jpg
    http://forum.keypublishing.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=189157&d=1286915317
    http://img-fotki.yandex.ru/get/5603/wait4me90.57/0_53c06_306f00b5_XL.jpg

  18. +1
    30 October 2012 16: 09
    In all international organizations, when presenting evidence on the shelf, you must:
    1) Show Kuzkin mother.
    2) Show other documents.
    Then "enlightenment in the mind" and the acceptance of evidence in favor of Russia will proceed at an accelerated pace.
  19. +1
    30 October 2012 16: 28
    Quote: Volkhov
    She was just being built then.

    Yeah ... And "Lenok" (Project 940) already managed to get away ...
  20. Nechai
    0
    30 October 2012 16: 52
    Quote: AKuzenka
    In general, "Losharik" can dive to a depth of 6000 meters, inaccessible to other submarines.

    Amers, in the 4500s, loudly announced the main direction of construction of their new nuclear submarines, with a working depth of 5500-XNUMXm. And the body was going to be created NOT FROM metal. BUT it didn't work out somehow. The noise subsided. And for serially built submarines, the working depth of diving was sharply reduced. The promulgation of the successes, although not without problematic ones - just workers, of the Russian "Losharik", is most likely perceived in the United States as a slap in the face. Well, they cannot allow anyone other than them to have serious breakthrough technical successes. It is perceived as a blow to the very "American way of life." And even more so in Russia. Which they have won a long time ago.
  21. +4
    30 October 2012 17: 23
    What will be worth a thousand words, when the strength of the hand will be important.
    V. Tsoi.
  22. +2
    30 October 2012 17: 57
    And the battle continues again,
    And the heart is anxious in the chest,
    And Lenin is so young
    And young October is ahead.

    Oops! Suddenly! And then look ka, comrades, nowhere without an army and navy ...
  23. Stasi.
    +3
    30 October 2012 18: 09
    Whatever evidence we present, the West will not accept them. Because then it will be necessary to give the land rich in resources into the possession of Russia, and this is unacceptable. So we have to use force. The question is not how strong we are, the question is whether our government can not bend to the West.
  24. +4
    30 October 2012 22: 02
    One designer at Froom recently said something like this:
    Thy mother, why did we manage to do such a thing in the USSR that we’ve been using it for 20 years, and that’s enough.
    He was referring to the design groundwork, which one journalist correctly called "the gloomy genius of the Russian military-industrial complex."
    Damn, I'm really proud of our brains, our people and our "dark genius"! And let all the white and clean liberals in aprons read more often such articles about "Losharikov", "Poplar" and the hell knows what else, and understand that in addition to their liberal theories and subcultures, there is he - a gloomy genius, which is better not to forget. So that later it would not be excruciatingly bitter and insulting.
    1. Volkhov
      -4
      30 October 2012 22: 37
      "Losharik" - an enlarged "Aluminaut" (American military bathyscaphe of the 60s), which submerged up to 6 km, participated in the search for lost waters. bombs in Spain and many other things ... But it was cheaper, made of aluminum and without a reactor. But "Losharik" was created from the 80s, and rolled out in a couple of years, although it fulfilled its duty, it is unlikely to be repaired in the remaining months, if they need to "check the shafts", then everything is shaken up there and repairs for a long time.
      Americans avoid such "research", realizing the side effects, but since the age of 17 they have us for dangerous things, well, they push us forward, and the genius, as if in the gloom, does not see what is around like a horse in blinders.
      We have already created a global dollar with our victims in World War 2, now we are extracting knowledge for them, putting the country under attack.
  25. pesec
    0
    30 October 2012 22: 14
    Be realistic! Here is the politics of Norway. The head of the Norwegian Foreign Ministry noted that the seven-year efforts of the government in the Northern regions yielded results: extensive research programs were launched, the foundations were laid for increasing economic growth and job creation in Northern Norway, emergency preparedness was improved, the main bases of the Armed Forces were moved to the north of the country forces, cooperation with Russia has become deeper, a historic agreement on the line of delineation of sea spaces has been signed.
    “I am proud that the government provides for record investments in the Northern regions in the budget for next year. However, the most important thing is to create conditions for the manifestation of initiative and the introduction of innovations. Knowledge, value creation, public safety and emergency preparedness should be the cornerstone of our strategy in the Northern Regions, ”said Eide. According to him, the government will continue to invest in research and innovation in the field of politics in the Northern regions. “This is the basis for the sustainable extraction of natural resources, the creation and preservation of jobs - not only in the north, but throughout the country,” the minister emphasized. Ay, the authorities of Russia! Do not oversleep!
  26. +1
    30 October 2012 23: 29
    God help you. Russia is finally starting to gradually work with its elbows. Many of your neighbors who are with interest, while others may look at you with fear. The revival of Russia will begin, you see, in addition to the enemies, Russia will have many allies, tired of the dictates of the fascist Western regimes.
  27. +1
    31 October 2012 00: 44
    Yes, we need to quickly stake out these areas in the Arctic Ocean, well, keep the cam as an argument, if anyone does not agree. soldier
  28. Nechai
    +1
    31 October 2012 01: 11
    Quote: Volkhov
    "Losharik" - enlarged "Aluminaut" (American military bathyscaphe of the 60s)

    Yes, Vasily! (Or is it not Vasily?) Well, you give a pancake ... Comparing, or rather, LEVELING, to hell with a finger.
    Friends, the fact that the media is using the name "losharik" - Project 10830 Deep-water Nuclear Power Plant "Kalitka", is understandable for fun. But that very open "Gate" is also shaded into the depths of the World Ocean. Having stuffed a "bump" on it, you can safely do the "Gate".
    1. Volkhov
      +1
      31 October 2012 08: 25
      It's not about how to dive, soon the Flood and the majority will succeed, the fact is that without using our brains we got into an atomic war, so far of low intensity and whether we need escalation. In addition to some mechanism, serviceable or broken, there are the interests of the people - to live, die, to what extent, why.
      There is a Zionist point of view - to use the Russians in full in the end, leading them with jingoistic patriotism as a donkey carrot, in the new world they do not need us.
      There is another point of view - to preserve the Russian population as much as possible, with production, libraries, so that there is a chance of parity with the Reich and the Zionists after the disaster - this requires an understanding of what is happening, and not the cliches of the propaganda of the invaders.

      http://atnews.org/news/nlo_atakovalo_vulkan_v_meksike/2012-10-30-5289

      This is the visualization of the reverse current (absorption of electrons by the lower shells before the Ripple), and therefore, in the spring the Arctic’s bottom will rise, the coast will be demolished by an icy swell, and we should not strive for war, but evacuate according to a certain technology, and you’re still trying to Zionists slippers to bring.
      1. 0
        5 November 2012 19: 42
        You have the right train of thought, thank you!
  29. Rumi007
    0
    31 October 2012 02: 07
    More of these "Loshariks" ...
  30. asavchenko59
    0
    31 October 2012 06: 38
    All this is good and even excellent, but who will get then, after upholding, all these riches and territories? Our villains are liberals, oligarchs. I am sure that these villains will carry out instant privatization and all actions smoothly, without war and air shocks, will be transferred to Jewish Americans.
    1. 0
      31 October 2012 09: 25
      your suggestions are to give all the paws to the top right away — we are not the last generation of Russians on this earth, and the Russians have always lived a wonderful distance, so that the children will live well, maybe they will throw off all these friends from the neck - they are smarter than us, but there is no shelf? or maybe vice versa - they don’t know what they’re preparing one hydrocarbon needle for, anyway, they will definitely need fuel for the tanks!
    2. 0
      5 November 2012 19: 40
      Explain what liberals and oligarchs have in common? In my opinion, these are not comrades at all.
  31. 0
    31 October 2012 09: 16
    we must do everything at the same time and prove and drill (if there is already an opportunity) who can seriously hinder us? don’t even see them on the horizon, yapping at the UN? except for the USA and China, I don’t listen to anyone there! they bark without stopping, with or without, I don’t even know why these stones were there for examination, half a ton as much — they would make souvenirs from them and sell them — they would immediately grab money fuel loshariku.Flag put on the bottom, everything is enough evidence!
  32. Law
    Law
    0
    31 October 2012 10: 27
    We don’t need someone else’s, but we won’t give up our own, I don’t understand what the UN is in our time and what it is for, a bunch of scumbags who can do nothing when there are wars all over the Middle East and people die, and why it’s in their own created time? its authority has been exhausted, and Russia needs to bend its line, you can endlessly carry samples of rocks and water samples, fish samples, caviar and oil to them on the table, and they don’t want to smell fist 8 pounds, I think then things moved faster with places!
  33. +2
    31 October 2012 11: 18
    It won’t work without a fist. It’s like trying to prove to the gopnik in the gateway that your phone is not and you won’t give it away. poking him a box and a check.
  34. SIT
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    31 October 2012 11: 30
    However, even if Russia nevertheless succeeds in obtaining evidence that the UN will accept, our country will not withdraw at all 1,2 million square meters. km of the Lomonosov Ridge, as politicians expect. According to Article 76 of the UN Convention on the Law of the Sea (Russia ratified it in 1997), a country can only rely on 350 miles of the continental shelf from the northernmost land point. This was confirmed to Kommersant by a source at the VNIIOkeangeologiya and deputy director of the Institute of Oceanology of the Russian Academy of Sciences, Mr. Lobkovsky. Considering that the economic zone of Russia already extends 200 miles from the northern shores, even in the case of the favor of UN experts, our country will not receive the entire Arctic, but only 150 additional miles to its territory (about 277 km). Canada, Denmark and the USA are claiming their 350-mile pieces of the shelf, which do not intersect with the Russian one at all, which makes the statements of politicians about the war for the Arctic highly exaggerated.
    1. 0
      31 October 2012 20: 59
      Not a single country in the world has such a powerful icebreaker fleet as ours in Russia, and Americans sometimes ask our icebreakers for help. So that we can fully use the territories of the Arctic Ocean at our discretion. And let everyone else spit and grit their teeth, this is our territory. And as an argument, we have for this the Northern Fleet. soldier angry
      1. 0
        1 November 2012 00: 03
        And how many ships are under way, from this very northern fleet? No. Here I am about the same ... sad
  35. Shulz-1955
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    31 October 2012 14: 12
    If GDP took up this problem, then comments are no longer needed, and so everything is clear. Scientists will prove everything that Russia needs
    1. +1
      1 November 2012 00: 04
      Super-GDP flies to the rescue! angry laughing Let’s do it without frank PR. Yes
    2. Gren9
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      1 November 2012 02: 16
      It turns out, if the GDP takes on the problem of Mars, then our scientists will prove that there is life on Mars? laughing
  36. Scherbos
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    1 November 2012 14: 46
    Don’t give anything to anyone! There, besides Brazil and China, a lot of equatorial countries want to be in the subject
  37. -1
    2 November 2012 00: 22
    Already imagined the Arctic underwater wars of the future) Ohhh, very cold war)
  38. +1
    2 November 2012 23: 50
    "..... As the Ministry of Defense told Izvestia, the boat helped to correct the drilling operations that were carried out from the diesel-electric icebreakers Kapitan Dranitsyn and Dikson to determine the outer border of the Russian continental shelf.

    - As a result of joint work, a huge amount of geological material was obtained. More than 500 kg of fragments of classified rocks were selected. .............
    He added that, according to the Ministry of Natural Resources, the Lomonosov and Mendeleev ridges have oil and gas reserves of more than 5 billion tons of standard fuel.

    During the expedition, the entire ridge was examined and three wells were drilled in two areas with soil sampling. With the help of the Losharik equipped with manipulators, the soil was able to be collected using a dredge (a device for cleaning rocks from deposits), a telegraph (a heavy-duty bucket with a camera) and a hydrostatic tube.

    Work was carried out at a depth of 2,5 km to 3 km for 20 days. Due to the nuclear reactor and the unique titanium hull, the boat can be under water much longer than the civilian bathyscaphes on batteries.

    According to one of the expedition members, during the work, the external lighting system was damaged near the boat, which helps the boat “see” the bottom at a depth and find various objects. In addition, it will be necessary to repair the manipulators with which the boat takes soil samples and other objects from the ocean floor.

    Now Losharik is being prepared for maintenance in the 42nd workshop of the Sevmash plant. ...........................
    The carrier “Losharika” is a converted strategic submarine of Project 667 “Squid”, in which the launch mines of ballistic missiles are dismantled - the bathyscaphe is mounted under its bottom.

    “In February of this year, we were already repairing the Losharik.” Prepared him for a trip to the North Pole. Additional bathymetric equipment was installed for seismic profiling of the seabed - in particular, a profilograph (a device for measuring the depth of bottom sediments), a side-scan sonar, etc. Then they prepared spare parts and titanium plates for repeated repairs. We also finalized the carrier boat, installed a multi-beam echo sounder on it, ”the representative of the Ministry of Defense continued.

    - The need for such an apparatus is very high. In Russia, in addition to Losharik, only deepwater stations Mir can operate at a depth of 2-3 km. In the last expedition, under the leadership of Arthur Chilingarov, both Worlds were used. But now I had to perform more complex and lengthy underwater work. For her, the “Worlds" lack autonomy. Therefore, we decided to use Losharik, ”Izvestia’s interlocutor explained.

    According to the representative of the Ministry of Defense, if Mir operates on batteries that provide operation for 72 hours, then Losharik is a full-fledged submarine with a nuclear reactor. It allows you to provide autonomous operation of the bathyscaphe for several months. On it there are places for the crew to relax, workrooms, a galley, etc. At the same time, the regeneration of air and water is provided no worse than at space stations.

    “Worlds, in fact, are pleasure bathyscaphes.” They have weak manipulators, with a limited number of movements, you can’t put additional bathymetry equipment, ”explained the representative of the Ministry of Defense.

    Now "Losharik" together with the carrier are part of the Main Directorate of Deep Sea Research (GUGI) of the Ministry of Defense, which reports directly to Defense Minister Anatoly Serdyukov. In military-industrial circles, the GUGI is unofficially called underwater intelligence ....... "

    Read on: http://izvestia.ru/news/538268#ixzz2B61At0Rm
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