The commander of the brigade "Vostok" spoke about the possible consequences of the withdrawal of troops from Kherson

As a result of the withdrawal of Russian troops from the right bank of the Dnieper River, including the regional center of Kherson, a large grouping of the Armed Forces of Ukraine (AFU) will be released. Alexander Khodakovsky, commander of the Vostok brigade, writes about this in his Telegram channel.

Since the Russian troops, having left Kherson, will gain a foothold on the left bank of the Dnieper and will not attack for the time being, the enemy will have enough limited in number and quantity of equipment and weapons to maintain the existing situation. They will require much less than was previously concentrated in the Kherson direction.

The enemy spent much less effort and money on the "capture" of Kherson than we did on the capture of the unfortunate Pavlovka

- writes Khodakovsky.

Accordingly, the Ukrainian troops stationed in the Kherson region largely retained their combat capability. They will inevitably "surface" in the near future in some other direction. But in most directions, as the Vostok commander notes, Russian troops are not too numerous.

It is clear that the Ukrainian army will not go forcing the Dnieper. Therefore, part of the Russian troops from the Kherson direction will be removed. Now the Russian command is faced with a very important task - to competently dispose of the liberated forces and regroup them in those areas where the arrival of additional Ukrainian troops can be expected.

One can agree with Khodakovsky and add that in this situation, the most important task will be to prevent breakthroughs by Ukrainian troops in other directions, including the Zaporozhye direction and Donbass.

Comments

[akropin]

Forgive Kherson, I'm ashamed of Russia.

[Smoker]

Quote: akropin

Forgive Kherson, I'm ashamed of Russia.

Patriotic feelings specifically rinsed into this company .. Is it the goal that there would be something to bargain with the United States for a place in the sun ... and our people took everything at face value ... The last bastion of faith in a just cause, inherited from The USSR - fell or practically fell ... A noble vaccination against patriotism - that's what NWO is!

[kasatky]

If each of us realizes his patriotic feelings in high-quality, qualified, timely performance of his official duties, then Victory will come. In the meantime, teachers are sitting in class on smartphones, cleaners are spreading dirt on the floor, locksmiths are hammering screws, constructors are working for a basket, managers are sawing the budget, politicians are buying villas abroad, and shit is shown on TV (instead of reliable news, educational programs, etc.) n.) - there will be no victory. God willing, and the war will help us purify ourselves. Amen.

[Andrey Kuligin]

did not work as an instructor of the district committee in the ideological department? musty song from those times.

[Luenkov]

Has the goal or approach changed since then? Actual. Musty, it can be for loafers.

[Chervony Biker]

Thank you. Bitter but fair words!

[Sarmat Sanych]

Smoker, die from smoking, stop this business.
Such a "withdrawal of troops" that no one has been able to take away a single meter of territory from us over the past decades, while Russia is the only one out of 225 countries that has been continuously increasing its lands since 2008, and by force, from which all other states of the world admire. 50% of the Arctic Ocean with a size of 2,1 million square kilometers, Abkhazia and its long Black Sea coast, South Ossetia, Crimea and its long Black Sea coast, from February 24, 2022. 100% of the Sea of ​​Azov, plus, in fact, the entire "Ukrainian" extended Black Sea coast, plus 4 regions, even with the current incomplete area of ​​​​90 thousand square kilometers - everything is now ours. Albeit without a micropiece of Kharkov and a micropiece of Kherson. The entire territory of "Ukraine" before the NVO was the possession of the collective West, they did not take it from us, but we took it from them. We see something. We want. Can. We pick up. Empire.
“Not a single post should be considered a fortress ... there is no shame in giving up a post to an enemy superior in number. On the contrary, this is the art of war in order to retreat in time without loss. more valuable than the post itself.
(c) Alexander Vasilievich Suvorov, one of the greatest commanders in the history of mankind, the work "The Science of Victory"

[Irokez]

You are correct Sarmatsan.
It is not yet evening and the NWO has not ended there, and after the fall there will be a rise. And those who give up - they lose. Who screams more - those are to blame.
Russia has already risen from its knees, and now it is necessary to take the first steps in a new position, when they want to put it on its knees again by all available means.
Everything will be fine (I found out - God is with us ).

[Canep]

Quote: Irokez

It's not evening yet and CBO is not over,

Evening is not evening, our commanders have shown that they can surrender the city, the regional center without a fight. NO FIGHT!!! Simply because it is difficult for them to provide a good springboard.

[Alien From]

I agree with Saper! They gave it up without a fight. And who is for this city and not only for this
Lay down your life! Their relatives, children, friends, colleagues, and the local population who believed in Russia, and ordinary citizens, what to do????????? One deception around, more, I personally, and many of mine, we do not BELIEVE!

[vadim_ivanov]

The military has nothing to do with it. This is Putin's order

[Luenkov]

Why did they enter Kherson if they passed it like that?

[aleks_29296]

The question is not that they lost a post or an outpost. The question is, what was the point of beating all these show-offs like - the Russian world, Russia is here forever, etc. and then get so pissed off. And people did believe it. And what will happen to these people now?

[Abbot]

Quote: akropin

Forgive Kherson, I'm ashamed of Russia.

And I'm ashamed of you - nurse Akhedzhakova.

[vadim_ivanov]

Bidding with God's chosen ones, ours are striving back and forth, from this the formula is to swallow the earth or burp back. World pontysne give peace to the environment, freezing the money of the island of the yacht sex on this all, from this we dance

[Patriot228]

Let's start with the fact that you are lying. Not only Russia. Medvedev gave Norway a huge piece of oil-bearing territory.

[nedgen]

Quote: Patriot228

Let's start with the fact that you are lying. Not only Russia. Medvedev gave Norway a huge piece of oil-bearing territory.

Not only Medvedev. Until 1989, the USSR owned 50% of the Arctic. Now officially only 12 mile coastal zone. I wrote off this water area, it seems EBN anchored him in the XNUMXrd passage with a twist.

[maratkoRuEkb]

well, you don’t know, but you’re talking garbage, the Arctic belongs to us even now.

[nedgen]

Quote: maratkoRuEkb

well, you don’t know, but you’re talking garbage, the Arctic belongs to us even now.

And who told you this? When was the last time you looked at a modern world map? Why do you think pind ... syz open their mouths to Wrangel Island? But because the EBN has signed an international convention on territorial waters and it is written in black and white that the waters are only 12 (twelve) mile zone (nautical miles) from their own shores !!! And this means that, unfortunately, the Arctic (well, 50% as in the days of the USSR) DOES NOT belong to Russia. I would like this to be false, but unfortunately... It seems that now, according to international weather, this zone has increased from 12 to 20 miles, but not everywhere. For example, in the Aegean Sea, the Turks do not agree with this because then the Aegean Sea will become 90% of the waters of Greece. And as for the Arctic, check it all the same and then say that I am writing garbage!

[vicking]

And what about Yeltsin??! From the very beginning of the operation of the UN Convention on the Law of the Sea (circa 1960), the USSR accepted it - thereby, among other things, the statements of the Government of the USSR of 1926 lost force

[nedgen]

Quote from viking

And what about Yeltsin??! From the very beginning of the operation of the UN Convention on the Law of the Sea (circa 1960), the USSR accepted it - thereby, among other things, the statements of the Government of the USSR of 1926 lost force

The USSR recognized BUT NOT IN RELATION TO THE ARCTIC. So finally look at the maps of the late USSR and the maps of the Russian Federation !!!

[maratkoRuEkb]

The fact that EBN signed the questions to him! but you modestly kept silent about the 200-mile economic zone and the Arctic coastal shelf zone +150 miles. not a trifle at all, is it? And if this threatens us, who will prevent ours from withdrawing from this treaty ?? As long as we keep it profitable.
but in fact, well, show me where in the Arctic NATO combat icebreakers and their aircraft carrier fleets graze off our shores ?? they won't go there at all.
Remind me how the United States blathered that the northern sea route is the property of the whole world and all countries should go along it without the permission of Russia ?? What was the end of the matter? They were shaved hard! Only Russia disposes of the NSR is a fact, everything else is only by permission.

[nedgen]

Quote: maratkoRuEkb

The fact that EBN signed the questions to him! but you modestly kept silent about the 200-mile economic zone and the Arctic coastal shelf zone +150 miles. not a trifle at all, is it? And if this threatens us, who will prevent ours from withdrawing from this treaty ?? As long as we keep it profitable.
but in fact, well, show me where in the Arctic NATO combat icebreakers and their aircraft carrier fleets graze off our shores ?? they won't go there at all.
Remind me how the United States blathered that the northern sea route is the property of the whole world and all countries should go along it without the permission of Russia ?? What was the end of the matter? They were shaved hard! Only Russia disposes of the NSR is a fact, everything else is only by permission.

Yes, about 200 miles +150 miles of shelves, you are of course right. That NATO YET does not have icebreakers is also true, but only in the USA at least 3 icebreakers are being built now, and probably another 5-6 to build in the next 4-5 years. And in the days of the USSR, the north pole was part of the territory. water!!! If you look at a map of the Arctic, you will see that the shelf zone extends for much more than 350 miles. In some places it reaches 1000 - 1500 miles or more. Here on this shelf they open their mouths pind ... sy !!! Yes, and about their aircraft carriers - they cannot work north of the 65th parallel because of steam catapults. Although this does not apply to their latest aircraft carrier. It has electromagnetic. And also to an aircraft carrier (anyone with the exception of those on which VTOL aircraft are based) ice is absolutely contraindicated. They need clean water to get up to speed to launch planes.

[maratkoRuEkb]

the world is changing only groans in the days of the USSR are unchanged. I think our management has more intelligence than many and they know what they are doing.
To begin with, let's wait to see if they can build icebreakers and not let them into the Arctic at all. Russia does not give up its territories to anyone, every year they complain about the Sakhalin Islands that we are giving it back, but in fact, the Japanese are zilch.

[nedgen]

Quote: maratkoRuEkb

Russia does not give up its territories to anyone, every year they complain about the Sakhalin Islands that we are giving it back, but in fact, the Japanese are zilch.

I don’t know about moaning, but a simple comparison of the production capacities of the USSR and the Russian Federation is definitely not in favor of the latter, and the education and medicine of the Russian Federation cannot be compared with education and medicine in the USSR. As for the failure to surrender their territory, this is not for me, but for those who surrendered Kherson, gave about 100 square meters. km ter. waters of Norway only 000-10 years ago. As for the mind of VVP and Shoigu, I’m sure, but I’m not at all sure about the mind of the shoblas around them, starting with Nabiulina and ending with stools. They may not be stupid, but they definitely do not work for the state but for themselves.

[maratkoRuEkb]

but a simple comparison of the production capacities of the USSR and the Russian Federation is definitely not in favor of the latter

Well, of course, the country collapsed, the wild 90s and the Russian Federation should be ahead of the rest? This is too unforgivable simple comparison, I would even say stupid.

and the education and medicine of the Russian Federation cannot be compared with education and medicine in the USSR.

yes, there’s no need to sculpt second nonsense here, according to our education, young people still win science olympiads, often occupy the entire pedestal. And in medicine now everything is very good, the pandemic was even tolerated normally. Modern equipment in every hospital.

and to those who passed Kherson

do you again consider yourself smarter than the military? do you have a specialized military education, do you have all the intelligence data and reports from the field? Then on what basis can you say this?

starting with Nabiulina and ending with stools, I’m not at all sure. They may not be stupid, but they definitely do not work for the state but for themselves.

And Nabiulina works quite well, what are the complaints? The state has been under sanctions for 9 years already, the largest sanctions in history and the country did not collapse economically, was not destroyed, I don’t see empty store shelves, lack of essentials and food, the entire population lives as before and wanted to chhat sanctions. From this we can conclude that the country's economy is stable, it overcomes crises, what else do you need? You are already snickering quite apparently and do not see the obvious things.
And according to Serdyukov, here is an analysis of his activities https://aftershock.news/?q=node/383184&full He completed the task that was set for him! He broke the old system mercilessly, thanks to which it was possible to build a new one.

[nedgen]

Well, yes, of course, only the collapse of the USSR is to blame for the destruction of WORKING factories, only the collapse of the USSR is to blame for why even now MILITARY FACTORIES are going bankrupt. Managers have NOTHING to do with this.

About education. Yes, they win the Olympiads, but ordinary schoolchildren and people who have just graduated from school cannot answer ELEMENTARY questions about history. And all this because EVERYTHING IN EDUCATION IS EXCELLENT? And the Olympiads are won by SPECIALLY trained schoolchildren, and not by those who were taken directly from the school desk.

As for medicine, I did not invent it, and new technology does not mean BETTER medicine. Because technology is just a tool, and a tool without a head is NOTHING.

And about the surrender of Kherson. Yes, I'm not a military man, and neither are you. BUT it was too much of a coincidence. The surrender of Kherson and suddenly the unlocking of 20 tons of fertilizers in Belgium, suddenly the London Stock Exchange will trade in Russian metals and a couple of other little things !!! And it’s also clear to the last fool that by leaving Kherson, Russia is losing a convenient foothold, which, in the presence of Amer’s assistance with reconnaissance to dill, makes forcing the Dnieper almost impossible. Not to mention the reputational losses of "leaving Russian territory."

About Serdyukov. You don't need to break something big. Even if he was instructed to do this, at least he messed up the wood so much that it still goes around and will go around for another 10 years. And he was also recently assigned the leadership of a united airline, but he almost destroyed the entire aircraft industry and he was expelled from there. So no need to bleach it. As for Nabiulina, she's not a genius at all. The loss of 300 billion gold and foreign exchange alone is worth what? And she also has one struggle with inflation in her head. And if she looked at how central banks are led around the world and compared her activities, if she is an honest person, she would resign or shoot herself. The task of the central bank is NOT ONLY FIGHTING inflation, but CREATING conditions for economic growth. But she can't do it. But Russia did not collapse and will not collapse for several very simple reasons. The whole world DEPENDS on Russia to some extent. And Russia is too big and has a lot of resources not to survive. About products. Russia fully provides itself with products and even provides them with a considerable part of the world. And this is by no means the merit of Nabiulina. But the lack of machine tools, semiconductors, etc. etc. this is the merit of the whole LIBERTY....what shobly in power. They had the opportunity and even a presidential decree on import substitution and did NOTHING or ALMOST NOTHING, but they get huge salaries !!!! What about my eating. Well, okay, let's say I snickered, but I'm not blind, which can not be said about you. In your opinion, everything is perfect in the Russian Federation. Import substitution is proceeding by leaps and bounds, repair plants do not go bankrupt, if I am not mistaken, the only plant for the production of large-caliber artillery (Motovilikha plants) does not go bankrupt, and everything is excellent in the North-Eastern Military District. Already Kyiv is surrounded and the troops approach the Polish border.

[maratkoRuEkb]

you are a stubborn person, you live in your mini world where everything is bad. I won't waste much time on you because you are blind.
About the destruction of working factories - our country has switched to market rails and inefficient production facilities are being closed, those that do not develop and cannot offer a competitive product. I see no reason why you need to arrange crying.

And the Olympiads are won by SPECIALLY trained schoolchildren

In general, I’ll tell you a probably world-class secret now: all countries train their participants in the subject to win the Olympiad)) But without a solid base, you can’t train anyone! If our base is better than that of other countries, then it is we who win. Why doesn't the US win the Olympics? Do they have better training?
Well, I will add our country is the first in the world in terms of the number of people with higher education. https://aftershock.news/?q=node/66916&full

[nedgen]

Quote: maratkoRuEkb

you are a stubborn person, you live in your mini world where everything is bad. I won't waste much time on you because you are blind.
About the destruction of working factories - our country has switched to market rails and inefficient production facilities are being closed, those that do not develop and cannot offer a competitive product. I see no reason why you need to arrange crying.

And the Olympiads are won by SPECIALLY trained schoolchildren

In general, I’ll tell you a probably world-class secret now: all countries train their participants in the subject to win the Olympiad)) But without a solid base, you can’t train anyone! If our base is better than that of other countries, then it is we who win. Why doesn't the US win the Olympics? Do they have better training?
Well, I will add our country is the first in the world in terms of the number of people with higher education. https://aftershock.news/?q=node/66916&full

Well, about a hard forehead, not only for me, but for you too. I have the same as you IMHO. As for blindness, the same thing, only I see one thing and you another. This does not mean that everything is bad or everything is excellent. You may not know, but unfortunately the world is not black or white, but gray with different shades. As for market conditions, do not hang noodles on my ears. A very large number of factories in the 90s were sold for a penny to people who UNDERSTAND ANYTHING in production. Yes, and these very little people did not want to develop these factories. It was easier to go bankrupt, sell it off, and then build a trade, business center or just expensive houses in the place of the plant. And there are thousands of such examples. And I also want to remind you of the so-called. raider takeovers. And this is also, unfortunately, part of the so-called. market relations I hope you won't deny it.
As for the Olympics, I meant OTHER. In general, the FALL in the educational level. I hope you will not deny it. And there is no need to compare with abroad, especially with the United States, where secondary education is, to put it mildly, der ... oh. And yes, the United States does not win the Olympics. And yes, indeed, their training in schools is ANYWHERE. But it's not about the fact that they are bad, but the fact that training in Russia is FALLING. About the number of people with higher education. So what? If there are so many good specialists who graduated from the university, then why have we been building one stupid frigate for 5 years, but we still can’t make engines for them? Or the fact that there are many educated somehow does not affect production
I don’t even want to cite Roskosmos as an example, where projects are made for DECADES. And probably all because the entire Roscosmos is filled with first-class engineers

[maratkoRuEkb]

In general, the FALL in the educational level

The level of education has NOT fallen, the Olympiads show this and the number of educated people is higher in our country. DOT.

why have we been building one stupid frigate for 5 years, but still we can’t make engines for them? Or the fact that there are many educated somehow does not affect production

Other countries also build ships in such terms. Ships become technically more complex with each generation, you won’t deny it, will you?
I remember in the USA during WW2 the Liberty transport in 1944 was built at a speed of 42 days. Moreover, the first ships were built in 230 days. But we won’t compare a modern frigate and an antediluvian transporter, will we? Or will you sink to that level?
Read:
https://newizv.ru/article/general/27-11-2017/vsemirnyy-dolgostroy-skolko-let-sozdayut-boevye-korabli-u-nas-i-na-zapade-b06ce090-b687-4850-bc1c-ce28b8637efa

[maratkoRuEkb]

I don’t even want to cite Roskosmos as an example, where projects are made for DECADES

Represent in other countries in the same way.
Let's count the successful projects - the Angara is flying, the Vostochny Cosmodrome is working, the Glonas navigation is working. The record of accident-free launches is almost 100. So shut up.

[maratkoRuEkb]

new technology does not mean BETTER medicine

Awesome conclusion, it’s obvious that you are a genius once you made such a conclusion (sarcasm)
Apparently it was not Russia that was the first to create an excellent corona vaccine? The most efficient by the way! the corona survived the pandemic, the health care system coped well. You probably haven’t heard that people from other countries go to Russia for treatment?))

And about the surrender of Kherson

You don’t mix your fantasies with reality there, he dreamed of agreements pfff)).

leaving Kherson, Russia loses a convenient foothold

The military explained that this is not a convenient springboard, what are you talking nonsense? Do not climb into areas where you do not understand.

[nedgen]

Quote: maratkoRuEkb

new technology does not mean BETTER medicine

Awesome conclusion, it’s obvious that you are a genius once you made such a conclusion (sarcasm)
Apparently it was not Russia that was the first to create an excellent corona vaccine? The most efficient by the way! the corona survived the pandemic, the health care system coped well. You probably haven’t heard that people from other countries go to Russia for treatment?))

And about the surrender of Kherson

You don’t mix your fantasies with reality there, he dreamed of agreements pfff)).

leaving Kherson, Russia loses a convenient foothold

The military explained that this is not a convenient springboard, what are you talking nonsense? Do not climb into areas where you do not understand.

Well, I don’t know about my conclusions and what a genius I am, but I myself had the displeasure of being a witness when a doctor without special medical equipment was able to make the correct diagnosis and the so-called. special with a bunch of equipment CANNOT !!!
As for covid vaccines. I don’t know about me, but to put it mildly, you are confusing biochemistry with medicine. In my opinion, vaccines are created not by doctors, but by researchers at the Institutes. Those. scientists, not doctors! Of course, this does not mean that some doctors do not do research, but they are few and usually they research diseases, and do not create drugs or vaccines. And they go to Russia for treatment, and simply because it turns out much cheaper than abroad. You probably haven’t heard, but for example, people from all over the European Union go to the Czech Republic to treat their teeth, because it’s MUCH CHEAPER than, for example, in Germany or France or Benelux, and the British very often go to Cuba for the same reason !!!! But you yourself know more than one or two cases when parents in Russia raise funds so that their child can go, say, to Germany or Switzerland for an operation WHICH CANNOT BE DONE in Russia !!!!
This does not mean that medicine in Russia is bad. This means that in other countries it is BETTER. And in the Russian Federation, it is worse than in the USSR. Especially in terms of the number of hospitals, polyclinics and coverage of pre-hospital care.

As for Kherson, as I understand it, you UNDERSTAND very well.
And I still can’t understand how you can trust the Genschab, especially after the “regroupings” in the Kharkiv region or goodwill gestures. I'm not going to teach Gene though. headquarters how to fight, but if you are so smart, you can explain to me "stupid" why NOT A ONE BRIDGE across the Dnieper was destroyed (and I don’t need to cite the Antonovsky bridge or the bridge over the dam of the Kakhovka reservoir as an example, I’m talking about bridges in the rear of the Armed Forces of Ukraine), Beskydsky the tunnel is also in FULL serviceability, and no need to tell me that there is no way to destroy them. Here, the Armed Forces of Ukraine really do not have the ability to destroy bridges in the rear of the Russian troops. Yes, they can damage, but they have no opportunity to destroy. But Russian troops have such an opportunity, but for the Russian army, bridges are a holy cow. And prove to me that UTB is not so. Of course, they hit the bridge in Odessa a couple of three times and stopped with a stupid excuse. Of course, the bridge in Odessa across the Liman is far away for, for example, Iskander, but the bridge across the Southern Bug in Nikolaev is almost nearby. I wouldn’t be surprised if even Tochka-U from Kherson finished him off. Yes, I know that there were no points in the troops. They are in storage. But the Iskanders are in service !!! And about the convenience of the bridgehead. As my father used to say (quoting someone) Whoever wants to do something finds a way, and whoever doesn't want a reason!!! The same goes for the General Staff. You see, they did not like the bridgehead in Kherson. And there is NO other. And already there is no Kherson as a springboard. And if such a bad bridgehead, why did they hold a referendum in Kherson? They could have left early. Until the referendum.

[maratkoRuEkb]

Again, twenty-five, provide evidence with statistics that medicine has become worse in Russia than in the USSR! Refute the following: Life expectancy in Russia has increased compared to the USSR - This is the most important indicator, but this happened because the level of health care has grown.

can you explain to me "stupid" why NOT A ONE BRIDGE across the Dnieper was destroyed

In order to guarantee a long-term destruction of the bridge, it is necessary to destroy the supports, they will require a large number of missiles, this is impractical, I hope you will understand why further?

You see, they did not like the bridgehead in Kherson. And there is NO other. And already there is no Kherson as a springboard. And if such a bad bridgehead, why did they hold a referendum in Kherson?

You again consider yourself smarter than the military, and you are completely INCOMPETENT in this!

[nedgen]

You know, I'm tired of talking to a deaf man wearing rose-colored glasses. All the best to you and I wish you not to end up in the hospital if you do not have a large amount in your pocket. As for military competence, all the same, by virtue of your profession, a much more specialist than you. Here is my last post. Do you know TIRED. If you so want to consider that in Russia absolutely everything is fine. Here is your right.

[maratkoRuEkb]

The drain is counted.
I hope that you will stop being a pessimist and will be able to see not only the bad around.
There is a very good resource aftershocknews. Here everything is good and clear with the numbers. I recommend taking the time to study the material.

[maratkoRuEkb]

About Serdyukov. Break something big mind is not necessary

Well, for some reason, the previous defense ministers could not break the Soviet system, apparently, a great mind is still needed. I don’t bleach him) I just objectively examined his activities and, for example, I understand why he was given a hero. Completely deserved.

And what about Nabiulina, yes, she is not brilliant at all

I didn't call it brilliant, it just works well.

The task of the central bank is NOT ONLY TO FIGHT INFLATION, but TO CREATE conditions for economic growth

It’s as if you live in a vacuum and don’t know how they put pressure on Russia with sanctions and put spokes in the wheels? It seems to me that you know everything, but your task is to give a shit anyway)) apparently you have such a nature?) You are always dissatisfied with something in life, you always whine. Either in the times of the USSR, then because I don’t ask the military and other ministers for your opinion, what should they do and how to develop the country))

And Russia is too big and has a lot of resources not to survive

According to your logic, what if you allegedly overthrow the government and put a puppet of the West and still Russia will survive? Well, you are talking nonsense, in general, the main thing is just to blurt out something? Would be ashamed to carry such nonsense!

About products. Russia fully provides itself with products and even provides them with a considerable part of the world. And this is by no means the merit of Nabiulina

Yeah, did it just grow? From nothing huh? Did the government do anything about it? The state did not invest in agricultural enterprises? Not financed with cheap loans? Well, yes, everything rose by itself)) The state has nothing to do with it exactly?

And if she looked at how central banks are led around the world and compared her activities, if she is an honest person, she would resign or shoot herself.

And how do other central banks manage? Where are the government debts the largest? In Western countries)) For your reference, in all economics textbooks, the level of public debt of 60% is considered the limit. Well, look at the level of debt in Western countries. And you propose to go their way?

Import substitution is developing, it's even stupid to dispute it on your part.

if I'm not mistaken, the only plant for the production of large-caliber artillery (Motovilikha plants)

You are mistaken, you read liberals))
here is an overview of the topic. https://aftershock.news/?q=node/1175812&full

[Petr_Koldunov]

Quote: Sarmat Sanych

over the past decades, no one has been able to take away a single meter of territory

Over the past decades - I don’t know .... But in one day - they took away about 1000 square kilometers. Note that I don’t even take into account the northwestern shame - after all, it is officially Ukrainian land there. And yesterday we ourselves gave away such a non-figuring "meter of territory" measuring 30 km x 30 km. Without a fight Exhausted (as we were told) enemy. Which does not (as we were told) aviation. Which ends (as we were told) tanks. Which has already destroyed (as we were told) the most combat-ready units. From a territory that (we were told) had been turned into a fortress. And if the enemy goes, then he will go (as we were told) across the bare Kherson steppe: just point and click them like in a dash ... and if they dare such madness, then NOT ONE (as we were told again) - alive from this meat grinder will not go away!

[Herman 4223]

Ah who spoke with moreover and ask need to. Note that the Ministry of Defense did not make such statements.

[maratkoRuEkb]

Over the past decades - I don’t know .... But in one day - they took away about 1000 square kilometers.

what are you wearing anyway? We have added Crimea and four regions, and you whine about the left bank of the Dnieper.
You need to defend the city, and there is a cloud of civilians left there, they would be killed, the city would be ironed with everything possible, how many losses would there be ?? how much would you stink then??

[hector]

Quote: Sarmat Sanych

100% of the Sea of ​​Azov, plus, in fact, the entire "Ukrainian" extended Black Sea coast, plus 4 regions, even with the current incomplete area of ​​​​90 thousand square kilometers - everything is now ours.

This is still in question.
And there is a minus - Svalbard.

[Luenkov]

Norwegians for the first time came there and saw a Russian woman, from small nations.

[vicking]

Svalbard has never formally been Russian; under the 1920 treaty - the territory of Norway with, as it were, a free status of visiting and mining PI; a status reminiscent of that of Antarctica.

[Poplar]

Beautifully written and deftly dragged Suvorov. But Kherson is not a post, but a fortress. In any case, it should have become a fortress, if ... You won’t tell me, otherwise I forgot something: when did we enter Kherson? Didn't we have time to organize a layered defense there? And who shouted from all the irons that the offensive in the Kherson steppes was suicide. And what, no one expected and did not expect an attack on Kherson? Was there no concentration there? But don't we have the strength and means to fashion this concentration? But did they concentrate there in underground tunnels? I can still ask you a bunch of questions that you can’t clearly answer, I just don’t see the point. As for "The Science of Winning" - there are still a lot of theses, but for some reason you slyly chose this one, about some supposedly unimportant post. As if it's just some kind of village, and not the center of a Russian region. And yes, "there is no shame in giving up post to an enemy superior in numbers." - could you voice, if you are so well aware, the balance of our and dill forces?

[Deon59]

Well, well, let's go to conquer the northern latitudes, and the rest can be seen divided without us. Suvorov is a great commander, but apparently our generals did not read it. In his rear, Suvorov did not teach to blow up bridges, and without help he advanced with his soldiers, but did not level the front line and also took bridges.

[Qas]

What? Is Ukraine for us "a superior enemy, before whom it is not a shame to retreat"? Fucking shame if it's true...

[Emma Laval]

Since 1917, everything is more and more shameful. Poland, Finland, however, remember what happened with the territories of the Republic of Ingushetia. USSR 1991. Now again, as for the first time, world prices are rising and unsuccessful offensive actions. The circle is getting smaller and smaller becoming Russians. The Russian land has been losing relevance since 1917.

[guest]

Quote: Sarmat Sanych

no shame to give up post superior in number to the enemy

And how did it happen that some kind of non-country with a population almost 5 times smaller than us surpasses us?

[maratkoRuEkb]

and why is it interesting that she surpasses us? And I know the number of losses, debts and the killed economy.

[guest]

Quote: maratkoRuEkb

and why is it interesting that she surpasses us?

The question is not for me, but for whose quote.

[nerovnayadoroga]

Don't you want to die a heroic death for these little lands, my dear...!?

[Machito]

Quote: Smoker

Quote: akropin

Forgive Kherson, I'm ashamed of Russia.

Patriotic feelings specifically rinsed into this company .. Is it the goal that there would be something to bargain with the United States for a place in the sun ... and our people took everything at face value ... The last bastion of faith in a just cause, inherited from The USSR - fell or practically fell ... A noble vaccination against patriotism - that's what NWO is!

In the Telegram, Rybar writes that in Snigirevka, the Armed Forces of Ukraine have already executed 20 civilians for cooperation with the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation.
To whom regrouping, and to whom evacuation to the next world.
There are simply no words: one rage.

[Alex777]

No one has written this except for Rybar. How did he know?

[Rosemary]

Quote: Alex777

No one has written this except for Rybar. How did he know?

The shots themselves told.

[solar]

Did he post the list? The trouble with these lists - you write that there is no person - but he showed up alive. Better with a general figure, and not with specific names, no one will convict.

[maratkoRuEkb]

there was an opportunity to evacuate, it was necessary to leave.

[Evil 55]

He forgot to add that the Ukrainians would still blow up the Kakhovskaya hydroelectric power station and try to melt our entire group in the flood of the Dnieper ..

[Alien From]

Dear Smoker! How right you are!!!!!!

[Igoresh]

You are absolutely right. After such a disgrace?

[eliel]

Of course, I believe and wish Russia's victory. In general, it is necessary to return all the territories of the Republic of Ingushetia and the USSR. But so far I see forward movement. Poland, Finland, however, remember what happened with the territories of the Republic of Ingushetia. we have been losing since 1917. Then 1991 was another loss. Now again, as for the first time, world prices are rising. The housing and communal services have been raised and will be raised again. As completely on housing and communal services and on gas, unsuccessful offensive operations are still separate from housing and communal services. There are fewer and fewer Russians. Due to the decrease in the Russian population, the Russian land has been losing relevance since 1917. If this war develops, as in the First World War, we can assume that the history of Russia has made a circle. Only a nuance is the territory of the mesh than that of the Republic of Ingushetia and the USSR.

[maratkoRuEkb]

explain what you wanted to say?
what are you even wearing?

[credo]

Quote: akropin

Forgive Kherson, I'm ashamed of Russia.

Don't blame everything on Russia.
There are specific persons who are responsible for making decisions on Kherson, and our questions should be addressed to them, and Russian soldiers and officers, including civilians, will honestly and selflessly fight for Kherson until the last day of retreat.

[ilimnoz]

these specific individuals are precisely associated with Russia, since they make decisions

[Xnumx vis]

Quote: ilimnoz

these specific individuals are precisely associated with Russia, since they make decisions

Associations that you have interesting ... ... The rest associate the Russian people, Russian culture, the Russian army, the ancient and richest history of the Russian state with Russia, where there is the greatest Victory and there are local defeats, ups and downs of Russia, a variety of national cultures that make up the single Greatest culture of Russia, which is considered part of the world culture ... Specific decision-makers understand the heavy responsibility for their decisions ... For the fate of the Motherland. Anyway, we, Russia, will win. You are unlikely.

[ilimnoz]

. Anyway, we, Russia, will win. You are unlikely. [/ Quote] Russia may win. many of us would like this. at least because of the rejection of the West. but your "decision makers" are doing everything to make us smaller. We've already lost. but our defeat is your defeat. and there are fewer and fewer of us loyal to Russia with each "decision" and it's good if we save our lives. Raisin showed...

[Xnumx vis]

Quote: ilimnoz

but your "decision makers" do everything to make us smallere. We've already lost. but Our defeat is your defeat. and all of us loyal to Russia less and less with each "decision" and it's good if we save our lives. Raisin showed...

It's good that there are fewer and fewer "you" .. It makes me happy ... Traitors to Russia are not needed, sit in Georgia. ashdodah . almaatakh. Your defeat is the liberation of Russia, the Russian people from the ballast .. Go to the bottom .. disappear ... For not FIG! save your lives by evading mobilization? .. This is understandable .. Cowardly, corrupt people who imagine themselves to be the "elite", the quint essence of society, but in fact the waste products, the dregs of society .. Fu, you smell bad ... tsipsota ... sewers ... Soros shit-eaters ...

[ilimnoz]

your comment is about Russians, and mine is about Russians and Russian-speakers remaining in the near abroad. the Baltic States, Transnistria, the CIS countries and the same Ukraine. the same Raisin is the last example. this is your betrayal

[Xnumx vis]

Quote: ilimnoz

and mine is about Russians and Russian-speakers remaining in the near abroad. the Baltic States, Transnistria, the CIS countries and the same Ukraine. the same Raisin is the last example. this is your betrayal

I didn't betray anyone. This time. Transnistria, mostly Russian citizens live there, and no one has abandoned them, has not abandoned them, and will not abandon them. The Baltics ... a difficult question .. about the Russians of the Baltics .. a sore point They were deprived of the right to vote, they are non-citizens of small-town pseudo-states .. This is a legacy of the deplorable policies of Gorbachev and the liberal drunkard Yeltsin .. . Raisins .. And that the citizens of Russia killed people there? Can Svidozhido-Bandera, fed by reptilians, make claims? Not ? No need ? Should we blame Russia? War is a complicated thing...Today is your hill, tomorrow is ours...Tomorrow Izyum and Kherson will be beaten off and your Svidomo friends will be hanged...Upside down. We will find and hang, and we will also hang a rat in a green stinky T-shirt without trial or investigation. Like he tripped, fell, broke his neck.

[dedusik]

2Sarmat Sanych (Sergey)
To the above:

"Tell me, uncle, it's not for nothing
Moscow burned by fire
The Frenchman is given away?

Admit it, then Kutuzov took
A big bribe from the French?
The king signed the agreement
And left a civilian in the city?

How much were the orders
For the Battle of Borodino?

If there were bloggers in 1812

@imsindi_z

[dedusik]

In a word, everything according to Lermontov

We retreated silently for a long time,
It was a pity, they were waiting for the battle,
Grumbling old people:
"What are we going to winter apartments?
Do not they dare, commanders
Strangers tear their uniforms
O Russian bayonets? "

[Luenkov]

... a hint that it is necessary to burn Moscow as Kutuzov did, and this is to save Russia? Maybe start with Kyiv? Or Washington...

[Irokez]

Wow, how many correct and healing words that have a lot of wise meaning and show the direction and path for healing the moral and psychological state and nerve cells.
Please do more frequent treatment for emotional alcoholics and all-drinking drug addicts.

[AlexEkb]

I was scrolling through the comments today, "all-weapons", "agreements", etc., of course, if not bots, they have the right to their opinion, etc., and finally I came across this post Sarmat Sanych (Sergey). Here's a great post. I subscribe to every word! Thanks for stating it so clearly!

[Olesya Lesya]

According to one episode, all-weapons rebel here, and the tseposhniks agree, and do not know the real prerequisites. Time will tell who was right.

[Qas]

Yes, we have been living the last 30 years with the same thought: "The Tsar knows what he is doing!" Just looking back, you ask yourself: what is becoming more and more wonderful every day?

[Alexey_Kalashnikov]

The person who wrote such a long comment is already in doubt. At the same time, thoughts are there on a much smaller text. Thoughts may be quite normal for such a discussion, but why excuse me so much - to dry.

[Rage66]

The thing is that in the 9th month of NWO, not a single question is addressed to anyone at the top. Well, not counting the questions in the "smoking room".
How much longer do you have to wait?
Until the Ministry of Emergency Situations begins to build an impregnable defense bastion near Moscow? Essesseno to save the lives of soldiers

[rotkiv04]

Quote: akropin

Forgive Kherson, I'm ashamed of Russia.

not for Russia, but for President Putin and his Defense Ministry, led by a firefighter

[Olesya Lesya]

Don't touch my Russia, and I'm not ashamed. Since Surovikin made a decision a month ago, then there were prerequisites for such a decision

[Irokez]

Quote: Olesyai Lesya

Don't touch my Russia, and I'm not ashamed. Since Surovikin made a decision a month ago, then there were prerequisites for such a decision

Listen to your text as poetry is read.

Don't touch my Russia bot
And I'm not ashamed of her
Since Surovikin made a choice,
That means we do everything.

Just one episode
You can't judge the future
And let the TsEPSOshniks howl,
That balabol all in vain.

This is what you wrote.

[Olesya Lesya]

Thank you. Great. Tsesposhniks will not pass here, we will exterminate.

[Deon59]

I see here it turns out that Tsesposhniki and Kherson passed, and they scammed from Kharkov, Raisins were burnt without looking. Maybe our leadership is working on Tsesposhnikov

[rotkiv04]

Quote: Olesyai Lesya

Don't touch my Russia, and I'm not ashamed. Since Surovikin made a decision a month ago, then there were prerequisites for such a decision

judging by your nickname - "lesya" you are a bot from the outskirts

[Olesya Lesya]

Nope. Grandfather is Ukrainian, and was born in Siberia, now Sevastopol. Russia is my favorite and desired country. Although I have visited relatives many times in Europe, I always return home happy. I like to live in Russia, work, study and love. I won’t give her offense, I’ll stop.

[rotkiv04]

Quote: Olesyai Lesya

Nope. Grandfather is Ukrainian, and was born in Siberia, now Sevastopol. Russia is my favorite and desired country. Although I have visited relatives many times in Europe, I always return home happy. I like to live in Russia, work, study and love. I won’t give her offense, I’ll stop.

it’s immediately obvious that you are an outskirts, Khokhlushka, it’s written in the context of your post not in “Siberia”, but in “Siberia”, learn Russian and don’t throw accusations at strangers, Lesya

[Irokez]

Quote: rotkiv04

Lesya, I repeat once again where I attacked Russia

The fact of the matter is that you can also stand for Russia, but haite the leadership of the country that chose (and more than once) your and my Russia, which means that we all get it wrong?
According to you, yes, but according to me, no. That's why you are against Russia and those who voted FOR Russia, led by the current president.
That is, by criticizing one, you automatically cast a shadow on the other and get an answer for this shadow.
Express your thoughts more clearly and unambiguously so that they can be correctly understood not only by everyone (according to Klitschko), but also by everyone else.

[rotkiv04]

Quote: Irokez

Quote: rotkiv04

Lesya, I repeat once again where I attacked Russia

The fact of the matter is that you can also stand for Russia, but haite the leadership of the country that chose (and more than once) your and my Russia, which means that we all get it wrong?
According to you, yes, but according to me, no. That's why you are against Russia and those who voted FOR Russia, led by the current president.
That is, by criticizing one, you automatically cast a shadow on the other and get an answer for this shadow.
Express your thoughts more clearly and unambiguously so that they can be correctly understood not only by everyone (according to Klitschko), but also by everyone else.

the president is not Russia, they leave and come (although this does not apply to the current one), if you do not understand what is written well, then these are not my problems, but yours, you can see problems with logical thinking. Yes, and the conversation was not with you, so all the best, there is no time for you

[Qas]

I apologize greatly, but we have just completed the mobilization, the meaning of which is to increase the number of our forces employed in the NVO, and they said that this is enough.
And suddenly a retreat in front of superior enemy forces? Well, crap!

[maratkoRuEkb]

Do you know the phrase "tactical maneuver"? apparently you don’t know because you didn’t study at military universities and you don’t understand anything.
the military has a special education, and since such a decision was made, it means it was more profitable than everyone else, is that clear?

[maratkoRuEkb]

what are you carrying?
everyone is doing the right thing, and you disagree with something?

[Silver99]

a strange military operation continues to develop, to storm the fortifications of the Armed Forces of Ukraine in the forehead, this is apparently the central feature of the Russian General Staff ((((, we were told about 8 years of building fortifications of the Armed Forces of Ukraine in the Donbass, and now what about the Kherson mud and winter will they poison stories? The fact that the Armed Forces of Ukraine will now put pressure in Zaporozhye and cut off the land supply of the Crimea, few doubt that, unlike our soldiers, they have a military education. In short, you can laugh at Lyusya-colonel with her forecasts, but in the spring they will most likely trample on the Crimea (((Our offensive without full mobilization is unlikely will it be, well, if only the plywood marshal himself goes on the attack ((((

[skeptick2]

You can forget about our offensive forever. Even with full mobilization (if you manage to catch the fugitives).
As for the rest... No, Crimea will be out of the picture for now. Zelensky can be called a clown and a drug addict as much as you like, but he is far from stupid and thinks rationally. Crimea is too tough for Ukraine so far (although there have already been and will continue to be hits and arrivals).
As for the rest, the situation is very complicated. The land corridor is a big question mark. Even if it is not cut in fact, it can be shot through.
The only thing that can really be done is to try to reach the Soviet borders of Donbass. That will require huge efforts and sacrifices. And it's not certain that it will work. But if it works out, this NWO can be considered finished. Nothing more can be done.

[solar]

on this CBO can be considered completed

You can count, but the enemy may have his own views on this issue

[Vladimir80]

There is no need to advertise Zelentsky, he is an actor, behind him are competent and prudent specialists from the American and British special services

[Poplar]

Excuse me, of course, but what you wrote is complete nonsense. Zelya thinks rationally? He sniffs his coke and voices what he is told, nothing more. Regarding the possibilities of the APU: if it were not for the help of the West, everything would have ended long ago. Hence the conclusion - to chop off this assistance in the bud, namely to turn off the light on the outskirts and gouge into the trash all refineries, oil storage facilities and logistics hubs. Will the army fight a lot without ammunition and fuel and lubricants? I am far from thinking that Russia does not have such opportunities. That's the problem with the political will along the way. But that, as some well-known people in the country put it just now, is another matter.

[Machito]

Quote from Silver99

a strange military operation continues to develop, to storm the fortifications of the Armed Forces of Ukraine in the forehead, this is apparently the central feature of the Russian General Staff ((((, we were told about 8 years of building fortifications of the Armed Forces of Ukraine in the Donbass, and now what about the Kherson mud and winter will they poison stories? The fact that the Armed Forces of Ukraine will now put pressure in Zaporozhye and cut off the land supply of the Crimea, few doubt that, unlike our soldiers, they have a military education. In short, you can laugh at Lyusya-colonel with her forecasts, but in the spring they will most likely trample on the Crimea (((Our offensive without full mobilization is unlikely will it be, well, if only the plywood marshal himself goes on the attack ((((

And general mobilization is when a company of State Duma deputies, the DRG and assault battalions of fighters without rules and other athletes, military correspondents from the leading and analysts of federal channels, propaganda teams at the front from artists, or will they send poor hard workers to the front again?

[Sarboz]

Quote from Silver99

they, unlike our soldiers, have a military education.

Where does this exclusive information come from? Reznikov secretly graduated from the Academy of the General Staff, without interrupting his studies at Lvov University? Maybe it's enough to throw CIPS stamps?

[Sarmat Sanych]

Dear editors of VO, answer the question: why are you printing the nonsense of this blogger scribbling in TGesh for days, and even calling him "battalion commander Vostok"?
Hoda[r]kovsky-Khokhlakovsky since 2016 in the DPR - after a couple of years before that a bunch of people were criminally put in the DAP, the late Hero of the Tolstoy (Givi) beautifully described him in a video how Khokhlovsky left 90 km of the line in a few minutes front, Apti Alaudinov reminded him of this in "60 minutes", Khokhlovsky stood opposite, lowered, smiling cowardly and did not answer.
The biggest claim to Khodakovsky from 2014: for a whole month, Saur-Mohyla was successfully defended by various militia units, but as soon as his Vostok battalion entered there, a day later, ukroboys were photographed at the top! And after another day they were successfully knocked out of there.
Khodakovsky has a typical adenoid face. The lack of oxygen in childhood greatly affects the development of the child. "But Khodakovsky's main fault is not even in this - no one is immune from mistakes and defeats. His guilt before the common cause, which cannot be excused, consists in an attempt (and this - after complete failures in leadership!) Still create" his own, his own army". This attempt led to complete disobedience and even a demonstrative lack of coordination with the headquarters of the Militia, as well as hostile agitation, "poaching" units and the reception of defectors. All my attempts to establish interaction (or, at least, coordination of actions) - were met with a deaf wall hostility. In this situation, he caused irreparable harm to the creation of a unified armed force of the DPR, in fact, "hit in the back" the Slavic brigade that fought on all fronts. The fall of Avdiivka, in my opinion, is generally only and exclusively on his conscience. " This frame geared Akhmetov.
An officer from the Russian Federation has been in charge of the Vostok battalion for a long time, and this simple blogger spends days scribbling volumes in TGS and chats. Why don't law enforcement bodies touch Khodakovsky? The DPR became part of Russia quite recently, before that the FSB had no jurisdiction there. Something tells me that there are daddies with a modest name of four letters on many of them, for 8 years the DPR lived like a black hole with a cantrabass and other things, some in the DPR would like everything to go the same way, but it won’t work out.

[perun1988]

I join your outrage

[1939_1940]

Very interesting. fighters, throw in the frontal ..

[VladMirU]

.... I am ashamed of the rulers of Russia.

[Qas]

Everyone is ashamed. What we are going to do?
My comment is not liked by admins

[maratkoRuEkb]

cry princesses, by God divorced on the site of bots and all-weepers.

[tikhonov66]

"...
Forgive Kherson, I'm ashamed of Russia.
..."
- be ashamed of yourself.

[Pulkovo1942]

Khodakovsky has been writing dangerous things for himself lately. So you can ... ahem get into an accident.

[tihonmarine]

Quote: Pulkovo1942

Khodakovsky has been writing dangerous things for himself lately.

Many of the Khural will not like such words.

[Ivan Ivanov]

Khodakovsky always said them, from the beginning of the NWO. As for the accident, if you mean Stremousov, this is conspiracy theories.

[credo]

Quote: Pulkovo1942

Khodakovsky has been writing dangerous things for himself lately. So you can ... ahem get into an accident.

Yes, the Internet is full of exactly the same opinions both from our side and from the enemy side, I just publish his opinion in the media and massively replicate it, but he is clearly not alone in reaching such conclusions, so I am calm for him.

[navigator777]

One of the few who voices the truth, apparently has not yet had time to dust himself from the Kremlin's henchmen.

[Chronos]

Khodakovsky directly battalion commander Obviousness. This comment is too short.

[fax66]

Yes, he, too, fears for his place and the battalion. After all, until now, from public figures (experts, correspondents, commentators, etc.) he has never asked: “What is it - a refusal from Russian territories? And if not a refusal, then someone calculated how many “soldier lives” we will the return of these lands cost (with the crossing of the Dnieper and overcoming all lines of defense)?I'm not talking about the destruction of thousands of residential buildings and social facilities during this "liberation" ...

[CombatSnail]

Who is stopping them from being hammered now with aircraft and artillery on the march to Kherson. The absence of eggs in the Kremlin?

[vitvit123]

Do they go down the same path?

[Peter1First]

Judging by the video from the telegrams, yes. They go openly along the roads in pursuit of the scuttling, and in the opposite direction they take out trophies in the form of abandoned tanks, hailstones, infantry fighting vehicles, etc.

[vitvit123]

Your camera focus covers 1000 km. Line fronts ?

[Nastia makarova]

2000 technicians took out 2 old infantry fighting vehicles abandoned)))))))))))

[Olesya Lesya]

two tanks are dispersed from different angles over hundreds of publics. So they are trying to convince us that dozens of abandoned.

[novel66]

and intelligence with eggs was selected?

Sorry, I'm not smart enough to write a normal comment.

moderators, very creative, congratulations...

[Sid2014]

The lack of aviation in Russia and the presence of air defense in Ukraine. Otherwise, why did it turn out the way it did??? And the batman is right. Looking forward to more breakthroughs.

[rotkiv04]

Quote from CombatSnail

Who is stopping them from being hammered now with aircraft and artillery on the march to Kherson. The absence of eggs in the Kremlin?

the agreement interferes, but as usual, Putin will do his part, and they will throw him. but then he is no stranger to smearing snot and blowing bubbles about the fact that he was once again deceived

[Ryaruav]

In order to advance near Kherson now, we need at least twenty-fold superiority in forces, but Bandera can not hold large forces, this is the result of the liquidation of the bridgehead on the right bank

[Nastia makarova]

where are you planning to go? forget at all

[kor1vet1974]

in this situation, the most important task will be to prevent breakthroughs of Ukrainian troops in other directions

And how beautifully it all began: the denazification and demilitarization of all of Ukraine. "We will show you decommunization!" (c), etc. And now we are talking about preventing breakthroughs of the Armed Forces of Ukraine in other directions.

[Ivan Ivanov]

"We will show you decommunization!" and two days later, the suspension of the NWO for negotiations even then looked contradictory.

[spirit]

I remember everyone was wondering when the "judoist" would throw in the Dniester region) As a result, the Judoist turned out to be a "fake" Actor)

[Pereira]

Everyone was waiting for the landing on Odessa.
The text of your comment is short, but capacious and, according to the site administration, carries useful information.

[glock-17]

Bluffing is a good move in poker, but very risky in politics. If the stories about the miracle Yudo weapon turned out to be a bluff, then at least it was not necessary to reveal the cards yourself.

[Pereira]

Isn't it time to blow up the Crimean bridge before the Bandera on the shoulders of the fleeing broke into the Kuban?

[Tagan]

Quote: akropin

Forgive Kherson, I'm ashamed of Russia.

Why did you generalize like that, thereby cheating those who are shedding blood for Russia at the moment, and not scribbling that it will come into your head from nothing to do, lying on the couch?

[akropin]

I am ashamed of impotence, and there is no dependence on the location of my body at the moment. From this, the supreme decisions will not change.

[Nastia makarova]

the entire left bank will be guarded by infantry from mobilized

[faiver]

the entire left bank will be guarded by infantry from mobilized

- and sho?

[Nastia makarova]

paratroopers after rest will be used in other directions

[faiver]

paratroopers after rest will be used in other directions

- and sho?

[Nastia makarova]

jammed? ............................................ ......

[Irokez]

Quote: Nastia Makarova

jammed? ............................................ ......

He just doesn't know any more words.

[faiver]

He just doesn't know any more words.

- brevity is the soul of wit

[faiver]

no, I'm waiting for your thoughtful sayings

[Irokez]

Quote: faiver

yes no

You will not understand from the other side, then Yesthen no.
What you want - you don't know who you want - you can't.

[faiver]

what do you want from me? don’t understand - read Dahl and you will be happy ....

[tralflot1832]

So Khodakovsky should be on the front line near Ugledar? Or is he no longer on the front line, for a long time.

[Chronos]

Quote: tralflot1832

So Khodakovsky should be on the front line near Ugledar? Or is he no longer on the front line, for a long time.

Moreover, it turns out that he does not officially command Vostok either, there is another full-time commander. Khodakovsky is the founder and curator of the unit.

[Alixir]

Come on, che, let's regroup again, for the first time or something ..

[koralevviktor]

Defeat has never been a positive aspect in the art of war. Khodakovsky's words only confirm this. After all, the tension created by our troops against the Wehrmacht was reinforced by victories, and not by abandoned villages.

[Viktor29]

Yes, yes, Alexander, who did not get 50000 near Zaporozhye, we could not get to 300000, therefore it is better to drape from Kherson. No wonder why Strelkov has constant disagreements with you.

[fiberboard]

I wonder why Strelkov has not been heard lately. It was necessary under his command to gather volunteers and defend Kherson. People would follow him. But our authorities are more afraid of both Strelkov and the volunteers than the Ukrainian National Battalion.

[Lutens]

Strelkov promised that if he got to the front, he would criticize this special operation. So far, he keeps his word. There is news in the telegram, but rarely and mainly about supplies and recruitment into the battalion.

[Blue fox]

I wonder why Strelkov has not been heard lately

So he is at the forefront. And most likely, he was admitted there on the condition that he would at least not write and say what kind of ...

[Pereira]

Strelkov's place is not there. Someone should replace Shoigu? Why not him?

[Blue fox]

Strelkov's place is not there. Someone should replace Shoigu? Why not him?

Dear colleague, you and I yourself know what conclusion about replacing even more significant X with Y when solving the equation, we are arguing.

[Pereira]

Let's take a look at the classics.


Who will bring the Red Flower?
Do you remember what Shere Khan said about this?

[Pulkovo1942]

I wonder why Strelkov has not been heard lately.

Strelkov was allowed to go to the front, but in return they demanded not to write anything. Personally, I think that he went in vain - he fell for a one-time attack on infrastructure. In the media space, he was much more useful.

[Bayun]

Most of all, our "collective Goodwin" is afraid of... HIMSELF. They hide money from foreigners and acquire foreign passports precisely because they don’t trust themselves and know better than you and me how badly everything is arranged between them, even among themselves, when everyone is just waiting to rob their neighbor or kill.

People - yes - they are also afraid. "Show me the Gun Law in the country, and I'll tell you what the relationship between the government and the people is."

And the fascists? Well, after all, one of them wanted to pray for Hitler's "bonnet" ... "Denazification" is an expression of a cloudy "political concern" in comparison with a simple and understandable one: DEATH Fascism!

[VladMirU]

"Denazification" is an expression of a vague "political concern" in comparison with a simple and understandable one: DEATH TO FASCISM!

Well said. And right.

[rotmistr60]

Yesterday Khodakovsky supported the decision to withdraw Russian troops to the left bank, recognizing that the decision is difficult, but necessary in this situation. Today he complains that the Armed Forces of Ukraine will transfer part of their forces to other areas. Is the truth somewhere in the middle?

[Evgeny Ivanov_5]

He simply considers the situation from a purely military point of view and the impact of the surrender of the right bank on the situation at the front, and he can fall like dominoes.

[Patriot228]

Military, tell me why the withdrawal of troops will lead to the strengthening of positions, based on what factors? If they could not hold out on the territory of urban development where there are positions for defense, how will they be held on flat terrain where there is nothing? Again, the surrender of Kherson opens up operational space and allows you to start putting pressure on Armyansk and, if possible, with a powerful decisive blow, if successful, cut Crimea off from supplies altogether. And then the destruction of bridges and again the "blockade of Leningrad." After all, the Armed Forces of Ukraine will be able, with the help of NATO intelligence, to conduct exhausting fire on our positions, gaining efficiency through pinpoint strikes, while being able to use tactics - move out of the city limits, strike, hide. And if winter is ahead, then maybe they hit fuel storage facilities in the Crimea, and then how?

[I dare to_notice_]

Well, what are you?!...
The Dnieper is wonderful in calm weather, when it freely and smoothly rushes through forests and mountains full of its waters. It won't rustle; not thunder. You look, and you don’t know whether its majestic width is going or not going ... A rare bird will fly to the middle of the Dnieper! (With)
And some kind of bourgeois Chimera with Excalibur, and even more so!
That's why they dumped it on the left bank.
It's SAFE there!
PySy: that was sarcasm if sho...

[Irokez]

Quote: I dare_notice_

that was sarcasm if...

Sarcasm is not appropriate here. You wrote without subtext.

[Nastia makarova]

forgot about the Dnieper?

[Evgeny Ivanov_5]

Well, in general, a strike with cutting off and taking our group in Zaporozhye into the boiler is the most logical, and therefore a complete withdrawal of Russian troops from the occupied territories is necessary. The surrender of Kherson brought down the entire southern face of the front and created the threat of its defeat.

[Mitrich73]

Which direction to hit? You can make a cutting blow to Melitopol or Berdyansk, but this will not cut off our troops from supplies, therefore, for the enemy this is fraught with defeat. Such strikes are possible only with a significant, more than 5 times, advantage of the attacking side. Throwing across the Dnieper for the Armed Forces of Ukraine is a little-realizable task, only the battles for capturing bridgeheads will drain the enemy’s forces to a minimum.

[Evgeny Ivanov_5]

Well, for starters, I would hit from Gulyaipole to the southwest to the reservoir with access to Energodar. As a result, Zaporozhye is surrounded. After its destruction, dissecting strikes on Mariupol and towards Melitopol.

[Mitrich73]

Do you propose a strike parallel to the front line? This puts the flank of the attacking group under attack. From Gulyai-Polye, an attack by the Armed Forces of Ukraine on Berdyansk suggests itself, but it is possible to do this only with secured flanks. Such attacks are possible with a concentration of 10-12 brigades, at the tip 4 brigades and 6 brigades provide flanks.

[Evgeny Ivanov_5]

Yes, half of the boilers were formed from parallel impacts. Cutting off the ledge is done in this way, and it is not difficult for Khokhls to form a shock fist after our departure for the Dnieper. Moreover, we are talking more about saving soldiers than about war. Can you imagine how we would have fled from the Kursk Bulge with this approach? In general, this strategy is very similar to the strategy of the French army in 1940. They also took care of the soldiers and endlessly straightened the front line. What ended?

[Nastia makarova]

Zaporizhzhya and so under the sun ...................

[nobody75]

If we recall Ganibal Hamilkarovich, then at Cannes, his “wedge” turned into “horns”. Knowing Belisarius for a long time, I understand that he decided to do everything backwards - quite the opposite ... Turn the "Horns" near Kharkov and Kherson into a "wedge near Bakhmut and Vugledar. But he managed to carry out his cunning plan only halfway. Surovikin found himself in an interesting position

So he decided to stay, albeit in "shorts", but with stripes!
Sincerely

[nobody75]

I've seen enough at the end of the scoop on People with "military talents". If the USSR had not collapsed, they would have revived the Local Order ...
So there is a chance to cut out both of them - Bandera and the Best People!
Sincerely

[Tagan]

Quote from CombatSnail

Who is stopping them from being hammered now with aircraft and artillery on the march to Kherson. The absence of eggs in the Kremlin?

You just didn't bother to read about it. Nevertheless, there is such information, as well as about the "gifts" left behind, thanks to which some of the "warriors of the Light" have already gone to Bandera.

[km-21]

The saddest thing is that Russia has lost the initiative and it is not yet clear how to return it. And sitting in a strategic defense, you can’t win a war.

[nobody75]

Why can't you win on defense? The Armed Forces of Ukraine are betting on a blitzkrieg - they have no other choice. All their cannon fodder are drug addicts. The economy is destroyed. The infrastructure is being taken out now... Remind me, please, when and whom did the blitzkrieg lead to conquests?
Sincerely

[vvn_vl]

when managers, whose role is the distribution of money, approve the decisions of the military - this is not an army, but ooo ...

[Horon]

come on until

The word "yet" can not even be said.

But in most directions, as the Vostok commander notes, Russian troops are not too numerous.

What kind of offensive can we talk about then? On the other hand, the rows are denser - more meat, or rather arrivals. We fought...

[Alixir]

And how did it turn out 40 and 000 Ukrainians? That is, the armies are almost equal. It is clear that they are tired, but it was possible to strengthen the mobs and drive them away from Kherson. Unclear.

[I dare to_notice_]

Well...
We can draw conclusions.
Russia is not at all what propagandists told us about:
- throws his own and very regularly;
- it is not so strong in the military sense and does not correspond at all to the legend of "Once a Flag Was Raised";
- all those "prodigies" that were talked about ... most likely only projects (at best) or mock-ups (at worst), because during the Strange VO we never saw the result of their work. Nobody saw. Even those who deserve...
- grandmas remained the only ideology not prohibited by the Constitution;
- it is never ready: either there is no money (people collect money for what MUST provide the army of the Ministry of Defense), then the mobile reserve is not trained, then the time is not right, then the enemy is very nasty ... then "grenades of the wrong system "...
And therefore ... the failed Kherson province is the first territory to be abandoned.
For... Nobody in the world is afraid of Russia anymore.
With all the ensuing consequences.
Now we need a new Hero who can raise and lead the people of Rus' to save.
The time of trade turnover is in the past.

[Chater57]

So be that hero instead of sitting on the couch. We will even erect a monument to you later. For future descendants. I even came up with the inscription "He led the people to save Rus'."

[faiver]

Alexander Khodakovsky, commander of the Vostok brigade, writes about this in his Telegram channel.

When does he have time to command a brigade? either in a box, or in a cart, or somewhere else ....

[Nikolay54]

In vain they entered the Russian Federation, they probably already regret it. Volunteers would go to them, knowing that they would not betray.

[St54]

in this situation, the most important task will be to prevent breakthroughs of Ukrainian troops in other directions, including the Zaporozhye direction and the Donbass.

It would be nice if that were the case, otherwise they would not be "understood". Although this, apparently, they "deeply do not care."

[ComixZone]

To everyone who is “ashamed” for Russia, I think it would be honest to sign up as a volunteer and for the “front end”.

[t200404]

What to do, it is better to live in reality than to wait for the capture of Kiev, Lviv, Dnieper ....

[Conjurer]

There is one nuance. The grouping of the Armed Forces of Ukraine on the left bank of the Dnieper, if we have reserves, is the same bridgehead as the Kherson one, only on the reverse side. According to the mind, it should be destroyed first of all, and then think about something else.
And if our reserves are such only on paper and unsuitable for combat operations, the losses in the active troops leave you no choice.
So only time will tell what really happens there.

[Vladimir Dmitrievich Burtsev]

In the Kherson region, it is necessary to declare full combat readiness No. 1, general mobilization and create a people's militia, distribute machine guns, Kornet anti-tank systems and Strela MANPADS to everyone who wants to defend the Kherson region. Mining everything around. Call for help fighters from the LPR and DPR and volunteers from Russia. Call the beekeeper from the LPR, he will teach you everything. Around Kherson, create fortified defensive positions in several lines, tanks T62, T-64 and others that are newer, three or four hundreds, artillery, MLRS, anti-aircraft guns from the arsenals should be given to reinforce the Kherson militia. It is necessary to create a plan for the defense of the Kherson region. So you can recruit about 30 thousand fighters for the defense of the Kherson region! The partisan movement must be deployed in the Kherson region, the operational groups of the special forces should be deployed in the rear of the Bandera. Armed people are invincible! The Vietnamese turned the Americans. You can also call the Vietnamese. So it's too early to hand over Kherson.

[Chater57]

Let me remind you the results of the referendum in the Kherson region - 87,05% This is the lowest result among the referendums in Zaporozhye, DPR and LPR. And how many spotters were caught there?

[2 Level Advisor]

and also - a very important question, how many percent of the total population took part in the vote .. those who did not take part were clearly not FOR ..

[ammunition]

Quote: Vladimir Dmitrievich Burtsev

create a people's militia,

Soldier necessary - to feed, supply and provide. Also, the soldiers necessary manage and command. Smart and authoritative.

Quote: Vladimir Dmitrievich Burtsev

The partisan movement must be deployed in the Kherson region,

Minimum prerequisites for a partisan movement in the Kherson region. missing.

[Vladimir80]

you are a little late with offers, by a couple of weeks, maybe a month ...
ps the active population of those regions is by no means "for Russia", pensioners who remember the Soviet Union - yes, perhaps that's why there will be no volunteers or partisans there - only if they are against us

[ada]

Quote: Vladimir80

you are a bit late with your suggestions...

Yes, 30 years

[Chater57]

One must always remember where Khodakovsky came from. From Akhmetov's security service. And there are no "former guards".

[ComixZone]

Khodakovsky former commander of ,, Alpha ,,. Since there are people with a high level of brain development, templates are not applicable to them

[Boris 1]

"not for Russia, but for President Putin and his Defense Ministry, led by a firefighter"
No, just an ordinary "beskherson" count. Vlasov and Ilyin to help him.

[Boniface]

The main thing is not to place Our defense in the floodplain of the Dnieper!
(the blue color on the map highlights the lowland that falls under flooding when there is a danger of a breakthrough of the Kakhovka dam)

By the way, as you can see - Kherson does not get flooded!

The Dnieper is a flat river and waves above 5 meters are not expected even in the worst scenario.
At the same time, part of the wave will be taken over by the Ingulets River, which flows into the Dnieper before Kherson.

[Repellent]

Quote: Boniface

The main thing is not to place our defense in the floodplain of the Dnieper

A smart person wrote, plus

[Ser Vak]

In some telegram channels, a manual went on, saying that a brilliant withdrawal operation that will go down in history. We learned from the Ukrainians. How everything has changed in 8 months

[megadeth]

But the Ukronazis will enter the Kherson region and the city of Kherson ... will we hit the Kakhovka hydroelectric power station?

[2 Level Advisor]

so the shore where ours is, and then it will flood in the first place .. Kherson itself is noticeably higher ..

[Altmann]

You are crying for Herzon, and our boys fought there under fire, should you have let them die so that you would not cry? Believe Gerasim and Surovkin. He will plan a general attack. First, it is necessary to consolidate the deep occiput. Upgrade trained soldiers with new vehicles. Requires sufficient ammo. and the support of people in the rear is needed.

[Alexandr2637]

I will express my opinion, even though the "urya-patriots" will not like it.
What is happening now? Under the leadership of the Ministry of Defense and the General Staff of the Russian Federation, the NWO completely failed.
We suffered a humiliating defeat thanks to the leadership of the Russian Federation.
Why wait for the situation to improve? Yes, not from what! This pause will result in:
the Nazis, with the support of NATO, will receive new modern equipment, thousands of freshly trained killers and layered air defense.
We don’t have allies, the industry is at zero, import substitution is only on paper ....
So why expect an attack? Nicholas II (Putin) has outlived itself, it's time to retire, urgently!
Minus and toss your hats (cheers to the patriots)

[ammunition]

Quote: Alexandr2637

Nicholas II

Do not slander, please, Sovereign Nicholas II.! During his reign, the population of the Empire increased by 60 million people, with an increased level of prosperity. Besides ! In February 1917, the situation at the front was excellent. The collapse began after the alienation from the power of the Sovereign.

[megadeth]

The eternal question: - "What to do"? And this is clear even without you ...

[Repellent]

Quote: Alexandr2637

What is happening now? Under the leadership of the Ministry of Defense and the General Staff of the Russian Federation, the NWO completely failed.
We suffered a humiliating defeat thanks to the leadership of the Russian Federation.
Why wait for the situation to improve? Yes, not from what! This pause will result in:
the Nazis, with the support of NATO, will receive new modern equipment, thousands of freshly trained killers and layered air defense.
We don’t have allies, the industry is at zero, import substitution is only on paper ....
So why expect an attack? Nicholas II (Putin) has outlived itself, it's time to retire, urgently!
Minus and toss your hats (cheers to the patriots)

But this was written by a fool. Or a provocateur... it’s funny, in general, to read messages that are a year old - you can clearly see who is who

[Alexey_Kalashnikov]

The whole history of the NWO is a chain of mistakes that are amazingly stupid. And they all have full names: Putin, Shoigu, Gerasimov, etc. They must answer for their mistakes with their own skin, just as innocent people answer for their mistakes with their lives. First of all, Putin must answer. Under his leadership, there will only be defeats. But first, Putin must step down voluntarily. That will be better for everyone.

[Nastia makarova]

ditch in its place?.............

[Irokez]

Quote: Nastia Makarova

ditch in its place?.............

Maybe all the same Ksyusha?

[Olesya Lesya]

You are not interested in the NWO itself, but to throw it at Russia and Putin. Maybe it’s better to take care of your potions and overthrow him as much as you need, and we will figure it out ourselves.

[Alexandr2637]

Maybe it’s better to take care of your potions and overthrow him as much as you need, and we will figure it out ourselves.

Here and deal with your potions in its xohland.

[Sly]

As far as I can see what is happening now, the NWO plan is changing and changing for the better, for something logical, and not an initial swoop. Yes, the abandonment of Kherson is a very sad event, but a necessary one, since the Kherson group with weak material and technical support would be doomed. I think in the coming days Ukraine will be divided into 2 parts along the Dnieper, destroying all bridges and crossings, and then its entire eastern part will be cleared. These are the immediate goals of the NWO.

[2 Level Advisor]

withdrawing a grouping of 20-40 000 with heavy equipment from a large territory in a week is not a problem, but bringing supplies and ammunition to them is a problem .. don't you find a logical contradiction? despite the fact that there was a little more enemy there (50) - obviously not 000-5 times ..

[Dvm70]

Our senior leadership has proved its complete failure. I think that after such failures, if these people have any remnants of conscience, they should resign.

[who are you]

Keep your pocket wider, you won't give up good

[Sly]

Quote: Alexey_Kalashnikov

I understand your emotions, but your proposal is not logical.

I understand your emotions, Taras Kalashnichenko, but your proposal, even if CIPSO leaves 100 similar comments in each thread, will not come true. You and your colleagues look just ridiculous, and you probably don't care either, because. you work just for money, and the result is unimportant ...

[Dartanian]

[/ quote] competently dispose of the released forces and regroup them in those areas where the arrival of additional Ukrainian troops can be expected [quote]

trying to catch up to guess the case is thankless and hopeless, our intelligence does not have the means of such control, we may not have time to transfer troops + they still need to have time to prepare defenses + when transferring, our columns will be under attack. It is safer and more correct not to wait, but to strike ourselves. Will our strategies succeed, that’s the question again, I suppose they’ll throw everything in the forehead and kill people

[zloba71]

What kind of seething is here because of the abandonment of Kherson, they divorced, everyone has already become tired. Leaving the regional center is certainly not very pleasant from a moral and political point of view. But! From a military-strategic point of view, this is the only correct decision. We only need Kherson for the troops as a springboard for an attack on Odessa and Nikolaev, but now we have neither the strength nor the means for this offensive, and we definitely won’t have them in the near future. At the same time, remaining in Kherson, our group will be cut off from supplies and the possibility of retreat by the flooded Dnieper from undermining the Kakhovskaya hydroelectric power station. And yet, Kherson, this is not Mariupol, in which there are many high-rise reinforced concrete structures that are excellent for defense. There are 90% of houses here, this is the private sector, in which it would be extremely difficult to gain a foothold. And the city will remain intact after our exit, otherwise the Ukrainians would roll it into ruins.

[2 Level Advisor]

yes, everyone heard the official version, it’s good that you repeated it again .. but from your own thoughts there is why it’s a problem to supply, but at the same time, getting everyone together with equipment in a week is not a problem? + in the absence of a multiple superiority of the enemy in that area ..

[Olesya Lesya]

It is not our people who are crying, but the dill on the payroll.

[Hindu]

The drug addict granddaughter sold a family heirloom - a great-grandmother's diadem. The main thing now is that he properly disposes of the proceeds ....

[trophy]

Since the war is on, the surrender of Kherson must be considered from a military point of view. The main loss is not the city, not the people, and not even Russia's reputation as a mighty military power. We have lost the only bridgehead beyond the Dnieper, captured from a swoop. Now the Ukrainians have in their rear the most powerful natural defensive line in Ukraine. And they will try to prevent mistakes that led at one time to the possibility of crossing the Dnieper by the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation. We got ourselves an awesome haemorrhoids for the long term (this is if we try to continue the war). Remember what it cost us to force some kind of Seversky Donets. In general, it seems to me that no one is going to force the Dnieper either in the near or in the long term. The surrender of the foothold is an invitation to negotiations. That's just and no one is going to agree with the Moscow inmates. We very clearly demonstrated our capabilities in a non-nuclear conflict so that someone would continue to take Russia seriously. So the next strike will most likely be in Zaporozhye in the direction of the coast of the Sea of ​​\uXNUMXb\uXNUMXbAzov by forces removed from the merged bridgehead. And we, wherever we try (with the exception of Belarus, but the dad is unlikely to do this again), if successful, one horseradish will run into the Dnieper with all the consequences. So most likely we will have to prepare for a shameful truce, because as long as Ukraine remains on the map as a state of peace, there will be no peace. It's either all or nothing.

[nobody75]

And they will try to prevent mistakes that led at one time to the possibility of crossing the Dnieper by the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation.

I wonder how? Acting on internal communications a la Frederick the Great in the Seven Years' War? Do the people with the letter x have this very Friedrich?
Sincerely

[2 Level Advisor]

Quote: nobody75

Do the people with the letter x have this very Friedrich?

dofiga and they have more opportunities .. all NATO strategists and intelligence are at their disposal .. let's just see who has had more success in recent months ..

[nobody75]

What are their successes In Kherson and Krasny Liman, special chupa-chups are produced? Will Russia perish without them?
Sincerely

[2 Level Advisor]

Russia without many regions will not perish - why is it, let's distribute the regions? and the fact that the territory occupied by the Russian Federation has been decreasing for the last six months is a fact ... not even occupied .. Kherson is the territory of the Russian Federation, where we left from ... as if they had left Kursk or Volgograd .. is this not their success? What then is success?

[nobody75]

Success is survival. The systematic destruction of the economy and population of Ukraine.
Sincerely

[Ratibor_A]

Quote: kasatky

If each of us realizes his patriotic feelings in high-quality, qualified, timely performance of his official duties, then Victory will come. In the meantime, teachers are sitting in class on smartphones, cleaners are spreading dirt on the floor, locksmiths are hammering screws, constructors are working for a basket, managers are sawing the budget, politicians are buying villas abroad, and shit is shown on TV (instead of reliable news, educational programs, etc.) n.) - there will be no victory. God willing, and the war will help us purify ourselves. Amen.

If you and your environment work this way, it does not mean that everyone works this way. On the contrary, I will say that the bulk of the people work in good faith, so there is no need to judge others by yourself. As always, a scoundrel sees only scoundrels in others....

[Strannik96]

Quote: rotkiv04

Quote: akropin

Forgive Kherson, I'm ashamed of Russia.

not for Russia, but for President Putin and his Defense Ministry, led by a firefighter

The President and the Defense Ministry did the right thing, although it is bitter, but you need to have the willpower to admit it to them. And the belief in victory among the majority here is like a wave of the sea, an anchor is needed. During the Patriotic War, we gathered at the speaker on the street, listened to the report of the Sovinforburo and went back to our places to work. It was already written at the top - everyone should do their own thing. And the majority here are still comrades from the other side, it’s good that not everyone reads VO.

[Zaurbek]

In this particular situation, it’s probably right ...... strategically - not right .... just like they were late with mobilization ... It was necessary to go forward (if there were forces) and stop in Nikolaev.

[Strannik96]

Quote: Trofim

Since the war is on, the surrender of Kherson must be considered from a military point of view. The main loss is not the city, not the people, and not even Russia's reputation as a mighty military power. We have lost the only bridgehead beyond the Dnieper, captured from a swoop. Now the Ukrainians have in their rear the most powerful natural defensive line in Ukraine. And they will try to prevent mistakes that led at one time to the possibility of crossing the Dnieper by the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation. We got ourselves an awesome haemorrhoids for the long term (this is if we try to continue the war). Remember what it cost us to force some kind of Seversky Donets. In general, it seems to me that no one is going to force the Dnieper either in the near or in the long term. The surrender of the foothold is an invitation to negotiations. That's just and no one is going to agree with the Moscow inmates. We very clearly demonstrated our capabilities in a non-nuclear conflict so that someone would continue to take Russia seriously. So the next strike will most likely be in Zaporozhye in the direction of the coast of the Sea of ​​\uXNUMXb\uXNUMXbAzov by forces removed from the merged bridgehead. And we, wherever we try (with the exception of Belarus, but the dad is unlikely to do this again), if successful, one horseradish will run into the Dnieper with all the consequences. So most likely we will have to prepare for a shameful truce, because as long as Ukraine remains on the map as a state of peace, there will be no peace. It's either all or nothing.

It seems to me that textbooks will soon be written according to "professional" comments on VO. Where are you from - a shameful truce?

[Strannik96]

Quote from Dartanyan

competently dispose of the liberated forces and regroup them in those areas where the arrival of additional Ukrainian troops can be expected

trying to catch up to guess the case is thankless and hopeless, our intelligence does not have the means of such control, we may not have time to transfer troops + they still need to have time to prepare defenses + when transferring, our columns will be under attack. It is safer and more correct not to wait, but to strike ourselves. Will our strategies succeed, that’s the question again, I suppose they’ll throw everything in the forehead and kill people

They will call strategists with VO who have all the information

[Strannik96]

Quote: Sly

Quote: Alexey_Kalashnikov

I understand your emotions, but your proposal is not logical.

I understand your emotions, Taras Kalashnichenko, but your proposal, even if CIPSO leaves 100 similar comments in each thread, will not come true. You and your colleagues look just ridiculous, and you probably don't care either, because. you work just for money, and the result is unimportant ...

It’s good that you’re here bringing Tarasov out of the darkness into the light

[iouris]

Now, finally, everything is clear: the problem is not tactics. The problem is in the base and in the political superstructure. In Ukraine, everything has already been sold to transnational companies (and the Chinese).

[Strannik96]

Quote: Alexandr2637

I will express my opinion, even though the "urya-patriots" will not like it.
What is happening now? Under the leadership of the Ministry of Defense and the General Staff of the Russian Federation, the NWO completely failed.
We suffered a humiliating defeat thanks to the leadership of the Russian Federation.
Why wait for the situation to improve? Yes, not from what! This pause will result in:
the Nazis, with the support of NATO, will receive new modern equipment, thousands of freshly trained killers and layered air defense.
We don’t have allies, the industry is at zero, import substitution is only on paper ....
So why expect an attack? Nicholas II (Putin) has outlived itself, it's time to retire, urgently!
Minus and toss your hats (cheers to the patriots)

The expression “humiliating defeat” - to dishonor, for the purpose of self-affirmation, do you want to assert yourself? “The SVO has completely failed - industry is zero, import substitution is only on paper” - this is where - in Ukraine, but in this sense you are right

[Alexandr2637]

this is where - in Ukraine, but in this sense you are right

No, my friend, this is our mother in Russia.
Look around (if you are in Russia), go to the store, talk to friends (if you have them). I don’t care what’s going on in Hohland, but the NATO members will train the Nazis there.

The expression “humiliating defeat” is to dishonor, for the purpose of self-affirmation

Ugh, I thought I made a mistake...

Do you want to assert yourself?

Where does this “original smart” conclusion come from?

[Hindu]

Quote: I dare_notice_

Well...
We can draw conclusions.
Russia is not at all what propagandists told us about:
- throws his own and very regularly;
- it is not so strong in the military sense and does not correspond at all to the legend of "Once a Flag Was Raised";
- all those "prodigies" that were talked about ... most likely only projects (at best) or mock-ups (at worst), because during the Strange VO we never saw the result of their work. Nobody saw. Even those who deserve...
- grandmas remained the only ideology not prohibited by the Constitution;
- it is never ready: either there is no money (people collect money for what MUST provide the army of the Ministry of Defense), then the mobile reserve is not trained, then the time is not right, then the enemy is very nasty ... then "grenades of the wrong system "...
And therefore ... the failed Kherson province is the first territory to be abandoned.
Because... No one in the world is afraid of Russia anymore.

Only the surrender of Kherson opened your eyes to all this? And for the past 9 months, not to mention 22 years, nothing was visible? Or did the foreign cars with which the yards are filled create the illusion of Monaco and Singapore here??

[nerovnayadoroga]

No, we still remember about galoshaks (Soviet, USSR)

[Hindu]

Quote: Chater57

Let me remind you the results of the referendum in the Kherson region - 87,05% This is the lowest result among the referendums in Zaporozhye, DPR and LPR. And how many spotters were caught there?

Wow, that’s what everyone says - it was somehow inappropriate!
Immediately I started spoiling the statistics...

[Patriot228]

It seems to me that if we talk about “full mobilization,” then a serious, disastrous miscalculation has already been made. It had to start in March in order to have time to prepare fighters during the warm months. From April to the present moment, Western companies have exported tens of thousands of qualified personnel. It was necessary to immediately close the borders and switch to martial law. And now, in the event of mass mobilization, we will no longer count the huge number of specialists who escaped and were taken out by Western companies, and even try to mobilize a person who does not want this. Is it possible that there will be a war not only with NATO and Ukraine, but also with its own population that does not want to mobilize? When Zelensky announced that we needed to strike at us or something like that, I was ready to run to the military registration and enlistment office, but now? The same corrupt faces in the same places with the same stolen billions, nothing has changed. Yes, and I didn’t notice that our enterprises were massively recruiting engineering and scientific and technical personnel, but the West is non-stop hunting for the best of the best. As an engineer, I don’t see that we are moving into the “everything for the front, everything for victory” mode, cheap salaries, the same managers as 5 years ago, only we are older and everything has become more expensive. Young graduates are fleeing to the CIS, Soviet grandfathers who could have been crippled by Covid. Are we even going to win this war?

[Nychego]

the most important task will be to prevent breakthroughs by Ukrainian troops

And once there were plans to reach Lvov in a couple of weeks.
But something went wrong ...

[Lena Petrova]

Quote: I dare_notice_

No one in the world is afraid of Russia anymore.

We have never achieved this. We are for an equal existence. But some people don’t want equal rights. Hence all the fuss.

[Alexander Golotov]

But with all the upset from leaving Kherson, I do not agree with Khodakovsky. We have been threshing Pavlovka for more than two months, bringing into battle several brigades of 60 thousand soldiers? Suffering daily the same losses as the Ukrainian Armed Forces near Kherson? No.

Now, having cooled down a little and looking at the development of events, the fact that the Ukrainian Armed Forces tried to prevent ours from leaving the right bank is already obvious that such a departure came as a complete surprise to them. Our people didn’t run away like they did from Kharkov, but came out in an organized manner. They left for reasons of preserving the most combat-ready units.

Those who zealously tear their shirts on their chests, answer, do you want a repeat of Mariupol only in reverse? What would you say if our group were pressed into encirclement? Shouldn’t you have asked Surovikin, why didn’t we withdraw to save the army? Now we don’t have 10 million in arms, as we had in the Second World War, but a very limited contingent. Considering the losses, they finally realized that he needed to be protected. Not like at the beginning of the SVO.

Comrades, be patient, Yes, it’s a shame, your heart shrinks, there are tears in your eyes from the insult. But we must understand that thanks to our resources, I still hope that the beginning of new high-quality planning for combat operations, including tactics, supply and organization of interaction at all levels, will break the ice.

At least downvote me, but I believe that deeper and more thoughtful planning of the campaign for the rest of the winter and all of 2023 has begun, and Surovikin has nothing to blame for. After 7 months of blatant chaos, he has to put everything back on its feet

[Altmann]

Every military "expert" has their own opinion, which is good, it confuses the Ukrainians and is actually a form of psychological warfare. That is, if we assume that the General Staff, Gerasimov and Surovkin understand. Somewhere there must be 200 mobilized soldiers who must complete their training, cement the unit, they must be ready for battle.

[tolmachiev51]

“They sold” Kherson!!! - somehow the small-shaven people abruptly allowed trade in metal, Rotterdam opened the export of fertilizers, lifted restrictions on the price ceiling for Indian oil, even the UN supported the policy of grain trade - is it just like that!? The media is giving us all sorts of blizzards.

[Comandor777]

I don’t understand the all-wasters, would you like Russia to accept a general battle in a position that is unfavorable for itself? When a group cannot be properly supplied? We will fight where it is advantageous for us to win for sure.

[who are you]

Well, yes, the optimal position is near the village of Kryukovo

[scoffer]

I read with interest the local holivar. He's not talking about anything! The average person is intimidated by the transfer of liberated Ukrainian Armed Forces troops from near Kherson, but they do not say that ours withdrew more than 20 thousand with a huge arsenal of artillery and armored forces from the right bank. Will they rest in pioneer camps after this?! And in the rear there are still 300 thousand mobilized people undergoing training; they will probably be sent to Turkey to the resorts to warm up?!

[Ranis]

It seems to me alone that the fundamental decision to surrender all territories occupied after February 24 has been made. Negotiations on START 3 are quietly underway - nuclear weapons will also be given under US control, what was created over generations of GDP will be given away in 22 years - weapons-grade uranium has already been given away. If so, then this will be a secret protocol for the ratification of START 4, which will not be shared with the general public. I don’t understand the meaning of SVO at all. Why do we need Ukraine? If we lose the nuclear shield, we will finally lose the sovereignty and integrity of the country, we will get a revolution and the collapse of the country followed by a civil war.
A month ago, the director of the Kurchatov Institute, Mikhail Kovalchuk (a well-known figure), addressed the military with a speech https://youtu.be/jxK5vvfjGFk.

[who are you]

that's right. there is an agreement on guarantees of family integrity

[Zaurbek]

Considering that there are powerful fortified areas near Donetsk, they will either go to finish off the Krasno Liman direction, or to open a road to Zaporozhye to Mariupol.

[who are you]

This is a repetition of the Russian-Japanese and Soviet-Finnish war. We have shown our inconsistency. and now who will quickly draw conclusions from all this hemorrhoids. I hope that our Sarmatians and petrels with Poseidons and fuck tibidoh systems are not cartoons, otherwise everything that we were told earlier leads to sad thoughts in the light of the songs of the 30s that “the red army is the strongest of all”

[Vlvl]

So this is a question for Ukraine. But it won’t be possible to sit in the house when the neighbors surrounded us on all sides with straw and struck a match. And from across the ocean they are dragging some gasoline. Nobody wants war except the USA and fools. I have to.