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Assault groups of the Russian Armed Forces cleared Pavlovka, the Russian flag was raised over the village

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Assault groups of the Russian Armed Forces cleared Pavlovka, the Russian flag was raised over the village

Positive news they come from the Ugledar direction, the settlement of Pavlovka, located next to Ugledar, has been taken by Russian troops and has already been completely cleared of units of the Armed Forces of Ukraine.


The information is still unofficial, that the assault groups of the Russian army took Pavlovka under control, it became known last night. Fighting in Pavlovka was carried out by fighters of the Kaskad OBTF from the DPR and marines from the 155th and 40th brigades of the Pacific fleet. According to WarGonzo, the Russian flag has already been raised over the village, separate clashes are still taking place on the outskirts, and the remnants of the Armed Forces of Ukraine are being cleared. At the moment, the question remains whether there will be a continuation of the offensive against Novomikhailovka and Ugledar, which is located 1800 meters from the outskirts of the village.

The offensive on Pavlovka began at the end of October, ours managed to enter this settlement and, taking advantage of the confusion of the enemy, took half of the village. However, the command of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, regaining consciousness, managed to bring in reserves and the offensive practically stopped, fierce battles ensued. In Pavlovka, the Armed Forces of Ukraine created a strong fortified area, in turn, made several attempts to counterattack and knock out our troops, but nothing happened.


Pavlovka occupies a rather large territory and is actually located on the outskirts of Vugledar, no more than 1800 meters from the first houses of the city. Establishing control over Pavlovka and Ugledar allows our troops to reach the rear of the Avdeevskaya enemy grouping, which is very difficult to take head-on.

It is worth noting that Pavlovka was already controlled by our troops, it was taken back in April, by the way, by the marines of the 155th brigade of the Pacific Fleet, but later another unit that replaced the Pacific was driven out of the village by superior forces of the Armed Forces of Ukraine.
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        1. neworange88
          neworange88 10 November 2022 17: 19
          +19
          They were incapable of negotiating in Pavlovka. They didn’t want to give it back. Not like in Kherson. They didn’t even have time to enter the Armed Forces of Ukraine, but they already agreed.
          1. Pereira
            Pereira 10 November 2022 17: 22
            +5
            The main thing is to find the right words. Do not threaten, but politely ask for a gesture of goodwill.
      2. Nyrobsky
        Nyrobsky 10 November 2022 17: 53
        +6
        Quote: Nexcom
        How else? Everything is done so that the unpleasant topic is forgotten or at least left the front pages of information. And they will chatter there .... A couple of liberated NPs like a village or an urban-type settlement and a mustache.

        Quote: Bearded
        I change Kherson to Pavlovka. Realtor Armagedets.
        Quote from: neworange88
        What incompetent people were sitting in Pavlovka. They didn’t want to give anything away. Not like in Kherson.

        Yes, here, as it were, a recent topic was not completely forgotten, when there was a fuss about the fact that our marines in Pavlovka were "rolled out", but here ONCE and now this is not interesting to anyone, and in general it was nonsense, but 100500 keyboards were rattled criticizing the country's leadership and command. Well, so, they brought the operation to the end, they took the settlement, they clean it up, but no, we need to throw shit on again, they say, this is all garbage. Whatever they do, it's bad for you.
        Pugachikha had a song, your hit looks like - "Call me don't call me, don't call me call me"
        1. Shaman
          Shaman 11 November 2022 07: 46
          0
          The throwers relocated to the Kherson front, fiercely wiping their fingers on the keyboard, oh, their work is not easy as shit-throwers.
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              1. GUSAR
                GUSAR 10 November 2022 20: 22
                -7
                Yeah, how many outright scoundrels and just hysterical fools. When there are successes at the front (and they will be), then these same ones will squeal "Hurray"! There is no point in talking about cissota, and so everything is clear
    3. AdAstra
      AdAstra 10 November 2022 17: 53
      0
      This is the whole point they kept, but we in Kherson do not.
      1. saigon
        saigon 11 November 2022 13: 25
        0
        The point is that the soldiers are ready to hold the lines with their teeth, but they drove through with a word.
    4. K._2
      K._2 10 November 2022 18: 09
      +1
      If there was no whole house left, why did people clear it out? Why not cluster munitions? What were they fighting for? Some questions... Against the background of the surrendered RUSSIAN city of Kherson.
    5. Alpha Omega (beta)
      Alpha Omega (beta) 10 November 2022 19: 09
      -4
      Well, if you think that everything is so easy and simple - go fight! Or are you like "for peace" As for Kherson, as they say - "A la guerre cjmme a la guerre" - "In war as in war" There are always hardships and difficulties. and hardships, and losses, and victories! Or do you think that the military only advances all the time? Sometimes you need to step back, but these are already nuances of tactics and strategy, but you apparently don’t understand or it’s beneficial for everyone to blow here that “boss ... everything is gone!” ))) Sometimes, to win you need to move away. Let Khokhlozh0000pym Natsiks think that Kherson has been surrendered, but in fact - to you! )))
  2. Dartanian
    Dartanian 10 November 2022 17: 11
    +1
    Pavlovka with a population of 2500 people .... Let's call it Kyiv, it will be grander, they took Kherson and we like Kyiv and so every village ....
    1. Gankutsu_
      Gankutsu_ 10 November 2022 17: 13
      +1
      Why be petty. Directly to Washington. After all, New York has already taken, it seems,
      1. neworange88
        neworange88 10 November 2022 17: 20
        -1
        Quote: Gankutsu_
        Why be petty. Directly to Washington. After all, New York has already taken, it seems,


        New York is not yet near Gorlovka. And what part of Donbass is Washington in? what
        1. Pereira
          Pereira 10 November 2022 17: 24
          -1
          Wherever you want, we will vote there.
          The text is too short and invisible to the Site Administration.
        2. Gankutsu_
          Gankutsu_ 10 November 2022 17: 24
          -4
          So comrade above, offer to rename Pavlovka to Kyiv. And it's too small
    2. neworange88
      neworange88 10 November 2022 17: 22
      +4
      Quote from Dartanyan
      Pavlovka with a population of 2500 people .... Let's call it Kyiv, it will be grander, they took Kherson and we like Kyiv and so every village ....


      They took it? They did not enter Kherson. The city is ownerless.
      1. Dartanian
        Dartanian 10 November 2022 17: 30
        -4
        Do you think the ownerless Kherson will go to Zanzibar?
        1. neworange88
          neworange88 10 November 2022 17: 43
          +1
          Quote from Dartanyan
          Do you think the ownerless Kherson will go to Zanzibar?


          I would not be surprised by this option at the present time.
      2. Pereira
        Pereira 10 November 2022 17: 40
        -1
        What an owl on a stump, what a stump on an owl. All the same, the owl does not fly.
    3. guest
      guest 11 November 2022 00: 16
      +1
      There, somewhere, there is a village that Ukraine called New York, it is necessary to free it, this will be the greatest victory over America.
      1. solar
        solar 11 November 2022 03: 15
        -1
        This village has been called New York since the time of Catherine II.
        1. guest
          guest 11 November 2022 16: 08
          0
          If your history teacher reads this, he should shoot himself.
          1. solar
            solar 13 November 2022 01: 48
            -1
            The settlement of New York was founded by Mennonites invited to Russia by Catherine II.

            I have heard that the more limited a person is, the more peremptory his judgments are.
            1. guest
              guest 13 November 2022 01: 50
              0
              Nobody argues that the village was founded by Mennonites invited to Russia by Catherine II, but it was called differently.
              1. solar
                solar 13 November 2022 11: 01
                -1
                Not only was it called that. Its inhabitants were deported in Soviet times to the Far East, where they organized a village with the same name.
                The settlement of New York was founded by Mennonites invited to Russia by Catherine II. In Soviet times (until 1931), they were deported to the Amur region, where they organized a settlement of the same name.

                Situated on the right bank of the river. Topkacha, 4,5 km northwest of the village of Nizhnyaya Poltavka.

                Founded by settlers from the Black Sea region. The original name New York was given by the Yekaterinoslav colony of the same name.
  3. Ru_Na
    Ru_Na 10 November 2022 17: 13
    +7
    Good news, now you need to take Ugledar, there are forces, the troops that came out of Kherson to help, we must finally destroy the Avdeevsky fortified area and make life easier for Donetsk.
    1. Pereira
      Pereira 10 November 2022 17: 42
      -6
      troops leaving Kherson

      The troops that left Kyiv were disbanded. It will be the same here.
      But the Ukrainians will throw their shock fist just under Ugledar.
      1. Ru_Na
        Ru_Na 10 November 2022 17: 50
        +4
        So you personally saw how they were disbanded and are you ready to provide photo, video materials?! Well, we are waiting, surprise us.
        1. Pereira
          Pereira 10 November 2022 18: 47
          -8
          You are funny. Haven't seen such innocence in a long time.
          1. Ru_Na
            Ru_Na 10 November 2022 18: 56
            +2
            And I've caught a laugh from your posts. Write so enthusiastically, directly uhh, now I'll give out a sensation, but in the end negative
            1. Pereira
              Pereira 10 November 2022 20: 56
              -3
              Here, here I am about it. Also ask for a print for the complete set.
          2. Plate
            Plate 10 November 2022 21: 00
            +5
            A person, on the contrary, refuses to believe a word, and you call him ingenuous. The one who simply took you and believed unconditionally would be simple-hearted.
    2. Belopolyak
      Belopolyak 10 November 2022 17: 53
      -4
      Which ones will be released? Leave Petka and Vasily Ivanovich to guard the left bank? Like, stop by, dear lads, is the path clear?
  4. 16112014nk
    16112014nk 10 November 2022 17: 14
    +8
    "Again the power is changing".... © Wedding in Malinovka
    How long ? request It was the same with Kherson - Russia forever. Not even 2 months have passed, and here is another "goodwill gesture". fool
  5. vitvit123
    vitvit123 10 November 2022 17: 14
    0
    With the great heroism of our guys, something happens that you think not freely, but what will happen tomorrow, will there be an order to retreat? And then it turns out...
    1. Murmur 55
      Murmur 55 10 November 2022 17: 29
      +10
      vitvit123 hi, here we should not forget that the grouping of the Armed Forces of Ukraine in the Kherson direction is now being released and where will it move? Zaporozhye? Donetsk? Lugansk?
      1. vitvit123
        vitvit123 10 November 2022 17: 41
        +10
        I do not forget about this and even more, I ask from those hundreds of thousands of inhabitants who did not evacuate, how many will mobilize for war with us? I think 50 thousand for sure !!
        1. Murmur 55
          Murmur 55 10 November 2022 18: 58
          +4
          vitvit123, but they have no way out, Kyiv will not offer them evacuation into the depths of Ukraine, only to the front so that the referendum is washed away with blood, and now I am not sharp and not kidding.
          1. vitvit123
            vitvit123 10 November 2022 19: 38
            0
            What kind of jokes are there? So to throw people, it is necessary to compete with the amers, who is more cynical ..
  6. Murmur 55
    Murmur 55 10 November 2022 17: 14
    +5
    Yes, there’s nothing to say here against the background of yesterday’s statement by ours, and today’s from Kyiv (regarding the future shelling of the Crimea) Pavlovka, yes, it’s a colossus.
  7. RuAbel
    RuAbel 10 November 2022 17: 16
    +5
    And the other day, they seemed to say that this Pavlovka was a godforsaken place and the commanders who drove the Marines there under artillery fire from Ugledar should be judged ... But now any Pavlovka will do! Win, !
    1. Pereira
      Pereira 10 November 2022 17: 24
      -5
      Those commanders were forgiven today.
      The administration will finish my thought.
      1. Ru_Na
        Ru_Na 10 November 2022 17: 43
        +1
        Do you have reliable information that they were forgiven, are you ready to provide evidence ?!
        1. Plate
          Plate 10 November 2022 21: 02
          +5
          Yes, it is clear that the master wants to pour out bile from himself, judging by this comment and the comments in the thread above. What evidence is there?
  8. km-21
    km-21 10 November 2022 17: 21
    +7
    Taking into account the many months of history of the SVO, we should expect that we will be informed about the cleansing of Pavlovka for quite a long time, and each time it will be presented as fresh news. I am glad that at least somewhere our army is advancing. Although, of course, against the backdrop of the Kherson retreat, this joy looks gloomy.
  9. Ser Vak
    Ser Vak 10 November 2022 17: 22
    +2
    At the moment, the question remains open whether there will be a continuation of the offensive against Novomikhailovka and Ugledar, which is located 1800 meters from the outskirts of the village. That is the question, are there any forces
    1. Dartanian
      Dartanian 10 November 2022 17: 32
      -5
      1800m ... Not real plans, comrade, where 1800m and space power, the authorities measure astronomical scales and not meters
    2. Nyrobsky
      Nyrobsky 10 November 2022 18: 03
      0
      Quote from Ser Vak
      At the moment, the question remains whether there will be a continuation of the offensive against Novomikhailovka and Ugledar, which is located 1800 meters from the outskirts of the village.That's the question, is there any power

      Probably, will be. Yesterday Surovikin said that the withdrawal from Kherson would free up part of the forces for their transfer to other directions. If nothing follows, and as a result, Pavlovka is surrendered, then the army team will not understand this, and the people too.
  10. Andrei Nikolaevich
    Andrei Nikolaevich 10 November 2022 17: 23
    +3
    It's like Pikul's - "taking Khatsapetovka"
  11. Alex20042004
    Alex20042004 10 November 2022 17: 35
    +6
    Gentlemen, I read your comments ... and remembered:

    .... Everyone ... fancies himself a strategist, looking at the battle from the side ...
  12. ASM
    ASM 10 November 2022 17: 36
    -3
    Are we trying to unwind the raguille? Where are they going to go now? Accumulate a fist on Kherson, or respond to attacks from other directions? And the equipment gets stuck and the transfer takes significant time. What if we rush to Lvov from Belarus, or we send troops to Odessa?
  13. Laundryman
    Laundryman 10 November 2022 17: 36
    +4
    Pavlova is cool. In the meantime, these settlements have been occupied by the Armed Forces of Ukraine since yesterday evening:
    Borozenskoe, Kiselevka, Pravdino, Kalinovskoe, Snigirevka, Stanislavov, Pavlovka (Kherson region), Bruskinskoe. And this is just what got into the network despite the long-standing order of the General Staff of the Armed Forces of Ukraine not to leak information until official confirmation.
  14. cooper
    cooper 10 November 2022 17: 37
    +3
    It would be time to clean up Nikolaev and Odessa, and not some villages of the long-suffering Donbass. Theater of the Absurd current so-called. its...
    1. Kronos
      Kronos 10 November 2022 17: 59
      +6
      After leaving Kherson, this will not happen in principle.
  15. Altmann
    Altmann 10 November 2022 17: 37
    +1
    Before writing, I always think about the heroism of our soldiers. The withdrawal from the Cherzoma region has its purpose, I believe that General Gerasimov and General Surovkin have their own plan and are waiting for reinforcements of the cemented troops, and it seems that providing rear support will be a priority. Immeasurable heroism is shown by the Russian soldier. The Generalitat keeps his head on a log (figuratively), let's trust them and not always want to know the details, he only serves the enemy. I don't know anything, I just read carefully and observe. am
    1. TatarinSSSR
      TatarinSSSR 10 November 2022 22: 37
      0
      If you don't know, Gerasimov and Surovikin didn't fly from Mars yesterday. They were among those who organized the SVO and all this time were in the RF Armed Forces. In your opinion, all the bad luck of the NWO before the appointment of Surovikin were without the participation of Gerasimov, the chief of staff? Or did Surovikin serve at that time in the Russian post office?
    2. Sergey Drozdov
      Sergey Drozdov 10 November 2022 23: 41
      -1
      It is well written: "General Gerasimov and General Surovkin have their own plan and are waiting for reinforcements of the cemented troops" - this can only be read in the voice of Levitan ... It's a pity that we have not had Levitan for a long time - there is only one state voice left - Dimka Guberniev ...
  16. Alt 22
    Alt 22 10 November 2022 17: 48
    +1
    And then they will give it back, like Kherson, in the form of a "gesture of good will"?
    I believe that traitors have settled in the Kremlin.
  17. Ratibor_A
    Ratibor_A 10 November 2022 17: 52
    +4
    When we left Izyum, I thought that in fact Avdiivka had not even been liberated yet, they were hammering out of it in Donetsk. From Izyum, people will be released and quickly the entire Donetsk region will be cleared .... But after that they did not advance a single meter ... Avdiivka is also for the Armed Forces of Ukraine. Now Kherson was sent and I do not believe that we will move somewhere. And time is playing against us Europe and the United States are intensively producing weapons and supplying them to the Armed Forces of Ukraine and training the troops of the Armed Forces of Ukraine .... We are just a step behind and surrender our territories ... How is it possible, how can we surrender the territory of Russia - the city of Kherson? And surrender the Crimea, Volgograd, etc. to the Armed Forces of Ukraine. will also be justified by an uncomfortable position?
    1. Kronos
      Kronos 10 November 2022 18: 01
      +9
      You can even catch up with a million people, but if there is no competent command and the availability of new equipment and equipment, then everything is useless.
    2. Nickelium
      Nickelium 10 November 2022 18: 01
      -9
      The time is right for us. And it has always been for us. Time plays for those who have more resources.
      1. Kronos
        Kronos 10 November 2022 18: 38
        +5
        Well, the Americans and Europeans supplying Ukraine with more resources.
        1. Nickelium
          Nickelium 10 November 2022 19: 15
          -7
          No, no more. We must also understand that the prolongation of the conflict is critical for the West. Even for the States. In the end, Sumeria will become a non-core asset.
          1. Kronos
            Kronos 10 November 2022 19: 30
            +6
            For the United States, the prolongation of the conflict is only good. The best way to load the military industry and fill the profits by weakening Europe.
            1. Nickelium
              Nickelium 10 November 2022 19: 39
              -5
              Fortunately, if the year is 3 maximum. And if by 6-10 - this is already a big risk. There already people will start asking questions where the lards go. Moreover, there is no profit from Sumeria. And let's not forget about China. Bolivar may not take out two.
      2. Jean Baptiste
        Jean Baptiste 10 November 2022 18: 41
        +6
        Do you happen to think that only the resources of Ukraine oppose us? Or are you a representative of the collective West? Or do you think that the West has fewer resources?
        1. Nickelium
          Nickelium 10 November 2022 19: 16
          -8
          Monsieur Baptiste, yes, I think that they have fewer resources and less time. Your republic is exactly like that. When blacks and Arabs take to the streets en masse, you will definitely not be up to the Ruins.
          1. Jean Baptiste
            Jean Baptiste 10 November 2022 19: 31
            +3
            What resources do they not have enough to resist us in the long run? Please explain, and who in the wild west was once interested in the opinion of a Negro?
            1. Nickelium
              Nickelium 10 November 2022 19: 35
              -3
              Natural or have you heard of such? Now, on the sly, all private companies for nature will inflate prices. For a long confrontation - this is a collapse.
              It is not interested until it gets to Versailles and the Capitol.
              1. Jean Baptiste
                Jean Baptiste 10 November 2022 19: 56
                +4
                What specific natural things do they lack that they could not buy with limitless financial resources? And how will natural resources help us return Kherson? The Indians had 1000 times more human resources, but they did not help them with the conquistodors. And the Arab world had a tenfold superiority in weapons during the period of the proclamation of Israel, the Russian Empire had a huge superiority in natural resources during the Russo-Japanese War. You are obviously very young or you just don't quite understand the mechanism you are talking about.
                1. Nickelium
                  Nickelium 10 November 2022 20: 46
                  -4
                  Well, for example, those that are vital and for which prices have risen sharply.
                  Limitless financial resources? That was earlier. Now, due to the connection also with the Chinese confrontation, the situation has sharply become more complicated. I'm not talking about such trifles as the well-being of citizens.
                  Did the Indians have nuclear weapons? The Indians did not even know how to ride a horse, so, IMHO 0 stupid comparison.
                  When was the last time the Arabs successfully fought? During the Caliphate?
                  In the Russian-Japanese there was such a factor as Kuropatkin. Have you heard of this hack.
                  I more than understand, but you, Monsieur in your France, apparently - no.
                  1. Jean Baptiste
                    Jean Baptiste 10 November 2022 21: 24
                    +2
                    If you ask your dad, he will tell you about how they were stuffed with talk about the decaying West in their youth, and now the capitalist model has burst. The only resource of the West in this war that we can count on to exhaust is human resources motivated to fight us. And we must do everything to make their motivation to fight as small as possible. Economically, technologically, numerically, they are many times stronger than us. there is no critical dependence on our natural resources, everything they need they will buy for the pieces of paper they printed, no matter how many zeros they have to draw on them !!! The only thing that can be affected by time is the motivation of the ukrov, but I think this is not enough. Our resource-based economy without entering the markets in the long run can only survive the Ukrainian one, but not those against whom we are fighting.
                    1. Nickelium
                      Nickelium 10 November 2022 22: 03
                      -3
                      We? Are we French?
                      No, not stronger, but they inspire us to be stronger.
                      Printed papers will turn into just papers as conflict escalates around the world. In general, monsieur, why did you frogs refuse to buy real francs?
                      Our economy will survive and not so if there are competent people. In the end, it was much more difficult for the Bolsheviks and, according to your theory, they should have fallen, but they not only survived. but actually destroyed several European colonial empires. So it's not good to lie, Monsieur d'Artagnan.
                  2. Sergey Drozdov
                    Sergey Drozdov 10 November 2022 23: 49
                    0
                    You don’t pull on General Kuropatkin - he was a very decent general, but behind his back stood a great geopolitical "genius" who, due to imperialist intentions, climbed into the territory of Korea in order to trade in the forest (his own was not enough for him) - Nicholas 2 Bloody ... Books read - even General Kuropatkin sometimes educated himself ...
                    1. Nickelium
                      Nickelium 11 November 2022 02: 08
                      -1
                      Decent general Yes, you can only look for such mediocrity. This man was a good supplier, but a terrible military leader. This is from the category of the Crimean Menshikov, Gorchakov, Rennekampf, Stessel. Understanding perfectly well all the mediocrity of Nikolashka, he did not have gifted commanders, except for Brusilov.
    3. UAZ 452
      UAZ 452 11 November 2022 07: 43
      0
      How so, how can you surrender the territory of Russia - the city of Kherson? And surrender the Crimea, Volgograd, etc. to the Armed Forces of Ukraine. will also be justified by an uncomfortable position?

      Well, how, in your opinion, to defend Volgograd, if because of the Volga its supply will be completely impossible? It was Stalingrad that could be successfully defended, there were no such problems with logistics - the geography is different.
  18. RoTTor
    RoTTor 10 November 2022 17: 57
    +1
    is this a lollipop to sweeten the surrender of Kherson?
    Compared horseradish with a finger
  19. Viktor Sergeev
    Viktor Sergeev 10 November 2022 18: 03
    +1
    Well, now you can start preparing for redeployment and retreat somewhere. They took the village, laid down soldiers, will we give it back like Kherson?
  20. Petr_Koldunov
    Petr_Koldunov 10 November 2022 18: 11
    -1
    Just don't fasten it very strongly ... so as not to waste a lot of time on removal when the General Staff orders to retreat in order to "level the line."
  21. Million
    Million 10 November 2022 18: 15
    0
    And tomorrow they will retreat on command or regroup, again on command.
  22. Sebostyuan
    Sebostyuan 10 November 2022 18: 18
    -3
    The departure from Kherson, which has been announced, but has not yet taken place, is a consequence of the debility plan, the beginning of the NWO.
    Even more moronic decision to hold a referendum there, knowing the situation.
    On the other hand, history must be remembered. Our troops there were in the situation of the Red Army near Kyiv at 41.

    Kherson - a city that I always considered Russian, became such legally and discussing its fate is a crime. As before the constitution and the peoples of the Russian Federation. HE MUST BE RELEASED BY THE RESULTS OF THE WAR. But first the enemy is destroyed, then the territories are occupied.

    PS. TsPSOshniki actively disperse the theme of betrayal of the authorities, Surovikin's incompetence, etc. Don't get fooled.
    1. Woodman
      Woodman 10 November 2022 22: 32
      0
      Quote from Sebostyuan
      Kherson - a city that I always considered Russian

      And Russian is not your native language at all, is it?
  23. fa2998
    fa2998 10 November 2022 18: 30
    +1
    Quote from: neworange88
    They took it? They did not enter Kherson. The city is ownerless.

    And who will stop them.? Half an hour on the UAZ. request
  24. Ratibor_A
    Ratibor_A 10 November 2022 19: 46
    +8
    Quote: Nickelium
    The time is right for us. And it has always been for us. Time plays for those who have more resources.

    Let's be frank, the USA and the EU have resources - the whole world, and we only have our country ... (and the oligarchs who sell our resources to the EU and the USA)
    1. topol717
      topol717 10 November 2022 20: 13
      -5
      Quote: Ratibor_A
      Let's be frank, the USA and the EU have resources - the whole world, and we only have our country ... (and the oligarchs who sell our resources to the EU and the USA)

      No, you are wrong. Resources are considered, Resources are needed here and now, and from the fact that there is conditional Titanium in Africa, but it cannot be mined and processed there. Everyone understands that next year, in Europe, it will be very hungry, because you can’t buy from Ukraine anymore, there was no one to sow corny there, And Russia may not sell it. The United States will certainly increase crops, but in the same way they will not be able to do it at times. So next year will be very difficult. Especially food.
  25. topol717
    topol717 10 November 2022 20: 09
    -2
    And why can't the landing force go to the rear? well, they landed 3 or 4 companies in the rear, and let them develop the offensive there. It is possible with IL-76 in the area of ​​Pavlovgrad or Pokrovsk, and let them attack in the rear.
    1. Nickelium
      Nickelium 10 November 2022 20: 48
      0
      Considering all our troubles with communications, this, IMHO, is a useless sending of people to death. Not enough hostel?
      Ours in the Second World War for 2 years constantly fell into boilers and only at 43 they established communication.
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  27. iouris
    iouris 10 November 2022 21: 29
    0
    Raise - remove. Take down - lift up. And where will the troops besieging Kherson go? What if Moscow?
  28. techno
    techno 10 November 2022 22: 21
    0
    Soon a regrouping in Pavlovka.
  29. TatarinSSSR
    TatarinSSSR 10 November 2022 22: 27
    -1
    The agreement plan is being implemented - Russia gives up Kherson, retains a land corridor to Crimea, moves the Armed Forces of Ukraine away from Donetsk by at least 100 km. Then he gives the Zaporizhzhya NPP to Ukraine in exchange for an end to mutual shelling of the territories and sits down for peace talks in order to get five years to prepare for a new war or a change of power in Russia to a pro-American one.
  30. PC
    PC 11 November 2022 01: 19
    -2
    I read the comments. Yeah! With rare exceptions, commentators are either great strategists and tacticians, or all-weakers, or tsipsota.
  31. sgr291158
    sgr291158 11 November 2022 06: 10
    0
    They took it, but it wouldn’t work out like with Kherson.