Captured Ukrainian soldier confirmed that the command of the Armed Forces of Ukraine hides the real numbers of losses

The Ukrainian command hides information about the losses, data on the dead is not transmitted so as not to pay compensation, which Zelensky swore under an oath. Usually all the dead are declared missing. Alexander Barlyan, a soldier of the 25th separate assault brigade of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, who was captured, told about this.

The dead servicemen of the Armed Forces of Ukraine are not specially collected and taken away from the battlefield, so as not to be officially registered according to the documents as those who died in battle. Basically, they are declared missing, and they can also be recorded as deserters. All this is done in order not to pay compensation to the family promised by Zelensky. And according to the new law, the family of the deceased should be paid 15 million hryvnias.

According to Barlyan, the brigade most likely treated him as a missing person, no compensation is paid in this category. And in the case of an official burial, money is not always paid. Moreover, even if compensation is paid, then not the promised 15 million, but two or three monthly salaries. And millions of payments are for officers sitting in headquarters where the shells do not reach. Kyiv simply does not have that kind of money to pay compensation, the losses are colossal.

And then it will not be an ordinary soldier, but a captain, a major, who was accidentally killed. Such adult uncles do not run around the fields with a machine gun in a swamp, they are sitting somewhere 50 kilometers away on the 22nd line of defense. The family of a simple soldier - hardly

- said the prisoner.

Earlier, Barlyan said that the Ukrainian Armed Forces' offensive in the Kharkov direction resulted in very large losses, which were hidden from the rank and file. In addition, the prisoner spoke about foreign mercenaries who use mobilized Ukrainian soldiers as a "human shield."

Comments

[Pereira]

They have no losses. They attribute all their losses to the Russians.

[Jean Baptiste]

Our president said that there is actually a civil war going on, which means that no matter which side has losses, they are still our losses. The failures in diplomacy over the past decades have led to the fact that we are not standing shoulder to shoulder with him, but against each other, we have to agree with their calculations, they are fair.

[Diana Ilyina]

We are not shoulder to shoulder with them, not because of failures in diplomacy, but because of their "Muscovite to Gilyak." They chose their own path, and now they are reaping what they have sown! So don't lie.

[Jean Baptiste]

Before "Masklyaki" there were decades of support for corrupt regimes, and the lack of work to show an example of their own development, the same corruption, nepotism, show-off and stratification of society into the very poor and the very rich, a model of government oriented not to the creation of a system, but tied to the individual. Any war is a failure of diplomacy. It was necessary to work in a timely manner with the individuals leading the marches, as "some civilized countries" did when the problem of Nazi criminals stood before them.

[Reindeer]

It was necessary to work in a timely manner with the individuals leading the processions, as "some civilized countries" did - just like that, that's why our soldiers pulled the Jews out of the crematoria. Why did you edit the message, "civilized Israel" sounded more powerful :)

[Jean Baptiste]

Hard times, responsible people may not give a passport))). But in general I am not a dissident, it's just that denying obvious mistakes leads to their repetition, and we need to be smarter to survive.

[Diana Ilyina]

This is capitalism, baby, and everything you listed is inherent in the whole world, and not just in Russia and Ukraine. You will not seriously talk about the absence of corruption in the FSA or Europe? Even China did not get rid of this despite the executions. About the non-removability of power and nepotism there, it is everywhere, and not only here. Why, even the USSR did not escape this.
So your arguments are off the charts!

[Jean Baptiste]

That's exactly it, baby, if you don't know how to play by the rules set at the table, don't sit down to play. Don't like the rules? - suggest your own, but before suggesting, you need to soberly assess whether you have enough weight for others to accept them. And you need to clearly understand - "a fight is inevitable" or you are being provoked to get involved.

[Alexy]

Absolutely right. When the US placed CIA agents as ambassadors to Ukraine, ours sent Chernomyrdin and Zurabov there into honorable exile... They played the accordion, scared people with gas cutoffs. Then they were surprised.

[Master 2030]

Diana is defeated. Jean Baptiste rules. Very smart said! In order to defeat the Roguly on the other side of the barricades, first get rid of him on this one. My respects to Jean

[bandabas]

I remember the 80s very well, when I was still in school. I come for the holidays to my grandparents, who moved from the North to a cooperative apartment in the city of Nizhyn, Ukrainian SSR - not that. I come to Prokhladny, KBR, to another grandmother - here I belong

[Reptiloid]

.....so as not to officially list the dead according to documents. ...

Rats will gnaw ..... Dills lie
The soldier became a deserter posthumously
And the mother will not cry at the grave
Reward for the soldiers ---- grass to sprout

[MBRSS]

not because of failures in diplomacy, but because of their "Muscovite to Gilyak".

because of the failures in the notorious "soft power" and blew the Nazification of the VNA. While the States did not sit idly by.

[ilya.muromczev2013]

The US spent (according to Nuland) 5 billion dollars to help "its own regime" (Yushchenko and the riffraff that followed him). We spent 3 billion rubles to help Yanukovych. No one wasted anything, and no one sat idly by: Russia simply has less money to support corrupt regimes, that's the whole answer...

[storm]

Actually, there is a civil war going on.

And the main reason for this is the mediocre foreign policy of the Kremlin, which managed to lose all allies even among the former republics of the USSR despite hundreds of billions of dollars of loans, humanitarian and military assistance ..
This money has actually been snatched from the citizens of Russia and so mediocrely spent that we have received a ring of enemies from friends and neutral neighbors.

[Zorov]

Quote: Pereira

They have no losses. They attribute all their losses to the Russians.

Well, we don’t see torchlight processions in Kyiv and other races about Gilyak .. The plan for de-NAZIFICATION of the outskirts has already been overfulfilled! Now the de-NATOfication of Ukraine has begun and it is more serious for all of us. And perhaps the third world war will break out. What to do?

[Pereira]

There are still some ghouls left. I watch chat roulette regularly. There is still a lot of work to do. As the referendum showed, 17% of the population of the Outskirts is subject to denazification.

[Zorov]

Quote: Pereira

There are still some ghouls left. I watch chat roulette regularly. There is still a lot of work to do. As the referendum showed, 17% of the population of the Outskirts is subject to denazification.

The most cunning ones remained, especially on the territory of Russia.
pretending to be "refugees"
And the boys are fighting mainly from the east .. That's what's scary!
And there are blocking detachments of Nazis and mercenaries behind their backs.
And they tie them up with blood, filming them
Who refuses relatives are brought and killed in front of everyone
It's scary what's going on

I watch chatroulette regularly.

Link please ?

[Pereira]

I won’t post mine, but I can recommend looking on Zen:
Worthy + Uncle Slava + Dobrynya Nikitich + Vova Zelvava.
So what's the power, brother? That's for intellectuals. Each one has their own gimmick. The former often just troll, while the latter subtly mocks. Especially if CIPSO is encountered.
School of Excellence for CIPSO.

[Normann]

And perhaps the third world war will unleash

So she already goes.

[MBRSS]

The outskirts deNAZIFICATION plan has already been overfulfilled!

Yeah, now it remains to announce the plan of "derusophobization". Every six months - a new plan!

[AAK]

Both high commands act in the same way, they hide the numbers of their own losses and exaggerate the losses of the enemy ... And it would be enough to report ... "as of 6.11.2022/XNUMX/XNUMX, ... servicemen of the RF Armed Forces and ... servicemen of the LDNR were killed, wounded ... and ..., for the period from the beginning of the NWO, contracts were terminated ahead of schedule ... military personnel, were taken prisoner ..., are reported missing .... And that's all, and no speculation and speculation ...

[Postcode]

Accurate data on any type of loss has always been, is and will be information constituting military and state secrets. At a minimum, they are not subject to disclosure until the end of hostilities.

[NOMADE]

And before, only for the treatment of children collected

[rotmistr60]

under the new law, the family of the deceased must be paid 15 million hryvnias.

They must, they must, but where can they get so much money when there is not enough money for weapons. So, according to the documents, the number of missing people and deserters is growing. Mercenaries in the networks also complain that they fool with the promised payments and fool around big.

[dmi.pris1]

What's the joke? The same thing for the second time in a few days. From Telegram to here, from the site to Telegram...

[Zorov]

Quote: dmi.pris

What's the joke? The same thing for the second time in a few days. From Telegram to here, from the site to Telegram...

Well, an attempt to calm down, I think .. In general, everything is very serious in the world, and especially for Russia
We kill each other and the losses are huge to the joy of those who started it all. And weapons and funding flow in and sweaty hands rub from profits and joy.
US elections will be bloody in Ukraine ..

[Dartanian]

So what if they hide it?!? What do we care about that, when the topic of how many they killed starts, we remember how our media relished 1000 a day, etc. As a result, we fled from Kharkov, abandoning weapons and ammunition. What the hell do we care about the opinion of some captured Ukrainian?!?

[Colombian_cocaine]

https://vk.com/video-128602810_456240971

About Hoh lopoter)

[Beetle1991]

Everyone has losses. And not small ones.

And to believe the public testimony of the prisoners is such a thing, well, he could have confessed to the assassination of John F. Kennedy and that he sank the titanic.
On camera in Ukrainian captivity, Russian soldiers also admit a lot of things.
You shouldn't believe everything.
And I do not blame the prisoners (from all sides) for the fact that out of fear they begin to slander.
I'm on the "sofa", and they are there, but they also want to live

It is necessary to separate propaganda from normal information.

[ZIF122]

Well, actually, when there is a war, neither side will show real losses!

[Ivan Ivanov]

With the stories of prisoners you need to be careful. We already fell for their "unwilling to fight cooks"

[Ghost1]

Yes, I don’t understand why seriously listen to the prisoners, for all the time they have already said so much, the enemy is very cunning and I think that everything is bad with them, it’s banal in order to save their own skin and pretend that they were forced to fight, and behind the detachments are standing. I don’t perceive the stories of the prisoners at all, there are many factors to say anything.
And that they hide losses, well, this is a common thing from all sides.

[Mint Gingerbread]

I think the losses of the Armed Forces of Ukraine are like the first three Chechen ones, the Russian Federation has a little more than the second Chechen one.

[Viktor Sergeev]

Why do it somehow? The salary is coming, everyone is alive, the commander is in chocolate, everyone is happy.

[Ros 56]

And to hell with them, what do we care about this. They supported Bandera, so get it and sign it.

[ximkim]

A shell ahead of propaganda. Pointing a finger at the enemy's losses is a common and necessary thing, plus you have to say something, since the rear is waiting for the front (now there are events from the front). But! The one who uses propaganda to distort and manipulate, and not facts and their confirmation. He will have problems.

[cniza]

All this is done in order not to pay compensation to the family promised by Zelensky. And according to the new law, the family of the deceased should be paid 15 million hryvnias.

You can promise anything ... war is a very dirty business, but the Nazis must be finished off ...

[Rage66]

He and I are not standing shoulder to shoulder

December 2013... There was no Crimea or Donbas yet, and they were already jumping on the Maidan and yelling: "Moskalyaku to Gilyak..." That's why we don't stand "shoulder to shoulder"

[iz odessy]

strange, if they didn’t hide it, both sides do it, it’s quite clear why

[Vladimir M]

Quote: Diana Ilyina

We are not shoulder to shoulder with them, not because of failures in diplomacy, but because of their "Muscovite to Gilyak." They chose their own path, and now they are reaping what they have sown! So don't lie.

For the sake of justice, the citizen Medvedchuk, who was exchanged for mercenaries, also had a hand in "moskalak for gilyak". VVP himself said that Medvedchuk was a nationalist. And all this comes precisely from our vague policy. After 8 months of NWO (strange military operation) there are no clear our goals in Ukraine.

[shinobi]

I have one single desire, so that all this would be crushed by our victory before my son turns 18! Here I am such a skin and a cynical bastard. I myself am ready even now, but not a son. But unnecessary. Age.

[Yura]

Quote: shinobi

I have one single desire, so that all this would be crushed by our victory before my son turns 18! Here I am such a skin and a cynical bastard. I myself am ready even now, but not a son. But unnecessary. Age.

This is the desire of all fathers, and it cannot be otherwise if a father is a father, just prepare him for the fact that he may have to participate in this, and in order to celebrate the victory alive, he must be able to do everything that a soldier needs right now and preferably perfectly.

[Postcode]

18 years old, he is not needed there, he is of no value to the army in the database zone. But when the urgent service is served, that is, it will become 19, then, you are welcome))))).

[Ulan.1812]

And what did he say that was new?
Only this meat they have full.
Need to mobilize another million.
The mattress toppers do not feel sorry for the ukroshumers.

[Fangaro]

Well, there is nothing surprising in the fact that losses are always underestimated.
From the point of view of those who voice this to civilians (or the population), the more of them we killed, the less of ours died. Tradition. As for me, there is no benefit in this, but no one offered me the mouthpiece of victories.
From the point of view of the state and the budget, the smaller the payments, the better. And it no longer depends on ministers and financiers. Individuals are appointed to positions. Whether bad or good ... It is not as essential as the fact that people in office must follow the rules. Where to read these rules, how to interpret them, who is the author of these rules?
Don't know. But he spoke out. It got a little easier.
If you deserve negative for such a statement - minus.

[storm]

During the war, hiding and downplaying your losses is a common practice...
As if the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation is giving us real losses of the dead, wounded, sick, crippled ....

[AleksT]

The prisoner will say everything that is required of him.

[Mitia68]

Their losses are certainly enormous. Nothing less than 100k.

For comparison, all the losses of the USSR in Afghanistan over 10 years is 26k.
All US losses in 8 years of the Vietnam War are 59k.
US losses over 20 years in Afghanistan 3k.

[Petr_Koldunov]

Yeah ... if they really have a loss of about 200 people, then half a million dollars for each ... damn it, that's 000 billion dollars! Naturally, they don’t even have that kind of money, and no one will give them money to pay their families. States and the EU give money only for the war!

[rocket757]

Captured Ukrainian soldier confirmed that the command of the Armed Forces of Ukraine hides the real numbers of losses

It is clear that the land of Ukraine will become quite empty.
Who will be worse/better?

[uav80]

Only officially the Armed Forces of Ukraine recognized the losses of officers from 22/02/2022:
Junior Lieutenant - 77
Lieutenant - 271
Senior Lieutenant - 419
Captain - 247
Major - 170
Lt. Col. - 112
Colonel - 63

And this is only the Armed Forces of Ukraine, without taking into account the border guards, the Navy, the Air Force, the national battalions, the terrorist battalions, the SBU and other trash ...

[fa2998]

"The command of the Armed Forces of Ukraine hides the losses" - such a stupid news! The command of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation also hides losses, they classified it.

[Dkuznecov]

the military confirmed that the command of the Armed Forces of Ukraine hides the real numbers of losses

I am always for the truth.
And the hint is familiar - "You don't have sausages in stores.
- but you have blacks lynched.

It turns out that the Armed Forces of Ukraine and the Ministry of Defense are one gang, right?

In the toilet, how much fragrance do not pshika,
it will only turn out .. the smell of this with the aroma of raspberries,
clearly understandable origin.