Captured Ukrainian soldier confirmed that the command of the Armed Forces of Ukraine hides the real numbers of losses

The Ukrainian command hides information about the losses, data on the dead is not transmitted so as not to pay compensation, which Zelensky swore under an oath. Usually all the dead are declared missing. Alexander Barlyan, a soldier of the 25th separate assault brigade of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, who was captured, told about this.

The dead servicemen of the Armed Forces of Ukraine are not specially collected and taken away from the battlefield, so as not to be officially registered according to the documents as those who died in battle. Basically, they are declared missing, and they can also be recorded as deserters. All this is done in order not to pay compensation to the family promised by Zelensky. And according to the new law, the family of the deceased should be paid 15 million hryvnias.

According to Barlyan, the brigade most likely treated him as a missing person, no compensation is paid in this category. And in the case of an official burial, money is not always paid. Moreover, even if compensation is paid, then not the promised 15 million, but two or three monthly salaries. And millions of payments are for officers sitting in headquarters where the shells do not reach. Kyiv simply does not have that kind of money to pay compensation, the losses are colossal.

And then it will not be an ordinary soldier, but a captain, a major, who was accidentally killed. Such adult uncles do not run around the fields with a machine gun in a swamp, they are sitting somewhere 50 kilometers away on the 22nd line of defense. The family of a simple soldier - hardly

- said the prisoner.

Earlier, Barlyan said that the offensive of the Armed Forces of Ukraine in the Kharkov direction turned out to be very heavy losses, which were hidden from the rank and file. In addition, the prisoner spoke about foreign mercenaries who use mobilized Vushniks as a "human shield".

Comments

[Pereira]

They have no losses. They attribute all their losses to the Russians.

[Jean Baptiste]

Our president said that in fact there is a civil war, which means that no matter which side there are losses, they are still our losses. Failures in diplomacy over the past decades have led to the fact that we are not standing shoulder to shoulder, but against each other, we have to agree with their charges, they are fair.

[Diana Ilyina]

We are not shoulder to shoulder with them, not because of failures in diplomacy, but because of their "Muscovite to Gilyak." They chose their own path, and now they are reaping what they have sown! So don't lie.

[Jean Baptiste]

Before the "mascalaki" there were decades of support for corrupt regimes, and the lack of work to set an example of one's own development, the same corruption, nepotism, window dressing and the stratification of society into the very poor and the very rich, the model of government was not focused on creating a system, but tied to the individual . Any war is a failure of diplomacy. It was necessary to work in a timely manner with the individuals leading the processions, as "some civilized countries" did when they faced the problem of Nazi criminals.

[Reindeer]

It was necessary to work in a timely manner with the individuals leading the processions, as "some civilized countries" did - just like that, that's why our soldiers pulled the Jews out of the crematoria. Why did you edit the message, "civilized Israel" sounded more powerful :)

[Jean Baptiste]

Difficult times, responsible people may not give a passport))). In general, I am not a dissident, simply denying obvious mistakes leads to their repetition, and we need to be smarter in order to survive.

[Diana Ilyina]

This is capitalism, baby, and everything you listed is inherent in the whole world, and not just in Russia and Ukraine. You will not seriously talk about the absence of corruption in the FSA or Europe? Even China did not get rid of this despite the executions. About the non-removability of power and nepotism there, it is everywhere, and not only here. Why, even the USSR did not escape this.
So your arguments are off the charts!

[Jean Baptiste]

That's it baby, if you don't know how to play by the rules set at the table, don't sit down to play. don't like the rules? - offer your own, but before you offer, you need to soberly assess whether you have enough weight to be accepted by others. And you need to clearly understand - "a fight is inevitable" or you are being provoked in order to be drawn into it.

[Alexy]

Absolutely right. When the United States put CIA intelligence officers as ambassadors to Ukraine, ours sent Chernomyrdin and Zurabov to honorable exile there ... They played the harmonica, frightened the people with gas cuts. Then they were surprised.

[Master 2030]

Diana is defeated. Jean Baptiste rules. Very smart said! In order to defeat the Roguly on the other side of the barricades, first get rid of him on this one. My respects to Jean

[bandabas]

I remember the 80s very well, when I was still in school. I come on vacation to my grandparents, who moved from the North to a cooperative apartment in the city of Nizhyn, Ukrainian SSR, not that. I come to Cool KBR to another grandmother - here I belong

[Reptiloid]

..... so as not to officially carry out the dead according to the documents. ...

Rats will gnaw ..... Dills lie
Became a deserter posthumously a soldier
And the mother on the grave will not cry
Reward for the soldiers ---- grass to sprout

[MBRSS]

not because of failures in diplomacy, but because of their "Muscovite to Gilyak".

because of the failures in the notorious "soft power" and blew the Nazification of the VNA. While the States did not sit idly by.

[ilya.muromczev2013]

The United States spent (according to Nuland) $5 billion to help "their regime" (Yushchenko and the chantrap that followed him). We spent 3 billion rubles to help Yanukovych. No one blew anything, and did not sit idly by: Russia simply has less money to support corrupt regimes, that's the whole answer ...

[storm]

Actually, there is a civil war going on.

And the main reason for this is the mediocre foreign policy of the Kremlin, which managed to lose all allies even among the former republics of the USSR despite hundreds of billions of dollars of loans, humanitarian and military assistance ..
This money has actually been snatched from the citizens of Russia and so mediocrely spent that we have received a ring of enemies from friends and neutral neighbors.

[Zorov]

Quote: Pereira

They have no losses. They attribute all their losses to the Russians.

Well, we don’t see torchlight processions in Kyiv and other races about Gilyak .. The outskirts deNAZIFICATION plan has already been overfulfilled! Now the deNATOfication of Ukraine has begun and is already more serious for all of us. And perhaps the third world war will unleash .. What to do?

[Pereira]

There are still ghouls left. I watch chatroulette regularly. Still work and work. As the referendum showed, 17% of the population of the outskirts are subject to denazification.

[Zorov]

Quote: Pereira

There are still ghouls left. I watch chatroulette regularly. Still work and work. As the referendum showed, 17% of the population of the outskirts are subject to denazification.

The most cunning remained on the territory of Russia especially.
pretending to be "refugees"
And the boys are fighting mainly from the east .. That's what's scary!
And detachments behind the backs are from the Nazis and mercenaries
And they tie them up with blood, filming them
Who refuses relatives are brought and killed in front of everyone
It's scary what's going on

I watch chatroulette regularly.

Link please ?

[Pereira]

I don’t post mine, but I can recommend searching on Zen:
Worthy + Uncle Slava + Dobrynya Nikitich + Vova Zelvova.
Well, what is the strength, brother? This is for the intellectuals. Each soy chip. The former often just troll, and the latter subtly scoffs. Especially if TsIPSO comes across.
School of Excellence for CIPSO.

[Normann]

And perhaps the third world war will unleash

So she already goes.

[MBRSS]

The outskirts deNAZIFICATION plan has already been overfulfilled!

Yeah, now it remains to announce the plan of "derusophobization". Every six months - a new plan!

[AAK]

Both high commands act in the same way, they hide the numbers of their own losses and exaggerate the losses of the enemy ... And it would be enough to report ... "as of 6.11.2022/XNUMX/XNUMX, ... servicemen of the RF Armed Forces and ... servicemen of the LDNR were killed, wounded ... and ..., for the period from the beginning of the NWO, contracts were terminated ahead of schedule ... military personnel, were taken prisoner ..., are reported missing .... And that's all, and no speculation and speculation ...

[Postcode]

Accurate data on any type of loss has always been, is and will be information constituting military and state secrets. At a minimum, they are not subject to disclosure until the end of hostilities.

[NOMADE]

And before, only for the treatment of children collected

[rotmistr60]

under the new law, the family of the deceased must be paid 15 million hryvnias.

They must, they must, but where can they get so much money when there is not enough money for weapons. So, according to the documents, the number of missing people and deserters is growing. Mercenaries in the networks also complain that they fool with the promised payments and fool around big.

[dmi.pris1]

What a joke? For the second time in a few days, the same thing. From the VO cart here, from the site to the cart ...

[Zorov]

Quote: dmi.pris

What a joke? For the second time in a few days, the same thing. From the VO cart here, from the site to the cart ...

Well, an attempt to calm down, I think .. In general, everything is very serious in the world, and especially for Russia
We kill each other and the losses are huge to the joy of those who started it all. And weapons and funding flow in and sweaty hands rub from profits and joy.
US elections will be bloody in Ukraine ..

[Dartanian]

So what are they hiding? What do we care about this, in general, when the topic begins, how many of them were killed, I remember how in our media they savored 1000 a day, etc. As a result, we scrambled from near Kharkov, throwing weapons and ammunition. What the hell is the opinion of some crest of a prisoner to us?!?

[Colombian_cocaine]

https://vk.com/video-128602810_456240971

About Hoh lopoter)

[Beetle1991]

Everyone has losses. And not small ones.

And to believe the public testimony of the prisoners is such a thing, well, he could have confessed to the assassination of John F. Kennedy and that he sank the titanic.
On camera in Ukrainian captivity, Russian soldiers also admit a lot of things.
You shouldn't believe everything.
And I do not blame the prisoners (from all sides) for the fact that out of fear they begin to slander.
I'm on the "sofa", and they are there, but they also want to live

It is necessary to separate propaganda from normal information.

[ZIF122]

Well, actually, when there is a war, neither side will show real losses!

[Ivan Ivanov]

With the stories of prisoners you need to be careful. We already fell for their "unwilling to fight cooks"

[Ghost1]

Yes, I don’t understand why seriously listen to the prisoners, for all the time they have already said so much, the enemy is very cunning and I think that everything is bad with them, it’s banal in order to save their own skin and pretend that they were forced to fight, and behind the detachments are standing. I don’t perceive the stories of the prisoners at all, there are many factors to say anything.
And that they hide losses, well, this is a common thing from all sides.

[Mint Gingerbread]

I think the losses of the Armed Forces of Ukraine are like the first three Chechen ones, the Russian Federation has a little more than the second Chechen one.

[Viktor Sergeev]

Why do it somehow? The salary is coming, everyone is alive, the commander is in chocolate, everyone is happy.

[Ros 56]

And to hell with them, what do we care about this. They supported Bandera, so get it and sign it.

[ximkim]

The shell is ahead of propaganda. Pointing a finger at enemy losses is a common and necessary thing, plus you need to say something, since the rear is waiting for the front (now there are events from the front). But! One who uses propaganda to distort and manipulate, not facts and their confirmation. He will have problems.

[cniza]

All this is done in order not to pay compensation to the family promised by Zelensky. And according to the new law, the family of the deceased should be paid 15 million hryvnias.

You can promise anything ... war is a very dirty business, but the Nazis must be finished off ...

[Rage66]

He and I are not standing shoulder to shoulder

December 2013... There was no Crimea or Donbas yet, and they were already jumping on the Maidan and yelling: "Moskalyaku to Gilyak..." That's why we don't stand "shoulder to shoulder"

[iz odessy]

strange, if they didn’t hide it, both sides do it, it’s quite clear why

[Vladimir M]

Quote: Diana Ilyina

We are not shoulder to shoulder with them, not because of failures in diplomacy, but because of their "Muscovite to Gilyak." They chose their own path, and now they are reaping what they have sown! So don't lie.

For the sake of justice, the citizen Medvedchuk, who was exchanged for mercenaries, also had a hand in "moskalak for gilyak". VVP himself said that Medvedchuk was a nationalist. And all this comes precisely from our vague policy. After 8 months of NWO (strange military operation) there are no clear our goals in Ukraine.

[shinobi]

I have one single desire, so that all this would be crushed by our victory before my son turns 18! Here I am such a skin and a cynical bastard. I myself am ready even now, but not a son. But unnecessary. Age.

[Yura]

Quote: shinobi

I have one single desire, so that all this would be crushed by our victory before my son turns 18! Here I am such a skin and a cynical bastard. I myself am ready even now, but not a son. But unnecessary. Age.

This is the desire of all fathers, and if a father is a father, it cannot be otherwise, just prepare him for the fact that he may have to participate in this, and in order to celebrate the victory alive, he must be able to do everything that a soldier needs right now and desirable in perfection.

[Postcode]

18 years old, he is not needed there, he is of no value to the army in the database zone. But when the urgent service is served, that is, it will become 19, then, you are welcome))))).

[Ulan.1812]

And what did he say that was new?
Only this meat they have full.
Need to mobilize another million.
The mattress toppers do not feel sorry for the ukroshumers.

[Fangaro]

Well, there is nothing surprising in the fact that losses are always underestimated.
From the point of view of those who voice this to civilians (or the population), the more of them we killed, the less of ours died. Tradition. As for me, there is no benefit in this, but no one offered me the mouthpiece of victories.
From the point of view of the state and the budget, the smaller the payments, the better. And it no longer depends on ministers and financiers. Individuals are appointed to positions. Whether bad or good ... It is not as essential as the fact that people in office must follow the rules. Where to read these rules, how to interpret them, who is the author of these rules?
Don't know. But he spoke out. It got a little easier.
If you deserve negative for such a statement - minus.

[storm]

During the war, hiding and downplaying your losses is a common practice...
As if the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation is giving us real losses of the dead, wounded, sick, crippled ....

[AleksT]

The prisoner will say everything that is required of him.

[Mitia68]

Their losses are certainly enormous. Nothing less than 100k.

For comparison, all the losses of the USSR in Afghanistan over 10 years is 26k.
All US losses in 8 years of the Vietnam War are 59k.
US losses over 20 years in Afghanistan 3k.

[Petr_Koldunov]

Yeah ... if they really have a loss of about 200 people, then half a million dollars for each ... damn it, that's 000 billion dollars! Naturally, they don’t even have that kind of money, and no one will give them money to pay their families. States and the EU give money only for the war!

[rocket757]

Captured Ukrainian soldier confirmed that the command of the Armed Forces of Ukraine hides the real numbers of losses

. It is clear that the land of Ukraine will become empty, pretty much.
Who will be worse/better?

[uav80]

Only officially the Armed Forces of Ukraine recognized the losses of officers from 22/02/2022:
Junior Lieutenant - 77
Lieutenant - 271
Senior Lieutenant - 419
Captain - 247
Major - 170
Lt. Col. - 112
Colonel - 63

And this is only the Armed Forces of Ukraine, without taking into account the border guards, the Navy, the Air Force, the national battalions, the terrorist battalions, the SBU and other trash ...

[fa2998]

"The command of the Armed Forces of Ukraine hides the losses" - such a stupid news! The command of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation also hides losses, they classified it.

[Dkuznecov]

the military confirmed that the command of the Armed Forces of Ukraine hides the real numbers of losses

I am always for the truth.
And the hint is familiar - "You don't have sausages in stores.
- but you have blacks lynched.

It turns out that the Armed Forces of Ukraine and the Moscow Region are one gang-watering can, right?

In the toilet, how much fragrance do not pshika,
it will only turn out .. the smell of this with the aroma of raspberries,
clearly understandable origin.