D. M. Karbyshev - a hero not broken by German concentration camps

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Today, very few people from the 20 generation, both young and old, will be able to say something intelligible about the legendary Soviet hero, Dmitry Mikhailovich Karbyshev. His name is widely known, mainly because of the large number of city streets in the post-Soviet space named for him, rarely found institutions named after him (for example, schools), but these are just the remaining fragments of that legend about a man whose fate was known once every pioneer in every corner of the USSR ...

Dmitry Karbyshev was born on October 26 1880 of the year in Omsk in the family of a military official. At a young age, Dmitry was left without a father, however, he decided to follow in his footsteps and in 1898, he graduated from the Siberian Cadet Corps, and two years later - the St. Petersburg Nikolaev Military Engineering School. After graduating from college, Karbyshev with the rank of second lieutenant is assigned to the service by the company commander in the 1 th East Siberian Sapadny battalion, which was located in Manchuria.

Dmitry Karbyshev participated in the Russian-Japanese war: as part of his battalion, he strengthened his position, was engaged in building bridges and installing communications equipment. He showed himself to be a brave officer in the battles of Mukden, and it is not surprising that during the two years of this war Karbyshev had five orders and three medals.

In 1906, Dmitry Karbyshev was fired from the army to the reserve: according to documented sources, for campaigning at that troubled revolutionary time among the soldiers. A year later, however, Karbyshev was again called up to serve as the company commander of the sapper battalion: his knowledge and experience came in handy when rebuilding the fortifications in Vladivostok.

After graduating from the Nikolaev Military Engineering Academy with honors in 1911, Dmitry Mikhailovich was assigned to Brest-Litovsk, where he takes part in the construction of the forts of the Brest-Litovsk fortress.

Karbyshev meets the First World War as part of the 8 Army General A. A. Brusilov, who fought in the Carpathians. In 1915, Karbyshev was one of the most actively attacking the fortress of Przemysl, he was wounded in the fights in fights. For the heroism shown in these battles, Karbyshev receives the Order of St. Anne with swords and is promoted to lieutenant colonel.

Dmitry Karbyshev joined the Red Guard in December 1917 of the year, from next year he is already in the Red Army. During the Civil War, Karbyshev helped strengthen military positions throughout the country - from Ukraine to Siberia. From 1920, Dmitry Mikhailovich was the engineering chief of the 5 Army of the Eastern Front, and a little later he was appointed Assistant Chief of Engineers of the Southern Front.

After the Civil War, Karbyshev taught at the Frunze Military Academy, since 1934 he has been working as a teacher at the General Staff Academy of the Military. Among the students of the Academy Karbyshev was popular. This is what General of the Army Shtemenko remembers about him: “... a favorite saying of sappers went from him:“ One sapper, one ax, one day, one stump ”. True, it was altered by wits, in Carbyshevsk it sounded like this: "One battalion, one hour, one kilometer, one ton, one row."

In 1940, Karbyshev was promoted to the rank of lieutenant-general of engineering troops, and in 1941, he was awarded the degree of Doctor of Military Sciences (he is the author of more than 100 scientific papers on military engineering, military stories). His theoretical manuals on engineering support during combat operations and the tactics of the engineering troops were considered fundamental materials in training the commanders of the Red Army before the Great Patriotic War.

Dmitry Karbyshev participated in the Soviet-Finnish war of 1939-1940, developed recommendations for the engineering support of the Mannerheim line breakthrough.

The beginning of the Great Patriotic War found Karbyshev in the headquarters of the 3-th army of the city of Grodno. Dmitry Mikhailovich is offered to provide transportation and personal security to return to Moscow, however, he refuses, preferring to retreat along with the Red Army units. Once in the environment and trying to get out of it, Karbyshev was seriously wounded in a fierce battle (near the Dnieper, in the Mogilev region), and in an unconscious state captured by the Germans.

From this moment begins the three-year history of the Karbyshevsky captivity, his wanderings in the Nazi camps.

In Hitler's Germany, Karbyshev was well known: already in 1940, year IV, the RSHA Administration of the Imperial Security Directorate opened a special file on it. The dossier was specially marked and passed under the “IV D 3-a” accounting category, which meant, besides monitoring the activity, to apply a special appeal in the event of capture in captivity.

He began his camp "way" in the Polish city of Ostrov-Mazowiecki, where he was sent to a distribution camp. Soon Karbysheva sent to the camp of the Polish town of Zamost, Dmitry Mikhailovich settled in the barracks number XXUMX (later called the general's). The Germans reckon on the fact that after the hardships of camp life, Karbyshev agreed to cooperate with them, did not justify himself, and in the spring of 11, Karbyshev was transferred to the officer concentration camp of the city of Hammelburg (Bavaria). This camp, which consisted solely of a contingent of Soviet prisoner officers and generals, was special - the task of his leadership was to persuade prisoners to cooperate with Nazi Germany by any means. That is why in its atmosphere certain norms of legality and humane treatment were observed. However, these methods did not work on Dmitry Karbyshev, his motto was born here: “There is no greater victory than victory over oneself! The main thing is not to fall on your knees before the enemy. ”

Since 1943, the “preventive work” with Karbyshev has been led by Pelit, a former officer of the tsarist Russian army (it is noteworthy that this Pelit once served together with Dmitry Mikhailovich in Brest). Colonel Pelit was warned that the Russian military engineer was of particular interest to Germany. Accordingly, every effort should be made to bring him to the side of the Nazis.

Thin psychologist Pelit took up the matter with the foundation: playing the role of an experienced warrior, far from politics, painted Karbyshev all the advantages of switching to the German side (fantastic in essence). Dmitry Mikhailovich, however, immediately spotted Pelit's cunning and stood his ground: I don’t betray my homeland.
The Gestapo Command decides to use a slightly different tactic. Dmitry Karbyshev is taken to Berlin, where he is organized a meeting with Heinz Raubenheimer, a famous German professor and connoisseur of fortification engineering. In exchange for cooperation, he offers Karbyshev the conditions for working and living in Germany, which would make him a practically free man. Dmitry Mikhailovich’s response was exhaustive: “My beliefs do not fall out with the teeth from the lack of vitamins in the camp diet. I am a soldier and remain faithful to my duty. And he forbids me to work for the country that is in a state of war with my homeland. ”

After such a firm refusal, tactics against the Soviet prisoner of war again change - Karbyshev is sent to Flossenbürg concentration camp, a camp famous for its hard labor and truly inhuman conditions towards prisoners. Dmitry Karbyshev’s six-month stay in Flossenbürg’s hell ended with his transfer to the Nuremberg Gestapo prison. After which the camps where Karbysheva is identified began to turn into a gloomy merry-go-round. Auschwitz, Sachsenhausen, Mauthausen - these truly nightmarish death camps, through which Karbyshev had to go, and in which, despite the inhuman conditions of existence, he remained a strong-willed and inflexible person until his last days.

Dmitry Mikhailovich Karbyshev died in the Austrian concentration camp Mauthausen: he froze, being doused with water in the cold ... He died heroically and martyrly, without betraying his Soviet homeland.

The details of his death became known from the words of the Canadian Army Major Seddon De Saint-Clair, who also passed Mauthausen. It was one of the first reliable information about the life of Karbyshev in captivity, because he was then considered missing in the USSR at the very beginning of the war.
In 1946, Dmitry Karbyshev was posthumously awarded the title Hero of the Soviet Union. And 28 February 1948 was opened a monument and a memorial plaque on the site of the former concentration camp of Mauthausen, where Lieutenant General Karbyshev was savagely tortured.
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  1. I-16M
    +18
    29 October 2012 08: 10
    Thank you for the article. Do not forget national heroes!
    1. +12
      29 October 2012 08: 42
      And we did not forget them. It is important that today's youth know and remember them.
      1. +3
        29 October 2012 10: 48
        The article is definitely necessary and useful! But in this context, I wonder how many schoolchildren and students visit this site and how often? To know the youth, you need to make a movie! And not only as a "war movie", but as a heroic epic, with "pomp" and good advertising! To specifically interest young people!
        1. I-16M
          0
          29 October 2012 12: 41
          Out of curiosity, I asked five people (age 20-24) when the Great Patriotic War began and ended. Only one answered exactly. Like this. sad And the guys are not stupid, 11 classes + technical school.
          1. 0
            29 October 2012 13: 44
            Quote: I-16M
            And the guys are not stupid, 11 classes + technical school.

            Once I talked on historical topics with a 5th year student of the institute, specialty - "finance and credit". So he is sure that:
            1. The interim government came to power in 1905, and in 1917 the Bolsheviks made a coup and came to power.
            2. World War 2 began because of the assassination of "some Austrian prince."
            3. To the question, "How is that?" answered, - And what for do I need a story? Definitely not needed for work ..

            And you say "technical school ..."
            1. Eric
              0
              29 October 2012 17: 52
              I'm not sure about the temporary one! :)
              But the 2nd World War began because the Germans carried out a diversion on their radio. Under the guise of Polish soldiers attacked her.
              Due to the assassination of the Archduke of Austria, the First World War began.

              I have a bad memory for dates on names and faces. And in general, a severe craniocerebral (as a child fell from the 7th floor). Behind college specials. Interior Design. And now in winter special diploma. state and mun. control.
        2. Eric
          +1
          29 October 2012 17: 48
          For example, my person is a student. I visit the site regularly.
        3. EropMyxoMop
          +2
          29 October 2012 21: 14
          It is now customary to shoot films about other characters, remember Bezrukov as General Krasnov. The same officer as Karbyshev, but during the war he voluntarily went into the service of the Nazis and now "deserved" popular actors play a "hero." of information policy Dmitry Mikhailovich is not in a `` trend. '' I remember in my school library in my childhood a very popular book about Karbyshev `` When Fortresses Do Not Surrender. '' Has it been reprinted at least once since the collapse of the USSR?
          1. vyatom
            +1
            14 December 2012 15: 25
            I did not believe in "Admiral" either Khabensky or Bezrukov. They are enemies of the Russian people (Kolchak and others like him)
        4. Antibrim
          0
          30 October 2012 23: 28
          not all youth are stupid, there are those who respect heroes! And he is just a hero, a man with an iron will, did not betray either his ideals or himself!
    2. +1
      29 October 2012 15: 13
      A truly true national hero is the Tatar-Kryashen, the Great Son of RUSSIA.
  2. +7
    29 October 2012 08: 37
    a country where such soldiers cannot be defeated ...
  3. +3
    29 October 2012 08: 48
    The article is excellent, we all need to remember people like Dmitry Mikhailovich Karbyshev, thanks to people like him and many others, our people won this terrible war ...
  4. +9
    29 October 2012 09: 02
    Since 1943, the “preventive work” with Karbyshev is conducted by a former officer of the tsarist Russian army Pelit
    ----
    and just a few days ago, in the comments under the article about the whites who planned the spread of biological infection, one of the commentators assured that NOBODY cooperated with the Nazis ... here are the facts. It is clear that general positions in the Wehrmacht were not occupied, but translators, at headquarters or when "working" with prisoners.

    in childhood, I had a brand with an image of Karbyshev and a Star of a Hero of the Soviet Union. that’s how I first found out about him. strong and brave man. ETERNAL MEMORY.
  5. +5
    29 October 2012 09: 27
    You need to educate your children on the example of the stamina and courage of such people!
  6. Taratut
    -5
    29 October 2012 10: 19
    The general is well done, but he did not die because he was doused with water in the cold.
    1. +1
      29 October 2012 10: 21
      And can you learn from what?
      1. Taratut
        -3
        29 October 2012 10: 46
        Here is the evidence in detail.
        He died of a blow with a club on the head.

        http://newsreaders.ru/showthread.php?t=905
        1. +1
          30 October 2012 00: 50
          Thanks for the link. As far as I understand, a blow with a truncheon is also one of the versions. It doesn't matter how he died. His daughter said correctly, "It is important how he lived." And yet, in my opinion, the article ends correctly under your link: "... hardly anyone would dare to assert that the Generalissimo's decision to perpetuate his memory was unfounded ...."
  7. Samovar
    +3
    29 October 2012 10: 31
    Thank you for the article! +
    I learned a lot about General Karbyshev. Here on such examples, you need to educate the younger generation of patriotism. After all, patriotism means not only love for the motherland, but also the willingness to sacrifice life for her at any time.
    1. Taratut
      -5
      29 October 2012 11: 14
      It is necessary to educate on the truth.
      There is such a concept - wartime propaganda. She DON'T have to be truthful. Her goal is to present her soldiers as noble heroes (which is not always true), and strangers as monsters (which is also not always true). An example is a memo to a German soldier "You have no heart and nerves, they are not needed in a war. Destroy pity and compassion in yourself - kill every Russian, Soviet, do not stop, if an old man or a woman, a girl or a boy is in front of you - kill, this is you save yourself from death, secure the future of your family and become famous forever. "
      http://vif2ne.ru/nvk/forum/arhprint/949568
      This is fake. But in war, all means are good.
      But to educate in a lie - should not be. Once caught in a lie - there will be no faith.
      1. Samovar
        +2
        29 October 2012 11: 31
        Quote: Taratut
        But to educate in a lie - should not be.

        And what do you think is false in the article? That the general died without betraying the homeland?
      2. 0
        29 October 2012 13: 36
        Quote: Taratut
        An example is a memo to a German soldier


        And also the directives of the German command in 1941:
        Brauchitsch, in his directives issued on July 25, convinced the ground forces that "the Russian has long been accustomed to the harsh and ruthless interference of authority." Therefore, any threat from the enemy civilian population should be "ruthlessly suppressed" using weapons until the enemy is completely destroyed, and any condescension and gentleness are manifestations of weakness. He ordered without hesitation to use collective violent measures against any local residents, without taking hostages in advance. Soviet soldiers in the German rear who did not surrender were to be regarded as partisans and treated accordingly. Local residents who provided assistance to them were also considered partisans. Suspicious persons, whose behavior or way of thinking seemed dangerous, should be turned over to the punitive authorities.
        Göpner warned his subordinates that one should "be guided by an iron will for the ruthless, complete destruction of the enemy," "in particular" without giving any mercy to the leading employees. Reichenau demanded from the soldiers a complete understanding of the "need for harsh but just retribution" to the Jews, representing the German soldier in the Eastern space "not only as a warrior by all the rules of military art, but also as a bearer of the inexorable German idea and avenger for all the atrocities that were inflicted on the German people the peoples kindred with him by blood. " On November 9, he called on units of the 6th Army "to abandon their carelessness" and to use such means of destroying partisan killers "which are not characteristic of us and have never been used by German soldiers against the enemy population," namely, to publicly hang all captured partisans of both sexes. shoot hostages, hang accomplices, confiscate food and burn houses in those settlements that supplied the partisans. On December 10, Reichenau ordered, in the course of the partisans, to apply "decisive and brutal measures" to the entire male population "in order to prevent possible assassination attempts on their part", called the supply of food to local residents and prisoners of war "unnecessary humanity". Manstein also warned his soldiers and officers against false compassion for the starving local population and Soviet prisoners of war, "if they are not in the service of the German Wehrmacht." Goth demanded that "every soldier of the army, proud of our successes, should be imbued with a sense of unconditional superiority. We are the masters of the country that we have conquered ... There should be absolutely no place for sympathy and gentleness towards the population. Red soldiers brutally killed our wounded; they cruelly dealt with the prisoner and killed them.
        1. Taratut
          -1
          29 October 2012 14: 16
          Quote: Samovar
          And what do you think is false in the article? That the general died without betraying the homeland?

          Did I say that? I just didn’t understand why everyone is holding onto the version of the ice sculpture that is clearly sucked from a finger. Karbyshev is a worthy man; I did not say a word against him.

          Quote: Aleksys2
          And also the directives of the German command in 1941

          You just pulled quotes. I can give you such quotes from official German documents that the Germans will turn out to be great humanists.
          1. EropMyxoMop
            0
            29 October 2012 21: 28
            And here are quotes in the neighborhood of the village where my sister lives, the Germans threw a well for children under 7 years old is this also a quote?
          2. -1
            30 October 2012 03: 30
            Quote: Taratut
            I can give you such quotes from official German documents that the Germans will turn out to be great humanists.

            Try it, it would be interesting winked
            1. Taratut
              0
              30 October 2012 19: 03
              Read Corned beef "Brain". There are a lot of documents with phrases like "Treat the local population with respect", etc.
        2. vyatom
          0
          14 December 2012 15: 27
          And after that, these smelly sausages cry that in the 45th they had scared their terrible monsters, and they themselves were shot. They did everything right.
          I’m not sorry for the freaks.
      3. wax
        0
        29 October 2012 16: 22
        And here Karbyshev and wartime propaganda? You are not chattering, but mankurt.
      4. +1
        30 October 2012 01: 01
        Propaganda is one of the most important weapons of war. From each side. Only a "completely stupid fool" (c) can deny this. And the Second World War smoothly turned into a cold war. Then our "libegals" and "experts" like you began to teach how to educate "not on lies". Well, they destroyed the country. "Absolute truth" does not exist. As there is no "absolute lie". It all depends on the perception and purpose of the presentation. As Einstein would say - from the "observer". Your ancestors in that war were on the side of the Germans. and lost the war. And our ancestors won. Hence your hatred and dislike for Russian history and Russian heroes. As Herzen said: "The peculiarity of the Russian liberal is that he is NOT a RUSSIAN liberal." So you shouldn't pretend :))) No offense.
      5. 0
        12 December 2018 20: 34
        I recommend reading a single paragraph from Yevgeny Yakovlevich Savitsky's book "Half a Century with the Sky" - in one part he wrote that when he was driving through some German town at the beginning of 1945 on an armored vehicle, on which he was also sitting (then a general!), I saw the situation: a woman was standing by the road .. Well, standing and standing .. However, when the APC passed her, she took out a grenade from under her dress and threw it with all her fury !! The woman is not a soldier; a grenade flies over an armored personnel carrier and explodes in a couvette on the other side of the road. But!!! While she was swinging, two more actions took place at once: our sergeant on the armored personnel carrier with the words "your mother!" threw up the PPS and took the woman at gunpoint; and at that moment a child of 4-5 years old ran up to the woman and hugged her by the legs ..
        That's all: no shots were fired - for our sergeant was not a punisher or occupier, but a WARRIOR !!!
  8. +3
    29 October 2012 10: 41
    Thank you for the article! Heroes need to be remembered!
  9. Witch
    +2
    29 October 2012 10: 42
    Nda, out of interest, I conducted a survey of my subordinates, from those who grew up in the Soviet Union to educated "Pepsi" ...
    No one could answer who Karbyshev is. Where are we going. (((((
  10. +4
    29 October 2012 10: 50
    NO ONE IS FORGOTTEN AND Nothing IS FORGOTTEN,
    Glorious life and eternal memory of a real MAN.!
  11. +2
    29 October 2012 11: 15
    Eternal memory to the heroes who did not betray their homeland.
  12. DRY
    DRY
    +3
    29 October 2012 11: 18
    We were told a lot about this heroic person and his deed at school. in the courtyard of the school there is a monument in Tyumen school number 48 is now a school named after D.M. Karbysheva.
  13. dmb
    +3
    29 October 2012 11: 44
    Not all the same, Mr. Taratut is not only a vile, but also a primitive person. Follow the link indicated by him. You will not find anything there, for the statement that the reminder mentioned by him is a fake except for fabrications like him.
    1. Taratut
      -4
      29 October 2012 14: 23
      Oh really? Put on your glasses and re-read carefully.
      What is the difference in essence - a person died from a cold or from beating?
      He really did not become a traitor, and this is the main thing.
      Why come up with such nonsense
      "" The cruel tortures did not break the will of the communist. And the fascists invented a sophisticated execution for Karbyshev. In February 1945, the executioners took him to the concentration camp parade ground and began to pour water from the hoses ... The man was turned into an ice block. For a whole week there was an ice statue on the Mauthausen parade ground "For the edification of the disobedient" (M. Yurasova "Omsk. Essays on the history of the city").


      During the years of World War II, 83 Generals of the Red Army were captured. Of these, 26 people died for various reasons: they were shot, killed by the camp guard, and died from illnesses. The rest after the victory were deported to the Soviet Union. Of these, 32 were repressed (7 were hanged in the Vlasov case, 17 were shot on the basis of the order of Bet No. 270 of August 16, 1941 “On cases of cowardice and surrender and measures to curb such actions” and for “improper” behavior in captivity 8 sentenced to various terms of imprisonment).

      The remaining 25 people after more than six months of testing under the new year of 1946 were acquitted, and then gradually fired into the reserve. Such harsh reprisals against colleagues could not but make a depressing impression on the officer corps. Against this bleak background, Stalin needed a purely positive image of a captured Soviet general.
      1. 0
        29 October 2012 15: 21
        but still DMB is right about you ... then Karbyshev is just an image? myth? then explain why they freeze to death in the snow, explain about those frozen to death in the Arctic during the war. before you, I have already read one "myth-discoverer" a la rezun-suvorov on this topic ...
        say “What is the difference - a person died from the cold or from beatings?” - well, yes, what difference does it make to tell the truth or lie. How hate our history and the people who defended their country are to you ...
        1. Taratut
          -2
          29 October 2012 20: 31
          Quote: Andy
          So Karbyshev is just an image? myth?

          Karbyshev is a man. And deserves the truth. No need to speculate on him and his life.


          Quote: Wax
          So much for the tsar’s officer, not 37 years old

          "At the end of the thirties, he was already in the rank of lieutenant general. By some strange coincidence, a wave of Stalinist repressions passed him."
          http://statehistory.ru/2206/Ocherk-o-generale-Karbysheve/

          Quote: Wax
          Stalin respected such

          Stalin loved to watch Bulgakov's White Guard. Respected white officers. But it destroyed.
      2. +4
        29 October 2012 20: 33
        Karbyshev was killed with a club! A-Z. Kosmodemyanskaya herself hanged herself! 28 panfilovites were not! Sailors slipped! Sniper Zaitsev in Stalingrad accidentally shot the Germans. Sticking out a rifle from behind the mountains of corpses of the Red Army! He had one rifle for five! Gastello did not direct his plane at the German column! He himself fell! Young Guard- fiction commie !!! Zhukov is a dumb soldier !!! And so on ... Here is your truth !!!
        1. Taratut
          -2
          29 October 2012 20: 41
          Quote: Nagaibak
          Karbyshev was killed with a club!

          What does it change?

          Quote: Nagaibak
          A-Z. Kosmodemyanskaya herself hanged herself!

          Who said that? Another question is that she died following the criminal order of Stalin.

          Quote: Nagaibak
          28 panfilovites were not!

          There were. And not 28, but a division. But these tanks were not killed by 28 people. And they did not hold a position. The Germans went further. But still, well done, they didn’t run away. And the division was considered unreliable.




          Quote: Nagaibak
          Sailors slipped!

          No. Did not slip. But in a normal army there is no need for such feats. There, the firing point is crushed by artillery fire. And they attack under the cover of a smoke screen.


          Quote: Nagaibak
          Sniper Zaitsev in Stalingrad accidentally shot the Germans. Sticking out a rifle from behind the mountains of corpses of the Red Army! He had one rifle for five!

          Absolutely nonsense.


          Quote: Nagaibak
          Here is your truth

          The truth is one. She is not mine and not yours.
  14. +3
    29 October 2012 13: 44
    I’m just 21 years old, until recently I didn’t hear anything, and didn’t know who it was, literally a month or two ago I started reading the book "When Fortresses Do Not Surrender" by S. Golubov, although this is not a documentary book, but in any case I got an idea about him as a man and a military leader.
  15. wax
    +4
    29 October 2012 16: 31
    So much for the tsar’s officer, and did not touch him for 37 years. And the title of Hero was assigned to the deceased in captivity in 1946 (!), Immediately after receiving reliable data on his behavior in captivity and the circumstances of the death. Just Karbyshev - RUSSIAN officer! Man of honor! Flint! Stalin respected such.
    Can such a person be presented to change the oath, like the hero Grachev?
  16. +4
    29 October 2012 17: 49
    Karbyshev is a Russian patriot who gave his life for her, unlike many other generals, including the current ones, who are not in danger, but they are betraying Russia.
    It is necessary to propagandize today's youth not about the "penal boxers" who "won the war", but about the true heroes of Russia, such as Karbyshev.
    When I read about Karbyshev I always remember the military department of the 70s of the last century, my polytechnic institute.
    We were taught in military engineering training, instead of multi-column tables, taking into account the different hardness of the soil, to remember the simple Karbyshev formula - "one soldier, one shovel, one hour, one cubic meter of soil."
    And based on this formula, we considered a term paper on military engineering training.
    Until now, when you have to pick up a shovel and dig something, the calculation is based on the Karbyshev formula.
  17. Alexander 1958
    +4
    29 October 2012 18: 51
    For taratut
    Strange searches for the truth are yours .. You criticize inaccurate information about Karbyshev’s death, and you don’t know the history of your native Volgograd, which you clearly showed when discussing the topic of Tsaritsin’s defense. It’s worthless to such truth-seekers who find fault with trifles and hush up the main thing - the greatness of the feat of the People and its Leader!
    Alexander 1958
  18. 0
    29 October 2012 19: 57
    Especially for Taratuta:
    Read I. Ehrenburg. Do you know what he wrote at that time?
    I do not remember verbatim, but next: I didn’t kill a German - I spent my day in vain. Will a man write such a thing if no atrocities are committed against his people? Hardly...
    1. Taratut
      -1
      29 October 2012 20: 33
      The courtier scribbler will write anything. Remember the article "Comrade Ehrenburg Simplifies"?
      Ehrenburg started as a little dog, undeservedly offended by the owner. What did you write wrong? Where didn’t you understand the party line?
  19. +4
    29 October 2012 20: 18
    Song about Karbyshev
    Music: V. Olovnikov Lyrics: A. Lozneva

    Listen to the brutal torture

    About how a gray-haired general

    From the dear Motherland far

    He was dying in German captivity.

    How to break his heart

    And speech and steel of a stranger,

    Tortured by Fire and Iron

    Because he is a Russian soul.

    He and peace and freedom

    The fascist executioner promised -

    And he, incorruptible and proud,

    He stood and looked, and was silent.

    And brought out of the basement again

    On the frosty midnight of it;

    The silence of the enemies raged

    It seemed the worst.

    Poured icy water

    Fell, frozen, from the feet,

    But even under such torture

    He has kept faithfulness to the Fatherland.

    Rather you crush a stone

    What can you take a Russian heart!

    And you won’t cool it with ice

    And you won’t burn in a hot fire
  20. +1
    29 October 2012 21: 09
    Quote: Taratut


    During the years of World War II, 83 Generals of the Red Army were captured. Of these, 26 people died for various reasons: they were shot, killed by the camp guard, and died from illnesses. The rest after the victory were deported to the Soviet Union. Of these, 32 were repressed (7 were hanged in the Vlasov case, 17 were shot on the basis of the order of Bet No. 270 of August 16, 1941 “On cases of cowardice and surrender and measures to curb such actions” and for “improper” behavior in captivity 8 sentenced to various terms of imprisonment).

    The remaining 25 people after more than six months of testing under the new year of 1946 were acquitted, and then gradually fired into the reserve. Such harsh reprisals against colleagues could not but make a depressing impression on the officer corps. Against this bleak background, Stalin needed a purely positive image of a captured Soviet general.

    And they all got what they deserved, there was not the slightest depressing impression.
    Taratut, or Dmitry, I don’t know what to call you better, you know about General D.T. Kozlov, who commanded the Crimean Front, how did the bloody Stalin treat him?
    1. Taratut
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      30 October 2012 09: 15
      And why did you remember Kozlov?
      Different things - the beginning of the war or a later period. In the beginning, many fell under the hot hand and were shot or called cowards. Including those who honestly fought and died.
      And then many should have been shot. And for the mediocre defense of the Crimea, and Rotmistrov for Prokhorovka, and for Kharkov. But Stalin understood that he had no other generals.
  21. Yaik Cossack
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    29 October 2012 21: 57
    As a child, in the 80s he lived in Uralsk, we had a neighbor, grandfather Tisha. Each time he met, he gave children toys and sweets, we loved him and guarded him under the door. He painted pictures and gave to everyone. One was with my parents, one with my own uncle. Once he had an epilepsy seizure. And then we were told that during the war he was Karbyshev’s personal adjutant. They were captured together and everywhere he was with him until the last. When Karbyshev did not give consent to cooperation and they began to tighten the conditions of detention, they decided to separate them. Karbyshev clutched at Tisha’s grandfather and didn’t let him be led away, then the Germans began to beat them apart from each other, beat Karbyshev’s hands, and Tisha’s grandfather was beaten with rifle butts, after which these seizures began. In the late 80s, he died. Karbyshev, of course, is a hero, but I have one point to him: in Civil, he fought against my great-grandfathers in Uralsk and strengthened the defense of Uralsk.
    1. ICT
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      30 October 2012 04: 58
      Quote: Yaitsky Cossack
      but I have one point to him - in Civil, he fought in Uralsk against my great-grandfathers, strengthened the defense of Uralsk.


      times were terrible, banality but still: brother went to brother, son to father
    2. vyatom
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      14 December 2012 15: 30
      And what? The Cossacks were even more cruel to the simple and poor Great Russians, believing that they are better. So we got it.
  22. 0
    31 October 2012 02: 51
    Quote: Taratut
    The court scribbler will write anything.

    Well, I don't like Ehrenburg, but was the Young Guard? Or was it not? That they, who were alive, who were thrown into the pits, were also lies of Ehrenburg, Fadeev and other "court hacks"? Is this NOT a reason to hate? Kosmodemyanskaya was hanged, but was it tortured before that? Should you have loved the Germans for this?
    After all, no one said, they say, the urine of the Germans, and that’s it. In the war-com a la herr. Not you - it means you. But after atrocities occupiers - this has become the task of everyone.
  23. ken
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    April 4 2013 16: 48
    Strong man !!!!!!!!!!
  24. Dasheri
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    25 January 2014 12: 45
    Thanks for the article) And by the way, I'm a student) Moreover, the second year) But those who are younger are already at a loss for me to answer who Lenin is !!)
  25. 0
    4 August 2017 14: 55
    It is vitally important for us now living to remember heroes like Karbyshev! In conditions when tension in international politics is growing, in the pre-war situation the dissemination of information about heroes is of great importance. To at least slightly, but reduce among people a tendency to betrayal. After all, more than twenty years have passed since the collapse of our country, and all this time a psychological war has been progressively waged.