China has begun the final stages of building its own space station

The PRC is building the Tiangong station in space, preparing to become the first state in the world to solely own such an object. This moment is already close, as China has begun the final stages of building its own space station.

This message came from the Chinese agency Xinhua.

China's media said that a Long March 5B rocket was launched yesterday from the Wenchang Cosmodrome on Hainan Island. She has on board the last laboratory module of the Mentian station, whose name translates as "dream of the sky."

Arriving at a place 400 kilometers away from the earth's surface, it will dock with two other modules - the main Tiangong and the experimental Wentian. After that, it will be possible to say that the construction of the space station belonging to China is completed. The creation of this object, which will acquire a T-shape, has been ongoing since April last year. It is assumed that the Tiangong station (heavenly palace) will be ready for operation by the end of the year.

It was decided to build it after Beijing received a refusal from Washington, when the Chinese authorities expressed their desire to participate in the Russian-American project of the International Space Station (ISS).

In addition to creating its own station, Beijing's plans for space exploration include a manned flight to the moon. The Chinese expect to make it as early as this decade.

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[cold wind]

China is building the Tiangong station in space, preparing to become first in the world the state, which alone owns such an object.

VO decided to delete the USSR from history?
The fact that they are the only ones in the world now have a national space station is indisputable.

[AdAstra]

Obviously so, after which there will be news that someone, somewhere, demolishing our monuments, does not know and does not remember history "" "

[krot]

I wonder what we got from the ISS project? And what did we pass on to them as knowledge about our experience in manned stations. Was there any benefit?

[AdAstra]

To be honest, I personally don't know. "" "

[slipped]

Quote: krot

I wonder what we got from the ISS project?

First and most importantly, after the collapse of the USSR, they preserved the domestic manned cosmonautics. And these are factories and people who work there, as well as engineering technologies.

As regards conducting space experiments, both fundamental scientific research and practical work on the development of space technologies and biomedicine are carried out on the ISS.

Quote: krot

And what did we pass on to them as knowledge about our experience in manned stations. Was there any benefit?

They shared the experience of our manned flights and life in orbit in the 70s and 80s of the last century. In the absence of funding for our astronautics in the 90s and early XNUMXs, some technologies and materiel were sold to China. Benefit - the money from the sale was invested in our space industry, in the same modernization of our manned systems.

[Stas157]

So Putin also had a Russian manned research orbital station until March 23, 2001. But then they decided that participation in the ISS project was more interesting. I wanted to share my experience!

Station Mir.

[Civil]

China has begun the final stages of building its own space station

Those times ... instead of engaging in "geopolitics", the Chinese communists assembled a space station ... and before that they sent a rover, and before that this was a lunar rover ... here are the savages ...

[Andrey_Ivanovich]

that everyone on this "Mir" was obsessed, the station had exhausted its resource, the number of emergency situations went off scale, there were several fires on board. all sane people involved in space agreed that flooding is the only right solution in this situation.

[Stas157]

Quote: Andrey_Ivanovich

that everything in this "World" obsessed

Is it time to forget how the distant past?

Quote: Andrey_Ivanovich

the station had exhausted its resource, the number of emergency situations went off scale, there were several fires on board. all sane people involved in space agreed that flooding is the only correct solution in this situation.

yes you are not all reasons have listed!

The refusal to operate the station and its liquidation were due to a number of reasons: depreciation of equipment, lack of financial resources and others, including, according to the former head of Roscosmos Yuri Koptev, the rescue of the expensive American Freedom project, which was reborn into the ISS project

That's right, like the fact that in the USSR there were reasons build the Mir station, and flood someone.

[Guran33 Sergey]

right, the station itself became dangerous as it is now the "world", but the research modules could still work for 15 years. There was an option to dock the "star" to the "world". Make it a purely Russian laboratory and then there would be no this lowing with the "science" module

[Cananecat]

Quote: Stas157

I wanted to share my experience!

I wanted to get money from amers for my space.

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Quote: Stas157

So Putin also had a Russian manned research orbital station until March 23, 2001.

The last crew at the Mir station left it on June 16, 2000. By this time, the basic and first modules of the station's retrofitting had exhausted their service life THREE TIMES. Moreover, part of the equipment was inoperable, which required constant repair of the station elements and on-board instruments by the crew members, instead of scientific work, and the complete lack of funding for the program from the Yeltsin administration put an end to further operation.

The commercial component also did not shoot - the naivety and unwillingness of the leadership of the Russian space industry of that period to work in market conditions led to various crooks from Western companies taking advantage of this, promising financing in words, but doing practically nothing for this, which aggravated the situation.

The launching into orbit in 2000 of the base module of the SM Zvezda, a twin of the base module of the Mir station and its docking with the retrofitting module of the FGB Zarya with the node module of the American segment Unity, allowed Russia to continue manned space work.

Quote: Stas157

But then they decided that participation in the ISS project was more interesting. I wanted to share my experience!

Sharing experience is good. And they were divided on both sides. Today, Russia also possesses Western technologies in space technology.

[Zoldat_A]

Quote from cold wind

VO decided to delete the USSR from history?

It remains a little - to translate American textbooks into Russian and distribute them in our schools

[ALARI]

It will be funny if China has a station, but we do not.

[cold wind]

Not funny. Their station is already in orbit, we don't have it. We are participating in an international project, on a par with other countries.

[Cananecat]

Quote from cold wind

We are participating in an international project, on a par with other countries.

Because it's cheaper this way ... I'm afraid it will cost us more later.

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Quote from cold wind

Not funny. Their station is already in orbit, we don't have it.

Wrong. Three of our cosmonauts are currently present on the Russian segment of the ISS, which consists of five modules. Which work both under the Russian program for conducting scientific experiments, and according to the international one. Visiting expeditions also arrive at the ISS RS.

Quote from cold wind

We are participating in an international project, on a par with other countries.

Russia has its own manned space program. In addition, we manage the entire ISS from the Russian segment.

[skeptick2]

All this is wonderful.
But you need to read the article carefully. And understand the difference between national OS и international OS.
Like the difference between orbital station и space program.

[slipped]

Quote from: skeptick2

All this is wonderful.
But you need to read the article carefully. And understand the difference between national OS и international OS.

Natsik? It's clear

Quote from: skeptick2

Like the difference between orbital station и space program.

Apparently you don't understand.

[Doccor18]

Quote: ALARI

It will be funny

It will be rather sad, but it will be so in the near future. They are clearly overtaking seriously.

[slipped]

Quote: Doccor18

They are clearly overtaking seriously.

China in the field of manned astronautics today is at the turn of the 80-90s of the last century. For comparison - Mir station (photo 1990)

and Tiangong Station (2022 render):

and this is the Russian segment of the ISS (render 2022):

[Arkady007]

It's funny that the people who offered I. Mask to jump on a trampoline did not even build a trampoline themselves, and at the same time continue to live well on our money.

[slipped]

Quote: Arkady007

It's funny that the people who offered I. Mask to jump on a trampoline did not even build a trampoline themselves

You have a memory like a chicken and problems with causation

American astronauts were offered to jump on the trampoline in 2015. to the ISS. Musk's first manned spacecraft flew in 2020. The implementation of the proposed would make them jump from the trampoline to the station for five whole years.

But we, Russia, did not then begin to break off cooperation in space. We do not break it even now, since it is beneficial for us.

Quote: Arkady007

and at the same time continue to live well on our money.

"Your" money went to equip our group in the Donbass, it was all bought with bonuses for space:

To make it easier for our wars to crush the Nazi scum.

[Arkady007]

You carefully read what is written.
Where is the one who offered the trampoline (what he built) - the first question.
"The implementation of the proposed would have made them jump from the trampoline to the station for five whole years." I would, but it didn't happen.
If this container was collected for all the premiums from space, I'm just ashamed of such a program.

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Quote: Arkady007

Where is the one who offered the trampoline (what he built) - the first question.

In the current work of Roscosmos.

Quote: Arkady007

"The implementation of the proposed would have made them jump from the trampoline to the station for five whole years." I would, but it didn't happen.

And it's good that it didn't happen.

Quote: Arkady007

If this container was collected for all the premiums from space, I'm just ashamed of such a program.

Put your foolishness in your f....

[Arkady007]

Foolishness when they collect less for Roskosmos bonuses than former military pensioners pooling.
Therefore, shove yourself what you want.

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Quote: Arkady007

Foolishness when they collect less for Roskosmos bonuses than former military pensioners pooling.

Did the ipsoshnik collect a lot?

Quote: Arkady007

Therefore, shove yourself what you want.

I already told you that I want higher. And you cry some more.

[Vladimir Vladimirovich Vorontsov]

China is building the Tiangong station in space, preparing to become the world's first state, which alone owns a similar object

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- Salyut-1 is the world's first space station launched by the Soviet Union into low Earth orbit on April 19, 1971 ...

(The name “Zarya” was emblazoned on the body of the Salyut-1 station. The station was called differently, having learned that the name was occupied by a Chinese satellite)
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[rocket757]

China has begun the final stages of building its own space station

They are evolving and moving forward.
Of course, this is about earthly space ... they are not pioneers in this matter.
But it is important not only to open, further steps are important, development, moving forward ...
In general, we will continue to look.

[kor1vet1974]

The PRC is building the Tiangong station in space, preparing to become the first state in the world to solely own such an object.

But what about the station "Mir"? It belonged to the USSR, then to Russia .. the championship will not belong to China ..

[skeptick2]

I see that many here have problems with the Russian language.
Possessing - present participle.
In relation to the USSR, only the sacrament can be used having in the past time.
So the emphasis in the article is placed absolutely precisely: China today - the only country in the world, which has national OS
The USSR, by the way, for those who have forgotten, ceased to exist in December 1991.

[Dmitry Karabanov]

Well done Chinese! They built their personal station - and we drowned Mir. Now China has a station - and we only have "dear partners" to allow it. It can be seen that Comrade Xi knows how to learn from the mistakes of others!

[Petr_Koldunov]

Quote: Dmitry Karabanov

They built their personal station - and we drowned Mir. Now China has a station - and we only have "dear partners" to allow it.

The funny thing here is that it was originally assumed that we would build a joint station with the Chinese, there were talks and projects in 2018 about this. This was explained by the fact that in 2018 China did not have sufficient knowledge, skills and technologies for this. But 5 years have passed... and now they have decided, apparently, that not voting against Russia in the UN Security Council is a quite sufficient level of partnership and alliance.

[Aleksandr21]

Quote: Peter_Koldunov

The funny thing here is that it was originally assumed that we would build a joint station with the Chinese, there were talks and projects about this in 2018.

Maybe you meant Lunar space station? because projects of a joint orbital station, at least I have not seen ... but there were talks and rumors about a joint Lunar orbital station, in this period of time.

But in any case, this is a utopia .... because. even if both sides were ready for such a project, then Russia would have to invest heavily in the construction of such a station, and our budget is clearly not ready for this + we are already participating in the ISS project, and in order to finance a new international project, we would have to say goodbye to old ... but in 2010-2020 we could not afford this. and there was no such interest.

In China, by the way, too, there was no particular desire to build a joint project ... they have funding and national. a space program that provides for the construction of a NATIONAL space station, with the invitation of other international partners to this project, i.e. as guests...

And in the future. if there is a project for a lunar space station (with a crew), then the parties will have to invest so well .... are we ready to take on 50% of the funding? I highly doubt this.)

[Lisiy Prapor]

No, well, like adults, but they believe in fairy tales. Well, what is the lunar orbital station? The circumlunar space is not protected either by the Earth's magnetosphere or radiation belts, in 2-3 months the station will turn into a radioactive piece of metal. Isn't it very expensive to build such a one-time station?

[Reserve buildbat]

But the mattresses scream that they flew to the moon more than once and everything is fine! They didn’t even need toilets, the “astronauts” lived in diapers for weeks and nothing, they didn’t choke on feces in their spacesuits.

[Fred Dozer]

The lunar mission is very similar to a Hollywood production. NASA is upset they lost plans for the Apollo missions to the moon. Everything on this mission was powered by batteries on the lunar surface. If only we could have such a battery today?

[Reserve buildbat]

Yes, they even "lost" a couple of hundred kilograms of lunar soil, which they allegedly brought

[ZIF122]

Yes, China calmly does only what benefits its country, without taking into account the opinion and interests of some "partners"!

[Reserve buildbat]

"Mir" was drowned because it was designed for 5 years of operation, but how long did it really serve? It was already unsafe to be there, and one must take into account the cost and technology of repairs in space. So, no matter how sorry, "Mir" was drowned correctly.

[Woodman]

, preparing to become the first state in the world to single-handedly own such an object.

Second. Or did I accidentally get on the Ekho Moskvy?

[Fat]

Quote: Lesovik

Or did I accidentally get on the Ekho Moskvy?

There is an error here. China is the 3rd state with its own station. Maybe you just forgot about Skylab?

[Woodman]

Quote: Thick

Have you just forgotten about Skylab?

Indeed, I forgot. From indignation at such a brazen rewriting of history. And later I did not consider it necessary to correct the comment.

[Alien From]

Here are the Chinese! And we have another bureaucrat from the TV will bleat that apple trees will bloom on Mars. In Chinese, apparently Mars. Envy is not a good feeling, but it manifests itself

[AdAstra]

That's right, the Chinese officially have a communist ideology and the state flag is red, and Mars is called the red planet

[ivan2022]

The author tested: "have the readers forgotten about Salyuts and Mir? It turns out that you can simultaneously make films about terrible accidents at the Soviet space station and hint that" they didn't do anything except galoshes "... Here are such" creative "now they rule ..... This is the finish line. A normal person can vomit worse than in zero gravity ......

[Maks1995]

That's how purely by chance you find out about a breakthrough in space ...
Well, we can see that we have to be content with Rogozin's memes.
after the curtailment of many projects and scandals with the optimization of money into the pockets of the elite...

[Petr_Koldunov]

I'm embarrassed to even ask ... that is, earlier in history there were no examples of sole possession of an orbital space station ???
I wonder when other authors write - do they read at least some information on the subject? Or "the Chukchi is not a reader, the Chukchi is a writer" ???

[Sergey Drozdov]

And the Russian Federation will soon fly to the Moon and Mars - I hope that the program of the great conqueror of the Universe, Baron Rogozin, continues?

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Quote: Sergey Drozdov

And the Russian Federation will soon fly to the Moon and Mars - I hope that the program of the great conqueror of the Universe, Baron Rogozin, continues?

Russia has a Federal Space Program. At the moment, it covers the period 2016-2025. And it is being fulfilled. You can get acquainted with the main stages at the link https://www.roscosmos.ru/22347/

[rotmistr60]

Quote: Civil

instead of doing "geopolitics" ...

They are doing well in geopolitics and are doing well today. The main desire, perseverance, tight control and all in the presence of money. The party said it was necessary, the Chinese answered yes.

[Kostadinov]

The PRC is building the Tiangong station in space, preparing to become the first state in the world to solely own such an object.

The first state in the world with a similar object was the USSR.

[Reserve buildbat]

The communist USSR had the world's first space station without imported hangers-on. Now communist China is building its own national station. And capitalist Russia (not to mention the capitalist mattress) only swallows dust.