The Air Force of the Armed Forces of Ukraine announced the recruitment of the first group of pilots for training on Western-made fighters

Ukraine is starting preparations for the entry into service of the Air Force of the Armed Forces of the Armed Forces of Ukraine with Western-made fighters, a group of pilots has already been selected for training on foreign aircraft. This was stated by the speaker of the command of the Air Force of the Armed Forces of Ukraine Yuriy Ignat.

According to Ignat, a group of pilots has been identified in the Armed Forces of the Armed Forces of Ukraine who will go to one of the Western countries to undergo training in piloting Western fighters. As emphasized, the group included young pilots who speak English and have "powerful combat experience." At the same time, he could not explain anything when the group would leave for training, since the issue of the supply of Western-made aircraft has not yet been resolved. However, according to Kyiv, permission to supply fighters has already been received, they simply cannot decide which aircraft to supply to Ukraine.

(...) the issue of Western-style fighters, perhaps the F15 and F16, is a very urgent one that needs to be raised. Ukrainian pilots are ready to go to study even tomorrow. It's up to Western partners who have not finally decided on the type of aircraft that can be provided to Ukraine

- said the representative of the Armed Forces of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, adding that the MiG-29 and Su-29 in service do not correspond to the threats that "Russia bears."

Earlier, the Pentagon did not rule out the transfer of Western fighters of American or European production to Ukraine, but in the medium or long term, this issue is not being considered at the moment. According to the Americans, at present, military assistance provides for the supply of only ground weapons and ammunition. At the same time, Kyiv said that the fighters must be delivered as quickly as possible and that it is desirable that they be American F-16s and F-15s, the most "suitable" for combating Russian fighters.

Comments

[Nexcom]

well, here Svidomo will have an unopened capacity - if only there are enough pilots: there are a lot of boards on conservation in the desert. Shaman and to the Krajina. It is unlikely that they will be supplied from the active Air Force - as always, they will give it back from conservation.

[Real Pilot]

I recall the old Soviet joke:

- Dear passengers! We welcome you on board. The crew of our liner has a lot of experience, they have a thousand successful takeoffs and not a single accident-free landing on their account ...
The door to the cockpit opens, the commander comes out:
- Well, suicide bombers, let's do somersaults?

Among the many take-offs and landings there will be a minimum. Especially if the Americans Svidomo put junk from conservation. Well, guys "do not miss" serve in our air defense

[Nexcom]

it would be nice if so...
I hope they can't hurt us too much

[4ekist]

..... a group of pilots has already been selected for training on foreign aircraft.

Previously, there was information that training is already underway. So the appearance of these aircraft, I believe, is not far off.

[carpenter]

Quote: RealPilot

Among the many take-offs and landings there will be a minimum. Especially if the Americans Svidomo put junk from conservation.

So the Yankees do not consider Svidomo, they are recruited without an account and with a margin.

[Myths]

Most likely, they want to cover the sorties of their pilots.

[Third district]

Quote: RealPilot

Among the many take-offs and landings there will be a minimum. Especially if the Americans Svidomo put junk from conservation. Well, guys "do not miss" serve in our air defense

How tired of this hatred. You think that the enemy has junk and we have one new thing on the front line. Soon it will come to the supply of nuclear weapons to Ukraine, and again they will write here that this is nonsense, it is old from storage.

[Piramidon]

Quote: Nexcom

as long as there are enough pilots

Again mercenaries will be attracted. Black-faced Ostap and Mykola will catch up.

[Nexcom]

Boris Johnsonuk? Well, yes, they will be able to spoil skillfully

[poquello]

Quote: Nexcom

It is unlikely that they will be supplied from the active Air Force - as always, they will give it back from conservation.

it’s unlikely, the most stuffed and with the “Ukrainians” will stick it in, I don’t think that the dill is working with the new German anti-aircraft guns, for sure the “Ukrainians” with German mugs

[ZIF122]

Well, if the Americans begin to train pilots and supply their modern combat aircraft to Ukraine, then this will be another but already a very big step towards the beginning of World War III!

[iouris]

You slept through World War III. And the beginning of the fourth. Sleep well, dear friend!

[Plate]

Quote: iouris

You slept through World War III.

So, when did the third happen?

[carpenter]

Quote: Plate

So, when did the third happen?

World War III started in 2014.

[Plate]

According to this logic, the Second World War began no later than the 36th year.

[carpenter]

Quote: Plate

The Second World War began no later than the 36th year.

In 1935, WWII began, but not in Europe, but in Southeast Asia.

[iouris]

World War II began on 07-07-1937. Japan started the war by attacking China. The war ended in September 1945 with the signing of Japan's surrender aboard the battleship Missouri in Tokyo Bay. The Republic of China is one of the founding members of the UN. The Soviet delegation did not sign the act of surrender. World War III ("Cold War") began with the nuclear bombing of Hiroshima and Nagasaki, or even the bombing of Dresden.
A medal was established for the victory over the USSR in the USA (did you think no one lost? Make a mistake).
The active phase of the Fourth World War began on 08-08-08. You can already speculate how it will end.

[Plate]

Quote: iouris

A medal was established for the victory over the USSR in the USA (did you think no one lost? Make a mistake).

I was absolutely sure that the USSR lost, and now I am sure. But I would not call the Cold War a direct world war. It passed, of course, all over the world, but it was far from always accompanied by hostilities. In general, it falls out of a series of two previous world wars. What is happening now is just an attempt to revise the results of the Cold War, in my opinion. And since an attempt to revise the First World War led to World War II with the same large-scale hostilities, then an attempt to revise the Cold War should be expressed through a repetition of the same Cold War that we are now witnessing. We have Ukraine instead of Korea, I think.

[Third district]

Quote: Plate

an attempt to revise the Cold War should be expressed through a repetition of the same Cold War that we are now witnessing. We have Ukraine instead of Korea, I think.

If this is the Cold War and Ukraine instead of Korea. Instead of whom we have residents of the Kursk, Bryansk and Belgorod regions. You tell them that the war is "cold", you will learn a lot about yourself.

[Essex62]

And from the inhabitants of the outskirts, you can also learn a lot of new things. Not those who are Svidomo on their heads, but normal Russian people who woke up overnight in the war. Civil War. There are few of them, most of them live by adapting to orders and ideologies. It is not worth blaming these people for not throwing themselves at the frostbitten Bandera, armed to the teeth, with their bare hands. Many of us also experience a steady aversion to the surrounding reality, but they live.

[Beaver]

June 25, 1950, Korean War. Pretty much World War 3

[Dismas]

World wars begin for economic reasons and pursue economic goals, with a global redistribution of the World and its markets (in fact, this ends). Otherwise, any local conflict involving several parties for dominance in this local region can be considered a World War. Then the Russo-Japanese War ... also the World War.

[Essex62]

WWII falls out of this formula. One of its main participants was the USSR, but it did not participate in the redistribution of markets. In changing the political map of the world, yes, but not markets.

[Nexcom]

so they already do it. Lucien threatened that by the end of the year the first squadron entirely on foreign aircraft would be formed. it’s good that their EPR signatures are known and I hope this will not be such a difficult goal for our air defense and pilots.

[Ingvar 72]

Quote: Nexcom

so they already do it

I heard two or three months ago that Ukrainian pilots are retraining on the F-16 from spring.

[Nexcom]

well, you see? it seems that Lucien did not lie this time - according to the terms of preparation, it turns out six months or a little more. During this time, it is quite possible to train a pilot well. Well, if you don’t make an ace out of him, but train decently, you can.

[kot423]

Quote: Nexcom

During this time, it is quite possible to train a pilot well. Well, if you don’t make an ace out of him, but train decently, you can.

Well, not a fact ... One indicator of the horizon is worth something, at Discovery they sorted out the catastrophe of a civilian side precisely because of it. So there, on the Zapadensky board, the former Soviet Union's flyers drove for the 5th year and still the knowledge driven in the union took over. (I don’t remember exactly how anyone has it, but there the seagull is motionless on some devices, and vice versa on others).

[Ugens]

Virtually all deliveries of Western weapons took place before official announcements.

[Ugens]

The signatures of MiGs and Su are still known to Bolle, but they continue to fly. Although Konashenkov destroyed them all in the spring)))

[Piramidon]

Quote from ugens

The signatures of MiGs and Su are still known to Bolle, but they continue to fly. Although Konashenkov destroyed them all in the spring)))

And how many more have been additionally delivered and continue to be delivered? The USSR and post-Soviet Russia supplied half of the world with aviation and other weapons. Now we have to dispose of all this in / in Ukraine.

[sgrabik]

They still continue to fly, but not far and not for long.

[Sergei V]

Here the locals can’t shoot down, but you dreamed about foreigners

[Piramidon]

What, so for all the time not a single one was shot down?

[DymOk_v_dYmke]

Quote: ZIF122

Well, if the Americans begin to train pilots and supply their modern combat aircraft to Ukraine, then this will be another but already a very big step towards the beginning of World War III!

There will be nothing.
Lipstick for drawing "red lines" has either run out or faded for a long time.
Not much to count on.
In any case, until the development vector changes to socialism.

[January]

And what is the difference between the supply of rifles and any rocket-artillery and combat aircraft? In terms of steps? Like self-propelled guns and haimars are tsatski, there are no particular complaints about them, but the 50-year-old F14 "is this already a very big step towards the beginning of the third world war"?

[Andrey VOV]

Su-29, what kind of device is this? Didn't hear something

[Bolt cutter]

Su-29, what is it

Like here he is. In Germany, one (1993) is sold for 195000 euros.

[Eug]

There is one, but not combat, light sports. An obvious typo.

[Eug]

There is one, but not combat, light sports. An obvious typo.

[Bingo]

Take two, the same frame, the Taliban have already been taught, sorry, "the democratic forces of Afghanistan." Will they ask for political asylum right away, or a little later?
And the phrase about "powerful combat experience" amused me a lot))) Although the Firebomber has already posted a photo of gray-haired flyers of the Armed Forces of Ukraine against the background of the Su-27, these can fly in Afghanistan under the USSR - they have experience))) Only in the USA they are not old enough to fly will allow

[VSO-396]

Well, you don’t equate illiterate bearded men with the Slavs: the ninth month has gone, in my opinion, almost everyone has stopped mocking

[sgr291158]

While they are trained, they will fly to nothing.

[aars]

It would be nice, but extremely unlikely.
The resources of the West are great, the war will be long.
And we must prepare for this, and not rely on the Poles or other chances.

[Lt. Air Force stock]

They have a lot of F-16s, and they can also put E-2C AWACS with them. But F-16s can only be based on equipped airfields, they won’t take off from the field.

[Nexcom]

and not only - they all need normal maintenance, they need equipment and infrastructure, high-quality AeroJet 100 fuel. So ..... Maybe they don't last long...
And the weapons??? rockets, bombs?
Well, you also need to take it somewhere - but you can only take it from amers

[Ugens]

The Poles have been using the F-16 for a long time, they will share their experience, or even provide their own airfields.
And the United States has a shaft of missiles and bombs for aviation, they may have a shortage of ammunition for the ground forces, and aviation is their strong point and the stocks there are completely different.

[Third district]

Quote: Nexcom

and not only - they all need normal maintenance, they need equipment and infrastructure, high-quality AeroJet 100 fuel. So ..... Maybe they don’t fly for long ...
And the weapons??? rockets, bombs?
Well, you also need to take it somewhere - but you can only take it from amers

Everything will be delivered from American military bases located in Europe. Or directly from the USA, through Poland. Moreover, the supply chain has already been worked out. And no one intends to violate this logistics. Only today they wrote that the railway train with tanks from Slovenia calmly arrived in Ukraine. Now they will be delivered to the front line.

[Boniface]

Guys in MO take note!
So that later they don’t shrug when the F-16s appear over Our positions - but we didn’t know ...

[Ingvar 72]

Quote: Boniface

Guys in MO take note!

If only those guys knew how to react in time! Vladlen Tatarsky had warned of a future attack on Balakleya and Kupyansk several days in advance. As a result, for the ranks of the Moscow Region, this turned out to be like snow on their heads.

[barbiturate]

Yes, it was clear for a long time, our response to all the actions of the West is like Putin in Valdai - we are your friends, friends and nuclear weapons will never be used, in translation - drive anything into hohland, it’s absolutely safe, so art and the most modern tanks will go in a jamb soon Well, the planes of course. This is the new Vietnam, Afghanistan
Well, then the next step - hohlandia will declare itself a nuclear power, the Americans will give bombs and say, we don’t know anything, we just handed them over to Ukraine, and we don’t bear responsibility for their use and wet each other, Slavic nonhumans - they’ll say so, and ours again mumble something from the field of friendship and goodwill gestures

[Andrey_Ivanovich]

Well? we recall the phrase of all propaganda irons: "we are not striving for a high pace of conducting the NMD while saving the lives of our military personnel and the civilian population of Ukraine." now we will wait for the "abrams" and "leopards" and continue to blow about saving lives.

[rocket757]

At the same time, he could not explain anything when the group would leave for training, since the issue of the supply of Western-made aircraft has not yet been resolved. However, according to Kyiv, permission to supply fighters has already been received, they simply cannot decide which aircraft to supply to Ukraine.

. It is unlikely that the issue has been finally resolved here and it remains to name the date WHEN they will begin to give the imported flight equipment ... but, the skakuas need to be stimulated, otherwise they will scatter, who is where and not a little.

[Vadim Topal Pasha]

Fuck degradation! Is it that the Svidomo are already armed with piston training aircraft instead of jet fighters? I'm talking about the Su-29, if anyone does not understand.

In fact, after trying to arrange training duels of Western aircraft against the MiG-29 (from the GDR) or Su 30 (from India), Western pilots develop a feeling of inferiority.

If Ukrainian pilots had experience flying Soviet fighters, then they would have doubts about Western superiority!


Sir Zelensky! I strongly recommend that you publicly slander in the manner of genocide and the more authoritative ideas of shifting the liotchiks from the radian wineries to the bottom. Through the wretchedness of the rest of the pilots, it is guaranteed to feel sorry for the victory of Russian technology before the Wild Sunset. How can I win Ukraine over the hordes of the Mongols!

Sala Ukraine - Sala to the Heroes! :)

[Emergency]

In a couple of days, a refutation of the owners will arrive. They say the serf did not understand everything, he ran ahead of the locomotive, and in general this is nonsense.

[Real Pilot]

Quote: Nexcom

it would be nice if so...
I hope they can't hurt us too much

I agree with you. Jokes aside, this is bad news! And it is necessary to resolve the issue of SVO as soon as possible, before they manage to reach the next level ...
And to mess up is the Americans and their last ones know how.

[aleksr2005]

So, let the planes go, soon the tanks will go to the west. And in this case, when will we start shooting down satellites and their heavy drones?

[Radical]

The Air Force of the Armed Forces of Ukraine announced the recruitment of the first group of pilots for training on Western-made fighters

It was obvious. A month ago, I spoke about this in a commentary to some article, only it was a matter of time. This is another signal to our lover of negotiations, although I would call this news in a different way ... .

[Roust]

The first and last, but letaki could live ..

[Piramidon]

Quote: Vadim Topal-Pasha

Is it that the Svidomo are already armed with piston training aircraft instead of jet fighters? I'm talking about the Su-29, if anyone does not understand.

This, obviously, they appeared in the author of the article in crooked fingers. I hit the wrong key.

[Dmitry Karabanov]

Already even the grandmothers on the benches realized that the longer this war drags on, the more victims! There is no doubt that the F15 will appear, and the air defense missile defense will be brought. But our authorities are raving about the negotiations, not realizing that for the United States this war is a super-profitable business project. Oh, well, our entire General Staff and the Ministry of Defense did not give birth to a single Rokossovsky, and Putin, together with the entire government, is not even half of V.I. Stalin!

[filibuster]

To do what? If Putin started the NWO purely as a small victorious company to exalt his beloved. Here, 300 thousand were hardly mobilized, about a million went abroad, the economy could seriously collapse by spring, well, Russia is not pulling this war against Ukraine with the support of the West, there was such a Crimean war in the past, Russian-Japanese, Tukhachevsky’s campaign in Poland. The best thing that can be done now, as for me, is to strengthen what was captured, bring down the offensive potential of Ukraine, and then freeze the conflict, in fact, the Kremlin’s statements about the possibility of negotiations rather speak of such a scenario. Ukraine also does not have an infinite number of people, with the stabilization of the front, the fuse and motivation will sharply decline.

[Timur_kz]

Most likely it will. But then it will unfreeze, and the Ukrainians are already on Abrams and Western planes ... and there will be a lot of tactical missiles. And Russia is under sanctions. Here it is no longer possible to stop, like sharks, only forward. Only the quality of the elites in Russia, led by Putin, is depressing ... well, they are not able to make a breakthrough either in technology or in the economy.

[filibuster]

There will be no abrams and tactical missiles, as soon as the conflict freezes, help will decrease sharply.
If they wanted to give them tactical missiles, they would have already given them.

[Dartanian]

Great .... Let's look at the recordings of air battles, the recordings from Western aircraft will be in good quality .... The president and the environment are wonderful profession, you can tell about the Motherland. ....

[Sergei Dubinkin_2]

training Ukrainians is just an excuse, mercenaries from NATO countries, former and current pilots from airfields in Poland and Romania will fly. Acting as if on vacation and with papers that serve in the army.

[aars]

There will be mercenaries, there will be Bandera - why should their owners feel sorry for them?

[Rustic]

Acting, as it were, on vacation and with papers that serve in the APU.

Still easier. How long does it take for a pig woman to draw their passports for them? And then squeal about conventions.

[Arisaka]

Quote: DymOk_v_dYmke

In any case, until the development vector changes to socialism.

Since when does the presence of political will depend on the political vector, religion, gender, or something else?

[Carlos Hall]

They won't stop until you send missiles and nuclear weapons to Iran and North Korea.

[Sergei V]

Well, everything is stable for local patriots, they say, just give us all this garbage.

[Dali]

Quote: Sergey V

Well, everything is stable for local patriots, they say, just give us all this garbage.

You were given a bad training manual this time ...
There are very few Ukroboev aviation left, and all that flies is mainly deliveries from the former countries of the Warsaw Pact, there were enough combat aircraft delivered from the Union !!!

[james]

The goal of the NWO is the war of Russians against Russians (organized by the Anglo-Saxons - you can’t drink away centuries of experience), while the passionaries are destroyed and stand on the other side, and the so-called hatoskrayniks will remain, that is, those who will no longer oppose the West and their development path.

[opuonmed]

Well, we’ll pull time there and they will teach air defense and not only! while we stand in one place, the enemy is trained and supplied! do not really understand the top of it! and yes, the GDP says everything about negotiations, but the Ukrm will not give any negotiations!

[Just a visitor.]

They prepare, educate and arm the grave-diggers and executioners for the Russian people, according to the Russian principle, only Russians can win. If the Russian army sits on the defensive and indecisive, it will not end well. the end.

[Real Pilot]

Quote: Piramidon

Quote: Nexcom

as long as there are enough pilots

Again mercenaries will be attracted. Black-faced Ostap and Mykola will catch up.

Oh yeah! Mercenaries are a classic of the genre. Here I completely agree.
However, there is a moment in the news that confuses me, we read the headline:

The Air Force of the Armed Forces of Ukraine announced the recruitment first groups of pilots for training on western-made fighters

If we strain our memory, it will emerge that we have already sent groups to study at attack aircraft A-10 Warthog. These, of course, are not fighters, but the training was announced. With the cries of the ssidoma that they throw and don’t give it ... And after all, the attack aircraft have not given it yet either.
And cadets at the same air bases are retrained. Therefore, there is a possibility that the groups have already been assembled, there is a raid on different types, and now they are being legalized in the press...
Public opinion is being probed before the transfer of aircraft. Bidon has less than 2 weeks left, after which the question may become irrelevant.

[VSO-396]

You mean, "Bidon has less than 2 weeks left"? Is there a presidential election? Not? And I assure you, nothing, in terms of Ukraine, will change.

[Real Pilot]

Quote: kot423

Quote: Nexcom

During this time, it is quite possible to train a pilot well. Well, if you don’t make an ace out of him, but train decently, you can.

Well, not a fact ... One indicator of the horizon is worth something, at Discovery they sorted out the catastrophe of a civilian side precisely because of it. So there, on the Zapadensky board, the former Soviet Union's flyers drove for the 5th year and still the knowledge driven in the union took over. (I don’t remember exactly how anyone has it, but there the seagull is motionless on some devices, and vice versa on others).

Yes, there was such a story. Moreover, this difference in perception killed more than one crew!
Instrument flight is a situation where you stop trusting yourself, instruments and common sense in adverse weather conditions or in case of failures. And when the right hand is also nervous, the commander doubts even more.

The main thing is not to start swearing among themselves, then just a khan.
Once I listened to excerpts from the radio exchange of the crashed An-148 in the Moscow region in 2018. So the airspeed sensor failed there, as it turned out later. They added traction, and then quarreled. Misunderstanding leads to irreparable...

[air wolf]

Well, it’s time for us to start working on a full-fledged MiG-31BM, I don’t understand why they were made then? Two, three pairs along the front can remove all questions about aircraft, and let the UAVs be removed from the ground.

[Kaiten]

Bullshit, countless squadrons of SU-57s will smash the fascist Ukrainian litaks. And then you can take Kyiv for three, if Almaty will give you a ride.

[Voron81]

Wake up, what other countless squadrons of SU-57s? What Almaty will be brought? We have all of this in piece quantities. And our military-industrial complex is not capable of rhythmically producing these samples. It's time to recover toy patriots.

[VSO-396]

Yes, he is joking. Can't you see the sarcasm?

[Kaiten]

Quote: Voron81

Wake up, what other countless SU-57 squadrons? What Almaty will be brought? We have all this in piece quantities. And our military-industrial complex is not capable of rhythmically producing these samples. It's time to recover toy patriots

On the tilivisor they showed a whole division on Red Square, which means there are tanks. And you are all lying. Hold new tanks and planes.

[garik77]

Quote from ugens

The signatures of MiGs and Su are still known to Bolle, but they continue to fly. Although Konashenkov destroyed them all in the spring)))

The Ukropskys, which were flying at the time of February 24, were probably knocked out, but our "partners" leaked everything they had in reserve to the Nazis and helped bring the non-flying rubbish from the parking lots into a flying state. Hence the abundance of Soviet aircraft, which never end.

[Osipov9391]

And in which European countries were the Su-27 and Su-24 in service or even in storage?
As of February, Ukraine had about 20 aircraft of that type in flight condition.

[VSO-396]

The TV does not respond to this. And so, yes, at first they managed to disperse them, and continue to use them correctly.

[Osipov9391]

They left the airfields bordering Russia on February 16 - Western intelligence reported everything in detail.
Perhaps they settled in hangars in Western Ukraine and fly from highways. Probably served in Poland and Romania.
But in any case, it is her, those same planes, that are now flashing over Ukraine.
Let there be 15 MiG-29s and the same number of Su-25s handed over by the Bulgarians and the Poles.
But they were badly worn out and could not significantly change the situation.
So probably 50-55% of the Air Force of the Armed Forces of Ukraine has survived to this day and is combat-ready.

[CYM]

according to Kyiv, permission to supply fighters has already been received, they just cannot decide which aircraft to supply to Ukraine

IMHO It is worth officially declaring that the use by Ukraine of foreign combat aircraft in the airspace of the Russian Federation (including new regions) will be regarded as a war under a false flag and aggression against the Russian Federation by the countries of suppliers (manufacturers) of aircraft ...

[Rosemary]

Quote: CYM

according to Kyiv, permission to supply fighters has already been received, they just cannot decide which aircraft to supply to Ukraine

IMHO It is worth officially declaring that the use by Ukraine of foreign combat aircraft in the airspace of the Russian Federation (including new regions) will be regarded as a war under a false flag and aggression against the Russian Federation by the countries of suppliers (manufacturers) of aircraft ...

Yes, how many of them have already been - such official statements. So what? Soon the idiom "336th Chinese warning" will be replaced by "336th Russian official statement."

[CYM]

IMHO Do not tell the MGM-140 ATACMS the Americans never handed over to the Ukrainians for this very reason. If an American ballistic missile arrives at Kursk or Belgorod, this is already US aggression against the Russian Federation with all the consequences.

[Voron81]

And.... Nothing will happen. My friend, our "superpower" causes fear only among moronic and extremely cowardly homosexuals from Europe. In the USA, they saw her in a coffin, they only encouraged the local Papuans by declaring that Russia had the 2nd army of the world and launching journalists' chatter in the press about "I'm afraid, I'm afraid." But in reality they laugh at the Stinkers and consider China the main competitor. Start getting smarter people, because you should not expect this from the path with his team. We can't fight back with them.

[Elissa Mare]

Well, with Navalny, of course, they would fight back)))

[CYM]

Judging by the number of minuses, the "friends" - the tsipsots did not like my proposal at all - and that's the point. Why are you so hacky, you seem to write on behalf of "Russian patriots", and the jargon is purely Russophobic - "Smells" .

With them we can not fight back

[ivan2022]

They waited .... Savers of soldiers' lives .... . There is such folk wisdom: "Let the rulers do what they want. As long as there is no war .... And a revolution" ....... Yeltsin praised her very much in his time ....

[Elissa Mare]

The tactics of “fighting to the last Ukrainian” continues..

[Johann Klassen]

Yes, UkroLeprozoria has more suppliers of all kinds of "shit" than it should. And most importantly, they spend money without counting. Is it free of charge? They will probably demand a return with high interest. But, honestly, in this trouble, the biggest fault is the mediocre Russian top managers (starting from FROM and ending with TO). By the way, who kept repeating day and night that we don't need anything, that the US and Europe have their own interests in the post-Soviet space, but Russia doesn't? Like this!

[MSG363]

Haha, do they think they still have enough time to prepare someone!? Or did they decide, like the Japanese in the Second World War, to prepare kamikaze, who only knew how to take off and that's it? True, there is another option that they will fight for someone else or from the territory of foreign states, but for this you can take your time, these will already be essentially cheap mercenaries, consumables

[kig]

And what is this talking about?
- the command of the Armed Forces of Ukraine thinks that planes are being prepared (or are already ready) for them somewhere;
- the command of the Armed Forces of Ukraine thinks that there is enough time for pilot training;
- it is quite possible that tankers will soon go to study;
- what those who set tasks for our generals think is completely incomprehensible

[vadim_ivanov]

There is nothing good in this. There is no need to rely on air defense, it is not infinitely summing up its shots for nothing, the destruction of mini and micro drones

[acetophenone]

This is what happens when everything is put on one horse. And this "horse" does not pull the war. In Valdai, picking up - yes. In Russia, hang noodles on your ears - yes. Riding horses and taking pictures with bears is easy. But there is no war. And there are no prospects. Well, I don't see it, let's put it this way.

[garik77]

Quote: Nexcom

well, here Svidomo will have an unopened capacity - if only there are enough pilots: there are a lot of boards on conservation in the desert. Shaman and to the Krajina. It is unlikely that they will be supplied from the active Air Force - as always, they will give it back from conservation.

Only there is not conservation, but an open-air sump. Such aircraft, after "roasting" under the tropical sun of Arizona (Tucson), will not be easy to bring back to life. Cable insulation, sealant, gaskets, and in general any plastic is clearly a replacement. Very costly

[Vadim Topal Pasha]

Quote: Piramidon

Quote: Vadim Topal-Pasha

Is it that the Svidomo are already armed with piston training aircraft instead of jet fighters? I'm talking about the Su-29, if anyone does not understand.

This, obviously, they appeared in the author of the article in crooked fingers. I hit the wrong key.

It is possible and very likely. Have you noticed how my comment was severely downvoted? I’m thinking that Svidomo didn’t like it, or was the local broke through Google translator to return the last part of the text and from MOV to Russian?

[sgrabik]

And they will fly on broomsticks, while not far and not at all for long, in a word, suicide bombers.

[Valery 1966]

It takes years and a lot of work to prepare. English pilot, Ukrainian uniform, Nazi chevron. This is how it will be. They will fly with faulty catapults so that there are no prisoners of information leaked to Russia, who pilots the plane.

[Vsevolod Z]

We must not underestimate the enemy, we will shower everyone with cheap (bought from Iran) drones, we received an answer in Sevastopol. NATO air defense is rubbish, supplies have been increased, there are losses. Three axes, outdated system, catching shells. HIMARS units and will not decide anything, arrivals at our warehouses and bases.
Looking forward to aviation?
I can’t throw hats on, I’m silent about the winter. So far I do not see we are ready for winter. Minus.

[Timur_kz]

Who in the subject can explain whether the F16 can be delivered to Ukraine, like you heard there some kind of infrastructure requirements for it? What are the requirements, to pave the strip or something?

[Evgenijus]

... American F-16s and F-15s, the most "suitable" for fighting Russian fighters.

I always assumed that the decisive factor in air combat is a trained pilot. Ukraine does not yet have such trained pilots, and its virtual F-15s, F-16s are already ready to fight Russian fighters.

[Ponimatel]

could not explain when the group would leave for training, as the issue with the supply of Western-made aircraft has not yet been resolved. 

Looks like it's been fixed, it's just a matter of timing.

[Ponimatel]

Quote: Plate

According to this logic, the Second World War began no later than the 36th year.

More precisely the 33rd.

[FoBoss_VM]

Artamonov said two weeks ago that in Germany they were already teaching a group of pilots for the Air Force.

[Parvis rasulov]

Most likely, we are talking about the training of Ukrainian pilots in Poland, about two weeks ago, Poland announced the purchase of 16 units of supported and decommissioned F-16s that Poland ordered from the United States,

[blackcat]

The girls are dancing interestingly, “However, according to Kyiv, permission to supply fighters has already been received, they just can’t decide which aircraft to supply to Ukraine,” so where will we make the waist? What aircraft will they train on if it is not clear what they will deliver? Not just pilots, but generalists...

[Alexander Terentyev]

There are no military pilots in Ukraine, much less those with the qualities of fighter pilots. All of them were destroyed long ago during air battles with Russian aces. Only cadets of the first two years of the military school remained, and those wishing to transfer from the cockpits of Boeing civil aviation. All of them, appearing in the skies of Ukraine on foreign fighters, will be tempting targets for Russian Su-35S, Su-30SM, MiG-35. And it will definitely be their first and last meeting with the Su-57 or MiG-31..