Illustrated story about the hunting of noble ladies from a medieval castle

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Illustrated story about the hunting of noble ladies from a medieval castle
So our ladies got bored and decided to go hunting. Miniature from the Taymouth Book of Hours, 1325-1350. South East of England, British Library, London


“She held her left arm bent at the elbow, covered with a scarlet velvet glove, and on her hand sat a small brown falcon, disheveled and soiled, and the woman stroked and caressed him as she walked.”
"White Company" by Arthur Conan Doyle

History and culture. Middle Ages. What did women do in the Middle Ages? Of course, their occupations were connected with their social position, and if one took care of the pigs, then the other sat at the window in the castle and listened to the singing of the minstrel. Well, when she didn’t listen, what activities and entertainment could she have? By the way, talking about the "women's activities" of the Middle Ages will not only be very interesting and instructive, but will also become a tribute to the readers of our site. And the fact that we are all about men, but about men ... But the role of women in society at all times has been exceptionally great, simply because of the masculine nature of our society, it is still not sufficiently disclosed. Therefore, today we will deal with this topic. Moreover, based on the mass of beautiful illustrations from Teymouth's Book of Hours, published in England around 1325-1335. Well, it was named after Teymouth Castle, where it was preserved after the Earl of Bridalbane bought it either in the XNUMXth or in the XNUMXth century. Then Henry Yeats Thompson, the owner of an extensive collection of illustrated medieval manuscripts, became the owner of the Book of Hours, which he sold or donated as his posthumous gift to the British Library. So today this manuscript is kept in the British Library's Manuscripts Department in the Yeats Thompson Collection, where, by the way, everyone can get acquainted with it today, since it is digitized!



Recall that the books of hours were collections of prayers and usually contained psalms, prayers and corresponding illustrations explaining them. They resembled the Psalter in content, but were more concise in form and, in addition, were of a more secular nature. That is, it was possible not only to pray on them, but also, as in the modern calendar, to subtract something interesting from them. This Book of Hours also includes illustrated stories about Bevis of Hampton and Guy of Warwick, and under the Matins of the Virgin Mary somehow turned out to be as many as fifteen scenes with a story about a girl kidnapped by ... a wild man! That's really, really, a combination of "something else"!

And here there is almost a whole story in illustrations, telling how noble ladies from castles entertained themselves with hunting, an occupation that seemed to be purely masculine, but, as we will see in the future, very popular with women too!

Recall that women, representatives of the nobility, could hunt, and no one forbade them to do so. However, it was fitting for a noble lady to hunt with a bird of prey. By the way, let us once again recall the hierarchy of birds of prey, which were allowed in the Middle Ages to have representatives of different classes of society.

So, the emperor could hunt with an eagle, the Irish gyrfalcon was appointed the royal bird, princes and lords in England consoled themselves with hunting with a peregrine falcon, the baron was assigned a buzzard, the "knight of one shield" - a saker, and his squire could hunt with a lanner. Noble ladies, depending on their country of residence, could hunt with a gyrfalcon or a hawk. But the peasants were not so offended either: a free English peasant was allowed to hunt with a goshawk, a priest could indulge in hunting with a sparrowhawk, and even a serf, a serf, and he could quite legally hunt with a kestrel!

That is, the ladies from the castle had every right to have fun hunting with birds of prey. And they used it, but how ... but at the same time they did not deny themselves the pleasure of hunting with a bow and arrows, and even with common snares. Well, about how it all looked exactly at that time far from us, let us be told by the miniatures from the Taymouth Hours manuscript, 1325-1350. South East of England, British Library, London.


And they rode in a saddle (chair, knightly and very comfortable) quite like a man, and one of them shot a bow straight from a horse!


They also had hounds with which they poisoned hares


Having obtained game with the help of a dog, she was necessarily given her insides


Dogs of different breeds were used, and, like birds of prey, a bell was tied around their neck so that they could be found by sound


When hunting rabbits, the main thing was to drive them out of the hole!


Having obtained a lot of tasty animals, it was possible to return


And you could put snares near the hole ... Run a dog into the hole ...


And now the rabbit is beating in the snares. The peasants, by the way, hunted in exactly the same way, only they launched into the rabbit hole not a dog, but ... a weasel!


But the ladies knew how to use a bow!


The miniature clearly shows that the arrow has a blunt tip. That is, they shot right in the head. And the question is - why? It takes place in the summer, the skin is not suitable for fur. That is, it was specially conceived so as not to spoil the prey with the sight of blood? Interesting…


And then they knitted like this. Clean, pretty...


And the stupid rabbit did not expect that he would also be hunted with a bird of prey. Which, by the way, sits on a portable perch, which, after the lady, was carried by her falconer


Apparently, the rabbit managed to avoid the danger (or it has already been successfully hunted), so the lady releases the gyrfalcon to the duck!


Here the end of the duck has come!


Having caught a duck, the proud huntress returns with prey


And loyally offers prey to a senior lady in position ... And she graciously answers: “Take it for yourself, dear!”. Such ostentatious mercy was characteristic of the gentlemen. Smart, of course!


Here our ladies met an evil boar in the forest. And in the medieval forests at that time there were wild boars, wolves, and bears. And although there were no men nearby, the boar had a hard time at all. This fragile-looking woman took, and stuffed a horn into his throat!


Moreover, with the joint efforts of the ladies-hunters, they even killed a deer (apparently, with an arrow from a bow, and more than one!) And they began to gut and skin one of them

Only the picture is missing: “Tired, but satisfied and with booty, the ladies returned to their castle!”

True, one more question remains, which historical science is not able to solve, namely: who patronized the production of this "Book of Hours" of a clearly feminist orientation or owned it? According to one suggestion, the patroness of the creator of this manuscript was the "French Wolf" Isabella of France, the wife of Edward II, herself, or that this book could be written for one of their daughters, say, Joan of Tower, as an instruction.

It is possible that the original alleged owner of the manuscript was Philippa of Hainaut, wife of Edward III, son of Isabella and Edward II. The fact is that in addition to the quality of the illustrations, gold leaf was used for its design, which directly indicates the aristocratic origin of the customer or customer. It is known that Philippa in October 1331 paid the artist Richard of Oxford for two Books of Hours at once. So one of them could very well have been the Book of Hours from Teymouth! In addition, some of the miniatures have bilingual inscriptions, including inscriptions in Middle English, Latin and French, although the bulk of the texts are written in Anglo-Norman. And during this period of time in England, Anglo-Norman was most often spoken by the wealthy and royal families.
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  1. +8
    3 November 2022 05: 31
    Thank you, Vyacheslav Olegovich!

    Immediately questions in the course of reading: who are Saker and lanner?
    1. +8
      3 November 2022 05: 49
      Saker - balaban (Russian), lanner - Mediterranean falcon.
      1. +5
        3 November 2022 08: 23
        Thank you, Anton!
        Now it is clear.

        Saker falcon is now very rare.
        1. +6
          3 November 2022 08: 39
          Contact Sergey!
          I'll be honest, I knew about the lanner, I spied on Wikipedia about the sacker.
          1. +4
            3 November 2022 08: 46
            Certainly. There is a system, but there are details.

            Hunting, for example, is one of the manifestations of the way.
          2. +11
            3 November 2022 09: 11
            Quote: 3x3zsave
            knew about lanner, about sacker - spied on Wikipedia

            I didn't know about either one.
            But if I have a bird for hunting, I will have a crow, or rather a few. What do I need these hares and other ducks with foxes? My crows will hunt directly for money, gold, silver and other liquid goods, such as flash drives and other gadgets.
            And if they notice, then I can break in accomplices, but they can’t me. The main thing is not to admit to yourself that it was I who taught them and trained them, but they certainly won’t tell. smile
            1. +7
              3 November 2022 09: 25
              I didn't know about either one.

              Me too. I even thought that a sacker is someone very indecent (if you imagine the English spelling). what Thank God, we have Anton savvy in the Middle Ages. Yes
              My crows will hunt directly for money, gold, silver and other liquid goods, such as flash drives and other gadgets.

              Somewhere I have already heard it ... Reminded me of the words of the Innocent from "Garage"! laughing

              - In India, monkeys collect coconuts. And my macaques in the Siberian taiga will collect pine cones, peel them, put them in boxes, you know ...

              In principle, you have a ready-made business plan, Michael! request
              1. +8
                3 November 2022 10: 02
                As children, we once declared war on crows for pecking out the eyes of little puppies. Puppies, of course, died. So, the boys and I declared a vendetta against the crows and began to smash their nests, beat them with slingshots, etc. What we just didn’t find in the nests ... Mirrors, spoons, chains, glasses, brooches, hairpins - in short, everything that somehow glares in the sun.
                Thieves are still those. smile
                1. +5
                  3 November 2022 10: 34
                  Mirrors, spoons, chains, glasses, brooches, hairpins - in short, everything that somehow glares in the sun. Thieves are still those.

                  Something reminds either the expropriation of the expropriators, or just a pogrom. laughing
                  Maybe you will still get macaques? These are also good at squeezing clothes and other tsatski from tourists and other gaping ones. wink There will be a separate breed - "Luga frost-resistant macaque" laughing All the sellers in the market will be afraid of you - just let the flock off the leash! angry

                  1. +6
                    3 November 2022 11: 22
                    Macaque is impossible. Everyone will know that such people live with me and my enterprise will lose its meaning - all losses will be charged to them and they will come to me for a search. Fuck off.
                    And crows are commonplace, familiar.
                    I am a free bird, where I want - I fly there ...
                    Where do I want? Where am I flying?

                    Until they are hunted down, until they get to me, years can pass. By that time, I may already be living in New Zealand.
                    1. +6
                      3 November 2022 11: 28
                      And crows are commonplace, familiar.

                      Tricky, however!
                      By that time, I may already be living in New Zealand.

                      Why not Tahiti? Not on Pitcairn Island? Not in Rio de Janeiro, where everyone is wearing white pants? lol
                      1. +6
                        3 November 2022 11: 35
                        Quote: Pane Kohanku
                        Why not Tahiti?

                        Yesterday my wife and I decided to remember our youth and started watching The Lord of the Rings translated by Goblin.
                        So now I know for sure - in New Zealand live pure little ones and there are no McDonald's. I think I'll like it there.
                      2. +5
                        3 November 2022 11: 40
                        Yesterday my wife and I decided to remember our youth and started watching The Lord of the Rings translated by Goblin.

                        After Anton posted the main hobbit on the forum? Without the Goblin, I would not have pulled to see a single part, but with him - very good.
                        So now I know for sure - in New Zealand live pure little ones and there are no McDonald's. I think I'll like it there.

                        "Real ghouls" but live there. Didn't look? Honorable movie! laughing
                      3. +4
                        3 November 2022 11: 50
                        Quote: Pane Kohanku
                        Honorable movie!

                        In my opinion, he tried to look ... Apparently it didn’t work. I need something fun...
                      4. +5
                        3 November 2022 11: 42
                        Would you suggest Jamaica! )))
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                      5. +6
                        3 November 2022 11: 45
                        The text of your comment is too short and in the opinion of the site administration does not carry useful information.

                        The feeling that you are reading the "Miranda rule" to me ... laughing

                        - You are under arrest, you have the right to remain silent, anything you say can be used against you...
                        - Naked woman!
                        - What - "naked woman" ???
                        - Use a naked woman against me!
            2. +5
              3 November 2022 09: 49
              But if I have a bird for hunting, I will have a crow, or rather a few.
              O'dean weeps with envy!
              1. +6
                3 November 2022 10: 04
                Cry more - pee less. However, one eye does not cry much, dehydration does not threaten him. smile
            3. +5
              3 November 2022 10: 08
              Quote: Trilobite Master
              My crows will hunt directly for money, gold, silver and other liquid goods, such as flash drives and other gadgets.

              Maybe forty is better? they say the most thieving .. hi
              1. +5
                3 November 2022 11: 29
                There are two reasons why not magpies. Even three.
                1. Magpie is stupid and teaching her to carry what needs to be more difficult.
                2. It’s not enough to drag away, you need to bring it where you need it.
                3. I like crows purely aesthetically more. They have more melodic voices.
                smile
                1. +6
                  3 November 2022 11: 37
                  Quote: Trilobite Master
                  1. Magpie is stupid and teaching her to carry what needs to be more difficult.

                  Well, I don’t know, they were smart enough to “surrender” the boyar Kuchka, I suppose also for money.
                  At my dacha, I regularly observe the Soyko-Sorochinsky wars: the jays "roof" our site, but magpies periodically try to invade it: such air battles sometimes begin - real "dog dumps" laughing
                  1. +3
                    3 November 2022 11: 41
                    Well, I don’t know, they were smart enough to “surrender” the boyar Kuchka, I suppose also for money.

                    Sergey, in more detail, please - how did the magpies hand over the Kuchka? belay
                    1. +5
                      3 November 2022 11: 44
                      Quote: Pane Kohanku
                      Sergey, in more detail, please - how did the magpies hand over the Kuchka?

                      The legend says that Stepan Kuchko gave out a magpie to the killers, pointing with his chirping to the dense thickets in which he tried to hide from death. Dying, the boyar cursed the magpie for all time, and since then magpies have practically not been found in Moscow. And Chistye Prudy, where this sinister story took place, was called Pogany for a long time after that - according to one version, just because the murderers threw the dead body of the boyar to the bottom of the pond.
                      1. +9
                        3 November 2022 11: 50
                        And Chistye Prudy, where this sinister story took place, was called Pogany for a long time after that - according to one version, just because the murderers threw the dead body of the boyar to the bottom of the pond.

                        Moscow's lack of spirituality is immediately visible! We would have thrown him in the right way, in parts ... what
                      2. +4
                        3 November 2022 11: 52
                        Quote: Pane Kohanku
                        We would have thrown him in the right way, in parts ...

                        And always near the investigative committee - "investigative hut" if the old fashioned way. wassat
                      3. +3
                        3 November 2022 13: 41
                        And always near the investigative committee - "investigative hut" if the old fashioned way.

                        I'll change the subject a bit. I wonder when Porkhov will be restored? The fortress there is beautiful, but the condition is alas. recourse Although it was written on the banners that in November. Something suspicious to me! what
                      4. +4
                        3 November 2022 13: 56
                        Quote: Pane Kohanku
                        I wonder when Porkhov will be restored? The fortress there is beautiful, but the condition is alas.

                        I think I will finish it soon, it would be nice if they took up Koporye
                      5. +3
                        3 November 2022 14: 12
                        I think I will finish it soon, it would be nice if they took up Koporye

                        At the end of August, Porkhov's condition was very poor.
                      6. +3
                        3 November 2022 14: 14
                        Quote: Pane Kohanku
                        At the end of August, Porkhov's condition was very poor.

                        One wall was made there, it seems even two.
                      7. +4
                        3 November 2022 19: 17
                        One wall was made there, it seems even two.

                        Yes, but there the rest of the walls and towers are overgrown with trees! The structure of the fortress resembles Koporye, because the section along Shelon is not fortified with towers. Simply storming across the river is not comme il faut, unless it is the Oreshek fortress.
                        There should be at least two museums in the Porkhov fortress, they are now closed. One of them is the house of the caretaker of the fortress, who was the leader of the underground during the war. Only the central alley is open for excursions, the rest is overgrown. But the cathedral still works! (sarcasm, don't want to hurt anyone's feelings).
                        I don't think they'll finish soon...
                        They let you in Koporye. But by the hour. You can go with any group. The fate of the only historical gersa (lifting lattice) in the North-West is unknown.
                        In general, Porkhov struck with a disgusting hotel and a poorly restored fortress. We visited the site of the dulag... The Germans tortured tens of thousands of our prisoners of war there.
                        But, as they turned from Pskov to Porkhov, drove twenty kilometers, a spectacle - a fox sits right in the middle of the road! I honked, lazily left. But the downed foxes are lying around the edges of the track - and you can’t count them. Silly...
                      8. +5
                        3 November 2022 18: 12
                        And Chistye Prudy, where this sinister story took place, was called Pogany for a long time after that - according to one version, just because the murderers threw the dead body of the boyar to the bottom of the pond.
                        During the time of the boyar Kuchka, these ponds did not exist at all, all of Moscow was located in the Kremlin and Kitay-gorod. The ponds were called filthy, like, in the XNUMXth century, after butcher shops were set up nearby, all illiquid assets were lowered there. And only under Catherine the shops were removed, the ponds were cleaned, and they called them "Clean".
                      9. +2
                        3 November 2022 21: 55
                        And only under Catherine the benches were removed, the ponds were cleaned, and they called them "Clean".

                        Sergei, when my "beloved" Pal Petrovich arrived in Moscow at the end of the 18th century, already being Emperor, he was served carps from local ponds. Fish ... well, it smelled a little .. recourse Pavel did not punish anyone, but simply ordered to clean the ponds! drinks
                        That's the whole story about the "degenerate on the throne", which was originally written by the regicides themselves, and then the official, first tsarist, then Soviet historiography picked up with pleasure! request
                      10. +1
                        3 November 2022 22: 46
                        I don’t really know anything about Pal Petrovich, except for officialdom, but somehow I can’t believe that the emperor is served fish from a fragrant Moscow reservoir. Unless it was such a thick trolling of him. Moreover, the ponds were cleaned even by his mother. The fish was supplied to the royal table by the inhabitants of the villages living on the Moskva River from the Borovsky barrow (along which Kutuzov led the troops from the Ryazan road), and approximately to Bronnitsy. I got the book "The Land of Ramensky", written by the museum worker Averyanova on the basis of materials from the archive. The materials are mainly of economic content - the population, crop yields, who owns the villages, etc. Everything concerns the Ramensky district of the Moscow region, starting with the will of Dmitry Donskoy's grandson, which he left when he left for the Horde to get a label. Surely such data is available for all regions of the Republic of Ingushetia. Now I can’t dig up a book, I remember that it was written there that the village of "Fishermen" (still exists) was supposed to supply annually some pikes, perches, and someone else.
                      11. 0
                        5 November 2022 19: 50
                        Quote: Aviator_
                        Moreover, the ponds were cleaned even by his mother.

                        But not under Menshikov?
                      12. 0
                        5 November 2022 20: 40
                        But not under Menshikov?
                        Like, under Catherine II. We must look at Gilyarovsky, in his classic book "Moscow and Muscovites".
                  2. +7
                    3 November 2022 11: 45
                    The boyar was handed over and they will hand me over. laughing What for such accomplices?
                    Quote: Mihaylov
                    such air battles sometimes begin

                    Yes, they can. And yell at the same time as the victims. One-on-one jays will probably be cooler, but magpies are better organized, they have tactics and interaction ...
                    On Sokolye Lakes, I constantly watch air battles between real aces, one might say, representatives of the major league - falcons against ravens. Here is a spectacle!
                    1. +6
                      3 November 2022 11: 49
                      Quote: Trilobite Master
                      one-on-one oiks will probably be cooler, but magpies are better organized, they have tactics and interaction ...

                      The jays are quite organized for themselves: you see one has arrived, then the second, and so on, up to six pieces are collected, which means there will be a "removable fight" and, as a rule, you see they drove forty. Once I only saw how several forty drove one jay, for some reason that day she was alone. hi
                      1. +6
                        3 November 2022 12: 26
                        Well, their fights really look like a "dog dump". From the side of the jays, it’s like that in general - beat, run, yell louder, as it seems to me. smile
                        But the fighting of ravens against falcons is already a military art. smile
                        Altitude separation, tail cover, successive attacks on the same target by different birds, ignoring the rest ... Moreover, falcons, at most, fly in pairs, while crows can gather up to a dozen ... And what speeds, what aerobatics ...
                        smile
                      2. +2
                        3 November 2022 19: 12
                        Mdaaaa ... it turns out that within the Moscow Ring Road, even birds share a place under the sun.
                        I saw the hunting of the Hawk and the Falcon, but, alas, I did not observe the battles of crows, magpies and jays.
                        With magpies with the larch sun, I live in a tough confrontation over strawberries. They devour it, I took the shot. Some fragile neutrality was outlined only this year. Surprisingly, the bird tribe did not encroach on my beds, and I did not encroach on their lives. So we live, you can’t call this field stupid.
                  3. +4
                    3 November 2022 15: 06
                    In our arboretum today we had a showdown between jays and crows. Jays are beauties.
                    1. +4
                      3 November 2022 15: 10
                      Quote from Korsar4
                      Jays are beauties.

                      Yes, a very beautiful bird and they just live in the trees next to our site and control it. They even wanted to call it "Soykina Dacha".
                      I remember reading on the Internet such a phrase about jays: "A beautiful, but very shy bird." But when they eat strawberries from my garden, they are not afraid of anything at all. hi
                      1. 0
                        7 November 2022 11: 33
                        I remember meeting a mention that Anna Komnina wrote a treatise on hunting with a crossbow and a bow, I don’t remember the year.
                        Quote: Mihaylov
                        very shy bird

                        Once my wife and I went to buy rose seedlings in a nursery near Solnechnogorsk, a few kilometers to the left from the station. In a hefty greenhouse near us, a magpie took off, Irinka got scared and squealed. Magpie fell dead after 10 meters of flight, and the saleswoman sat on a rosehip bush. Went up to the magpie - no visible wounds. Then they untangled the saleswoman from the thorns, and did not perform an autopsy of the magpie.
            4. +9
              3 November 2022 10: 56
              crows will prey directly on money
              The poor boys of Victorian England climbed into the nests of crows / forty in the central parks of London - one earring found there, dropped by a rich lady (or other similar trinket) could feed the lucky one for at least a month.
    2. +4
      3 November 2022 07: 54
      Quote from Korsar4
      who are Saker

      Well, there are other options from English Newspeak ... And also, who Beavis is ... Butt-head, sorry, not mentioned)))
      And so - the topic is interesting, but with a horn and a pig, it seems to me, they lied in the hour book ... A horn, such that the pig is not broken, to drag through the forest - hmm ... Any man will run out of steam, but she still needs to wield, like - then direct, even resting on the ground ...
      1. +3
        3 November 2022 18: 36
        Quote from Bingo
        Quote from Korsar4
        who are Saker

        Well, there are other options from English Newspeak ... And also, who Beavis is ... Butt-head, sorry, not mentioned)))
        And so - the topic is interesting, but with a horn and a pig, it seems to me, they lied in the hour book ... A horn, such that the pig is not broken, to drag through the forest - hmm ... Any man will run out of steam, but she still needs to wield, like - then direct, even resting on the ground ...

        I don’t remember which of the classics wrote - “most of all they lie about war and hunting.”
        1. +2
          3 November 2022 18: 50
          Attributed to Bismarck. But we found out that they just didn’t attribute anything to him.
          1. +4
            3 November 2022 19: 07
            Soon Bismarck will be credited with the poems of Agnia Barto.
            1. +3
              3 November 2022 19: 55
              Agnia Barto's poems have been learned by us since childhood. So you can be calm for her.
              1. +4
                3 November 2022 20: 05
                Yes. The words about the Prussian teacher, we learned in our youth, the most fertile time for the formation of a worldview. Meanwhile, Bismarck did not say them, but only quoted them, moreover, in a negative context.
        2. +1
          8 November 2022 08: 18
          Fishing is also not far behind ... By the way, some abbess from England also wrote an instruction to noble ladies on fishing, mainly on a fly ... You can also look specifically for who and when ...
          It was written back in 1496 by a beautiful lady, abbess Juliana Berners, as an addition to a book about hunting.
  2. +10
    3 November 2022 05: 57
    Christmas trees, we have a new format here! Comics drinks Well, I liked it!
    Probably, it is not necessary to hit the head with a blunt arrow - horns beat rabbits, armadillos - it is enough to hit the body.
    Dogs with bells!? They didn't bark?
    1. +6
      3 November 2022 06: 06
      Quote: Tlauicol
      Dogs with bells!? They didn't bark?

      Don't know. It was written about bells. About barking - no!
      1. +2
        3 November 2022 06: 43
        It’s especially useful to look on Google which dogs don’t bark)). Maybe some dirhound? Can't attach photos
        1. +5
          3 November 2022 09: 28
          It’s especially useful to look on Google which dogs don’t bark)). Maybe some dirhound?

          Basenji. But this breed is African. request And it is unlikely that she was known in Europe of the 13th century. drinks
          1. +2
            3 November 2022 10: 12
            https://images.prismic.io/doge/1f104504-cc4f-4639-a153-8caa450df6ff_dirhaund_3.jpg?auto=compress,format&rect=31,0,639,639&w=456&h=456
            Here is the dirhound. I don't know how old they are
          2. Fat
            +5
            3 November 2022 10: 13
            hi Good day. Greetings Nikolay.
            Greyhounds bark very rarely. This is due to the fact that dogs were originally bred to run fast for prey, and at a speed of about 60 km / h there is simply no way to bark, there is simply neither strength nor time for this ...
            They pursue silently, according to the "sighted". So the bell is just right.
            List of "popular" breeds:
            Greyhound, Afghan Hound, Irish Wolfhound, Italian Greyhound, Russian Hound, Whippet, Hortaya, Pharaoh Hound. There are also a number of "local" breeds of greyhounds, but somehow they are not very "heard of".

            Russian hunting greyhound

            Greyhound
    2. +4
      3 November 2022 06: 08
      Quote: Tlauicol
      Christmas trees, we have a new format here! Comics

      By the way, I have an idea: to collect "pictures" from the manuscripts and, based on them, make a comic strip with the pictures of that time. I think it will be interesting.
      1. +4
        3 November 2022 09: 30
        By the way, I have an idea: to collect "pictures" from the manuscripts and, based on them, make a comic strip with the pictures of that time. I think it will be interesting.

        The German poet Wilhelm Busch with his "Max and Moritz" is considered the pioneer of the comic book. If you still make signatures in verses under the manuscripts, you will wash it completely. laughing
    3. +7
      3 November 2022 06: 41
      Quote: Tlauicol
      Well, I liked it!

      I, oddly enough, too, although I thought that I could not stand this genre. Apparently it's about the content... smile
  3. +4
    3 November 2022 06: 35
    "This fragile-looking woman took, and shoved a spear into his throat!" (C)
    Rogatin is a word of Russian origin.
    She couldn’t shove a horn, but a spear is easy.
    1. +5
      3 November 2022 08: 44
      If I'm not mistaken, this type of polearm in Europe was called the "winged spear".
      Hi Sasha!
      1. +3
        3 November 2022 08: 56
        Hello Anton! A spear, yes, but not a horn.
        1. +4
          3 November 2022 09: 50
          A spear is a common name for a specific type of polearm. All sorts of horns, pikes, sarissas, pilums and other darts are varieties of spears.
          What they are called in different languages, I think, is not so important, but in the picture the lady uses her weapon exactly like a horn - stepping on the shaft with her foot, pointing the tip towards the target and shashlychila pig self-propelled. smile
          However, I think that if the ladies really hunted the boar, and this beast is strong and ferocious, then certainly not alone. Even the knights did not dare to do this - too troublesome and dangerous business.
          1. +5
            3 November 2022 10: 52
            A crossbar is attached below the tip, which performs 1. The function of a stopper so that the wounded animal does not come close to the hunter and the second - the bear, grabbing the crossbar with its paws, seems to impale itself on a spear.
            Yes, a spear is a kind of spear.
          2. 0
            3 November 2022 20: 12
            Michael, purely theoretically, perhaps she is on a boar path, puts a spear at a certain angle, and then waits. When the boar deigns to be hired. I think it's quite plausible
      2. +6
        3 November 2022 09: 02
        Here is a horn

        There was an exhibition dedicated to hunting in the Gatchina Palace about 10 years ago.
        Well, it's just very interesting.
        After it I read Kutepov's book about hunting.
        Features of hunting in Rus' laughing
        1. +5
          3 November 2022 10: 03
          Quote: ee2100
          Here is a horn

          Greetings to Alexander!
          Here is the spear - Grand Duke of Tver Boris Alexandrovich (Grand Duke of Tver from 1426 to 1461.) Stored in the Armory. hi


          It even says - horn!
          1. +4
            3 November 2022 10: 11
            If I'm not mistaken, it's gilded
            The text of your comment is too short and according to the site administration
            1. +4
              3 November 2022 10: 18
              Quote: ee2100
              If I'm not mistaken, it's gilded

              “The horn of damask steel is red, the tulle is overlaid with carved gilded silver - grasses and people and birds are cut; on the tulle on the edge there are two lines signed: Rogatin of the Grand Duke Boris Alexandrovich.
              1. +3
                3 November 2022 10: 53
                There was also a price listed.
                Anton will be interested.
      3. +4
        3 November 2022 11: 15
        If you look for the exact equivalent of a spear as a weapon for hunting, then this is a bear spear - a bear spear. The wild boar was hunted with a boar spear - a boar spear. Also, in principle, a horn, but easier.
        1. +3
          3 November 2022 11: 47
          Surely the shape of the tip changed depending on the tasks, but the general concept of a piercing weapon with a stopping crosshair was preserved for 600-700 years.
          1. +2
            3 November 2022 14: 33
            the general concept of a stabbing weapon with a stopping crosshair persisted for 600-700 years.

            Science claims that this concept was established in the Bronze Age, that is, according to the most conservative estimates, it is more than 2500 years old. Documentary confirmation of the application of this concept is in Xenophon in Anabasis, in my opinion.
    2. +1
      3 November 2022 20: 08
      More precisely, she framed a spear, and the boar ran into.
      It’s not clear in the picture, but it’s unlikely that she was holding a spear in weight. Probably installed at a certain angle, and then the boar will do everything himself
  4. +6
    3 November 2022 06: 36
    I wonder who was hunted with a kestrel? On mice and earthworms? So you can tame a shrike))
    1. +6
      3 November 2022 07: 22
      Snipes, teals, starlings, nightingales, dormouse, and even ground squirrels. EVERYONE ate!
      1. +2
        3 November 2022 07: 56
        Quote: kalibr
        EVERYONE ate!

        Duc, European cuisine... Haggis, oxtail soup and other frog shells. In other words, leftovers and slop
        1. +4
          3 November 2022 08: 47
          Nanny and we ate. Sobakevich will not let you lie.
          1. +4
            3 November 2022 08: 58
            Well, all the same, Russian cuisine can be compared with delights, for example, French))) Such a highly cultured zhorevo is such a highly cultured zhorevo - buaybes soup, yeah ... Except that it was prepared from the remains of unsold fish by the evening))) And from the literature you can compare Irish stew, where they deliberated for a long time whether to put a rat there or not (Three in a boat) and Chekhov, "The Stupid Frenchman". "What kind of food is this? Pancakes..."
            1. +6
              3 November 2022 09: 00
              By the way, I have not tried buaybes.
              As for our ear, this is a phenomenon.
              1. +6
                3 November 2022 09: 21
                Good morning!
                At the Birzhevoy Bridge there is a float "Watercolor" where the best buaybes ate. Another good one in Helsinki at the Merimakasiini restaurant on the waterfront, not far from the port
            2. +6
              3 November 2022 09: 25
              Buaybes was never considered haute cuisine, it was originally the soup of the poor, as you correctly noted from unsold fish and other marine reptiles.
              Now they have made a cult dish out of it.
              1. +3
                3 November 2022 10: 09
                Quote: ee2100
                Buaybes has never been considered haute cuisine,

                What is a buaybes? hi
                1. +4
                  3 November 2022 10: 21
                  Zhorevo, classic for Western cuisine - eat what is left. Soup of the poor fishermen of Marseilles from the most natural fishing waste) Now a type of haute cuisine dish. They have it so forever, with eels or oysters the same thing - the last homeless people eat))) Now the show-off is louder than the ringing of bells
                  1. +5
                    3 November 2022 10: 23
                    Quote from Bingo
                    Zhorevo, classic for Western cuisine - eat what is left.

                    Clearly: "Irish stew"! hi
                2. +5
                  3 November 2022 10: 44
                  Soup of fish and other marine reptiles. As I read, the birthplace of Marseille. Everything that did not go on sale after the catch was sent to a vat, where it was cooked for days without interruption. A specially trained person, as needed, added water, fish, and so on ad infinitum.
                  1. +2
                    3 November 2022 12: 00
                    Quote: ee2100
                    Soup of fish and other marine reptiles.

                    Didn't get to try. hi
                    1. +3
                      3 November 2022 12: 05
                      You can be envied! Everything is ahead! Pretty tasty.
                  2. +2
                    3 November 2022 15: 10
                    Was in Marseille. Passed by. But he ate something else. However, there was no task to collect a collection of food, and not yet.
                    1. +2
                      3 November 2022 19: 02
                      Collecting a collection of food is seboritism!
                      But sometimes nice and tasty!
                      I wasn’t in Marseille, they dissuaded me, like you didn’t see the Arabs?
                      Although now I would wind up for a day.
                      1. +1
                        3 November 2022 19: 56
                        Port city - he is a port city. But there are nice places nearby.
                      2. +2
                        3 November 2022 19: 59
                        I have a friend next to me, Nita, who has worked for more than 10 years. He called everything, but not fate
                      3. +1
                        3 November 2022 21: 17
                        You won't be everywhere. Although sometimes it clicks in your head - and you find yourself.
                        As Chatsky said: "And he did not go around a hundredth."
            3. +6
              3 November 2022 10: 14
              Shibko is such a highly cultured zhorevo - buaybes soup


              "In the tavern of Trena bouillabaisse -
              Not soup, but a miracle of miracles.
              It contains sea food, greens, herbs,
              Roots, spices, seasonings."
              George Du Maurier, Trilby.
      2. +7
        3 November 2022 07: 59
        Remarkably, the beaver was considered a fish. Accordingly, its meat could be eaten on fasting days.
        1. +5
          3 November 2022 08: 26
          So they were taken out.

          And now we have a different picture - divorced.

          Like the story with the bear in "The Same Munchausen".
          1. +3
            3 November 2022 15: 15
            Like the story with the bear in "The Same Munchausen".


            Do you mean that? smile



            "- And when the bear rushed at him, Mr. Baron grabbed him by the front paws and held him until he died.
            - What did he die of?
            - From hunger. The bear, as you know, feeds on sucking its paw, and since Mr. Baron deprived him of this opportunity ... "(c)
            1. +3
              3 November 2022 17: 23
              No. From the movie:

              - Damp, dark, bears...
              You can go crazy! As if he does not know that all the bears have long since died out.
              And by the way, Baron, I have long wanted to ask you, where did you actually get the bears?
              - I don't remember. I think in the forest.
              - No, this is impossible. They haven't been with us for a long time.
              - We need to talk.
              - No, well, they’ve come, huh? We've come! We steal bears from gypsies!
              But they were, they were ... Literally the birthplace of bears. Now this is a problem too.
              - You are not up to me now. Exactly at midnight at the monument.
              - Correctly.
              Carl, Carl, I'm very lonely without you. I have no one to talk to or consult with.
              - I think it's a bear.
              - God bless him. We do not know how to appreciate friends in life.
              We understand their meaning only when they leave us.
              “Then I will leave.
              - And we fuss, rush about. What is it for? What is it for? It just didn't get you.
              Pshel! Have bred.
              1. +3
                3 November 2022 18: 21
                We've come! We steal bears from gypsies!


                Well, it’s not all the same for them to rob normal people. wink

                1. +2
                  3 November 2022 18: 45
                  There is a funny episode from the modern film "The Hare Above the Abyss", where Brezhnev, as a matchmaker, comes to the gypsy baron. And in case of refusal, it allows the possibility of "officially recognizing the Gypsies as Romanians, as well as the indigenous inhabitants of Siberia" (c).
                  1. +3
                    3 November 2022 19: 33
                    Not about gypsies, but not bad:

                    "I have a letter from the Housing Office,
                    There you turned to me,
                    They offer space to Siberia,
                    Instead of Moscow taken with battle. "(c)))))))))))))))
                    1. +2
                      3 November 2022 19: 59
                      Do not swear from evil longing, today you are drunk without alcohol, -
                      The last caravan left for the mainland, for Magadan.
                      1. +2
                        3 November 2022 20: 15

                        Let the wine splash, I drink, everything is not enough for me,
                        I drink everything is not enough for me, I have already become drunk,
                        I drink everything is not enough for me, I have already become drunk,
                        And the hall is spinning, and I drink everything I don't have enough,
                      2. +1
                        3 November 2022 21: 19
                        - And how much wine is left in this barrel?
                        - I think that half.
                      3. +2
                        3 November 2022 21: 27

                        Fifteen people on the dead man's chest,
                        Yo-ho-ho, and a bottle of rum!
                        Drink, and the devil will bring you to the end.
                        Yo-ho-ho, and a bottle of rum!
        2. +4
          3 November 2022 09: 33
          Remarkably, the beaver was considered a fish. Accordingly, its meat could be eaten on fasting days.

          EMNIP, some Pope, having learned about such cheating, even forbade glutton monks by a separate edict. laughing
        3. Fat
          +4
          3 November 2022 09: 45
          hi Hello Anton. Bobryatina IMHO rare rubbish dry, tasteless and bony meat - like fish, and weedy ... No. There is a friend - a hunter, treated the stew. Although it is quite possible that they just cooked stupidly.
          1. +5
            3 November 2022 10: 12
            There is a friend - a hunter, treated the stew. Although it is quite possible that they just cooked stupidly.

            I don’t know, my colleague was a hunter, he said so - they say, the most delicious thing he ate from game was beaver cutlets. Apparently they are well prepared! drinks
            1. +4
              3 November 2022 10: 33
              A man is not a pig - he will eat everything! Yes
              Quote: Pan Kohanku
              There is a friend - a hunter, treated the stew. Although it is quite possible that they just cooked stupidly.

              I don’t know, my colleague was a hunter, he said so - they say, the most delicious thing he ate from game was beaver cutlets. Apparently they are well prepared! drinks
              1. +4
                3 November 2022 10: 36
                A man is not a pig - he will eat everything!

                He said it was really delicious. Yes
            2. +3
              3 November 2022 10: 41
              Quote: Pane Kohanku
              I don’t know, my colleague was a hunter, he said so - they say, the most delicious thing he ate from game was beaver cutlets. Apparently they are well prepared!

              They say the game is not tasty! I was once treated to wild boar lard: I have never eaten lard tastier! hi
              1. +2
                3 November 2022 10: 47
                They say the game is not tasty! I was once treated to wild boar lard: I have never eaten lard tastier!

                I don't think I've tried anything at all. In Vyborg there is a restaurant "Medved" - there six years ago you could order a game dish (according to the season, subject to availability). It was expensive. But I didn't order.
                1. +6
                  3 November 2022 12: 56
                  Now you can even buy stew from beaver, bear, deer blood for frying. Any game meat in such restaurants is deliciously prepared, but of course it is expensive.
                  Once my father ordered raw deer liver. Well, I also tried it - it tastes and smells like raw liver
                  1. +3
                    3 November 2022 13: 39
                    Now even beaver stew

                    From an elk I saw on sale, but did not try.
                    Once my father ordered raw deer liver. Well, I also tried it - it tastes and smells like raw liver

                    Ivan, isn't that dangerous? No, just asked. You never know, some kind of parasites, or something else ... drinks
                    1. +3
                      3 November 2022 13: 58
                      Quote: Pane Kohanku
                      From the elk saw for sale

                      Somehow, through friends, I bought frozen elk fillet in pieces of about half a kilo, baked in the oven, I thought it would be tough meat, but it turned out to be much softer than beef. hi
                    2. +3
                      3 November 2022 14: 06
                      I hope no. I suspect it was a farm-raised deer. Freezing like splitting fish.
                      I also remembered how, as a child, blood was fried "in spill" in a frying pan. Not bad
                  2. +4
                    3 November 2022 14: 17
                    A familiar beaver specialist. The stew is good. The beaver stream is flying in, and the problem is with the skins. He gets up to 80 beavers per season, but there is no demand for the skin. laughing
                    1. Fat
                      +2
                      3 November 2022 14: 34
                      Hello Alexander. You just need to know who to offer laughing
                      Beaver fur is one of the best materials for tying dry flies, especially very small flies. The fur does not absorb water, and the dubbing made from beaver is suitable even for dry flies of 22-24 numbers. The awn of beaver fur is also useful for making tails and legs of nymphs.
                      Beaver fur Wapsi Beaver can be bought in the online store at a price of 200 rubles
                      . (200 rubles - this is for a piece of skin 6x8 cm)
                      It is possible to provide all fly-fishers of the Russian Federation with beaver fur. smile
                      These are not your problems, but your friend's.
                      1. +3
                        3 November 2022 18: 48
                        The problem is that the fur is in Estonia. I saw cool fur
                      2. Fat
                        +2
                        3 November 2022 19: 26
                        Fishing is international. Finnish-French Rapala VMC wobblers are made in Estonia... Northern Europe is full of fly-fishers. If desired, in this sector you can find a company that will be happy to purchase skins for the needs of European anglers. In general, it is surprising that Russian wholesale companies buy materials for baits in Europe, although it is reasonable to establish their own production.
                        It's always like this in Russia: until a roasted rooster pecks in a sore spot, a peasant doesn't cross himself...
                      3. +3
                        3 November 2022 19: 41
                        The fact of the matter is that the main consumers of the lace were the Russians, and now laughing zilch
            3. +4
              3 November 2022 11: 02
              the tastiest thing I've ever eaten
              I wholeheartedly share this opinion. Yes . And not dry, on the contrary, it is oily as for me.
              1. +4
                3 November 2022 11: 24
                I wholeheartedly share this opinion. And not dry, on the contrary, it is oily as for me.

                That is, the beaver only needs to be properly prepared! Yes
                1. +3
                  3 November 2022 11: 28
                  Most likely yes, stew with potatoes and everything. In addition, by the autumn he will certainly be fatter - he makes reserves of fat for the winter.
                  1. +4
                    3 November 2022 11: 34
                    Most likely yes, stew with potatoes and everything. In addition, by the autumn he will certainly be fatter - he makes reserves of fat for the winter.

                    Something we are all discussing so deliciously that you already want to eat ... what
                    Moreover, yesterday I looked at Oblomov about potatoes with meat - I really wanted to! Yes
                  2. +5
                    3 November 2022 11: 40
                    Quote: Bolt Cutter
                    Most likely yes, stew with potatoes and everything. In addition, by the autumn he will certainly be fatter - he makes reserves of fat for the winter.

                2. +7
                  3 November 2022 15: 05
                  Actually, you need to be more careful with the beaver. laughing



                  Hi, Nikolay! drinks
                  1. +3
                    3 November 2022 19: 21
                    Hi, Nikolay!

                    Hello Uncle Kostya! In Belarus, a few years ago, there was a case - two tipsy "gramadzyan" saw a beaver, began to dig into the poor well-fed animal, he did not appreciate the noble communication - he dug into one in the thigh. He bit through an artery, and the Chuchepos expired instantly to death. As the saying goes, don't touch wild animals... request They won't understand! hi
                    1. +3
                      3 November 2022 19: 37
                      don't touch wild animals...


                      Beavers... they're so interesting. smile

                      1. +2
                        3 November 2022 20: 13
                        Beavers... they're so interesting.

                        The most interesting video that I saw with a beaver was when a drunken Pole saw it. As you understand, I can’t publish it on the site, because it’s a Polish mate. request But the clairvoyant was clearly delighted with the animal he saw, and after that I know the Polish language in the required amount. laughing drinks
          2. +5
            3 November 2022 10: 28
            No. Nothing. Quite edible. However, my body absorbs everything.
          3. +3
            3 November 2022 14: 49
            Quote: Thick
            Although it is quite possible that they just cooked stupidly.

            Nutria is a swamp beaver. Very tasty!!! Ate for many years!
            1. +3
              3 November 2022 15: 06
              Nutria - marsh beaver
              Technically a South American semiaquatic rodent, it has little in common with beavers.
              1. +3
                3 November 2022 15: 13
                Quote: Bolt Cutter
                he has little in common with beavers.

                Well, they look similar, only the tails are completely different. There are very big ones. Meaty, red meat, drenched in fat. Very tasty roast. It’s a pity that now they are not bred in Penza and you can’t buy them.
        4. +1
          3 November 2022 19: 19
          Anton, a question from an honest half-Jew. Is the beaver a kosher fish?
      3. +6
        3 November 2022 08: 30
        Quote: kalibr
        Snipes, teals, starlings, nightingales, dormouse, and even ground squirrels. EVERYONE ate!

        Kestrel, nyaz, hunts ground prey. Although, she can also starling on a branch, and grab a lark in the grass. Apparently, the ladies were on a strict diet))
        1. +2
          3 November 2022 13: 38
          "on a strict diet" there are such fans among us. And some "grabbers" "feed" on us. Perhaps you remember in the program: "to live healthy" was: "lose excess." There was not a single woman who had not heard about: "Elena Malysheva's diet." A certified one cost more than a thousand, but there are "hacker" copies, in the worst case: a piece of paper and a pen. I had the original, a friend gave it for the night, but Lobanova, in order to manually rewrite. Therefore, I decided that I was far from 100 kg, which means I could manage
      4. +6
        3 November 2022 09: 02
        Quote: kalibr
        Snipes, teals, starlings, nightingales, dormouse, and even ground squirrels

        It sounds like the minutes of the meeting of the Komsomol committee, in which it is not clear how an incomprehensible Korean wormed his way. smile
        I read somewhere that the main prey of a hunter when hunting with a kestrel was pigeons. I remember that in nature the kestrel hunts mainly non-flying prey, and it itself is the size of the same pigeon, but, apparently, they were somehow trained specifically for pigeons.
        1. +6
          3 November 2022 09: 12
          Hi Michael!
          I tried the dove, somehow not very much. Or they didn't know how to cook. drinks just for beer
          1. +4
            3 November 2022 09: 53
            Greetings, Alexander.
            I have not tried pigeons. I don’t think I lost much, except for the sake of interest, to tick off ...
            1. +6
              3 November 2022 10: 09
              Pigeon eliminated for the sake of show
              The text of your comment is too short and according to the site administration
              1. +1
                3 November 2022 13: 21
                "does not contain useful information" (C)
                Is that what you wanted to say?
                1. +4
                  3 November 2022 14: 10
                  It's the site's administration that thinks so
            2. +3
              3 November 2022 10: 11
              Quote: Trilobite Master
              I haven't tried pigeons.

              Not tasty.
          2. +6
            3 November 2022 14: 58
            Sasha, good afternoon! smile
            You definitely didn't know how to cook them. In the nineties, together with my friend, we beat pigeons from two pneumatic guns in an abandoned cowshed. They came from different sides, closed the gates and started shooting. It was full of old grain and doves flocked to it. Usually shot from half a dozen to a dozen, carried home, wives plucked and cooked on a fire in a grate, like a barbecue. Popali, as a rule, under the "Royal", it was very tasty. drinks
            1. +5
              3 November 2022 15: 09
              under "Royal", it was very tasty
              For royalists, any snack is a joy Yes Grandfather at the elevator in their snares (pigeons laughing ) caught - delicious, as far as I remember. In England, they are also appreciated, not every butcher can buy it yet.
              1. +2
                3 November 2022 15: 21
                For royalists, any snack is a joy


                Well, thanks, did you write me down as drunks? angry
                1. +2
                  3 November 2022 15: 25
                  And what about drunks? I remember the piano was respected by all strata and classes of society, and not just drunks and musicians Yes He was also popular in Latvia.
                  1. +2
                    3 November 2022 15: 37
                    And what about drunks?

                    I don’t know, but as far as I remember this audience, it was for her that “any snack” was for the future, if at all there was something to eat.
                    And in our village shop, vodka was exclusively singed, so alcohol was taken from a trusted person who was responsible for every sip.
                    1. +3
                      3 November 2022 15: 41
                      in the village shop, vodka was exclusively singed


                      In the countryside, this is not a problem at all. Yes .
                      1. +3
                        3 November 2022 15: 52
                        It's true, many drove, some for themselves, some for sale, but I was too lazy to mess with it, I had money and it was easier to buy.
                      2. +3
                        3 November 2022 16: 11
                        I was too lazy to deal with it
                        This is a creative process. Yes I wonder if moonshiners have a muse?
                      3. +5
                        3 November 2022 16: 15
                        Quote: Bolt Cutter
                        I wonder if moonshiners have a muse?

                        Required! drinks
                      4. Fat
                        +5
                        3 November 2022 16: 32
                        hi Greetings. Moonshiners take care of all 9 muses. On Mount Helikon in Boeotia, sacred keys were beaten, sources of inspiration - Aganippus and Hippocrenes. Continuous functioning was ensured by the work of winemakers and moonshiners. Nice work! drinks Yes
                        Summary: The muse of moonshiners is the nymph of the stream Aganippa.
                      5. +3
                        3 November 2022 16: 33
                        Yes, of course, but the muse and their number depends on what is already taken for the collar. laughing drinks
                      6. +3
                        3 November 2022 16: 36
                        Quote: Sea Cat
                        Yes, of course, but the muse and their number depends on what is already taken for the collar.

                        Yesterday I read from a foreigner about Moscow in the 17th century: in the village of Izmailovo there was a royal country palace, in which there was a greenhouse where grapes were grown and the king (apparently he meant Alexei Mikhailovich) indulged in the fun of winemaking.
                        Kings also have hobbies. drinks
                      7. +4
                        3 November 2022 16: 49
                        Kings also have hobbies.

                        Well, anyway people... smile drinks
                      8. +5
                        3 November 2022 17: 27

                        ...Gods have hobbies -
                        tired of turning the worlds,
                        with a watering can, in a garden robe
                        grow violets!
            2. +3
              3 November 2022 19: 44
              Uncle Kostya, "Royal" I remember, and there was also: "Rasputin", it seems that he "winked"?
              My "baby" loved these ads. I was afraid that I would grow up and be an alcoholic.
              Fortunately, the fears were not justified, I drank a little: "Koktebel" sometimes, and so "Crimean port wine. How is it now?
              Our "ladies" veterans (one of those who have been waiting for an apartment since 1990.) They say that everyone there drinks "black". In fact, they are vicious and love all the negativity.
              I called him several times. Says there's no time to drink
              1. +1
                3 November 2022 20: 19
                Well, "Krymsky" and I respect, respected before, especially red. smile drinks
                1. +1
                  4 November 2022 08: 46
                  And he drank red. There are still 5 bottles at home
                  1. 0
                    4 November 2022 08: 51
                    Good to hear, man of taste. smile drinks
                    1. 0
                      4 November 2022 09: 47
                      I read that Nicholas 2, too, loved: Crimean port
                      1. 0
                        4 November 2022 09: 53
                        And to hell with him, the fool, he knows that he loved, he fell in love with the country and himself too.
                      2. 0
                        4 November 2022 10: 05
                        Quote: Astra wild2
                        I read that Nicholas 2, too, loved: Crimean portway

                        He adored Madeira, not Port...
                      3. +2
                        4 November 2022 10: 38
                        I read from Zimin that they delivered to the court, especially for the emperor: "Shustovsky" cognac, Levadius port wine. (Remained official papers).
                        It seems that Yusupov said that Rasputin was pumped up by Madera
  5. +4
    3 November 2022 09: 31
    Weird. The description of hunting with a bow with blunt arrows is one of the versions “so that there is no blood”, but on the other hand, the giblets of the prey are immediately given to the dog, and the last scene with the butchering of deer is a lot of blood.
    1. +5
      3 November 2022 10: 22
      Here, something else. We can only guess, perhaps so as not to damage the skin? Or some sort of ritual. Who knows what kind of "cockroaches" she has in her head?
      Women's logic is a strange thing
      1. +5
        3 November 2022 10: 40
        Such tips are now called "shockers". For birds and small animals. Immediately knocks down, and she does not fly far
      2. +4
        3 November 2022 15: 02
        Women's logic is a strange thing


        No, she's just incomprehensible. wassat



        Hello, Glory! smile
        1. +1
          3 November 2022 16: 16
          Kostya, hello. I agree, we can hardly understand women's logic
    2. +4
      3 November 2022 11: 12
      with a bow with blunt arrows


      Most likely it is a wide sharp tip, to be sure. Such fanatics of bows / crossbows are now used for hunting.
      1. +5
        3 November 2022 11: 25
        Quote: Bolt Cutter
        Most likely it is a wide sharp tip, to be sure. Such fanatics of bows / crossbows are now used for hunting.

        These are modern hunters, earlier they hunted a bird with a forked tip (which is in the center):

        They hunted a fur-bearing animal with a blunt one - it was impossible to damage the skin. hi
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          3 November 2022 11: 31
          earlier the bird was hunted with a forked tip
          There are such now - some also with folding blades. The rabbit was most likely considered a meat animal in England, and not a fur animal.
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            3 November 2022 11: 34
            Quote: Bolt Cutter
            The rabbit was most likely considered a meat animal in England, and not a fur animal.

            I meant sable and others that were hunted for their skins. Why is the rabbit being hunted with this in this miniature? to be honest, I don't know. Maybe for a scarecrow? wassat
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            3 November 2022 14: 20




            shocker is this. Tomar is also called
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              3 November 2022 14: 36
              Maybe, but it is unlikely that in those days they were embarrassed to shed the blood of poor animals.
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                3 November 2022 15: 49
                Quote: Bolt Cutter
                Maybe, but it is unlikely that in those days they were embarrassed to shed the blood of poor animals.

                It's not about blood, it's about efficiency
    3. +1
      3 November 2022 20: 05
      Perhaps - so as not to stain clothes unnecessarily. Although for some reason they showed only hunting, but there was also fishing, including with a harpoon and a bow.


      In general, the forest and hunting life of a noble and free castle inhabitant can be roughly imagined from the old film - Ronya, the Robber's Daughter (1984).
  6. +4
    3 November 2022 10: 17
    "to the readers" V. Oh, you know how to flatter the ladies.
    At least our Amazons will be happy.
    I don't see our doctors.
    PS, comrades, my "personal" does not work (the rearrangement did not help), so I call if I didn’t congratulate anyone on their birthday or didn’t answer the letter. "iron is iron" he has his own concepts
    1. +1
      3 November 2022 13: 17
      Already answered: there is no time, and Katya has family problems. What .... I won’t say, she herself will say when she “jumps” onto the site. Perhaps he will say, or maybe ....
      1. +1
        3 November 2022 16: 25
        "maybe" is intrigued by this wording.
        From my own experience I know: there are very interesting stories
  7. +3
    3 November 2022 10: 52
    And they also used owls and owls as hunters. The truth is rare, more often like a decoy
  8. 0
    3 November 2022 13: 12
    Vyacheslav Olegovich, colleagues Good afternoon.
    We haven't talked in a while, but there are objective and subjective reasons for this.
    Most of you are in a more comfortable position than me, you are free, and I have to "pull the strap": support a family. True, the "little one" began to work and it will be easier financially, but still it is difficult in the fourth. We decided: we will live in a place, and we will probably rent out a free apartment.
    These are objective reasons, not subjective. There is simply no time to read a romance novel, watch a good TV series on YouTube, and nothing on the site really interested me.
  9. +2
    3 November 2022 15: 34
    The owner of Trilobite (Mikhail), dear, New Zealand is a wonderful choice. There are no poisonous snakes and spiders!
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      3 November 2022 15: 38
      Oh, but they say there is an ozone hole. Be careful with the sun.
  10. +6
    3 November 2022 17: 05
    At the beginning of the 20th century, sables and squirrels were hunted in Russia with a bow with arrows that did not have a tip, the arrow was blunt, precisely in order not to spoil the skin.
    Here is which of the corvids is smarter - the question.
    I saw, about 2-3 years ago, in the summer, how a pair of ordinary gray crows tried to attack from above a flying buzzard with a rat in its paws (it is also a furry-legged buzzard), one swoops down on a buzzard. At the very last moment, he rolls over onto his back, not releasing his prey. The crow makes a candle sharply upwards. The buzzard flips over and flies at the same speed. After a couple of seconds, the second one tries to dive - again a coup, a crow with a candle up. The buzzard rolls over, picks up speed a little, and gradually moves further and further away from the crows.
    At the dacha, a feeder from a transparent 1,5-liter polyethylene bottle is suspended from the branches of a birch. The notch in it is about 10 cm from the bottom, 2-3 cm in diameter, so that the sparrows do not climb in, but hangs on a thin cord - it dangles from the slightest breeze. Sparrows cannot climb into it, but different titmouses, bullfinches and nuthatch are easy. He filled the feeder full of seeds, went into the dacha. While the kettle boiled, I took out sandwiches, I hear magpies crackling at the feeder. After 2 rows, magpies nest on the site for many years, 6 of them hibernate. Through the window, from the end of the house, from behind a tulle curtain, I observe. One bird flies up on a high board (30 centimeters high from the ground), which my wife dug at the end of the bed, so that you could see where and what she planted on the bed. It aims for forty 3-4 seconds, then often flaps its wings, its tail, at 90 degrees to the body, is directed forward, takes off like a helicopter strictly vertically upwards. It flew up to the bottle and sharply with its paws, previously pressed to the body, hits the bottle. Through the notch, part of the sunflower seeds flies from a strong blow to the ground. Magpie immediately falls to the ground and picks up seeds, the rest fly up to her. In 3-5 seconds, the seeds are all picked up from the ground. The same magpie takes off again on the board, the rest sit down on the nearest trees and on the ridge of the roof of the country house. For about 5 seconds it takes aim and again takes off like a helicopter, putting its tail forward. So 3-4 times. I had to take a mug of water, go out onto the porch and splash hot water on the white side. They scattered from the site uncensoredly cracking at me. At the moment of pieces, 5 titmouse from the Christmas tree and cedar flew to the feeder ...
    It is not clear why the usual net at the rabbit hole is called a snare. Translation difficulties? The snare in those days was a self-tightening loop made of horsehair for a bird and a small animal.
    In the "saints" of the 90s, the cousin's husband was left almost without work - who needs a high-altitude fitter-welder-gas cutter. Instead of Novaya Zemlya, Kola, Severodvinsk, Plesetsk and Baikonur, he went on business trips to Moscow if there was work there. He restored the Ostankino tower after the fire, and mounted a roof over the Luzhniki. So the skills of dressing beaver skins and the ability to sew hats helped the family to live, the daughter was born in 1980, the sons are still younger. Yes, my sister was left without work then - why does free Ukraine need some kind of "Sail" on the North side of Sevastopol, and also send people to Severodvinsk and pay them travel allowances? Dacha, hunting and fishing fed often.
    Pigeons, like any game - who will cook and how. In the army, pigeons were caught in Machulishchi near Minsk, cleaned and roasted on a fire on a metal sheet and on skewers. Quite ... Ducks of narcotic breeds ate many times. Some authors describe that the meat smells like fish from dives - again, someone will remove the skin and marinate ... Someone doesn’t eat beaver or nutria, someone disdains moose, someone doesn’t eat capercaillie - the meat is dark, the smell and the taste is not the same, but someone’s wife will wind elk cutlets with lard or stick dumplings - you can’t pull anyone by the ears.
    And today, every year, venison and especially offal, including tongues, tons and kilometers, and ice cream, and in canned food go from the NAO to Moscow and St. Petersburg every year. In cooperative stores in Severodvinsk, until the middle of the "saints" of the 90s, various game lay, during the 90s, people without work and wages went berserk and beat everything that flies, runs and swims. Almost all of the wild reindeer in the Arkhangelsk region were knocked out, and the elk too. And also different snowmobiles appeared on sale, not heavy "Burans". There were slapsticks that the moose calves were simply driven out on snowmobiles to the lakes, there they were simply driven to death on the ice ... Over the past 10 years, the elk has become more, the beaver too, here the wild boar is smaller. Collective and state farms have died, potatoes, carrots, turnip cabbage, oats are planted less. Brown bear all infected with trichinosis ...
  11. +1
    3 November 2022 22: 47
    ee2100 (Alexander), Shura, what are you talking about! Beaver is kosher fish! Where did you see the scales of the babr? No, you tell me, have you seen the gills of a babr? Have you seen the caviar and fins?...
    And before 3 days off:
    -Solomon Moiseevich, Firochka got poisoned.
    - She ate not fresh ...
    - No, she bit her tongue.
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    4 November 2022 02: 03
    Pay attention to the text under the thumbnails.
    Latin.
    Thanks to the author! Relaxed while reading...