Chief of the General Staff of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation Gerasimov had a telephone conversation with British and American colleagues about the "dirty bomb"

The Russian Defense Ministry has once again warned the United States and Britain about the likely use of a "dirty" nuclear bomb by the Kyiv regime to blame Russia. Following the Minister of Defense Shoigu, telephone conversations with the American and British colleagues were held by the Chief of the General Staff of the Russian Armed Forces, General of the Army Gerasimov.

According to the Russian military department, Gerasimov had a telephone conversation with the Chief of the British Defense Staff, Admiral Reydakin, as well as with the Chairman of the US Joint Chiefs of Staff, General Mark Milley. The main topic of discussion was a provocation prepared by Ukraine using a low-yield nuclear charge or a "dirty" nuclear bomb.

In addition, Russia is sending a corresponding letter to the UN Secretary General. In it, Moscow warns of Kyiv's planned provocation using a "dirty bomb". This was confirmed by the First Deputy Representative of the Russian Federation to the UN Security Council Polyansky. Russia also warned the West that it is not worth ignoring Moscow's warnings, this could lead to the West actually stepping over the red line with its actions.

Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov said that Russia has evidence of Kyiv planning a provocation with a nuclear bomb, and all statements by Western politicians that the Zelensky regime is not up to anything are unfounded.

Meanwhile, the wave raised by Russia has already forced Western military functionaries to react. So NATO Secretary General Jens Stoltenberg said that he did not believe in the creation of a nuclear bomb by Ukraine, the Pentagon also denied that such work was carried out by Kyiv. At the same time, no evidence to the contrary has been presented.

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[dmi.pris1]

It is clear that there is no smoke without fire. And do not say that you did not warn. However, for these, any guano-God's dew

[SKVichyakow]

Quote: dmi.pris

It is clear that there is no smoke without fire. And do not say that you did not warn. However, for these, any guano-God's dew

It is not clear to me why neither the Kyiv nor Kharkov institutes involved in this development have yet been destroyed. They also know the place of assembly. And silence.

[Rustic]

Neither Kyiv nor Kharkov has nothing to do with it. Assembly site of the dirty bomb VostGOK. But why they still chew snot, instead of destroying it up to the use of tactical nuclear weapons, this is a question! Who in the Kremlin benefits from the explosion of a dirty nuclear bomb?

[Yura]

Are you smoking something nasty? Overscribing.

[Rustic]

Iodine deficiency, have you stocked up on pills?

[Lionnvrsk]

Quote from Rustic

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Didn't you teach the designers of Ukroboronprom how to glue cardboard tanks?

[Rustic]

And you want to learn how to glue tanks?

[Lionnvrsk]

Quote from Rustic

And you want to learn how to glue tanks?

And why are you "poking" me? Or can swineherds communicate differently?
And gluing boxes is not my thing! Mine is for the enemy to glue the fins! Although it was a long time ago. I already forgot the last time I watched TKN-3.

[former soldier]

Who in the Kremlin benefits from the explosion of a dirty nuclear bomb?

Why dirty? If there are a lot of clean ones. The range is wide. Only Russia has no reason to use either dirty or clean. Sumerians can make dirty waste out of waste, but only an idiot can use it.

[guest]

Quote: Former soldier

Well, only an idiot can use it.

Well, then Zelensky can apply.

[Rustic]

Sumerians can make dirty waste out of waste, but only an idiot can use it.

Then what's the point of all this talk of opportunity? I remember one of the main reasons for the start of the NWO was precisely the ability of the saloreich to create a dirty bomb. And what comes out now? 8 months doing something completely different? Once everything remains as it was. Why didn’t they warn like that then, or why did they decide that this time the warning would work? Or calculation that does not work? Or then it’s not at all because of this that the whole mess was made? Too many unanswered questions, don't you think?

[former soldier]

Or then it’s not at all because of this that the whole mess was made? Too many unanswered questions, don't you think?

The answer is simple - it has not yet been possible to turn over power in Ukraine. That is why the problem of the Ukrainian dirty bomb has not been solved, among other problems.

[Rustic]

But the Israelis, for example, do not think so. And simply, if possible, they destroy the entire Iranian nuclear infrastructure, and do not chase the Ayatollahs. And in our country they don’t want to destroy, not nuclear facilities. Although 8 months, and thousands of missiles would already be enough for this.

[DymOk_v_dYmke]

Quote from Rustic

But the Israelis, for example, do not think so. And simply, if possible, they destroy the entire Iranian nuclear infrastructure, and do not chase the Ayatollahs.

It is difficult to approve this, but they are solving the problem correctly: they are not chasing ayatollahs, but they are destroying nuclear physicists.

[Ivan_Krasnov]

It would also be nice if the Russian Federation hit strategically important facilities related to nuclear physics. Then they would have lost that desire.

[former soldier]

It would also be nice if the Russian Federation hit strategically important facilities related to nuclear physics. Then they would have lost that desire.

It is necessary, of course, to cover / close these objects of nuclear physics. But.
The British can bring a ready-made waste container, all that remains is to tape it with blue tape to a bomb or to a point-y. "A pig will find dirt everywhere."

[DymOk_v_dYmke]

Quote: Former soldier

It is necessary, of course, to cover / close these objects of nuclear physics. But.
The British can bring a ready-made waste container,

It is necessary to take these objects under full control and close them, but it is impossible to "cover" them.
And there are plenty of waste containers in 404 and their own.

[DymOk_v_dYmke]

Quote: SKVichyakow

Quote: dmi.pris

It is clear that there is no smoke without fire. And do not say that you did not warn. However, for these, any guano-God's dew

It is not clear to me why neither the Kyiv nor Kharkov institutes involved in this development have yet been destroyed. They also know the place of assembly. And silence.

Because the destruction of such nuclear facilities is equivalent to detonating a dirty nuclear bomb.
Such objects must first be taken under full control and then professionally decommissioned and deactivated.
That is why Kyiv and Kharkov and others should have been taken long ago.
That is why the withdrawal from near Kyiv and from all the occupied northern regions of Ukraine is incomprehensible.
Any of the "gestures of good will" is fraught with filthy consequences.

[isv000]

Quote: dmi.pris

It is clear that there is no smoke without fire. And do not say that you did not warn. However, for these, any guano-God's dew

It seems to me that they were not only talking about dirt, since before that we just didn’t pick up the phone ... They warned, go ahead, that we won’t call again, if anything ...

[Arkady007]

Looks like there needs to be another answer.
If NATO Secretary General Jens Stoltenberg said that he did not believe in the creation of a nuclear bomb by Ukraine, then we must believe him.
But exactly until the moment of its application.
Instant response will be in London.
If he believes that there will be no application, then he has nothing to fear.
Let it endorse in writing and everyone will be happy.

[Sardelka]

Sorry for the off-topic conversation. I haven't seen gansales on the forum for a long time. Nobody knows where he is? Maybe he's sitting on a different profile or changed his nickname.

[Vorchunov]

He sits for discrediting the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation. The tongue is long and

[dmi.pris1]

Do you need him, Mihan? Reincarnation has passed, as usual. ZOV, it seems.

[DymOk_v_dYmke]

Quote: dmi.pris

Reincarnation took place, as usual. ZOV, it seems.

So.
Style and vocabulary have not changed.

[tralflot1832]

It looks like I've been farmed, I won't shoot. Read the comments carefully. We have a Phoenix bird.

[tralflot1832]

After such a provocative

UN statements, the countdown has already begun. Yes, and the Pentagon distinguished itself a couple of hours ago. They say that they are in constant contact with Russia and their partners. The week will be "fun".

[poquello]

Quote: tralflot1832

The week will be fun.

self-propelled grandfather walks the planet, the ghost of the Biden invisible roams

[DymOk_v_dYmke]

Quote: tralflot1832

The week will be fun.

I would like to be mistaken, but something tells me that November 7th may turn out to be especially "fun".

[Mint Gingerbread]

Something emerges the following picture. Ukraine detonates a bomb, Western experts record casualties and contamination of the territory. The Western media are starting to pump up about the blow from Russia. An attempt to declare Russia a sponsor of terrorism. Accusing Russia of infecting part of Western European countries. The European Union decides to introduce (pre-trained troops) near the border of Ukraine under the guise of preserving the western territory from a second strike, in the form of peacekeeping forces.

[Pulkovo1942]

The European Union decides to introduce

I don’t think so, if we were now observing Russian troops a few hundred kilometers from the Lviv region, otherwise. What is the point of risking the lives of their soldiers if the conditional Indians (in their understanding) successfully annihilate each other, and there is no end in sight to this.

[stankow]

And where are they, these "pre-prepared European troops" ??

[Victor Leningradets]

Enter into the contaminated area, without dry closets?

[Alexga]

In my opinion, the Russian side warned everyone about possible provocations, and whether to believe them or not is the problem of the West.

[isv000]

Quote: AlexGa

In my opinion, the Russian side warned everyone about possible provocations, and whether to believe them or not is the problem of the West.

With all the squealing and standing on the verge of a vigorous war, we continue to supply strategic raw materials to the states. But it's time to extinguish them, then there will be no wars. Peace - peace!

[Alexga]

But it's time to extinguish them, then there will be no wars.

But, unfortunately, many in the leadership there is the slogan "Business is business and nothing personal." Acts on the verge of treason. Probably, in vain, Beria was shot. Now he oh how needed!

[guest]

Quote: AlexGa

Probably, in vain, Beria was shot. Now he oh how needed!

No, not Beria, but Stalin is needed.

[isv000]

Quote: guest

No, not Beria, but Stalin is needed.

Kadyrov will not fit?

[kuztoday]

So they say, we will not sell, they will buy from Kazakhstan easily. It's like a schedule. It makes no sense to stop trading.

[DymOk_v_dYmke]

Quote from kuztoday

So they say, we will not sell, they will buy from Kazakhstan easily. It's like a schedule. It makes no sense to stop trading.

If they buy from anyone, then at a higher price due to the narrowing of the market.
It's already good.

[Sergei Kazarin]

It is surprising that Gerasimov, despite a bunch of failures and old age, is still the head of the GNS

[dmi.pris1]

What is GNSh? And with what fright is he elderly?

[Sergei Kazarin]

Such, he is 67 years old and has not commanded anything for 20 years.
In WWII, the most successful generals were 40 years old

[dmi.pris1]

What should a staff officer command? He is a planner. And even earlier, in the Civil War, ensigns commanded armies. And?

[Sergei Kazarin]

And what success did he plan?
Let me remind you that this planner opened a hospital during the Kharkiv offensive of the Armed Forces of Ukraine

[isv000]

Quote: Sergey Kazarin

It is surprising that Gerasimov, despite a bunch of failures and old age, is still the head of the GNS

Call a man?!

[tihonmarine]

At the same time, no evidence to the contrary has been presented.

So the dog knows whose meat he ate.

[Plate]

In fact, this line is the funniest. Reminds me of how the West demanded proof that Russia did not do what it is accused of. Here we accuse you of preparing a nuclear strike. Prove now that you don't cook.
If this is from the editors of Voshnaya, then the blooper is permissible and excusable. But if this came from, say, the press service of the Foreign Ministry, then I would have uncomfortable questions.

[tihonmarine]

Quote: Plate

Here we accuse you of preparing a nuclear strike. Prove now that you don't cook.

According to American thought, what I say does not require proof - America is always right, and proof is not needed from others, because they are always wrong.
Like that woman"One of me is honest, and the rest of the women are just a lady."

[filibuster]

And whoever can explain why exactly now Ukraine is provoking with a dirty nuclear bomb? At the front, as long as they have the initiative, weapons are flowing to them, financial assistance, too, and so far there are no reasons why this flow should stop in the coming year. What will this provocation give them?
So far, this looks more like an attempt to divert the attention of the Russian audience from the not so good news from the front, the losses that have begun among the mobilized.
In general, of course, Putin greatly disappointed, he has always positioned himself as a strong leader, but now, when the time has come to punish the failures of his “friends”, first of all Gerasimov and Shoigu, he demonstrates softness. In the summer of 41, Stalin removed Zhukov from the post of chief of the General Staff and shot Pavlov, and here so many problems came up and more than one serious criminal case.

[Mint Gingerbread]

To understand what is happening in Ukraine, one must look inside the US political processes.

[Rustic]

Exactly. And there, according to estimates, the crapcrats are famously leaking congressional elections. It seems to me that soon there will be another nigga slapped.

[filibuster]

Voters in the United States are primarily concerned about internal problems, prices, inflation, unemployment, etc., therefore, with any victory in Ukraine with unresolved problems within the United States, voters cannot be bought.
Here, yes, the Negro may be slapped to exacerbate some kind of internal contradictions.

[Rustic]

with unresolved problems within the United States, you “cannot buy” voters.

Yes, somehow the current domestic problems of the United States are directly related to their foreign policy.

[former soldier]

Yes, somehow the current domestic problems of the United States are directly related to their foreign policy.

The fact is that Washington either does not understand this or cannot recognize it. They do not know how to resolve their internal problems without losing the face of the United States.

[Rustic]

They do not know how to resolve their internal problems without losing the face of the United States.

They themselves said that the inhabitants of the United States care little about all these losses of face. They have their own ass in warmth closer. Or do you think that the voters are really so stupid that they don’t see the connection between some kind of person who doesn’t understand who needs it, and their frozen ass? Here are the shitty rats and they are trying to distract and scare at least something. The explosion will not be with them. But under the guise, you can catch something in troubled waters. To the extreme, draining the elections, such a good meanness will be left to the Republicans to deal with this. And yet they will be blamed for it. They say that the explosion is okay, but you have to react to it somehow ... The Russians, they say, are almost bombing America with a nuclear weapon, and you Republicans are going to agree with them about something.

[former soldier]

They themselves said that the inhabitants of the United States care little about all these losses of face.

Although I did not state this, but I will answer. Residents of the United States really do not care about losing face. The loss of face worries the parties, the ruling elite, big business and bankers. How to solve their internal problems without losing face, they don’t know

[Rustic]

Although I did not state this, but I will answer. US residents don't really care about losing face

Yes, I'm talking about the same thing. When between the face and the ass, judging by the everyday language, the ass is chosen. Well, you understand. The same Asians, Chinese, Japanese ... they don’t say save your ass. They have no such idiom. But there is an idiom - to lose face. And for them it is really mentally important. Sometimes it's more important than saving your ass.

[DymOk_v_dYmke]

Quote from Rustic

Yes, somehow the current domestic problems of the United States are directly related to their foreign policy.

Since long ago, from internal problems, any government has tried to switch attention to external ones.

[antivirus]

+ Swiss gnomes.
At 14-15, the President of Switzerland arrived and decided to stop vacationers in Minsk1-2

[VLR]

Now they say that the role of Angela Merkel was decisive: it was she who persuaded Putin to abandon the Novorossiya project and dragged him into Minsk. The former KGB officer was held by a former pioneer from the GDR. Stepashin, in particular, stated this - and no one is in a hurry to refute his words - either here or in the West.

[Sergej1972]

Which one? In Switzerland, the president is elected for a year, and he does not have any special individual powers. He is just the first among equals in the board of 8 people, performing the functions of a real collective president and government at the same time.

[antivirus]

Who came, he persuaded.
The collective mind worked.
The role of personality in history.

[Yura]

[quote = filibuster] At the front, as long as they have the initiative, [/ quote]
They don’t own, they simply don’t know what to do anymore, they’re hammering just to justify the supply of weapons by the West. [quote] [quote] financial assistance too, and so far there are no reasons why this flow should stop in the coming year. [/ Quote] The flow of weapons is drying up with every day. [quote] What will this provocation give them? [/ quote] They warm themselves with the hope of bringing in peacekeeping forces, not NATO, but peacekeeping forces. There is no time to answer the rest of your nonsense, and there is no need, it’s useless, I don’t offer you treatment either, because your chronicle is for a long time.

[former soldier]

And whoever can explain why exactly now Ukraine is provoking with a dirty nuclear bomb? At the front, as long as they have the initiative, weapons are flowing to them, financial assistance, too, and so far there are no reasons why this flow should stop in the coming year. What will this provocation give them?

The fact is that the time has come for decisive action. They have already shown everything that the Armed Forces of Ukraine are capable of despite the abundant assistance of the United States. Russia is just beginning to deploy conventional weapons and troops for decisive action. The pogrom of the energy and rear of Ukraine with geraniums and calibers is just the beginning. Now answer, what decisive actions can Ukraine take to turn the card table over? That's right, to involve NATO directly under whatever sauce you like. That's what a dirty nuclear bomb is for. Russia does not have any desperate situation, and therefore it simply does not need to indulge in nuclear weapons, in any form. And it won't solve anyone's problems.

[vadim_ivanov]

in order for China, the Indians and the last friends to merge us, to start the world NWO against us

[Zagrebun]

As one of the odious characters used to say, "I bet ..."

[Fizik13]

Something Anglo-Saxons fluttered! At the beginning, the ministers of defense, now the chiefs of the general staff, then ...
It is necessary for Western politicians to think first with their heads, otherwise their tongue babbles in front of their brains ...

[Nyrobsky]

Quote from Fizik13

Something Anglo-Saxons fluttered! At the beginning the ministers of defense, now the chiefs of the general staff, then ... It is necessary for Western politicians to think first with their heads, otherwise their tongue babbles in front of their brains ...

Maybe some examples were solved there, different numbers were added and subtracted. Probably our "mathematicians" turned out to be more convincing
They say that just two Sarmats, ten warheads each, are enough to nullify insular Great Britain.

[Tagan]

Quote from: filibuster

And whoever can explain why exactly now Ukraine is provoking with a dirty nuclear bomb? At the front, as long as they have the initiative, weapons are flowing to them, financial assistance, too, and so far there are no reasons why this flow should stop in the coming year. What will this provocation give them?
So far, this looks more like an attempt to divert the attention of the Russian audience from the not so good news from the front, the losses that have begun among the mobilized.
In general, of course, Putin greatly disappointed, he has always positioned himself as a strong leader, but now, when the time has come to punish the failures of his “friends”, first of all Gerasimov and Shoigu, he demonstrates softness. In the summer of 41, Stalin removed Zhukov from the post of chief of the General Staff and shot Pavlov, and here so many problems came up and more than one serious criminal case.

Indeed? What is ownership of the initiative? They get hit and rolled back. And so in a circle. And somewhere they retreat. And what will happen when the mobilized Russian Federation begins to saturate the front? The prospects for the ukrovermacht are completely bleak, no matter how much they are pumped up. They lose many times more than they gain. This same bomb can stop the fighting and prevent the defeat of the Ukronazis.

[Plate]

I think there might be a simpler explanation. The military potentials of the Russian Federation and Ukraine, no matter what happens there, are very different and not in favor of the latter. If Russia wants to defeat Ukraine, it will do it stupidly with its mass. Ultimately, globally, Ukraine has no chance if the Kremlin decides to destroy it. But direct NATO intervention could tip the balance dramatically. And using a dirty bomb is a way to get a chance at such interference.

[filibuster]

But direct NATO intervention could tip the balance dramatically. And using a dirty bomb is a way to get a chance at such interference.

In my opinion, this looks too naive, if NATO decided to intervene, why does it need all these provocations? What now stops NATO from interfering only with Putin's threat to launch nuclear strikes, how will these threats become unrealistic after a provocation? And if these threats are not real, then why some complicated provocation?

[filibuster]

Indeed? What is ownership of the initiative?

So far, they have the initiative on the front, they decide which sectors to attack, so far we have a plan to keep Kherson for the next couple of months at most. Can you even imagine such a situation back in February, that there will be discussions whether we will keep Kherson or not?

And what will happen when the mobilized Russian Federation begins to saturate the front?

And what will happen if a professional army was forced to retreat, then what better will those mobilized with lower motivation be?

The prospects for the ukrovermacht are completely bleak, no matter how much they are pumped up.

The prospects, but they are sad, like ours, regardless of how this SVO ends, we will face a difficult economic situation and a demographic and social crisis.

[Dkuznecov]

The first sign of a bluff is that the deck is ending, and soon it will be opened.

[Tagan]

Maybe hit the Brits, all of a sudden? But only a pure bomb.

[Tagan]

Quote from: filibuster

Indeed? What is ownership of the initiative?

So far, they have the initiative on the front, they decide which sectors to attack, so far we have a plan to keep Kherson for the next couple of months at most. Can you even imagine such a situation back in February, that there will be discussions whether we will keep Kherson or not?

And what will happen when the mobilized Russian Federation begins to saturate the front?

And what will happen if a professional army was forced to retreat, then what better will those mobilized with lower motivation be?

The prospects for the ukrovermacht are completely bleak, no matter how much they are pumped up.

The prospects, but they are sad, like ours, regardless of how this SVO ends, we will face a difficult economic situation and a demographic and social crisis.

They can attack as much as they want. Only at the same time, how much do they lose armored vehicles, manpower, depleting their potential? Apparently, this situation suits ours before the approach of the reserves.
And what's wrong with the mobilized? First, there are a lot of volunteers. It's about motivation. Who did not want to go to war, previously jumped at rallies with yellow ducks, faded away. Secondly, these are not recruits at all. Many of them went through the war, and more than one. Russian warriors had experience at least in Chechnya, Georgia, Syria, and, well, various African republics. Perhaps one of the Afghans will catch up (by age, the officers seem to be passing).

[opuonmed]

if they know that there is, then destroy whoever makes the decision warned everyone and destroy everyone! United States Britons play with us like with kittens

[Adagka]

If our Chekists at least sometimes pulled their butts out of their offices, they would know that it’s like a month !!!!! the Britons developed a vigorous activity at the Rovno nuclear power plant. And the funny thing is that this information is in the public domain. But ours, with their late ignition, now only ran. However, what to demand from those who poured all the intelligence down the toilet before the start of the NWO and the operation itself, turning it into a full-scale war.
Or someone who was rummaging around in his pants for eight months, looking for his personal belongings there, until finally he was honored to bomb the first power plant with the hacks, and even then only when the hacks had already pulled their eyes on the ass.

[Yves762]

If there is Che, and "those" fool include, then maybe it's still worth putting everything in the public domain?
T.s. to the judgment of the public.
Let the taxpayers smoke them.

[JonnyT]

I wonder what Gerasimov told them that they started the back come on?
After calls to Shoigu, there was no such reaction.
Apparently, an ultimatum was issued that in the event of a nuclear provocation, uncontrollable processes would follow in the form of the liquidation of the Zelensky regime, its foreign advisers, strikes against NATO troops in Poland, Romania, and so on.

[Repellent]

Quote: JonnyT

I wonder what Gerasimov told them that they started the back come on?

I'm interested too. Basically, there is something to say

Quote: JonnyT

they started back come on?

Funny sentence construction. Are you doing this on purpose?

[vovochkarzhevsky]

And the general has nothing else to do as a diplomat to play? In the army, we began to have complete order.

[Altmann]

Friends, even from the discussion it seems that we are worried and do not understand much. I consider it important to have conversations with the chiefs of staff of other countries. I believe that the Ukrainians are capable of building and using a bomb. Well, I don't know what the Russian General Staff will do, but I believe that Gerasimov has some plan, some instructions, and the strategic part of the army will be put on alert. be necessary. I confess that I do not see any reasonable way out, and the Ukrainians will not hesitate.

[flicker]

The main topic of discussion was a provocation prepared by Ukraine using a low-yield nuclear charge or a "dirty" nuclear bomb.

You just have to tell the truth.
And the truth is that Ukraine, at the request of the US and Britain, will detonate the "dirty bomb" provided to them by the US and Britain.
And no excuses like, it's not us (the Anglo-Saxons), it's the Ukrainians who blew it up, they won't blow it up.
That is why we will answer for this Anglo-Saxon provocation with YARS in London.

[Vasily Okoneshnikov]

Why hasn't the nuclear research center and the "dirty bomb" likely to be made been hit yet? In my opinion, it is time to strike at institutions as well.

[iouris]

Speaking of birds. It was reported that the NGSH completed his thesis on how to win the hybrid war. Well?

[opuonmed]

to know 1 time was not enough)) we, as always, call to justify ourselves?

[art having]

With colleagues? These so-called colleagues drawings and will provide..

[KCA]

Yes, a dirty bomb is not so terrible, there is nothing to raise the real mass of waste with Ukrainians, and 50-100 kg of soil will be removed about nothing and that's it, our satellite with a nuclear reactor fell in Canada, no one was resettled, the soil was taken out, the USSR paid compensation, like, 12 million dollars and that's all, no noise and panic, people live in Pripyat, and even animals and fish have bred in general PPC, it turned out that due to the autumn fall of foliage and the mixing of the earth by worms and nature, the background is a factor of times lower than expected, high , of course, but people and animals live, and there are no mutants like snakes with three heads