The Armed Forces of the Russian Federation in the Kremennaya area switched to active defense, recapturing the village of Terny from the enemy and entering Torskoye and Novosadovoye

Russian troops are gradually moving from a deaf defense to an active one. The day before, the fighters of the “O” group managed not only to repel another attempt by the Armed Forces of Ukraine to break into our defenses in the Kremennaya area, but also to recapture several settlements from the enemy with a counterattack.

On Monday, the command of the Armed Forces of Ukraine launched another attack towards Kremennaya, advancing in two columns with armored vehicles. The idea of ​​the enemy was revealed by our intelligence, after which an ambush was prepared, into which enemy units fell. As reported, armored groups of the Armed Forces of Ukraine entered the minefield, immediately losing several tanks and BMP. When trying to retreat, the attackers got into a fire bag, the Russian artillery began the methodical destruction of armored vehicles and personnel of the Armed Forces of Ukraine.

The remnants of the enemy tried to flee, ours carried out a counterattack and on the tail of the retreating entered Terny, recapturing this settlement from the enemy. It is also reported that ours occupied most of the villages of Torskoye and Novosadovoye. The attempt of the Armed Forces of Ukraine to recapture these settlements ended in failure, our artillery worked perfectly.

It is noted that this is not yet a counteroffensive, but an active defense, but a week or two ago we could not even dream of such a thing, having gone on the defensive and hardly repelling enemy attacks. Now the command of the Russian group is gradually introducing fresh forces into the NVO zone, mainly volunteer detachments, and the first units from partially mobilized ones are already appearing. The main reserves are expected in the near future.

At the same time, it is emphasized that the situation in the Svatovo region is quite complicated, the enemy has concentrated large forces there.

Comments

[_simply]

We don't have to mess around right now. Do not take serious counterattacking actions. You can just provoke. Annoy the leadership of the Armed Forces of Ukraine. As if we are working with a front jab. You need to tear them apart as much as possible, and then apply a series. This is already by the time when the reserve will be put into operation in full. Surovikin, I think, will figure it out. P.S. I can’t understand that before that, the SVO had no leader.

[svp67]

Quote: _simply

We don't have to mess around right now.

No, you're wrong. Our troops, under the command of General Lapin, are acting correctly. Forces and opportunities have appeared, it is necessary to seize the initiative from the enemy, preventing him from implementing his plans in "hothouse conditions." By such actions, our troops are still gaining time to create a strong defense, and in the future to move on to the offensive, to free what they left behind. This is the "alphabet" of military affairs

[ramzay21]

No matter how Lapin's desire to be rehabilitated did not result in new sacrifices of soldiers and defeat. It is necessary to save both forces and soldiers and not to chase the liberation of the villages at any cost.

[Ivan Ivanov]

If you read, active defense is a common thing during the Second World War.

[ramzay21]

Active defense works when the balance of forces is approximately the same, and with a huge numerical superiority of the enemy, this can end in failure.

[svp67]

Quote: ramzay21

Active defense works when the balance of forces is approximately the same,

There is no such letter in this word, on the contrary, the more such a ratio is in favor of the enemy, the more actively it is necessary to conduct defense, frustrating the enemy’s plans and ideas with his actions. That's right, and the transition to a dead defense, in such conditions, leads to encirclement and defeat

[gsev]

Quote: ramzay21

Active defense works when the balance of forces is approximately the same, and with a huge numerical superiority of the enemy, this can end in failure.

Defense actually requires more resources than offensive. If you stand on the defensive, then the enemy in the area selected by him will create a 3-5-fold superiority and defeat your troops, then repeat this trick in another and third place. But if you were able to strike somewhere in response, having achieved local superiority there, then the enemy is forced to disperse his forces and, instead of attacking, he himself transfers troops to localize your success. The art of war is to create superiority and beat the enemy using this superiority. And where the enemy comes to meet him in fortified positions and fire when he left the trenches to attack.

[svp67]

Quote: ramzay21

No matter how Lapin's desire to be rehabilitated did not result in new sacrifices of soldiers and defeat.

Should he be rehabilitated? Yes, in what happened near Kharkov, his fault is minimal. He was again transferred to this sector, when another commander had already "freaked out" there, who had recently been removed for this. So you are wrong here.

[_simply]

Your comment expresses the essence of mine. Yes, there are forces to seize the initiative ... But, this must be done not headlong, but competently. So to speak, to warm up before the counteroffensive. And with a strong rear, begin to confidently put pressure on the forces of the Armed Forces of Ukraine. And take your time, no matter how strange it sounds. Although, the time has come for a counterattack. Lapin is quite literate, as is Surovikin.

[NKT]

There was a large APU group in that area, and since we are allowed to act like that, it means that it is not there and it has left. The question is where.

[svp67]

Quote: NKT

The question is where.

All the more so, it is now necessary to act actively there in order to return what was lost and force them to return, at least part of the forces, back and thereby help our troops in another sector.

[Silver99]

What does it mean not to roar? There is no doubt that Surovikin knows his business, and he immediately began with the destruction of the rear and infrastructure, he will not climb frantically like a cashier, he will do everything as he was taught. Yes, not immediately, but there will be changes and a turning point. The error of 1941 was eliminated when the command and control of the troops went through the authorities and when the General Staff made a decision, the situation at the front was already changing. Now, in fact, as Strelkov predicted, the headquarters of the Supreme Commander-in-Chief has been created, Surovikin can independently plan operations without looking back at Gerasimov with his plywood staff generals. He also decides on the use of front-line and strategic aviation, all decisions will be more prompt, according to the situation. Putin made a choice in favor of a tough general, he has powers like Zhukov during the Second World War, and his character is to match.

[Quote Lavrov]

Colleague, do not distribute advances ahead of time. Time will tell

[Alexander Salenko]

So the third one has already been appointed, I also hope that Surovikin will figure it out, his reputation is not bad.

[Silver99]

Understand that in the generals there is a war for the location of the Supreme and not always a musketeer, do you remember who commanded the grouping on February 24? Yes, it was Surovikin, and he was not going to storm the fortifications in the Donbass by storm, the group went to the rear of the Armed Forces of Ukraine with a wide coverage, but then a formidable shout, negotiations in Turkey and the withdrawal of a huge army from the Kyiv direction with Bucha and Gostomel, the party of plywood negotiators then won, received "neither peace nor war", now he has received complete freedom, Putin has only political decisions, according to the status of Surovikin above the General Staff and Kozhugetych.

[Ivan Ivanov]

The battle for the attention of the supreme during the war, in fact, with NATO, is very helpful. Once again, the supreme commander surprised himself with the words "if they hadn't carried out the mobilization as now, the problems would not have been revealed." Those. the idea to carry it out in advance, in test mode, did not even occur to you? By the way, this is not the first time this has happened, he said the same thing about the economy and sanctions, like: "if it weren't for the restrictions, they wouldn't have started their own economy." How to evaluate it?
In general, the government never ceases to please.
Shakhnazarov said: now in the Volgograd region there is a large-scale reconstruction of the battles for Stalingrad, where quite healthy men, especially against the background of some mobilized men, run around, shoot, imitate war. Another sur - past tank biathlon.

[Master 2030]

"You" is who? Are you writing from the trenches near Kremennaya?

[Uprun]

The plan-war will show ...., there, too, they are not born with a bast .... with Nata intelligence .... they have already made sure. Take care of the guys, save up strength, preparing a serious company takes 3-4 months ... we will wait ...

[coinsam]

Something so good that you can’t even believe it. We are already used to the fact that “good news” is “the attack is repelled”. In general, it’s right: you don’t need to give the enemy “quiet areas” so that he can calmly maneuver reserves.

[Retvizan 8]

Happy birthday Comrade General of the Army Surovikin!
I wish you good health, and most importantly, decisive and large-scale victories on the battlefield!

[Silver99]

By the way, yes. Thank you for reminding me October 11, 1966. I join in the congratulations, strength of spirit to him in military affairs!

[Alexander Salenko]

I join in the congratulations, I did not know that he had a doctor, but I wish you success in your hard work.

[Two]

On the shoulders of the retreating enemy, drive into his orders! Famously! Now the main thing is to get a foothold.

[Ivan Ivanov]

Again, the question is how these "big forces" got there. The answer is known, the entire infrastructure has been intact for 7 months and is still partially intact. And judging by Putin's speech, strikes against it will be continued "if and in proportion." You can’t fight like that, no one will offer us an honorable draw.
Yesterday it turned out that it is still possible to hit the infrastructure, although many (mat) talking heads convinced that it was not necessary / useless.

[gsev]

Quote: IvanIvanov

And judging by Putin's speech, strikes against it will be continued "if and in proportion." You can’t fight like that, no one will offer us an honorable draw.

So far, it is not clear that aircraft factories have increased the output of military products or increased the load on their equipment. The only thing is that not elderly machine operators began to come to work there in the last couple of months. Therefore, the production of weapons was not greatly increased by effective managers, and the contents of the arsenals did not begin to be replenished faster. Our leadership puzzled the Chinese ally more with the supply of paint for marking food packaging than with components for drones and loitering ammunition. The Chinese quickly solved the problem of ink for labels on wine, sausage and cookies.

[tihonmarine]

The troops of the Central Military District and the Western Military District took Torskoye, Terny and Novosadovoe. active defense. It is raining heavily at the front, by the evening of yesterday a real lingering downpour began. (Older than Edda)
Before the counteroffensive, reinforcements were transferred to the area. For a week there was a methodical powerful artillery preparation, the special forces of the "O" group corrected the fire on the identified positions of the enemy. The counteroffensive began after another attempt by the Armed Forces of Ukraine to attack Kremennaya, several armored groups with infantry entered the minefield, the first tanks and infantry fighting vehicles were blown up, after which the attackers fell into a fire bag, our artillery destroyed a large amount of equipment and manpower of the enemy (the exact number is still unknown).
After that, ours went on the offensive and, on the tail of the fleeing Ukropians, broke into Torskoye, Terny and Novosadovoye.

[Adrey]

and on the tail of the retreating entered

I don't know about you, but I was a little pissed off.
Actually, it's usuallyburst on the shoulders of the enemy"

[rotmistr60]

ours carried out a counterattack and on the tail of the retreating entered Terny, recapturing this settlement from the enemy

In the old days they said "on the shoulders of the enemy." This is so, by the way. The main thing is well done!

[Sailor]

The enemy will be defeated! Victory will be ours!