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Explosion on the Crimean bridge. To the question of the value of oral competitions

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Explosion on the Crimean bridge. To the question of the value of oral competitions

I have a lot of respect for TopWar and its authors, and especially its readers. Both of these audiences are very different from other resources. On TopWar, both of these audiences are adults (30+, if not 40+), and both, if not “versed” in military affairs, including technical or historical its sides are at least those who are interested in it and own the terminology and the basic conceptual apparatus.


And that is why it is precisely for us that we are ashamed to talk reactively and superficially on military topics. I urge us to think thoughtfully and deeply, and most importantly, honestly.

I am upset that a “competition” has begun on TopWar in expressing ideas and even “evidence” that the explosion on the Crimean bridge was organized and carried out by the “Gang of Zelensky”, the “Kyiv regime” and that it was assisted by “Western intelligence agencies”.

He was upset, because he did not expect from TopWar, that is, from us - such a popular popular hat-throwing “atu, atu”. We did not study for this and were interested in military affairs.

I propose to stop this competition and express sound, and most importantly, factually substantiated ideas, and precisely “in fact”.

What do we have for reflection, what is the array of information?


The Investigative Committee of the Russian Federation designated the official starting point - a car explosion occurred on the Crimean bridge, which led to damage to the bridge and the fire of fuel tanks on the railway part of the bridge, the destruction of several vehicles and the death of three people.

This is the official position of the state, and it does not include any information about terrorist actions or military actions, there is only the wording “undermining”, that is, the actuation of an explosive device or the impact on an explosive object that led to its explosion.

This is important to understand because discussion of this topic in the context of the SVO with a deviation from the official position can be interpreted as violating the law.

We also have information about the explosion itself - there was an explosion on the automobile part of the bridge in the place where the truck was located.

You need to understand that there is nothing more at the disposal of those who argue, both patriots and enemies of everything bright.

Three elements of disruption


So, firstwhat we have, and the simplest.

Departure to the Crimean bridge of a truck, in which explosives turned out, does not require any special skills, means, any “special operations” and the participation of “super spies”. No (I emphasize - no) check of the transport following the bridge, such a check - which can detecting explosives in trucks is not carried out. A visual inspection that does not reveal in any way that the crates of bottled sunflower oil actually contain explosives, and that the pesticide barrels also contain explosives. By the way, on all "translucent" scanners, boxes of soap, as well as barrels of technical lubricants, look exactly the same as explosives. And vice versa.

That is, the very fact of a car with explosives leaving the bridge did not require any special reconnaissance operations. It is obvious that the driver who went to heaven in the form of a cloud of steam did not even know that he was lucky there. It is impossible to wish for eternal memory, even “down in peace”… In other words, this fact does not say anything about the degree of qualification of the organizer and customer.

Second and too simple, unfortunately.

Making explosives. Here we all understand that this is a question of "nowhere". Until chemical analysis data are published, there is nothing to say about the type, brand and manufacturer of explosives. However, we are not on Instagram (banned in the Russian Federation) and not on Tiktok, we are on TopWar, and therefore we we knowthat making any amount of explosives is, unfortunately, not a problem. All components are commercially available, and production requires more time than special knowledge. By the color of the explosion, by the number of objects burning in the air for a long time, by the relatively weak blast wave and the lack of direction of the explosion, it can be seen that the explosive device and the explosive itself (BB) are very handicraft.

Scattered in all directions and smoothly falling burning pieces indicate that not the entire volume of the explosive reacted - it scattered to the sides and caught fire. The fact that it caught fire says that the temperature was not high, otherwise the explosive would have evaporated and burned out in the form of steam, and here are burning pieces. I'm trying to be simplistic and aware of all the inaccuracies that arise, but the fact remains.

The color of the flame (adjusted for the overall color gamut of the camera) indicates the low temperature of the explosion, and even the first flash did not overexpose the camera's matrix. Look at the footage of the military chronicle - from the flash of military explosives, the cameras simply “go blind” for 100–200 seconds, the matrices temporarily lose their entire dynamic range. It's a very cold flash.

There is practically no blast wave, at least at the level of the camera. But pay attention - other cars were not even thrown away by the explosion, the camera did not show the vibrations of the bridge, that is, the blast wave was very extended in time (I'm simplifying). The bridge deck fell, shifting within the expansion joints. That is, the explosive effect was also very average.

What is not used in this explosive device, although it was available to a manufacturer of any qualification?

First of all, the explosive was not filled with striking elements - there are no marks from the expansion of explosives on the bridge structures. If they were, they could riddle the tanks and turn the fire into a very serious one, and not into a burnout of the draining fuel.
The striking elements could damage a lot of elements of the bridge, suspension system, etc., that is, lead to the need for a complete examination and replacement of these elements. To make striking elements is easier than a lung, I assure you, moreover, armor-piercing, it is simply illegal to discuss the technology. But it's very simple.

Further, the explosive did not have a strong container, which greatly increases the damaging factors of the explosion, increasing the pressure, that is, the high-explosive action, not to mention the use of the container as a source of fragments.

Another explosive was blown up by one volume, although it is possible to undermine the charges by placing them concentrically, which gives a high explosive effect.

Then - the explosive was blown up without creating a directed explosion, which would turn the details of the bridge, especially the support - into dust, and not just knock out two or three sections of the canvas from the fasteners.

Finally, the device is not made cumulative, which is not very difficult with such a large volume of the car body, and the cumulative device could be guaranteed to destroy the bridge structures.

That is, this is the simplest "firecracker", albeit a large one. I emphasize that I am simplifying the technical aspects and not giving everything - after all, this is just an article, not an exam. I'm only showing what features some, not one.

The third, also simple and also - unfortunately.

Remote detonation of the device. Those of us who have traveled along the Crimean bridge know that there is mobile communication on the bridge, both 3G and 4G are available. That is, there are no problems with remote detonation. The operator could be both on the shore, watching through binoculars, and calmly ride in the car before truck, about 200 meters, to roughly represent, based on its speed - where the truck is. Then it's just dialing...

The choice of the place of the explosion is noteworthy - it is not the most profitable from the point of view of the danger to the bridge and from the point of view of controlling the explosion. I would venture to suggest that an explosion on an elevated bridge section would be much more dangerous for the bridge, and the restoration of such a section is more difficult.

That is, all three elements of disruption tell us that this is a primitive event.

And this does not lead to the conclusion that this event was carried out by the reconnaissance and sabotage service of some state.

I draw the attention of everyone that the Investigative Committee of the Russian Federation does not contradict this.

Customer


Let's move on to the customers, since there are no such traces that would allow us to assume the artist. There is no trace of a missile characteristic of a certain type of engine, no fragments of a drone with markings, no intercepted coded radio signal characteristic of a certain foreign system, etc. There are no traces indicating the perpetrator. So let's move on to the customers.

The customer is identified in three ways.

First option - the customer announced his victory. Confession. Let's be materialists - this is not the case. The official state authorities of Ukraine did not declare that they were the customers, organizers or executors of the explosion.

Joy over the damage to the Russian Crimean bridge? Yes, she is. Vengeful satisfaction? This is not only not a confession, it is not even a reason to suspect. If the fetters of slavery fall from someone in Africa, then the leadership of the Russian Federation, of course, will officially express its joy, but this does not mean that these fetters have been broken by Russia, does it?

Statements by individual leaders of Ukraine, even official ones? Like, we poured "bad Muscovites"? Let's think about what else to say to them? That they are sorry that there was a catastrophe on the bridge in Russia? That they sympathize with the family of the deceased driver? For example, if an explosion occurs on a bridge in Ukraine, then we will not seriously listen to any of the Russian officials, except for the official command, right? Even if officials pour and drink live on air "for such a thing", loudly shouting "Glory to Russia" and "Here we will punish you, damned Bandera."

All this not only "does not prove" - ​​it all shows that the official authorities of Ukraine do not say anything about their involvement.

That is, there is no recognition.

The second option - Whoever benefits, he did. "Quie bono", "camo coming", etc.

Is the terrorist attack on the Crimean bridge beneficial to the leadership of Ukraine? Considering that it is waging a war against Russia and that it declares its desire to seize the Russian Crimea, destroy everything Russian, it turns out that this fits into the logic of “beneficial”.

Moreover, the bridge is like a thorn in their eye, and if they destroy anything, then it is in the first place.

Yes, it is beneficial for the leadership of Ukraine both from the political, and from the propaganda, and from the military-economic side - for the bridge to be destroyed. Does that mean they are?

Are there any reasons why this is unprofitable for the leadership of Ukraine? Do they need to be compared?

From a moral point of view, a strike on the Crimean bridge "unties" the hands not only of the leadership of the Russian Federation, but also of the population, which sees that "they are completely insolent", "nothing is sacred", and which does not really mind that the territory of Ukraine and civilian objects were dealt destructive blows.

Further, this blow, no matter how you turn it, is an act of terrorism, and since the conflict will end someday, and since no one assumes that it will end with the capitulation of Russia, this act will be pulled out, and someone will be charged. And in front of the eyes of the “world community”, the strike on the bridge, on which there was no military equipment, looks like barbaric. As a matter of fact, he is.

Finally, the bridge is not damaged. The bridge is already in operation. And will soon be completely renovated. Is such sabotage beneficial to the leadership of Ukraine, which does not put the bridge out of action and even allows Russia to demonstrate that “we the greats do not care”, “here is the repaired bridge for you” and, finally, “the Russian bridge is too tough for Ukrainian Nazis”?

So a simple, that is, a primitive option - who benefits - does not give us anything. We can blame, but we must recognize - there is no factual reason to believe that this is Zelensky. No matter how you want.

Third Embodiment – the customer was handed over by the accomplice. There is a complete zero. No one signed up as "accomplices" and said - I did it together with Zelensky.

I am ready to listen to any objections (on the topic), but I invite everyone to return to reality and admit that we (ordinary people) do not see there are no facts that would indicate that - this barbaric explosion was carried out by Ukraine or Ukrainian “militants”, “saboteurs”, etc. If the leadership of Ukraine, the command of the Ukrainian armed forces and formations have something to do with it, then you have no information about it.

Who is to blame?


But we have information that on the territory of Russia, on one of the symbols of its modern life - the Crimean bridge - there was an explosion, cars were destroyed, the bridge was damaged and people died. It wasn't a car tank explosion, it was an explosive device explosion, it was a crime.

And so we have questions - how did the FSB of the Russian Federation and other services not prevent this crime?

This is not about how they let the car onto the bridge, why they didn’t inspect it, how they didn’t see it, how they didn’t look at it, didn’t look in, didn’t smell it and didn’t poke their fingers, and why there are guys with machine guns on the bridge ...

The point is that special services exist so that no one could not make explosives so that no one can assemble an explosive device. It is for this work that the special services have the authority, special means, it is for this that they have a complex organization, many qualified employees, equipment - and all this at the expense of the budget, that is, at the expense of the people, and all this is a pure "expenditure". No "income".

And that's what laws are for, which not only give them powers - laws limit rights and freedoms of citizens, so that special services could collect information, restrict the freedom of citizens, oblige citizens to do what they do not want, seize property, prevent organizations from freely paying money, and much more. Limit so it pays off securityand guaranteed security.

Intelligence agencies are required to know in real time know - that everyone capable of making explosives is either busy with something else, or does not have access to raw materials and components, or - right now they are doing it - under the "supervision" of an embedded employee who will control its movement up to another group of "bad guys" , who will not only be “taken hot”, but also with pre-prepared soldering irons, configured precisely to help in sincere recognition - who, when и as ordered all this to be organized.

As a citizen of our country, I want to say that the explosion on the Crimean bridge is not a victory for our enemies, it is a dazzling example of the negligence of law enforcement agencies and special services, our bodies and services. And the fact that the explosion is weak, and the bridge is intact is not their merit. It's just our luck, which we did not deserve.

And such negligence is much worse than the anger, money and technical equipment of the enemies, multiplied by their number.

We do not need oral competitions on the topic "why this is beneficial to the Ukronazis." "It" can be beneficial to anyone. The main thing is that it is "unprofitable" us. If you think differently, then there will be no Victory.
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  1. Boniface
    Boniface 10 October 2022 16: 35
    +8
    By the way, on all "translucent" scanners, boxes of soap, as well as barrels of technical lubricants, look exactly the same as explosives. And vice versa.


    It was written in vain...

    Somehow the role of the explosion is not "lit" near the composition with tanks with flammable liquid!
    I don't think this is a coincidence!
    Here, who "leaked" the information about the movement of the train on the bridge - they guessed it! Dispatcher of the station "Taman" on the rack and all those who knew the schedule of the railway train!
    After all, there is not so active railway traffic on the bridge!
    It’s good that a non-passenger train was nearby!
    1. Bolt cutter
      Bolt cutter 10 October 2022 16: 47
      +4
      look exactly the same
      If it's time for the scanner to go to the museum. On the monitor of a modern device, a lot of things can be seen.
      1. Tatyana
        Tatyana 10 October 2022 18: 23
        +20
        The author in his article, in fact, acts as an ADVOCATE of the Kyiv Zelensky regime in Ukraine.
        Moreover, it legally threatens the site participants for their comments, in which, from the angle of their own convictions, they proceed from information-limited publications in various media.

        At the same time, the author himself also not everything agrees and overlooks the fact that the explosion occurred precisely during the passage of the railway train with fuel for the Crimea and the Kherson region, which - well, no way! - can't be RANDOM! Very strange "forgetfulness"!
        This is a very strange omission for the author, who claims to have a complete view of what is happening.

        therefore The purpose of writing this article by the author, among other things, it is seen precisely as an attempt to prove the ILLEGALITY of long-range retaliatory strikes by the Russian Armed Forces on military facilities throughout Ukraine dated October 10, 2022 as retribution for sabotage on the Crimean bridge in the PROXY war of the USA and NATO countries against Russia on the territory of Ukraine!!

        TOTAL RESPONSIBLE long-range strikes of the Russian Armed Forces on military targets on the territory of Ukroreich dated October 10, 2022 are absolutely LEGAL! No matter how the author tries to veiledly prove the REVERSE in favor of Washington and London in the US PROXY war against Russia and EU countries in the theater of operations in Ukraine!
        1. Tatyana
          Tatyana 10 October 2022 19: 03
          +10
          7 fuel tanks burned down! And for some reason, the author talks about the lack of stuffing - the absence - in explosives in a sabotage truck in general of metal parts to defeat manpower.
          And why are they - these details - needed if the saboteurs were going to blow up the bridge itself with the railway echelon passing through it with STRATEGIC fuel to the Crimea and Kherson region?!

          Why should the author "be stupid" in such a matter and redirect the arrows for the world community to a purely humanitarian side ?! They say that the saboteurs did not kill anyone and did not intend to kill - Kyiv is "white" and "fluffy" and is not at all to blame or almost not to blame! Like, hit the "partners" of Ukraine in Russia with their Western sanctions - and it will be "fair"!
        2. Dizel200
          Dizel200 10 October 2022 21: 15
          +16
          Ambiguous opinion on the article. While reading, thanks to the author's arguments, the idea appeared that our special services were involved, just like the versions of September 11 in the USA. Beautifully summed everything up. Like Ukraine needed it, but they couldn’t, and the West has nothing to do with yours.
          1. Nyrobsky
            Nyrobsky 10 October 2022 23: 54
            +8
            Quote: Dizel200
            Ambiguous opinion on the article. While reading, thanks to the author's arguments, the idea appeared that our special services were involved, just like the versions of September 11 in the USA. Beautifully summed everything up. Like Ukraine needed it, but they couldn’t, and the West has nothing to do with yours.

            There is such. The author began for health, and ended for peace. Like, he is very upset that there are many "wrong" opinions about the involvement of Banderlogs and Western intelligence services, while there is a "correct" author's opinion about their non-involvement due to "unconsciousness". Well, they are not subject to jurisdiction, since they did not take responsibility. Further, the author, quite clumsily, tries to manipulate the reader's mind, and sets up beacons to form public opinion (drums)
            1) - The explosion unties the hands of Russia, consolidates the people in support of a retaliatory strike against "uninvolved" Ukraine. This is like an answer to the question - who benefits? So what?
            2) - This is the fault of the FSB and other law enforcement agencies. The standard installation follows immediately - the special services are maintained at the expense of the budget, to folk money, some expenses, no sense, melons holes ....
            What follows is a complete misunderstanding of the basics and conduct of operational-search activities with soldering irons and employees introduced into groups of "bad guys" with a verdict - we ourselves are to blame, because the special services do not catch mice, but at the same time the mice are not Ukrainian, but in general it is not clear whose.
            In general, this article is just one of the many opinions expressed here, and not in the best possible way.
            In order not to break spears and organize oral competitions, you just need to wait for the official results of the investigation of the RF Investigative Committee, which, as of "now", according to Bastrykin, has identified people (Russians and foreign citizens) involved in the preparation of this terrorist attack.
        3. Reptiloid
          Reptiloid 11 October 2022 17: 13
          +1
          The time is consistent with other terrorist events. Russia was not allowed to join the joint venture. This means that, of course, Ukrainian terrorism. Perhaps on instructions or a hint from someone else. Maybe not directly...
          Surprised in Russia during the NWO. It turned out that they were not panheads, but quite motivated Russophobes, prepared and provided for. . So why couldn't they blow up the Crimean bridge. He hates them. And as for the fact that it did not work out as they wanted, terrorist acts do not always develop as planned. Yes, and the bridge, therefore, is soundly built. Only they did, trying inspires another --- it makes no sense
      2. Polite Moose
        Polite Moose 10 October 2022 18: 30
        +8
        Quote: Bolt Cutter
        On the monitor of a modern device, a lot of things can be seen.

        This explains the absence of lethal elements and a cumulative funnel in the IEDs. They would be a very unmasking factor even for an ancient scanner. IED was made correctly. Somewhere on our territory, an enemy viper has dug in.
      3. KCA
        KCA 10 October 2022 18: 35
        +2
        This is if someone is watching, I myself looked through my bag at Vnukovo, in which there were spare parts - different boards, a choke, wires, all sorts of small things, somehow no one after the scanner took off the bag and asked to show what I have there
        1. seamen2
          seamen2 11 October 2022 08: 05
          +4
          And we carried vodka to the port in KZ through such a scanner. in bottles from under * fairies *. The scanner showed it was liquid. and all. True, we carefully put a bottle of bad cognac into a bag with washing powder. which the guards happily discovered. And vodka .. vodka passed onto the ship without obstacles.
    2. rocket757
      rocket757 10 October 2022 16: 52
      +8
      As he wrote that we have a lot of UNDER BUSINESS !!!
      I wrote for a long time, from the very beginning they were visible !!!
      So they put me in a corner, for a long time and with a finger, so they threatened ...
      What now??? All these imperfections have come out ... however, not everything is yet, and the next ones, new ones, are beginning to accumulate into a critical mass!
      The question is ... well, push the critics / "prophets" into the far corner again, what will become better from that?
      1. 3x3zsave
        3x3zsave 10 October 2022 19: 18
        +1
        The Crimean bridge is a continuation of "Olympstroy".
        1. rocket757
          rocket757 10 October 2022 19: 36
          0
          The bridge was built when it was necessary ... on the account, as it should, this time will tell.
        2. Old Michael
          Old Michael 11 October 2022 01: 57
          0
          The Crimean bridge is a continuation of "Olympstroy".

          Anton! Have you changed roles?
          If I hadn’t vowed to put minuses a long time ago, I would definitely have done it.
          hi
          1. 3x3zsave
            3x3zsave 11 October 2022 05: 44
            +3
            Hello Michael!
            It's too late for me to change roles. I am a builder with thirty years of experience.
    3. solar
      solar 10 October 2022 17: 30
      0
      Somehow the role of the explosion is not "lit" near the composition with tanks with flammable liquid!

      there was no guarantee that the cisterns would catch fire or that the burning cisterns would cause serious damage to the bridge
      1. 2112vda
        2112vda 11 October 2022 08: 09
        +8
        Clear! With chemistry and physics, you have serious strains. It does not matter that the explosive device was shellless, the structural elements of the car body and the car itself are excellent damaging elements. Let the explosive device be assembled on the basis of ammonium nitrate and diesel fuel, the speed of the shock wave is still above 1000 meters per second. At such a distance from fuel tanks, an explosion will cause the fuel to ignite in any case, there is such a science of gas dynamics, read it at your leisure. Burning fuel on the bridge structures of a railway bridge affects the structural elements, causing a change in the mechanical properties of the metal, I'll tell you in a simple way. The bridge structures need to be re-examined and it is likely that spans exposed to fire will need to be replaced. The sabotage was carried out very competently, there was no amateur performance there. Using a shellless explosive device is just a way to bypass possible checks. So the author of the article is simply trying to "smear off" the special services of Ukraine.
        1. solar
          solar 11 October 2022 10: 24
          -6
          At such a distance from fuel tanks, an explosion will cause the fuel to ignite in any case, there is such a science of gas dynamics, read it at your leisure.

          and give a quote from a textbook on gas dynamics, which says that at such a distance from the explosion site to fuel tanks or in any way they will catch fire, we will read it together.
          1. 2112vda
            2112vda 11 October 2022 11: 40
            +2
            Take the tables from the textbook yourself, determine the pressure and temperature in the front of the shock wave and count. I'm not interested, I've been through this for a long time. But there are definitely no quotes about the Crimean bridge in the textbook of gas dynamics. So, on your own. So that you don't write nonsense.
    4. Vend
      Vend 10 October 2022 18: 26
      +4
      The author, after each terrorist attack, most often the party that did it takes responsibility. Which was done by the Ukrainian authorities. Do you need more proof?
      1. solar
        solar 10 October 2022 19: 06
        -3
        Ukrainian authorities did not take responsibility. This is written in the article.
        The official state authorities of Ukraine did not declare that they were the customers, organizers or executors of the explosion.
      2. AYa_Mikhailov
        10 October 2022 19: 07
        -3
        Dear Vend (Anatoly)!
        I clearly wrote - the official state authorities of the state of Ukraine did NOT state that the explosion was organized by them or ordered by them to someone else
        If I'm wrong, please show WHO and WHERE of the officials who said this
        Naturally, the Minister of Health will declare that the extraction of rare earth metals has begun to increase in our country - you will understand that the information is unofficial, since this is not his competence?
        That's what I said - the President of Ukraine, who is now also the Commander-in-Chief in his country, did not say that this was done by his subordinates and by his order? No. Minister of Defense? Chief of Staff? Who is one of those whose words will be official "by position"? Nobody
        I recommended that you think about it.
        In addition to Zelensky, our country has enough enemies. That's what I wanted to say.
        1. 3x3zsave
          3x3zsave 10 October 2022 19: 31
          +1
          Naturally, the Minister of Health will declare that the extraction of rare earth metals has begun to increase in our country - you will understand that the information is unofficial, since this is not his competence?
          Reading between the lines is in our blood!
        2. Pastor
          Pastor 10 October 2022 21: 22
          0
          I read your article, everything is weighed .., I can’t write clearly .., but it looks like "September 11" .. !!! Between the lines .., you also wrote .. that certain phrases are inappropriate ..., I agree with you !!!
        3. Vend
          Vend 11 October 2022 09: 08
          +2
          Quote: AYa_Mikhailov
          Dear Vend (Anatoly)!
          I clearly wrote - the official state authorities of the state of Ukraine did NOT state that the explosion was organized by them or ordered by them to someone else
          If I'm wrong, please show WHO and WHERE of the officials who said this
          Naturally, the Minister of Health will declare that the extraction of rare earth metals has begun to increase in our country - you will understand that the information is unofficial, since this is not his competence?
          That's what I said - the President of Ukraine, who is now also the Commander-in-Chief in his country, did not say that this was done by his subordinates and by his order? No. Minister of Defense? Chief of Staff? Who is one of those whose words will be official "by position"? Nobody
          I recommended that you think about it.
          In addition to Zelensky, our country has enough enemies. That's what I wanted to say.

          Advisor to the head of the office of the President of Ukraine Mikhail Podolyak is not a representative of the authorities?
          At the end of April, the chairman of the National Security and Defense Council (NSDC), Oleksiy Danilov, said that if Ukraine had the opportunity to strike at the Crimean bridge, then Kyiv would “definitely” do so.
          In mid-June, Major General of the Armed Forces of Ukraine (AFU) Dmitry Marchenko said that the Crimean bridge was “the number one target to defeat”: according to him, the bridge “needs to be cut off,” since it is a way to “pull up reserves.”
          Do you lack evidence?
          1. Chaikovsky
            Chaikovsky 11 October 2022 14: 51
            +1
            They don't really care about evidence. It's just that readers of the site are led to certain thoughts. Very thick hints.
            1. Vend
              Vend 11 October 2022 15: 54
              +1
              Quote: Tchaikovsky
              They don't really care about evidence. It's just that readers of the site are led to certain thoughts. Very thick hints.

              Very similar to the truth.
          2. AYa_Mikhailov
            12 October 2022 00: 25
            +2
            No
            Who is the adviser to the head of the president's office?
            Is this the President? No, the president has an "office", there is a "head" in the office, and this head has an "advisor" - that is, not even an official of this office.
            This is approximately how in the Russian Federation there would be an adviser to the head of the presidential administration
            Can the chatter of such a person be considered the official opinion of a state authority, i.e. President? No
            As for "at the end of April" and "in the middle of June", you will agree that this has nothing to do with October.
            General D. Marchenko is the head of the Main Directorate of the RSMO of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, that is, in our opinion, he is the head of the department of the Ministry of Defense, which plans the material support of the armed forces. This position has nothing to do with the command of the troops, and he has no POWER to act on behalf of Ukraine. I remind you that according to the laws of Ukraine, the command of the armed forces is carried out by the chief of the general staff, and the Ministry of Defense is subordinate to him (not so in Russia). Therefore, D. Marchenko is a performer of the fourth level. I think that when you are looking for information about what goals are considered priorities for the Russian army, you are definitely not looking on the net - what did Lieutenant General Gulyaev A.V. say? I'm sure you've never heard of such a thing. This is a person who holds a position similar to that of D. Marchenko, in fact - a little higher, in the Russian Federation the structure is slightly different.
            Finally, the idea that the Crimean Bridge is a priority target is so obvious that even a fool like me understands it. So, my opinion is also the basis? I think no...
            So what you are talking about is not evidence. This is the reason to think that it is "of course they are, who else." I agree with this. Who else? I'm not sure.
            1. Vend
              Vend 12 October 2022 10: 31
              0
              Quote: AYa_Mikhailov
              No
              Who is the adviser to the head of the president's office?
              Is this the President? No, the president has an "office", there is a "head" in the office, and this head has an "advisor" - that is, not even an official of this office.
              This is approximately how in the Russian Federation there would be an adviser to the head of the presidential administration
              Can the chatter of such a person be considered the official opinion of a state authority, i.e. President? No
              As for "at the end of April" and "in the middle of June", you will agree that this has nothing to do with October.
              General D. Marchenko is the head of the Main Directorate of the RSMO of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, that is, in our opinion, he is the head of the department of the Ministry of Defense, which plans the material support of the armed forces. This position has nothing to do with the command of the troops, and he has no POWER to act on behalf of Ukraine. I remind you that according to the laws of Ukraine, the command of the armed forces is carried out by the chief of the general staff, and the Ministry of Defense is subordinate to him (not so in Russia). Therefore, D. Marchenko is a performer of the fourth level. I think that when you are looking for information about what goals are considered priorities for the Russian army, you are definitely not looking on the net - what did Lieutenant General Gulyaev A.V. say? I'm sure you've never heard of such a thing. This is a person who holds a position similar to that of D. Marchenko, in fact - a little higher, in the Russian Federation the structure is slightly different.
              Finally, the idea that the Crimean Bridge is a priority target is so obvious that even a fool like me understands it. So, my opinion is also the basis? I think no...
              So what you are talking about is not evidence. This is the reason to think that it is "of course they are, who else." I agree with this. Who else? I'm not sure.

              Woe you are an analyst laughing Read the official statement about the involvement of the SBU laughing
              1. AYa_Mikhailov
                12 October 2022 21: 19
                -1
                Maybe "grief", but I'm really an analyst
                "The SBU has reported" - is it like, "according to the information that was received by the Novoye Vremya magazine?
                who writes that "our sources in law enforcement agencies (what?) report that ..."
                Is this also an official statement?
                This is about the same "statement" as if it were on TopWar
                By the way, the SBU website https://ssu.gov.ua - there are NO references to the terrorist attack on the Crimean bridge at all, the last message about Crimea is 08.10.2022
                So I invite you to analyze and show me where the official head of at least one state body of Ukraine said - my service did it, I did it. Not?
                1. Vend
                  Vend 13 October 2022 10: 52
                  0
                  Quote: AYa_Mikhailov
                  Maybe "grief", but I'm really an analyst
                  "The SBU has reported" - is it like, "according to the information that was received by the Novoye Vremya magazine?
                  who writes that "our sources in law enforcement agencies (what?) report that ..."
                  Is this also an official statement?
                  This is about the same "statement" as if it were on TopWar
                  By the way, the SBU website https://ssu.gov.ua - there are NO references to the terrorist attack on the Crimean bridge at all, the last message about Crimea is 08.10.2022
                  So I invite you to analyze and show me where the official head of at least one state body of Ukraine said - my service did it, I did it. Not?

                  Yes, you are far from the question. laughing Russian special services have already found the executors of the order and made the information public laughing Analyst laughing
                  1. AYa_Mikhailov
                    13 October 2022 19: 08
                    0
                    Since the authorized state authorities of the Russian Federation officially announced the official version of the incident, further discussion, and even more so - discussion of the actual circumstances of the incident - becomes not entirely legal and can be qualified as dissemination of false information and entailing criminal liability.
                    So, for my part, I have to stop discussing the facts and expressing assessments of the facts. And I advise you :(
                    1. Vend
                      Vend 14 October 2022 10: 17
                      0
                      Quote: AYa_Mikhailov
                      Since the authorized state authorities of the Russian Federation officially announced the official version of the incident, further discussion, and even more so - discussion of the actual circumstances of the incident - becomes not entirely legal and can be qualified as dissemination of false information and entailing criminal liability.
                      So, for my part, I have to stop discussing the facts and expressing assessments of the facts. And I advise you :(

                      And what do I fear laughing I don't do fancy stuff. Dp and Mr. Kuleba told the pranksters. that the explosion on the Crimean bridge is the work of Ukraine. So my advice to you is never rush to analyze the situation) Better take up other topics, analytics, especially military-political, apparently not yours.
    5. Mikhail Drabkin
      Mikhail Drabkin 10 October 2022 20: 03
      +11
      — Yes, we survived! The author obviously behind the reasoning does not have such a concept “if there is a doubt, it means without a doubt ... when there is a doubt - there is no doubt !!” And I forgot "each bast in a line."

      —- This is a childish approach: “so that this never happens - the FSB exists for this ... people's money is spent for this ..” And it means - “never and nowhere”. The author is not familiar with either entropy or reality ... this is equivalent to the statement “the aircraft was accepted after many years of state testing. There will never be any problems under the conditions - guaranteed!

      —-There is a clear hint in the text: “it is beneficial for Russia”!! And the paradox “because the FSB missed it, it is beneficial for the FSB ...!”

      —- In sum, the author discards common sense and produces entities. In a word, “we will never know, so “the incredible is real”!

      —-Regardless of the motives and wishes of the author, remember “it doesn’t matter what you intended, but what the audience understood ... it is not what you intend, but what you send ..”

      - It's embarrassing to post this! This is not an opinion, this is scholasticism ... We survived!
      1. gromit
        gromit 10 October 2022 21: 09
        -6
        Please do not pass off your opinion as the opinion of the entire audience.
        For me, the author's approach is quite sensible. This is without a doubt a terrorist attack, there is a terrorist attack, there should be an investigation.
        Let me remind you that during the accident at Sayano-Shushenskaya, Chechen terrorists also immediately declared that it was all them.
        During the investigation, it is established not only who blew up and how, but also who, where, how and why allowed it.
        The war will write everything off, and everything is clear - this is not an investigation.
        1. zenion
          zenion 12 October 2022 20: 04
          0
          Ukraine - did not confess, the West - to the light bulb. Did the FSB confess? So cleverly disguised, and therefore everyone must believe in it, otherwise the prison and the gallows on the guillotine.
    6. Mikhail Drabkin
      Mikhail Drabkin 10 October 2022 23: 50
      +2
      - The train was heading in the direction of Taman. With fuel oil, or something like that, from the Crimea.

      —-Interestingly, what is it - Crimea supplies the mainland with fuel? Tankers? Compositions? Black Sea Fleet from Sevastopol to Novorossiysk? Or brought too much? Or someone in the subject can tell?
      1. zenion
        zenion 12 October 2022 20: 06
        +1
        Special fuel for fields. Waste of living activity. This is when he ate, and then made a withdrawal. Only on the mainland - big money.
        1. Mikhail Drabkin
          Mikhail Drabkin 13 October 2022 02: 39
          0
          zenion:
          Thank you!
          Combustible product - the result of processing?
  2. Buyan
    Buyan 10 October 2022 16: 35
    +5
    Hmm ... poured water, blurred ... fact - the bridge is partially destroyed ((((
    1. Greg Miller
      Greg Miller 10 October 2022 18: 19
      +6
      Quote from Buyan
      Hmm ... poured water, blurred ... fact - the bridge is partially destroyed ((((

      +1... the author wrote some nonsense. How can a directed or cumulative explosion be formed if the cargo was reloaded twice by people who did not participate in the terrorist attack?
      1. Cuckoo
        Cuckoo 10 October 2022 23: 03
        +1
        How can a directed or cumulative explosion be formed if the cargo was reloaded twice by people who did not participate in the terrorist attack?

        Elementary, Watson! The cargo was on pallets, but it was not unpacked during reloading. Another thing is that for a cumulative projectile (as well as for striking elements) metal is needed, and this is a minus for camouflage. Those. The organizers had no confidence that they would not be driven to the scanner.
  3. rocket757
    rocket757 10 October 2022 16: 46
    +8
    I propose to stop this competition and express sound, and most importantly, factually substantiated ideas, and precisely “in fact”.
    . And those who are 60+ cannot understand, for example, that there could be "gestures of good will", non-military operations, insufficient air defense, insufficient protection of important strategic facilities, and much more, not enough !!!
    My head is spinning, only pee pee remains .......
    In general, something like this.
    1. tihonmarine
      tihonmarine 10 October 2022 16: 54
      +3
      Quote: rocket757
      underprotection of important strategic facilities and much more, under!!!

      And unfinished children: who are now adults. And what to take from them. ?
      1. rocket757
        rocket757 10 October 2022 17: 01
        +4
        Undereducated ... although, education is also a matter, the MOST IMPORTANT, against the background of other others, no less important.
    2. Catfish
      Catfish 10 October 2022 17: 13
      +16
      Good afternoon, Victor!

      I already wrote recently that this whole "Operation" utterly reminds me of the Schrödinger War, this is a war in which one country declares another an aggressor, but continues to do business with it, this is when the aggressor tries to return the occupied region to the enemy, but cannot fulfill the conditions under which the victim of aggression must accept it.
      “Real events obviously break away from common sense, and the current world agenda is determined by the instantaneous peak of hysteria in the media. It doesn't matter what or how it really happened. However, it doesn't matter if it was at all. The main thing is who and how said first to the media chamber. ... If it worked, hysteria further turns into a self-sustaining process. ... If it didn’t work out to jump into the kings, then literally after a couple of tens of hours the event, supposedly capable of inevitably causing a world nuclear war, is completely forgotten. It was like nothing happened at all."
      1. rocket757
        rocket757 10 October 2022 17: 56
        +6
        Hi Konstantin soldier
        There were arguments about this war, after all, from the very beginning!
        When you get confused about the goals and objectives, some inappropriate methods and plans ...
        Many people have said that any UNDO will not end well ...
        And we still had a bad idea of ​​what it would be, then NOT GOOD!
        And now what, it has become clearer, more specific and more credible???
        Then we agreed / did express that we quickly put them in a "corner" and threatened with a finger!
        How it will turn out now ... we'll see.
        1. Catfish
          Catfish 10 October 2022 18: 04
          +11
          Now it has begun to reach the most impenetrable that "not everything is fine in the Danish kingdom." But little depends on us, the whole question is when it will reach the top, but ... I don’t see a gap yet.
          1. rocket757
            rocket757 10 October 2022 18: 08
            +5
            The upper ones, never and nowhere, did not like those who can declare .. And I told you, I warned !!!
            You don’t have to wait for that thank you, but to get a hat, it’s easy.
          2. antivirus
            antivirus 10 October 2022 18: 38
            +5
            There is no need to look for light in safes. Money loves silence, darkness and anonymity.
            All svo is the calculation of assets and their losses of various "heroes" of market reforms and creditors.
            Including Western bankers and backstage.
            "We always bargain."
          3. frog
            frog 11 October 2022 13: 55
            +1
            It has become. And now they have the eternal question of the authorities: how to change everything so as not to change anything? And ideally, these half-assers want to have some kind of result ..... Of course, this is not about organizational events, everything will be fine with the results.
      2. Korsar4
        Korsar4 10 October 2022 21: 15
        +1
        I used these methods to make a report on the performance of my wards. The younger generation are born apologists for "Schrödinger's Cats" in any form.

        I already know who I would call if I created my own media.
        1. Catfish
          Catfish 10 October 2022 21: 36
          +1
          The younger generation are born apologists for "Schrödinger's Cats" in any form.

          Nice to hear that we have Youth! smile

          Good evening, Sergey! hi

          Where would it be without cats...

          1. Korsar4
            Korsar4 10 October 2022 21: 51
            +2
            Good evening, Constantine!

            And there is truth. Seven teams of boys and girls from different regions. And with the makings of an elite that knows how to stand on the ground.

            And also bright faces come across.
            1. Catfish
              Catfish 10 October 2022 22: 02
              +1
              It’s good for you, with them you yourself get younger. I envy light envy. smile
              1. Korsar4
                Korsar4 10 October 2022 22: 22
                +1
                Yeah. They looked at my physiognomy - they said that you yourself could be mistaken for a student.

                But it's out. Better without illusions. But I can play Vanka without restrictions.
                1. Catfish
                  Catfish 10 October 2022 22: 24
                  +1
                  But I can play Vanka without restrictions.


                  And that's great! I used to like to fool around too, but now I have become old and lazy. laughing

                  Well, that's all for me, I'll try to go to bed, i.e. I lie down and try to sleep.
                  See you tomorrow, friend. smile soldier
                  1. Korsar4
                    Korsar4 10 October 2022 22: 42
                    +1
                    But for this it’s good to get away - and you start for 3-4 months at least.
                    1. Catfish
                      Catfish 11 October 2022 00: 54
                      +1
                      For me, trips to Sevastopol used to be such a "factory", now it's just a memory. smile
                      So he didn't fall asleep at all. request
                      1. Korsar4
                        Korsar4 11 October 2022 04: 00
                        +1
                        Memories can also be sorted out. It's good when they are backed up by reality.

                        This week I thought about the lines that separate a man from a young man, and a grandfather from a middle-aged man.
                      2. Catfish
                        Catfish 11 October 2022 14: 30
                        +2
                        This week I thought about the lines that separate a man from a young man, and a grandfather from a middle-aged man.

                        You somehow pass this line imperceptibly and you understand later, looking back.
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  5. Maks1995
    Maks1995 10 October 2022 16: 58
    0
    So, what a strange call to logic.
    Putin said that they are to blame - he said. They say there is data. We must believe.
    They always believed in not increasing the PV, and in the fight against prices, and in import substitution, and in sports nutrition sellers.
    Smeared on their bridges - smeared. They blew up their bridges - they blew them up. .
    On the bridge in Kyiv, a boxer, I don’t remember how he was smacked - you can.

    On the contrary, it is impossible. That's all.
    1. zenion
      zenion 12 October 2022 20: 10
      0
      They posted a video with an explosion. Everyone saw and wrote. Everyone saw the same thing and wrote the same thing. When they began to understand and get to the smallest detail, the video, along with the comments, was removed.
  6. Amateur
    Amateur 10 October 2022 16: 58
    +4
    He was upset, because he did not expect from TopWar, that is, from us - such a popular popular hat-throwing “atu, atu”. We did not study for this and were interested in military affairs.

    And this one, AYAMikhailov, who is he? Why does he allow himself to insult us, VO readers. He may like, may not like what we write in the comments. This is his own business. Personally, I (70+) write what I think in my comments. And do not teach me and / or shut my mouth.
  7. Gado
    Gado 10 October 2022 17: 09
    +1
    Author, you didn’t confuse the coast? Are you saying that the Russians themselves blew up the bridge? From what I've read, everything leads to this. "Who Benefits"?
    From a moral point of view, a strike on the Crimean bridge "unties" the hands not only of the leadership of the Russian Federation, but also of the population, which sees that "they are completely insolent", "nothing is sacred", and which does not really mind that the territory of Ukraine and civilian objects were dealt destructive blows.

    I do not know who you are, but you are a clear provocateur.
    1. Whowhy
      Whowhy 10 October 2022 18: 21
      +2
      Did you watch a video about the explosion from the "surveillance camera", are you our patriotic? As I understand it, we are all patriots here, but everyone is helluva lot in their own way. wink
      And who would benefit from quickly throwing into the net this stupid and completely mediocre montage, designed for housewives who had seen enough of American action films with Hollywood special effects, but had never seen a live explosion? Well, or on the victims of the Unified State Examination, who even did not pass the NVP and are not able to distinguish cause from effect - for example, that the explosion products scatter from the center of the explosion to the sides, and not vice versa. I'm not talking about such details as the complete absence of even a hint of a blast wave. Well, the cars that were driving no further than 20 meters from "that truck" did not even stir, but even the dust did not rise. And all this "shnyaga", which, okay, for some reason flies from the sea and, in theory, should completely fill up the entire roadway? So after all, not a single piece is visible to fall. And all this is perfectly understandable to absolutely any person who has served, yes, and not served either, if he knows how to look, compare and analyze, as we were taught in the old school ...
      Here, find these people (who made this video) and you will immediately understand who benefits from it.
      I'm not blaming anyone and I propose to be completely satisfied with the official version ....
  8. Crisp
    Crisp 10 October 2022 17: 13
    -1
    Using a truck driver blindly. In my opinion, complete nonsense. It depends on the behavior of a complete stranger. Suddenly remembering something, stopping and starting to move when the observer and holding the detonation control will be decoded and identified? Is it a coincidence that the explosion happened NEAR the train carrying fuel? Yes, this is for suckers who will rely on a thousand unknowns who can disrupt the operation. Weak, not professionally prepared explosion. And, isn’t it just a bag of garbage that doesn’t look like a professionally prepared charge at all, can’t be missed, not like the “concentric arrangement” of a land mine, and even with bolts and nuts as striking elements? The fact that the charge was of minimal power (minimal visibility, in the case of a thorough check), but sufficient to harm the canvas, and, most importantly, the IMAGE of Russia, does not mean that it was made by professionals? During my training as a techie, I had to make passports for charging explosives in the faces of quarries. There are a lot of things that are not included in the tables. Learned through mistakes and experience. Why not a suicide bomber? Then there is no need to fuss with observation and external control of the explosion. There are motives, there were many similar ones. To delve into the medical record, perhaps the person has already been sentenced by the disease, and this is a way to provide for the family.
    1. solar
      solar 10 October 2022 19: 09
      +2
      when will the person observing and holding the detonation console be deciphered and revealed?

      it's like?
    2. Atlas100
      Atlas100 11 October 2022 05: 27
      +1
      Young man! Have you ever heard about GLONAS control of freight transport and cargo transportation? All freight transport is controlled using the appropriate equipment installed directly in the car, the person who presses the button does not have to be in close proximity, you can generally be in another hemisphere. ...
  9. fiv
    fiv 10 October 2022 17: 16
    +6
    There are comments and additions to every second line of the article. If you list them, you get a series of articles. And if briefly:
    1. Did it explode on its own? No.
    2. Was there an explosive with a detonator in the truck? It was.
    3. Was the operation carried out to manufacture / disguise / deliver explosives to the bridge? Yes.
    4. Is the moment of explosion selected when passing through the train with fuel? Yes.
    5. Is the functionality of the bridge as an infrastructure object broken? Yes.
    6. Who is closer to the Russian Federation, who looks like a Russian, speaks like a Russian, behaves like a Russian, and who is much easier to turn everything on the territory of the Russian Federation - an Englishman or a Ukrainian? Ukrainians (or any representative of nationalities common to Ukraine and the Russian Federation).
    The conclusion is a SPECIAL operation, in which Ukrainian specialists in sabotage took an active part. This is what Ukraine and its leadership will answer for in the coming months. And those who were nearby, taught, gave matches - they will answer later, for everything at once. But not soon, I think. Or faster, but not in the way they think.
    1. vovochkarzhevsky
      vovochkarzhevsky 10 October 2022 18: 26
      -2
      2. Was there an explosive with a detonator in the truck? It was.


      VV was. But the detonator in the car is not at all mandatory. How does ammonium nitrate explode in the course? Meanwhile, a completely legal cargo, fertilizers. And for initiation and external influence, it’s enough, with the same rocket, or a disposable UAV.
      1. fiv
        fiv 10 October 2022 19: 26
        0
        Ammonium nitrate must be blown up even with a bat, it detonates very reluctantly. And you can just carry her in the back all your life, nothing will happen to her
        1. vovochkarzhevsky
          vovochkarzhevsky 10 October 2022 21: 04
          -1
          This is the most explosive saltpeter. And the warhead of the same "harpoon" is more than enough for detonation.
          1. fiv
            fiv 10 October 2022 21: 32
            +1
            With all due respect, but too many variables are obtained - they shoot down, they fly, they hit, they don’t hit, they blow up, they don’t blow up. I think everything is easier, as they wrote. Cellular, detonator, tolovaya saber - shellless large IEDs from homemade or industrial explosives.
            1. vovochkarzhevsky
              vovochkarzhevsky 10 October 2022 23: 44
              -1
              This is easier to find. And most importantly, residency is needed.
          2. Cuckoo
            Cuckoo 10 October 2022 23: 04
            0
            The most explosive potassium nitrate (from serial).
            1. vovochkarzhevsky
              vovochkarzhevsky 10 October 2022 23: 43
              -1
              It is also freely available. Without Borders.
              1. Cuckoo
                Cuckoo 11 October 2022 00: 26
                -1
                EMNIP, magnesium sulfate added to stabilize it.
                1. vovochkarzhevsky
                  vovochkarzhevsky 11 October 2022 08: 34
                  0
                  But in general, ammonium nitrate is called the most dangerous.
                  1. Cuckoo
                    Cuckoo 11 October 2022 10: 07
                    +2
                    But in general, ammonium nitrate is called the most dangerous.

                    Because it is the most massive and stored in huge quantities. And what happens to it when stored improperly, everyone saw in Beirut.
                    1. vovochkarzhevsky
                      vovochkarzhevsky 11 October 2022 19: 01
                      -1
                      Mass character has nothing to do with it, it's just that it is highly susceptible to detonation.
                      2NH4 NO3 → 2N2 + O 2 + 4H2O
    2. Whowhy
      Whowhy 10 October 2022 18: 41
      -3
      1. Did it explode on its own? No.

      "Was there a boy"?
      2. Was there an explosive with a detonator in the truck? It was.

      Why do you think so? The video ends abruptly when the "shnyaga" falls. No damage to the bridge is visible. The second truck was moving no further than 20 meters from "that one" and, in any case, should have been hit by a blast wave, or at least rolled into the water along the second long section of the collapsed roadway, but it calmly stands next to the passenger car, even not flinching from the impact of the collapsed spans of the bridge ....
      3. Was the operation carried out to manufacture / disguise / deliver explosives to the bridge? Yes.

      Here you are right in one thing - some kind of operation was definitely carried out (at least, the operation to install this cheap thing).
      4. Is the moment of explosion selected when passing through the train with fuel? Yes.

      Was he there for a week? Yes, and the tanks are burning as if something was smeared on them ....
      5. Is the functionality of the bridge as an infrastructure object broken? Yes.

      Here you are right, but was there an explosion at all with such and such damage? Well, for example, someone launched heavy equipment across the bridge, as always hoping for a Russian chance (by the way, in our city a very similar situation happened with a newly built bridge), and then disguised this incident
      under a terrorist attack and blamed everything on the poor "gays" ....
      1. fiv
        fiv 10 October 2022 19: 30
        +2
        Sala to Ukraine, comrade. Although I myself am not a military engineer or an investigator, you outdid me
  10. acetophenone
    acetophenone 10 October 2022 17: 25
    +5
    Thanks to the man for turning on his brains and trying to think it all over. The attempt is not entirely successful, for a C grade, and a point can be thrown for courage. So 4 is well deserved.
    As for the attack on the FSB. Yes, it's bad that they don't check transport. As for making...
    I am a chemist. Not a logistician, I don't know how to arrange the rental and delivery of an explosive charge. But even at the very youthful age, he could build something like that in a 200-liter barrel with his own hands. And for the lazy, there is the Web.
    PS After writing these words, I wanted to rummage around on the Web on this topic, but I thought about it ... Requests can also be tracked. And extra problems ... superfluous.
    1. for
      for 10 October 2022 18: 35
      -1
      Quote: acetophenon
      rummage on the web on this topic, but thoughtful ..

      Yes, in childhood (USSR), a neighbor had a book, I don’t remember the name, it was full of recipes.
  11. solar
    solar 10 October 2022 17: 27
    -1
    Nice sober article. Makes you turn your head on.
  12. PavelKosse
    PavelKosse 10 October 2022 17: 29
    -3
    I apologize in advance, but I have 3 questions for the author:
    1. The author seems to regret that the landmine was laid from his point of view "not correctly" and there was no directed explosion capable of destroying the bridge support "to dust". And there were no damaging elements. And, from the point of view of the author, it is necessary that all this be present ??
    2. The fact that the author actually promotes the idea that it is possible to make such a device at home is left out of the equation for now. But the question is different. Do we, the Russians, the Russian people, the Russian government, need to repent right now before fascist Ukraine? For the blown up bridge? Well, it follows from the context. The author believes that this terrorist act is more beneficial for Russia than for Ukraine. According to this logic, the terrorist attack in New York on September 11 was beneficial to the United States, because it more or less justified their invasion of Afghanistan. But that's off topic. Let's...
    3. Does the author really think that the daily shelling of Russian territories is no reason to strike at enemy infrastructure?
    Those. we had to wait for the terrorist attack on the Crimean bridge, and even then ...
    And if the author writes that it is beneficial to us, then what is he talking about ..?
    4. And excuse me, the fourth question, although I promised 3 ..
    Is the author ready to answer? Before new compatriots in Donetsk, Luhansk, Kherson? Before the soldiers who are now dying in the trenches?
    And before the law...
    Well, it's up to the Prosecutor's Office to decide. But for wartime, the article is too "incomprehensible".
    I have the honor.
    1. Cuckoo
      Cuckoo 10 October 2022 23: 06
      +1
      Probably ready. At least he set out the arguments logically, and not mixed with slogans.
  13. Ponimatel
    Ponimatel 10 October 2022 17: 40
    0
    The article is very superficial, without an analysis of the available facts and with strange conclusions. I will only touch on the issue of tanks. The author claims that a primitive charge of a relatively weak explosive was blown up. What should have happened to the wagons? That's right, under the influence of the shock wave, they had to tip over. Unless, of course, the explosion was strong enough. But the power of the explosion was not enough and all the cars remained standing on the rails. But why are they on fire? Here you need to imagine what a railroad tank is. This is a sixty-ton barrel designed to transport dangerous liquids, fuel, etc. That is, it is made very durable. The cylindrical shape of the tank also contributes to an increase in its resistance to external influences. From the sides it is "vaulted". And in order to break through it, you need to apply a relatively large effort. But the power of the explosion was not even enough to overturn the tanks, they could not be crushed so much that leaks appeared. So what happened to the tanks? There is a video that clearly shows that the tanks are badly damaged. From some of the fuel intensively flowed out and burned already outside the tank. The most forward of the burning tanks clearly had a hole in the upper part of the hull. How did she get such a hole? Truck wreckage? THIS IS NOT POSSIBLE! The railway bridge is much higher than the automobile one, plus the hole is located in the upper part of the tank. Thus, the wreckage of the truck would fly upwards at a very sharp angle. And if a piece of broken metal even got into the tank, then it should have ricocheted and the tank would have remained undamaged. But what happened happened. I'm certainly not an expert, but I believe that a simple explosion would either throw the tanks off the rails or not damage them. Why were the tanks broken? Perhaps because the explosion was specially prepared for this. I, not a specialist, imagine a directed explosion with striking elements. Only in this way could a relatively weak charge, as it were, “shoot through” strong tanks and at the same time not throw them off the tracks
    1. AYa_Mikhailov
      10 October 2022 20: 09
      -2
      Totally agree
      But - and who needs it, with the calculation of the radius of destruction and the coefficients of the destructive effect? I mean - to whom on this resource?
      That's why I wrote directly - I SIMPLIFY
      The hole in the upper part of the tank has a deformation nature, since the upper part of the tank is not filled, and below is an incompressible liquid, the upper part of the tank experiences a large tensile load - therefore such damage ... Not to mention the fact that an external explosion often leads to a breakdown hatches, because the pressure rises sharply inside. But who needs these subtleties?
      The article was not really about what the mechanism was
      The article was about thinking about the facts, not increasing the number of assumptions
      And also about how it was overslept by those who are not supposed to sleep.
    2. Cuckoo
      Cuckoo 10 October 2022 23: 12
      0
      So what happened to the tanks?

      Also elementary, Watson. Look at the fencing and lighting designs near the epicenter. They are not here. Like a cow licked with her tongue (by the way, like a passenger car that was driving nearby). This is the striking elements that pierced the tanks.
      Yes, the question remains: why weren’t the cars that drove behind the truck injured (and definitely not injured? We weren’t shown the investigative actions for the inspection). From the video it is not very clear the distance to them and behind (and in front) there were no bridge structures, but the elements of the truck themselves should have caused some damage. But, that's just in the forensics report, which we'll never see.
      1. Ponimatel
        Ponimatel 11 October 2022 06: 13
        0
        That's what I'm talking about. Tanks are pierced by striking elements. Only in this way a relatively weak (sparing) explosion could "shoot through" them.
  14. Aleksandr97
    Aleksandr97 10 October 2022 17: 42
    0
    Distinguish a freight car or platform from a railway. tanks can be real-time and satellite data. The timing of the detonation is not accidental and confirms the "donkey ears" of the Mi-6 or the CIA.
    But the fact that the terrorist attack was not at all impromptu, and was seriously prepared for a month and by a group of specialists, leaves room for sad reflections that at all stages of preparation they did not pierce anywhere ...
    The version that the driver of the truck was used blindly in this case is more plausible, since you still have to look for stubborn Slavic martyrs, and here the load is the load, like a normal truck job, and those who don’t know will not tell anyone anything!
  15. fif21
    fif21 10 October 2022 17: 43
    +2
    Without complete information, it is difficult to draw conclusions. Here I completely agree with the author.
    Let's wait for the results of the investigation. I would like to praise Marat Shakirzyanovich Khusnullin for the clear leadership of the restoration work. hi
  16. bk0010
    bk0010 10 October 2022 17: 46
    0
    As a citizen of our country, I want to say that the explosion on the Crimean bridge is not a victory for our enemies, it is a dazzling example of the negligence of law enforcement agencies and special services, our bodies and services
    The entire previous article contradicts this phrase.
  17. Whowhy
    Whowhy 10 October 2022 17: 51
    0
    I propose to be satisfied with the official version and not to get involved in this matter at all, because .... In general, as they say, - dictum sapienti sat est.
  18. PSih2097
    PSih2097 10 October 2022 18: 13
    +4
    well, if you remember about the explosions of houses in the 2000s and how the Ministry of Internal Affairs and the FSB then ran around ... It will be the same now, as they say "until the roasted rooster pecks, etc."
  19. Vladimir_2U
    Vladimir_2U 10 October 2022 18: 20
    +2
    relatively weak blast wave and the lack of direction of the explosion, it is clear that the explosive device and the explosive itself (BB) are very handicraft.
    Or the mass of explosives is relatively small, but the masking material is quite voluminous.
    The fact that it caught fire says that the temperature was not high, otherwise the explosive would have evaporated and burned out in the form of steam, and here are burning pieces.
    masking material.
    But debatable.


    Look at the footage of the military chronicle - from the flash of military explosives, the cameras simply “go blind” for 100–200 seconds, the matrices temporarily lose their entire dynamic range. It's a very cold flash.
    Complete nonsense! The very bright illumination of the bridge did not allow the matrix to be illuminated, i.e. it was adapted to the light, and the overexposure on the chronicle is due to the darkness before the explosion.

    To make striking elements is easier than a lung, I assure you, moreover, armor-piercing, it is simply illegal to discuss the technology. But it's very simple.
    Yes, that's just to detect them as easy as shelling pears, but all this had to pass the test on special equipment. So it's a completely inappropriate conclusion.

    Further, the explosive did not have a strong container, which greatly increases the damaging factors of the explosion, increasing the pressure, that is, the high-explosive action, not to mention the use of the container as a source of fragments.
    Also some kind of nonsense, how will the container open? Wouldn't they be checking it out? Transportation in a container truck, even a small one, is generally somehow strange.


    Another explosive was blown up by one volume, although it is possible to undermine the charges by placing them concentrically, which gives a high explosive effect.
    Then - the explosive was blown up without creating a directed explosion, which would turn the details of the bridge, especially the support - into dust, and not just knock out two or three sections of the canvas from the fasteners.
    Finally, the device is not made cumulative, which is not very difficult with such a large volume of the car body, and the cumulative device could be guaranteed to destroy the bridge structures.

    Dear author! The smallest truck that entered the bridge, or even entered the country, was used in the dark, with the likelihood of a thorough check and exactly with any kind of pallet overload! Well, what kind of cumulative, and huge devices, what kind of circular arrangement of charges?

    The operator could be either on the shore, watching through binoculars, or quietly driving in the car in front of the truck, about 200 meters away, in order to roughly imagine, based on his speed, where the truck is. Then it's just dialing...
    200 meters is a decent distance, and even at night, and even with a variable bridge profile, and with non-sour operator stress, the operator’s car could be detained, the truck could be detained. There can be no talk of any accuracy. And as for the operator from the shore, what is the distance for a clear definition of the truck, far from the only one. Yes, and with a beacon, in conditions of coarsening or distortion of the GPS signal, it’s also not very good.

    And this does not lead to the conclusion that this event was carried out by the reconnaissance and sabotage service of some state.
    Ahh, that's what! Normally so. Lovers on their knees got / mixed several hundred, up to several thousand kilograms of explosives, hired a truck and loaded it under a fake contract from a specially repurchased company, followed and blew it up, so what? Or is it by itself? Hand face!

    And so we have questions - how did the FSB of the Russian Federation and other services not prevent this crime?
    Because they were TECHNICALLY outplayed! Think!

    Statements by individual leaders of Ukraine, even official ones? Like, we poured "bad Muscovites"? Let's think about what else to say to them?

    Yes, it is beneficial for the leadership of Ukraine both from the political, and from the propaganda, and from the military-economic side - for the bridge to be destroyed. Does that mean they are?

    The third option - the customer was handed over by an accomplice. There is a complete zero. No one signed up as "accomplices" and said - I did it together with Zelensky.
    What are these conclusions? The author is generally friends with elementary logic, let alone something else? The fact that Khikhlomrazi themselves have repeatedly and stupidly disclosed is unknown to the author? The author does not know that the profits of the thugs with banking are even illusory, but the main thing is to spoil Russia's mind and eyes. Does the author not understand that a sane accomplice in a crime will generally keep quiet until they take him by the gills?
    The overall impression is that the author excuses Khikhlomrazey, but is trying to lead readers to the idea of ​​the involvement of the Russian special services in an attempt, fortunately not entirely successful, to undermine the bridge.
    1. AYa_Mikhailov
      10 October 2022 20: 13
      0
      The author is friends
      Not only with logic, but also with practice
      If you are interested in answers to your questions - I can. In PM
      Anyway, thanks for reading and commenting.
      And the shaped charge can be of any size. For example, like a barrel. And the larger it is, the easier it is to calculate - the significance of errors decreases ...
      1. Vladimir_2U
        Vladimir_2U 11 October 2022 06: 33
        0
        Quote: AYa_Mikhailov
        And the shaped charge can be of any size. For example, like a barrel. And the larger it is, the easier it is to calculate - the significance of errors decreases ...
        And I have no complaints about the size, I have a complaint about a sharp increase in the probability of detecting a charge.
        Quote: Vladimir_2U
        The smallest truck that drove onto the bridge, or even entered the country, was used in the dark, with the possibility of scrutiny and exactly with any kind of pallet overload!
    2. Cuckoo
      Cuckoo 10 October 2022 23: 16
      0
      the operator's car could be detained, the truck could be detained.

      There could be two operators, duplication. They would have detained the truck, rushed to the post - even a tuft of wool from a black sheep.
  20. KCA
    KCA 10 October 2022 18: 32
    +1
    If, indeed, an unprofessional explosive was used, and, for example, potassium nitrate with coal and other components, it was also wrapped in polyethylene, the sensors might not determine how the explosive, the dog would work, the electronics would not, then you can use this fact as the desire to hide any direction of search, as a child I bought saltpeter and made rockets, went to the store and just bought it, buy potassium permanganate at the pharmacy at least a kilogram, silver in any household store, I had a piece of sulfur at least half a kilo in weight, my father got it somewhere, fumigate the barn where the male lived, making coal is not a problem at all
  21. Spasatel
    Spasatel 10 October 2022 18: 32
    0
    That's right, the author!
    It is always necessary to turn on the brain, especially in such cases.
    And if this was planned and carried out by simple "patriots" of the independent, of which there are a dime a dozen in Russia? There are no consequences for the involvement of a serious state ...
    In addition, we have our own patented "grandmaster" of foreign and domestic policy, an unsurpassed "multi-move"...
  22. Plate
    Plate 10 October 2022 18: 38
    0
    The secret services are obliged to know in real time, to know that everyone capable of making explosives is either busy with something else, or does not have access to raw materials and components, or - right now they are doing it - under the "supervision" of an embedded employee who will control its movement right up to another group of “bad guys”, who will not only be “taken hot”, but also with pre-prepared soldering irons, tuned precisely to help in a frank recognition - who, when and how ordered all this to be organized.

    I beg you, the author, with a chain of chemical transformations that allows you to get quite explosive nitroglycerin, they acquaint everyone in the tenth grade. Yes, and the chains for obtaining TNT, I remember, were painted on the board purely for fun. I remember that my friend and I began to think about where we could get the initial components on the legal market. As a result, they did not understand only where to get sulfuric acid (it is needed as a catalyst for the nitration of toluene or glycerin).
    All this, of course, was only in theory. I don't know what difficulties we would face if we tried to really implement all this, because we did not try. But I think these issues are solvable. The main thing is that there is a completely understandable chain of transformations.
    Oh yeah, I think if we add some resourceful C-boy to us, he would figure out where to get sulfuric acid from.
    1. Bolt cutter
      Bolt cutter 10 October 2022 18: 50
      +1
      allowing you to get quite explosive nitroglycerin
      Nobel did not invent nitroglycerin, but did something much more complicated - he developed a technology for its production and storage, which did not guarantee self-detonation. The nitration reaction is simple on a blackboard; in real life, this is a very complex process, and the nuances must either be subtracted from a book that you cannot find in a store, or learn from your own experience. The latter will require the total number of lives of at least three cats.
      sulfuric acid (needed as a catalyst for nitration
      As an absorber of the reaction-suppressing water released during this very reaction.
      1. solar
        solar 10 October 2022 19: 27
        +4
        Nobel did not invent nitroglycerin, but did something much more complicated

        He invented dynamite - a mixture of nitroglycerin with an adsorbent that reduces the sensitivity of nitroglycerin, invented detonators based on mercury fulminate and made an installation for continuous mixing of glycerin with nitric acid to obtain nitroglycerin. That is, made nitroglycerin cheaper, safer and more practical to use.
        1. Bolt cutter
          Bolt cutter 10 October 2022 19: 47
          0
          safer and more practical to use.
          He made it possible to use nitroglycerin in practice, and not as a scientific curiosity. And above all, its safe synthesis with a high yield.
      2. Plate
        Plate 10 October 2022 19: 31
        +1
        Quote: Bolt Cutter
        The nitration reaction is simple on a blackboard; in real life, this is a very complex process, and the nuances must either be subtracted from a book that you cannot find in a store, or learn from your own experience. The latter will require the total number of lives of at least three cats.

        Well, great - a good defense against school terrorists.
        However, I think making some kind of abracadabra that can explode is realistic for anyone who wants to do it.
    2. solar
      solar 10 October 2022 19: 19
      0
      they did not understand only where to get sulfuric acid

      in a hardware store or reagent store. Only now sulfuric acid is a precursor. They do not sell to private individuals.
      1. Deep Diver
        Deep Diver 11 October 2022 17: 11
        -1
        Only now sulfuric acid is a precursor. They do not sell to private individuals.

        Open Avito
        1. solar
          solar 11 October 2022 22: 54
          0
          Opened. Not without it. They sell differently. Some stipulate.
          1. Deep Diver
            Deep Diver 12 October 2022 10: 23
            -1
            Most don't. But it doesn’t matter, it’s important that acid, which seems to be impossible to sell, is quietly sold, and not somewhere on the darknet, but on the largest classifieds site in the Russian Federation
    3. AYa_Mikhailov
      10 October 2022 20: 15
      -1
      Thank you
      That's exactly what I said, by the way.
      So you don't even have to beg me.
      BUT
      There is no need to look for a "triple guy". It's illegal. Even in dreams.
      1. Plate
        Plate 10 October 2022 20: 44
        0
        Quote: AYa_Mikhailov
        There is no need to look for a "triple guy". It's illegal. Even in dreams.

        In my dreams, I'm wreaking havoc on a galactic scale (I love Stellaris). To think about isolated terrorist attacks after such an uninteresting one.
    4. Cuckoo
      Cuckoo 10 October 2022 23: 20
      0
      The main thing is that there is a completely understandable chain of transformations.

      These are bulk purchases of chemical components, equipment, time for manufacturing, storage of finished explosives. Chemically, it is simple, organizationally complex and unmaskable. Easier: saltpeter, sugar and diesel fuel.
      1. Plate
        Plate 10 October 2022 23: 38
        +1
        If I'm buying legal components and equipment, what's the problem? And in order to detect explosives, it is necessary to conduct a search, and for this, as I understand it, to have some weighty suspicions. Well, you yourself wrote it, how simpler it is. Again, the conclusion is the same: absolutely anyone can make a bomb if they wish.
  23. for
    for 10 October 2022 18: 43
    0
    Quote: Aleksandr97
    The synchronization of the undermining is not accidental and confirms

    They peeped the train schedule from the satellite and how could they guess the time of the traffic jam truck, the inspection point?
    1. Cuckoo
      Cuckoo 10 October 2022 23: 21
      0
      They were driving in real time from a close distance and when they saw the tanks they decided to blow them up nearby, although it would be more effective to call at the apogee of the arch. This also seems to be the hand of non-professionals.
  24. Crisp
    Crisp 10 October 2022 19: 23
    0
    Quote from solar
    when will the person observing and holding the detonation console be deciphered and revealed?

    it's like?

    Mochmya. Doesn't the synchronization of movement and standing of two cars cause suspicion? Video surveillance, the magic of modernity.
    1. Plate
      Plate 10 October 2022 23: 42
      0
      Every second passer-by causes suspicion in me. If I was an official of the authorities, could I check them all? I don't think.
  25. Crisp
    Crisp 10 October 2022 19: 26
    0
    Quote: for
    Quote: Aleksandr97
    The synchronization of the undermining is not accidental and confirms

    They peeped the train schedule from the satellite and how could they guess the time of the traffic jam truck, the inspection point?

    Sucks near the bridge, where there are no traffic jams. The inspection point is either bought or ruined by drunkenness and well studied in advance. Or external control of the escort, or a kamikaze driver. Any dispatcher on duty at the station knows the traffic schedules, which trains and the timing of passage up to minutes. Moreover, they say that the train was standing on the bridge. Unprecedented thing. Could the meeting station dispatcher slow down the traffic? Calmly. The station tracks, you see, are busy. And fit all the components to the meeting. Wherever needed. Think Newton's binomial.
  26. 3x3zsave
    3x3zsave 10 October 2022 19: 38
    +1
    It became interesting, but what will the author say about the "twin towers"?
  27. _palych_
    _palych_ 10 October 2022 20: 00
    +2
    What kind of sketch I read that someone quickly turned on the electricity.
  28. runway-1
    runway-1 10 October 2022 20: 22
    0
    In my opinion, it was posted on TikTok: some person played frame by frame the recording of the explosion and claims that it happened in front of the truck!
    1. Vladimir_2U
      Vladimir_2U 11 October 2022 07: 26
      0
      Quote: WFP-1
      In my opinion, it was posted on TikTok: some person played frame by frame the recording of the explosion and claims that it happened in front of the truck!

      Uh-huh, only this man was staring at the truck that was following the explosion.
      1. runway-1
        runway-1 11 October 2022 17: 36
        +1
        Uh-huh, only this man was staring at the truck that was following the explosion.
        Probably.
  29. Knell wardenheart
    Knell wardenheart 10 October 2022 21: 02
    +1
    And so we have questions - how did the FSB of the Russian Federation and other services not prevent this crime?

    To be fair, could it really?
    Let's assume that there are a certain number of individuals, like D. Dugina, who recently blew up the car in the Russian Federation. Among a couple of millions of Zrobitchan who changed their citizenship, relatives, etc., they could get into an easy one. Look for candles. The residents of Zrobitch sent some money to their homeland - they were sent some money from there, they could rent some kind of real estate, garages, country houses "de facto", not necessarily officially - through "envelopes", for example. Here, our people are filming something with might and main, the devil himself will break his leg in these schemes, and the scale of the problem is huge. A number of these characters could be acquired in traditional agricultural regions - as temporary residents, job seekers, agricultural laborers. There, significant amounts of substances needed for explosives are bought, sold, transported and stored - both by private companies and larger ones. So are private individuals. Among all this diversity, significant volumes could well have been mixed up, bought in advance or REBUYED from those from whom they were bought in advance. Because if your business has gone bankrupt, you just have to sell it, at least to someone - if only faster and more profitable. You will not keep records and warn your beloved state about this. Cash and dispersed , no taxes or fees. You will not even have any special questions where and why - after all, some necessary part can be purchased from you. And some other one. And then collect everything you need in some inconspicuous shed - which some uncle Petya will kindly provide you (for cash), to whom you will tell that you are launching a business this spring, and you "just need the cheapest warehouse" and "deliver from time to time" .
    Electricity? Yes, please, even a generator, even a heated greenhouse according to the documents. Water? Gas? Every whim for your money. Electronic components ? Aliexpress is at your service. Chemical reagents and glassware ? Probably the most "muddy" moment - but again, everything that is possible from this list - will be bought for cash and used. Do not track. All the most muddled things will be bought en masse for some "Ashot Ashotovich Ashotov" at the head of Khimposuda 667 LLC, a one-day company "sort of like" dealing with some petty retail online nonsense. According to documents. Yes, thousands of them. Then Ashot Ashotovich will calmly set sail a month before "D-Day" across the border.

    This whole scheme is NOT really preventable in OUR country. Because we have a lot not according to signs, but "according to concepts." The state is taxing people - they prefer "gray cash" and unregistered leasing, unregistered work and so on. Ask them - what the hell? And they will answer, what for should I share? What will I get for this, what did I get in general? And if you screw in the nuts here - the paradigm "what will I get for this?" She after all not painfully will change from this.

    Then they find the same Uncle Petya, a bomber carrier, they tell him - "Daragoe, take the boxes, the orange-tangerine is rotting! We'll pay in cash" - and that's it, he went. Who doesn't need cash and no taxes? They will go by their own car, especially if they have a dopensak, after all, they need to turn around somehow, they are still grateful to Svetloliky for raising the exit age. From this they were not more willing to take them to work.

    And then everything is like on an ointment - there are services for online tracking of goods on the way (here it is right on the map), there is a mobile connection.

    And then "people will rush to look for furniture" - but there is no furniture. They spoke with Uncle Petya through a stolen or "gray" SIM card, from a stolen mobile phone. Through the network, in general, all orders went, for example, from the Czech Republic. Inconspicuous people of working appearance will simply dissolve in some industrial zone, and the barn will burn down, for example. Is it enough to burn sheds from rotten wiring?
    1. Cuckoo
      Cuckoo 10 October 2022 23: 24
      0
      100% and of course they couldn't. Question: How long have you tried? Or they were busy with other things: searching for foreign agents, "traitors" to the motherland among scientists and journalists.
  30. tsvetahaki
    tsvetahaki 10 October 2022 22: 09
    +3
    This is important to understand because discussion of this topic in the context of the SVO with a deviation from the official position can be interpreted as violating the law.

    So what's the point of this article before the official version? They can plant.
    Further, this strike, no matter how you turn it, is an act of terrorism

    Why all of a sudden? This is for us SVO - for them war. Since when is the destruction (attempt) of the enemy's bridge a terrorism? Well, how many acts of terror did our aviation and partisans do during the Patriotic War ???
    And about responsibility. If they change the "blogger" who tortured and killed our wounded tanker and filmed and published the procedure - along with similar guys - then they should hardly be afraid of any responsibility.
    1. Cuckoo
      Cuckoo 10 October 2022 23: 27
      +2
      Since when is the destruction (attempt) of the enemy's bridge a terrorism?

      So Yes. Rather, these are acts of terrorism on our part, because. we still lack the courage to officially declare war (either commercial interests do not give, or clearer reasons are needed to justify the war).
    2. Plate
      Plate 10 October 2022 23: 50
      0
      Quote from tsvetahaki
      Why all of a sudden? This is for us SVO - for them war.

      And we do not care about the point of view of the opponent. We said a barbaric, terrible and senseless act of terrorism and cruelty from a military point of view - so it is.
  31. faterdom
    faterdom 10 October 2022 23: 08
    +1
    Without participating in the work of the commission and without, accordingly, having access to investigative and operational data, I would never have taken to comment on something, and even more so to write articles.
    It will be either an amateurish fantasy, or a psychological sabotage hinting at something, like "Mr. Hexogen".
    So, once again, respect and respect to Yulian Semenov, who, without claiming to be documentary and discovering truths, nevertheless seriously prepared for any of his novels, studied the facts and talked with eyewitnesses, and even participants in the events. And he didn’t sprinkle on a whim from above.
    And let's say thanks to the "Yarovaya Law" against which all our "best people in the country" swelled for the fact that in many complicated stories it became 80% and faster to establish the truth.
  32. Crisp
    Crisp 10 October 2022 23: 59
    +1
    Quote: Plate
    Every second passer-by causes suspicion in me. If I was an official of the authorities, could I check them all? I don't think.

    You are inverting the possibilities of the investigation. IT ON VIDIKAM finds a criminal network. After committing crimes. First of all, no one can. If only by accident. Or when the mole is infiltrated into the gang. We found suicide bombers. According to genetics, relatives were found, if this type had already dealt with law enforcement officers in the past - fingerprints, the shape of the jaws, legs, and other things that can be identified. Further . Cellular, computer communications of this person during his lifetime. Operators are required to store the content of the conversations and subscriber numbers ..... Further, is it clear? When they introduced a system that allows the FSB to control, there was an all-Russian howl. SURVEILLANCE!!!!! STALIN'S GULAG!!!! Doodles. This is the only way to work with the available opportunities. If you are in no eye with terror, no one is interested in you. They don't even know what you are.
  33. Hamman
    Hamman 11 October 2022 06: 55
    0
    Somehow I flew on a business trip, and in my bag there was a smart projector (the size is slightly smaller than a Rubik's cube, and so in Damodedovo at the inspection post I had to get the projector out of the bag and demonstrate its work) on the x-ray it looked like some kind of incomprehensible device.
  34. seamen2
    seamen2 11 October 2022 08: 14
    0
    * to the question of the value of oral competitions * .. the title of the article reminded me. it happens in the comments in vk, if you answer with reason, without swearing, with the provision of facts, to the stupid manipulations of those drowning for ukraine - insults begin, that is, a scam for emotions and ... begging for an address.
    1. AYa_Mikhailov
      12 October 2022 00: 52
      0
      exactly.
      and with the assessment of "pro-Ukrainian troll."
      used to.
  35. Spark-tia
    Spark-tia 11 October 2022 08: 26
    -2
    They aimed not so much at the bridge as at the reputation of our leadership. This conclusion is ALREADY correct. The Chinese publication says I read it on RV. 70 years of Putin.
    Burning pieces scattered, the temperature is not as high as it could be in an ideal explosion. W-well, something can be concluded here, professionals. Our specialists have not yet published all the data and all the conclusions.
  36. Reader 47
    Reader 47 11 October 2022 09: 01
    -1
    It is a pity the time spent on the article and that such articles appear on VO. It's called DEMAGOGY. "We know we don't know anything about 1,2,3." However, the overall focus is clearly pro-Ukrainian.
    1. zenion
      zenion 12 October 2022 21: 03
      0
      Homogy. At the same time, he warned that whoever writes something other than what he wrote, then five years of execution. More like, as Schweik said, keep your mouth shut and serve. Flies pissed off the portrait of the emperor 10 years of strict regime. Either they frighten with plates, then their dogs bark, then the ruins speak.
  37. Comrade Kim
    Comrade Kim 12 October 2022 05: 13
    +1
    Quote: Tatiana
    The author in his article, in fact, acts as an ADVOCATE of the Kyiv Zelensky regime in Ukraine.

    Yes, we have enough "our" zashitnichkov.
    One R. Abramovich is worth something.
    He tells the Nazis to be patient for a couple of days, he finished the blows.
    Is it a citizen of Israel, a Jew, the main military leader in Russia?

    https://t.me/obrazbuduschego2/11546
  38. Former soldier
    Former soldier 13 October 2022 00: 41
    0
    If you think like an author, then why is the Andreevsky Bridge constantly shelled by hymers, and the spans and supports are intact. The answer is simple - they can fire at that, there is a short-term effect. They simply didn’t bother with the same bridge - they collected what they could and prepared as best they could. We thought that 22 tons of explosives would be enough for the eyes. How do they know how many explosives are needed to thoroughly demolish the bridge. And in general, in a complex combination it is easier to make a mistake. Fewer moves and a simple option is more realistic to implement.