Military correspondents: General Surovikin appointed to command military special operation

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Military correspondents: General Surovikin appointed to command military special operation

Recently, in the Internet community of Runet, commenting on the events in Ukraine, there has been a lot of criticism of the high command responsible for conducting the special operation. Indeed, there are many reasons for this - just look at the chronicle of events at the front over the past few weeks. Obviously not under pressure from the public, but based on military expediency, personnel changes began in the highest echelons of the RF Armed Forces, affecting both logistics and even defense industry enterprises.

According to the latest information, which has not yet been officially confirmed, by order of the Supreme Commander-in-Chief, General of the Army Sergei Surovikin has been appointed to the post of commander of the entire special military operation (SVO) in Ukraine. Military analysts and military correspondents to this news The response was mostly positive, although with some caution.



They say that Surovikin was appointed commander of the NMD - this complex process has a responsible owner

- Alexander Sladkov, a reporter for the All-Russian State Television and Radio Broadcasting Company, wrote on his Telegram channel.

Telegram channel "On the march":

On his anniversary, Vladimir Putin personally called General Surovikin and appointed him commander of the NMD. PMC "Wagner" congratulates Sergei Vladimirovich on a responsible mission and a burden of the president's confidence. We wish only one thing - Victory!

The commander of the Vostok battalion, Alexander Khodakovsky, generally reacted positively to the possible appointment of Surovikin as commander of the NMD. He believes that such a decision will simplify the interaction between the commanders of the middle and lower levels and the top leadership of the army:

If this works, then this is good: a look at the situation from the ground is more objective than from the conference room.

At the same time, Khodakovsky notes that such an appointment “did not please Surovikin himself.” The battalion commander believes that now, in the struggle invisible to the public among groups of influence in the General Staff of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation, Surovikin, who is opposed to Colonel General Alexander Lapin (commanders the Center group in Ukraine), becomes responsible for everything that happens at the front, and now he is " all dogs will be hanged":

There is no better way to bring down Surovikin than to put him in charge of the operation, despite the fact that the operation does not shine yet, and all the main levers remain with the opponents.

Khodakovsky is sure that the struggle in the upper echelons of the military command looks natural in itself. He does not believe that it is necessary to urgently dismiss "the entire old guard", the main representative of which is called General Lapin. But in the conditions of warfare, special, anti-crisis methods of management should be used.

This applies to all areas, including the economy. Next year will be difficult - you need to be prepared

calls Khodakovsky.

Information about the appointment of Surovikin has not yet been officially confirmed. It is known that this 55-year-old military man was born in Novosibirsk, graduated with honors from the Frunze Omsk Higher All-Arms Command School, and began his military service as a commander of a motorized rifle platoon.

In October 2017, Surovikin was appointed Commander-in-Chief of the Russian Aerospace Forces. He was awarded the Gold Star of the Hero of Russia. In August 2021, he received the military rank of General of the Army. In June 2022, Army General Sergei Surovikin was appointed commander of the Southern Group of Forces in Ukraine.

Army General Sergei Surovikin has extensive combat experience: he fought in Chechnya, led the Eastern Military District, and commanded a grouping of the Russian Armed Forces in Syria. In the troops, the commander was nicknamed "General Armageddon."

It was under his command that the Ukrainian group in the "Gorsky cauldron" was destroyed, Severodonetsk was liberated, the hostages from the Azot plant were rescued. It is noted that his units always suffer the least losses on the battlefield.
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  1. +9
    8 October 2022 10: 40
    Let's fight - we'll see. It's good at least that someone has appeared who will be responsible for everything that happens or does not happen in the NWO. As I understand it, now the decision to strike at "decision-making centers! Will he make it? That is, is he also responsible for the Crimean bridge?
    1. +27
      8 October 2022 10: 42
      Quote: avia12005
      Let's fight - we'll see. It's good at least that someone has appeared who will be responsible for everything that happens or does not happen in the NWO. As I understand it, now the decision to strike at "decision-making centers! Will he make it? That is, is he also responsible for the Crimean bridge?

      Oh is it? Not political leadership?
      1. 0
        8 October 2022 11: 44
        In the troops, the commander was nicknamed "General Armageddon."

        I'm waiting for "Armageddon" for the dill at the front and in their rear.
        1. -2
          9 October 2022 03: 21
          Wanguyu .. He will arrange Armageddon for his own. Heard.
          1. +2
            9 October 2022 05: 52
            If you didn’t personally fight under his leadership, then you don’t need to spread gossip
            1. +2
              9 October 2022 18: 33
              I didn’t fight under his leadership. A friend of mine owns a small body of water. Vips come to him to go fishing. Both Surovikin and Gurulev and the former governor Tkachev noted .. I saw the book of honored guests. Surovikin left an unpleasant impression.
          2. 0
            9 October 2022 09: 10
            alexey alekseev_2 Heard.

            I haven't heard. I saw and heard him. Explosive, it’s better not to fall under a hot hand, it will break.
            1. +1
              9 October 2022 18: 38
              Especially when he drinks. The late Zhukov was also like that. Explosive. Although we'll see. Command in Syria is not an indicator.
              1. -1
                9 October 2022 18: 43
                alexey alekseev_2 Command in Syria is not an indicator. Lapin is also a "Syrian"

                It is not appropriate to compare the fighting in the SAR and Ukraine. Everything is much more complicated here.
      2. TIR
        +11
        8 October 2022 20: 40
        If Putin personally appointed him to this position (and not Shoigu, as it should be), then I understand that the responsibility will be given directly to the president. That is, the politicians began to control the war. And following Putin's age-related peacefulness, this is very bad for the NWO. Since all power moves were hampered by politicians and the inner circle of the oligarchs. I am 100% sure that there will be no strikes for the Crimean bridge.

        If everyone thinks that the attack on the bridge was for the purpose of intimidation, then these people are deeply mistaken. It was a planned decision to cut off supplies to the Kherson Group of Forces. And at the same time, the Armed Forces of Ukraine sent greetings to our political impotents with their fear of hitting the logistics and headquarters of the enemy. There is no other name for this fear and sabotage. I think in the next 1-2 days the Armed Forces of Ukraine will deliver a cutting blow from Zaporozhye towards the Sea of ​​Azov. And then they will attack the weakened Kherson. All the same, for such attacks they have strike groups with excellent intelligence and good leadership. Faith is no longer in any general
        1. +2
          9 October 2022 09: 14
          TIR ..... Putin appointed him to this position (and not Shoigu as it should be)

          S. Shoigu, according to his status, should not be in charge of military operations, he is in charge of the General Staff.
    2. ZoV
      +3
      8 October 2022 10: 49
      Quote: avia12005
      Let's fight - we'll see. It’s good at least that someone has appeared who will be responsible for everything that happens or does not happen in the NWO

      I agree, otherwise it’s all the General Staff and Putin .. And you won’t understand who commands whom
      Thank God, the shake-up of fat generals and their sycophants has begun ..
      Quote: avia12005
      As I understand it, now the decision to strike at "decision-making centers! Will he make it? That is, is he also responsible for the Crimean Bridge?

      Most likely, the supreme gave him such powers. hi
      Otherwise, all these incomprehensible offensive retreats are already terribly annoying to the people. Stop interfering with the Army, let it complete the task as it should soldier
      I'm sure she'll make it hi
      1. +6
        8 October 2022 11: 57
        supported and plused, I also hope the General Staff, together with the Ministry of Defense, will be removed from command and there will be a simple vertical (without a gasket, which is always good) and decisions will be made faster and tougher (if necessary)
        1. ZoV
          +1
          8 October 2022 12: 11
          Quote: Vitaliy161
          supported and plused, I also hope the General Staff, together with the Ministry of Defense, will be removed from command and there will be a simple vertical (without a gasket, which is always good) and decisions will be made faster and tougher (if necessary)

          So right, I agree! soldier
          It's time to restore army order in the troops and especially in the highest echelons of power .. The time for chatter is over! Fatherland in danger negative
    3. +9
      8 October 2022 10: 50
      Quote: avia12005
      Let's fight - we'll see.

      "In the army, the commander was nicknamed" General Armageddon "."
      boom hope the nickname will justify
      1. ZoV
        +2
        8 October 2022 12: 21
        Quote: poquello
        Quote: avia12005
        Let's fight - we'll see.

        "In the army, the commander was nicknamed" General Armageddon "."
        boom hope the nickname will justify

        I think everything will be fine good soldier Stop liberalizing at the expense of the lives of soldiers and civilians
    4. +26
      8 October 2022 10: 57
      Hardly he! Only a hero of the day can make such decisions in our country. And if he delegates such powers down, then only in case of failure to write off everything on others.
      1. +4
        8 October 2022 13: 13
        Quote: Quote Lavrov
        And if he delegates such powers down, then only in case of failure to write off everything on others.

        This is his natural state and actions.
    5. -16
      8 October 2022 11: 03
      Well-u-u! How do you feel! He was put in charge of the miscalculations of the political leadership, which makes decisions and is not responsible for their implementation! Well, just like in the post-Stalin era - an individual political decision followed by collective responsibility! And only the executor of idiotic orders is guilty! Roughly speaking, they appointed another "scapegoat"!
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    7. +14
      8 October 2022 11: 28
      avia12005:
      Let's fight - we'll see.

      — Surovkin is the winner! Held the Southern Front. And in Syria, he cleaned up after weaklings with stripes. Demanding and responsible commander!

      —- And Surovkin - Commander-in-Chief of the Aerospace Forces! Good luck to you, General - in defense and offensive! Health to you and your family!!
      1. +2
        8 October 2022 13: 22
        Quote: Michael Drabkin

        — Surovkin is the winner! Held the Southern Front. And in Syria, he cleaned up after weaklings with stripes. Demanding and responsible commander!

        —- And Surovkin - Commander-in-Chief of the Aerospace Forces! Good luck to you, General - in defense and offensive! Health to you and your family!!

        He is the General of the Aerospace Forces ... I really hope that it is the Aerospace Forces who will begin to make the main contribution to the conveyor for the supply of 200 and 300 to the ranks of ukrov. A complex person, the Naval officers are wary of him (in fact, the Naval (command) generally cope with their tasks poorly, a separate plus only to the Marines!)
        I can only say one thing - there are Talents in the Army and the Navy and in the Aerospace Forces. I hope the "foam" subsides - professionals will come soldier
        1. AAK
          -2
          8 October 2022 16: 19
          I don’t know, in my opinion, the commander of the operation should be a military man with combined arms training, but we’ll see ...
          1. +9
            8 October 2022 18: 40
            He was appointed with combined arms training to command the VKS. In 1987 he graduated with a gold medal from the Omsk Higher All-Arms Command School named after M.V. Frunze.
          2. +4
            8 October 2022 22: 22
            Surovikin is a pure combined arms officer - he graduated from the combined arms school, the Frunze Academy, the General Staff Academy. He also commanded a motorized rifle platoon and a combined arms army and troops of the military district. Of the chiefs of the Main Operational Directorate, the General Staff asked to return to the troops. He was appointed Commander-in-Chief of the Aerospace Forces as an organizer of diverse forces. Vaughn, combined arms soldier Batitsky commanded the country's Air Defense Forces for many years.
          3. -1
            10 October 2022 01: 38
            Quote: AAK
            I don’t know, in my opinion, the commander of the operation should be a military man with combined arms training, but we’ll see ...


            In my opinion, the commander should be a general with a head. The rest is secondary
        2. +3
          9 October 2022 05: 23
          The naval ones can keep quiet modestly, so far, there is no sense from them except for firing from the parking lots. In the course, it’s time to write off many to the shore in the infantry (remember the experience of the Second World War)
        3. +1
          9 October 2022 06: 03
          He is a motorized rifleman, VKS has been in command for 5 years, a clean ground soldier with aviation command experience is a good option
    8. +11
      8 October 2022 11: 29
      Everything was reset for half a year, and then the next general and the next. The main thing is that there are no questions to YOURSELF.
    9. +4
      8 October 2022 15: 05
      Comrade General, plan correctly the "put out the light" operation, turn off the water and communications for the gopkompaniya, which now rules in Kiev. Bridges across the Dnieper and border crossings on the western border should be demolished.
      1. +2
        8 October 2022 20: 13
        Comrade General, plan the operation correctly

        A lot of time has been lost, somehow they got a lot of "interesting" weapons, and they didn't gain a foothold. And in order to reverse the situation, some kind of extraordinary move is needed. Good luck general.
    10. -1
      8 October 2022 17: 57
      You are absolutely right in posing this ALREADY LONG OLD, in the context of its relevance and the very OBJECTIVE logic of successfully solving the main tasks of the NWO, the question ...

      But I have strong fears that our main Kremlin "lecturer on history" just "forgot" to do this. And respect. General Surovikin, having been appointed Commander of the Northern Military District, will become just another "extreme".

      After all, he needs not only "powers" to make INDEPENDENT decisions to strike at the "decision-making centers" of the Kyiv Natsiks. Blows - CONTINUOUS, MASSIVE, TARGETED, in the direction - "TOP - DOWN". At his disposal, it is also necessary to provide the OBJECTIVELY necessary forces and means for this. In particular, to subordinate to him, promptly and harshly - DIRECTLY, for the time of the NMD, up to the complete and successful solution of its main tasks, parts of the Aerospace Forces (including those from Long-Range Aviation) and the Navy of the Russian Armed Forces. Without this, there will be no "delivering" strikes on the "decision-making centers" of the Kyiv Natsiks. Moreover, timely and effective strikes, and not, as has already been customary since February 24, - one-time "demonstratively ostentatious". With the subsequent, peppy comments of the "konashenkovs" ...

      After all, WITHOUT THE START OF DELIVERING such strikes against the "decision-making centers" of the Kyiv Natsiks - UNINTERRUPTED, MASSIVE and PURPOSED, NOTHING WILL CHANGE during the CMD ...

      But as I understand it, now the main Kremlin inhabitant is much more busy than the "Crimean Bridge" with his "preparation" for participation in the so-called. "Big Twenty". And to "possible negotiations" in her "lobbies" with the Kyiv clown brought there by Uncle Sam. "negotiations", which are strongly and intrusively promoted by the main "thimble mediator" Erdogan. Very successfully, in favor of Ankara, "spreading" all parties and, first of all, Moscow ...
      1. TIR
        0
        8 October 2022 20: 51
        The fact that they want to leave him extreme in case of failures can not be argued. But let's think logically from what force is our government more afraid of getting a cap for failures? It is logical that the citizens of Russia are not included in this list. If the authorities were afraid of our disapproval, then there would not be such an open, disregarding step as a pension scam and zeroing. Moreover, all this was done not just openly, but in a cynical form and did not give a damn about people's opinion. Most of all, our government is afraid of international condemnation. In which case, the authorities can always accuse the commander of the NWO of exceeding his authority and all that. And as a punishment to send him for 20 years in a colony. Or to The Hague for trial. Here's what it's put in for. Well, without the decision of the General Staff, the Moscow Region and Shoigu personally, he will not move the forces he needs from the depths of Russia. Brad
    11. 0
      8 October 2022 18: 38
      he commanded the rocket troops)
    12. -2
      8 October 2022 21: 31
      The aviation regiment in Gromovo near St. Petersburg is not in the ass, but 10 centimeters deeper. Ay Surovikin!! Those were your penates!!))
    13. -1
      9 October 2022 18: 05
      Quote: avia12005
      As I understand it, now the decision to strike at "decision-making centers! Will he make it? That is, is he also responsible for the Crimean Bridge?

      He does not have at his disposal cruise missiles and long-range aviation. And so, our generals do not decide anything. Their any order can be canceled by a simple official from Putin's administration. It's in the American army, if it's waging war, any general on a mission can send the president to hell if he thinks he's getting in the way of the goal.
      The Russian military has always been spineless and tremble in front of any official.
  2. +23
    8 October 2022 10: 40
    You understand? There was no NWO commander. The results are not surprising.
    1. +12
      8 October 2022 13: 21
      Quote from cold wind
      The results are not surprising.
      Yes, we are no longer surprised by much, although questions arise.
      One of them: how is it with a 2-million Army (more precisely: army + guards) suddenly needed mobilization to do something that is not clear, which is not called a war. That is, those people who paid taxes throughout their work activities, including those who have to perform these tasks, were called in to carry out military tasks. They are given the opportunity to restore the knowledge gained in the Army and forward to the front. Where is our Army? I'm not talking about those 200-300 thousand that are there in Ukraine, but about the rest.
      Another question: where is the fuel (and from whose oil) in the ukrov military equipment? why does the new NATO equipment go to the front without any problems? etc
    2. +14
      8 October 2022 13: 41
      Quote from cold wind
      You understand? There was no NWO commander. The results are not surprising.

      Yah? Well, then there is a person who, knowing that the organizational structure of the command is organized like a gypsy camp, gave the order to start the NWO. I wonder who it could be what
    3. 0
      9 October 2022 06: 06
      It seems like Dvornikov was before him, they removed
  3. +4
    8 October 2022 10: 40
    It’s time for the Supreme to think about it after today’s shame, create a Headquarters (with everything attached), and turn to “Brothers and sisters ..”
    1. +4
      8 October 2022 10: 44
      And to think who will be able to lead it in such a difficult time for the country?
      1. -7
        8 October 2022 12: 10
        And to think who will be able to lead it in such a difficult time for the country?
        Are you not?
      2. +5
        8 October 2022 13: 17
        Quote: Pereira
        And to think who will be able to lead it in such a difficult time for the country?

        Who should think? In vain, did the circus suit the constitution?
    2. +6
      8 October 2022 10: 45
      Quote: dmi.pris
      It’s time for the Supreme to think about it after today’s shame, create a Headquarters (with everything attached), and turn to “Brothers and sisters ..”

      Why is it clear only to us? The Defense Ministry has no authority, no one is ultimately responsible for the situation, how can one save the Motherland without a single leadership at all?
    3. -8
      8 October 2022 10: 48
      Quote: dmi.pris
      It’s time for the Supreme to think about it after today’s shame, create a Headquarters (with everything attached), and turn to “Brothers and sisters ..”

      what else? turn off the Christmas trees and mourn?
      1. +7
        8 October 2022 10: 50
        And turn off the Christmas trees, yes. Why have a feast during the plague?
        1. -1
          8 October 2022 11: 03
          Quote: dmi.pris
          And turn off the Christmas trees, yes. Why have a feast during the plague?

          no one arranges a feast, everyone lives as they lived and that’s right, as the turtle Tortilla said, “You need to fight - so fight,” and not Noah
      2. -1
        8 October 2022 13: 19
        Quote: poquello
        what else? turn off the Christmas trees and mourn?

        I'm glad you posted this video. There are so many Shvonders on the site here, let them look at themselves.
    4. ZoV
      -7
      8 October 2022 10: 55
      Quote: dmi.pris
      It’s time for the Supreme to think about it after today’s shame, create a Headquarters (with everything attached), and turn to “Brothers and sisters ..”

      It's too early, but everything is moving towards this, if something is not changed in the General Staff and other levels of supply.
      The men went on mobilization and these are not contract soldiers and other recruits .. They understand everything and will not be silent!
      Give them something to fight with and provide for everyone, and they will close the Bandera issue before the end of the year and return home. soldier
      1. +2
        8 October 2022 13: 20
        Quote from ZOV
        Still early ,

        And when will be the best time?
    5. +10
      8 October 2022 10: 58
      ...isn't it time for us to rearrange the beds, huh? Yes, the question is not in rates, but in people .....
      1. ZoV
        -1
        8 October 2022 12: 26
        Quote: Quote Lavrov
        ...isn't it time for us to rearrange the beds, huh? Yes, the question is not in rates, but in people .....

        Yes, there are shots and not bad.
        Russia has always been rich in people with a capital letter, but mediocrities in power do not let them in and spread rot
        This is the main problem of Russian personnel!
        1. +6
          8 October 2022 12: 40
          I just remember Uncle Vasya and try to compare at least someone with him, starting with the districts ... and it doesn’t work ((
          1. ZoV
            -2
            8 October 2022 12: 50
            Quote: Quote Lavrov
            I just remember Uncle Vasya and try to compare at least someone with him, starting with the districts ... and it doesn’t work ((

            Well, there are quite a few followers of Uncle Vasya .. It’s just that they don’t fit into the system yet .. But now, when serious work has begun, they are starting to look for those who remained alive and, despite the offense, Ready to enter service, but with real powers .! So that no one tells them how to fight from politicians, etc.
            1. +7
              8 October 2022 13: 07
              Do you seriously think that the same people, in the same places, will act differently?)))
              1. ZoV
                -9
                8 October 2022 13: 31
                Quote: Quote Lavrov
                Do you seriously think that the same people, in the same places, will act differently?)))

                Russia is now being updated, those who are afraid are fleeing to the Tashkent front, etc.
                But the danger is that they can return while they are fighting for them and take their places, as it was in 1945
                And yell what heroes they are. Everything can happen again.
                1. +5
                  8 October 2022 16: 21
                  Who are you talking about? About Peskov's son or about Ilya Medvedev?
          2. +1
            8 October 2022 12: 55
            Yes, Margelov was a military man, a General with a capital letter. The current ones? They are all not well known, maybe they are worthy.
            1. ZoV
              -6
              8 October 2022 13: 36
              Quote: dmi.pris
              Yes, Margelov was a military man, a General with a capital letter. The current ones? They are all not well known, maybe they are worthy.

              There are, but they are not particularly advertised and they are doing it right
              Let's disperse the general mafia, maybe it will be easier
              I think the Supreme understood all this and will begin to disperse friends and other sycophants.
              Or turmoil will begin in Russia and it will be very terrible
    6. -2
      8 October 2022 11: 01
      and will turn "Brothers and sisters ..."

      Who? This? Oh, twice, and if after dinner - then three. This is not to mention the fact that the rhinoceros is his brother, especially given our achievements in Africa. wink
    7. +5
      8 October 2022 11: 20
      What are you - not all red lines are broken yet laughing
    8. -1
      8 October 2022 11: 58
      if Kom SVO is personally subordinate to the Supreme, is this not Headquarters?
    9. +3
      8 October 2022 12: 28
      dmi.pris
      ...and turn "Brothers and sisters ...."

      "Not according to Senka hat" ...........
    10. ZoV
      -8
      8 October 2022 12: 52
      Quote: dmi.pris
      It’s time for the Supreme to think about it after today’s shame, create a Headquarters (with everything attached), and turn to “Brothers and sisters ..”

      Well, it's a shame, isn't it? This is war
    11. +5
      8 October 2022 19: 20
      Alas, this, as it becomes more and more clear, is not "that" supreme ... Even with the capital letter of the designation of the command status, in relation to "him", the hand does not rise to write ...

      This "supreme" with the people of Russia and "talk" on behalf of the WHOLE STATE and AUTHORITY "no one" ...

      There is, every SEVEN MONTHS, a daily, exclusively departmental level, "bazaar". That is, the "Konashenkovs" broadcast "on behalf of" the Ministry of Defense and the General Staff, the "sands" broadcast "on behalf of" the Kremlin clerks, the "Zakharovs" - "on behalf of" the Foreign Ministry. On behalf of the WHOLE state and authorities, NO ONE informs the people of Russia. There is not even a remote resemblance of the Sovinformburo with the "voice of Levitan". The messages of which were listened to by the entire population of the country (no matter how difficult their content was) and were perceived precisely as GOING on behalf of ALL POWER, including. The heads of state I.V. Stalin ... And they, even the most "pessimistic", were trusted ...

      And now the departmental "choir-bazaar" of all the above parrots is so indistinct, discordant and inconsistently contradictory that it no longer causes anything but growing irritation ..

      Moreover, his OBVIOUS inconsistency, the conceptual inconsistency of "statements", up to the very "terminology" used by his "soloists", OBJECTIVELY CONFIRMS THE COMPLETE LACK OF UNIFIED UNDERSTANDING by departments of the ESSENCE of the main goal and main tasks of the NWO. AND THE COMPLETE LACK OF PRACTICAL AND EFFECTIVE, TIMELY COORDINATION of the actions of departments in the course of the NWO on the part of the leadership of the Russian state. First of all, on the part of Putin, who IS THE MAIN RESPONSIBILITY for the COMPLETE achievement of the goal of the NWO and the COMPLETE solution of its main tasks ...
      objectively
      And Putin, realistically and in a timely manner, does not inform the people of the country. For how long he has only been reading "educational lectures" on the lens in front of the Russians. Yes, in front of the lenses, at solemn ceremonies, "solemnly" "signs" a lot of things ...
  4. +3
    8 October 2022 10: 41
    It is not clear what is happening there, what kind of grouping, what kind of division of spheres of influence
    1. t-4
      +21
      8 October 2022 11: 00
      The personnel policy is not clear at all.
      Why a former infantry platoon commander is appointed to command aviation. Why is now an aviation general being appointed to command the southern land grouping, and now the entire NVO?
      Still, the submarine admiral was put in charge of the front.
      Something, somewhere I do not catch up.
      1. -13
        8 October 2022 11: 51
        Is it weak to get into the tank yourself? Who were in the army?
        1. t-4
          +17
          8 October 2022 12: 03
          Quote: sheridans
          Is it weak to get into the tank yourself? Who were in the army?

          General
      2. +3
        8 October 2022 11: 53
        Yeah ... It's impossible to explain from the point of view of logic why such personnel appointments.
      3. +3
        8 October 2022 12: 20
        Enough of the "why". Everyone knows very well.
      4. +2
        8 October 2022 21: 05
        you also ask a question why Krivoruchko, who did not serve in the army for a day, became a general and deputy minister of defense for armaments. wassat wassat wassat
  5. +4
    8 October 2022 10: 41
    Well, after the events of the morning, Surovkin is now doubly unhappy. I hope they will give the go-ahead from above to act without any restrictions and without regard to the top.
    1. +7
      8 October 2022 10: 47
      I hope they will give the go-ahead from above to act without any restrictions and without looking back at the top.

      This can only be in the case of self-elimination of the top. There's just nowhere for them to run.
      They will decompose on the spot.
    2. Alf
      +3
      8 October 2022 18: 50
      Quote: leks
      I hope they will give the go-ahead from above to act without any restrictions and without looking back at the top.

      Giving the go-ahead is, of course, wonderful. But what about giving a normal connection, UAV, and further down the list?
      1. +4
        8 October 2022 20: 48
        Quote: Alf
        Quote: leks
        I hope they will give the go-ahead from above to act without any restrictions and without looking back at the top.

        Giving the go-ahead is, of course, wonderful. But what about giving a normal connection, UAV, and further down the list?

        Honestly, there's nothing you can do about it. All this encrypted crypto communication, which was so advertised and shown at the exercises, turned out to be just a beautiful picture for TV and parades. With UAVs, they are the same somewhere, but not where you need them. This conflict will be dragged on his shoulders by a peasant infantryman with an AK and a stuff bag (I exaggerate). And this will continue until heads start flying in the military-political leadership, preferably with the highest measure. Then something might move. Now there is progress, but even then only when people begin to show discontent and resent.
        1. Alf
          +2
          8 October 2022 21: 02
          Quote: leks
          until heads start flying in the military-political leadership

          Dear colleague, and WHO will chop off heads? The one who so carefully built the vertical of power?
          1. +1
            8 October 2022 21: 32
            So this is where the problem lies!
            He does not give up his own, he simply shuffles aces from position to position.
            And in general, with age, it became somehow soft; at one time, in the noughties, it was more rigid.
            Vague doubts torment me, but is this the man? Or just become too sentimental in old age?
            1. Alf
              +1
              8 October 2022 21: 46
              Quote: leks
              Vague doubts torment me, but is this the man?

              Wangyu that he is not.
  6. +4
    8 October 2022 10: 42
    So, what about the rear service? There, the management is not going to change -EVERYTHING? And then after all, with such a supply of troops, our military will be left without warm uniforms in winter? And not only is it about equipment, but also about the supply of ammunition, otherwise fighters from the republics complain about "shell hunger" that they are actually deprived of ammunition, they are given crumbs according to the residual principle.
    1. +1
      8 October 2022 11: 50
      Changed last week.
      The text of your comment is too short and in the opinion of the site administration does not carry useful information.
  7. +1
    8 October 2022 10: 42
    Surovkin, only he didn’t command the fleet, although he has experience in Syria? Joke.
  8. +8
    8 October 2022 10: 42
    In the troops, the commander was nicknamed "General Armageddon»

    They didn’t call the enemies, but they called them in the troops laughing laughing laughing
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    2. +12
      8 October 2022 10: 47
      so any general in his troops is Armageddon ....
    3. -2
      8 October 2022 10: 48
      They nicknamed him for the fact that he dismissed the company and battalion commanders indiscriminately, not for poor combat training and training, but for the fact that the barracks are miserable, during the time he was in command, he didn’t do anything good, as it was the bottom and left. Where are the young and sensible that they all hang out with these dinosaurs.
      1. -7
        8 October 2022 10: 54
        It is clear that the personality, the sense of the campaign is ge but (((
      2. -4
        8 October 2022 11: 53
        He did the right thing by kicking out the trash.
      3. -3
        8 October 2022 13: 52
        Quote: White AK
        Where are the young and sensible that they all hang out with these dinosaurs.

        )))))))))))) The higher the mole - the greater the benefit?
    4. -3
      8 October 2022 12: 22
      Apparently the enemies did not have time to name anything. After the "sunshine" everyone is silent.
  9. +2
    8 October 2022 10: 45
    Let's hope this changes something.
  10. +8
    8 October 2022 10: 46
    Recently, in the Internet community of Runet, commenting on the events in Ukraine, there has been a lot of criticism of the high command responsible for conducting the special operation. Reasons for this
    . And if you think about it, figure it out, carefully !!!
    Who do the main military commanders go under, whose commands, decisions, quirks do they carry out ???
    Neither the competence, nor the determination, nor the skill of one person, can fundamentally change anything, when / if, he will execute the decisions of all ... different
  11. +3
    8 October 2022 10: 47
    Wow, these "undercover games" ... They don't need to be played now, especially by the military. But where do you get away from them. The new commander is cool in decisions, he is more of a Zhukovsky type. Maybe that's what we need right now.
    1. 0
      8 October 2022 10: 57
      right now they are doing it so that the Commander of the NMD directly communicates and reports to the Supreme, now absolutely all formations have one commander, as I understand it, the request for the forces and means necessary for the NMD will also go personally to the Supreme, this is a big plus, and a huge responsibility , and it’s very similar to the Supreme Field that he won’t find out the truth from the General Staff, and took everything under personal control, it also makes it clear that there will be purges in the higher echelons of the Moscow Region, because the General Staff has now been thrown out of the SVO in fact
      1. +2
        8 October 2022 11: 03
        Quote: Vitaliy161
        because the General Staff has now been thrown out of the NWO in fact

        and it’s in vain ... It’s impossible to conduct an air defense system without a general staff, one power steering is worth something
        1. 0
          8 October 2022 11: 10
          the commander will have his own headquarters, as I understand it, with everyone he needs
        2. -1
          8 October 2022 11: 28
          one power steering is worth it

          And what is it worth? Or is there only one brand left from him?
        3. +7
          8 October 2022 11: 36
          what is it worth (GUR), I read that they made a private security company out of the GUR for "especially close associates." The GRU training or basing center turned it into a recreational barbecue base for "who needs it" or lies? in Ukraine, they don’t exist, but isn’t this the specialization of power steering?
        4. 0
          8 October 2022 11: 57
          The General Staff will not go anywhere, the necessary control link will simply appear. Roughly speaking, front management.
  12. +1
    8 October 2022 10: 48
    It is good if he has powers and a de-espous headquarters, and not the position of chief persuader.
    1. +1
      8 October 2022 11: 35
      Where will this headquarters be located? If we are far from the front line, we have unsolvable problems with communications, especially when it comes to unified command of units in the east and south of the NVO zone. Close to the front line - the enemy has the technical means to calculate the location of this headquarters and destroy it. We are now inferior to the Ukrainians not only in the number of troops, but also in equipment, organization, and training of troops. In everything.
      1. 0
        8 October 2022 15: 42
        Quote: UAZ 452
        In everything.

        They forgot to mention that we have UAZs, and they have Hamers ...
  13. +4
    8 October 2022 10: 51
    I can only wish you the presence of mind and patience. Hold on.
  14. +2
    8 October 2022 10: 51
    Not even 7 months have passed since the com.SVO appeared.
  15. ASM
    +6
    8 October 2022 10: 52
    Those. Shoigu decided to shift responsibility from a sick head to a healthy one. But we remember everything! Good luck to Surovikin.
    1. -2
      8 October 2022 11: 12
      I hope that Shoigu has nothing to do with it, and this is a personal order of the Supreme, that is, whom the NWO will obey the Supreme
  16. +3
    8 October 2022 10: 54
    God forbid. as they say. Maybe at least he will achieve a positive outcome of this strange operation.
  17. +1
    8 October 2022 10: 57
    On his anniversary, Vladimir Putin personally called General Surovikin and appointed him commander of the NMD.


    Well, now with 100% certainty we can say that there were failures of the NWO, since the reshuffle began, but they still don’t want to admit it.
  18. +4
    8 October 2022 11: 01
    I’m embarrassed to ask, who commanded the NWO .. BEFORE THIS? .. Well, did Surovikin replace someone in this responsible position? commands! .. So what?
    1. +5
      8 October 2022 11: 09
      She walked on her own, it was impossible to appoint a commander, if successful, she could become famous and popular, but no one needs this, in fact, she doesn’t particularly wave to lead directly from Moscow, but this requires a normally working military machine, and we obviously only have life-giving stars something can work.
  19. +10
    8 October 2022 11: 02
    This will not change anything in the course of a strange military operation, since it is by no means the generals who decide whether or not to bomb the most important infrastructure facilities. I am sure that if it were their will, they would first of all do everything "according to the canons" - they would cut off communications in the Outskirts, ditch the clown with his gop company and other general staff, cut the key railway stations, bridges and tunnels to a nut. But for many of those who command the generals, the kids fluttered out from under the wing and moved to overseas / overseas puppeteers, and no one will spoil the life of their child - this is against instinct, and you can’t argue with him. So nothing will change from rearranging the beds in a brothel, this has long been known. Problems at the conservatory...
    1. -1
      9 October 2022 18: 09
      Quote: Al Manah
      This will not change anything in the course of a strange military operation, since it is by no means the generals who decide whether or not to bomb the most important infrastructure facilities.

      Right. I was always amazed why our military leaders are so spineless. If hostilities are underway, they can hit any enemy targets that they consider necessary. And no one already supreme to them in this case can be a decree for them. War is waged by generals, not officials.
  20. +4
    8 October 2022 11: 10
    In the next few months, nothing good is expected, a person will simply steer the situation. And when the situation begins to change, he will be pushed aside and put his man to reap the rewards.
  21. man
    +9
    8 October 2022 11: 11
    General Surovikin appointed to command military special operation
    Good luck, comrade general!
  22. 0
    8 October 2022 11: 16
    It is noted that his units always suffer the least losses on the battlefield.
    Practically the only criterion for the effectiveness of a military leader, provided that it is correctly calculated.
    Clearly not under pressure from the public, but on the basis of military expediency, personnel changes began in the highest echelons of the RF Armed Forces, affecting both logistics and even defense industry enterprises.
    Probably yes. But the public began to put pressure on it, too, not from scratch. By the way, solving problems with the defense industry will be very difficult. This is especially true of microelectronics, which today rules the show. It is not enough to appoint competent people there, who still need to be selected (and who will be selected?), there is also a need for huge investments, which today is almost impossible to solve without the help of the Chinese.
    1. Alf
      +3
      8 October 2022 18: 53
      Quote: Vladimir Postnikov
      huge investments are also required there, which today is almost impossible to solve without the help of the Chinese.

      And the Chinese are not eager to help ...
      1. +3
        8 October 2022 22: 16
        Quote: Alf
        And the Chinese are not eager to help ...

        Difficult question. Another thing is worse: somehow we ourselves don’t really want it all this time. Talk - yes! To cut money on this - also yes! And that's all. To do - "we do not burn with desire." Do you know that sanctions on equipment and materials for the electronics industry have been in effect throughout the post-Soviet period? Over 30 years. And as a result, the concept of "Sixtieth Latitude" was also born. 2005, by the way. The academics loved it. But even academicians were not listened to all this time. And today they do not hear. And the war has already shown that the king is naked. And still nothing. Are the Chinese also to blame? Hmm!
        1. Alf
          +2
          9 October 2022 18: 48
          Quote: Vladimir Postnikov
          Do you know that sanctions on equipment and materials for the electronics industry have been in effect throughout the post-Soviet period? Over 30 years.

          Yes, I know, I know...
          Quote: Vladimir Postnikov
          To do - "we do not burn with desire"

          And with this I fully agree. But China has officially announced that it will curtail cooperation with Russia not only in electronics, but also in other industries. Although they are brave, they are very afraid of losing the market in the United States and falling under US sanctions.
  23. +2
    8 October 2022 11: 19
    In difficult conditions, the front was restored. And ... They put in a general who, for half a year, has not been able to either establish space reconnaissance or destroy enemy air defense
    Personnel leapfrog has already got.
    1. +1
      8 October 2022 11: 33
      Quote: ism_ek
      In difficult conditions, the front was restored. And ... They put in a general who, for half a year, has not been able to either establish space reconnaissance or destroy enemy air defense
      Personnel leapfrog has already got.

      So did they still add to the truth-seeker Kadyrov and Prigogine? So rejoice - that's exactly what they wanted. While they didn’t quite achieve it, of course, they wanted Surovikin at the NGSh. Here are the TG channels of the Wagnerites directly applauding. We will be fair about the failure to establish - there are doubts that the commanders-in-chief of the types and commanders of the military branches have a direct influence on the situation at the front. The same Khodakovsky directly wrote that Surovikin was actually moved away from making key decisions on the NMD.
  24. Elf
    +4
    8 October 2022 11: 23
    Quote: dmi.pris
    It’s time for the Supreme to think about it after today’s shame, create a Headquarters (with everything attached), and turn to “Brothers and sisters ..”


    Early. It is still like "Soviet-Finnish". According to its results, the USSR received sanctions, shameful losses, few territories and Hitler's confidence that the Red Army did not know how to fight.
    So we are waiting for "22/06" and getting ready: we are studying military science and improving physical training.
    You can also find / remember friends, relatives, acquaintances in the CIS countries, where you can send your children.
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    2. +6
      8 October 2022 11: 38
      Run to the taiga. Relatives in the CIS? Not to Kazakhstan?

      You know, I've been to this country. Kazakhs are, of course, they are all different. I got on the plane from there a very educated and intelligent guy of eastern blood, an IT specialist, with good Russian and English.
      But in general, I did not feel safe in Astana. These few days. Show-off Kazakhs and arrogance are noticeable. Although my roof was almost from Nazarbayev himself. Those who carried out orders for his family were invited to eliminate the malfunction.

      And more. I was born in the Volgograd region, and I personally know those whose parents were stolen from the dacha where they worked. Where they were taken no one knows. And their car is gone. But to Kazakhstan there is only 100 km.
      There were people who were brought from there in 10-15 years. They were written about in the newspaper and shown on TV. Exhausted and downtrodden people. And you will not be different there at the local bais.
      1. -3
        8 October 2022 11: 50
        It was not by chance that I left a mark so that someone would not get into this pile ... But I was sure that there would still be someone (like you) who would definitely get into it and raise a howl. War, my dear, here too.
      2. Elf
        +3
        8 October 2022 12: 58
        Yuri, maybe you still do not understand, but the West has a very specific goal: the destruction of Russia as a state. It will not be possible to do this all at once, so they will implement the Iraqi scenario: exhaustion and bringing to a level where it will be possible to bomb with impunity.
        That is, the war with Ukraine has one goal for the West: attrition. Those. the main forces will begin to act later.
        As my coach said: you need to be scared in time. Then there will be time to think and prepare. Those who dumped from the Russian Federation back in February got scared too early. Some, like Urgant, have already returned. But there is another extreme - a huge mass of people who have not been afraid so far and still believe that this will somehow work out.
        No, guys, it won't. Undermining the pipe and the bridge is just the beginning. Terrorist attacks inside the Russian Federation will increase. Starting from small ones, like undermining a heating main in winter, to large ones - at chemical and nuclear industry facilities.
  25. -1
    8 October 2022 11: 30
    And he has a chic cliché. This is what Armageddon should look like. The main thing is that the content matches the appearance.
  26. -1
    8 October 2022 11: 30
    Surovikin was appointed Commander-in-Chief of the Aerospace Forces of Russia

    What relation to the VKS can an officer who graduated from a combined arms school have?
  27. +3
    8 October 2022 11: 32
    From the military t.z. changing the leadership of the NWO to a more sensible one can help, but infrastructural co-operation, continuous bleating about negotiations - this is pure politics.
  28. +3
    8 October 2022 11: 33
    But we have been hearing this name for half a year now. The group had two commanders - Lapin and Surovikin ... and since Lapin was not removed, they were not tried, they would not be demoted - then, apparently, it was just the furniture from the bedroom that was moved into the corridor, and the one that was in the corridor was dragged into the bedroom ...
  29. 0
    8 October 2022 11: 35
    The old guard should be drowned and not fired. After all, these musicians play as best they can. Another thing is that they will start in retaliation.
  30. +3
    8 October 2022 11: 45
    And the fifth column from the Kremlin was taken out for permanent residence? And then even the glass gave a voice.
  31. +3
    8 October 2022 11: 46
    I wonder if this is a promotion or a "struggle" with a potential successor?
  32. -1
    8 October 2022 11: 47
    If this General is not held by the hands, it will not seem like a little dimple.
  33. 0
    8 October 2022 11: 54
    We salute the great General Surovikin, God bless him, we ask him to restore discipline, remove the fifth column and traitors from the theater of operations. Bomb western Ukraine, where Zelensky moved many factories and infrastructure, destroy road communications, tunnels, bridges, railways, etc. In short, do all the logical and essential things that weren't done because betrayal got in the way. And especially if someone puts obstacles in the way of its communication to the Russian people.
  34. 0
    8 October 2022 11: 56
    They can and will be appointed to command - but will they let me fight? It's not a secret here that all decisions are made in the Kremlin. But still: General Surovikin - good luck and victories! It will be hard - but we have no other way!
  35. 0
    8 October 2022 12: 15
    It's kind of strange, first a motorized rifleman, then the command of the Aerospace Forces ... someone, tell me, where is the logic here?
    1. 0
      8 October 2022 12: 58
      If you have a head, then you can understand any business, because the main quality of a boss is the ability to pick up subordinates.
  36. 0
    8 October 2022 12: 15
    Good evening!

    From open sources of information about General S. Surovikin, we can conclude that he knows how REAL OFFICERS should act in cases of failure at the front.
    The logic of general military charters does not allow sharing responsibility. The accustomed "law of the chicken coop" means nothing to the commander and officer.
    I really hope that Sergei Vladimirovich is an honest officer.
    Napoleon is credited with the authorship of one interesting aphorism. "Don't tell me what an outstanding tactician he is. Tell me how lucky he is!?" (more or less like this).
    Good luck, Commander!
  37. -2
    8 October 2022 12: 44
    This is good news in principle, because if after obvious failures there are reshuffles, then all is not lost.
  38. -1
    8 October 2022 12: 54
    Let's see, Surovkin is a big name, if he has independence, the rear will be able to supply, the rear will supplement the field doctors, the guns will be new = basically, you have to believe. The field army is training. I'm just reading how Suvorov handled his situation in Poland. He even received George for the campaign, general, maybe they are waiting for you, you will fight on the European battlefield soldier
  39. +2
    8 October 2022 13: 25
    Obviously not under public pressure,
    Hahaha! The public... Our public either rushed out of the country, or spits on TV with Konashenkov, or swears on the Web.
    Wanted peace and tranquility? Wanted conciliarity and tranquility? Nate, eat, don't get dirty!
    Cause you deserve it
    , your...
  40. +3
    8 October 2022 13: 33
    Quote: 4ekist
    In the troops, the commander was nicknamed "General Armageddon."

    I'm waiting for "Armageddon" for the dill at the front and in their rear.

    A dubious nickname for a commander. If his officers compare him to "Armageddon", then this is most likely not in relation to the enemy.
  41. -1
    8 October 2022 13: 45
    In October 2017, Surovikin was appointed Commander-in-Chief of the Russian Aerospace Forces. He was awarded the Gold Star of the Hero of Russia. In August 2021, he received the military rank of General of the Army. In June 2022, Army General Sergei Surovikin was appointed commander of the Southern Group of Forces in Ukraine.
    Maybe, at least due to Surovikin’s personal connections with the leadership of the Aerospace Forces, constant missile strikes from missile carriers-strategists will begin on Ukronazi communications and concentrations of Ukrainian troops
  42. Two
    0
    8 October 2022 14: 30
    Honestly, it’s a pity for the man, considering in what condition and quantity he gets the troops and territories that the troops should control, with restrictions on the use of weapons (do not touch electrical substations, do not bomb bridges and stations, whether the directive was removed or not, when before arriving at the object they warned the Armed Forces of Ukraine, exit now a rocket will arrive here 20 minutes before arrival, at the beginning of the operation).
  43. -1
    8 October 2022 14: 33
    Wait and see. Finally, there was one owner of the process. Although it may be an illusion. The main thing is to remove the Presidential Administration and the President himself from interfering in hostilities and in the course of the operation. Putin accompanies. It seems that the oligarchy like Aven, Friedman, Potanin has a very serious influence on him. And maybe a cool compromising evidence, which must be. Otherwise, Yeltsin's family would not have put him in charge.
  44. -1
    8 October 2022 15: 02
    That is, he is already in charge of the NWO, expanding his powers. Fine. Let's hope that the disagreements of the generals can be resolved and will bring not harm, but benefit.
  45. 0
    8 October 2022 15: 05
    The horses at the crossing still changed. Will there be a result?
    1. +1
      8 October 2022 17: 12
      En France nous avons une expression:
      "on ne change pas de monture (cheval) au milieu du gué"

      In France we have an expression:
      "we do not change horses (horses) in the middle of the ford"
  46. 0
    8 October 2022 15: 18
    It is interesting how the General Staffs work today.
    After all, I hope modern methods of analysis and decision-making are involved?
    I imagine something like a highly developed AI that processes data and issues recommendations. Plus the advice of highbrow experts.
    By the way, the leadership of the country, the president - what is there?
    Here Lukashenka is understandable. And Putin?
  47. +2
    8 October 2022 16: 27
    Yes, it's all mouse fuss.. All decisions are made in the Kremlin. Does anyone really think that some general, even with combat experience, will radically change something?
  48. 0
    8 October 2022 17: 14
    Come on General, heap on the enemies of Russia, now a lot depends on you!
  49. 0
    8 October 2022 18: 09
    From Wikipedia: “Having understood the actions of Captain Surovikin, Yeltsin bluntly said “... and release Major Surovikin immediately.”
  50. +2
    8 October 2022 18: 34
    For some reason, the anecdote about the beds in the Odessa brothel came to mind.
  51. +2
    8 October 2022 18: 35
    I like his nickname "General Armageddon", it sounds promising. laughing
  52. +1
    8 October 2022 18: 49
    One person cannot change the system.
  53. +1
    8 October 2022 18: 56
    If the commander of the Northern Military District has been appointed, then it is necessary to create a Joint Command of Troops and Forces (JCVS) with the inclusion of the JCVS headquarters and management structures from the armed forces, other troops and bodies,
    participating in the operation.
  54. +2
    8 October 2022 18: 59
    I hope this is our “Ermolov” - Ukraine, for any action against Russia it will lose annihilated territory along with its inhabitants. No regrets.
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  56. 0
    8 October 2022 19: 34
    There is someone responsible for the front. And this is good.
    What about the rear? Material supply, finance? Culture and art, education?
    Is it weak for Sberbank not to share dividends, but to equip the MSD at its own expense? Gazprom? Rosneft? VTB - a brigade, Deripaska and Potanin to build a frigate? It also concerns Abramovich, stop defending your native Portuguese and Gutteres will stand up for it.
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  60. +1
    9 October 2022 01: 10
    After the failure in his sector of the Northern Military District, he was appointed to command the entire Northern Military District?
  61. 0
    9 October 2022 01: 23
    And before that, would there even have been a person who had unified command in his hands? So that Wagner, and the Chechens, and the Leopards, and the DPR and the LPR report to him?
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  64. 0
    9 October 2022 09: 50
    I had to communicate with an Azerbaijani who fought in the first Karabakh war, which Azerbaijan lost. So the main problem was the interaction between departments, do we have the same problem? PMCs, people's militias, Chechen units, MO, BARS.
  65. 0
    9 October 2022 10: 40
    Probably good news. Although endless changes in command are also harmful. The point is not even in our command, but in the fact that we are faced with a Ukrainian, actually professional army, brought up to the NATO level. Yes, they don’t have enough heavy weapons, but Geyropa will help them. And there is more infantry there than we have. And in the attack you need an advantage of at least 3:1. So we will not defeat Ukraine with the forces that are involved in the Northern Military District. And we must understand that we are now fighting not with Ukraine, but with NATO and the United States at the hands of Ukrainians. And their intelligence services know everything about our front and rear... This means they know when, where and with what forces to attack and attack. How to win in such conditions? Sadness....
  66. 0
    9 October 2022 11: 08
    The best thing is the general who destroyed the Aerospace Forces, leaving them without precision bombs, hmm
    1. 0
      9 October 2022 11: 36
      Quote: Sergey Kazarin
      The best thing is the general who destroyed the Aerospace Forces, leaving them without precision bombs, hmm

      The charge is serious. Could you explain in more detail how this happens?
      1. +1
        9 October 2022 11: 47
        What to explain when the VKS are almost useless and fight like during the Second World War with cast iron, which they can even shoot down with MANPADS.
        But there are no modern guided or gliding bombs. There are no strike drones either
        1. 0
          9 October 2022 12: 19
          Quote: Sergey Kazarin
          What to explain when the VKS are almost useless and fight like during the Second World War with cast iron, which they can even shoot down with MANPADS.
          But there are no modern guided or gliding bombs. There are no strike drones either

          And it's all? What does the general have to do with it? Think for yourself, why would some general give up such convenient “gadgets” that cost him nothing? I thought that you had a serious argument, but you just blurted out God knows what.
          1. 0
            9 October 2022 20: 29
            Despite the fact that Kab-2015 guided bombs were tested back in 500 in Syria, but due to the fact that cast iron was cheaper they were not purchased
            1. 0
              9 October 2022 22: 15
              Quote: Sergey Kazarin
              Despite the fact that Kab-2015 guided bombs were tested back in 500 in Syria, but due to the fact that cast iron was cheaper they were not purchased

              The KAB-500 is a bomb adopted by the USSR Armed Forces approximately fifty years ago. You call cast iron FAB-500, as I guess, which in Syria were used with the SVP-24 Hephaestus targeting system. Various opponents. Different theaters of war. What is the connection with General Surovikin? Do not confuse your finger with another part of the body.
              1. 0
                14 October 2022 01: 56
                Kab-500S with GLONASS............
          2. 0
            10 October 2022 02: 09
            And who then has “what to do with it”?
            Whoever commands is responsible.
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  68. 0
    9 October 2022 15: 05
    They fought well in the south, took vast territories and large cities. There were also successes in the east, but overall it was difficult, and in the north they failed. The soldiers and officers are handsome everywhere, so the northern failures are purely those of the generals. Those who screwed up Kharkov, for example. to be kicked out of the army. The Supreme Commander gave out stars, but not everyone deserved them.
    Surovikin wins, it’s time to show the power of Russian weapons.
  69. -3
    9 October 2022 15: 06
    No one was destroyed in the Mountain Cauldron, why lie? They came out.
  70. 0
    9 October 2022 16: 26
    I read the comments and I’m not even surprised... I’m just once again convinced that those who are dissatisfied will find a reason to whine in any case. Those who are dissatisfied in life will always whine that everything is bad.
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  72. -1
    9 October 2022 20: 15
    Quote: barbiturate
    They are all from the same system, stern faces, strong-willed views,......... we need thinking and smart people who have been interested in tactics and strategy all their lives, people who are passionate about military sciences, but the system does not move such people forward

    Did you come up with the word “system” and believe that it explains something?

    The fact that an authoritatively stern, scary snout is not a requirement of the “system” - it is, so to speak, a visual representation of society about an authoritative person. Our word "authority" means a bandit. But not a scientist. That's the point.

    A. Fadeev wrote about this in his stories about the Civil War. The Russian peasants then had authority over the mighty bull-shaped warriors. Capable of cutting a person in half with one blow. They worshiped them like gods.

    And those who actually ensured victories with their organizational talent remained invisible. That’s why in 1991 just such a gangster snout came to power and became for a time the Russian people’s favorite.

    If it weren’t for problems with alcoholism and health, Yeltsin would still rule Russia and the people would elect him.
    But Yeltsin installed a receiver. And the receiver rules.

    This is also a characteristic type of “hero”, popular among the people. Especially if he wears a black naval overcoat with a white scarf. For a Russian man, PR is crucial!
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      10 October 2022 02: 06
      Well, firstly, he didn’t give in, but while carrying out the combat mission he minimized the losses of the violent population, and secondly, if the State Emergency Committee had taken place then the enemies of the people would have been identified and neutralized in a timely manner with all the consequences.
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    10 October 2022 02: 03
    Based on the actions taken by the enemy on the outskirts, one begins to get the impression that artificial intelligence is engaged in planning and managing operations of this very enemy; a person will not be able to effectively manage synchronizing various processes in space and time with finely fragmented forces and means, achieving results in the general outline of the battle, if we have There is no way to control AI troops, then there is no need to split up units, we need to use the combat technologies that we own.
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    10 October 2022 02: 52
    you can appoint any general you like, but if he doesn’t have any assigned forces and means besides his position, then he will be able to do little... and our main problem is precisely the acute shortage of forces and means... especially personnel...