US press citing congressman: Washington will not provide Ukraine with missiles with a range of 300 km

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US press citing congressman: Washington will not provide Ukraine with missiles with a range of 300 km

The epic continues with Kyiv's requests to the United States for the supply of missiles with a range of up to 300 km. Recently, such a request was made by the Ukrainian ambassador in Washington, saying that if such missiles are provided, Kyiv will certainly designate for the United States all the targets that they are going to hit. In particular, it was announced intentions to hit targets, including on the territory of Crimea.

The American edition of The Wall Street Journal publishes an article in which, citing a member of the US Congress, it writes that the United States authorities again refused to supply Kyiv with missiles with the range indicated above.



From the material:

The United States will not provide Kyiv with long-range missiles, 300 km. Congress believes that strikes on Crimea could lead to an additional escalation. This is the main reason.

Earlier, one of the representatives of the US administration, in an interview with American journalists, stated that "the Ukrainian army already has missiles with which they can reach almost any place of armed conflict, including the territory of Crimea."

Recall that the other day, entrepreneur and inventor Elon Musk proposed his plan for resolving the conflict in Ukraine. At the heart of his plan is the recognition of Crimea as Russian territory and the neutral status of Ukraine. Musk also announced "a possible holding of repeated referendums in the Kherson region, in Zaporozhye and in the Donbass - under the auspices of the UN." Perhaps Musk is solving domestic political problems and some of his proposals look strange, but one cannot deny the fact that for tens of millions of Americans this person is much more authoritative than any representative of the US administration, including President Biden. In particular, it was thanks to Musk that millions of Americans learned that there have always been pro-Russian regions in Ukraine.
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  1. +2
    7 October 2022 09: 42
    They won’t provide it, then they will provide it, now they won’t provide it again ...
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      1. 0
        7 October 2022 09: 55
        Quote: mann
        Not provided now, provided later!

        Apparently, this expression can be expanded.
        "Give it now, don't give it later!" Seriously, there are such graters about this that it feels like in the USA they themselves do not know anything about this: whether they will provide something or not.
        1. 0
          7 October 2022 10: 14
          Quote: Plate
          Not provided now, provided later!

          So maybe they have already, "accidentally" installed them, and now they are relieving themselves of responsibility?
          1. 0
            8 October 2022 19: 15
            So maybe they have already, "accidentally" installed them, and now they are relieving themselves of responsibility?

            "The Crimean bridge, which links the temporarily occupied peninsula with Russia, will be destroyed or disabled as soon as Ukraine receives the weapons necessary for this - ATACMS long-range missiles for HIMARS multiple launch rocket systems (MLRS) with a range of hitting targets at a distance of up to 300 kilometers.
            Such a forecast was voiced by military expert Oleg Zhdanov in an interview with Obozrevatel.
        2. -3
          7 October 2022 10: 58
          Quote: Plate
          Quote: mann
          Not provided now, provided later!

          Apparently, this expression can be expanded.
          "Give it now, don't give it later!" Seriously, there are such graters about this that it feels like in the USA they themselves do not know anything about this: whether they will provide something or not.
          Here, as in the saying - "The eye sees, but the tooth is numb" or "I want and prick." Mattresses would very much like to expand the scale of the conflict, but at the same time, the remnants of common sense keep them from these deliveries, since the consequences, in terms of the answer from the Kremlin, are not obvious.
          But this cannot go on indefinitely, and if there is no serious distribution of infrastructure and decision-making centers on our part in the foreseeable future, then we will wait until the mattresses lift restrictions on the supply of long-range missiles.
          1. Elf
            0
            8 October 2022 13: 18
            The answer can only be the de-orbiting of the Keyhole satellites or massive fires at oil rigs in the Gulf of Mexico. Only this can sober up those who make decisions in decision-making centers.
            Question: is there enough spirit for this?
    2. 0
      7 October 2022 10: 21
      Quote: Plate
      They won’t provide it, then they will provide it, now they won’t provide it again ...

      In this regard, I "like" domestic political scientists and "specialists" who, like a lollipop, suck on another American bait about what the United States has already put in Ukraine and what it will never put there.

      Another Anglo-Saxon stuffing has nothing to do with what actually exists, but in fact we see that the Armed Forces of Ukraine have no "hunger" in ammunition and various weapons, except for nuclear weapons (so far).
      Therefore, we need to prepare for the worst scenario, and not rely on the Anglo-Saxon disinformation and their "difficult" financial condition.
      1. TIR
        0
        7 October 2022 11: 04
        You're right. Due to the lack of determination and competence of our side, the Armed Forces of Ukraine have quietly established supply chains for weapons and ammunition. Today, the Armed Forces of Ukraine do not experience shortages in ammunition, equipment and people. At the same time, the influx of mercenaries is well established. Another month of such inaction on our part, and we will already need ammunition and equipment. And now there really is no point in supplying these missiles. The Armed Forces of Ukraine are completely coping without this trump card. Why beat with trump cards when there are still ordinary cards
    3. TIR
      +1
      7 October 2022 10: 51
      They give help on a regular basis. How many weapons are needed to repel our attacks and for the offensive, so much will be supplied. They do not need the victory of Russia and Ukraine. For them, the best outcome is both losing sides. We cannot force Ukraine to stop and talk sensibly. But our leadership does not want to win, because all Russian top officials and oligarchs will stupidly lose absolutely everything! By taking yachts and property, the West showed the place to our oligarchs. And they understood. Now this force is working against Russia. Since they were hinted that they would take away all their assets. But these bloodsuckers keep everything in the west. Therefore, there are no decisive actions in Ukraine. Stupidly, this internal anti-Russian force stops any strong moves of Russia. If I'm wrong and we have pro-Russian oligarchs, then where are they? What help did even ONE oligarch provide to the front??? I think you don’t need to be an analyst and speak in the Solovyov region in order to understand this truth - the Russian elite from the highest ranks of the government, the Armed Forces and industry are working with all their might to the West against Russia.
      I would like to smuggle the line. Summarize the entire story. But I'm afraid to exaggerate. Everything is so clear. How many opportunities the elite and the citizens have. The forces here are not in our favor. We are just completely repeating the scenario of Russian society at the beginning of WW1. Fully! And how to go mobilized for war knowing the whole alignment ??? What will be the mood?
      1. TIR
        0
        7 October 2022 10: 57
        PS I would advise Ramzan Akhmatovich to strengthen security and not to travel outside Chechnya. He is at the throat of the internal anti-Russian forces. They spend a lot of energy on neutralizing his statements and moves. His time will come. The situation will ripen for this, and over the years he will only be wiser. The blood will no longer play so strongly and will act more according to the mind, and not at the behest of the heart. This is one of the trump cards of the Russian people
        1. 0
          7 October 2022 11: 50
          Something I did not notice any attempts to neutralize his moves and statements. What is there to neutralize in particular?
      2. 0
        7 October 2022 11: 08
        Quote: TIR
        But our leadership does not want to win, because all Russian top officials and oligarchs will stupidly lose absolutely everything!

        So after all, if they defeat Ukraine, then they will be able to set conditions for the West itself in the style: "Get out of the Baltic states and Poland, otherwise we’ll give you soup there." It is unlikely, of course, that they are really pushing and it is unlikely that the West will simply take it and dump it, but there will be grounds for such threats. Moreover, I think that after this, at least half of the world will ask under the umbrella of these same oligarchs, asking them, sort of, for release from their Western colleagues, but in fact for their change. This is the struggle of the already established empire - the States - and the rising - Russia. The established one has semi-colonies, markets, plundered countries, and so on. The rising one now has a chance to push the established one in this field. I do not believe that the Russian oligarchs do not want to get in addition to Russia all sorts of Algeria, Venezuela, Colombia, Libya, Iraq ... all those who could potentially ask for help in the fight against American influence.
        Agree, it is very strange to blame the oligarchs that they only want money, and at the same time that they do not want to fight for them. In my opinion, everything should be more complicated here. The only simple explanation that I see is that they believe that no matter how much they pour into Russia, it will not be able to win in the struggle for semi-colonies by any means, so you can try to bargain for yourself at least some personal bonus (for example, saving lives) by handing it over.
        That's serious. Imagine that you are some kind of oligarch, you have a billion dollars in the West. But then they call you from the Kremlin and promise that instead of this you will have 3 billion at the expense of oil rigs in Algeria, conditionally, if you now go along with your comrades and support the army with everything it needs. Good deal. You will not agree to this, in my opinion, only in two ways: either you expect, for some reason, that the Kremlin will throw you after the victory and simply arrest you for your past sins, or you think that no matter how you support it, it will lose .

        PS I'll quote again.
        Quote: TIR
        But our leadership does not want to win, because all Russian top officials and oligarchs will stupidly lose absolutely everything!

        In case of victory, in my opinion, Russian top officials and oligarchs will acquire, in comparison with what they have, absolutely everything.
        1. TIR
          -1
          7 October 2022 11: 20
          You're trying to insert chimpanzee brains into some snail. Do you really think that our oligarchy has ascended to the peak thanks to its brains? I think they have completely different human qualities and shortcomings in the first place. The mind is not even in the top three. They can’t see beyond their noses, and you decided to attribute a global strategy to them. They are nobody without money, and this money is all in the west. And there they were clearly and openly told what would happen to them if they were not tame dogs.
          1. 0
            7 October 2022 11: 37
            Quote: TIR
            Do you really think that our oligarchy has ascended to the peak thanks to its brains?

            Well, I don't have much brains, but I'm not an oligarch. And the shortcomings are just in bulk. It is logical to assume that someone who is richer than you, therefore, is smarter, more resourceful, more charismatic, and so on.
            Quote: TIR
            They can’t see beyond their noses, and you decided to attribute a global strategy to them.

            Even I with my brains found something to ascribe. They have more brains there. Otherwise, I would be at the top, not them :)
            1. TIR
              0
              7 October 2022 12: 15
              We only had one with brains. Lev Durov, but he was devoured by the brainless. In our country, since the 90s, capitalism has not been born along an evolutionary path, as in the West, but on the basis of plundering both the country and people. And who was more greedy and up to the elbow in the blood of competitors, he was higher. Then, from this mass, those who are a little smarter came forward. But if a smart and strong woman survived in a barrel with rats, then she does not cease to be a rat. So here too. In our country, capital accumulated over 2-10 years, while in the West it took evolutionary decades or a couple of hundred years. It is the intellect that our oligarchs do not have. They only have vices at first
    4. 0
      7 October 2022 12: 16
      They overturned the chubanuts.
  2. +2
    7 October 2022 09: 43
    Why? The red lines have long been crossed, you can move on!
    1. 0
      7 October 2022 09: 55
      Quote: Fyodor Sokolov
      The red lines have long been crossed

      Further lines are only black, and for all mankind. Although moral freaks and drug addicts like Zelensky, this will not stop.
      1. +1
        7 October 2022 10: 09
        And the West does not intend to stop the campaign either, during the so-called "Cold War" at least there were some agreements, compromises, but now it seems that everything is left to chance.
  3. +1
    7 October 2022 09: 44
    So it has been set for a long time, it’s just that there was no command to apply yet
  4. -3
    7 October 2022 09: 44
    So they are already there. What attacked the airfields in the Crimea is still unknown.
  5. 0
    7 October 2022 09: 44
    And who will tell journalists what the United States supplies to Ukraine, what was delivered to the US Embassy in Kyiv by transport with diplomatic immunity.
  6. 0
    7 October 2022 09: 44
    How many times has it already been that the United States and its suckers "will not receive ...", but in the end, the issue will soon be resolved positively. Therefore, it is impossible to relax and hope for this "refusal".
  7. +1
    7 October 2022 09: 57
    Being on the alert is better than believing people who lie all the time and violate all their words and agreements.
    The enemy does not allow Russia to relax.
  8. +1
    7 October 2022 09: 59
    Ok, I see!
    Washington's policy is carried out not for the victory of Ukraine, but for the as much as possible exhausting the belligerents!
    After all, if they put more long-range ATACMS missiles (for example), then the "degree" will rise and Russia will use More drastic retaliatory measures.
    It is beneficial for America to keep the conflict within the framework of the "NWO" - this allows you to drag out the conflict in order to attract moreОmore funds for their defense industry and, most importantly, for more damage to the warring parties!
    Militarists in general!

    “Modern militarism is the result of capitalism. In both of its forms, it is the "vital manifestation" of capitalism: as a military force used by the capitalist states in their external conflicts, and as a weapon used in the hands of the ruling classes to suppress all kinds of (economic and political) movements of the proletariat.
    V.I. Lenin, PSS, t.17
  9. -3
    7 October 2022 10: 00
    They didn't seem to expect it to turn out this way. In total, a couple of dozen himars plus a couple of hundred 155 trunks plus a mob reserve of dill plus an instructor and intelligence data. And we have what we have at the front. What they need is a smoldering, long-term conflict that grinds resources, and not a big bright flash. They don’t even need the Korean scenario yet, when we shot down NATO pilots, and they shot us down. At the same time, note that no inter-bloc military conflict occurred
    1. +1
      7 October 2022 10: 23
      Quote: Foundling
      They need a smoldering, long-playing conflict,

      That's it !
      By the way .. by the way .. to at least understand a little, that buzz .. that the USA now has .., Estimate that the USA bloody they are at war with England, but we have peace and Grace (as in the USSR), and we will either plant weapons in England .. or not.
  10. 0
    7 October 2022 10: 04
    Congress believes strikes on Crimea could lead to additional escalation
    Isn't this what the United States was striving for by provoking a conflict in Ukraine - a protracted, exhausting Russia and its economy? And suddenly they became such peacemakers? I do not believe.
    1. 0
      7 October 2022 10: 43
      they have already 100% brought these long-range missiles to Ukraine, but .... each missile costs 2,5 million dollars and there are practically no goals for them, the game is not worth the candle, it is financially unprofitable to launch these missiles over a bridge, politically risky , and if any of the missiles does not explode, then it is generally dangerous, a technology leak is a moment.
  11. 0
    7 October 2022 10: 13
    Of course it will. There is no doubt about this. Only the Americans themselves will manage them, and they will be used as a "punishment from heaven" for the successes of the Russian army on the fronts.
    This is my opinion, recalling previous events.
  12. -3
    7 October 2022 10: 18
    Yes, yes, we know) Some do not supply anything, others ran out of strength a month ago and they barely held the front. Although our MO may be believed, they are very gullible)
  13. -3
    7 October 2022 10: 37
    The bad thing is that now everyone knows about the state of affairs in our army for inexpensive mattresses. But the worst thing is that this knowledge was received for free by China and, for example, Azerbaijan and so on. And this problem. Even ebn nervously smokes on the sidelines
  14. -1
    7 October 2022 10: 44
    Just like a camomile.
    Provide. It won't die for the USA.
  15. 0
    7 October 2022 10: 48
    Quote: Foundling
    The bad thing is that now everyone knows about the state of affairs in our army for inexpensive mattresses. But the worst thing is that this knowledge was received for free by China and, for example, Azerbaijan and so on. And this problem. Even ebn nervously smokes on the sidelines

    The worst thing is that we don’t have a lot of things, a lot of things left. The change is not expected in the near future (change of generals does not count).
  16. +8
    7 October 2022 11: 48
    US press citing congressman: Washington will not provide Ukraine with missiles with a range of 300 km

    So it has already been provided.
  17. 0
    7 October 2022 12: 05
    Officially, it may not deliver. And behind his back he drags anything to Ukraine. As they say in the United States, purely business and nothing personal.