Speaker of the Federation Council Matvienko said that the NWO would be terminated only on Russian terms, and offered Ukraine negotiations

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Speaker of the Federation Council Matvienko said that the NWO would be terminated only on Russian terms, and offered Ukraine negotiations

According to the speaker of the upper house of the Russian parliament, Valentina Matviyenko, Moscow is ready to stop hostilities in Ukraine, but only on its own terms.

Matvienko noted that the Russian side is ready to negotiate with Kyiv. However, it is not possible that the former Ukrainian regions, which have recently become part of Russia, were the subject of these negotiations. At the negotiations, it is possible to discuss the cessation of further hostilities.



True, one nuance remains not entirely clear here - as officials said, the new subjects became part of Russia within the borders of the former Ukrainian regions, part of whose territory is under the control of the Armed Forces of Ukraine. It is still unclear how the issue of these territories will be resolved.

Valentina Matvienko also noted that Russia has repeatedly called on Kyiv to start negotiations. The Speaker of the Federation Council joined these calls. She directly addressed the delegation of the Verkhovna Rada of Ukraine at the summit of speakers of the parliaments of the G20 countries.

But Kyiv is unlikely to want to sit down at the negotiating table while the Ukrainian military is conducting offensive operations, including in territories already annexed to Russia.

According to EU foreign policy representative Josep Borrell, the European Union will strengthen support for Ukraine and, at the same time, will look for diplomatic ways to resolve the conflict in parallel.

In September, the press secretary of the President of the Russian Federation Dmitry Peskov said that he did not see the prerequisites for resuming negotiations with Kyiv.
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  1. +51
    6 October 2022 16: 15
    Do I understand correctly that when they got involved in the NWO, this was not calculated?
    That the war could end like this, another Khasavyurt.
    They didn’t fulfill Minsk 1,2 for you, but Matvienko offers them other agreements. Probably she is naive, they hope that they will fulfill
    1. +40
      6 October 2022 16: 22
      Until Sergei Vladimirovich Matvienko helps at the front, Ukraine will resist in the ranks of the mobilized reserves.
      1. +20
        6 October 2022 16: 35
        Dmitry Peskov said that he did not see the prerequisites for resuming negotiations with Kyiv.
        Who is in the forest, who is for firewood ... some kind of complete discord at the top.
        1. +10
          6 October 2022 16: 38
          He does not see the prerequisites, but he also does not mind, like Putin, by the way.
        2. -1
          6 October 2022 16: 59
          Offering and seeing them are two different things.
        3. +21
          6 October 2022 17: 04
          Because none of these (....) feel responsible even for their boneless tongue. He is not responsible for anything and knows that he is a godfather if he does something.
          1. +2
            6 October 2022 18: 11
            He is not responsible for anything and knows that he is a godfather if he does something.

            And the godfather does not care along the way, let them talk what they want. Chatting is not a thing to do.
        4. +8
          6 October 2022 17: 39
          Quote: marchcat
          Dmitry Peskov said that he did not see the prerequisites for resuming negotiations with Kyiv.
          Who is in the forest, who is for firewood ... some kind of complete discord at the top.

          They are all connected in one way or another with business interests in Ukraine, I think this creation too. So they spin around as best they can.
        5. 0
          7 October 2022 10: 11
          Not at all, I think this is a clear, direct position - to negotiate, so this idea is voiced from time to time by politicians of various levels and qualities.
      2. +25
        6 October 2022 16: 44
        along the way they live in some other reality
        1. +20
          6 October 2022 17: 13
          It seems like ...
          While Ms. Matvienko was gathering her thoughts, the Armed Forces of Ukraine managed to chop off 3 more settlements in the Kherson region. Svatovo is already breathing heavily.
          The most opportune time for negotiations on Russian terms. It remains only to persuade Zelensky.
      3. +8
        6 October 2022 17: 10
        I remember him back in the early 2000s .... how he beautifully "threw" Khanty-Mansiysk on the construction of an entire microdistrict .... no money, no microdistrict, so no one saw ... others completed the construction for new money ....
    2. -18
      6 October 2022 16: 40
      They didn’t fulfill Minsk 1,2 for you, but Matvienko offers them other agreements
      And he does it not behind the scenes, but
      Valentina Matvienko also noted that Russia has repeatedly called on Kyiv to start negotiations. The Speaker of the Federation Council joined these calls. She directly addressed the delegation of the Verkhovna Rada of Ukraine at the summit of speakers of parliaments of the G20 countries.

      And this is a very bad sign for Ukraine.
      For after such words (which will be rejected) follows something and ends with the words, well, we offered ( at the summit of speakers of parliaments of the G20 countries), they didn't want to.
      1. +2
        6 October 2022 16: 54
        Quote: flicker
        they didn't want to.

        Perhaps they will want to later, but they were limited in such maneuvers at the legislative level. No one will escape from the Titanic now.
    3. +12
      6 October 2022 16: 42
      They hope that now they will be given a conditional "Minsk", but the "partners" of the world are now absolutely not profitable. Unlike the Kremlin, they will finish off the enemy, they do not need agreements.
      1. -1
        6 October 2022 20: 21
        Unlike the Kremlin, they will finish off the enemy, they do not need agreements.
        And we will finish off the enemy.

        We carried out SVO (special military operation).
        The United States, by the way, did not fight in Iraq, or in Yugoslavia, or in Afghanistan, but carried out military operations.
        ---
        The thing is that the UN Security Council can give the green light to military action (if no one vetoes it).
        The veto was most often imposed either by us or by the United States.
        So the United States circumvented this veto with the help of "Humanitarian Intervention". They say that Hussein is pressing the Kurds or Milosevic of the Croats and the United States is launching a military operation (Not a war, but an operation) in order to stop discrimination against the Kurds, Croats.
        Those. a military operation (which has a number of limitations compared to a war) is way to bypass UNSC veto.
        ---
        We started the SVO in order to protect the DPR and LPR, as well as to force Ukraine to abandon the Bandera ideology, which implies its disarmament (denazification and demilitarization).
        ---
        After the LPR, DPR, parts of the Zaporozhye and Kherson regions became part of Russia, any shelling of them is ALREADY an attack on Russia, and this is ALREADY the basis for declaring war on Ukraine. This means that we have the right to carry out the transition from NWO to War and begin the destruction of enemy infrastructure, as well as some objects of the countries of the enemy's accomplices.
        ---
        So now, at any moment convenient for us, we can move from NWO to War.
      2. -4
        6 October 2022 20: 31
        Quote: Raccoon
        They hope that now they will be given a conditional "Minsk", but the "partners" of the world are now absolutely not profitable. Unlike the Kremlin, they will finish off the enemy, they do not need agreements.

        It is useful to outline your policy for peace at the summit in Indonesia before the summit itself. We are for peace, but on our own terms. Is it clear now ? Or you . against peace on Russia's terms? And who will finish off the enemy, who will be the defeated enemy, time will tell ... I'm sure not Russia.
    4. +17
      6 October 2022 16: 42
      They didn’t fulfill Minsk 1,2 for you, but Matvienko offers them other agreements.

      It was necessary to add the words "please" and "for Christ's sake" to the sentence. It won't help, but you have to try.
    5. +6
      6 October 2022 16: 59
      they (the states) go to Va_Bank! .... Zelya doesn’t count, it was already clear before the CBO for a long time ..... we are just "a little afraid" to answer for real !!!.... that's our trouble
    6. +21
      6 October 2022 17: 11
      So far, our government resembles a Jewish pirate ship with a black flag on the mast and a white one a little lower, just in case.
    7. +1
      6 October 2022 17: 19
      so she says that agreements are on our terms, no kickbacks on the territory until February 24.02, etc., even if politicians want to lose this war, the people will not allow it to be done, no one needs another revolution
    8. AAK
      +11
      6 October 2022 17: 20
      Official cowardly rats again began another song about the "great negotiation process", in fact, every toad in the swamp croaks in its own way ...
    9. +2
      6 October 2022 20: 14
      They didn’t fulfill Minsk 1,2 for you, but Matvienko offers them other agreements. Probably she is naive, they hope that they will fulfill


      Matvienko is not naive, she is stupid.
      1. 0
        7 October 2022 08: 57
        But faithful. Since the beginning of the 90s, he has been walking under the GDP. Like 80% of all top...
        1. +1
          7 October 2022 11: 38
          And in your opinion, who should the president recruit for his team? Faithful or those who will sabotage all his decisions? Why is it that the new leader in any country himself and re-forms his team from his people?

          Because it can't be otherwise!

          It’s just that Matvienko climbs into places where she is not asked at all and what she doesn’t understand a damn thing about.
      2. -1
        7 October 2022 13: 14
        She's not that stupid. Was. And now she is already in years - 73 years already. Is it in vain that the retirement age even after the increase is 65 years, and for women even 60? Here we are reaping the fruits of the relapse of gerontocracy.
    10. -3
      6 October 2022 20: 37
      Are you sure you read the news? Negotiations were offered on Russia's terms.
    11. +1
      6 October 2022 21: 01
      judging by the frequency of proposals for negotiations pouring in from all ranks, we need these negotiations more than Ukraine .....
    12. +1
      7 October 2022 00: 39
      Quote: EXPrompt
      Speaker SF Matvienko

      Quote: EXPrompt
      Do I understand correctly that when they got involved in the NWO, this was not calculated?
      That the war could end like this, another Khasavyurt.
      They didn’t fulfill Minsk 1,2 for you, but Matvienko offers them other agreements. Probably she is naive, they hope that they will fulfill

      I remember that on February 25-26, the speaker of the Federation Council, Matvienko, coquettishly did not rule out that the SVO would end by March 8. There was no talk of EMNIP negotiations at all.
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  2. +17
    6 October 2022 16: 16
    Mr. Peskov does not see, but Mrs. Matvienko sees .. Where should the poor peasant go ..?
    1. +4
      6 October 2022 16: 17
      Mr. Peskov does not see, but Mrs. Matvienko sees ..
      Already Peskov and Matvienko and even Putin, everyone sees.
      1. +11
        6 October 2022 16: 21
        There is just no result. The whole country sees half a year.
        1. -23
          6 October 2022 16: 30
          There is just no result.
          You are not satisfied with the increase in area?
          1. +24
            6 October 2022 16: 34
            I am not satisfied with the six-month delay in mobilization.
            Had it been done in April, it would have been over by now. And the increase would be many times greater.
            But Strelkov immediately spoke about it.
            1. +1
              6 October 2022 19: 50
              Kvachkov wrote about this in a letter to all the leaders of the state! Only it is unlikely that they found out about him. All information is filtered so that the central authorities do not find out about this letter and the proposal in this letter. Write about the social program! We will do without advice. Everyone on the Internet criticized this letter in a harsh manner, defending the actions of our darkest, fair-faced one.
              I wonder what they think now when they announced mobilization? This is what constant servility, servility, servility to GDP leads to they cannot go to the Christmas tree, lawns, exhibitions, holidays, but only to buy high-quality uniforms for the mobilized.
          2. +6
            6 October 2022 17: 46
            Quote: Trapp1st
            You are not satisfied with the increase in area?

            There are still questions about this increase, given the impossibility of its full control.
            1. 0
              6 October 2022 18: 23
              There are still questions about this increase, given the impossibility of its full control.
              It was sarcasm ...
        2. -36
          6 October 2022 16: 38
          The camp has grown by millions of population and millions of tugriks in GDP. Open your eyes. Well, spit on the owners.
          1. +6
            6 October 2022 16: 43
            I'm not going to spit on the President. If you want - spit yourself.
          2. +11
            6 October 2022 16: 49
            But she is losing these increments at a rapid pace.
  3. +8
    6 October 2022 16: 17
    "In a good hour to say, in a bad hour to remain silent," they used to say something like this in Russia ...., but where is it .... - educated people ......
    1. -1
      6 October 2022 19: 00
      Quote from uprun
      "In a good hour to say, in a bad hour to remain silent", something like this in Russia they used to say

      The people were dark, uneducated.
      Where are they up to noneshney intelligentsia.
  4. +24
    6 October 2022 16: 17
    The stoned ones are eager to fight, and they are offered to talk ... I would not be dishonored.
    1. +8
      6 October 2022 16: 22
      Matvienko from Lvov. It is for Banderlog own. Like on a mission.
      1. +7
        6 October 2022 16: 33
        and she told me sho from Shepetovka, so believe people after that)))
        1. +7
          6 October 2022 16: 35
          Apparently she has multiple passports. I'm saying it's a scam.
      2. +6
        6 October 2022 16: 45
        . April 7, 1949, Shepetovka, Khmelnitsky region, Ukrainian SSR, USSR Two older sisters Lydia and Zinaida [4]. She spent her childhood in Cherkassy.
        and how many more people in the government associated with Ukraine?
        1. +5
          6 October 2022 17: 00
          Yes, not Lviv. But still there. Western mentality.
          1. +2
            6 October 2022 18: 34
            Quote: Pereira
            Yes, not Lviv. But still there. Western mentality.

            So natural... Shepetivka is 200 km from Lviv.
            But, to be honest, with all my negative attitude towards this woman (like any Leningrader) - it doesn’t matter, even if you crack, right now I don’t feel zrada in her!
            And the proposals for negotiations are nothing more than a game for the world community. Like, Russia wants to speak, but Ukraine categorically ignores...that is exactly what will happen according to the protocol, if there is a need to raise the chronology of events.
            1. 0
              7 October 2022 06: 20
              Very well said. Don't add or subtract!
            2. -1
              7 October 2022 13: 20
              But, to be honest, with all my negative attitude towards this woman (like any Leningrader)

              To be fair, Leningraders/Petersburgers have never been satisfied with anyone from the local authorities. Unless during the next change of the mayor, the previous one could be awarded something like "and the new one is even worse than the old one."
          2. 0
            6 October 2022 18: 38
            Yes, not Lviv. But still there. Western mentality.
            Interestingly, Matvienko accidentally does not have any relatives among the released dungeon workers. Is that not enough? That would explain a lot.
          3. -1
            6 October 2022 20: 03
            Academy of Social Sciences under the Central Committee of the CPSU This is the school!
        2. +6
          6 October 2022 17: 06
          And how many ardent Russophobes are in Banderlogia .. Born in all the expanses of the RSFSR, with Russian surnames
          1. +1
            6 October 2022 18: 36
            Quote: dmi.pris
            And how many ardent Russophobes are in Banderlogia .. Born in all the expanses of the RSFSR, with Russian surnames

            Yeah, I have always been pleased with a character named Gennady Moskal. I think - that's how you, stsyko, with such a surname live in this anti-Russian territory ???
            1. +1
              6 October 2022 18: 56
              And I’m strained by types like Pasha Klimkin, a native of Kursk, the education of the Moscow Institute of Physics and Technology. And there are tens of thousands of them
          2. -1
            7 October 2022 13: 29
            And how many ardent Russophobes are in Banderlogia .. Born in all the expanses of the RSFSR, with Russian surnames

            If the owners of Russian surnames in Ukraine are the first Russophobes, and the owners of Ukrainian ones in Russia are Ukrainophiles, then something is not right in our state. What kind of Russian world can we talk about in such a situation? Even then it is not clear: who demilitarizes and denazifies whom?
        3. 0
          6 October 2022 20: 38
          Less than in Ukraine associated with Russia.
  5. +10
    6 October 2022 16: 18
    Speaker of the Federation Council Matvienko said that the NWO would be terminated only on Russian terms, and offered Ukraine negotiations
    . Shaw se vono take???
    Which of the towers of the Kremlin showed itself, overpowered everyone ???
  6. +22
    6 October 2022 16: 19
    A very funny statement. Against the background of Zeli's statements that there will be no negotiations until the change of chief. Circus with horses.
    1. 0
      6 October 2022 17: 33
      before the change of chief.
      It will be interesting if Kadyrov comes to replace laughing .
      1. -1
        6 October 2022 18: 43
        I would not underestimate the ability of Ramzan Akhmatych to adapt to the situation.
  7. +24
    6 October 2022 16: 19
    Stop talking about negotiations! Damn it, we don't need negotiations, when will they understand this at the top? When will it reach our leaders that any negotiations with the enemy now, except unconditional surrender of all Ukraine will be a betrayal in relation to those who are at the front?! We must not stop the NVO until a complete victory and until the occupation of the entire territory of Ukraine. We do not need their territory, but until we do this - from this territory we will always be threatened by enemy troops.
    1. +1
      6 October 2022 16: 26
      God damn we don't need to negotiate
      It's up to the black tulips with the mobilized, then the society itself will request negotiations, well, at the cost of incredible efforts, they will receive them. Everyone is happy, the next elections will be held without excesses. There is an idea that such a role is destined for the mobilized, there are doubts that 300K doctors, teachers ... will be able to win the war.
      1. 0
        6 October 2022 16: 41
        This is up to black tulips with mobilized, then the society itself will request negotiations
        Society understands that the mobilized did not go to barbecues, but to war. So your thoughts are invalid.
        1. +17
          6 October 2022 17: 00
          And the society understands that it is once again being fooled. And I repeat the above thesis - with the first massive losses among the mobilized (and thanks to our generals, with knowledge from the times of Ochakov, most likely cannot be avoided), public dissatisfaction with the country's leadership will begin to grow like a snowball. Mothers, wives, who sent their men to fight, hoping that they will return, do not believe that trouble can come to their house. But when it comes, in addition to grief from loss, hatred will come to the one who sent her father, son, brother, husband to the front.
          1. +1
            7 October 2022 15: 33
            And the society understands that it is once again being fooled.

            What are they stupid about? Please be specific. With facts. That NATO was going to attack us with the hands of Ukraine? That 8 years killed civilians in the Donbass? That we were forced to fight?
            1. +1
              8 October 2022 06: 30
              Okay. As you say. Specifically.
              1. Where did the money go from the budget, if now there are not enough elementary and very necessary things in the army, such as means of communication, first aid kits, drones?
              2. Why does the car mechanic Valera, who worked 11 hours a day to feed three children, have to go to war, and the military professional Arkady sits at the location of the unit and smokes bamboo, while having a VPD once a year, a military mortgage, and a bunch of other benefits, including preferential and good enough pension?
              3. Why, if now there is a war for the survival of Russia, with all of NATO by Ukrainian hands, now on the territory of Russia, do our "tops" feel so sorry for the Ukrainian infrastructure and do not hit it? No rockets?
              4. Why, if we want to "denazify" Ukraine, did they exchange Mariupol cattle from Azov? Why were foreign mercenaries given away? Why did the boys die in Mariupol? So that these geeks in Turkey sunbathe on the beaches?
              5. If we want to "achieve all the goals" in the NWO, then why do our deceived leaders, at every opportunity and inconvenience, vote about negotiations with this "gang of drug addicts and neo-Nazis"?
              This is only a small part of the moments where we are ..., sorry, they are deceiving us as Orthodox. Can you answer these questions?
              1. 0
                8 October 2022 09: 49
                Comrade, you do not distinguish the word "facts" from the word "questions"? A fact is something proven. Example: Trump is the former President of the United States. Trump was president, then Biden replaced him. This is why Trump is a former President of the United States.
                Here is this - fact. You are asking questions, although you should have written answers, with evidence provided.
                I repeat: in what exactly are we being fooled? Give examples and evidence of this fact.
                1. 0
                  8 October 2022 10: 26
                  And you strain your brain, maybe you will see facts in questions? The questions, in case you haven't noticed, are based on facts. And do you want to try to answer the questions themselves? Well, at least about the exchange? Who screamed the most that we would judge the Nazis and no exchanges?
                  1. 0
                    8 October 2022 14: 23
                    The questions, in case you haven't noticed, are based on facts.
                    Again. Fact is a proven value. I don't see your evidence.
                    1. 0
                      8 October 2022 16: 12
                      Has there been an exchange of kov from Azov? Is this not a fact?
                      1. 0
                        9 October 2022 03: 52
                        The exchange has taken place. Do you know all the terms of this exchange? What did they agree on there besides the exchange? And further. I myself am not happy with this, but, firstly, our guys were pulled out there. Without this exchange, we would have lost them. Secondly, if the FSB and the SVR have not completely lost their professionalism, then I have hope that no one will go unpunished. Maybe not now, but later.
                        Outplayed the tribunal for an exchange? Yes. But the exchange happened, and it was reported. They didn't hide him. If we had been fooled, we would have known about him much later.
                      2. 0
                        9 October 2022 04: 30
                        Yes, you are full. I don’t say a word for the fact that the guys were pulled out - I myself wrote under some article that it didn’t matter who they exchanged for, the main thing was that they returned ours. But why was the hair on the asses to tear and lie? They say: the tribunal, they all Khan. And why they didn’t hide it, I can tell you - if it had surfaced later from other sources, citizens would have raised such a fuss. By the way, the Ministry of Defense announced the fact of the exchange after all TG channels and news outlets announced this. Maybe until the last they hoped that they would not find out? That's why no one met the guys ... And the terms of the exchange were unequivocally favorable. For dill. Abramovich personally delivered mercenaries on his plane with tequila to the hospitable Turks. But no one wanted to deceive us plebeians, it just happened that way.
                      3. 0
                        9 October 2022 04: 33
                        Now the second fact, which you have no time to catch from the question. Loss of 1500000 uniforms. Money came from the budget, but where is the uniform? And where is the money now?
                        Do you pay taxes by the way?
                      4. 0
                        9 October 2022 06: 22
                        Loss of 1500000 uniforms. Money came from the budget, but where is the uniform? And where is the money now?
                        If theft is revealed, do you really think that they will not deal with it? Another question is that we will most likely not be informed about this.
                        Every law-abiding citizen pays taxes.
                      5. 0
                        9 October 2022 07: 50
                        Do you pay taxes to be stolen? Will they deal with the thieves, just like Taburetkin's girlfriend? Do you SERIOUSLY believe this? It's not a single episode issue - it's a control system issue. Everyone who is in power steals. And this is an indisputable fact. And because of this theft, irresponsibility, outright betrayal of the interests of the Fatherland, by the so-called "elites", our country now looks like a garbage meadow, which only, excuse me, doesn't give a shit. Because of the stupidity, mediocrity and impunity of these vile bureaucrats, our compatriots have died, are dying and will continue to die. Just do not write about 8 years, the killing of children in the Donbass, cornered and other official blah blah blah. If they were driven into a corner, then it was necessary to prepare for war, and not plunder money and organize biathlons. What prevented you from entering the Donbass and protecting people back in 2014? And I'll tell you - money. Money. Which are so needed by all the heroes of capitalist labor, friends of the godlike and sun-faced, do not mention his name in vain. Or maybe they were afraid of the sanctions? And after 8 years, they puffed up? Take off your rose-colored glasses. It's time to accept the truth for what it is - they lie to us every second, it's just elevated to the rank of domestic politics. And they lie without embarrassment, because you and I are a gray mass for them, biomaterial for legitimizing elections and a cash cow. That's all. As I understand it, I will not receive clear answers to the questions posed from you. I am absolutely sure that the Russians are being fooled like the Orthodox. You do not agree with this, it is your right. The facts don't bother you either. Well. Blessed is he who believes - it is easy for him on his way.
                      6. 0
                        9 October 2022 08: 51
                        After the tax has entered the budget, the citizen has nothing to do with it anymore.
                        This is first. Secondly, waving a saber on the couch is easy. If you are outraged by something, then why don't you express your indignation to the person to whom it is addressed? To those who did not keep track of the missing form?
                        Think about it. I have the honor.
                      7. 0
                        9 October 2022 10: 48
                        And you are a dreamer. Or a joker? What, firstly, what, secondly, did not find what to answer in essence? They asked for facts, so why are you changing shoes on the go? Think about it. And you don’t need to define me on the sofa, dear. Yes, and they say that it is easy to steal in Russia, those who are in power or wear big stars on shoulder straps are even easier than waving a saber on the couch. Health and happiness to you and your pink elephants.
        2. +7
          6 October 2022 17: 48
          Quote: Grandfather is an amateur
          Society understands that the mobilized did not go to barbecues, but to war. So your thoughts are invalid.

          Let them then explain to society why they are sent to slaughter. for whose interests. if they do not touch the property of Ukraine, carry out agreements behind their backs, throw away the liberated territories with difficulty, constantly beg for negotiations. Maybe well, fuck them, let them save their own asses and their own loot.
          1. +1
            7 October 2022 04: 05
            Firstly, cattle are sent "for slaughter". You called the mobilized so, did I understand correctly?
            Secondly, one of the mistakes of our General Staff is late mobilization. It should have been done much earlier.
            Infrastructure should be destroyed - here I agree. She gets hit too hard. But this question is not for me.
            And people go to destroy the enemy. And they will destroy.
    2. +1
      6 October 2022 18: 28
      Stop talking about negotiations! Damn it, we don't need negotiations, when will they understand this at the top?
      We don't need negotiations. And they apparently have their own interests there, business chimzness, property is frozen. It is necessary to somehow agree and at least transfer it into money and put it in your pockets.
    3. -1
      6 October 2022 19: 01
      Stop talking about negotiations!

      That's right, grandfather!

      Catch:

      “Today, even the most radical measures cannot be called radical, and the most total war is not total enough.” ©
    4. +1
      6 October 2022 19: 59
      Why is their territory not needed? After all, this is our land. For which a sea of ​​Russian blood has been shed. Russian people have always lived on it. Why should we leave it to our enemies, the Nazis and Bandera?
      1. +1
        7 October 2022 04: 09
        Because the territory, the population of which is hostile to us, is useless. And in the west of Ukraine there are enough of them. And: people will decide for themselves who they are with. Liberated territories - decided. And further to the west - I'm not sure that they will want to become part of the Russian Federation. Forcibly compel?
    5. -1
      7 October 2022 13: 35
      We do not need their territory, but until we do this - from this territory we will always be threatened by enemy troops.

      If this is our territory, then we will get a common border with Poland not only in Kaliningrad, and from there we will again be threatened by enemy troops. Let's liberate Poland (our land - it was part of the Republic of Ingushetia) - we will again get a common border with Germany. So what do you propose that enemy troops do not threaten us from abroad? To seize the whole world, that is, to liberate? Or is the whole world in ruins? Then we will definitely not be threatened by any enemies - what are the threats from the dead and for the dead?
      1. 0
        7 October 2022 15: 37
        There will be no common border with Poland. It is enough for us to force the capitulation of Ukraine, demand strict observance of complete demilitarization, under our constant control, and leave western Ukraine to those who live there. It is definitely not needed as part of the Russian Federation. So it will be a buffer between us and NATO. And the whole world is in ruins. if anything, they promised back in April, remember the words about strikes on decision-making centers. They are, if anything, in Washington, London and partly in Brussels.
  8. +14
    6 October 2022 16: 20
    I wonder what Matvienko will say if Ukraine retakes Kherson...
    1. +10
      6 October 2022 16: 47
      I wonder what Matvienko will say if Ukraine retakes Kherson...

      There is an opinion that the same thing.
    2. AAK
      -3
      6 October 2022 17: 47
      She will croak something about another "gesture of good will" and about the pain of the heart for her native Ukrainian people who are suffering ... She won't tell her little son - dear, take a machine gun and go to war!
    3. +3
      6 October 2022 18: 29
      Quote: Maxim L
      what will Matvienko say if Ukraine retakes Kherson...

      Yes, she was asked here about the problems of housing and communal services and the absence of doctors in Taganrog, so in response she began to talk about trams and the embankment. So in case something happens with Kherson, he will find something to tell about.
      “Some do not learn anything, and do not want to learn.
      Keane American have seen enough,
      Or the roof is torn off by greed?
      You tell him about anomalies, he tells you about swag.
      They don’t want to think about anything, except grandmas,
      Until the intestines scatter over the branches. "(c)
  9. +26
    6 October 2022 16: 20
    That the goals in the NWO have already been achieved, is it possible to go home? Something quickly began to turn on the back.
    1. 0
      6 October 2022 17: 49
      Quote: ALARI
      That the goals in the NWO have already been achieved, is it possible to go home? Something quickly began to turn on the back.

      They immediately requested them as soon as the original plan failed. most likely they knew the true state of affairs in the army.
      1. +5
        6 October 2022 18: 18
        The bluff failed and with sixes in hand, the game does not go at all.
      2. -1
        7 October 2022 13: 39
        most likely knew the true state of affairs in the army

        They didn’t know on February 24, but they found out a maximum of a week later, so they still haven’t recovered from the shock.
  10. +15
    6 October 2022 16: 22
    Moscow is ready to stop hostilities in Ukraine, but only on its own terms.
    Conditions, in the studio! But here it’s not even a matter of conditions, but what will happen to that side if it violates the conditions? Public censure? Suppose, in the conditions, Ukraine was prescribed not to join NATO and the EU, but they were accepted, what then?
  11. +7
    6 October 2022 16: 23
    They are not in a hurry and do not worry, if only they were mobilized or their children, relatives. So I think the agreements would have been reached faster.
  12. 0
    6 October 2022 16: 24
    Comme je veux rester positif et optimiste je vais dire que je vois cet appel comme un dernier appel...Après cela les frappes commenceront mais vous pourrez toujours dire : "vous voyez jusqu'au bout nous avons appelé à la négociation" enfin j' espere :-(

    Since I want to stay positive and optimistic, I will say that I consider this call as the last call ... After that, keystrokes will begin, but you can still say: "you see to the end that we called for negotiations", finally, I hope : - (
    1. +3
      6 October 2022 16: 29
      Quote from Yanni Kounnar
      you will still be able to say "you see to the end that we called for negotiations", finally I hope :-(

      I also hope that such statements are made only "for blazeera". "We offered - they didn't want to." And after that, let the West try to speak.
    2. +11
      6 October 2022 16: 37
      The last call happens only at school, in the theater - the 3rd, please do not confuse ...., after the issuance of the Decree on the outskirts of the ban on negotiations with the Russian Federation, all subsequent statements by officials of our country are simply inappropriate.
      1. +4
        6 October 2022 17: 06
        There seems to be no ban on negotiations with the Russian Federation, that we are talking about Putin personally. There, the emphasis is on the current president ..
        1. 0
          6 October 2022 21: 36
          Quote: vitvit123
          , that we are talking about Putin personally. There, the emphasis is on the current president ..

          So, Matvienko does not consider Putin to be president? To her Butovo training ground!
          1. 0
            7 October 2022 10: 16
            What does it have to do with who Matviyenko considers the president? .. the point is that Putin said with a personality that there would be no talk .. ours immediately climbed through the "anus" with parliament ..
    3. 0
      6 October 2022 17: 03
      What nonsense... What keys? Will we throw nuclear bombs? Or will the NWO be called WHO?
  13. +11
    6 October 2022 16: 25
    The road to the negotiating table begins on the battlefield. From decisive victories. I don’t see that Ukraine has decisively lost. The Armed Forces of Ukraine have mobilized, they are preparing reservists, they are delivering weapons to it, they are successfully counterattacking. Victory is still very far away! hi hi
  14. +13
    6 October 2022 16: 25
    it is these compradors at the top who are doing everything to delay the duration of the operation as long as possible, as a result of which our losses only increase, the loss of the material base in new territories
    these are the enemies they need to be kept in camps
  15. +6
    6 October 2022 16: 26
    Somehow, in her speech on TV, I did not hear anything about our conditions.
  16. +3
    6 October 2022 16: 27
    Chairman of the Federation Council of the Russian Federation Valentina Matvienko at the summit of speakers of parliaments of the G20 countries invited the delegation of the Verkhovna Rada of Ukraine to sit down at the negotiating table.

    "Let's sit down at the negotiating table right today on the platform of the parliamentary twenty. The parliament of Russia, the parliament of Ukraine. Let's try to understand each other, find agreements," Matvienko said.
    1. +14
      6 October 2022 17: 14
      The homeric laughter of dill was her answer and the disapproving obscene expressions of the common people. fellow But the negotiators were not at all embarrassed by this. wassat
  17. +16
    6 October 2022 16: 27
    IMHO, every time we ask for peace talks, we show weakness and project uncertainty. Zelensky, with his decree banning negotiations with the Russian Federation, gave us a wonderful reason not to repeat these mistakes over and over again until a really opportune moment. But instead we continue this meaningless reflective activity.
    1. +8
      6 October 2022 16: 51
      Agree, Zelensky is worthy of an award from the state of Russia for his decree, otherwise our matvienki, Abramoviches will hand over and sell everything.
  18. +11
    6 October 2022 16: 28
    The woman has completely lost her mind. It's time for her to retire. What other negotiations! Has history taught you anything?
    1. +6
      6 October 2022 17: 12
      She states the desire of the gangway, she was instructed to do this, the woman. feel
    2. +3
      6 October 2022 18: 01
      Quote: mark_rod
      The woman has completely lost her mind. It's time for her to retire. What other negotiations! Has history taught you anything?

      What they have, at least the moral right, so to disgrace the country and the people.
    3. +3
      6 October 2022 18: 05
      The woman has completely lost her mind. It's time for her to retire.
      What other pension? Yes, for one desire to agree on something with the Nazis, it is necessary to put it against the wall without further ado. And then I see that there are a lot of unfinished Bandera people in the government. It's time to weed them.
  19. +11
    6 October 2022 16: 29
    these ghouls would have agreed long ago. but here’s the bad luck - the former partners didn’t brew this mess so that now it’s so easy to let it slip off.
  20. -1
    6 October 2022 16: 31
    Negotiations can only be conducted on the border with Poland. And not with the Ukrainian authorities, but with the United States.
  21. +2
    6 October 2022 16: 32
    Valkntina Matvienko, herself originally from Ukraine. Does she trust her countrymen? Already Minsk-1,2,3,4 ... and so on was there any sense? ..
  22. +15
    6 October 2022 16: 32
    “Let's sit down at the negotiating table right today on the platform of the parliamentary G20: the parliament of Russia, the parliament of Ukraine. Let's try to understand each other, find agreements,” said Ms. Matviyenko during today's GXNUMX meeting.
    Isn't this a CBO drain?
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  24. +7
    6 October 2022 16: 32
    True, one nuance remains not entirely clear here - as officials said, the new subjects became part of Russia within the borders of the former Ukrainian regions, part of whose territory is under the control of the Armed Forces of Ukraine. It is still unclear how the issue of these territories will be resolved.

    Clearly, just like with Minsk, we will persuade them to withdraw their troops for 8 years while they build a new NATO-style army. With such a motley elite, we will go far.
  25. +15
    6 October 2022 16: 34
    Mask do not mask your thoughts, the journalists highlighted the main thing. And it didn't "break out" Matviyenko has already made a similar statement. Given her political weight, we can assume that this is not only her personal opinion.
  26. +13
    6 October 2022 16: 35
    Speaker of the Federation Council Matvienko said that the NWO would be terminated only on Russian terms, and offered Ukraine negotiations

    You need to read like this:
    Speaker of the Federation Council Matviyenko sternly stated (VERY VERY TERRIBLY stated) that the NWO will be terminated ONLY on Russian terms, and .... offered Ukraine negotiations...


    Need comments? So I don't have them...
    And even if there is, it is exclusively obscene ...
  27. +14
    6 October 2022 16: 36
    He speaks about the world, then he needs it more. This is evidence of our weakness. Maybe, of course, still a tactical move with the desire to show themselves to the world as humanists, but it seems not in this case.
  28. +5
    6 October 2022 16: 36
    They continue to live in their own world. In the meantime, they are predicting an attack on Berdyansk. For now, everything has worked out. Let's see.
  29. +8
    6 October 2022 16: 36
    It was necessary to bargain when they stood near Kyiv.
  30. +5
    6 October 2022 16: 37
    Ukraine and the USA and Europe have already said 1000 times that they will not go to any world! but it doesn’t reach our current, if they win, they will go to negotiations!
  31. +9
    6 October 2022 16: 46
    What does it bring, what kind of negotiations can there be? Well, Ukraine will agree to the demands of Russia, over the next 5 years, Ukraine will be pumped with such weapons that they will beat them already on Red Square. There was only one hope left for Zelensky to prevent negotiations.
    1. +6
      6 October 2022 16: 53
      They don't look that far. At least until the conditional "tomorrow" they still have to sit on a chair and steal.
    2. +11
      6 October 2022 17: 09
      or maybe they realized at the top that victory is not going to shine for us, and they are trying to "lay straws" in advance?
      1. +5
        6 October 2022 17: 18
        At the top, they may have understood and are ready to surrender everything, but Putin must understand that the European people will not leave him and his family alive. There was a demonstration execution of Gaddafi.
  32. +19
    6 October 2022 16: 48
    Moscow is ready to stop hostilities in Ukraine, but only on its own terms.
    Matvienko noted that the Russian side is ready to negotiate with Kyiv.
    And these people laugh at Zelensky and Klitschko?
    1. -1
      6 October 2022 19: 19
      Well, in general, it already smells of terrible feminism.
      This is not politics.
      here you will see.
  33. +6
    6 October 2022 16: 53
    Zadolbali already with their talk about the negotiations.
  34. +6
    6 October 2022 16: 54
    Again about the "negotiations"! Enough of the "Medin shame"! Already even the bloody clown issued an order - no negotiations. There can be only one question - capitulation! And then no other is given: either Ukroreich-or Russia!
  35. +10
    6 October 2022 16: 55
    Kremlinbots wandered into the region and robbed. Fuck you need such figures.
  36. +16
    6 October 2022 16: 56
    Ultimatums are set by the strongest, from the weak they look ridiculous. Our elite lives in a parallel universe or sits on serious drugs if they do not notice the growing clump of problems. belay
  37. +7
    6 October 2022 16: 56
    But according to the constitution of the Russian Federation, Matvienko is the second person in the state, i.e. in case of incapacity, the GDP will temporarily perform its duties. At the same time, looking at the second and third person (Volodin), they take doubts about their desire to staunchly defend the national interests of the Russian Federation
    1. +1
      6 October 2022 17: 18
      The second person is still Mishustin. And the third and fourth - as you said
      1. 0
        6 October 2022 17: 53
        Thanks for the correction, I was wrong. Mishustin seems to be the right guy
  38. +6
    6 October 2022 16: 56
    Winners do not offer negotiations.
  39. +6
    6 October 2022 17: 07
    You never cease to wonder, to be amazed at our authorities fellow You don't even know what to say! This is not even a rotten show off, this is psychiatry, perhaps an inadequate perception of the situation fool And they want to steer further! what
  40. +6
    6 October 2022 17: 09
    Matvienko, like our General Staff, exist in another dimension.
    1. -1
      6 October 2022 18: 59
      Star cook them in grub
      Duma obviously mixes blood.
  41. +7
    6 October 2022 17: 16
    How long will this mummy sit there.
  42. 0
    6 October 2022 17: 21
    And if the Ukrainians agree?
    Well, all of a sudden.
    Russia leaves dlnr, kherson, kharkov
    And then what?
    Ukrainians.prepare for war, Russian-speaking and pro-Russian survive. In general, another 5-8 years, and the Russian army will be waiting for one unit. Europe, meanwhile, is pumped to the eyeballs with gas, and everyone can arrange another conflict
    It looks like they are waiting for the Ukrainians to disagree
  43. +2
    6 October 2022 17: 23
    What? Again? It's time to register this elderly lady with her relatives in the zone for life.
  44. 0
    6 October 2022 17: 25
    I remembered a phrase from the legendary movie: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wfnzbO7_WWE
  45. Eug
    +7
    6 October 2022 17: 28
    I understand it this way - the rulers of Russia understood what they were getting into, and are trying to "save face". Some are more concerned about this, others less - hence the difference in the "flexibility" of the position.
    1. -1
      6 October 2022 19: 11
      Yes, no, the Ruler understood this and the population, and the carriers of handbags and pinzhakov with ribbons are still in the know.
      Sand, by the way, also understood a very long time ago, but he has not yet changed his watch with skulls for armor and quadrocopters on the front, unlike, say, Klitschko.
  46. ZoV
    -12
    6 October 2022 17: 29
    Ukraine and this NWO, everything is secondary. The main goal of Russia is more global and long-term. This is to wrest the economy from the tenacious clutches of the West, fill up the dollar, "lower" the United States and create a kind of multipolar world, both in the economy and in politics .. And it seems to work ! We were not intimidated by sanctions and the economy is relatively stable .. There is serious support for Russia in the world.
    And we will deal with the "brothers" and remember this for a hundred years how to betray Russia!
  47. -1
    6 October 2022 17: 29
    Ukraine will not negotiate when we retreat, we must advance and, for example, capture Nikolaev, then they will negotiate.
  48. +2
    6 October 2022 17: 42
    Speaker of the Federation Council Matvienko said that the NWO would be terminated only on Russian terms, and offered Ukraine negotiations

    Let her go to the front, for example, to Svatovo, and there she will popularly explain to the guys what kind of conditions she wants to put forward to the ukroführer! Curiously, she will then return from there, or "heroically" die from ... Hymars? sad
  49. -1
    6 October 2022 18: 42
    In September, the press secretary of the President of the Russian Federation Dmitry Peskov said that he did not see the prerequisites for resuming negotiations with Kyiv.
    But the speaker of the upper house of the Russian parliament, Valentina Matvienko, sees ... the prerequisites, Valentina Vladimirovna is very sighted. feel
  50. +2
    6 October 2022 19: 25
    Repin's painting:
    Duma members write a letter to the Kyiv clown.
    wassat
  51. 0
    6 October 2022 19: 27
    Here are Matvienko’s words.
    Well, let’s sit down at the negotiating table right today, on the platform of the parliamentary GXNUMX. Parliament of Russia, Parliament of Ukraine. Let's try to understand each other and find agreements. And the last thing I want to say. Russia has repeatedly proposed a solution to the Ukrainian crisis. And we have already practically reached agreements in Istanbul. We were ready to move, but unfortunately, Ukraine then, obviously, being under external control, abandoned these agreements. We say again, we are for negotiations. We are for dialogue. We are for a peaceful, political solution to this crisis. Let's come to an agreement, let's sit down at the negotiating table.

    And in the article from someone’s head.
  52. +2
    6 October 2022 19: 37
    Some kind of stupidity. This woman seems to have lost her shores. What kind of negotiations are there when Bandera’s people beat our people? About our surrender on our terms? The losing side always asks for negotiations. And this man heads the Federation Council. That there was panic up there and our bosses were in confusion?
  53. +2
    6 October 2022 20: 13

    According to the speaker of the upper house of the Russian parliament, Valentina Matviyenko, Moscow is ready to stop hostilities in Ukraine, but only on its own terms.


    It is very stupid to demand negotiations when your army is retreating.
    1. -1
      7 October 2022 13: 52
      Why? This has happened quite often in history. They are discussing honorable surrender, keeping personal weapons for officers, etc.
  54. +1
    6 October 2022 20: 43
    "Katsenko offers to surrender."
  55. +1
    6 October 2022 23: 11
    It's clear! They are starting to exaggerate the topic of negotiations! This is, of course, good: the combat operations will stop, the soldiers called up for mobilization will go home.
    But this is the “Calm before the Storm” and the Storm will be from Ukrov and much more serious than now NWO! sad
  56. 0
    6 October 2022 23: 13
    There is confusion and vacillation at the top, and Matvienko is the second “Sands”, also bringing a blizzard. She is completely out of touch with reality. Or maybe it didn’t come off, but it was intended that way. Only for whom is the signal?
  57. 0
    7 October 2022 07: 08
    Our “elite,” as I understand it, is considering ALL options for how to get away from this topic. And the conclusion is simple - you don’t need to start something that you cannot do. And they say Zelensky is a clown...
  58. 0
    7 October 2022 12: 13
    If her husband or son were on the SVO line, she would talk differently! And so you can be smart!