Chairman of the State Duma Defense Committee Kartapolov urged to “stop lying” about the special operation

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Chairman of the State Duma Defense Committee Kartapolov urged to “stop lying” about the special operation

During the seven months of the special military operation in Ukraine, it becomes clear to an increasing number of Russian citizens that the authorities keep a lot of things under wraps about the course of hostilities and the successes of our armed forces. Colonel General Andrey Kartapolov, Chairman of the State Duma Defense Committee, drew attention to this.

According to the deputy, we must stop lying. The topic of the need for a more truthful presentation of information has repeatedly surfaced in the Russian media. But until now, society is saturated with flows of false information.



As Kartapolov noted, even in 1941, during the Great Patriotic War, the Soviet Information Bureau openly reported on retreats in various directions. People understood the danger of what was happening and prepared for a very different development of events.

Today the situation is very difficult. As the head of the Duma Committee on Defense noted on the air of Solovyov Live, the reports of the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation do not change. We constantly hear about the number of planes shot down, tanks, an armored personnel carrier of the enemy, about the colossal human losses of the Armed Forces of Ukraine. But for some reason, the enemy not only does not run out of tanks and armored personnel carriers, their number is sufficient to carry out counteroffensives on various sectors of the front.

All border villages of the Belgorod region are practically destroyed. We learn this from anyone - from governors and military correspondents,

- emphasized Kartapolov.

Kartapolov is a general and there is no reason not to trust his words. Indeed, the distortion of information can lead to the exact opposite effect. People see what is happening and understand that the authorities are not telling even a part of the truth. In the future, citizens may simply lose confidence in the leadership, and this is also one of the stakes of Russia's opponents.
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  1. -26
    5 October 2022 17: 06
    Kartapolov is a general and there is no reason not to trust his words.
    Maybe, but I would not say so confidently!
    1. +19
      5 October 2022 17: 14
      Well, if you were a general and "I wouldn't say so confidently" we would all be imbued and uncertainly believe you ....
      1. +7
        5 October 2022 17: 18
        Quote: DvaParovoza
        Well, if you were a general and "I wouldn't say so confidently" we would all be imbued and uncertainly believe you ....

        What did you want to say? I'm talking about the fact that if if "the general and his words there is no reason not to trust" it no longer works. There is no trust in the words of the generals. What did you want to say?
        1. +7
          5 October 2022 19: 01
          And this is about Yekaterinburg .. Once there was an article here that many pests of Russia live in this city and here is another confirmation:
          The reservists were not dressed, not shod and taught to march - in the Sverdlovsk region, conscripts are not only not provided with proper conditions, but they are not prepared for real combat operations. More than two weeks have passed since the announcement of partial mobilization in Russia. Meanwhile, in the Yelansky garrison, where, according to reports, three mobilized people have already died, lawlessness continues to happen.
          1. +1
            5 October 2022 20: 41
            And this is about Yekaterinburg ..

            so it's such a mess everywhere.
            1. +1
              6 October 2022 13: 19
              Quote from Alex
              And this is about Yekaterinburg ..

              so it's such a mess everywhere.


              It's time to shoot for the mess! Enemies have penetrated all levels.
          2. +3
            5 October 2022 22: 24
            Quote: krot
            And this is about Yekaterinburg .. Once there was an article here that many pests of Russia live in this city and here is another confirmation:
            The reservists were not dressed, not shod and taught to march - in the Sverdlovsk region, conscripts are not only not provided with proper conditions, but they are not prepared for real combat operations. More than two weeks have passed since the announcement of partial mobilization in Russia. Meanwhile, in the Yelansky garrison, where, according to reports, three mobilized people have already died, lawlessness continues to happen.

            So maybe that's what it's all about? Cause dissatisfaction of the people with a specially arranged mess.
      2. +6
        5 October 2022 21: 50
        Actually, if you take into account that the former Deputy Minister of Defense of Russia said this, then this is no longer just said - this is already an accusation. So words are not scattered. Well, unless our homegrown "cipsos" (well, or whatever we call them) now jump out and start manstrubating on the topic of lies, provocation, the fifth tenth column - these people cannot be confused with anyone by their usual standard psychological tricks.
      3. -5
        6 October 2022 03: 00
        General, chairman of the State Duma committee - and "doesn't understand why they say that they destroy tanks, but they have them" ??? .. Does he not know that weapons for the Armed Forces of Ukraine are collected from all countries of the former Warsaw Pact, and even in Africa?... He doesn’t know that the 4th wave of mobilization has already passed in Ukraine, and there are many more manpower there than we have?... While they were taking Mariupol, they liberated the LPR, occupied the Kherson region, and almost all of Zaporozhye - he was silent :(. And as soon as the counter-offensive of the Armed Forces of Ukraine happened (by the way, God knows what success, and with huge losses) - he suddenly became preoccupied with "poor notification of the people, due to which credit of trust in the authorities will be lost "...
        I think it's just PR. Like: "Look, good people - I'm the very representative of the people in power that you need! Vote for me in the next elections!"...
      4. +2
        6 October 2022 17: 38
        Kartapalov 18-21g Main Military-Political Directorate of the Armed Forces From December 19, 2016 to March 2017 - Commander of the Russian group of troops in the Syrian Arab Republic.
        4 months in total commanded in Syria Colossal experience
        We need to look at every general on the wiki who and where! As generals get into the State Duma, they immediately know what and how to do. Something all the generals did not demand in the State Duma to demand mobilization, how Ukraine went to mobilization.
        Colonel A.V. Kvachkov turned out to be right about mobilization! He was preparing an assassination attempt on Chubais! !
    2. -47
      5 October 2022 17: 17
      Kartapolov is a general and there is no reason not to trust his words.
      Well, the fact that he wore trousers with lompas does not make him an unambiguously honest and decent person. fool Most likely a liberalist who has climbed into the warm chair of the chairman of the State Duma Committee on Defense.
      As the on the air of "Soloviev Live" head of the Duma Committee on defense, reports of the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation
      request There was no other garbage resource for the "general". request
      Deputy Minister of Defense of the Russian Federation - Head of the Main Military-Political Directorate of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation (July 30, 2018 - October 5, 2021),
      In 2022, there would definitely be a candidate for relegation. angry
      From December 19, 2016 to March 2017 - Commander of the Russian group of troops in the Syrian Arab Republic.
      Taxied for 3 months and apparently taxied ..... just flew out.
      1. +29
        5 October 2022 17: 25
        Quote: Mavrikiy
        Most likely a liberalist who has climbed into the warm chair of the chairman of the State Duma Committee on Defense.

        Liberal at this age? fool
        Really correctly said, without any psychosis. There is nothing to pose as a mystery with obfuscation, when later information crawls out of another slot, but with distortions and a malicious tonality.
        1. +2
          5 October 2022 22: 02
          Quote: Genry
          Liberal at this age?

          This disease is accessible to all ages.
      2. -3
        5 October 2022 19: 12
        Now look how your comment was rated... Do you have any questions? SOFA GENERAL!!!
        1. -8
          5 October 2022 21: 06
          Quote: mvnmln
          Now look how your comment was rated... Do you have any questions? SOFA GENERAL!!!

          I, unlike you, couch foreman, do not care about grades. Any questions? Vasya...
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      4. kig
        +3
        6 October 2022 03: 32
        Quote: Mavrikiy
        Taxied for 3 months and apparently taxied ..... just flew out.
        He didn't take off, he took off. To the Deputy Minister of Defense. On the political and educational part. Immediately from Syria and to deputies. Apparently, sheer nonsense was not enough for the chair: the entry in the personal file "has combat experience."
    3. -8
      5 October 2022 17: 20
      There is a general... whose words I trust now.
      “I want to share with you another good news. The President of Russia conferred on me the rank of colonel-general,” Kadyrov said.
      1. kig
        -2
        6 October 2022 03: 34
        Quote: Sniper
        The President of Russia awarded me the rank of Colonel General

        So there is very little left to the real general.
    4. +17
      5 October 2022 17: 20
      Yes, the main question is something else:
      - in the reasons for such a foreign policy.

      Ok, tomorrow they will start laying out the truth 100%. Just think - what will happen on the same day? There will be a question about the names of the perpetrators and their responsibility, right? Will they go for it? The maximum that will be is the appointment, let's say, of those responsible for the mistakes of the Moscow Region and that's all.
      And the hero of the article must be guessed a member of which political party? Well, how strongly did they raise the question of the causes of probable failures and the question of identifying all those responsible? Is he strongly indignant there in the thought of how the children of deputies go to mobilization in the forefront?
      And so .. it’s more like a stuffing in a transmission from someone who promised to send three sons to war if there is the same war as in Afghanistan - just a cheap way to divert attention, show that we are all "in the same boat" and don't you dare think , it is not so.
      1. 0
        5 October 2022 17: 23
        Quote: Quote Lavrov
        And the hero of the article must be guessed a member of which political party?

        I don't think it's the CPRF...
        1. -1
          5 October 2022 22: 11
          Quote: Vladimir_2U
          Quote: Quote Lavrov
          And the hero of the article must be guessed a member of which political party?

          I don't think it's the CPRF...

          You don’t need to guess or think, info is available: EP.
      2. -3
        5 October 2022 18: 47
        Ok, tomorrow they will start laying out the truth 100%. Just think - what will happen on the same day?
        First of all, trust in the authorities will begin to return.
        There will be a question about the names of the perpetrators and their responsibility, right?
        In fact, only the court can appoint the guilty. Any person makes mistakes. When a mistake is made by a person with big shoulder straps, it can lead to losses. But a mistake is not a crime. If a person makes mistakes constantly, it is quite possible that he is incompetent or stupid. And it needs to be changed. But do not shoot, do not put in jail. A mistake is not a crime. Only in the time of Stalin could they be shot for mistakes, and even then not everyone was shot.
        1. +2
          5 October 2022 18: 57
          1. Why on earth? Did the personalities change in it only because they admitted their mistakes?
          2. Whom is the court then ???))) Isn't it funny yourself? And why do you have all the blame only on people with shoulder straps?
          1. 0
            5 October 2022 19: 08
            Why? Did the personalities change in it only because they admitted their mistakes?
            For example, I do not have a goal and desire to change personalities. I have a desire to win as soon as possible. Admitting mistakes is the first step towards correcting them.
            Whom is the court then ???))) Isn't it funny yourself? And why do you have all the blame only on people with shoulder straps?
            Those who are guilty of crimes are usually judged. Again, a mistake and a crime are not the same thing.
            1. -2
              5 October 2022 22: 17
              Quote: Vadmir
              Admitting mistakes is the first step towards correcting them.

              There is no confession in his mumbling ruling party (this is his party) did not sound.
            2. 0
              6 October 2022 15: 35
              Then how to qualify mistakes that lead to, if not catastrophic, then obviously a bad situation, situation? Not only during the NWO, not only. as a result of an error, there is not enough uniforms, about quadrocopters, in general, silence. Criminal errors. And for each such error, the person holding the position, in the conditions of this state of affairs (and we have only official peacetime) must answer with his head in the truest sense of the word. After all, in in our situation, every mistake is the lives of our guys. And we need a victory, I don’t see a different scenario in which Russia will stand as a single state. Therefore, it’s time to punish mistakes!
        2. +5
          5 October 2022 20: 47
          Mistake is not a crime

          I will connect tomorrow to the grandmother in the apartment instead of grounding to the bath phase. I'll say it's a mistake. It's not a crime to mix up the wires, right?
        3. +2
          5 October 2022 23: 41
          And we don’t consider the option with mistakes and sabotage, because after 2 mistakes you can see the system and do not forget that because of such mistakes the guys die.
        4. +2
          6 October 2022 01: 17
          In this situation, mistakes = crimes. Is technology lost? To hell with her. Our people are dying. Such "mistakes" must be fully accounted for.
      3. +2
        5 October 2022 19: 18
        Hello. Better the bitter truth than the sweet lie
      4. +1
        6 October 2022 15: 45
        right. Won for "mistakes" in the mobilization of the type removed the Khabarovsk military commissar Yuri Laiko? half of those mobilized were returned as not meeting the selection criteria. And where is he now? You think right. Working tirelessly on mobilization, but already in the Magadan region
    5. +31
      5 October 2022 17: 25
      Vladimir 2U - Kartopolov is the only person among those who not only have information, but also understand what exactly is a lie, or the Kremlin's concealment of the truth and inspires a lot of rumors and conjectures. We have lost the information war with a bang, we are suffering one defeat after another on the fronts, which are collapsing due to mediocre command and control of troops. Truly, a bitter truth is better than a sweet lie. And it wouldn't hurt the Kremlin not to reshuffle the generals, but to put at the head of the military units those who have experience in combat operations in Syria, Chechnya, and not parquet shamblers.
      1. +15
        5 October 2022 17: 44
        Well, some six months have passed, and already the general, deputy. The head of the defense policy committee woke up and noticed something was wrong. So straight and grit: "Let them tell us the truth, otherwise we are sitting here in the committee, we think and don’t know anything because of employment and even more further service to the people!"
        Nothing but a goat will be looked for. As soon as they find it, they will announce incomplete official compliance.
        1. Alf
          +10
          5 October 2022 18: 24
          Quote: astepanov
          Nothing but a goat will be looked for. As soon as they find it, they will announce incomplete official compliance.

          And they will move to another chair ...
          1. +2
            5 October 2022 22: 22
            Quote: Alf
            And they will move to another chair ...

            ..if "your own", one of those who are not abandoned.
            1. Alf
              0
              6 October 2022 19: 08
              Quote: DymOk_v_dYmke
              Quote: Alf
              And they will move to another chair ...

              ..if "your own", one of those who are not abandoned.

              And strangers don't go there.
      2. +17
        5 October 2022 18: 09
        Come on you! What is the lost information war? Our authorities and personally, "zeroed out", lost the information war with their lies long before the NWO. Nobody believes them anymore.
      3. MMX
        +6
        5 October 2022 18: 21
        Vladimir 2U - Kartopolov is the only person among those who not only have information, but also understand what exactly is a lie, or the Kremlin's concealment of the truth and inspires a lot of rumors and conjectures.


        There is one nuance here. General Kartapolov A.V. He completed his service in the RF Armed Forces a few months before the start of the NWO.
        Taking into account the fact that such operations are being prepared, what is called "ahead of time", I believe the general was aware of all the problems of the "system" from which he quit just a year ago ...
        And then "suddenly" "saw the light." What was silent before?
        1. +8
          5 October 2022 18: 31
          By the way ... and someone will remember right away, the names of those who said / predicted something like that ???
          Who warned ahead of time?
          I can only remember a couple of such names, they are more or less public.
          Not generals, but they seem to know the matter and do not hide it .... probably because they did not become generals.
          1. MMX
            +6
            5 October 2022 18: 59
            Of the public LOMs, only the obvious Strelkov is remembered. But he has a reputation. But among the generals "everything was according to plan".

            It is appropriate to note here that Strelkov's cart, in which he criticized the leadership of the RF Ministry of Defense, has seriously added subscribers in the last month, and at a solid pace ...

            It is worth noting that Putin himself, at one time, came to power on the wave of "the winner in the second Chechen war." It is quite possible that in the current conditions, we will witness the nomination of a real successor.
            1. +3
              5 October 2022 22: 27
              Quote: MMX
              It is worth noting that Putin himself, at one time, came to power on the wave of "the winner in the second Chechen war."

              He would have come without the Chechen and terruth threats.
              Appointed, means appointed, "panimash"!
              1. 0
                6 October 2022 08: 48
                "Panimash" only put a signature .. they were appointed by completely different people.
          2. +4
            5 October 2022 19: 07
            By the way ... and someone will remember right away, the names of those who said / predicted something like that ???
            Who warned ahead of time?
            I can only remember a couple of such names, they are more or less public.
            Not generals, but they seem to know the matter and do not hide


            ..... there was also a general ..... General Colonel Ivashov, a month before 24.02, who described how the NWO would be held ...
      4. -2
        5 October 2022 18: 32
        no no no, it won’t work to shuffle, it had to be done in May June, if I don’t see batches of mines planted for a period of 25 years, then I’m afraid it’s time to look for relatives in Israel or Canada laughing
      5. +5
        5 October 2022 18: 40
        [quote-Kartopolov is the only person among those who not only have information, but also understand what exactly is a lie, or the Kremlin’s concealment of the truth and causes a lot of rumors]
        [/ Quote]


        ..... yes, he is Kartapolov ..... In the summer he broadcast that the Russian Armed Forces are fighting so skillfully that they have no losses. , and therefore the Moscow Region does not report on them ..... in general, an honest person ....
      6. +2
        6 October 2022 05: 56
        I agree! But Kartapolov voiced only one segment - the military one from the circle of lies in which we are thanks to the exhortations of our leaders. "Parquet shamblers" (at all levels of leadership) must not only be "withdrawn" from the media space, but also "isolated"!
        Something is not visible "breakthroughs" either in the economy, or in the manufacturing sector, or in the defense complex and the army ... Only "pictures"!
        1. 0
          6 October 2022 18: 32
          I agree with you! Remove all the leading talk-showers from the media too. Let them go to the military correspondents, and not at studios from Ostankino broadcast for a million a month
      7. 0
        6 October 2022 18: 16
        He just said! Did he beat his chest on 11.09 in the State Duma from the podium?
        In the State Duma required mobilization? Where was he 1,5 months before the announcement of mobilization? He, a military man, should beat Volodin with his fists for Russia!
      8. 0
        7 October 2022 09: 05
        And what will the experience of Chechnya and Syria give here? And here and there, in fact, the fight against partisans, but here front-line operations against the regular army
    6. -23
      5 October 2022 17: 34
      Quote: Vladimir_2U
      Kartapolov is a general and there is no reason not to trust his words.
      Maybe, but I would not say so confidently!

      Hysterical general. He pretends not to know where the skakuas got their new weapons from. Let CNN or BBC take a look.
  2. +36
    5 October 2022 17: 07
    Correctly said, unfortunately, the bitter truth is better than omissions.
    1. +27
      5 October 2022 17: 11
      I will support, it is omissions that do a favor to the propaganda of the enemy.
      1. -20
        5 October 2022 17: 19
        Quote: ASAD
        I will support, it is omissions that do a favor to the propaganda of the enemy.

        And I will propose to cut off access to enemy propaganda on our resources. And not one dog will bark about them, as if it were normal. angry
        1. +2
          5 October 2022 17: 40
          the proposal is rejected by modern reality. and this is not pleasing to the real tops, about which Isha Putra spoke - for there is your house.
        2. +7
          5 October 2022 18: 01
          and they don’t need to do anything, the Defense Ministry themselves have already discredited themselves better than any Ukrainian propaganda
        3. +16
          5 October 2022 18: 04
          Quote: Mavrikiy
          Quote: ASAD
          I will support, it is omissions that do a favor to the propaganda of the enemy.

          And I will propose to cut off access to enemy propaganda on our resources. And not one dog will bark about them, as if it were normal. angry

          With such an approach - to hush up everything and pretend that everything is according to plan, it can quickly happen that there will simply be no "dogs" (the expression is taken from you) in the country, because they run out, and giving birth to and preparing new ones is a rather slow matter and troublesome (taken in the TGC Private Gubarev): I personally saw how the commander of the ZVO, Colonel-General Zhidko, personally commanded a platoon attack on the company (!) Fortified the enemy on the Dolina-Krasnopolye front. It was the eighth similar attempt, during which, according to my calculations, 120 people died. And after this task began to be sabotaged by the fighters, the angry Zhidko reproached us: "How did you go on the assault that you don't have two hundredths?"
          Zhidko and other Lapins (I will not name names, but I have all the moves recorded) perfectly saw the state of the front, which was catastrophic. The state of affairs in this sector of the front was also known in the General Staff (at the beginning of July). But no one drew any conclusions and did nothing. They write that Zhidko was removed from the post of commander of the ZVO. But we have dozens and hundreds of such liquid paws. These are people who fence themselves with a wall of lies and plunge us into a sea of ​​blood and a swamp of corpses on the front lines. ...
          Well, of course, military correspondents and Donbass mobiles are to blame for the collapse on the Kharkov front, and not Zhidko, not Lapin, and not the General Staff. They write nonsense in their telegrams, such scoundrels.

          PS I have nothing to add to what Private Pavel Gubarev said. Such is the price of lies and silence. And if the information had not been hidden, then Zhidko would certainly not have been able to afford such an attitude towards the fighters. They would have removed it earlier, and this would have been useful for both the cause and the lives of the fighters.
          1. -1
            5 October 2022 18: 20
            personally commanded a platoon attack on a company (!) Fortified enemy

            And what else is a "fortified" mouth?
            And this "fortified" cannot be destroyed by artillery, must it be by storm? Or is that how they teach in our academies? Someone is lying ... or completely narrow-minded.
            1. +4
              5 October 2022 18: 35
              Quote: Konnick
              personally commanded a platoon attack on a company (!) Fortified enemy

              And what else is a "fortified" mouth?
              And this "fortified" cannot be destroyed by artillery, must it be by storm? Or is that how they teach in our academies? Someone is lying ... or completely narrow-minded.

              Try to write these questions about lying and (not) far too, because feedback is closed for Pavel Gubarev, A. Zhuchkovsky (he also hosted this text). I think you use THC. If he has the desire and time (Zhuchkovsky, like Gubarev, also joined the army, now in the Russian Federation), he may answer you himself and explain everything or somehow connect with Pavel. Since you have questions about the personality of P. Gubarev. And to try to answer instead of him, I think he does not need lawyers, in my person.
    2. +15
      5 October 2022 17: 11
      Liars from the Moscow Region, the authorities from anyone dig a hole for themselves in the first place. They have nowhere to run. They are not Gorbachevs, not Khodarkoi and Abramovichs. They have already become in line with the whole country. And them including
      1. 0
        6 October 2022 22: 26
        They have already become in line with the whole country. And if they continue to lie, hush up, it will be bad for everyone. And including them
        Their rows are on the Arbat. The front will not reach them soon. In the meantime, they will reach half of the country's population, protecting themselves.
    3. +17
      5 October 2022 17: 13
      I will support too. Under the circumstances, being honest with citizens will only play into the hands of the state. And then it won't last long.
      1. +7
        5 October 2022 17: 34
        Only not with citizens, but with the population. There are no citizens in a bourgeois state.
        1. +1
          5 October 2022 18: 54
          Only not with citizens, but with the population. There are no citizens in a bourgeois state.
          It depends solely on who is positioning themselves. And in the bourgeois State there are people with a civil position, and in the politicized communist-socialist State there are inhabitants who behave like amoeba.
    4. +15
      5 October 2022 17: 42
      Correctly said, I am from the Belgorod region and I know firsthand, I have seen a lot with my own eyes! And involuntarily you ask questions while listening to Konashenko, for whom does he give information? And the people who live here want answers, but so far only questions!
      1. -11
        5 October 2022 17: 55
        Konashenko gives a brief report on the activities of the RF Ministry of Defense, and not on the activities of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, do you catch the difference? Information about attacks on our cities, committed or prevented terrorist attacks, etc. is made either by local authorities or federal structures.
      2. -2
        5 October 2022 18: 14
        Quote: machinistvl
        Correctly said, I am from the Belgorod region and I know firsthand, I have seen a lot with my own eyes!

        And is it true that you bombed all the border villages there?
  3. +16
    5 October 2022 17: 08
    If they stop lying, what will be left? laughing
    1. +13
      5 October 2022 17: 38
      Quote from Cheburek
      If they stop lying, what will be left? laughing

      Report of the head of the fire guard to the top. We left on time, extinguished correctly, everything burned down. hi
  4. +21
    5 October 2022 17: 08
    Putin, at the beginning of his presidential career, spoke of the collapse of the USSR as a lie to himself in the party leadership. Now he himself steps on this rake, maybe the person is different, since he does not remember what he condemned, now he himself has become like that.
  5. +18
    5 October 2022 17: 09
    It's not just a lie, but also the oddities of the operation, obviously coming from above. By the way, before the start of the operation, Kartapolov said at Solovyov's evening that dismantling Ukraine is not a problem. Two weeks and in ladies. Maybe he meant Ukraine without the support of the West? Did it feel real?
    1. +6
      5 October 2022 17: 41
      Well, for the first two weeks there was no such strong support for Ukraine by the West, which seemed quite realistic. Do not forget that our army stood near Kyiv, and if it were not for all sorts of "gestures of good will", it is quite possible that the situation would not be so tragic now.
      1. 0
        7 October 2022 09: 11
        Oh, good already about gestures ... These kind gestures are the same as the recent regroupings. It's called underestimating the enemy.
        1. 0
          7 October 2022 14: 24
          Do you really think that comrades from Lavrov's quote are sitting in the General Staff of the Russian Federation? No, it smells like betrayal.
  6. +7
    5 October 2022 17: 09
    During the seven months of the special military operation in Ukraine, it becomes clear to an increasing number of Russian citizens that the authorities keep a lot of things under wraps about the course of hostilities and the successes of our armed forces.

    That is why I fundamentally do not listen to our official propaganda, and even more so I do not listen to the enemy. request
    1. +9
      5 October 2022 17: 12
      Most lie on fishing, in politics and in war
    2. +2
      5 October 2022 18: 57
      That is why I fundamentally do not listen to our official propaganda, and even more so I do not listen to the enemy.
      And during the war, is there objective information that is not propaganda?
      1. 0
        5 October 2022 19: 58
        Quote: Vadmir
        And during the war, is there objective information that is not propaganda?

        During the war, propaganda rules, I think... what And objective information is only confirmed results of military operations. Everything else is hidden by the fog of war, and sometimes long after the war itself. request
  7. +19
    5 October 2022 17: 10
    Is it good or bad news,
    Report everything to me!
    Better bitter but true
    Than pleasant, but flattery!

    Only if enta news
    It will be again - not God’s message,
    You for that kind of truth
    You can sit down for ten years!. (C)
  8. +7
    5 October 2022 17: 11
    This will lead to the opposite effect, which has already been proven - capping entails huge losses that could have been avoided.
  9. +28
    5 October 2022 17: 11
    If they were not going to fight seriously by all means, then why did they get involved? The infrastructure must be disabled, and not used as meat by Russian soldiers.
    1. -7
      5 October 2022 17: 31
      This is an agreement, an exchange, there are daughters, grandchildren, families - here the women give birth in such a way that partners will also judge with people, the main thing is the family. This is not Stalin, who sacrificed everything for the sake of victory. and the years take their toll, priorities change ... Biden has a staff of clues, and we don’t even stand close by - a tradition! but this is garbage - the reason for the centrifugal force from Moscow - these are the atheists in power at the place of worship. it is high time to give the Kremlin to the priests, then Russia will stop losing for the first time since 1917.
    2. +1
      6 October 2022 18: 57
      Our authorities need to prepare in three years! And they wanted to explain the truth to them. The Wehrmacht, 8 months before the start of the war, began to prepare a barboros plan, and then the specialists were. And our General Staff was cooler than the Wehrmacht! They made a plan in a month, but as simple as a child's drawing. They even forgot that covert mobilization is announced for each plan at the same time. The feeling that by the age of 60 the generals of the General Staff finally had childish views on the war and on parades appeared
  10. +11
    5 October 2022 17: 12
    Unfortunately, once the analytical portal I respected slipped into publications like "One general said that the other general did not say" IMHO (((
    1. +12
      5 October 2022 17: 17
      This is already a wake-up call if you didn’t understand this, and the cup of lies is already starting to overflow even among the chairmen of the State Duma Committee. Do you need anyone else higher?
  11. +6
    5 October 2022 17: 12
    The head of Chechnya, Ramzan Kadyrov, was awarded the rank of colonel general. Kadyrov announced this on his Telegram channel.

    He also said that Putin had already "personally" congratulated him on his new title.

    "Decree number 709 came out. Vladimir Vladimirovich personally informed me about this and congratulated me," Kadyrov said. But Kadyrov was not noticed in a lie ...
    1. -3
      5 October 2022 17: 18
      And it's nothing that Ramzan Akhmatovich Kadyrov's birthday is 46 years old today. Happy birthday Ramazan Akhmatovich! Akhmat is strong!!! VO somehow forgot.
      1. ZoV
        -6
        5 October 2022 17: 29
        Quote: tralflot1832
        And it's nothing that Ramzan Akhmatovich Kadyrov's birthday is 46 years old today. Happy birthday Ramazan Akhmatovich! Akhmat is strong!!! VO somehow forgot.

        He was given the rank of Colonel General like .. I think he deserved it! hi
      2. +10
        5 October 2022 17: 35
        The scoop, as it is ... ".... and in connection with ..... the year" ...... And what words did he say about the totalitarian regime, how he breathed .....
    2. +11
      5 October 2022 17: 29
      Quote: Igor Malyshev
      But Kadyrov was not noticed in a lie ...

      Yes, he only slightly exaggerated or reported about the future.

      And his idea to strike nuclear weapons on his territory (so far under Ukraine) ...
      1. -6
        5 October 2022 18: 10
        Quote: Genry
        And his idea to strike nuclear weapons on his territory (so far under Ukraine) ...

        The Soviet Union once hit nuclear weapons on its territory two hundred times.
    3. 0
      7 October 2022 09: 16
      Well, he took an online course for a colonel general. I wonder if he can at least lead a motorized rifle battalion from point A to point B? In other matters, like our general minister
  12. +7
    5 October 2022 17: 14
    But for some reason, the enemy not only does not run out of tanks and armored personnel carriers, their number is sufficient to carry out counteroffensives on various sectors of the front.

    It is rather the problem of the lack of political will to "fight like an adult", which is far from being demonstrated for the first time since 2014.
    1. 0
      6 October 2022 19: 15
      So why would he run out if we fired from 7% of the area of ​​​​Ukraine and 93% under the Kyiv regime! It's good that 50% knocked out Ukraine's personal armored vehicles in 7 months. Otherwise, they would have rolled us out in a month if not their mess. Now their mess has spread to us, now we are in a complete mess. We think! We coped with the mess in parts in 3,5 months. , in terms of the surrender of territories? In a month, we can lose 75% of the territories after September 30, something reminiscent of 1914 1917
  13. +15
    5 October 2022 17: 17
    For these words alone, many thanks to General Kartapolov!
  14. +7
    5 October 2022 17: 19
    The bitter truth is better than to draw the right conclusions.
    During the Great Patriotic War, this was understood, now the lessons of the past are unfortunately forgotten ..
  15. +3
    5 October 2022 17: 19
    But didn’t the Duma itself (with the Committee on Defense) pass laws on the secrecy of NVO data? So it’s impossible to tell the truth - they think out the rest and fantasize. hi
    1. 0
      5 October 2022 17: 44
      Telling the truth is not the same as stopping lying.
  16. +5
    5 October 2022 17: 19
    So put normal, adequate people in the press service department of MORF! And then in this department, headed by Konashenkov, there are people who, in my opinion, do not know how to use a calculator and at least elementary Wikipedia (su-25). And who, apart from the number 200 or 300, no longer know numbers.
    It’s also impossible to compose texts normally for voice acting on the air. Therefore, after a few months, no one believed Konashenkov, and after seven months, many telegram channels no longer publish the report of the press service of the Moscow Region or publish it in order to identify inaccuracies and outright mistakes in the report.
  17. +3
    5 October 2022 17: 21
    Correctly! The summer of 1941 repeats itself! Only here in the reports of the Sovinformburo during the war they told the truth, no matter how bitter it was - from the memoirs of his father, who started the war in Leningrad and ended in Koenigsberg (the current regional center of Kaliningrad)!
    1. +6
      5 October 2022 17: 27
      And no one ever tells the whole truth.
      This is the same axiom and does not require proof.
      This is especially noticeable when things go wrong.
      At the expense of lying / inventing something that did not really exist ... EVERYONE also sinned with this.
  18. +8
    5 October 2022 17: 22
    Chairman of the State Duma Defense Committee Kartapolov urged to “stop lying” about the special operation
    . It seems that they gave the go-ahead and now all the "most courageous" have begun to cut the truth of the uterus !!!
    And before that, when it was NECESSARY to SCREAM and HIT THE HEAD ON THE WALL of the boss ... in general, FIGHT against the wall, with the corresponding result, where were those current "most courageous" ???
    Those who from the very beginning tried to reason with those in charge, to convey a simple truth, once or twice and counted, it was and to see, to hear them now, it is very problematic !!!
    Nobody loves the prophets in their own country, especially those who have serious deeds, mistakes heaped up and now with great difficulty and blood all this will have to be corrected ....
  19. +2
    5 October 2022 17: 24
    How many noticed, in Russia they do not know how to speak with the population and convey information. Constant omissions or mean portions of information, on which they then begin to draw their conclusions.
    Who should a Russian citizen listen to? The cries of the fanatic Solovyov and his colleagues? Who always offer to shoot everyone and are looking for the guilty. Speeches by Zakharova? She has other tasks. Talking Mustache? Who never knows anything, but can always refute. Federal channels that take all the information from military correspondents.
    What cannot be taken away from the United States, Western countries, and even the same Ukraine, is the delivery of information. Of course, I'm not talking about general lies, as practiced in these countries, about the constant maintenance of information.
    Most likely, the point is not even in the desire to hide something, but in the absence of qualified people who can and know how to speak the right way. This is just bad work.
    1. +3
      5 October 2022 17: 42
      It's simple, to speak means to answer questions. Including very uncomfortable ones. They are ready?
    2. 0
      7 October 2022 09: 23
      They don't know how to speak, but they don't want to. We'll have to admit that under their wise guidance they again piled into their pants and shout loudly from whom such a stench
  20. +7
    5 October 2022 17: 24
    Kartopolov was the same cog from the "show everything in the best possible way" system, and he himself liked to watch everything in pink glasses and put them on for others ...
    1. 0
      6 October 2022 10: 43
      Moreover, he never swam against the current and did not say to his boss: "let's tell the truth to people." Decent generals do not open their mouths when leaving the ranks, but calmly write memoirs and meet people.
  21. ZoV
    0
    5 October 2022 17: 27
    All border villages of the Belgorod region are practically destroyed. We learn this from anyone - from governors and military correspondents,

    A bold statement and terrible .. Is it really true? After all, everything is very serious, such a statement to the whole country
  22. +3
    5 October 2022 17: 28
    In the future, citizens may simply lose confidence in the leadership, and in fact, one of the bets made by Russia's opponents is on this.

    In fact, this perspective is already ceasing to be a prospect ...
    1. 0
      7 October 2022 09: 25
      Well yes, it's been 10 years since it's run
  23. for
    +1
    5 October 2022 17: 30
    Here in VO, I will not point a finger (a finger is not enough) they very much supported this lie.
    "Congratulations" to the chief truth teller, Gaspodin Kadyrov, on being awarded the rank of Colonel General.

    Frame: Telegram channel "Kadyrov_95"
  24. +3
    5 October 2022 17: 30
    But for some reason, the enemy not only does not run out of tanks and armored personnel carriers, their number is sufficient to carry out counteroffensives on various sectors of the front.

    I did not expect exactly such a question from a general, although a retired one. At least someone, but he must know where the tanks and everything else come from. Yes, and living power too.
  25. +9
    5 October 2022 17: 33
    If you don't like lies, start with yourself. The daughter is a shareholder of Brassovsky Mashzavod LLC - including, develop and manufacture equipment for special fortifications (MO contractor).
    Tell me also how professional you were in your position as the chief political officer of the Moscow Region, since the double basses are "five hundred".
    Better yet, take off your parliamentary immunity before you say - "MO is lying."
    Rotten. And in Syria, the "nameless" Palmyra was taken for the second time under him. More precisely, in spite of - the rednecks took away the equipment.
  26. -1
    5 October 2022 17: 34
    Change feed incl. official information, of course, is necessary.
    Exactly the same as toughening the punishment for spreading false/unverified information by bloggers and military bloggers.
    And, also, for the publication of "extra" information that the enemy can use.
    By the way, one of them expressed not a bad idea that we need a single center for coordinating the work of military correspondents.

    On the other hand, Kartapolov, in my opinion, does not perceive reality quite adequately.
    So, about a year ago, the general said: “What is happening now in Ukraine is not the Ukrainian people, it is a bunch of politicians who came to power by chance and work off the money for which they came to this power. These politicians cannot be identified with the Ukrainian the people."
    Yah? so by chance? Did General Kartapolov communicate a lot with Ukrainians? I would go out to the information field, social networks, and talk.
    I read a joke somewhere that people (apparently about Russians) are divided into those who have already talked with those who consider themselves "Ukrainian" and the rest ...
  27. +4
    5 October 2022 17: 38
    How can people know the truth? Dedicated to the Office of the Press Service and Information of the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation ...
  28. +9
    5 October 2022 17: 43
    "We must stop lying!" - repeated like a mantra, first Simonyan, now Kartapolov. So stop it! Turn to Volodin, who promised not to exchange the Nazis from Azov. Refer to Peskov, who stated that the issue of mobilization is not being considered. Turn to Putin, who said that there were no plans to call up reservists.
  29. +5
    5 October 2022 17: 43
    Do not lie, please lie. The chosen system is capitalism where lying = success. In war, truth dies first. So you have to lie in the square ...
  30. +3
    5 October 2022 17: 44
    It should be read like this: Stop lying, anyway, no one believes us anymore, only we are taking time away from advertising! fellow
  31. +9
    5 October 2022 17: 45
    Something all this looks like a "cunning plan" you know who. Either for 7 months everyone was "shut up" under the threat of reprisals for "discrediting the Russian army", and then suddenly Putin's favorites Kadyrov and Prigozhin "talked", followed by highly paid propagandists on Russian TV, everyone criticizes the actions of Russian commanders, Simonyan urges not to lie, Skabeeva openly says that the Russian army is fleeing.
    Something is wrong here .
    1. 0
      5 October 2022 18: 43
      maybe they are preparing the masses for a demonstrative flogging of the Moscow Region, and for the draining of some high figures, and maybe for more serious changes in the RF Armed Forces, although I very much doubt that anyone will sit down, or someone will be demoted, even when Rust landed his plane on Red Square, removed only the shooters
      1. 0
        6 October 2022 15: 15
        Vitaly161 (Vitaly)
        ... they are preparing the masses for a demonstrative flogging of the Moscow Region, and for the draining of some high figures, and maybe for more serious changes in the RF Armed Forces ...


        It's time to clean up in all structures. Hold accountable, expel, etc.
        Only then will the country be cleansed of pests, parasites, spies and breathe freely.
        And this applies to absolutely all areas of activity in the country! And the courts, prosecutors, investigative committees, law enforcement and security agencies, the Federal Penitentiary Service, the Federal Bailiff Service, etc.
  32. +9
    5 October 2022 17: 47
    I listened to Kartapolov live today... but, damn it, it all sounded very unconvincing! He did not answer a single specific question from Solovyov. Only beaten clichés and clichés.
    Solovyov asks him "When at last?..." - he replies: "We need to be strong..."
    Solovyov asks him: "What measures?..." - he replies: "It's time to stop living each on his own, we must unite..."
    Solovyov asks him: "So how exactly?..." - he answers: "It's time for us to remember the statutes and act in accordance with them.
    He said NOTHING!
    1. Alf
      0
      5 October 2022 18: 34
      Quote: Peter_Koldunov
      Solovyov asks him: "So how exactly?..." - he answers: "It's time for us to remember the statutes and act in accordance with them.

      He gave a clear and precise answer - We must fight as it should be.
    2. +1
      5 October 2022 19: 51
      Always, it's easy to criticize, and especially when you have to make fun of it.
      I'm rural and I'm closer to ours than foreign "PR"
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  34. +4
    5 October 2022 17: 48
    A month ago, such statements by commentators on VO were covered with a "fur coat" of minuses. Now, little by little, the understanding is coming that one-sided victorious reports from the Defense Ministry do more harm than good, hiding the real situation does not help to rectify the situation, but rather angers the people. Information resources are not limited to only 1 and 2 TV channels, where everything is always excellent, and Konashenkov again defeated everyone.
    1. +3
      5 October 2022 18: 37
      You are in vain ... there is a balance here between waving a saber with a cheer and those who consider war to be a serious matter, all in an adult way.
  35. +1
    5 October 2022 17: 49
    General Konashenkov only voices information about the course of the NWO. But he also has bosses, there is an information processing department. Who is standing over this, who is giving the go-ahead to this general to publish dozens, hundreds of destroyed tanks, destroyed aircraft, and so on? And in numbers - always zeros at the end. Yes, the withdrawal of troops is interpreted as taking more advantageous positions. And why was the previous position unprofitable? Why then was it necessary to take this position?
  36. 0
    5 October 2022 17: 50
    As one great comedian said - history is not the science from which if you throw out all the lies, then only the truth remains. There may be nothing at all. It's exactly the same thing here...
  37. +1
    5 October 2022 17: 53
    Quote: Mavrikiy
    Well, the fact that he wore trousers with lompas does not make him an unambiguously honest and decent person.

    Personally familiar, there are facts about his dishonesty and dishonesty? Justify. After all, you are also a general, though sofa troops and, probably, you are not even close to the problems that this person is dealing with. It is unworthy to scoff indiscriminately ..
  38. +2
    5 October 2022 17: 53
    Quote: Quote Lavrov
    Will they go for it?

    "STOP LYING" can be said differently--TELL THE TRUTH! And since the truth is sealed with seven seals, either remain silent or lie. Otherwise it doesn’t work, an article of the Criminal Code for disclosure. hi
  39. +1
    5 October 2022 17: 56
    Actually, after the first two weeks, they would say that the infection of Nazism has penetrated into all the pores of the state and the army of Ukraine, and the disbandment and arrest of the National Battalions is indispensable. The level of negotiability of the government of Ukraine is zero. So you have to burn everything properly. But not these ones, everything is going according to plan, we are regrouping. The government of Ukraine should immediately be declared insignificant, afraid of its own national battalions.
    As if we are afraid to offend the young lady with suspicions, instead of directly saying that she is a ... boat
  40. 0
    5 October 2022 17: 58
    Judging by the fact that they began to speak openly about the problems of the NMD, personnel changes are coming in the leadership of the RF Ministry of Defense
    1. -1
      7 October 2022 09: 27
      "Personnel changes are coming in the leadership of the RF Ministry of Defense"
      oops, and Kadyrov is already a colonel general. someone jumped in at the right time
  41. +3
    5 October 2022 17: 58
    konaSCHENKOVshina is a mediocre parody of Goebbelsism.
    This evasi = general - to be demoted to the rank and file and the shooter of the non-forward with his whole gang of mediocre sons-nephews from his stupid office of parasites at the Moscow Region
  42. +2
    5 October 2022 18: 00
    Lies and incomplete information are different things. Why catch up with horror and fully voice the real situation, sow panic to the delight of the Nazis.
    1. +1
      5 October 2022 18: 17
      Quote: Alex 777
      Lies and incomplete information are different things. Why catch up with horror and fully voice the real situation, sow panic to the delight of the Nazis.

      For the simple reason that when people see that they are constantly and shamelessly lied to here, they are hushed up, then where do they go for information? If you do not guess, then to the opposite side. And there, only with explanations of enemy propaganda, they get a "full panama hat" and panic and everything that you do not want OUR people to receive. I hope I have explained clearly. hi
      1. 0
        5 October 2022 22: 36
        Yes, I noticed this fact. Everyone says the same thing like a carbon copy, such as why they attacked another country, and so on. Now, if they attacked us, then I would hoo, show everyone, go to the army and defeat everyone!
        And I hear it from different people. But the meaning of their speeches is the same. Zipso works as it should, apparently.
        Even in the cart, in the VO group, and in other groups, just look at the likes. Full of crested bots.
        In contact, so they generally occupied everything.
    2. 0
      6 October 2022 07: 10
      Perhaps your answer IS THE ANSWER: //Falsehood and incomplete information are two different things.//
      All other comments (not all) are just a "discussion" with opposing opinions
  43. +5
    5 October 2022 18: 01
    All border villages of the Belgorod region are practically destroyed.

    Yes, he himself, it seems, is still the liar.
  44. +5
    5 October 2022 18: 03
    Does anyone else believe the words and promises of the authorities???
    The authorities lie shamelessly. One does not have to look far for examples.
    About Peskov, even Putin said "it brings all sorts of snowstorms" ...
  45. +4
    5 October 2022 18: 05
    Apparently some changes are coming in the Ministry of Defense. Kartapolov in this case, it seems to me, is just a "talking head", the one through whom the opinion prevailing today from the authorities is voiced. It is surprising that this happened now, and not after the disaster in the Kharkov direction.
  46. 0
    5 October 2022 18: 06
    If you tell the whole truth, then you don’t know what will happen
    1. 0
      6 October 2022 22: 50
      If you tell the whole truth, then you don’t know what will happen
      It is known what will happen. The next question will be who is to blame for this and what punishment they suffered. And then, as they say, they can go out on themselves. After all, it turns out that those who lied are just to blame for why they had to lie.
  47. +1
    5 October 2022 18: 07
    He is 1000 times right.
    The Soviet Information Bureau was a little better.
    Apparently, they remembered Stalin's words: "behind the fake parade of well-being, do not see problems. The path to disaster"
    We started from the 22nd congress: "everything is good with us, but bad" is high in the mountains, but not in our area "(c) we continue like this.
    Interestingly, but in Kyiv they also inform you this way?
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  49. +4
    5 October 2022 18: 18
    In the light of the words of General Kartapolov, I recommend watching the video: K. Sivkov: Is Abramovich in command of the country? But, judging by his tone, it is felt that the military is barely holding back from "pushing" some people in the Kremlin offices.
  50. -4
    5 October 2022 18: 18
    Do you want the truth? And so without fail with details on each kilometer of the front? And what a joy it will be from the fact that after that some well-groomed presenter, smearing snot, will tell from each TV with a breath how bad everything is, what mediocre generals, etc. Something like this happened in the 1st Chechen campaign. What matters is the end result. And the number of sobs does not affect the result.
    1. +1
      5 October 2022 18: 41
      Look at what luminaries of literature and journalism were MILITARY correspondents in the Great Patriotic War.
      Then the certified, but in the majority of mediocre and gray officers = journalists for gray newspapers for decades were stamped by the Lvov paramilitary political institution. After 1991, the Military Institute took over from him.
      So where are his pets? Even Koneshchenkov even graduated from a normal military school, and the reports are from all "hot spots" are completely civilian
  51. +4
    5 October 2022 18: 31
    Has the most truthful person been found in the State Duma? Probably a crystal clear, honest and brave person, since he calls to stop lying about CO. We look forward to his live reports from the front lines! Let all the liars out of spite, show with weapons in their hands what really happens during a special operation. Let's wish him good luck!
  52. +4
    5 October 2022 18: 35
    Marshal Konashenkov said that today hundreds of tanks and eleven planes were shot down and that’s enough for us.
  53. 0
    5 October 2022 18: 41
    Well, if they lied with impunity and made empty promises for 20 years (from free Wi-Fi in all transport and “names of companies only in Russian letters” to “there will be no mobilization”), then why can’t it be done now?
    It is possible and even necessary. Otherwise the article.

    If someone unwanted would say about “All the border villages of the Belgorod region are practically destroyed” - that’s it, time.
    IMHO, to put it simply - everything that is not through the Ministry of Defense of the RF Armed Forces is a possible article and deadline. And for your own people - at least hang a Nazi symbol across the entire width of the page (saw it on the "hurray site")
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  55. +1
    5 October 2022 18: 44
    I’ll quote Evstafiev: “All current difficulties are the result of postponed, much overripe decisions” (c)
  56. -1
    5 October 2022 18: 48
    Now, if mobilization had started immediately with the start of the special operation seven months ago, then by this time we would have had reserves already trained for six months. Was it really a secret to our leadership that Ukraine could mobilize and train many more of its reservists? In general, these 300 thousand must be understood again will not save, the soldiers need to rest, here a million is needed so that some will fight, while others will rest and gain strength in order to win. Isn't this clear, otherwise this will continue to happen?
  57. -1
    5 October 2022 18: 51
    “The authorities don’t even tell part of the truth” - well, that’s nonsense! The authorities speak some of the truth, but maybe less than we would like. We will never know the whole truth. But we know that part of the truth that should be very unpleasant for us, as citizens of Russia, but we pretend that we don’t know...
    This truth is that we do not have a civil society, but a society of consumers. If the percentage of volunteers in other regions was equal to at least a tenth of that in Ichkeria (Chechnya), then no mobilization would be needed, and everyone would be held in place and would advance far!
    And retired generals sometimes also promote themselves, so if a retired general said something, it is not always the ultimate truth.
    Well, the author’s complaint about the destroyed border villages is far from the most critical consequence of the same shortage of personnel. Relocating and providing jobs and wages to the residents of these villages is not the most expensive undertaking.
    Well, why is it a consumer society, why did the USSR collapse, why did they rush to the West without looking back, and now they have to turn sharply... This truth needs to be told, but it is also very unpleasant not only for the authorities.
  58. +1
    5 October 2022 19: 12
    Well, the Ukrainian Armed Forces’ planes have all been shot down, and yet they keep getting bigger, the Ukrainian Armed Forces’ tanks are multiplying. And we have the most accurate superweapon with which we retreat. And there was no need for mobilization, but it was announced unexpectedly. Since the time of Brezhnev, we have learned to report on super-achievements that are only in the speaker’s imagination and on paper. And then the people, when they find out the true state of affairs, feel deceived, devastated, and confused. And we don’t believe it anymore. And I'm not just speaking for myself. Go out on the street and ask anyone if they trust the authorities. And anyone will say no
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    1. 0
      6 October 2022 22: 57
      When they approach Moscow, they will burn it, like in 1812, and then we will begin??
      Is it possible without approaches? Should we just burn Moscow down and start? The rest of the country has nothing to do with it, since everything depends on Moscow.
  61. +2
    5 October 2022 19: 42
    Quote: Streck
    Kartopolov is the only person among those who not only has information, but also understands that it is lies, or the Kremlin’s concealment of the truth, that gives rise to a lot of rumors]

    ..... yes, he is Kartapolov ..... In the summer he broadcast that the Russian Armed Forces are fighting so skillfully that they have no losses. , and therefore the Moscow Region does not report on them ..... in general, an honest person ....

    Yes, this worthy member of United Russia a couple of weeks ago confidently, with a slight ironic smile, answered in a TV interview that State Duma deputies and members of the Federation Council are also subject to mobilization. And the law directly states that they have a reservation! winked
  62. 0
    5 October 2022 19: 52
    Well, let him organize a parliamentary investigation into the activities of the Moscow Region and create a group of deputies for this purpose. And then he will share the results with voters. Otherwise, we have learned to talk and make things worse.
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  64. 0
    5 October 2022 21: 29
    This is exactly what I and many others write about here every day, and they pour slop on us, saying that we are whiners and sleepers. And they also scare me with an article about discrimination against the authorities and the army! This is despite the fact that the authorities themselves and the military command of the army, with their lies, deception, unpreparedness of the army for combat operations and bestial attitude towards the mobilized, discriminate themselves in the eyes of Russian citizens!
  65. -1
    5 October 2022 21: 30
    Everyone is already talking - the authorities, unfortunately, are silent ((
  66. 0
    5 October 2022 21: 32
    Quote: Mavrikiy
    Kartapolov is a general and there is no reason not to trust his words.
    Well, the fact that he wore trousers with lompas does not make him an unambiguously honest and decent person. fool Most likely a liberalist who has climbed into the warm chair of the chairman of the State Duma Committee on Defense.
    As the on the air of "Soloviev Live" head of the Duma Committee on defense, reports of the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation
    request There was no other garbage resource for the "general". request
    Deputy Minister of Defense of the Russian Federation - Head of the Main Military-Political Directorate of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation (July 30, 2018 - October 5, 2021),
    In 2022, there would definitely be a candidate for relegation. angry
    From December 19, 2016 to March 2017 - Commander of the Russian group of troops in the Syrian Arab Republic.
    Taxied for 3 months and apparently taxied ..... just flew out.

    Well, it’s not a matter of changing everyone on your own.
  67. 0
    5 October 2022 21: 46
    It’s one thing now, there are also contract soldiers, who are still quite small and are used to it. What will happen when 300K realize where they were thrown and how ineptly they are being used? But these forces are not enough and another 300K will be needed. Sooner or later they will return home and ask questions to the authorities, and many will support them.
  68. +1
    5 October 2022 22: 23
    General Konashenkov laughed quietly on the sidelines somewhere)
  69. 0
    5 October 2022 23: 20
    How many times has this been said already!? But better late than never.
  70. +2
    5 October 2022 23: 33
    A strange position from a whole general, doesn’t he understand that not a single state, at all times, will agree to this?
    And given the fact that we did not show up for the information war, and all the Western media are against us, what can we count on?
    I don’t believe that a military man can be so infantile
  71. 0
    6 October 2022 02: 24
    Why were you silent for seven months? Was something not yet obvious to the general at that time? Into the furnace of everyone, tear off their shoulder straps and imprison them. Massively! They created a feeding trough for themselves by undermining the defense capability of the state! All who is involved in this directly or indirectly, judge!!!
    1. PC
      +1
      6 October 2022 11: 57
      It’s okay that I was silent for seven months. Why was Kartapolov silent, being the Deputy Minister of Defense and the head of Glavpur?
  72. +1
    6 October 2022 02: 59
    General, chairman of the State Duma committee - and "doesn't understand why they say that they destroy tanks, but they have them" ??? .. Does he not know that weapons for the Armed Forces of Ukraine are collected from all countries of the former Warsaw Pact, and even in Africa?... He doesn’t know that the 4th wave of mobilization has already passed in Ukraine, and there are many more manpower there than we have?... While they were taking Mariupol, they liberated the LPR, occupied the Kherson region, and almost all of Zaporozhye - he was silent :(. And as soon as the counter-offensive of the Armed Forces of Ukraine happened (by the way, God knows what success, and with huge losses) - he suddenly became preoccupied with "poor notification of the people, due to which credit of trust in the authorities will be lost "...
    I think it's just PR. Like: "Look, good people - I'm the very representative of the people in power that you need! Vote for me in the next elections!"...
  73. +3
    6 October 2022 03: 07
    I suddenly “received the light” after the Kharkov failure!!! There are a bit too many generals in our Duma; organize a platoon of them in the Northern Military District and let them work off the grub.
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  75. 0
    6 October 2022 07: 07
    Quote: Konnick
    And what else is a "fortified" mouth?

    there is a company stronghold. It’s just that “fortifications” were said by a man, not a military man. It’s okay. What’s scary is that there’s a platoon per company. Sometimes it’s useful for personnel to re-read the BUSV. Although...
  76. +1
    6 October 2022 07: 58
    Military personnel around the world are known for boasting about enemy losses and downplaying their own losses. In fact, the UkroVVS was “destroyed” in the second week of the Northern Military District, but we are still shooting down planes and helicopters EVERY day. “We have an overwhelming superiority in artillery and ammunition”; every “unexpected attack” by Ukrainians is accompanied by touching concern for the lives of the soldiers and forced regrouping under hurricane fire from Ukrainian artillery. What about our air defense? The number of her achievements, in my opinion, eclipses even the “achievements” of transferring absolutely serviceable equipment to the Ukrainians with a lot of ammunition.
    But “everything is going according to plan”...
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  78. 0
    6 October 2022 10: 31
    They lie because they are not ready, they do not know how, they are not trained, they are not accustomed, they do not want to. Is there anyone to replace them?
  79. +1
    6 October 2022 11: 16
    Today the committee made a request to the prosecutor about the allocated funds for equipment... Where did they go and why. Very interesting answer...
    1. PC
      +1
      6 October 2022 11: 54
      Why didn’t Kartapolov ask for a prosecutor for the position of deputy minister?
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    1. -1
      6 October 2022 14: 12
      “brotherly” is a regurgitation of CPSU propaganda hammered down over 70 years. Now, having wide access to history, it is quite clear that brotherhood is situational! and on the one hand
    2. 0
      6 October 2022 17: 18
      This is the work of arrogant Saxons and Trotskyists
  84. 0
    6 October 2022 14: 56
    We must honestly admit that the command of the RF Armed Forces is very weak in the fight against Bandera’s shelling of populated areas in Russia. It’s a pity to look every day at the death of peaceful people killed by Bandera’s supporters! The command of the RF Armed Forces itself turns a blind eye to the shelling of Bandera’s populated areas in Russia, strategic objects such as the Zaporozhye Nuclear Power Plant, and the Russians turn a blind eye to this. There is information from the command of the RF Armed Forces about the suppression of Bandera’s sources of shelling, and the shelling continues every day, and every day civilians are killed in cities and villages, Zaporizhzhya NPPs and hydroelectric power stations are destroyed. The General Staff of the RF Armed Forces allows the Armed Forces of Ukraine to calmly prepare military operations of the Armed Forces of Ukraine to organize numerous attacks to capture populated areas of Zaporozhye, Kherson region, DPR and LPR. At the beginning of the Northern Military District, the concentration of all large military formations of the Armed Forces of Ukraine was quickly destroyed by the forces of the Aerospace Forces, missile forces and artillery. Now the Bandera troops are allowed to freely concentrate troops in large numbers and carry out military operations to capture populated areas of Zaporozhye, Kherson region, DPR and LPR, almost without hindrance.
  85. +1
    6 October 2022 15: 29
    but he doesn’t lie and hasn’t lied? general political officer (as the head of the State Duma Committee on Defense, at one time he lied about the size of the indexation of military pensions, what did he do to remove the reduction coefficients? What did he do in the adoption of the Decree on partial mobilization, without providing for the accompanying measures in the same part of the provision mobilized, selection criteria, medical examinations? He personally looked at the conditions in which the mobilized live and undergo training? The mobilized equip themselves with what is necessary, according to the list recommended by the military registration and enlistment offices. On September 20, he spoke on the Central Television (I don’t remember exactly, but in my opinion it was 60 minutes in the program) that there will be no mobilization, and the Decree has already been signed on 21. He is not a combat general, but a “parquet” general.
  86. 0
    6 October 2022 16: 18
    People, did no one remember the statement of this “general” 3 months ago???? https://mk-ru.turbopages.org/turbo/mk.ru/s/politics/2022/06/01/kartapolov-zayavil-ob-otsutstvii-poter-rossiyskikh-voennykh-v-khode-specoperacii.html
  87. 0
    6 October 2022 19: 22
    The general is right. The authorities have nothing good to say. So they keep silent about the real state of affairs. But you still can’t hide the sewing in the bag. In the age of the Internet, it is impossible to hide anything. But at the same time, people lose trust in their authorities. There is also no particular trust in all these Ministry of Defense reports voiced by Konashenkov. According to them, it turns out that our army has already destroyed all the tanks, planes, and helicopters of the Ukrainian Armed Forces two or three times, along with those supplied to them by Poland and other countries of Eastern Europe. But the planes and helicopters of the Nazis are still flying and for some reason there are more tanks in the directions of their attacks than ours. As long as the command and authorities lie to us, the chaos in the army and the country will not go away. And chaos and chaos will definitely not help us win.
  88. -1
    6 October 2022 19: 35
    I expected in the near future an income declaration on the income of all those who are so hot on the First Broadcast. Approximately the grandson of Molotov, Leonkov, Sheinin, Ostashko, this political scientist from the mirror (;D, and there are quite a few of them). Come on, tell me what you do for a living.
  89. 0
    7 October 2022 01: 14
    Author - As Kartapolov noted, even in 1941, during the Great Patriotic War, the Sovinformburo openly reported retreats in certain directions. People understood the danger of what was happening and prepared for a variety of developments.

    Many people learned about the surrender of Kharkov only when it was liberated again.
  90. 0
    7 October 2022 04: 44
    Quote: Alla Nechugovskaya
    You don’t even know what to believe anymore.

    You have to trust your eyes and other senses. There is a lot of information in the media, especially on TV, on the basis of which you can draw conclusions. Before the Northern Military District, populated areas of the Russian Federation were not shelled, now people are shelled and people are dying. They withdrew troops from the territory of the Kiev, Sumy and Chernigov regions as a “good gesture”, leaving previously liberated territories, where Russian citizens who voted for the entry of the liberated territories into the Russian Federation are shot and if this “liberation” goes in the opposite direction, then there is no confidence that our high command and the Armed Forces will be able to protect citizens of the Russian Federation already on the territory of their country, problems of mobilization, etc. All this is freely available, analyze and draw conclusions.
  91. 0
    7 October 2022 06: 17
    Revolutionary keep step!
    The restless enemy does not sleep!
    Comrade, hold the rifle, don't be afraid!
    Let's fire a bullet at Holy Russia -

    In the condo,
    To the hut
    To the thicket!

    Eh, eh, no cross!

    How did our guys go?
    Serve in the Red Army
    Serve in the Red Army
    Lay down your head!

    Oh you, grief-bitter,
    Sweet life!
    torn coat,
    Austrian gun!
  92. 0
    7 October 2022 09: 43
    Judging by the comments, the public is beginning to see the light...