Assault groups of PMC "Wagner" occupied the territory of one of the factories in Artyomovsk

Units of the allied forces near Artemovsk (Bakhmut) are increasing their presence, assault groups are already fixed on the southern outskirts of the city. This was reported the day before.

According to available information, yesterday units of PMC "Wagner" recaptured the territory of a waste sorting plant in the industrial zone of the city from the Armed Forces of Ukraine. Previously, a mortar battery worked on our territory from the plant, we managed to capture an ammunition depot and Polish silent LMP mortars.

At the same time, the "musicians" themselves declare that the enemy has not retreated anywhere from the city, but rather is strengthening his positions, including on the southern outskirts near the gas pumping station. Inside the city is full of heavy equipment, the Armed Forces of Ukraine are preparing to fight the allied forces. Our troops have entrenched themselves in the area of ​​the former glass factory and salt mine, are conducting reconnaissance in force, clearing forest plantations from Teroboronists. They say that everyone is alive and well, the mood is excellent.

It is worth noting that not only the Wagner PMC is fighting in this direction, but also the Akhmat special forces and units of the 2nd Corps of the NM of the LPR, it’s just that the “musicians” are constantly on hearing, the rest are in the shadows.

According to unofficial data, units of the 53rd mechanized brigade of the Armed Forces of Ukraine retreated deep into the city, having lost more than half of its personnel over the past month. Also in the city, units of the 93rd Kholodny Yar brigade were deployed, reinforced by the defense system. The 54th and 92nd mechanized brigades of the Armed Forces of Ukraine with M777 howitzers are being transferred to the outskirts of the city, our artillery is working on them, making it difficult to pull up reserves.

It is reported that the units of the Armed Forces of Ukraine defending the city already have plans to retreat in the event that Artemovsk is occupied by the Russian army.

Comments

[NSV]

An interesting presentation .. Salt mine ... there have never been salt mines in Artemovsk, alabaster yes. Former glass mine, it's practically the center of the city, literally 4 stops from the central square.

[isv000]

Quote: NSV

An interesting presentation .. Salt mine ... there have never been salt mines in Artemovsk, alabaster yes. Former glass mine, it's practically the center of the city, literally 4 stops from the central square.

Artemovskoye deposit on the outskirts of Bakhmut (Artemovsk) - that is, a salt mine.

[NSV]

This is a generalized name, and the mine of the Artemsol association itself is located in Soledar, twenty kilometers from Artemovsk. Although you may be right, in the 19th century on Stupki, this is the outskirts of Artemovsk, the Dutch built a salt mine, but nothing has been left of it for a long time. Just Photo...

[Lech from Android.]

Wagner musicians are very capable guys ... but still I think they should be used more productively than just as attack aircraft ... for example, behind enemy lines as saboteurs.
The qualifications of these guys allow us to entrust them with interesting and ambitious tasks.

[Asad]

Of course, musicians have divisions of specialists. But the main composition of attack aircraft, and their losses are higher than in the Armed Forces.

[Lech from Android.]

Wagnerians are like a surgical scalpel and not an ax ... so I wonder why the command decided to use this tool of war in a different capacity.

[cold wind]

Quote: Lech from Android.

Wagnerians are like a surgical scalpel and not an ax ... so I wonder why the command decided to use this tool of war in a different capacity.

This offensive is not senseless, but harmful. There are concentrated large forces that are needed in other areas, especially artillery.
They need to be transferred to the training of those called. There were many times more benefits and work according to their profile.

[Nickelium]

Well, it’s just they that fetter additional enemy forces, it’s bad that there is no analogue of Wagner in other directions. Could have joked in the rear of the advancing enemy.

[Hitriy Zhuk]

To train like an "orchestra" of mobilizers?
It is good to.
But.
They seem to work very hard there.
Can you imagine what howl will go?

[impostor]

Wagnerians are like a surgical scalpel and not an ax ...

There are both scalpels and no less sharp pig cutters, but they most likely do not have white gloves. Have you often heard of musicians taking khinzirs prisoner? Yes, once some major and FSE ... there are no more messages ...

[Lech from Android.]

Wagnerians could tell a lot of interesting things ... but alas ... that time has not come yet.

[impostor]

the time has not yet come

Will not come. In their field, they are masters in the majority, but there are no storytellers, you will not find their stories, including because they were not there for a long time, that is, they were ... but no matter how they were

[Dart2027]

Quote: Lech from Android.

Wagnerians could tell a lot of interesting things

Book by Marat Gabidullin "In the same river twice".
https://www.litres.ru/marat-fayzrahmanovic/v-odnu-reku-dvazhdy-siriyskaya-voyna-glazami-russkogo/

[Catfish]

therefore, I am surprised why the command decided to use this instrument of war in a different capacity.

So there is simply no way out. Everything is not as it should be and not vice versa.

Assault groups of PMC "Wagner" occupied the territory of one of the factories

Soon they will begin to report on "grand" battles for the "Forester's Hut", as in that joke.

[igoist]

it's not a scalpel or even an ax, it's paving stones, otherwise, they wouldn't recruit convicts into the Wagner on a voluntary-compulsory basis

[Maks winter]

Quote: ASAD

Of course, musicians have divisions of specialists. But the main composition of attack aircraft, and their losses are higher than in the Armed Forces.

do not carry nonsense, if not in the subject, and if you are so sure of your words, link to their ,, loss ,,?

[Nickelium]

They themselves said that in urban conditions it is more convenient for them to fight.

[Maks winter]

certainly, but probably this article does not reveal the true purpose of using the Wagner group

[tihon4uk]

We beat off one street in a week, a dozen villages in a day. So we will quickly lose the war. Although it seems that they have already lost.

[Asad]

It's too early to fall into despair, what a pessimist I am, and then I'm sure that everything will work out.

[Lech from Android.]

So we will quickly lose the war. Although it seems that they have already lost.

Why do you think so?
Justify in more detail ... for example, I don’t think so.

[Asad]

I will support, if the leaders do not merge, then by spring we will drive the enemy

[tihon4uk]

Why? Have you ever wondered where our vaunted air defense is, where is our legendary electronic warfare that jams everything and everything, where is our aviation? Every day it seems to me more and more that the losses of our army that the enemy voices (45 thousand killed) are not so far from the truth. Our army is destroyed, that's why I have such thoughts.

[Hitriy Zhuk]

Apparently it says so in the manual.
It's high time to at least enter flags by IP (and block proxy servers).

[Thrifty]

And here there is a lack of aviation! The accumulation of equipment, an air strike with heavy bombs on it is necessary! Where is our military aviation? ??

[novel66]

with unclosed BUKs and S-300s, it makes no sense to send for slaughter, and aviation will soon end

[Sebostyuan]

If you have available from the tools: FABs and NURSs, then yes. And if you try to use LMUR helicopters more often, and Gliding ammunition from planes, then air defense will not reach. It will need to be brought to the front line, which makes it vulnerable to long-range MLRS. The question is in the system and methods of application.

[Hitriy Zhuk]

And those missiles that fly to radars like moths to fire will not help from air defense?

[novel66]

induce American radars from AWACS and other things from the territories of other countries. we are not shooting at them yet (and we are unlikely to be)

[Hitriy Zhuk]

There is a solution.
We look at the weather (where it blows), how it blows where it is necessary - such a rocket flies away attached to the airship / balloon.
Then after H hours it starts.

And let them prove it later.

[Lech from Android.]

Quote: tihon4uk

Our army is destroyed, that's why I have such thoughts.

Destroyed?
Bring evidence... your words and thoughts alone are not enough to think so.
Is it possible that our 20th army crumbled and was captured ... is it really that the Wagnerites are no longer there ... where did 300 thousand of our mobiles go ... ahhh ... everything is gone for us ... tomorrow Zelensky will ride Abrams around Moscow.
I read the comments of alarmists on VO and laugh ... well, you really can’t cry like a child.

[tihon4uk]

I am not an alarmist, but the fact that our army has been retreating for a month now brings up sad thoughts. I'll be glad if I'm wrong.

[skeptick2]

You can't be like an ostrich, that's what you can't. If you stick your head in the sand endlessly, then you can lose it. You can't believe every word Konashenkov says. You can’t knock down whitewash from the ceiling with hats for no reason.
What is allowed?
You can at least once in your life look the truth in the eye and try at least once to think on your own, without the help of a TV.
Try to understand where, at what stage we were beaten outright, like boys.
To understand that the motivation of the Armed Forces of Ukraine is orders of magnitude higher than that of our mobs. For if we discard politics and all ideological chatter, then only one bare essence remains - the Armed Forces of Ukraine are simply forced to defend their homes, their families and their land. And what is the motivation of our guys? Musicians do not count, they fight for money and only for money, no matter who says what. What about mobs? Who were dragged out by the scruff of their families and thrown to no one knows where? What do they have? Denazification? Yes, this very denazification, no one can really pronounce it, let alone explain it.
That's why it's useless to wait for the "Army of Wenck". These 300 thousand will not solve anything. And the next 300 thousand won't solve anything either.
Because there is no idea. There is no point. It was in 1941-1945, when the Soviet people defended their land. What about today?
I don’t know... I don’t see any gap at all... You can throw minuses at me or ban me. But what will it change? I just compared today's map of hostilities in the Kherson region with four days ago. After all, this is a disaster ... What's next? ..

[Lech from Android.]

Quote from: skeptick2

I just compared today's map of hostilities in the Kherson region with four days ago. After all, this is a disaster ... What's next? ..

I have been looking at the dynamics of hostilities since February 24 ... and even then I said that the war with the Ukronazis would be long ... with varying success ... so you didn’t tell me anything new.

[Dmitry Karabanov]

I am by no means a military professional - but what prevents us from acting like the United States, i.e. just turn this fortified area, along with a lot of equipment and fascists, into smoking ruins? It seems like we have stockpiled FABs for three wars since Soviet times? In the case of carpet bombing, accuracy is not needed at all, you can work from high altitudes and save our aircraft and "musicians? What's stopping you?

[Petr_Koldunov]

Quote: Dmitry Karabanov

what prevents us from acting like the United States, i.e. just turn this fortified area, along with a lot of equipment and fascists, into smoking ruins? It seems like we have stockpiled FABs for three wars since Soviet times?

There is no understanding why this is not being done - very many do not, like you. Moreover, even Solovyov, who always sings along with the "policy of the party" - has already lost his voice, asking why the most elementary things for military operations are not being done.

[nedgen]

Quote: Dmitry Karabanov

I am by no means a military professional - but what prevents us from acting like the United States, i.e. just turn this fortified area, along with a lot of equipment and fascists, into smoking ruins? It seems like we have stockpiled FABs for three wars since Soviet times? In the case of carpet bombing, accuracy is not needed at all, you can work from high altitudes and save our aircraft and "musicians? What's stopping you?

Everything is very simple. Undestroyed air defense of the krajina and information support of the Usovites. All the same, the S-300 and Buk are VERY serious. The problem is that NO ONE purposefully tries to destroy this very air defense. NO REB aircraft at all from the word NO. At one time, the MiG-25RBM was sharpened for this target, but they were written off. And the Russian analogue of the Usovsky E-8 Tu-214R MO purchased WITHOUT a direct data transmission system on the ground, because you see, the system turned out to be more expensive than it was indicated in the contract. Now, in fact, the Tu-214R is castrated. It cannot quickly redirect artillery and aircraft to detected targets. They can, of course, but with a voice. And it's an order of magnitude slower. Actually, we must finally START FIGHTING as it should. those. They will destroy bridges across ALL RIVERS in the rear of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, including the Dnieper ones. Destroy ALL TES or at least all substations. Without them, TES, like HES and AES, are unnecessary. And without electricity, electric trains will stop. And for 5% of diesel locomotives that will remain, you will not be able to transport much. We still need to fill up the Beskydy tunnel. Both old and new. And this is not such a problem despite the air defense. Why the hell are "daggers" needed if not for such strategic purposes. Etc. etc.

[ZoV]

Well done Wagnerians! It’s not for nothing that such a howl stands in the west .. The men are very combative and motivated. Their selection seems to be very serious

[Alex Nevs]

I know, here tsipsoshniks are rummaging around. Tsipsoshnik yes for 30 pieces of silver. For those who returned Crimea, LPR, DPR, Kherson, Zaporozhye territories, I can send you 30 Sreb. Malatese.

[Retvizan 8]

It looks like Artyomovsk will be taken soon.
I hope after that it will be easier to breathe in Donetsk.

[Petr_Koldunov]

That is why in the settlements held by the Nazis - usually "full of heavy equipment" and to reinforce them, several fresh reserve "mechanized brigades" are usually pulled up very quickly?
And why doesn't a single person come to our guys for two weeks, as a result of which, after two weeks of fierce resistance, ours are forced to retreat without waiting for real help?
What is this, a cunning plan?

[Boniface]

It seems that apart from "Wagner" and "Akhmat" no one is doing anything at the front! (Sorry, not my idea)