The Pentagon predicts Russia "major defeat in Kherson"

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The Pentagon predicts Russia "major defeat in Kherson"

The US military is closely monitoring the situation in the southern sector of Russia's special military operation - in the Kherson region. The Pentagon even predicts Russia "a major defeat in Kherson."

According to the American magazine Defense News, such a statement was made by US Assistant Secretary of Defense for International Affairs Celeste Wallander at an event organized by the Center for Strategic and International Studies.





She believes that a series of minor failures of the Russian army in the southern direction can develop into a "major defeat." At the same time, the official believes that the Armed Forces of Ukraine will be able to take comfortable defensive positions on the eve of winter battles, which, Wallander suggests, will be “hot”.

After the defense breakthroughs in the Kherson region, she says, the Ukrainians are ready to win back the main Russian bridgehead across the Dnieper. She believes that such a development of events could force Moscow to abandon plans to take Odessa.

This would be a major defeat for Russia, because it further pushes back Russia's ambitions to capture Odessa

Wallander said.

Now the situation in the Kherson direction remains difficult. This is especially true of the Berislav sector, where yesterday the Ukrainian military seized the village of Dudchany. This is largely due to the superiority of the Armed Forces of Ukraine in the number of personnel and equipment on this segment of the front.
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  1. +24
    4 October 2022 16: 35
    Now the situation in the Kherson direction remains difficult. This is especially true of the Berislav sector, where yesterday the Ukrainian military seized the village of Dudchany. This is largely due to the superiority of the Armed Forces of Ukraine in the number of personnel and equipment on this segment of the front.

    The offensive actions of the Armed Forces of Ukraine are also not unlimited ... let's see how it goes on.
    1. +39
      4 October 2022 16: 50
      So far, everything looks like a fierce sabotage of the authorities by the leadership of the Ministry of Defense and the Russian Guard (as far as I remember, the Zolotov family lived in London, but what happened to Shoigu? Or who is bringing down the front in the Kherson direction and has already failed in Kharkov?
      1. 0
        4 October 2022 18: 37
        Quote: Anchorite
        what happened to Shoigu? Or who is bringing down the front in the Kherson direction and has already failed in the Kharkov one?

        Shoigu is not a wild mustang, you need to look at who has the reins in their hands.
        And kick them. Or drive.
        1. +7
          4 October 2022 19: 04
          It would be a major defeat for Russia

          History does not know the subjunctive moods .... Wishlist (now) not brothers and Zaluzhets are understandable - to pass off what you want as facts! ...
          But chickens are counted in the fall!
          Yes, we harness something for a long time ... But ... "It's not evening yet!"
          As they say - they don't show half the battle to a fool .... Yes
          1. +6
            5 October 2022 07: 06
            Yes, we're pushing something for a long time ...
            Ay! Why don't they throw hats on ukrovoyak?! Where are the "hats" of the "hooray-throwers" who did not listen to the spring-March warnings of the "all-thrower" I. Strelkov-Girkin? And this "all-propagator" I. Strelkov clearly predicted that Russia would not be able to defeat Ukronazism without mobilization. The Russian troops involved in the NMD have clearly not been enough for a long time ...
            Now the situation in the Kherson direction remains difficult. This is especially true of the Berislav sector, where yesterday the Ukrainian military seized the village of Dudchany. This is largely due to the superiority of the Armed Forces of Ukraine in the number of personnel and equipment on this segment of the front.
            1. -1
              5 October 2022 17: 35
              Quote: Sergey Kuzmin
              Why don't they throw hats on ukrovoyak?! Where are the "caps" of "cheers-cap-throwers"

              Information about the capture of Duduchan is incorrect.
      2. -2
        5 October 2022 08: 12
        The Biden family business has much redder lines, here are the failures!
    2. +57
      4 October 2022 16: 51
      As long as they have a functioning infrastructure and flows of everything, as if from a cornucopia, and in the Russian Federation traitors influence the NWO, everything is possible.
      1. AAK
        +8
        4 October 2022 19: 15
        Well, all right, due to the mobilization of dill in terms of people, they are three times superior to our NWO contingent, but this trend "... and in technology" that has been alarming for the last couple of weeks, where does this come from?!!! Already in this matter, the General Staff and the Ministry of Defense have brought the army to the handle?! Well then, I don’t even know what kind of infamy in relation to our "tops" can be assumed?! In what direction is Our Svetoch looking?!!!
        1. -6
          4 October 2022 22: 55
          Quote: AAK
          Well, all right, due to the mobilization of dill in terms of people, they are three times superior to our NWO contingent, but this trend "... and in technology" that has been alarming for the last couple of weeks, where does this come from?!!! Already in this matter, the General Staff and the Ministry of Defense have brought the army to the handle?! Well then, I don’t even know what kind of infamy in relation to our "tops" can be assumed?! In what direction is Our Svetoch looking?!!!

          APU mobilized from 700k. up to 1 million people. + Haven't you noticed that all the conflicts in the rest of the world somehow abruptly subsided? The USA gathered ALL available (and inaccessible) mercenaries from all over the world and pulled them to the outskirts - there are somewhere around 250-500k. hired now. And all this against 200k. our contractors...
          1. +4
            4 October 2022 22: 58
            Sales: I don’t know what GDP thinks (and does it think at all)? But all this is HIS complete failure - HE played too much in politics!
            IMHO
            1. -3
              5 October 2022 15: 42
              Quote: Misha Honest
              I don’t know what GDP thinks (and does it think at all)?

              He has long removed himself (or was removed) from the leadership of the NVO and, in general, military subjects. Back in the spring, when it became clear that all plans for the SVO had failed, a letter was written to him on behalf of the All-Russian Officers' Assembly.
              He replied .
              Shortly.
              "THIS IS NOT IN MY COMPETENCE, CONTACT SHOIG."
              The Supreme Commander-in-Chief retired.
              And his circle of interests includes only Ferry Wheels and museums.
              Or did they remove it?
              In any case, he does not govern the country (this became obvious even with the onset of the "pandemic"), the army too ...
              There is such a character in the film "Iron Man" - "the most terrible villain and terrorist of our time" - Mandarin ... But he turned out to be an ordinary drug addict actor who played the role of a villain in short commercials.
              And I really would not want our reality to be similar to this plot. I would very much like, and as soon as possible, that the Supreme High Command prove both in word and deed that he leads the Country and the Army, that he is able to lead independently and sensibly, and that all this mockery and surrealism is the intrigues of the enemies of our People, who must certainly and it is indicative to suffer the most just and severe punishment.
              But that won't happen, will it?
              It's a pity .
          2. +1
            5 October 2022 14: 20
            yes, the giants should have foreseen this thought...they are chess players, and here it is like this...and the physical liquidation of these thinkers is at stake...and the people have blood, poverty and a lot of bad things.. .yet he foresaw he spoke, the one who said that there would be no mobilization ... simple people understood that we would not pull it ... but everything seemed to him in his own way, and we live cool, and the army is just a brilliance ... not a brilliance, it is so the same as everything around, some postscripts are window dressing and lies
          3. +3
            5 October 2022 18: 09
            Quote: Misha Honest
            Quote: AAK
            Well, all right, due to the mobilization of dill in terms of people, they are three times superior to our NWO contingent, but this trend "... and in technology" that has been alarming for the last couple of weeks, where does this come from?!!! Already in this matter, the General Staff and the Ministry of Defense have brought the army to the handle?! Well then, I don’t even know what kind of infamy in relation to our "tops" can be assumed?! In what direction is Our Svetoch looking?!!!

            APU mobilized from 700k. up to 1 million people. + Haven't you noticed that all the conflicts in the rest of the world somehow abruptly subsided? The USA gathered ALL available (and inaccessible) mercenaries from all over the world and pulled them to the outskirts - there are somewhere around 250-500k. hired now. And all this against 200k. our contractors...


            There is no such amount of fairy tales.
            1. -2
              6 October 2022 01: 08
              Quote from: newtc7
              There is no such amount of fairy tales.

              Tales or not, we are retreating. And if earlier they only referred to the superiority of the Armed Forces of Ukraine in numbers, now the Ukrainians also have superiority in tanks ...
    3. +2
      4 October 2022 16: 55
      Quote: Sergio_7
      The offensive actions of the Armed Forces of Ukraine are also not unlimited ... let's see how it goes on.

      Well, yes, so far in their plans they are limited to their former territories.
      1. 0
        4 October 2022 18: 43
        Quote: freddyk
        Well, yes, so far in their plans they are limited to their former territories.

        But the damned say there are others:
        She believes that such a development of events could force Moscow to abandon plans to take Odessa.
      2. -6
        4 October 2022 23: 03
        Quote: freddyk
        Well, yes, so far in their plans they are limited to their former territories.

        While
    4. +10
      4 October 2022 16: 56
      Only judging by the reports from the fronts, Kharkov 2 with such battles is inevitable. ..
      1. -3
        4 October 2022 17: 11
        Quote: Thrifty
        Only judging by the reports from the fronts, Kharkov 2 with such battles is inevitable. ..

        The main thing is to put grandfather in the Kremlin in a "warm bath" of good news from the front and you can retreat all the way to Sevastopol ....
        1. -10
          4 October 2022 17: 27
          Quote: Greg Miller
          Quote: Thrifty
          Only judging by the reports from the fronts, Kharkov 2 with such battles is inevitable. ..

          The main thing is to put grandfather in the Kremlin in a "warm bath" of good news from the front and you can retreat all the way to Sevastopol ....

          Or maybe it's better to put you down? laughing
          1. +12
            4 October 2022 18: 08
            Quote: Wend
            Or maybe it's better to put you down?

            Is there a warm bath in there? wink
            1. -5
              4 October 2022 18: 38
              Quote: isv000
              Quote: Wend
              Or maybe it's better to put you down?

              Is there a warm bath in there? wink

              Well, as he sits down, he will know laughing
          2. -2
            4 October 2022 18: 44
            Quote: Wend
            Quote: Greg Miller
            Quote: Thrifty
            Only judging by the reports from the fronts, Kharkov 2 with such battles is inevitable. ..

            The main thing is to put grandfather in the Kremlin in a "warm bath" of good news from the front and you can retreat all the way to Sevastopol ....

            Or maybe it's better to put you down? laughing

            On logging, or a bare booty on a hedgehog!? laughing hi Or maybe both? belay
            1. +1
              5 October 2022 10: 16
              Quote: 30 vis
              Quote: Wend
              Quote: Greg Miller
              Quote: Thrifty
              Only judging by the reports from the fronts, Kharkov 2 with such battles is inevitable. ..

              The main thing is to put grandfather in the Kremlin in a "warm bath" of good news from the front and you can retreat all the way to Sevastopol ....

              Or maybe it's better to put you down? laughing

              On logging, or a bare booty on a hedgehog!? laughing hi Or maybe both? belay

              This is an option. laughing
        2. +13
          4 October 2022 17: 34
          The thing is that people at the top must understand that they have nowhere to run. Neither to London, nor to Berlin, nor anywhere else. They are not Gorbachev Berezovsky, Abramovichs. They are entirely tied to the fate of the country. including them
          1. +6
            4 October 2022 18: 47
            Quote: dmi.pris
            The thing is that people at the top must understand that they have nowhere to run. Neither to London, nor to Berlin, nor anywhere else.

            Libya and Gaddafi have long and clearly demonstrated everything.
          2. ZoV
            +2
            4 October 2022 20: 20
            Quote: dmi.pris
            The thing is that people at the top must understand that they have nowhere to run. Neither to London, nor to Berlin, nor anywhere else. They are not Gorbachev Berezovsky, Abramovichs. They are entirely tied to the fate of the country. including them

            Everything is so and it's very good .. And then they got used to stealing and to London!
            Now they are afraid, on the one hand it’s good, on the other hand it’s bad. Our generals are not very reliable, as it turned out.
            Someone surrenders everyone and everything, judging by the situation on the fronts. (in the first Chechen one, something similar happened)
      2. +1
        5 October 2022 17: 38
        If the reports are like information about the capture of Duduchan, then such reports may be in the furnace. Because no one captured them
    5. +21
      4 October 2022 17: 00
      Quote: Sergio_7
      Now the situation in the Kherson direction remains difficult. This is especially true of the Berislav sector, where yesterday the Ukrainian military seized the village of Dudchany. This is largely due to the superiority of the Armed Forces of Ukraine in the number of personnel and equipment on this segment of the front.

      The offensive actions of the Armed Forces of Ukraine are also not unlimited ... let's see how it goes on.

      not unlimited ... but, they are now on the courage, which is very valuable in the offensive, they believe in themselves, the Russians are fleeing throwing the latest weapons ... now you need to drive them back into someone with tough sobering actions. so that ours had courage. so that ours would believe that they were not set up and abandoned.
      1. +7
        4 October 2022 20: 54
        Quote: Aerodrome
        so that ours believe that they were not set up and abandoned.

        already set up and abandoned, the Azov people were changed to godfather and the entire convoy was plundered.
        even thieves in the Duma are surprised how 1.5 million of the crew was stolen.
      2. +2
        5 October 2022 07: 19
        now you need to drive them back into someone with tough sobering actions. so that ours had courage. so that ours would believe that they were not set up and abandoned.
        I agree. For this, it is necessary that our strategic aviation (TU-22, TU-95 and TU-160), with their air-to-surface missiles with a firing range of up to 400 km, raze to the ground several auto-railway bridges, through which military supplies are delivered to the Ukronazis cargo and constantly hollowed out their rockets at the concentrations of Ukronazi troops. Thus, "strategists", among other things, will also gain real experience in combat shooting, which, quite possibly, will soon become very popular. Yes, and old missiles are being disposed of, which are subject to decommissioning. Why good should disappear? Even if at least one tank is hit by such a missile, there will be more benefit than simply destroying the old missile.
    6. +27
      4 October 2022 17: 13
      You say just like Putin .... they say, let's see how they will attack ..... and they all come and come)))))
      1. +8
        4 October 2022 17: 57
        well, we sit and watch, everyone said so
    7. +11
      4 October 2022 18: 00
      Quote: Sergio_7
      The offensive actions of the Armed Forces of Ukraine are also not unlimited ... let's see how it goes on.


      It seems that recently we have already heard this from someone, and almost a month has passed since then, and the Armed Forces of Ukraine are still advancing.
    8. 0
      4 October 2022 18: 09
      Now Zaparozhye will blaze, and there, at the ZNPP, they are preparing 2 battalions to capture the station. They can make a dirty bomb of the Armed Forces of Ukraine from it. Attacks from the Armed Forces of Ukraine will fall from all sides. This will not be the last retreat,
      1. -1
        5 October 2022 20: 01
        And why must a dirty bomb be made at the Zaporozhye NPP? What are the other 4 or 5 Ukrainian nuclear power plants not suitable for?
        1. -3
          5 October 2022 20: 15
          Because it is the closest to the Russian Federation. If the territories are ours in 1,5 months! They can blow up in retaliation: so don’t get to anyone! Only a bunch of TNT is a dirty bomb. Dirty, there is no nuclear explosion, like Chernobyl
    9. man
      +6
      4 October 2022 18: 19
      The offensive actions of the Armed Forces of Ukraine are also not unlimited ... let's see how it goes on.
      The fact of the matter is that they are practically limitless. The West gives them almost any weapon and manpower in the form of mercenaries and their military. The longer the war goes on, the less Ukrainian military will remain and the more military from NATO countries. the war cannot be won, the resources of the West are many times superior to ours.
      We need to eliminate Zelensky at any cost and negotiate with Zaluzhny. I hope he will be more independent in his decisions ...
      1. +16
        4 October 2022 19: 11
        Quote: mann
        The West gives them almost any weapon and manpower in the form of mercenaries and their military.


        weapons, yes, but there are several tens of thousands of mercenaries, and the remaining 500 thousand are the Armed Forces of Ukraine that Kyiv managed to collect in 7 months, while the Russian authorities chewed snot without destroying either the critical infrastructure in Ukraine or the decision-making centers in Kyiv.
        Meanwhile, Solovyov fed us information from a shovel, “look how our grouping of less than 200 thousand is smashing many times superior to the Armed Forces of Ukraine.
        1. man
          +1
          4 October 2022 21: 50
          there are several tens of thousands of mercenaries there, and the remaining 500 thousand are the Armed Forces of Ukraine
          I'm talking about the fact that fewer Ukrainians will remain, they will be replaced by mercenaries or Poles or someone else. The fewer APU-shnikov there are, the more scum there will be. What is the point for us to kill each other? It is useless to negotiate with Zelensky, he only listens to Washington and does not care how many Ukrainians die. We need to negotiate with Zaluzhny, and for this Zelensky must disappear.
          1. ban
            +1
            5 October 2022 01: 05
            Are you out of your mind?
            With whom to negotiate, with the Ukronazis?
            So that in a couple of years everything will happen again?
            404 was never on the map, and here it is again... should be gone forever.
            And the point.
        2. -7
          4 October 2022 23: 13
          Quote: lopvlad
          weapons, yes, but there are several tens of thousands of mercenaries there, and the remaining 500 thousand are the Armed Forces of Ukraine

          The number of APU from 700k. up to 1 million. The number of "Western volunteers" is from 250 to 500k. The USA mentioned this back in June-July that they are pulling ALL available mercenaries to the outskirts ...
          1. +1
            6 October 2022 00: 10
            Quote: Misha Honest
            The number of APU from 700k. up to 1 million


            fear has big eyes and you can count 5 million in fright. And I’m telling you about real numbers. And if you operate with yours, then Ukrainian troops should storm the Kremlin near Moscow.
            For example, against the background of the “leveling” of the front in the Kherson direction, it was announced that before the leveling or reduction of the front line, there were only an average of 500 Russian soldiers for every 15 kilometers of the front.
            And notice that they successfully held this front from the beginning of September to the beginning of October during the massive attacks of the Armed Forces of Ukraine. Do you really naively believe that if the number of the Armed Forces of Ukraine was at least 950 thousand (700 thousand Armed Forces of Ukraine + 250 thousand mercenaries), we would be able to hold the front for such a significant time such small forces?
            1. -5
              6 October 2022 01: 00
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              Quote: lopvlad
              fear has big eyes and you can count 5 million in fright. And I’m telling you about real numbers. And if you operate with yours, then Ukrainian troops should storm the Kremlin near Moscow.
              For example, against the background of the “leveling” of the front in the Kherson direction, it was announced that before the leveling or reduction of the front line, there were only an average of 500 Russian soldiers for every 15 kilometers of the front.
              And notice that they successfully held this front from the beginning of September to the beginning of October during the massive attacks of the Armed Forces of Ukraine. Do you really naively believe that if the number of the Armed Forces of Ukraine was at least 950 thousand (700 thousand Armed Forces of Ukraine + 250 thousand mercenaries), we would be able to hold the front for such a significant time such small forces?

              At the beginning of the war, the Armed Forces of Ukraine began mobilization and threw their troops into the meat, of course they still do this, but ... But at the beginning of the war, the Armed Forces of Ukraine did not have officer training centers either. And now this training is carried out by NATO instructors at bases throughout the European Union. So the quantity of the Armed Forces of Ukraine gradually develops into quality. In our troops, the opposite is true - quality into quantity ...
              1. -1
                7 October 2022 15: 28
                Quote: Misha Honest
                So the quantity of the Armed Forces of Ukraine gradually develops into quality.


                from what fright? in a few weeks and months you can’t train a professional in any way, but this can only be taken from the reserve, of course, if in this very reserve there are such professionals with experience in combat operations and who are in acceptable physical shape.
                So in Russia there are many times more such professionals among those mobilized than in Ukraine among its mobilized.
                The quantity of the Armed Forces of Ukraine does not develop into quality, but into the same amount of cannon fodder left by them in the form of corpses on the battlefield. And this is happening even now in conditions when Russia has no superiority in artillery on the battlefield due to the small number of soldiers on the battlefield.
      2. +9
        4 October 2022 20: 13
        No need to be so heartfelt and pathetic about "mercenaries" ...

        They are undoubtedly present, but by no means 30% of the number of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, as the unforgettable Rudolfich said today!
        Their number can really play a role in local tactical victory in a separate sector, but not in the main direction of the offensive, on a strategic sector of the front.
        These guys, unlike our Musicians, successfully drove the "army" of the native princes, aul kings and other princes of the jungle. Our Wagners have been fighting for a long time and, in particular, since February 24 in a real combined arms war, and this is a completely different compote!
        What can not be said about foreign geese, so they do not make special weather because of their quantity and quality.
        Everything has been clear about Zelensky for a long time, but it is necessary to negotiate with Zaluzhny not when we swiftly and dumbly, one by one, leave the settlements, but when he gets into "boilers, guts and other entrails, endlessly and carefully prepared devastating bags" , but he just won’t get there yet!

        Our strange and mysterious "maneuvers" have brought reality to the point that the clown !!! at the state level !!! forbade to negotiate with the President of Russia!!! It takes a lot of effort....
        Therefore, our Ministry of Defense, the Armed Forces, the General Staff and other military men need to fight in such a way that this "penis-pianist" urgently remembers how yesterday he begged for negotiations and today frantically demanded them to begin under any of our conditions!
        1. man
          +3
          4 October 2022 21: 38
          Therefore, our Ministry of Defense, the Armed Forces, the General Staff and other military men need to fight in such a way that this "penis-pianist" urgently remembers how yesterday he begged for negotiations and today frantically demanded them to begin under any of our conditions!
          He begged for negotiations, because the Americans ordered to drag out time. It is useless to deal with him, he is absolutely dependent. He must be "replaced".
        2. +1
          6 October 2022 00: 19
          Quote: Sebastian Aristarkhovich Pereira
          They are undoubtedly present, but not 30% of the APU


          it may well be only on a very narrow section of the front, and even then it is exaggerated. For example, during the breakthrough of the Armed Forces of Ukraine near Balakliya and Izyum, the number of advancing Ukrainian groups was equal to 9 thousand people, of which 3 thousand were mercenaries. But nowhere else in other directions is such a number of mercenaries in the attacking formations of the Armed Forces of Ukraine was not noted.
      3. -1
        5 October 2022 18: 15
        Quote: mann
        The offensive actions of the Armed Forces of Ukraine are also not unlimited ... let's see how it goes on.
        The fact of the matter is that they are practically limitless. The West gives them almost any weapon and manpower in the form of mercenaries and their military. The longer the war goes on, the less Ukrainian military will remain and the more military from NATO countries. the war cannot be won, the resources of the West are many times superior to ours.
        We need to eliminate Zelensky at any cost and negotiate with Zaluzhny. I hope he will be more independent in his decisions ...


        This is the kind of war we need to win. And there is nothing impossible in this, you just need to fight normally and not arrange “regroupings”.
        If problems are solved:
        - silence
        - stupid officers
        - lack of technology
        - bad intelligence
        - Separately, I will single out drones and thermal imagers
        And finally, start hitting strategic targets with missiles and finally suppress them from air defense so that our plane can fly to Lviv at high altitude - then we will win in any case.
        But this is something hard to believe. For now
    10. +8
      4 October 2022 19: 34
      Hats, most importantly hats, more hats, heavier ones. What would be more confident to throw the enemy!
    11. -3
      4 October 2022 20: 09
      The offensive actions of the Armed Forces of Ukraine are no longer the Armed Forces of Ukraine, but a hodgepodge of mercenaries from different countries. Who is not there from all over the world. So it’s not a pity for them to arrange a big chapalakh. Razgandoshit all this wasp chalet to edren hair dryer.
    12. 0
      4 October 2022 20: 50
      Then lend-lease went.
      sooo many weapons will give
      1. 0
        7 October 2022 15: 35
        Quote: composite
        sooo many weapons will give


        the weapon itself does not shoot and sooo many weapons need sooo much cannon fodder, and Ukraine’s mobilization potential can already be exhausted. That’s why Zelensky’s tantrums after partial mobilization was announced in Russia.
    13. -1
      5 October 2022 17: 16
      Given that the Dudchans are in our hands...
  2. +40
    4 October 2022 16: 38
    With such GK + MO + GSH, everything is possible. feel In addition to the stolen 1,5 million uniforms, something else will come up. what
    1. -1
      4 October 2022 16: 46
      Quote: Amper
      With such GK + MO + GSH, everything is possible. feel In addition to the stolen 1,5 million uniforms, something else will come up. what

      If only it didn’t surface that there were no tanks on which recruits should fight ...
      Do I understand correctly that right now, in an emergency mode, several thousand modernized modern tanks are being rolled out and run in from the "bins of the Moscow Region"? Not sixty twos, right?? And to them thousands of refueling trucks, and so on and so forth?
      1. +6
        4 October 2022 17: 56
        It seems to me that just the T-72 and T-62.
        There are a lot of them in the bases.
        And Almaty will not let partisans steer
        1. +2
          4 October 2022 18: 07
          There were trains with T-72A and Naked T-62. It is not entirely clear where, maybe in what training units. In theory, there should be relatively better variants of the T-80BV type in storage. And there will definitely not be enough new and modernized tanks for all those mobilized, there were not enough of them for the "peacetime army".
          1. -8
            4 October 2022 19: 50
            What are you writing here? Write directly to Bankova with the coordinates of the place, how much, what, when.
            Previously, scouts went for language, now you can find all the information on social networks. Zelek forbade his filming and uploading to the Internet. Sometimes the rational grain and the clown happens.
            1. +7
              4 October 2022 22: 03
              Woman, you are inadequate. This information is already in the open source. Those who need it have been revered for a long time.
        2. 0
          5 October 2022 20: 08
          So far, only the mechanic drivers of parade crews have steered the armats, and also (hopefully) testers at the plant.
          And in general, I already have questions: is there any convincing evidence that the "Armata" is not a hodovka from some T-72, with sheets of plywood hastily nailed (that's why it's all angular) and a piece of pipe instead of a gun? And what - our valiant military-industrial complex has already been caught trying to pass off a drone bought on Ali Express as an unparalleled UAV.
      2. +6
        4 October 2022 17: 58
        a lot of 62 roll out and yellow fuel trucks from standing for decades in the sun, I myself saw the other day
        1. -9
          4 October 2022 20: 00
          Hoh, they will revere and rejoice that everything is so bad with us and they will smash it on the Internet that our army is useless. This is the support of our soldiers.
          1. 0
            5 October 2022 06: 38
            like they don’t know how many echelons across Russia take pictures of them, collect information from military units, there are thousands of them here
          2. 0
            5 October 2022 20: 11
            Don't worry so much - until February 24, this was the main military secret in our country, and it was kept so carefully that even the top military-political leadership was not informed. After February 24, the secrecy was removed de facto, so now only the deaf-blind-mute do not know about it.
      3. 0
        4 October 2022 18: 23
        About tanks, I wrote that there are at most 2 thousand of them. How will we teach tankers if we have 2 thousand tanks and 1 thousand infantry fighting vehicles? You need to look at the wiki, but how many MLRS do we have? "Necessary" in the defense. After 7 months, in terms of military saturation in the ground forces, we caught up with the APU.
        1. -1
          5 October 2022 06: 39
          don’t worry, what’s what, there are plenty of tanks and old infantry fighting vehicles, 2 thousand is many times more than they allegedly lost
          1. -1
            5 October 2022 20: 14
            Only for those tanks (we are generally silent about BMPs), even RPGs, not to mention ATGMs, are a sentence without the slightest chance of salvation for the crews. So, these old tanks and infantry fighting vehicles are ideal for combating overpopulation in the vastness of the Russian Federation. But do we have overpopulation?
            1. -1
              6 October 2022 06: 07
              new tanks can also be destroyed, now there are a huge number of modern ATGMs
              1. 0
                6 October 2022 06: 32
                They have a lot of ATGMs, and almost every pensioner and child in the sandbox has modern grenade launchers. No one has guarantees of survival in a war, but the risk of death and the almost complete guarantee of not returning home are two different things.
                1. -1
                  6 October 2022 07: 14
                  in the Kherson direction, t62m were very successfully used, they fired from ambushes
      4. 0
        7 October 2022 15: 39
        Quote: Corona without virus
        If only it didn’t surface that there were no tanks,


        those tanks that have not been around for a week are being transported by "endless" echelons by piece of iron to the Crimea.
    2. +13
      4 October 2022 17: 37
      In the cart today about Lapin. An investigation is being carried out, absolutely wild things are being revealed. Yes, it’s not even about Lapin, but about the system
      1. +3
        4 October 2022 17: 48
        Haven't they got lawyers for him yet? Otherwise, Strasbourg people pop up everywhere and say that Lapin is an angel in the flesh.
        1. +3
          4 October 2022 18: 31
          Now another general Gurulev began to resent: Who is fighting like that! Now he is a deputy of the State Duma from the United Russia. So all the generals are in United Russia. And we are offered to listen to another "specialist" from EP
          1. -1
            4 October 2022 18: 40
            Don't care about Gurulev. They washed Lapin there, or how?
      2. +1
        4 October 2022 18: 47
        Quote: dmi.pris
        In the cart today about Lapin. An investigation is underway, absolutely wild things are being revealed

        Post the link, take a look...
        1. +3
          4 October 2022 19: 02
          Informed people say that there is a showdown along Lapin. They can arrest, absolutely wild facts have come to light. His arrest may reveal many vicious facts related to the generals of the MO.

          Without trying to justify Lapin, and regardless of whether he is guilty or not, whether he will be arrested or not, it seems to me that the problem is not only in Lapin. Our army is also retreating where there is no Lapin. If it was only in Lapin, then it would be half the trouble. But this is not so ... .. To be honest, I don’t believe Oleg Tsarev at all. And I consider him a modern “priest Gapon.” But this information is from the VO cart. It was from O. Tsarev this morning at VO.
          1. +3
            4 October 2022 20: 30
            According to Lapin, I read. They explain that it's not about Lapin, he's a scapegoat. At Lapin, the troops were pulled apart. Part was taken near Kharkov, part south to Kherson, people who fought with him write that they were not noticed in cowardice, he was on the front line almost 800 meters from the conduct of hostilities .... .. He bled his units .. They plugged their holes, covered their defense areas. own mistakes .. . As for Tsarev ... Oleg Tsarev is certainly not a poor man .. he was in Ukraine. Bold, courageous, he fought with the Nazis in the Verkhovna Rada in hand-to-hand blood.. To death. They burned down his house in the small Motherland... They threatened him and his family with death. Father , mother , wife , children .. Ukraine began to collapse , left for the Crimea . Here he has a medium business. So, that not every rich person from Ukraine's Svido pop Gapon ... And no matter how now he is not very rich and is participating in the construction of New Russia. Passed a test for lice with his own blood ... There are not many of these former "Yatsenyuks and Yanukovychs". Two or three.
      3. 0
        5 October 2022 19: 16
        On what channel is it written about the investigation? I want to read.
        1. 0
          5 October 2022 19: 43
          This is Oleg Tsarev in a VO cart. Try to go to Tsarev in VK, or wherever he is. Look.
    3. -1
      5 October 2022 23: 43
      well, even more than 300 billion was spent on the purchase of 40 brigade sets of ESU TK in 2020, as a result: no money, no sets wassat
  3. +27
    4 October 2022 16: 39
    A month ago I would have laughed out loud ...
    1. +26
      4 October 2022 16: 47
      You should have seen the reaction of colleagues when, even before the SVO, I wrote that we would actually fight with ourselves (according to the degree of persistence) of the enemy and that the Armed Forces of Ukraine would definitely not scatter, and the war would be very difficult.
      1. +9
        4 October 2022 17: 25
        Quote: Quote Lavrov
        You should have seen the reaction of colleagues when, even before the SVO, I wrote that we would actually fight with ourselves (according to the degree of persistence) of the enemy and that the Armed Forces of Ukraine would definitely not scatter, and the war would be very difficult.

        Yes. And khokhlopiteki can only dig the seas and in general they are more like subhumans jumping in pots on their heads around a fire made of tires.
        To draw an analogy of their point of view with the statements of a man with a mustache from one European country, they were ready to score in "skulls". "You don't understand. It's different"
        1. +7
          4 October 2022 17: 50
          If the people at the helm believe that untenable situations can be overcome with willpower and courage, because the enemy is subhuman and therefore incapable of it, then it follows that all failures are the work of the fifth column. Anyone who has opened a history textbook should know that this kind of thinking is a delusion.

          I would very much like the supporters of such an ideology to get acquainted with the soldiers who spent time in the trenches.
          1. 0
            5 October 2022 00: 04
            So call the 5th column? My opinion, in five years, the Ministry of Defense bled the ground forces without armored vehicles, and talk shows, to the same State Duma, since it is all pocket AP GDP.
            You once heard from the State Duma, some kind of investigation, an accusation against terror in the Russian language, murders in the LDNR, in Odessa on the Maidan, in justifying the Nazis in rewriting the Second World War. And the State Duma concealing information from all citizens of the Russian Federation and Ukrainians on the history of Ukrainization 1924-32 , what was the name of the territory of present-day Ukraine until 1917 and what was the name of the population who lived on this territory?
        2. Egg
          0
          4 October 2022 18: 25
          There are already half of the Romanians, Poles and NATO members ... Only for some reason both Konashenko and the "vaunted" military correspondents are silent about this.
          But the Ukrainians are no longer embarrassed to upload videos with NATO members and other foreign rabble
        3. 0
          4 October 2022 18: 59
          This is Ukrainianophilism! The Bolsheviks carried out Urainophilism in 1924-32. It’s as if they were now saying the reformatting of the population from Little Russian Jews to Russians into Ukrainians. compare it to mania! The words "Ukraine" "Ukrainian" is something magical for them, like a militant religion, a Ukrainian catechism. But do you understand what these terms are? they don’t want the word “absolutely.” As I read: from the Russian word oukraina-outskirts-near the edge-chevo or, ukraine-ukraine (pols), borderland, it’s a wild field -desert-deserted, buffer zone-between someone It turns out (o) Ukrainian wild fields And this is the middle of the 2014th century
      2. +10
        4 October 2022 17: 40
        Quote: Quote Lavrov
        we will actually fight with ourselves


        Probably no one expected such a development of the situation. Europe did not expect that Russia is so economically stable and that the "regime" for the people is not perceived in the same way as they inspired themselves. And this blunder is costing them dearly. And in Russia they made a mistake with the prediction of the NWO - what will happen like in the Crimea, they will be met as liberators, there will be no serious resistance. Ukraine was perceived and is now perceived by many, even on this resource, as France during the Second World War. But this, the second largest country in Europe, does not differ much in the will to resist, like Russia. With the same fighting character and perseverance, willingness to go to the embrasure. It is a great tragedy that they were able to replace values ​​and ideology there with an alien, harmful and devastatingly wrong one. From all this, the United States benefits, this is all their work, and let them be overtaken by the most severe punishment. For so many victims, destruction and losses.
        1. 0
          4 October 2022 17: 49
          Already 4. And after the company, God forbid - 6 will be.
      3. +6
        4 October 2022 17: 48
        Quote: Quote Lavrov
        You should have seen the reaction of colleagues when, even before the SVO, I wrote that we would actually fight with ourselves (according to the degree of persistence) of the enemy and that the Armed Forces of Ukraine would definitely not scatter, and the war would be very difficult.

        Likewise. And in response, my opponent wrote that "the operation will be lightning-fast", "little bloodshed", "Bandera's people will scatter" ...
        1. +2
          5 October 2022 16: 40
          History goes in circles. We don't learn anything. Again, with little blood in a foreign land.
      4. +1
        4 October 2022 18: 50
        Quote: Quote Lavrov
        You should have seen the reaction of colleagues when, even before the CBO, I wrote that we would actually fight with ourselves (according to the degree of perseverance)

        I also wrote that we are fighting with our shadow ... the Amerzes found an ideal enemy for the Russians, exactly the same Russians ... This is our common tragedy ... On the one hand, in the Yura trench, and on the other hand, in the Yura trench. ..
        1. -1
          5 October 2022 20: 17
          Only now the factor of June 22, 1941 works for the Ukrainians, and not for us. And you can shout as much as you like that they would have attacked anyway and it was a preemptive strike, but these are talks in favor of the poor - these talks will not change the fact whose army crossed the border.
          1. +1
            5 October 2022 20: 34
            Quote: UAZ 452
            Only now the factor of June 22, 1941 works for the Ukrainians, and not for us. And you can shout as much as you like that they would have attacked anyway and it was a preemptive strike, but these are talks in favor of the poor - these talks will not change the fact whose army crossed the border.

            Smart people excluded this "factor". Stupid people take it on faith ... And most importantly, we are not Germans, the inhabitants of the current Svidozhido-Bandera Ukraine are not British either .. Let's figure it out for ourselves .. Without snotty "patriots" from Tsipso. .
      5. CYM
        +6
        4 October 2022 19: 00
        And I wrote back in 2019 that the allegedly high motivation and combat training of our elite contract divisions raises reasonable doubts. They downvoted me then, though not much. Unfortunately, my doubts were partly confirmed. sad
        1. +1
          5 October 2022 20: 25
          So there is one factor that from March, or even February to May, everyone was engaged exclusively in preparing for the next parade, enough to gobble up 20% of the combat training time. But even tank biathlons, all-army competitions were also more often held at their base, and other circus performances. Any sane outside observer will say that such a nature of service will inevitably turn even initially combat-ready units and formations into an analogue of a cavalry regiment at the Mosfilm film studio - in essence, into a circus troupe.
      6. -1
        4 October 2022 19: 44
        Considering that the Nazi ideology makes them very stubborn, plus the desire to destroy Muscovites and Russia.
  4. +11
    4 October 2022 16: 41
    If left unchecked, this could very well happen. Instead of asking for help from the allies, our gifted politicians continue incomprehensible games.
    For some reason, Lobaev’s company was checking right now. Obviously some kind of sabotage, the initiators must be caught.
    1. +18
      4 October 2022 16: 43
      Which allies? Old Man has already helped, if he sends his troops, he will receive the Maidan.
  5. +19
    4 October 2022 16: 42
    Well, judging by the reports, the front also collapsed there, we are actually retreating to Kherson and Kakhovka, if we lose Kakhovka and the only bulk crossing through the gateway, then it’s complete .., behind the Dnieper, how to retreat .. The bridges are destroyed. What the General Staff is doing is the question, it feels like this is the Iraqi scenario.
    1. 0
      4 October 2022 16: 46
      Conscious drain, IMHO. Perhaps when the Ukrainians occupy the Kherson and Zaporozhye regions, this will become the subject of bargaining for the Donetsk and Lugansk regions. Only they forgot to tell them that Znlensky had a Blanche card from the United States, since he ruled out the very possibility of negotiations with Putin. Or maybe this is generally one big multi-way to drain you know who.
      1. +12
        4 October 2022 16: 50
        when the Ukrainians occupy the Kherson and Zaporozhye regions, this will become the subject of bargaining for the Donetsk and Luhansk regions.

        And what then was the point of annexing these regions to Russia?
        1. +18
          4 October 2022 16: 54
          Then, in order to say at the negotiations: you took our Kherson, leave Donetsk behind. In general, I myself am amazed why they were accepted into the composition. Hike at the top, in fact, the guys have no idea what's going on below.
          1. +11
            4 October 2022 16: 57
            Hike at the top, in fact, the guys have no idea what's going on below.

            There is another option that someone decided to become an honorary citizen of America.
          2. -16
            4 October 2022 17: 02
            . In general, I myself am amazed why they took part

            You ask strange questions ... what side are you talking about at all?
            It seems that half of the commentators on VO from TsIPSO are broadcasting. what
            1. +9
              4 October 2022 17: 15
              If it seems to you that Ukrainians are everywhere, maybe it’s not about khokhols)) I’ll explain my thesis: Crimea was accepted into the Russian Federation when it became clear that there would be no counteractions and security was ensured. Notice Donetsk at 14 was not accepted, as there were obvious problems. Now we take Kherson in an extremely unstable situation.
            2. -8
              4 October 2022 17: 30
              It seems that half of the commentators on VO from TsIPSO are broadcasting

              So it most likely is. Half of the CIPSO, and there are enough of our cretins. They would at least indicate the country of broadcasting of all commentators, at least for a while ...
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            3. +1
              4 October 2022 19: 46
              yes, it is, everywhere tsipso, when people veined (and some in winter) yelled about the need to mobilize them, they were also branded with hohlami and tsipso
            4. +1
              5 October 2022 17: 30
              I absolutely agree, half of the commentators are disguised Ukrainians, don’t go to your grandmother ....
            5. -1
              6 October 2022 07: 02
              17 minuses-17 cissors. For them, your comment is like holy water for evil spirits.
            6. 0
              6 October 2022 12: 49
              This is not a feeling, but a reality. You look ... You have 16 minuses. For what? Apparently you are being "followed", and they understand that you are a Russian person, have been and will be. Therefore they are minus.
              Yes, there are a lot of them in VO. Their name is "legion"
          3. +1
            4 October 2022 19: 05
            Quote: Vincent Price
            Hike at the top, in fact, the guys have no idea what's going on below.

            Rather, it looks like the "right guys" are standing in the shadows above these guys.
            Untouchable.
        2. +7
          4 October 2022 16: 56
          And how do you order the president's rating to be raised? By the Crimea already accustomed.
          1. +6
            4 October 2022 17: 34
            Does he have it after "treating with understanding" to raising the retirement age? Not according to the court reports of VTsIOM, but in fact. Those whom I personally know after that, the ranks of his supporters left. And not even because he raised them, but because he repeatedly assured them that this would not happen, it was very insulting to them. They did believe him. By the way, with mobilization the same thing. No later than in March he would not be assured. So sorry....
            1. -10
              4 October 2022 18: 07
              You, Kiril, first write your name without errors ...
              1. +3
                4 October 2022 18: 19
                This does not change the essence. I wrote about my acquaintances, before that ardent Putinists.
              2. -1
                6 October 2022 12: 52
                so the name is not his)) that's why he writes with errors
            2. +1
              4 October 2022 23: 27
              Believe me, there are a lot of supporters and even mobilization did not turn them away. There is something psychological, apparently, the instinct to follow the most gray-haired gorilla. Half of them, by the way, are screaming about cisso)
        3. -1
          4 October 2022 17: 15
          Quote: Pulkovo1942
          And what then was the point of annexing these regions to Russia?


          Sweeten the mobilization.
          1. +1
            4 October 2022 21: 19
            Quote: Nikolay_070
            Sweeten the mobilization.

            Medvedchuk sweetened enough. just a hero of Russia.
      2. +1
        4 October 2022 16: 59
        Quote from Vincent Price
        Conscious drain, IMHO. Perhaps when the Ukrainians occupy the Kherson and Zaporozhye regions, this will become the subject of bargaining for the Donetsk and Lugansk regions. Only they forgot to tell them that Znlensky had a Blanche card from the United States, since he ruled out the very possibility of negotiations with Putin. Or maybe this is generally one big multi-way to drain you know who.

        What is the subject of the auction? Kherson Russian city
      3. +3
        4 October 2022 17: 10
        if my memory serves me right, in Kherson, units 58a were in reserve, which were transferred under the Liman in a fire order, how warm you get and sign, one hope for mobilization remains, because the personnel contract units seem to have been depopulated greatly
      4. +2
        4 October 2022 17: 50
        What trade? They have already signed the documents. There is no going back. And the Sumerians will not bargain with them about anything.
      5. -4
        4 October 2022 18: 32
        All this is being started for the sake of the American Lend-Lease.

        Putin invites American equipment for recycling

        Ukraine, under Lend-Lease, can count on the supply of such military equipment:

        Main battle tanks (MBT) III generation M1A2 Abrams (or other modifications of this MBT);
        American BMP M2A3 Bradley and BRDM M3A3 Bradley;
        Self-propelled artillery mounts (ACS) M109A6 Paladin;
        Multiple launch rocket systems (MLRS) of the HIMARS family on a wheeled chassis;
        Universal launchers MLRS M270 MLRS;
        Mobile air defense systems (MANPADS) NASAMS 2 (Norway/USA);
        Stationary anti-aircraft missile systems (SAM) Patriot;
        Multifunctional light fighters of the fourth generation F-16 C/D.
      6. +7
        4 October 2022 18: 41
        Quote: Vincent Price
        Perhaps when the Ukrainians occupy the Kherson and Zaporozhye regions, this will become the subject of bargaining for the Donetsk and Lugansk regions.

        And what show-off kaklam to bargain with us, if you can push and take?
        1. -1
          4 October 2022 23: 29
          Huh, none. But we are reasonable people.
    2. +4
      4 October 2022 19: 23
      There is nothing for the mobilized to fight and there is nothing for the generals from the mo and gsh to supply! There are 15 million aka-74s in warehouses, if they haven’t been squandered! they are from 64 years old, there are 72 thousand of them, so they need to be repaired
      1. 0
        5 October 2022 09: 00
        Quote from: hetvertak
        There is nothing for the mobilized to fight, and there is nothing for the generals from the military and general staff to supply! There are 15 million aka-74s in warehouses, if not squandered!

        Well, yes. Especially "delighted" was the case with the issuance of rusty machine guns to the mobilized - it was dripping on the boxes from the leaky roof, you see, the men themselves will clean it! I consider sending that local "Shmatko" to the front the smallest thing that can be done for him ...
  6. +24
    4 October 2022 16: 42
    it’s just that there are no words, but what general don’t spit on all the heroes of Russia, Putin has at least one sensible one or he can only report good news like Ensign Konashenkov
    1. +6
      4 October 2022 16: 47
      There is at least one sensible Putin, or he can only report good news like ensign Konashenkov

      What ensign does not dream of becoming a senior ensign? :)
    2. +3
      4 October 2022 16: 59
      "At least one sensible one can be found"
      Good heard only about Teplinsky and Muradov.

      In general, our talented generals ended with the death of Lev Rokhlin. IMHO.
      1. +9
        4 October 2022 18: 07
        With murder! And under very "strange" circumstances. I believe that only a very naive person will unconditionally accept the official version of his murder by his wife, with whom they went through fire and water together.
      2. -4
        4 October 2022 19: 33
        Shamanov remained, We don’t know about Yevkurov, But they are airborne. Now there is not enough Maskhadov, Chechen commanders. It is necessary to return those Chechens who fought in 90-2 thousand years
  7. +11
    4 October 2022 16: 46
    In the United States, they are discussing how to inflict a "major defeat on Russia in the Kherson region" (this is Russia, by the way), and in Russia they are not even discussing how to eliminate the aiming of UAF strike weapons at Russian troops by US satellites.
  8. -3
    4 October 2022 16: 47
    That's why the pike in the claws of cancer, so that the gudgeon does not doze off.
    Can a catfish sleep well?
    Mo rf sleeping or preparing for war after his?
  9. +16
    4 October 2022 16: 51
    "major defeat"
    It will no longer be possible to achieve the goals set for demilitarization and denazification. No amount of mobilization will help. We are not talking about victory, the question is in what form the Russian Federation will be.
    1. +6
      4 October 2022 17: 51
      It seems that denazification and demilitarization will be carried out by us, like the Germans in the 45th.
    2. -5
      4 October 2022 17: 52
      Nonsense is complete. Everything will be, only later.
    3. -2
      4 October 2022 19: 48
      It will no longer be possible to achieve the goals set for demilitarization and denazification. No amount of mobilization will help. It's not about winning.

      The rulers in Russia need to understand that this is not boxing in a tournament, a draw or a victory on points will not work, here it’s like in fights without rules, which are not on TV, only the most severe knockout counts.
      1. -1
        5 October 2022 15: 12
        Rulers in Russia need to understand
        The rulers in Russia need to understand that these are not elections, here you really need to win, you can’t just announce the winner ...
  10. +30
    4 October 2022 16: 51
    The Armed Forces of Ukraine have a multiple numerical superiority and uninterrupted railway communication everywhere, from Kharkov to Kherson. Amazing, right?
    1. +2
      4 October 2022 17: 08
      I am constantly surprised at the same. We started an operation against a numerically superior enemy, he has already managed to mobilize the army. According to various sources, there are now 600-700 thousand in the Armed Forces of Ukraine, and we still have 120-150 thousand at the front. MIRACLES DO NOT HAPPEN! hi
      RS - MO RF - "everything is according to plan!"
      1. +1
        4 October 2022 18: 10
        It has long been said which battalions God is on the side of.
      2. +2
        4 October 2022 18: 16
        Much less for a long time now. At the beginning and during its course, many contract soldiers quit, add the dead and wounded. Judging by reports from military correspondents, only NM LDNR, PMC Wagner, volunteer battalions and Russian artillery are fighting.
    2. +9
      4 October 2022 17: 23
      The situation in the Kherson direction remains difficult ..... This is largely due to the superiority of the 25th Army of the World over the 2nd Army of the World in the number of personnel and the amount of equipment on this sector of the front ... Wonderful are your deeds, Lord ... .
  11. +5
    4 October 2022 16: 52
    Well, if there is not enough personnel in the Russian army, then bring in "Korean workers". Why puff out your cheeks menacingly when we are already losing ground? In war, all means are good. So use all the possibilities! Hire mercenaries in large numbers. Buy missing weapons and equipment in even larger quantities. When there is a victory, then mistakes in planning the operation and theft from warehouses will largely be written off. You can’t pull the “rubber” now in the hope that it will resolve itself!
    1. +7
      4 October 2022 17: 00
      By the way, yes. How many ... were thrown into the media space about 50000 fighters from the DPRK, volunteers from Syria, Lebanon.
      And where are they?
      1. +8
        4 October 2022 17: 10
        Well, it’s not like carrying English mercenaries on a private plane, it’s the Koreans Abramovich won’t fly after them
        1. +3
          4 October 2022 19: 21
          Quote from Dartanyan
          Well, it’s not like carrying English mercenaries on a private plane, it’s the Koreans Abramovich won’t fly after them

          And the Rotenbergs and Timchenko will not fly.
          Something I remember Sobchak taken out on a private plane from St. Petersburg from under a written undertaking not to leave.
  12. +8
    4 October 2022 16: 53
    There will be no major defeat. There will be a major regrouping of troops.
  13. -16
    4 October 2022 16: 54
    To be honest, I don’t understand the surprise of the commentators about what is happening, if the NVO had gone exclusively between Russia and Ukraine, then it would probably have ended in March-April. But Western assistance has not only leveled all our advantage, it also gives Ukraine a technological advantage in reconnaissance and precision strikes.
    That's all, the situation is somewhat similar to the last Armenian-Azerbaijani conflict, when one side had a technological advantage (in addition to problems with support, command, etc.) This advantage can only be compensated by increasing the number of troops by several times, increasing the grouping to 2-3 million people, only here the question is whether the Russian economy can cope.
    1. +14
      4 October 2022 16: 58
      The advantages of the RF Armed Forces were leveled, by no means, by Western assistance.
      1. +18
        4 October 2022 17: 06
        .... but stupidity, cowardice, stupidity of the leadership.
        1. 0
          4 October 2022 17: 15
          Well, not without it, of course, but in Georgia there was also stupidity, there was more than enough stupidity, but it was lucky that the Georgian army was not large and they did not provide assistance to it in the amount that it is provided to Ukraine.
          1. 0
            6 October 2022 00: 04
            and troops were controlled by mobile phones.
        2. +1
          4 October 2022 19: 26
          Quote: Marine Engineer
          .... but stupidity, cowardice, stupidity of the leadership.

          Bourgeois greed and hypocrisy missed. Yes
      2. +6
        4 October 2022 17: 10
        It is Western in the first place, intelligence tools that allow, well, if not in real time so very close to it, to track the situation on almost the entire front, quickly identify warehouses, headquarters and then strike, count how many warehouses were blown up and headquarters were covered, not just General Lapin (he himself admitted) was most of the time in Lugansk, just as Western intelligence allows you to identify bottlenecks at the front and strike there and does not allow covert transfer of assistance.
        1. +15
          4 October 2022 17: 22
          It turns out that the West is to blame for the fact that it can provide target designation for the Ukrainian army, and our commanders and rudders have nothing to do with it? What they have been doing for the last 10 years, playing tanks, building temples with parks, and of course stealing - this is sacred for ghouls. It seems that Putin only has to turn to the people - "Brothers and sisters ...", otherwise you can lose the country.
          1. +2
            4 October 2022 17: 27
            And where did I blame the West? It is not entirely our fault from planning the operation, reconnaissance, conducting subversive activities in Ukraine to implementation. In addition to the failed reforms of the army, its saturation with new types of weapons, etc.
            1. +4
              4 October 2022 17: 39
              The problem is that these 300000 mobilized will not help.
              1. +4
                4 October 2022 17: 47
                Unfortunately not, these 300 thousand are only for plugging holes at the front.
                1. 0
                  4 October 2022 17: 51
                  I doubt that it will be possible to patch up the holes with the mobilized. You can't win if you fight with yourself.
                2. -1
                  4 October 2022 19: 37
                  300 nsc +200k allied troops =500k
                  1 million in the barracks
              2. +1
                4 October 2022 18: 03
                these will be sent to the front, they will still gain 300 and so there will be 3-4 waves
                1. +4
                  4 October 2022 18: 19
                  You so easily dispose of the lives of 1000 people.
                  1. +2
                    4 October 2022 18: 26
                    they themselves wrote that 300 would not really help at the front
                    1. -3
                      4 October 2022 18: 38
                      Of course, they won’t help until we start shooting down Euromen’s AWACS planes (if it doesn’t help, then satellites), we don’t start jamming the Internet over the territory of Ukraine, breaking up crossings on the western border, bridges ... and most importantly, putting things in order at the top with the "Abramoviches" .. .otherwise we will just lose people
                      1. 0
                        4 October 2022 18: 48
                        you wrote those actions that lead to a nuclear war, it’s better just to bang on the dill, so at least a nuclear response won’t arrive, and you’re still tired of this nonsense about breaking bridges along the border, you can’t destroy them with missiles, aviation won’t fly
                      2. +1
                        4 October 2022 19: 25
                        I always said: Russian women will save Russia!
                        Thank you from the bottom of my heart!
                      3. -2
                        4 October 2022 19: 52
                        aircraft will not reach

                        Look here
                        45 minutes 19 seconds
                        https://rutube.ru/video/c96dd5db5b57f0a57b8db95a11fb5abf/
                      4. SSA
                        +1
                        4 October 2022 18: 51
                        Reasons to shoot down AWACS and satellites in the international space? These are units that are NOT directly involved in the conflict.
                        Direct aggression against NATO? Do you think that since it did not work out with Ukraine, supported by NATO, it would be better to come out with NATO itself? Do you think they will not be able to shoot down a couple of our AWACS and a dozen satellites? And in general to establish a useless zone?
                      5. +2
                        4 October 2022 19: 00
                        And sinking our flagship of the Black Sea Fleet, tearing up our gas pipelines - is this not direct aggression? If at the very beginning at least one of their AWACS planes had been shot down, everything would have been fine, the Euromen would have known their place. Now one plane is no longer enough, the European people have already become insolent to the edge. And most importantly, we need to put things in order with our "Abramovichs"
                      6. SSA
                        +2
                        5 October 2022 07: 49
                        The United States did not sink our flagship, we generally say that our ammunition exploded there ... ourselves.

                        The pipeline (it has not yet been established who blew it up) and the plane with the crew are two different things.

                        You propose to capture a protected pawn with the queen.

                        Well, we will shoot down one AWACS (one of several dozen!) And 5 (out of a hundred) satellites, then what?

                        NATO will shoot down all our satellites (there are only a dozen modern ones), transfer ground-to-ground missiles with a range of 400 km for Hymars, Ukraine, transfer Predator-type UAVs, transfer f-16 f-15, 30-40 pieces with their pilots and AIM- 120, support them with AWACS and that's it ... a no-fly zone will be established by the Ukrainian Air Force.

                        War is not about who shoots whom, war is about who changes their mind.
                      7. 0
                        4 October 2022 19: 27
                        Everything is reciprocal.
                        Poker is an American game and the one who deals the marked cards wins.
          2. 0
            4 October 2022 19: 33
            Quote: Vladimir M
            It seems that Putin only has to turn to the people - "Brothers and sisters ...", otherwise you can lose the country.

            In order to get a ride, you need a few "friends" who are "not handed over" to hand over and fork out.
  14. -2
    4 October 2022 16: 55
    Previously, I would have considered such news stupidity, but now ......
    1. -3
      4 October 2022 17: 34
      Quote: Scipio
      Previously, I would have considered such news stupidity, but now ......

      And now no one calls her a fool woman and does not point out: "Where did you get into? What can you understand in this? Shout into the kitchen" laughing
  15. -4
    4 October 2022 16: 56
    What if there is no war, but there is some kind of bargaining between the interested parties? Then everything is clear.
  16. 0
    4 October 2022 16: 59
    maybe it's time for the Russian Federation to strike at the rear of the infrastructure and in Kyiv and in all cities metadically on the SBU on the structure of power, etc., etc.? maybe it's enough to be masochists already?
    1. +2
      4 October 2022 17: 12
      This is a game in both directions, we will begin to take out the rear, Ukraine will be supplied with weapons with which it will reach our infrastructure.
      1. -3
        4 October 2022 17: 17
        masked to destroy metadically to draw the red lines of the United States and NATO is no longer out of thin air, but normal! if we tighten them, they will put them on and they will start beating one fig in the rear of the Russian Federation! in the meantime, the RF can get by with minimal losses!
      2. 0
        4 October 2022 17: 35
        And there is. This is an agreement from the first day in the key - "You do not hit on these and those objects of Ukraine, and we do not give Ukraine anything so serious that it can reach Moscow."
        And therefore our adhere to these agreements. This stick is double ended.
        No one knows how many things have been brought there and more will be brought there.
        And it can all rain down en masse on neighboring Russian regions.
        1. -5
          4 October 2022 17: 42
          how it will sprinkle in other regions of the Russian Federation, so from ukrr maybe nothing will remain from the world! we need to make a decision and not play the game that the United States and the Britons slip us!
          1. +2
            4 October 2022 17: 48
            we need to make a decision and not play the game that the United States and the Britons slip us!


            This had to be done earlier before the start of the NWO, and long before. The Kremlin obviously had no plans to fight the West, and now it is clear that there are no resources to fight the West either.
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            2. -5
              4 October 2022 18: 01
              There are resources! The Russian Federation was preparing to fight NATO!
              1. +12
                4 October 2022 18: 15
                None of us prepared for anything! In general, they didn’t even prepare for a war with Ukraine, therefore they pulled rubber with mobilization until things got to the point.
                Prepared for a coup in Kyiv. That all this junta will get scared and run away from Ukraine.
                And they will put their own person instead of Zelensky, the one that they recently exchanged.
                That was the bet. For a revolution.

                In general, no one was ready to fight! They thought that the Armed Forces of Ukraine would lay down their arms or take power, and then negotiations with them.
              2. -1
                5 October 2022 20: 59
                Was she preparing to fight with NATO, or are all tryndeli that they are preparing to fight with NATO? These two concepts are far from identical.
      3. 0
        4 October 2022 19: 38
        Quote from: filibuster
        This is a game in both directions, we will begin to take out the rear, Ukraine will be supplied with weapons with which it will reach our infrastructure.

        It is better to endure before it reaches than after.
        Yes, and this will save the lives of not only our guys, but also Ukrainian ones.
    2. -3
      4 October 2022 19: 43
      We can’t! The West is keenly watching that no matter what is violated, and China does not help. An honest war should be in Ukraine on both sides. Everything was calculated by England USA Poland Pentagon, Brussels 3 years ago
  17. Eug
    +5
    4 October 2022 17: 00
    100% - Zelensky is being created a "strong negotiating position." Who? SVO leadership..
    1. 0
      4 October 2022 19: 40
      Quote: Eug
      100% - Zelensky is being created a "strong negotiating position." Who? SVO leadership..

      Leadership leadership SVO!
  18. 0
    4 October 2022 17: 01
    Where, after all, are SMERSH and counterintelligence, or are they also engaged in business? fellow
    1. -1
      5 October 2022 21: 02
      Even if now a certain SMERSH is created, even with this name, in reality it will be a business structure specializing in raider seizures and racketeering.
      1. 0
        6 October 2022 12: 34
        With your attitude to reality, you would strangle yourself not to see anything.
  19. +10
    4 October 2022 17: 02
    The main thing is that our generals do not have the idea to fill the gaps with the corpses of the mobilized! And it’s not clear why, seeing the developing situation, they didn’t start mobilization 3 months ago, everything would be easier at least with winter uniforms! Or the shoals were already visible at the beginning of the summer, but now they simply have not been eliminated!
  20. +11
    4 October 2022 17: 03
    See who is helping Ukraine and how. Everything is meticulously painted and counted, in pieces, tons, sets, everything down to toilet paper rolls. And only there is not a single mention of the cube. meters, tons, liters and kWh. I mean energy carriers. After all, all the weapons that the West supplies to Ukraine must be driven, flown, and repaired. But, there is no complete silence. It seems that a gas-oil well was dug near Kyiv, and electric energy is brought in by trunks of Ukrainian shuttles.
    "Ukraine again buys electricity from Russia: how much and why?
    On February 1, Ukrainian companies again began to import electricity from Russia. Why is this happening and what consequences can it have for the Ukrainian energy system, DW found out
    Subsequently, the National Commission for State Regulation in the Spheres of Energy and Public Utilities (NKREKP), by its resolution, banned the import of electricity from Russia and Belarus. This happened on April 8, 2020. However, as of January 1, 2021, there are no longer any legal grounds for restrictions on the import/export of electricity. As a result, Ukrainian companies started buying electricity in Belarus in January, and in Russia in February.
    Electricity from Russia costs $55-56 per MWh (1,32-1,38 hryvnias per kWh) for Ukraine, while electricity from the EU costs three to four times more.
    Ukraine proudly announces that it has refused this and that from Russia, but it is silent about energy carriers. Well, if electricity is more or less transparent (possible supplies from the European Union), then what about fuel? Mobile groups of the Armed Forces of Ukraine are moving on something, which arranged for the allied forces to "withdraw to the planned positions."
    Maybe Russia's problems are not only in stupid generals, but also in the fact that some of the talented and energetic seem to have risen very well in the last seven months on the Forbos lists.
  21. +6
    4 October 2022 17: 05
    Why do they have a multiple numerical advantage??? Why did they mobilize everyone and build up the army to 700000 people. So they are defending their homeland, but why are we not defending ours??? Kherson Zaporozhye is Russia, so where is our Russian army? Or is it all a bluff about the second army of the world.
    1. -14
      4 October 2022 17: 13
      Calmly, everything will be in spite of the cold shower, our Motherland will win, but not at a small price, but probably will win again.
      1. -1
        4 October 2022 22: 01
        Again 41-45, which I don’t really want, maybe after all the general staff will come to their senses?
    2. Is2
      +4
      4 October 2022 17: 16
      You're right. Where our big army Shoigu and the General Staff stole the money
    3. SSA
      -3
      4 October 2022 18: 55
      Because the whole army is not involved. Conscripts don't fight. 1/5 of the army is fighting.
    4. -4
      4 October 2022 19: 53
      There is one thought! What to send in troops when there will be 50% of something bled. Now we have only achieved parity with Ukraine in terms of the remnants of weapons. Numbers with those that will not get a second time to the front
    5. +1
      4 October 2022 21: 21
      They're downvoted right now, but I'll write anyway.
      More than 30 years have passed since the collapse of the Soviet Union.
      A new generation of citizens of the new Russia has grown up. What do you think, those who are now under 30 (well, most) really need all this? Kherson, Zaporozhye is not a home for the younger generation.
  22. -1
    4 October 2022 17: 06
    It is necessary to start the evacuation of Kherson in order to avoid civilian casualties, because. it is already understood that the army will continue to retreat. The remnants of the defeated army are no longer capable of anything.
    1. +2
      4 October 2022 17: 17
      The meanings of half-measures are incomprehensible. Either the operation continues or is curtailed. That is - either victory or capitulation.
      And we observe half-heartedness in everything. Some dumb action. It's just impossible to understand them.
      Providing yourself with a three to five times smaller number of troops and then presenting this as an excuse is a good way out. Only the question arises - it means that the task was this: to make the Ukrainian army strong, and the Russian one weak.
      And this is "Glory to Ukraine" - primarily an anti-Russian slogan. And in my opinion, the leadership of Russia ensured the erection of Ukrainian nationalism on a pedestal. And people are just tokens.
      1. +1
        4 October 2022 18: 23
        Rolling is no longer possible. Either complete surrender, which would mean the disappearance of the country, or complete victory. Here the third is not given and will not be given.
        1. -1
          4 October 2022 18: 27
          And I also wrote folding = capitulation. Since we understand this here, then the big uncles should definitely understand this too. It's just interesting - nothing happens, everything continues in some kind of surrealism. Everything is more interesting every day. More and more gesture.
          1. 0
            4 October 2022 18: 32
            And does it happen in one minute? We have eeeeestoooons in our leadership. Until it reaches them what threatens them, then they will stir. Well, they are not Barry Allen at all, but tortillas at best. I repeat - at best. And so - a piece of log, floating with the flow.
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    2. +2
      4 October 2022 18: 05
      if you don’t give a damn about the army, then they don’t give a damn about the inhabitants of Kherson, no one will do the evacuation
  23. 0
    4 October 2022 17: 07
    That's not a prediction if it is already happening.
  24. +4
    4 October 2022 17: 07
    the more defeats at the front, the more tense the situation in society;
  25. -2
    4 October 2022 17: 09
    This would be a major defeat for Russia, because it further pushes back Russia's ambitions to capture Odessa
    Our ambitions have always been limitless, but Odessa is geographically closer to the Russian Federation than to the United States. There is a rhetorical question, who before? feel
    1. 0
      5 October 2022 02: 03
      Geographically closer are Sumy, Chernihiv and Kharkiv. Odessa will still be far away.
  26. -16
    4 October 2022 17: 13
    I'm thinking, what if dill is specially lured into a trap? Dill with victorious cries rush into battle, thinking that they have already won, and there they are actively clapped!
    I hope so.
    1. -4
      4 October 2022 17: 43
      I’ve been hearing this for a month now, and there’s a trap under Balakleya, and a trap in Liman, the front is still moving towards my house, which doesn’t please, and even saddens, there are questions for the leadership, and the most important thing is why they didn’t start mobilization in May-June-July ? where are all those tens of thousands of volunteers who went to the front? if the active units sit on the front for half a year without rotation, in general, it is necessary to announce the VP, and mobilization is mobilization, otherwise we will lose
    2. 0
      4 October 2022 19: 32
      And with them Chekhov-Hungarians-Belofinov and Croats and Romanians, as it is sung in folklore.
    3. -2
      4 October 2022 21: 58
      What a vegetable trap, stupidly everything is lost. So it’s more convenient for someone. Adidas rules. I
  27. -7
    4 October 2022 17: 15
    A couple of months ago, this would have smiled, but now ... I hope that the lessons are learned and the homework is done by 5
    1. 0
      4 October 2022 19: 50
      Quote from Buyan
      I hope that the lessons are learned and the homework is done by 5

      I would also like to understand who gives these homework assignments and controls their implementation.
  28. -3
    4 October 2022 17: 16
    There is no doubt about that, unfortunately.
  29. +5
    4 October 2022 17: 16
    The Armed Forces of Ukraine can afford to attack. Now the advantage in forces in the NVO zone is clearly not with the RF Armed Forces. This is the result of 7 months of passive waiting. If we deny mobilization to the last, then it was possible to make 3 monthly fees for reservists - no one interfered. Also, the Armed Forces of Ukraine did not particularly interfere with establishing communications, control and intelligence. The production of mastered UAVs was not scaled up. List for a long time.
  30. +14
    4 October 2022 17: 16
    The fact that no one would storm Odessa was clear four months ago .. Only stubborn hat throwers, after the "successes" of the Red Banner Black Sea Fleet in disabling their own combat units, could think that a landing from the sea was possible in Odessa ..
  31. +3
    4 October 2022 17: 17
    Quote from: filibuster
    To be honest, I don’t understand the surprise of the commentators about what is happening, if the NVO had gone exclusively between Russia and Ukraine, then it would probably have ended in March-April. But Western assistance has not only leveled all our advantage, it also gives Ukraine a technological advantage in reconnaissance and precision strikes.
    That's all, the situation is somewhat similar to the last Armenian-Azerbaijani conflict, when one side had a technological advantage (in addition to problems with support, command, etc.) This advantage can only be compensated by increasing the number of troops by several times, increasing the grouping to 2-3 million people, only here the question is whether the Russian economy can cope.

    Have you tried rereading what you wrote? You give the thesis that in modern warfare the main technical equipment and immediately give out a prescription for treatment - to increase the number of infantry?
    1. +1
      5 October 2022 00: 34
      Physical people. Well, it won't replace 10 cameras of one security guard in a supermarket. Help - yes, but replace - no
  32. +1
    4 October 2022 17: 18
    Well, the MO crap so crap that you can see the generalissimo in skirts are worth it to shit Russia and surrender Russian patriotism to enemies.
  33. -3
    4 October 2022 17: 18
    Quote: Pulkovo1942
    when the Ukrainians occupy the Kherson and Zaporozhye regions, this will become the subject of bargaining for the Donetsk and Luhansk regions.

    And what then was the point of annexing these regions to Russia?

    And what was the point of starting an NWO if it was not clear what kind of mess was going on in the troops and in the command? That's how it started!
  34. +1
    4 October 2022 17: 18
    Quote: opuonmed
    maybe it's time for the Russian Federation to strike at the rear of the infrastructure and in Kyiv and in all cities metadically on the SBU on the structure of power, etc., etc.? maybe it's enough to be masochists already?

    And there is nothing to apply, everything is simple.
  35. 0
    4 October 2022 17: 22
    Quote: Dmitry Potapov
    The main thing is that our generals do not have the idea to fill the gaps with the corpses of the mobilized !!
    And how do you order if they have satellite-guided MLRS, there is no cover from total surveillance of troops in the field, they prefer not by area, but by places where they know that someone is
  36. +5
    4 October 2022 17: 26
    Since the Americans are still in charge of the Kremlin, what big victories can we talk about?
  37. -3
    4 October 2022 17: 28
    ! ️
  38. -4
    4 October 2022 17: 30
    Why are our "favorite" first media channels silent? Until they turn on Swan Lake on all channels, there is hope. We wait.
  39. +1
    4 October 2022 17: 31
    Somehow, she already believes more than MO. It seems to me that the leadership of the Defense Ministry turned out to have billions of dollars worth of property (palaces, accounts) frozen abroad, which were stolen during the "modernization of the army" (now we see that this modernization was just a fiction for theft). And in order to save this property, they are now draining everything at the behest of the West. Apparently, the task is to destroy the maximum military potential of Russia (hence the transfer of equipment to the enemy during the retreat).
    Now the mobilized, the first wave, will be thrown to the slaughter, but the second and third waves will also be required, since most people have neither motivation nor equipment for war at all. And the West will be glad to grind as many Russians as possible, otherwise the covid somehow coped poorly.
    Note that Western Ukraine is practically not touched, although military aid echelons pass through it, new forces are being accumulated and prepared there. Bridges, railways, airfields - everything is safe and sound.
    In a good way, for a blitzkrieg to Ukraine on February 24, it was necessary to introduce an army of at least 1 million people, but the operation was doomed to failure in advance. 90% of the territory of Ukraine was occupied in the first weeks, and after that, basically only retreat takes place. First, they left the Kyiv and Chernigov regions, it seemed that these forces would strengthen the front in the southeast in order to continue the offensive there, but even this was not enough.
    It seems that the time for negotiations has been lost and several new waves of mobilization are ahead of us, and then when all the people lie down / scatter, they will bang tactical nuclear weapons and unleash a nuclear war.
  40. -2
    4 October 2022 17: 31
    Quote: Vincent Price
    Or maybe this is generally one big multi-way to drain you know who.

    Don't complicate. For such purposes, multipaths are not needed.
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  42. 0
    4 October 2022 17: 38
    and the equipment gathered an hour before the onset?
  43. +5
    4 October 2022 17: 39
    For the sake of interest, I looked at today's MO summary, such stoic calmness can only be envied, their impenetrable indifference is stronger than Hulk's underpants
    1. -3
      4 October 2022 17: 58
      Quote: Quinto
      For the sake of interest, I looked at today's MO summary, such stoic calmness can only be envied, their impenetrable indifference is stronger than Hulk's underpants

      It is much more interesting to watch how our couch professionals "rush around".
      Now the stage is "Chief, everything is gone - the plaster is being removed, the client is leaving"
      1. +1
        4 October 2022 19: 09
        Yes, all extremes are bad, and frank alarmism and hatred are equally harmful .... Therefore, I would like to wish a cold mind and steel testicles to all of us, both on the rear sofas and in the wet trenches.
        1. -2
          4 October 2022 19: 53
          That's right. Intermediate results are built on tactical mistakes or achievements, amateurism or professionalism of individual participants in the process, and, even sometimes, on luck. You can endlessly change the reference points, then it is easy to get away from the path chosen initially.
          In the meantime (in the dry residue):
          1. slowly but surely b / ukraine is losing territory
          2. slowly but surely the attitude of the world community towards US hegemony is changing
          3. Slowly but surely, there is a refusal to pay in $.
          1. 0
            4 October 2022 22: 23
            In the meantime (in the dry residue):
            1. slowly but surely b / ukraine is losing territory

            Can you recall what territories Ukraine has been losing since July, except for the Sand taken twenty times and a couple of streets on the outskirts of Artemovsk?
            1. 0
              4 October 2022 22: 47
              And you take a reference point at the beginning and at the end. Not the one that came to mind.
              And the beginning, as you know, is February 24.02.2022, XNUMX.

              Are you still dreaming of a parade in Sevastopol?
              1. +1
                4 October 2022 23: 43
                Quote: Olga
                And you take a reference point at the beginning and at the end. Not the one that came to mind.
                And the beginning, as you know, is February 24.02.2022, XNUMX.


                From February 24.02 to March 29.03, we occupied the nth territory of Ukraine. Then they made a "gesture of goodwill and reduced this territory by a third. Then, with the great genius of our commanders, they stumbled into the ONLY seriously fortified place in Ukraine and there, in three months of fighting, they were able to occupy the rest of the LPR, which was under the Ukrainians.

                From July, the front freezes, and in September it crumbles from our side, and in such a way that half of the territories occupied by us during the NWO remained under our control. And the stabilization of the front is still very far away, judging by the opinion of everyone who is more or less versed in the situation, except for Konoshenkov.

                And after that, a certain hat thrower comes and broadcasts about "Ukraine is losing its territories." I absolutely DO NOT equate the Armed Forces of the RS and the Wehrmacht, but yours is like the statements of some Volkischer Beobachter in! 943 "The USSR is losing its territories, count not from May 1, 1943, but from June 22, 1941." The quality of optimism is identical.

                Quote: Olga

                Are you still dreaming of a parade in Sevastopol?

                I believe that no matter how the hostilities turn, Russia must definitely keep Crimea and Sevastopol and achieve recognition of them as Russian regions in peace conditions.
                1. -1
                  5 October 2022 07: 41
                  If I tell you that there will be many more local defeats and victories, will I really surprise you?
                  1. +1
                    5 October 2022 11: 36
                    Quote: Olga
                    If I tell you that there will be many more local defeats and victories, will I really surprise you?


                    You will surprise me if you stop hating and start telling the truth - when we advance, say that Ukraine is losing territories, when we retreat, say that Ukraine is occupying territories.
                    1. -1
                      5 October 2022 11: 58
                      Can you clarify exactly where you saw in my comments "hawking"?

                      And, if, indeed, your imagination saw this, please, at the same time, explain what is your understanding of "hatting" and how does it differ from a statement of fact?
                      1. 0
                        5 October 2022 23: 12
                        Quote: Olga
                        In the meantime (in the dry residue):
                        1. slowly but surely b / ukraine is losing territory

                        Here is this - shapkozakidatelstvo. because now Ukraine is not losing, but is reclaiming the lost territories. and to deny it is to work for Ukraine, assuring that "everything is going according to plan"
                      2. 0
                        6 October 2022 08: 26
                        You take dates for fixing the result arbitrarily.
                        Apparently, that's why they didn't answer the second part of the question:
                        please, at the same time, explain what is your understanding of "hatting" and how does it differ from a statement of fact?
                        I think if you answer, you will understand what I mean.

                        assuring that "everything is going according to plan"
                        where did you see such a statement in my comments? Apparently, you are one of those who like to think and speak for others.
                        and to deny it is to work for Ukraine,
                        to work for used Ukraine is to sow panic in the first place. What you are doing, perhaps on purpose.
                      3. 0
                        7 October 2022 16: 08
                        hatred lies in the fact that you assure that "Ukraine is losing land," while the process of Ukrainian reconquista is in full swing.

                        and when they point out to you that since a certain period the process of losing land by Ukraine has reversed, you start shouting that it is necessary to count from the beginning of the NWO. so Stalin in 1941 also had to consider, in your opinion, from September 17, 1939, when the USSR moved west, not from June 22, 1941, and tell while our troops were fighting near Smolensk that "the bourgeois world is losing territory."

                        if people panic at the fact that we are going through a period of serious defeats, then such people. a normal citizen does not panic in such situations
  44. -5
    4 October 2022 17: 39
    About bridges across the Dnieper, can you remind some buildings in the center of Kyiv? laughing
  45. +3
    4 October 2022 17: 42
    I just don't understand what is going on. Ukraine has already simply been flooded and is being flooded with manual anti-tank / anti-aircraft weapons.
    And this minimizes the advantage of the RF Armed Forces in army aviation and armored vehicles.
    Neither tanks, nor helicopters, nor attack aircraft are protected from this.
    All these ATGMs and MANPADS are very modern and in large numbers.

    What's next ? Modern air defense systems, aviation, tanks, next batches of Himars.
    I have no idea how the mobilized will resist this.
    1. +4
      4 October 2022 18: 08
      infantry with machine guns, only this remains
  46. -7
    4 October 2022 17: 46
    But I think that this is the penultimate decisive and full-blooded offensive with all my might. The latter will be either under Kukuev or Odessa. Well, simply because of the fact that it is still necessary to catch and train the mouse, plus the equipment and bk to snoop in the right surroundings. And this is the time, and it’s not strange for meatballs that meatballs are needed, and not all sorts of Svens and steves. Well, a non-enlightened European will go to die en masse for a country that he won’t even find on the map without poking his nose? And the mice then decrease and some yak cockroaches scatter. And PMCs cannot massively fight against a regular and very evil army.
    1. -1
      4 October 2022 19: 36
      Can you imagine the Romanian or Bulgarian hinterland, and even the Lapon Finn for example? They are hungry greedy animals. What about migrants? They go wall. Time is an irreplaceable resource.
  47. 0
    4 October 2022 17: 47
    Quote from: filibuster
    To be honest, I don’t understand the surprise of the commentators about what is happening, if the NVO had gone exclusively between Russia and Ukraine, then it would probably have ended in March-April. But Western assistance has not only leveled all our advantage, it also gives Ukraine a technological advantage in reconnaissance and precision strikes.

    You are considering NWO from a purely military point of view. And there is not much of this component, the rest is not even pure politics and economics, but undercover contacts, plans and actions. In order to resolve the issue of Ukraine immediately and completely, a powerful military strike was needed. It would side by side solve a lot of secondary problems. And in terms of economy and prestige and authority, etc. In any case, for 3-4 years it would have discouraged those who wish in the West from exotic actions like turning off the swift or blowing up gas pipelines and arresting the gold reserves ..
    1. 0
      4 October 2022 20: 41
      You don't need any blows, it was enough to buy them all. The Americans bought Alaska, California and so on.
      No, Medvedchuk, of course it's worth it:
      he's like Leonard Euler for Catherine the 2nd!!!!
      such a valuable purchase.
      1. +2
        4 October 2022 20: 57
        Of course you are joking. Western partners are already well wedged into our real assets as shareholders and sit on the boards of directors and they were not at all offended by annual dividends. And for many enterprises they have become simply owners. Buy? This move has been known for a long time. We do not have a currency printing press, and if there was an auction for the purchase of Ukrainian politicians and oligarchs, then we would not have a chance.
        In short, there were attempts before, but "there is no money, but you hold on"
        1. 0
          5 October 2022 08: 53
          This move has been known for a long time.

          well, "whoever has dinner with a girl, he dances her";
          but you can do it, of course: "if you don't like it - be patient, my beauty")), as it turned out, from an impotent rapist: as a result, a fight with a company from a nearby table. okay, let the company of gays laughing laughing
          1. +1
            5 October 2022 09: 29
            When the financial and economic arguments run out, they start a war. The history of the world shows that with a successful outcome, 90% of problems and disputes are resolved. Put a chessboard on the opponent's head. Only it is necessary to do it quickly, and not to stagnate in front of each village.
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              5 October 2022 11: 38
              Quote: Former soldier
              with a successful outcome, 90% is solved

              you are absolutely right:
              play poker - a wonderful game!
  48. -2
    4 October 2022 17: 49
    According to the American magazine Defense News, this statement was made by Assistant Secretary of Defense for International Affairs Celeste Wallander.

    Wallander received her bachelor's degree in political science with honors from Northwestern University in 1983. She received her MA (1985), MA (1986) and PhD (1990) degrees in political science from Yale University.[3]

    does it really make sense to discuss what the philologist said on the topic of conducting military operations?
    1. +5
      4 October 2022 18: 06
      It is customary for the Americans to dilute the army with "jackets" so that the warriors do not develop caste. For every "Westpointer" there is a "Yelsk" who does not owe anything to anyone and brings his opinion to competent persons
      1. -1
        4 October 2022 18: 14
        I understand everything, but I am not interested in the opinion of a philologist on the topic of army problems, just as not interested in the opinion of a physicist on the topic of veterinary medicine
        1. -2
          4 October 2022 20: 25
          “Yes, it doesn’t matter to me which front, my job is to cut.”
          Budyonny ©
          That's right!
        2. 0
          5 October 2022 12: 55
          E no. From a philologist, there really is no military, but from a physics, a veterinarian is easy - the same hoses, levers, cables to maintain pressure, etc., the mechanism is shorter. I watched the work of 2 resuscitators on the outgoing person. Saved like. And tools and devices like a plumber-electrician. Yes, more. From the chairmen of collective farms in the Second World War, good commanders were obtained up to the level of a battalion. War is work, and a military or economic intelligence either exists or it does not exist in a person.
    2. -1
      4 October 2022 22: 26
      A political scientist needs philology to read foreign documents in their original languages. Without it, it is difficult, since it is not known in advance which language will need to be mastered in a particular case - this is not translation studies with a maximum of several languages ​​being studied. A philologist or linguist masters any living or extinct language of the planet in his work. Often historians study philology or linguistics to work with documentation. Well, political science is needed by a practicing politician.
      1. 0
        4 October 2022 22: 52
        Excuse me, did you understand what you wrote?!
        Philology and knowledge of foreign languages ​​are not the same
        1. 0
          5 October 2022 00: 45
          Somehow they missed it - Doctor of Philosophy (1990). Theorist-ideologist, everything should be in order with logic
        2. 0
          5 October 2022 06: 54
          Knowledge of languages ​​is everyday, for example.
          And philology is about the same as the academic theory of music for musicians - who owns it is no longer a self-taught musician and is able to understand any music on the planet.
          This is just an example of a politician who was not satisfied with spontaneous or basic self-education, but picked up the necessary educational tools for his main activity.
          Therefore, all sorts of "revolutions" are successful for Americans around the world - professionals who love their job work.
          1. +1
            5 October 2022 07: 25
            Quote: ycuce234-san
            are professionals who love what they do.

            are you talking about the philosopher-philologist in charge of the army?
            1. 0
              5 October 2022 19: 37
              At a minimum, having the position of Assistant Minister of Defense for International Affairs in the Ministry of Defense, one can prepare and propose draft acts of surrender, charters and treaties of defense unions, constitutions, and thereby influence both one’s own army and foreign armies and countries. Philologists like this run the US Army well, which is well known, despite the fact that it has problems like fleas.
              Madame, by the way, specializes in scientific and political research on Russia - earlier it was called "linguistic Sovietology".
    3. -1
      5 October 2022 21: 08
      does it really make sense to discuss what the philologist said on the topic of conducting military operations?

      Well, what does Shoigu, a builder by education, say, are they discussing?
  49. +1
    4 October 2022 17: 49
    everything is going according to plan ..... where is the best minister-reindeer herder and adherent of network-centric wars Gerasimov now planning to regroup? the generals are no longer through one, but all in a crowd, you need to shoot well, or wash off the trench with blood .....
  50. 0
    4 October 2022 17: 50
    So far, our military has nothing to boast of ....... The issue of the Antonovsky bridge and transit through it will be closed only with inaccessibility to it by artillery and MLRS .... This requires attacking actions.
    1. +3
      4 October 2022 18: 18
      And it's not so easy if Ukraine starts hitting this bridge with ATACMS missiles with a range of 300 km.
      This is how the front line will have to be moved away from him, which is neither theoretically nor politically possible - a grain deal.
      1. 0
        4 October 2022 19: 37
        These are different things .... It's one thing when howitzers and MLRS work on an object .... Another single OTRK ...... There have been points in Ukraine for a long time ....
        1. 0
          5 October 2022 09: 00
          Quote: Zaurbek
          There are points in Ukraine for a long time ....

          they - "do not eat" - but they are now produced there ... hence the number
  51. -2
    4 October 2022 18: 03
    Everyone has happy faces... Why not be happy, the strategy is bearing fruit
    1. 0
      4 October 2022 20: 02
      Quote from Gorygor
      Everyone has happy faces... Why not be happy, the strategy is bearing fruit

      When signing documents with the republics and regions in the Kremlin, it seemed to me that there were only two “happy faces” in the hall: Medvedev and Kiriyenko.
      1. 0
        4 October 2022 22: 44
        I'm talking about the American faces in the photo in the article
  52. +2
    4 October 2022 18: 05
    From the site "Russian Spring"
    The enemy is advancing in the Kherson direction. The Ukrainian Armed Forces entered Davydov Brod and Staroselye, where the first line of defense of our troops in the Kherson region was located, the front is rolling back.
    In these settlements there are crossings across the Ingulets River. There were fierce battles for the section of the front along the river for two months, ours tried to keep the enemy at a natural water barrier.
    Now, together with the breakthrough of the Ukrainian Armed Forces along the Dnieper and the capture of Dudchan, our army is leaving its positions along the Ingulets. The front is rolling back south towards Kherson.

    Source: https://rusvesna.su/news/1664884729
  53. +6
    4 October 2022 18: 22
    An interesting autumn of 2022 is planned. Russian troops are retreating from the Ukrainian Armed Forces so as not to be destroyed, and at this time those subject to mobilization are fleeing Russia and also do not want to be destroyed in Ukraine.
    Only the Russian political and military elite are doing great. Some are celebrating the annexation of regions whose territory is now being captured by the Ukrainian Armed Forces at an accelerated pace, while others are euphoric that they have now managed to recruit more than 200 thousand civilians who can be asked to fight against the Ukrainian Armed Forces.
    They will definitely win, and attacks on infrastructure will help the Ukrainian Armed Forces to capture Kherson before November.
    So, in less than a month, the Russian defense in the Kharkov, Donetsk, Kherson-Nikolaev direction has completely collapsed. Next in line is the collapse of the defense in the Zaporozhye direction and the seizure by Ukraine
    ZNPP. Then Ukraine will have a dirty bomb, blackmail Russia and use it on Russian territory.

    The picture that emerges, although gloomy, is at least honest and without pink snot (that they say we will retreat now and then we will drive the ukrov back).
    1. +3
      4 October 2022 18: 27
      It's like the first time. We are not looking for easy ways. Even at Damansky, only the courage of the commander, who took responsibility for using new weapons, decided the outcome of the confrontation. But if he had not decided, the Chinese would have been trampled like locusts and it is not known how many victims there would have been.
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    1. +6
      4 October 2022 19: 46
      able to take responsibility and tell the truth, even to the Supreme....

      The Supreme Commander fires him for a bad report. Doesn't fire you for defeats
  55. -4
    4 October 2022 18: 41
    This Celeste is also a “fortune teller”!!! ))) Especially considering the fact that she did not receive any education in the field of the military at all!!! )))
    1. 0
      5 October 2022 19: 27
      Well, yes, the poor fellow has no military education. Unlike our Minister of Defense. And the Supreme.
  56. -4
    4 October 2022 18: 59
    Maneuvers in one word. Ukrainians put people behind every village without foreseeable prospects, but for likes. We are simulating military operations with the help of volunteer battalions and the sluggish dispersal of Ukrainians remotely/selectively with artillery and aviation. Elon Musk pulled himself together, apparently everyone was going to come to an agreement.
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  58. +3
    4 October 2022 19: 35
    We need to think about how to keep Crimea, and not about Kherson.
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  60. +1
    4 October 2022 19: 41
    Quote: dmi.pris
    The thing is that people at the top must understand that they have nowhere to run. Neither to London, nor to Berlin, nor anywhere else. They are not Gorbachev Berezovsky, Abramovichs. They are entirely tied to the fate of the country. including them

    There is one problem, although we were told that there is no choice, but in general, only the dead have no choice; the living always have it, so that’s not a fact.
  61. +3
    4 October 2022 19: 42
    Guys! Or maybe it’s time to squash the internal enemy first, and then take on the external one? I don’t understand anything anymore what’s happening!
    1. -2
      4 October 2022 20: 32
      When talking about the internal enemy, who do you mean?
  62. +6
    4 October 2022 19: 46
    Quote from nordscout
    able to take responsibility and tell the truth, even to the Supreme....

    It’s amazing, you are repeating Gapon’s sermon, remember January 9, there Gapon also said that the Tsar’s nobles were deceiving him, this is some kind of Russian trend, calm down, he knows everything.
  63. +8
    4 October 2022 20: 02
    The question is - where did the military equipment of the Russian Armed Forces go? Why are old equipment removed from storage and export ones wrapped in SVO? Where is the standard equipment of the RF Armed Forces and Aerospace Forces?

    This suggests some very bad conclusions - in the Northern Military District, the loss of military equipment is INCREDIBLE.
    Hence the second question - who is demithalizing whom?
  64. -6
    4 October 2022 20: 03
    How great it is to write comments on winning articles! However, there are not only victories, but also defeats. Dialectics, her mother...
    And still. Given the length of the LBS border, the initial number of troops was sufficient for the development of offensive actions. And then something indecent began: gestures of goodwill, withdrawal of troops from here and there... Although, initially our General Staff stated (and demonstrated) that no negotiations would affect the work of the Army. And that was right. Until the ink on the documents dried, it was necessary to push and push, especially since there was a basis and opportunities for this (against the background of which it was possible to organize mobilization, as before Afghanistan - quiet, but effective).
    I am not a military leader (this recognition gives ample opportunities to organize a championship of throwing slippers, but it is true), but I look at the development of events not as an optimist, but as a realist. So, from the point of view of realism, our offensive courage has temporarily faded, but new opportunities are opening up: to wear down and grind down the forces opposing us. The enemy's forces and means today are qualitatively (and quantitatively) in a more motivated state (oh, ideology, where are you now?), and therefore it is more difficult for us. But this is a matter of short time. The offensive potential of the Armed Forces of Ukraine (which includes the Poles and other blacks and Romanians) is still high, but that’s it for now. To turn the situation around, it is necessary to take measures to develop impeccable interaction between units in each specific sector of defense. And that's all. True, behind this “and that’s all” lies a lot of time and effort. For now, we have just enough of both. This is where the difficulties come from.
    Despite all of the above, I think that in the very near future the situation will change, because the fighting will take on a different character: sponsors will significantly reduce the size of the feeder for the Armed Forces of Ukraine (because “Winter is coming”, and you will have to negotiate with Russia if you don’t want turn into a frozen stalk) and shouting that “The Tyrant has gone completely nuts”, they will not do anything to win the ukrovoyaks.
    You have to wait a month or two. But there we will see how it turns out.
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  66. 0
    4 October 2022 23: 18
    "Don't tell Gop!
    Until you jump over!


    There is such a Russian proverb!
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  68. -1
    5 October 2022 01: 54
    Wallander stated.
    Oh well. You can immediately see she is strong and independent. Let's see.
  69. -1
    5 October 2022 03: 50
    At this rate, urofascists from NATO will come out near Voronezh in a year, or they will finish shooting with khimars
  70. 0
    5 October 2022 05: 48
    If in the steppe successes are explained by “superiority in numbers and quantity of equipment,” then these armies fight at the Tatar-Mongol level, hand-to-hand. The state of the Russian army is very sad.
  71. 0
    5 October 2022 08: 59
    and in which direction is the situation “not difficult”?
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  73. 0
    5 October 2022 10: 18
    In this case, you don’t need to be a genius; it’s already obvious to everyone that sooner or later they will cut off the Kherson group from the main forces, because it is deeply wedged into the territory of Ukraine, with its rear completely covered by fire, and is also partially located on the other side of the Dnieper. As soon as the Ukrainians bring up NASAMS in sufficient numbers and strength for three groups, including Excaliburs and Highmars, they will strike between Melitopol and Mariupol, after which they will cut off the supply to Crimea across the bridge, and “Hasta la vista, baby” will happen. The comment is my personal opinion...
  74. 0
    5 October 2022 12: 15
    Quote: Misha Honest
    Sales: I don’t know what GDP thinks (and does it think at all)? But all this is HIS complete failure - HE played too much in politics!
    IMHO

    He’s not overplayed, he just doesn’t know how to do anything except smile beautifully and say the “right” words. Although he can do something... . I talked about this in my comments to other articles. sad
  75. 0
    5 October 2022 12: 30
    Quote: Adagka
    everything is going according to plan ..... where is the best minister-reindeer herder and adherent of network-centric wars Gerasimov now planning to regroup? the generals are no longer through one, but all in a crowd, you need to shoot well, or wash off the trench with blood .....

    You forgot one more... . sad
  76. 0
    5 October 2022 12: 35
    Quote: dmi.pris
    The thing is that people at the top must understand that they have nowhere to run. Neither to London, nor to Berlin, nor anywhere else. They are not Gorbachev Berezovsky, Abramovichs. They are entirely tied to the fate of the country. including them

    I'm afraid you are mistaken. For what they have done to the country in 20 years, they will be accepted anywhere, by anyone. hi
  77. -1
    5 October 2022 16: 29
    Only a nuclear missile will stop mad Europe
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  80. -2
    5 October 2022 19: 03
    Everyone spits on the opinion of the Pentagon from the Kremlin towers. All 4 regions are already in Russia. Putin signed the Law. Ukrainians should only run away from this.
  81. 0
    5 October 2022 19: 37
    I apologize for interfering with my opinion, but the situation looks like this:
    1. If there is the will and desire to build a fortified area, lay concrete, target mines, dig trenches and underground passages in the suburbs, and place batteries on the left bank with frequent changes of positions.

    2. Min the roads, pull up the thorns, install surveillance systems with signal transmission and illumination of artillery and aviation from the left bank.

    3. Win artillery duels, shut up their long-range artillery, otherwise Kherson’s supply will be cut off and the city will have to be surrendered.
  82. -1
    6 October 2022 07: 25
    Quote: Alexey Sedykin
    Information about the capture of Duduchan is incorrect.

    Sorry, but proofs, can I? Or is it your way... just?
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  86. 0
    7 October 2022 18: 34
    Well, we weren’t going to fight with numbers, but rather with skill and overwhelming firepower. What has changed? Maybe we don’t have any advantage in this regard, or if we do, it’s insufficient?