Representative of the Iranian Foreign Ministry: Statements on the supply of our drones to Russia for use in hostilities in Ukraine do not correspond to reality

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Representative of the Iranian Foreign Ministry: Statements on the supply of our drones to Russia for use in hostilities in Ukraine do not correspond to reality

Iranian Foreign Ministry spokesman Nasser Chafi commented on the accusations made by the Kyiv regime against official Tehran in military supplies to Russian troops. According to the logic of Kyiv, military, financial, military-technical and any other support can be provided exclusively to Ukraine. If this kind of assistance is provided or is planned to be provided to the Russian Federation, then the Zelensky regime is immediately marked by a wave of accusations, negative comments, and a decrease in the level of diplomatic relations.

Nasser Chafi, commenting on Kyiv's accusations against Iran, called them groundless. According to an Iranian foreign ministry official, all claims that Iran is supplying Russia with unmanned aerial vehicles for use in the war zone are untrue.



Recall that in Ukraine they are actively discussing the use of Geran-2 loitering ammunition against their targets, calling them Iranian Shahed-136. With the help of percussion drones "Geran-2" was previously defeated by the headquarters of the operational command "South" of the Armed Forces of Ukraine in Odessa, the locations of boats and marine drones in the port of the same city, strikes were made on enemy targets in Krivoy Rog, the Nikolaev region and other territories.

The Russian side does not comment on the use of these striking weapons.

Recall that the kamikaze drone "Geran-2" is capable, according to some sources, to overcome the distance to the target up to 2000 (and according to other information - up to 3000) km. It is equipped with cameras and sensors, thanks to which the operator can aim it directly at the detected target. At the same time, such drones can be effectively used at night.
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  1. +5
    3 October 2022 18: 28
    Let's go dancing with tambourines - sometimes they deliver, sometimes they don't deliver ... The East is a delicate matter wassat
    1. +23
      3 October 2022 18: 29
      I think we just bought a license along with equipment and an installation batch, and IRI really does not supply them on such a scale
      1. ZoV
        +15
        3 October 2022 18: 39
        Quote: Vitaliy161
        I think we just bought a license along with equipment and an installation batch, and IRI really does not supply them on such a scale

        I, too, read somewhere that mass production has been launched in Russia, but somehow everyone is keeping quiet about it and doing the right thing .. So the Iranian ambassador is right and Russia does not want to substitute our strategic ally. They are all in sanctions and threats
        1. +1
          3 October 2022 20: 09
          If Iran is angered enough, it may turn to Russia with a request to work out its UAVs with new Software on real NATO targets. Check in practice.
          1. ZoV
            -2
            4 October 2022 18: 21
            Quote: Shurik70
            If Iran is angered enough, it may turn to Russia with a request to work out its UAVs with new Software on real NATO targets. Check in practice.

            It is quite possible this and perhaps they are already experiencing something ..
            I read somewhere, enthusiastic responses in Iran to the successful use of "our" Geraniums.
            But then, like the United States, they installed systems to deal with these UAVs (maybe fake ..).
        2. -2
          3 October 2022 22: 41
          Quote from ZOV
          Russia does not want to set up our strategic ally. They are all in sanctions and threats anyway

          just now the US has bought our strategic ally. They unfreeze their assets
      2. 0
        3 October 2022 18: 43
        About the terrorist attack of the northern stream and much more, the West denies, or shifts everything to the Russian Federation, but Iran cannot, only tell the truth: do you supply UAVs or not to the Russian Federation?
      3. +8
        3 October 2022 18: 45
        That's right. There was a figure of $8 billion paid by Russia to Iran for supposedly "a thousand drones." Separate hotheads even raised a howl: "For 8 million dollars apiece - rip off!" 8 billion dollars for a full production cycle with a line for dozens of drones a day.
        1. +9
          3 October 2022 20: 01
          nonsense .... look at the public debt of Iran to Russia ... most likely part of it was written off.
        2. -2
          4 October 2022 04: 35
          Dozens are very few, you need thousands of them a day.
      4. +8
        3 October 2022 18: 50
        Geranium, by the way, is good for flies)))
        1. +7
          3 October 2022 19: 26
          And those (Geran) b 2 why does it help? Ours are still those jokers in the name of the weapon.
      5. +6
        3 October 2022 19: 46
        ... if so, then this solution is better than just buying a finished product ... the main thing now is to saturate the troops with them as quickly as possible ...
        1. +3
          3 October 2022 19: 53
          well, logic suggests just such a train of thought, just buying drones is good, but taking into account the protests and kipish in Iran, it’s not very reliable, but buying licenses, technologies and equipment as soon as possible (and everything is ready, let’s ) expand production completely, well, and purchase a batch of 1000 pieces for training and testing the application
      6. +2
        3 October 2022 21: 55
        Quote: Vitaliy161
        I think we just bought a license along with equipment and an installation batch, and IRI really does not supply them on such a scale

        And they could sell a batch of 1 - 1,5 thousand pieces. Abkhazia or South Assetia.
      7. 0
        4 October 2022 09: 05
        If so, where does such mass use come from?
    2. +2
      3 October 2022 19: 10
      Quote from Buyan
      Let's go dancing with tambourines - sometimes they deliver, sometimes they don't deliver ... The East is a delicate matter

      This sounds especially funny against the background of the Iranian Mohajer-6 UAV taken out of the water near Odessa with one remaining Qaem-5 guided bomb on the suspension ...)))
      1. +9
        3 October 2022 20: 43
        Quote: svp67
        Quote from Buyan
        Let's go dancing with tambourines - sometimes they deliver, sometimes they don't deliver ... The East is a delicate matter

        This sounds especially funny against the background of the Iranian Mohajer-6 UAV taken out of the water near Odessa with one remaining Qaem-5 guided bomb on the suspension ...)))

        It could have been caught in the Jordan River, and then used for political and provocative purposes against Iran anywhere! Or does someone, after SP-1,2, doubt potential partners? No.
    3. +4
      3 October 2022 19: 23
      American standard Iranian response! And fuck you dig. hi
      1. +8
        3 October 2022 20: 02
        and even Turkish is possible .. how did the Turks say about Bayraktar? "We sold them and now they are not Turkish, but Ukrainian."
    4. +4
      3 October 2022 19: 30
      Quote from Buyan
      Let's go dancing with tambourines - sometimes they deliver, sometimes they don't deliver ... The East is a delicate matter wassat

      That's right, Iran said ... - "Everything is right, everything fits, the baby is not ours!" Well done ... Without any jokes, well done .. Some Americans and Israelis with Bandera, or something to deny everything .. Let's remember Odessa - They burned themselves , the air conditioner exploded, the powder in the test tube at the negrito Amerzsky is generally silent about Israel, like we didn’t shoot down your plane, these are the Syrians ... ...
    5. 0
      3 October 2022 21: 15
      Quote from Buyan
      Let's go dancing with tambourines - sometimes they deliver, sometimes they don't deliver ..

      The scumbags too. They said that the Nord Streams would be destroyed, and after that they "have nothing to do with this" wassat
  2. +6
    3 October 2022 18: 28
    Iranian Foreign Ministry spokesman Nasser Chafi commented on the accusations made by the Kyiv regime against official Tehran in military supplies to Russian troops. According to the logic of Kyiv, military, financial, military-technical and any other support can be provided exclusively to Ukraine. If this kind of assistance is provided or is planned to be provided to the Russian Federation, then the Zelensky regime is immediately marked by a wave of accusations, negative comments, and a decrease in the level of diplomatic relations.

    Yes, spit on ukrov from the big bell tower! And you don't have to justify yourself to them!
    1. +8
      3 October 2022 18: 41
      I don’t understand, what is it - will it become sweeter if they prove that the UAVs are really Iranian? damaging ability or what will fall?
      1. +13
        3 October 2022 18: 47
        They won't prove it. There in Russian "Geran" is written. Don't pry.
      2. -7
        3 October 2022 20: 09
        If they prove it, but Iran can be put under good pressure, and supplies of Geranium can stop as quickly as they began
        1. Egg
          +3
          3 October 2022 22: 31
          Quote: AC130 Ganship
          If they prove it, but Iran can be put under good pressure, and supplies of Geranium can stop as quickly as they began

          The days of needing evidence are long gone. Now another topic is on the agenda, to tear Iran away from Russia, for this no one will put pressure on Iran.
      3. +2
        3 October 2022 22: 27
        I don’t understand, what is it - will it become sweeter if they prove that the UAVs are really Iranian?
        It won't get any better. But they will guess anyway. This is such a national Ukrainian trait, to crap and beg.
      4. 0
        3 October 2022 23: 57
        Iran has been in deep isolation for a long time, they have something to offer on the world market, and if there are factors of choice - to the right or to the left, no one today will say which way they will go ...
        1. -1
          4 October 2022 02: 57
          Quote: AC130 Ganship
          Iran has been in deep isolation for a long time, they have something to offer on the world market, and if there are factors of choice - to the right or to the left, no one today will say which way they will go ...

          In isolation, Iran is doing well. He has already overtaken Russia in drones, created an armored industry. Its aviation industry and transport function normally in the absence of Western spare parts. The Iranians have tasted the delights of political independence and are not going to lose it. While they are waiting only for new sanctions and not the lifting of sanctions from the United States,
          1. 0
            4 October 2022 04: 37
            For Iran, the sale of drones to Russia is a spit compared to the possibility of returning to the world market for the sale of hydrocarbons.
            1. 0
              4 October 2022 11: 39
              Quote: AC130 Ganship
              this is a spit compared to the opportunity to return to the world hydrocarbon sales market.

              It depends on what will be required of him in return. Oil and gas are not endless. Perhaps Iran is better off saving this resource for future generations. In Russia, friendship with the United States for 90% of Russians turned into an economic disaster and the destruction of moral principles. I don't want to go back to a country where the elite currency swindlers, purse-makers, pickpockets and journalists with television men court embassies from the US to Kuwait to offer themselves as foreign agents. In Iran, under the Shah, debauchery and sodomy were worse than in the darkest days of Yeltsin and his clique.
              1. 0
                5 October 2022 01: 22
                The era of hydrocarbons is rapidly passing. Given the current situation, in 5 years Germany, which today (in the sense of yesterday) bought 40% of its gas in the Russian Federation, in 4-5 years will already be able to do without it. Toyota in North America has been selling new developments of cars only Hybrid for 2 years. Others are no longer released. In 30-40 years, no one will need Iranian oil. And now they give almost $ 100 for it
                1. 0
                  5 October 2022 02: 59
                  Quote: AC130 Ganship
                  Toyota in North America has been selling new developments of cars only Hybrid for 2 years.

                  Most of the electricity in the US comes from fossil fuels. Replacing the internal combustion engine with an electric motor does not greatly reduce dependence on oil, gas and coal. I have an introductory 3-phase machine for 80A on an industrial wood-burning stove.
                  1. 0
                    5 October 2022 03: 37
                    Today, filling up a Nissan Leaf sedan on full electric costs $5, and the same size on gasoline - about $65.
                    1. 0
                      5 October 2022 12: 18
                      Quote: AC130 Ganship
                      Today, filling up a Nissan Leaf sedan on full electric costs $5, and the same size on gasoline - about $65.

                      You do not confuse calories with rubles. When refueling a tank, fuel truck drivers and gas station employees take off the margin. And electricity flows through wires and for its performance, a couple of electricians are enough for 2000 residents of the house. In China, it is cheaper to build a plant connected to the power grid than in Russia to simply connect the plant to the power grid, but this does not mean that the schemers from the Chubais team are slower to sign than the Chinese power engineers. On the tank city in 1942, approximately 4000 workers were only chopping wood to heat it. Now, about 10 people probably work in the gas boiler house of such a plant.
                      1. 0
                        5 October 2022 15: 38
                        You measure everything under the same galoshes. Delivery of electricity to many regions (of the world, not the villages of Prostokvashino) costs the same, and often more expensive, than its production
                      2. 0
                        6 October 2022 08: 43
                        Quote: AC130 Ganship
                        Delivery of electricity to many regions (of the world, not the villages of Prostokvashino) costs the same

                        After the power line is built, it just needs a team of electricians to maintain it. Her salary, the cost of replacement parts, the salary from the wire thieves, the salary of the energy toll collectors, that's all the transportation costs.
    2. ZoV
      +4
      3 October 2022 18: 43
      Quote: Sergio_7
      Yes, spit on ukrov from the big bell tower! And you don't have to justify yourself to them!

      Yes, they do not excuse themselves before the Ukrainians, but before their owners .. Iran must be protected as our ally in BV! May they live in peace for now.
  3. -3
    3 October 2022 18: 30
    Quote: Vitaliy161
    I think we just bought a license along with equipment and an installation batch, and IRI really does not supply them on such a scale

    The representative of the Moscow Region is silent about this) relevant departments too. And why are our lancets bad?
    1. +12
      3 October 2022 18: 50
      A completely different niche product. Lancets and Cubes are short-range light dronikade with a small explosive charge. And Shakhidogeran has the range of a cruise missile and the power of a 200-mm high-explosive projectile and can hang in the air for about 10 hours over the battlefield, waiting for a target.
      1. -1
        3 October 2022 21: 08
        Quote: Roma-1977
        And "Shakhidogeran" - has a range of cruise missiles

        Where does it have a range of 2000 km?
        I have doubts about this figure.
        "Geranium" flies along the given coordinates without the control of the operator?
        1. +1
          3 October 2022 23: 43
          The options are different. Guidance by satellite coordinates, Guidance by a heavy drone, guidance by an operator through a television / thermal imaging channel.
          1. 0
            4 October 2022 08: 24
            Quote: Roma-1977
            guidance by the operator on the television / thermal imaging channel

            at a distance of 2000 km
            operator, without the use of a satellite
            This is something new

            meanwhile, these 2000 km appear on foreign resources in relation to the Iranian UAV
            1. +1
              4 October 2022 10: 02
              Such drones fly into the patrol area on their own. In the zone, they themselves cut circles, record thermal activity in pre-assigned interesting sectors and send "sms" to operators if they see something strange / interesting. The operator evaluates and gives a command to kill if the target is contrasting, or in manual mode if the machine does not capture. If the target is stationary, then the coordinates are entered, promptly received from the reconnaissance / gunner. For control at such distances, of course, a satellite is optimal. But even without it, it doesn’t matter - a chain of repeaters, the same drones, is being deployed. You don't need too many of them, because they fly relatively high, direct radio visibility is great.
              1. 0
                4 October 2022 10: 06
                Quote: vadimtt
                The operator evaluates and gives a command to kill if the target is contrasting, or in manual mode if the machine does not capture.

                manual mode at a distance of more than 1000 km without a satellite?
                read the comment with interest +
            2. 0
              4 October 2022 16: 23
              At a distance of 2000 - by satellite, at a distance of 200 km under the control of a heavy drone, and in the near zone to hit moving targets of the "tank" type - thermal imaging guidance by the operator.
              1. 0
                4 October 2022 16: 54
                Quote: Roma-1977
                At a distance of 2000 - by satellite

                Well, what kind of satellites does Iran have?
                1. 0
                  4 October 2022 18: 41
                  I assume that glonass and beidou. Quite enough to hit a target like "Building".
                  1. 0
                    4 October 2022 19: 55
                    Quote: Roma-1977
                    I assume that glonass and beidou. Quite enough to hit a target like "Building".

                    Do you think that Iran is able to control its UAVs using foreign satellites?
                    This is a super task.

                    And we, therefore, are able through GPS.
                    1. 0
                      4 October 2022 22: 04
                      Why govern? Every smartphone has a satellite positioning module. We hammer in the coordinates and release the bird.
    2. -2
      3 October 2022 18: 50
      Mb there are problems with the deployment of mass production? Is the Lancet the same as Kalashnikovsky? and here is a fully purchased license and an assembly line with an initial batch for training in application, such production is unfolding quickly
    3. +3
      3 October 2022 23: 16
      Quote from Buyan
      And why are our lancets bad?

      Everyone is good ... They only fly for 30 minutes .... and the explosive charge is carried as much as 3 kg ...
      And so, of course! -- EAGLES!!! laughing
  4. +2
    3 October 2022 18: 32
    It doesn't really matter where they came from. The main thing is how they showed themselves, dill from the sound of a flying geranium spoils his trousers. And it's very, very good!
  5. +11
    3 October 2022 18: 34
    What Shahed! They also say "Geran" in Russian. So geranium. good
    ps I suggest calling the next model "Elderberry"
    1. ZoV
      -3
      3 October 2022 18: 47
      Quote: Amateur
      What Shahed! They also say "Geran" in Russian. So geranium. good
      ps I suggest calling the next model "Elderberry"

      good hi Or "Vatrushka"!
      1. +2
        3 October 2022 19: 04
        Only "Buzina"
        Elderberry in the garden
        And in Kyiv, uncle

        drinks
      2. +3
        3 October 2022 21: 00
        There is a very good plant called "St. John's wort", in my opinion suitable
  6. +2
    3 October 2022 18: 36
    Interestingly, if you throw this drone from an airplane, from 10 kilometers, it will also fly by a dofiga. A real planning bomb. It is possible to save money on the engine and the EPR will decrease due to the fact that there will be less iron in the design.
    1. +5
      3 October 2022 18: 42
      . if you throw this drone from an airplane, from 10 kilometers


      The drone glider is not designed for this. Fall apart due to aerodynamic loads. If only with AN-2.
      1. +3
        3 October 2022 18: 47
        It is yes, of course. Here you have to "finish" a special version.
    2. +3
      3 October 2022 18: 52
      It is very big. In terms of wingspan. It is inconvenient to mount it either outside the carrier or in the bomb bay.
    3. +1
      4 October 2022 00: 00
      What for? Judging by the declared range, he himself can fly Ukraine far and wide.
      1. 0
        4 October 2022 08: 43
        Well, it is, some fantasy. :-)
        On the other hand, there are also guided bombs, but their range is not very long, modest, I would say. And here, whatever one may say, a flying glider. With a modest quality of 20-30 units from ten km, this will be 200-300 km. flight.
        And the engine is not needed, it will be less noticeable in all respects. Cheaper again.
        But okay, the military knows better.
  7. -11
    3 October 2022 18: 47
    Right now, the US will unfreeze the loot for the Iranians, they will start buying their oil, other resources, and Modi will betray both Russia and the SCO, and all the rest of the CSTO. The loot and the well-being of the Iranians are more important to them (as well as a false entry into the Western world, albeit in the status of under-humans).
    1. +8
      3 October 2022 19: 01
      Well, you have a mess in your head, what does the Prime Minister of India and the Islamic Republic of Iran have to do with it? They decided to show off their minds, and as a result, wash your pants
    2. +3
      3 October 2022 19: 01
      modi will betray
      Modi Narendra is the Prime Minister of India.
  8. +4
    3 October 2022 18: 55
    Well, they don't deliver and don't deliver.
    The main thing is that they continue to fall on the heads of the Nazis.
  9. +1
    3 October 2022 19: 02
    Statements about the supply of our drones to Russia for use in hostilities in Ukraine do not correspond to reality


    - Sarah, you're cheating on me!
    - Not true!
    - You're cheating on me with Abram!
    - So this is completely untrue! request
  10. ASM
    +3
    3 October 2022 19: 19
    Maybe they are right. They sent documentation and engines, and we could make fuselages with stuffing ourselves. And, of course, our assembly. Indeed, why bring aluminum to the Russian Federation when we have a lot of it, and we are rich in explosives.
  11. +1
    3 October 2022 19: 26
    The truth is spoken by the official representative of Iran.
  12. -2
    3 October 2022 19: 32








    According to the report of the Ukrainian military handed over to NATO representatives, the Geran 2 UAV with the NATO name IRN 05 (Iranian Shahid 131) that fell on the territory of the Kharkiv region, the total weight is 135 kg, the width is 180-220 centimeters, the length is 2.6 meters, the mass of the warhead is 15, the flight range is over 600 kilometers
    1. +1
      4 October 2022 01: 24
      When you take a picture of your computer, hide your bookmarks leisure... Pornhub and something else erotic
      1. +1
        4 October 2022 04: 35
        Yes, thanks ☺️ for the advice, but why did you get the idea that this is my computer and my photos? These are photos from the site.
  13. +2
    3 October 2022 19: 36
    Translated into boyish language by the Iranian Foreign Ministry to Zelebobiku: "Who are you? Fuck you ..!"
  14. +2
    3 October 2022 19: 38
    So Geranium is ours. Grandmothers were removed from the windowsills and set up. So be it. The main thing is to sweep the banderva.
  15. -1
    3 October 2022 20: 05
    "Well, fine.
    Tram pam pam "(from k.f. Ordinary miracle)
  16. +1
    3 October 2022 20: 07
    Quote from Buyan
    Let's go dancing with tambourines - sometimes they deliver, sometimes they don't deliver ... The East is a delicate matter wassat

    Most likely the assembly takes place in Russia, the filling is made by the Persians. And given that the xoxls called these drones mopeds, we can say for sure that we don’t produce engines of this type, and we even have to buy Chinese ones for motorbikes. Those. dviglo either China or Iran, that's for sure
    1. +7
      3 October 2022 20: 20
      I don’t know about mopeds, but at a nearby plant that used to produce tank engines, motoblocks with their own engines are riveted. Such crap as these rumblers, and even with the required resource of just a few hours, is easy to do. Of course, we have lost a lot, but not so much. There, it’s probably not even necessary to do heat treatment of parts, and if necessary, then the most primitive ....
  17. 0
    3 October 2022 20: 24
    Iran is no stranger to formally denying the supply of arms and technology to friendly countries / organizations, despite their scale.
    For more than a year now, they have been denying the supply of weapons to the Houthis, who have not only Iranian UAVs, but even Iranian medium-range ballistic missiles have appeared there ..
    1. 0
      3 October 2022 20: 50
      Somewhere in the news it was that the Houthis again aimed at the oil fields with missiles wink
  18. +3
    3 October 2022 20: 43
    But why our authorities will not be concerned about the lowering of the level of diplomatic relations in relation to countries supplying weapons and not only weapons to Ukraine, this is not clear.
  19. 0
    3 October 2022 20: 50
    Perhaps a whole one that fell in the sands was dragged from Syria, dismantled, copied and stamped. Engines can be purchased separately.
  20. +3
    3 October 2022 21: 04
    In commerce, there is the concept of OEM, when a manufacturer makes a product under the customer's brand, with minimal changes... The Chinese love this very much, so they have 100500 brands of smartphones with the same characteristics in a slightly different case... Anyone can order their brand from 1000 units, what did Chubais and his gang in Rusnano use, for example, when they presented tablets for schoolchildren ...
    It may well be the same with Geranium, the most branded electronics there (PRC) and only, the internal combustion engines speak their own Persian, or the same Chinese, and the glider made of fiberglass and epoxy horseradish you recognize where it was glued ...
    About 5 years ago, at one exhibition, "craftsmen" from the Ministry of Emergencies, in all seriousness, passed off as their development the Chinese quadric "Phantom" pasted over in colors and with the emblem of the department ...
    Whether it's good or not, how to look. Judging by the whining from the used about the results of the attacks, such cheating is the lesser of evils, for 30 years hucksters have been raised and not engineers ...
  21. +8
    3 October 2022 21: 27
    hard to find in a dark room, a black cat)
  22. man
    -5
    3 October 2022 21: 50
    Representative of the Iranian Foreign Ministry: Statements on the supply of our drones to Russia for use in hostilities in Ukraine do not correspond to reality
    An alarm bell, Iran is making excuses, which means it believes that Russia has lost ...
  23. +1
    3 October 2022 22: 27
    I believe that it is supplied without Geranium-2 marking, in the form of an assembly kit. Assembly takes place by marking on a stencil))
  24. -1
    3 October 2022 22: 34
    Quote: Flood
    Quote: Roma-1977
    And "Shakhidogeran" - has a range of cruise missiles

    Where does it have a range of 2000 km?
    I have doubts about this figure.
    "Geranium" flies along the given coordinates without the control of the operator?

    And I have - no, no doubt. I have confidence that this is a lie.
    On ALI, the engine for the drone is 38 hp. With. eats 12l / hour, and it is designed for a drone weight up to 90 kg.
    Shakhidogeranium has noticeably more weight and power.
    1. 0
      3 October 2022 23: 40
      I have heard that conventional unpowered gliders can fly hundreds of kilometers. And then there's the engine. The engine is extremely low-power, and the glider has a high lift. Anything can happen.
    2. +1
      3 October 2022 23: 51
      Quote: acetophenon
      On ALI, the engine for the drone is 38 hp. With. eats 12l / hour, and it is designed for a drone weight up to 90 kg.

      This is for a quadrocopter, where power is needed both to create lift and to move, and "Geran" - "Shahid" is essentially a motor glider, it has such power with a margin
  25. +2
    3 October 2022 22: 36
    Excellent trolling. Worthy students have grown up at the Washington regional committee. Our anti-missiles are not directed against Russia, but directed against Iran and Korea. Remember?
  26. 0
    3 October 2022 23: 32
    He is without cameras and cannot be corrected.
  27. -3
    3 October 2022 23: 34
    A play on words and great experience of our "effect managers"

    They put it without a nameplate - that's why they don't deliver it. They applied the paint "Geranium 2" - that's ours.))))
    Import substitution is classical.)))

    Moreover, the PR seems to be huge ... And they launch it according to articles, according to a dozen or so of everything.
  28. 0
    4 October 2022 00: 17
    Quote: Roma-1977
    I have heard that conventional unpowered gliders can fly hundreds of kilometers. And then there's the engine.

    Not that case. The glider flies due to the large area of ​​\uXNUMXb\uXNUMXbwings, in the drone they are small
  29. 0
    4 October 2022 01: 12
    Correctly. Why supply drones when you can transport an OLD factory. And for myself to build two NEW ones with this money.
  30. 0
    4 October 2022 02: 56
    Yes! You can squeal, but where are the groans of support, the pin is out of finding Our troops on the line of contact! ((((
  31. 0
    4 October 2022 10: 47
    Quote: tralflot1832
    And those (Geranium) 2 why does it help?
    Our still those jokers in the name of the weapon.

    With the name - everything is simple: the first number in Iran:
    out of 136 - first digit: 1