partial mobilization. The opinion of a former employee of the military registration and enlistment office

I am surprised at our Russian mentality. Special operation for 2 weeks... For half a year... , Come on, now what really.. How will it go. And where the legs grow from - we can’t figure it out. Then they lived up to mobilization.

frankly

Partial mobilization is a good, necessary thing, but let's be honest.

I wrote more than once or twice (in the comments to some articles) that the army in all its manifestations begins with the draft board. And taking into account modern realities, as it is now fashionable to say, the work of the military registration and enlistment office on mobilization issues is like giving birth to a woman for a child, also in agony and pain.

"Serdyukovshchina" (the struggle of a bribe taker-stool taker with bribes) greatly reduced the qualification level of the structure of military registration and enlistment offices, removing valuable military (and sometimes with combat experience) personnel from there. I know what I am writing about, since I myself fell under this scythe in 2009.

At the moment, the salary of civilian personnel is a little more than a living wage. Maybe the salary of the military commissar is still back and forth, plus a pension, plus a bonus will drip ... Maybe that's enough. But the military commissar alone in the field is not a plowman, women are plowing, whose husbands (God forbid) earn and military pensioners, for whom plus 15 rubles for a pension is not the last thing.

And the turnover in the military registration and enlistment offices ... A separate article should be written, especially about how office uniforms were “recommended” to civilian personnel to wear. For personal money... And people are fleeing from there...

And they come to vacant places in the military enlistment office with mobilization and conscription, mainly students from the stock exchange, since the young men did not give a damn about such a salary, they would rather go in a taxi or waiters, well, supermarkets are also recruiting contingent with pleasure. So think, army generals, how it smells of partial mobilization, and who conducts it, with what quality.

They removed the military from the military registration and enlistment office, and then suddenly, out of the blue, a real delivery, and not a paper one. Former students, semi-military pensioners are dragging the resources of the motherland on their backs.

You can always find the guilty, as in Magadan, for example. It was only necessary to think about this when they cut the military registration and enlistment offices to the living for the sake of their own, still incomprehensible goals.

Saving on defense by cutting back on the capabilities of a fundamental tool of recruiting and mobilization resources, such as the structure of military registration and enlistment offices, is to feed someone else's army with your own meat.

And what will happen next?

This is my subjective opinion, and it may be wrong. From your point of view.

I have the honor.

Comments

[Vladislav 73]

Saving on defense by cutting back on the capabilities of a fundamental tool of recruiting and mobilization resources, such as the structure of military registration and enlistment offices, is to feed someone else's army with your own meat.

And what will happen next?

"A people that does not want to feed its own army will feed someone else's" Napoleon Bonaparte.

[smart ass]

All employees of the military registration and enlistment office must be sent to the front

[Roman1970]

No, it doesn `t need. Everyone is in their place.

[smart ass]

Let them go to war, they took an oath, grandmothers received

[Gvardeetz77]

You still didn’t remember such a magical event as the “re-registration” of citizens in the reserve, and how it was carried out and I think it is being carried out, and this is the basis of the current events. Well, or training with an amplification apparatus and then compensating them for wages and NOT compensating for the losses of the organization that allocated them, and therefore the desire of the leader to participate in this ...

[Serg serg]

In in. For more than 10 years, no one from my military registration and enlistment office has even called me once! Where do I live, family composition, health, etc. Despite the fact that I am a career officer and belong to the first category. Everything was dragged on by the Boers

[KVIRTU]

Excuse me, but why should the military registration and enlistment office run after you?
Became a father of many children, bring a copy of the birth certificate, for health, that is the conclusion.
At the place of residence, you signed on a photocopy of the registration page, you simply forgot.
Regarding the war, if you are not found there, the conversation will not be with the military enlistment office.
(I, too, have been in reserve for 8 years and in 1 category)

[Essex62]

And with whom will the conversation be? And the contractors who pulled off as soon as the shooting began? And half a million, hefty foreheads, without obstacles rolled over the hill? And what about edrosnya, singers with their mouths, majors eating in three throats about night taverns retracting? Don't want to talk to them? And why, forgive the conscripts, or those who have just served, are they not soldiers, not men? An elderly hard worker is responsible for everything, if he did not say where to look for him, to make something with meat. I am becoming more and more convinced that this is the disposal of the remnants of the not loyal Soviet People.

[KVIRTU]

I, it seems, immediately clarified: "in war", i.e. in wartime, and not yours, who, etc. O.

[Essex62]

When the enemy moves into your territory, it is war. And, even partial, mobilization can be declared without war? What does the law say about it?
This government relied on a contract, professional army, and suddenly it turned out to be gone. What now?

[KVIRTU]

So...
The authorities have relied on a contract army at the request of society, you and me, so that fewer boys serve urgently.
But then, so that the contract soldiers, who serve instead of conscripts, to give an adequate salary, this very society fled into the bushes.
And who, the government is to blame?

[Essex62]

Of course it's my fault. It was she who corrupted people, eradicating collectivism, patriotism from them, planting, alien to us, morality and way of life. From that, all the egoists ran away. They were also taught that the world revolves around them. The army is part of society. Why should it be different there? Well, people do not believe in the goals voiced. And probably right. Anyone who knows how to add two and two understands that they are not achievable.

[KVIRTU]

Oh how. Power, it turns out, decomposes you.
And why doesn’t it decompose me, maybe I watch the Jew Solovyov less?

[Essex62]

Elderberry in the garden ... What does the propagandists have to do with it? They have, just, patriotism rushing from all holes. And in real life, half a million of the most suitable peasants pulled away from mobilization. And they drove hypertensive patients to slaughter, and ulcers who forgot from which end the Kalash shoots.
And bourgeois power is the power of organisms sharpened to extract margin from everything and everything. Collectivism and patriotism don't care for them.
And you have already been decomposed, if you write such heresy.

[KVIRTU]

I just don’t understand, honestly, what are you leading to?

[Essex62]

And to the fact that all the vices and rottenness of capitalism climb out in difficult times for people and the country. And this power of usurpers is not able to solve the problem. She hoped when she herself started on ... yes, hell knows what she was hoping for. Remember how Naryshkin hesitated when they were announced the beginning of the NWO? He, according to his position, should know the true state of affairs. He was speechless.
Matvienko has already sung openly about the agreement. How do you think she speaks for herself?

[KVIRTU]

She didn’t pull power, she took on a lot, now they started to bustle in order to stay at the feeder, as I understand it.

[tolancop]

Quote: KVIRTU

The authorities have relied on a contract army at the request of society, you and me, so that fewer boys serve urgently.

You don't have to lie. The authorities do nothing at the request of society. And where did you see this very "society"?

[KVIRTU]

I'm not lying.
Many of us are for a contract army, but when it comes to the cost of its maintenance, they begin to look for those responsible in the authorities.
You don't lie to yourself, for starters.

[tolancop]

Quote: KVIRTU

I'm not lying.
Many of us are for a contract army, but when it comes to the cost of its maintenance, they begin to look for those responsible in the authorities.
You don't lie to yourself, for starters.

"Many" and "request of society" are somewhat different things. And the vast majority was (and is) in a drum, a contract army or a draft army. From my point of view, negative aspects of military service caused rejection: hazing, the use of personnel for outside work, incl. in the personal interests of commanders, etc. And, by the way, I have repeatedly come across the opinion that a contract army (essentially mercenaries) is not suitable for serious business - mercenaries do not want to die. They stand to death FOR THE IDEA, for money - NO. That has been repeatedly confirmed in history. And what we are seeing now and already with us.

[KVIRTU]

Yes, why don't you go, a bunch of idiots and uryakolok. From the 20th, the troops were withdrawn.

[Cheerock]

Oh, how they gave you minuses And I will support - the concept of a compact professional army was liquidly screwed up when it came to a serious batch, and not to drive barmaley across the desert from helicopters. It's time to get the old Soviet concept of a mob reserve with Wagner bolted to it, throw conscripts on for another year to increase the ground forces three times. What is there is clearly not enough. And prepare for two or three more waves of mobilization. 300K is clearly not enough. And yes, anyone who thinks that everything will end with Ukraine is deeply mistaken.

[KVIRTU]

Thanks for the support)
You are right, 300 thousand is nothing, but what can I say, it will simply close the shortage of personnel, we are not talking about increasing the number.

[tolancop]

Quote: CheeRock

And I will support - the concept of a compact professional army was liquidly screwed up when it came to serious kneading

A scene from an old film (like Red Square) reminded me of the initial period of the creation of the Red Army. The dispute between the commissar (Lyubshin) and the regiment commander (Shalevich) about the voluntary defense of the revolution (country, etc.). Regiment commander: "... serious business will begin and you (the Bolsheviks) will immediately introduce universal military service ..". The film had good consultants, knowledgeable.

[ada]

Quote: Essex62

... And, even partial, mobilization can be declared without war? What does the law say about it? ...

He says - go ahead, what really, there.

[Third district]

Quote: Essex62

I am becoming more and more convinced that this is the disposal of the remnants of the not loyal Soviet People.

First, covid-madness and quarcodes with vaccinations, and now they have taken it more seriously.

[Nickelium]

Contractors = mercenaries. Relying on them in the first place is disastrous. We need a regular army, and for local conflicts like any Angola, a PMC will do.

[Barberry25]

and the communists, ldprovites and other politicians do not walk in taverns? what kind of wild love is it to find extreme ones?

[Essex62]

What are communists? Uncle Zu's seed pomace? Don't throw pebbles at people with convictions. Will fly back.

[Barberry25]

so where is this magic party of communists, about which we can say that they are real? The problem of modern communists is that you have 100500 circles, parties and movements, each of which considers itself to be true communists ...

[Essex62]

True communists now do not have a party, the "modern" ones are not. In principle.

[Barberry25]

those. what I already wrote about - every circle and cell consider themselves true, and the rest are not real .. therefore, the communists have less and less power every year ... and yes, "fly back" is to spend time under my poke cons with comments ... well, this is already a kindergarten)

[Essex62]

Did you read carefully? The communists today have no organization. The few that are still alive are each on their own. But they have not ceased to be communists. And the communists do not have power at all. The power of the communists is not any hucksters and private property.

[Barberry25]

yes yes yes, I remember the fables about "there were true communists and I don’t rub that the USSR collapsed" .. As I already wrote, this is the problem of the communists in view of their unwillingness to consolidate. For that great desire to blame everyone around for troubles, the main thing is not to remember what exactly The CPSU dissolved the USSR and then led to all subsequent problems

[Essex62]

The CPSU was not made up of reincarnations alone.
Although, to be honest, by the 90s they were already in the majority. That is why the result is known. But, not everyone was falling apart and those who tried to protect.
And, in fact, there is no one to consolidate. You can count us on the fingers.

[Barberry25]

well, you can continue to consider yourself a holy communist, as in that joke about Dartagnan and gay people ... but ordinary communists just showed that they are no better than the EP, the Communist Party, the SR and others .. so it makes sense to howl in the style of "ah here are bad edros, but don’t you dare mention the communists, otherwise I’ll get offended "- no ... as they say in the varieties of communists, which of them is more truish and who is not, there is no desire

[Essex62]

Didn't get it again? They are not communists, they live in capitalism in a buzz. They don’t differ from edrosni in any way, even worse, so at least you have to create the appearance of work.

[Barberry25]

I already wrote, I don’t care .. I described the problems of the communists, if you can’t even understand this, then just sit in your mana world and that’s it.

[Deon59]

They call me once a year, alive or not. Suddenly they pay a pension to a dead man

[Barberry25]

only by law, in the event of a change in the data, you must inform the military registration and enlistment office yourself ... so for example .. regarding the jambs of mobilization, then the military commissars themselves are to blame, who could not clearly understand what was required of them and the Ministry of Defense as a whole, which required in fact, mobilization, but she herself did not prepare for it

[wlkw]

I have not received a call in 20 years. However, now it's too late for me to call.

[Aag]

Thanks to the author.
But, as they say, mob. readiness - like many others - is already a lost moment. In support of my words - the number of comments under the article (2!) ... Unfortunately, many other negative reasons arise almost every now and then - respected VO forum users turn their anger there, sometimes without delving into the true causes of events, stigmatizing everyone without a raebor, (not respected, cap throwers, recording any critic of what is happening, rooting for a cause, an industry, a sphere close to him and familiar, - in bulk, the 5th column, and now - in a defeatist, alarmist, cissoshnik ... - it’s not the case will help, - neither by deeds, nor by advice, nor even by revealing the causes).
Sorry, not short...
So, at this stage, the "switchmen" are military commissariats. In the public mind ... Summons were handed to the wrong people, those who were "supposed" were called, they were not provided ...
It seems that only those who are close to the topic will read this article. To explain to them is to waste time ...
However, what if someone wanders, reads, thinks ...
Going back two paragraphs above:
But could the military registration and enlistment offices (RVK) fulfill their functions? If, in a military way, - "clearly and on time" to fulfill their functions? Without a legal basis, mat. security ... I understand - for many, some military terms from the times of the USSR may not be literally familiar. But, even for young people of the "new generation", if they associate themselves with Russia (... ahem ... not the one in Israel / lately, those who faded into the 80-90s for me the order is more honest! /): but, there were no concepts of "partial mobilization". There were clear orders, instructions! Now, regarding the "partial" mobilization (it is not worth explaining to those who know - what was happening in the media - pushing for discontent, chaos, confusion, well, and - the appointment of "switchmen". In this regard, I have one question: on purpose, or out of ignorance? In any variant of the answer (specific, without co-operation, the answer will be depressing.)
So, the answer is obvious - "Could not!" RVC had neither a material base (remember the scandals, I don’t remember what years with computers, premises), nor people (The author described ... I have reliable sources that are older, more recent - also do not inspire optimism ...), No legislative framework (well, we are accustomed to taking care of

[Aag]

Quote: AAG

Thanks to the author.
But, as they say, mob. readiness - like many others - is already a lost moment. In support of my words - the number of comments under the article (2!) ... Unfortunately, many other negative reasons arise almost every now and then - respected VO forum users turn their anger there, sometimes without delving into the true causes of events, stigmatizing everyone without a raebor, (not respected, cap throwers, recording any critic of what is happening, rooting for a cause, an industry, a sphere close to him and familiar, - in bulk, the 5th column, and now - in a defeatist, alarmist, cissoshnik ... - it’s not the case will help, - neither by deeds, nor by advice, nor even by revealing the causes).
Sorry, not short...
So, at this stage, the "switchmen" are military commissariats. In the public mind ... Summons were handed to the wrong people, those who were "supposed" were called, they were not provided ...
It seems that only those who are close to the topic will read this article. To explain to them is to waste time ...
However, what if someone wanders, reads, thinks ...
Going back two paragraphs above:
But could the military registration and enlistment offices (RVK) fulfill their functions? If, in a military way, - "clearly and on time" to fulfill their functions? Without a legal basis, mat. security ... I understand - for many, some military terms from the times of the USSR may not be literally familiar. But, even for young people of the "new generation", if they associate themselves with Russia (... ahem ... not the one in Israel / lately, those who faded into the 80-90s for me the order is more honest! /): but, there were no concepts of "partial mobilization". There were clear orders, instructions! Now, regarding the "partial" mobilization (it is not worth explaining to those who know - what was happening in the media - pushing for discontent, chaos, confusion, well, and - the appointment of "switchmen". In this regard, I have one question: on purpose, or out of ignorance? In any variant of the answer (specific, without co-operation, the answer will be depressing.)
So, the answer is obvious - "Could not!" RVC had neither a material base (remember the scandals, I don’t remember what years with computers, premises), nor people (The author described ... I have reliable sources that are older, more recent - also do not inspire optimism ...), No legislative framework (well, we are accustomed to taking care of

Sorry, - I have to split up the post, - from a smartphone, - throws it at the end of the topic, - whoever came across it will understand ...

[Aag]

Sorry, let's continue...
Roughly speaking, RVC was obliged, according to documents, but legal, mat. security was not provided. Savings! Optimization! Get hurt ... (more money will be left for "lace panties", .. well, "to hell with them" for the yachts of the oligarchs ... (Only, - what I see in the realities of the present time, - the most unprotected will need mobilization ... ((( Oh! - again emotions ...

[Aag]

Quote: AAG

Sorry, let's continue...
Roughly speaking, RVC was obliged, according to documents, but legal, mat. security was not provided. Savings! Optimization! Get hurt ... (more money will be left for "lace panties", .. well, "to hell with them" for the yachts of the oligarchs ... (Only, - what I see in the realities of the present time, - the most unprotected will need mobilization ... ((( Oh! - again emotions ...

The second point, of his own speech (yes, I didn’t indicate it with numbers ...) ...
At our company (wholesale and retail, really supporting some industries of the region, private, but - buy, - sell (!), Unscientific ... Nah, not like that ... Youngsters who do not know History (s. S. U ka, "Potentially good! but dumb... + Military. Pence. of different times, - it seems that I am the oldest of this galaxy, - later, - head of Physics, NSH divisions (honestly, I doubt the competence of many, on the other sides, even some of our loaders, with minimal special training, are real Fighters! to attract a category - so it’s better to create training centers? ... (Shooting clubs have already raised their revenue ...) And I See: Caring People, Work - as the Author of the article, as some True Volunteers, as familiar to me, -even dog kennels - they prepare dogs for the mine - search, search service ... (And not like "EP" during fires, floods in the Irkutsk region ...).

[Aag]

Once again, - sorry, - razyulozil ...
Now they are starting to pull LLC, IP, etc. on the subject of military registration, - "the cockerel pecked", - respectively, - with excesses, jambs ...
Nobody scratched!!
... The accounting department ran in, - Oh, I’ll fine you! (under what article? ... or are they “bent” on other jambs? ... For not filing F-10 certificates ... and before that?) ...
On the other hand, he asked his colleagues: when did you look at the last pages of your military cards? Military duties! About 90% do not know ... And how do military registration and enlistment offices work?

And the last (within the framework of the article under discussion): why did everyone pounce on the military enlistment offices (?), - they fulfill the task assigned to them within the framework of the competencies, opportunities that are provided to them by the State! (Excuse me ... - I won’t justify the stupidity of individuals. .). But, - and do not hang too much on them!
The author, with all due respect, -You clearly softened the topic!
And it’s too late .... Well, this is a tradition ... I consider myself guilty, on this resource, for ... a ranting, debatable polemic with some opponents (excuse me, what is it - grinding teeth at night / for a wife, this one thing ... With fellow students of the VUZA, different, this is different, but - there is also the first wife (!) (more successful, until some time; colleagues at work (I hope you understand, officially, I'm a penny MO) ...
Those who wish, of course, can also "throw a stone" at me .. I do not promise that I will immediately answer, there are a lot of things ...

[Aag]

Surely, he strained many with his "talkativeness".
Sorry, I tried to be honest...

[aakvit]

Why tense? But - it hurt from the heart!

[Aag]

Quote: aakvit

Why tense? But - it hurt from the heart!

Sincerely, thank you for your understanding!

[aakvit]

Sincerely, thank you for your understanding!

You don't have to thank me, just like that!

[KVIRTU]

The military registration and enlistment offices, at the moment, albeit with reservations, have fulfilled their function.
Now to accept the troops is a problem.
Well, there are no cropped parts, for example.
It turns out that we solve problems as they come ...

[aakvit]

As always, however!
Everything starts from scratch, and past mistakes do not teach anything...

[KVIRTU]

Yes, nothing, and not such cases were filled up)))

[Aag]

Quote: KVIRTU

The military registration and enlistment offices, at the moment, albeit with reservations, have fulfilled their function.
Now to accept the troops is a problem.
Well, there are no cropped parts, for example.
It turns out that we solve problems as they come ...

Thank you for understanding...
In addition to your comment: "based on the available capabilities, competencies .." (by the way, without rejecting the fact that some people on the ground reasoned like this, they say, if SUCH started all over the country, then we are what " worse"?...

[KVIRTU]

I live in Evpatoria, there were no special complaints about the draft board. Unless, sending at 05:00, picking up an hour earlier, if there was no one to give a ride, a taxi was called. But this is not critical, this is an ARMY)

[Barberry25]

dont steal .. after 2 weeks, army supplies will become switchmen, after another 2 weeks, officers of the General Staff.

[Aag]

Quote: Barberry25

dont steal .. after 2 weeks, army supplies will become switchmen, after another 2 weeks, officers of the General Staff.

Greetings! I could be wrong, but it seems that you and I "conflicted" on some issues (I don’t remember on which ones - there is, apparently, a more burning agenda))). In this case, I absolutely agree with you! And there is already confirmation of this (even from the moment you wrote your comment, - suppliers, training grounds, training centers are already under criticism! - It’s hard for me to assess the validity of criticism - often not “in the subject.” But the general state of affairs, indirect signs, they yell about You are right.((

[Barberry25]

Greetings) any dispute on the case is good, the main thing is to benefit the cause ... now the Ministry of Defense is stuffing bumps and it seems like they are learning from mistakes, At the moment, problems are being solved with the instructor corps, today they signed a decree on its formation in order to legalize those involved in training specialists .. the main thing is that there is no administrative mud in style, write 100500 reports and plans for the educational and methodological part with daily reports on the classes, you need equipment, and it turns out that according to the news, all manufacturers of armor and helmets in Russia have now been harnessed to the state. order..

[Aag]

Quote: Barberry25

Greetings) any dispute on the case is good, the main thing is to benefit the cause ... now the Ministry of Defense is stuffing bumps and it seems like they are learning from mistakes, At the moment, problems are being solved with the instructor corps, today they signed a decree on its formation in order to legalize those involved in training specialists .. the main thing is that there is no administrative mud in style, write 100500 reports and plans for the educational and methodological part with daily reports on the classes, you need equipment, and it turns out that according to the news, all manufacturers of armor and helmets in Russia have now been harnessed to the state. order..

Well, you, too, don't "get impudent" .. - Firstly, - I, Yes, from the "sofa" ..
But. -my sofa
- this is a sofa of a certain type of troops, (RVSN) ....
Unfortunately, - I confess - often (I "hinted" this repeatedly on this resource ...
However, - I think - (yes, - for a long time, a pension. MO ... That the System (Nuclear parity, - sorry for the non-military term ,,, - until now

[Barberry25]

Well, my sofa is waiting for a summons and looking at what to buy...

[KVIRTU]

I can’t speak for other regions, the comrades in our 2 training centers in the Crimea are pleasantly surprised, remembering their term 15 years ago.
There is not enough equipment, yes, the same knee pads, elbow pads.
During the study, the form can be very frayed.

[KVIRTU]

Let's, for the majority of those commenting here, recall the main tasks of RVC.
Maybe then their brains will work?
Will they say something sensible?
Well, except for the screams.
And there are 50+ tasks.
From draft to funeral teams, 3 shots.

[Sebastian Aristarkhovich Pereira]

Everything is according to one of the formulas of the new Russian capitalism: "As we flesh, so we work !!!".
The same crap is in civil defense, with mobile plans at enterprises, with areas for the removal of personnel, with equipment for the needs of the army from the national economy, with bomb shelters, with gas masks for the population ....
In short, to characterize the situation gently, you can in one word ... Mezhyagodichnaya!

[KVIRTU]

Everything is just like that. Thanks to the author.
Little can be added about the meager funding for office expenses.

[Aag]

Quote: KVIRTU

Everything is just like that. Thanks to the author.
Little can be added about the meager funding for office expenses.

Perhaps I agree ...
But (!), - this is the least of the problems ... (((

[KVIRTU]

Your words yes ... you know who in the ears)
I still have the LD in the file, I need a special folder, to order!

[Buyan]

Quote: Vladislav 73

Saving on defense by cutting back on the capabilities of a fundamental tool of recruiting and mobilization resources, such as the structure of military registration and enlistment offices, is to feed someone else's army with your own meat.

And what will happen next?

"A people that does not want to feed its own army will feed someone else's" Napoleon Bonaparte.

To the point, comrade

[ada]

Let's clarify for a common understanding that the population, in the overwhelming majority of cases, watches from the screen only one of the elements of mobilization activities related to the VC - the conscription of citizens for military service for mobilization (partial). It is regulated by the legislation in the field of defense and a number of other legal documents, including departmental ones.
Decree of the Government of the Russian Federation of December 30.12.2006, 852 N 04.10.2021 (as amended on October XNUMX, XNUMX) "On approval of the Regulations on the conscription of citizens of the Russian Federation for mobilization assigned to military units (intended for special formations) for military service in military positions provided for by the states wartime, or sending them to work in the positions of civilian personnel of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation, other troops, military formations, bodies and special formations.
Pay attention to the title of the document and the words: "... assigned to military units (intended for special formations), ...". That's where the main problem is! The downsizing of the RF Armed Forces since 2008 has destroyed the deployment base. Of course, I can estimate on my fingers how much time it takes to select and design a mission in VK + form a team file in accordance with the task, etc. HF had limited opportunities for work), which is obvious, what is happening is not bad yet, the enemy clearly counted on the collapse of the system - naive, it’s just called differently, but in fact - an additional distributed call for a separate calculation, which has little in common with the old Soviet system of mobilization deployment of the Armed Forces.

[ivan2022]

What is communism, what is capitalism, what is to build nuclear power plants, what is special. carry out operations... In the West, they write in the comments that "if the Russians take up something, then wait for loud statements, great sacrifices, and in the end everything will end in zilch."

Heh... Heh... Lack of funds all around! In the richest country in the world. Moreover, most of the big business invests in offshore companies. Under the control of the West .....

[nellyjuri]

As for nuclear power plants, you are absolutely on point. I have relatives of my wife in Volgodonsk. And her uncle, he was the lead engineer of the project, a man who worked on the construction of Kudankanlam for 8 years, told very curious things about how advanced America undertook to build a nuclear power plant in China and was 4 years late with the launch. But the funniest thing is not this - for eight years they could not manufacture a circulation pump in the circuit of a nuclear power plant. They spent 8 years on this. All their attempts led to the fact that the pump, when 200 atmospheres were supplied, began to flow. By the way, two years after my wife's uncle told me this, Boris Martsinkevich, a very authoritative expert in energy, confirmed this in his article. But Martsinkevich told another continuation. At some point, the Chinese lost their nerve and they offered to purchase such a pump from Russia. The US categorically refused. And yet they got it right and did it. He worked for about a year and leaked. And replacing the pump in the reactor circuit is another task.
In short, the Americans do not have nuclear power plants, but hemorrhoids. And by the way, it is very difficult to maintain a pressure of 200 atmospheres, but pumps from Rosatom give a guarantee for 20 years.

And further! Do you know the speed of the latest generation of Russian gas centrifuges? 1500 rpm. I wasn't wrong. Per second. What are the bearings then?

[Galleon]

Quote from nellyjuri

1500 rpm. I wasn't wrong. Per second. What are the bearings then?

Magnetized, I believe.

[nellyjuri]

Well, why is everything so simple, why others can not?

[Mitia68]

Who are these "others"?
For example, Urenco also has centrifuges with a speed of 1500 rpm, only the physical dimensions of their centrifuges are 3 times (!) Larger than ours and therefore they separate isotopes even more efficiently.

But we have electricity much cheaper, due to this we have them and win in the price of separation.

[Deon59]

This is understandable, we have proven technologies for the construction of nuclear power plants. But even there, money is very cool sawing. Give a loan for the construction and build it yourself, and in 25 years they can give it back. A good sawing scheme.

[IImonolitII]

Well, in theory, this is not a scheme for cutting, but for economic dependence. Because:
1) You immediately invest in your GDP - 20% of the money is immediately returned in the form of taxes
2) You get a service contract - after construction, you will be paid not only on a loan.
But of course they saw us in full)

[nellyjuri]

I don’t know, I won’t insult this person and I won’t do it decently, but I dealt with the military commissars and I never experienced the feeling that they were clogged with service.

[sailor]

Good evening, comrades!
Unfortunately, the article itself and the comments do not stand out among others for their "deep study of the problem." Although in some comments "rays of hope" slip through.
In my opinion, the question is not in the competence of military registration and enlistment offices and their personnel. The question is in organizing the accounting of citizens in the reserve. Authors and commentators simply need to use generally accepted terminology. Calling a spade a spade, it is easier to understand the issue.
Both "aunts" and "students" in the military registration and enlistment offices can read and write. If there are reliable lists of citizens in the reserve, the staff of the military registration and enlistment office will easily issue summons only to those who fit the criteria for the announced mobilization.
There are no reliable lists in the military registration and enlistment offices. Not because they were not in the military enlistment office. But because people who have long been dedicated to these issues, incl. officials do not report on the changes that have occurred with those liable for military service since their dismissal from the army.
Previously, ZhEKs notified the military registration and enlistment offices of a change in the address of residence of a person liable for military service. Now management companies are not required to do this, simply because citizens (homeowners) did not authorize them to do this in their bilateral agreements.
All enterprises and organizations, regardless of their form of ownership, with the number of employees (employed) of 14 people or more, are required to keep military records. Ask your personnel department (human resources department, personnel department, HR management department, etc., etc.) how the registration of citizens in the reserve is organized. Accounting and informing the military registration and enlistment office about changes related to the employees of your enterprise liable for military service.
Then you can read the Methodological Recommendations of the General Staff of the RF Armed Forces.
Enlightenment and understanding of the issue under discussion is in the field of self-preparation. The issue needs to be studied. Materiel must be taught.
It is frankly a pity that specialists of military registration and enlistment offices are not puzzled by such explanations. They are probably very busy right now.
In the entire system of military registration, which is very multi-link, as you hopefully understood, there are specialists in mobilization training. The most "secret" and often highly paid employees of enterprises and organizations. You won't be able to read much about them in open sources. For understanding, it is enough to pay attention to the title of their position. Apparently they are responsible for what is happening.
Well, and probably the most interesting thing, since 2021, according to the Law of the Russian Federation, a citizen liable for military service is himself obliged to notify the military registration and enlistment office about his movement, changes in marital status, health status, and other things that are important for his registration in military command and control bodies. Answer the question for yourself: "When was the last time you notified the military enlistment office about the changes in your life that are necessary and important for military registration?" Much will become clear immediately. Almost always, the search for the one to blame with the answer to this question will stop.
I apologize to those who read this comment. I am writing for the first time. just learning.

Sincerely, Sailor!

[Non-fighter]

As for the organization of accounting, I will say one simple thing.
As soon as simple human hands appear somewhere - YOU HAVE A MISTAKE!!!! It is not known where, when, and in what but you made a mistake and the system should be built taking into account this fact. In general, manual work with data is a monotonous daily work. Given the knowledge of the errors - a complete feeling of uselessness.
And also the "trade mark" of our army - "but still there will be no war."

[Victor Kalistratov]

You think that they will pay more money, they will work better, but they won’t. In the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation, this is not the same organization. The more money you pay, the more corruption. As for the stool, the contractors were boobies, what is now. NVO is a confirmation of that, who really drove their own in combat training, they are now the most combat-ready. Somewhere a company, somewhere a battalion, regiment, etc. at what the system is not visible, rather an exception to the rule. Regarding the military commissars, an example from the personal life of a week ago. The head of the district gathers representatives of organizations plus representatives of the military registration and enlistment office in the afternoon. The military commissar said hello and immediately gave the floor to his deputy (head of department). The military commissar himself is 64 sizes 4 heights. His deputy: “You understand, this didn’t happen in 1945, I myself hadn’t slept for 4 nights, etc. He sets the task for all representatives to come to the military enlistment office in such and such an office before the end of the day and take the summonses on their otherwise heavenly punishments from the prosecutor’s office. We arrive, and there "Luntik, I was born", you don’t know about the orders of the military commissar, you go to another office on the other floor. There Luntik No. 2. starts to cackle, in short, I realized that I was in a madhouse. As the public says, this is all the time, but normal work The recruiting office is the exception that proves the rule.

[bk316]

As a former employee of the military registration and enlistment office, a question.
Why, in the 80s and in the 90s and in the 00s, it was easiest for everyone who wanted to hang out to give a bribe to the military registration and enlistment office. The system was corrupt at the traffic police level, only bribes were not measured in rubles .....
I think even now there is something for the investigators to do.

And now another question.
Do you think if a bribe-taker raises his salary by 2 times, he stops taking bribes and starts working?

The rear has always been the most rotten place in the Army, but the draft boards are something special.
And if the ensigns in the warehouses cashed in on the state (after all, sitting on a barrel of caviar it’s hard not to eat a spoon - THIS IS NOT AN ABSTRACTION, I saw this myself), then the military commissars in public are cynical and often inhuman.

[AB]

When there was a transition to a contract army, some officers, media personalities from every iron said that it was good, it was modern, and they listed the functions of such an army. In general, everyone said the same thing, according to the training manual. And for a very long time the first function was called ... Punitive function. Then I did not pay attention to that. At some point, they all shut up. Of all the manuals, this function of the professional army was deleted. Only when I grew up and had more brains I thought about it. I did not find a single interview on the Internet with that interesting function. Cleaned up? And I understood, and then for many years I told friends and acquaintances that in any case, if there was a serious conflict, they would call. After all, the professional army has other functions.

[alexandr_vd]

In modern Russia, all important executive places are occupied by KOLUI! - officials.
Having neither shame nor conscience. Just to please, or better yet, re-please their bosses!
This mobilization is an example of their work.

[Tank destroyerSU-100]

Everything is rightly said. Because the apologists for the "army of a new look" imagined that this "compact contract army" would immediately resolve all issues in any local conflict. And no mobilization is expected.
Yes, they forgot that the same Arab-Israeli wars were considered a local conflict, although the people fought well over a million people, and armored vehicles numbered in the thousands.
The only pity is that those who destroyed the draft boards are now prospering and will not suffer punishment.

[yuriy1863]

A miserable shameful salary is the lot of most of the civil servants of the Moscow Region. And then, as a result, a "ridiculous" pension. I saw a woman who for 20 years turned over jet depth charges and, as a result, earned as much as 11 thousand pensions.

[Eule]

And let him calculate the amount taken by pensioners from her employers!
It's time to recognize the FIU as a terrorist organization, and to the penal battalions.

[Dizel200]

I agree. That's right, there should be professionals in the military registration and enlistment office. But still they fought all the loot utterly and immeasurably.

[Rust]

My wife worked for 1.5 years. He insisted on resigning. I earn with my hands (with the help of my head), and the nervousness is not worth the salary that was paid. Less subsistence, 3 years ago. Samara.

[Sergey VTC]

Former students, semi-military pensioners are dragging the resources of the motherland on their backs.

DRAGGING ON THE HUMP, CARL.
No comment ...

[VasyaRules]

I speak as a former member of the military commissariat. In 2014, the salary was 11000 rubles, a quarter every three months 30000 rubles and Sobyanin's 6000 for each month. A man himself does not have enough money, I generally keep quiet about the family. So military pensioners and military wives work, a kind of charity so that their wives have something to do. At the same time, there are a lot of risks. Bribes are practically offered on the doorstep of the office. Honest people do not linger in time for a long time, well, and every call they catch the next head of the call.

[igorra]

It's good to blame everything on Serdyukov. And the army is white and fluffy, and the officers in it are exemplary. Not funny yourself? Who are you telling stories for? Himself urgently in the SA and both boys served in today's. The mess, as it was, remains. Well, the eldest went on guard duty, they taught him how to use weapons, the youngest, after training, at the airfield, not only didn’t shoot, he never saw his machine gun. Junior sergeant, m... his leg. By the military. After the army, I myself carried the summons for 2 years, I live next to the military registration and enlistment office, day and night, on the drum, they call, deliver it. To the military commissar, small children, two, you don’t get enough sleep, they say, release. He, like all warriors, is obliged to civilians. I say give money for gasoline, it will be faster. Something is leaking through his teeth. Well, he sent both him and the army in his person. They also wanted to plow the younger one, since he plows for the defense industry, he sent it right after my explanations. So there is nothing to cry about, you don’t want to work yourself. That it was impossible to create a program and enter all changes in family or work status online? Now there would be no such problems, I clicked and you can see who breathes what. What can I say, drones have not been able to do in 8 years. They would have turned to aircraft modeling circles, it would have been more useful.

[seacap]

I am not an expert, but in connection with all this mess, several completely obvious questions arose by themselves, based not even on experience in this field of activity, but on elementary logic, which seems alien to our boyars, who are accustomed only to deriban the state budget. To begin with, why, while making a "gesture of goodwill", while suffering huge losses of "double basses" and standard equipment, and on the Donetsk and Luhansk fronts "relying" on "miners" in ShS-68 and with "sidors", they did not bother in the spring mobilization reserve. Why, knowing that the required assigned staff with the necessary VUS in our, in fact, the Red Army, for objective reasons, is not enough, and even taking into account, in fact, the mobilization system destroyed by "reforms under the leadership of an effective furniture production manager", did not organize training, training, in first of all, those who at one time "dismissed" from military service, majors, etc. are now recognized as fit for health and other criteria, which will contribute to the "cohesion" of society and social justice, now we would already have a multi-million trained, trained "hot" reserve, those who have VUS - they do not need much time, they could be understaffed with active units. Another aspect of this series is that equipment and equipment would have already been delivered to the central regions from storage bases, which we traditionally have in the remote taiga of Siberia. This is only an insignificant part of this issue, the planning and implementation of which did not require special talents, which ultimately causes dreary impressions, looking at the level and helplessness of our bureaucrats in solving the most elementary problems and issues.

[seacap]

Quote: igorra

It's good to blame everything on Serdyukov. And the army is white and fluffy, and the officers in it are exemplary. Not funny yourself?

so this is the result of the tireless activity of an "effective manager of furniture production", part-time son-in-law of the head of government, therefore it is not funny when incompetence is "filled with blood of a Russian soldier"

[svoroponov]

The impression from the article is that they are fighting in the military registration and enlistment office.
The task of the military registration and enlistment office is to record former military personnel, register conscripts with the organization of conscription for military service. In Soviet times, in our district (the population was about 70000 people at that time), there were only 4 people in the military registration and enlistment office for this. Military commissar (major), his deputy (ensign), secretary and janitor-cleaner. Plus UAZ. . What is wrong now? It is difficult to tear your ass off the chairs or problems with the development of a computer, which, oh, how it helps in office work and the execution of all papers. Who interferes?
Yes, and the military commissars and their assistants are not pensioners, but regular military men, and there are even more such persons in large military registration and enlistment offices. Their salaries are also not small by today's standards as the military. What are the problems. Maybe they just forgot how to work sitting in a warm place?